don’t buy starfield on release, play in gay pass, see it’s shit, still have time to preorder the superior Cyberpunk 2077 Expansion - Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty
yeah I have no clue where do people find the confidence that a bethesda release is playable on pc on release
Like cp is getting updates to the vanilla experience 10 years after announcement trailer
if you chose cyberpunk over starfield then you're the stupidest Black person to ever live because you didn't learn your lesson.
You have to chose lesser bad in situation like this, bethesda is known for its bug, yes, but cyberpunk 'incident' back in '20 is thousand times worse than every bethesda game bugs combined.
shittesda's shitty engine would shit itself if it were to render all this geometry with a draw distance as far as this lol
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nah. They fixed that issue with their engine long ago by finally implementing combines. Makes it a pain in the ass for modding but you can have a game that's easy to mod or you can have a game that's highly optimized. Can't have both.
>the environment reacts to falling objects even the player himself falling
This is actually pretty sweet. If this was Bethesda game that street light would've never broken from the fall.
It's so insane that this is a common opinion. Every Bethesda game is sub ME Andromeda levels of facial animation. If your idea of RPG interaction is watching a bunch of 4 polygon npcs look at a point off on the horizon while a mid voice actor chokes out stunted lines by all means knock yourself out. That's of course disregarding the bugged state their games usually launch in. Cyberpunk has its flaws but the story just works, the interactions feel real and dynamic and the narrative is interesting. The bugs don't change that.
>the interactions feel real and dynamic
There are literally no "dynamic" NPCs in Cyberpunk. Every single character you can interact with stays permanently affixed in one place until you do so, that's like saying Fromsoft games have "dynamic" characters.
this, at most they vary non-interactable NPC locations depending upon your starting career. Completely static, anyone who claims there are dynamic interactions is just messing with you. And I can be fair, if you point a weapon at a random NPC it can generate a wave shooting segment. But It doesn't affect the player characters stats and it's not acknowledged in conversations. Not even in any side quests.
Not dynamic in terms of scripting but dynamic in terms of blocking and animation. It's the difference between Bethesda's static talking head dialog system and things like being able to have a conversation with multiple people in Cyberpunk.
Other way around you fricking moron. Cyberpunk IS already fixed unless you're a moronic poorgay or a consoleBlack person (I consider them less than human) so there isn't really a risk to buying Phantom Liberty. Starfield on the other hand WILL be bugged on release. And yes it might be kino down the line (thanks to modders) but it'll take a while.
When Skyrim was released I bought it for PS3 and during the first week there was a plethora of save bugs and crashes which made it impossible to play beyond whiterun in the main quest. It was patched but that incident woke me up to the reality. During the same month I bought the PC version, it also had this issue but there was a mod within 24 hours that patched it. I suspect this was the start of the community patch. In any case... I've always had issues with Bethseda open world games. What I experienced with cyberpunk 2077 is on that same level. I think if we are going to shit on CDPR then we need to remember the bad times, when Todd disappointed us in ways that always got a memory-hole.
No it isn't fixed you shill homosexual. Cyberpunk will never be what those Polish c**ts promised. Now frick off back to sucking that CDPR dick, Black person.
Next time, don't buy into obviously overhyped pre-rendered trailers that can't possibly reflect a final product given the amount of time that was spent in development.
11 months ago
Anonymous
they were still promising features when they were showing gameplay where the features were obviously not in the game
I preordered Fallout 4 and i regret it entirely. I skipped Fallout 76 and regret nothing. I'm not even thinking about Starfield for at least 2 months after it releases
>if you chose cyberpunk over starfield then you're the stupidest Black person to ever live because you didn't learn your lesson. >You have to chose lesser bad in situation like this, bethesda is known for its bug, yes, but cyberpunk 'incident' back in '20 is thousand times worse than every bethesda game bugs combined.
I have a feeling Starfield is gonna be disappointing it really sunk in it was just another badly written shallow Bethesda game from the showcase whereas Phantom Liberty is actually looking kino.
apparently it’s called the 2.0 patch internally, and most likely on release as well
yeah I have no clue where do people find the confidence that a bethesda release is playable on pc on release
Like cp is getting updates to the vanilla experience 10 years after announcement trailer
>on pc
at all. every single time todd promises something on stage, it’s not only a lie in terms of scipe of that particular mechanic, but also a confirmation that it will be bugged to hell and back on release, and for 10 years after that, if you don’t install community-made patches
You are a fricking moronic homosexual and you should literally have a nice day. If the Cyberpunk universe was real, trannies as we know them would cease to exist and they certainly wouldn't look like hons with non-passing voices like "Claire".
>hons with non-passing voices like "Claire".
Lol
90% of whiners wouldn't even have noticed if not for the flag
The flag and the gay-ass quest is where the devs went wrong
the thick ass man-eyebrows and cyberware on the throat are like pottery. did he("suzy") or CDPR realize this at any point of the character modeling? Is it meant to be on the nose for self-empowerment? To everybody else it just comes off as poetic mockery.
It's not just about race... These devs are ignoring very important things. extremely important. I do not like furries, but I still have fond memories of characters like this.
Bro, as a dev with any fricking spirit you should at least try to give the people what they want. If it sucks then whatever, but they didn't even fricking try. Furries are the absolute worst in my experience, but you don't completely ignore that audience. That's just bad business. Especially in a setting where it is perfectly acceptable. Even modders have a hard time grasping this.
And for that matter! What about Trekkie gangs! I wanted to beat wannabe-captian-kirk into the ground! There was only one Alien conspiracy quest and it ends on such a downnote.
It's time you realized that CDPR lied from the start. They got lucky with The Witcher 3 and fed the hype for Cyberpunk. It was a scam from the start. The entire time they were trying to get on that ESG loan gravy train and now that they're on it, they no longer care.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, I'm not sure you're being intentionally moronic or just weren't there, but Witcher 3 was almost as buggy as CP2077 on release.
The difference is, Witcher didn't have half the hype 2077 did, so people didn't really care about the bugs.
2077 was marketed a lot and so ecelebs got on it, and all ecelebs want is clicks. What's a good way to get clicks? Controversy. So of course everyone got on it and started making fun of it, even though Witcher was just bad, nobody was interested in actually looking at the good parts of the game.
Ironically enough, I played on release and only ran into the occasional visual bug, which I could care less about.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>but Witcher 3 was almost as buggy as CP2077 on release.
It's not about the bugs. It's about everything else. They did not expect The Witcher 3 to get as big as it did. Cyberpunk was a cashgrab scam from the start.
>nobody was interested in actually looking at the good parts of the game.
Cyberspunk had no good parts. Every single thing they said about the game was a lie. From life paths and "open missions" to simple things like 3rd camera, they didn't add it because either they didn't want to pay for the dev time or they lacked the people to do it. Once Sony pulled it off their store, everyone at CDPR started throwing everyone else under the bus.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>had no good parts
I know I'm wasting keystrokes but there's plenty of good things about it. One of the coolest open world cities in gaming, the story beats hit pretty well and are high fidelity, and honestly, for an RPG, the shooting is pretty decent. The game also had a great soundtrack and a pretty diverse set of characters (in a good way, not the woke, look at me I'm black and gay way) A lot of the side stories were pretty good too, like Judy and Kerry. I personally liked Keanu and I think his shitty acting fit there character, funnily enough, and the schizo trope of having someone stuck in your body was done well.
I get not liking the game, plenty of reasons not to, but saying there's nothing good in it is just being moronic.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>One of the coolest open world cities in gaming
Holy moronic zoomer.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Out of all the points you could've contested me on, you pick that one?
Let's hear it then, this should be funny. Surely you can name 1 (one) city in games that's visually better realized and more interesting than Night City.
11 months ago
Anonymous
moron the city is completely empty, tons of buildings clip into other buildings, flying trams that go nowhere, a big part of the city being inaccessible and surrounded by invisible walls etc.
Not to mention that the driving fricking sucks so it isn't even fun to move around.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm still waiting for that answer, anon. If the city sucks so much, naming a better one should be insanely easy.
always the same shit with you morons. Talking out of your ass.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Any Rockstar game.
Also Mafia 2002 had a better city. You know what Mafia 2002 also had that cybershit doesn't? Public transport that you could actually use and NPC's that didn't despawn if you walked a few feet in a different direction. Also actually busy streets and functional police.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>rockstar game
Oh yeah, I remember all the times I drove around a GTA city and stopped to look at the buildings or found something cool.
Oh wait, that never fricking happened.
If you were going to go with just pure visual fidelity at least say Novigrad or some shit, not garbage ass 'realistic' towns from Mafia or GTA with literally nothing to see or do in them.
11 months ago
Anonymous
> literally nothing to see or do in them
You should love them then cybertroon. They're exactly like the game you love so much.
11 months ago
Anonymous
works on my machine, bud
EVEN without the sidequests, lore weapons and shit you find all over the city, literally walking by and just looking stores, ads and designs around the city, it has more attention to detail and worldbuilding than all GTA games combined.
Cope.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>no dude you don't understand, the city is totally alive because I can walk around and look at ads 🙂
holy kek
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're trying too hard.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, you can enjoy a shit game without coping about how great it is.
I watch shitty tv shows and read garbage manga, but I don't go around telling people what secret gems they really are.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm new in this thread, I haven't said shit beyond you're trying too hard.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Trying too hard at what? The guy I replied to literally said he likes driving around the city to look at ads.
11 months ago
Anonymous
When all you've had to say is >drag out minor issues >ignore statements >post webms of bugs from the trash ps4 release >letting trannies live rent free inside your head.
Either you're intentionally shitposting and you've gone a bit too hard, or you're unironically just extremely moronic.
You aren't convincing me you have a point to argue so much as you're disgruntled and have had nothing of value to say in your entire argument.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Minor issues like the city being dead in a conversation about how the city is so well made?
Maybe seethe less and make an actual point next time.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Once again I am a different person, I was just reading the thread and saw your tantrum and decided to call you out on it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
What does you being a different person have to do with that, esl moron?
It isn't a minor issue if it was the entire point of the conversation.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Oh, you weren't actually confused?
That's even more sad.
I'm not going to waste my time on you like that other guy did because all you do is ignore arguments and shitpost.
Consider castration, although I doubt that's going to make a difference in the grand scheme of things it's still better safe than sorry.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Holy shit you are moronic. kek >Consider castration
That's more of a cybertroon type of thing.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Black person homosexual troony. Keep blasing shit all over your own face, it's funny to watch.
11 months ago
Anonymous
kek you are fuming
11 months ago
Anonymous
>t. mind numblingy furious
lmaoing @ ur life
11 months ago
Anonymous
How long until you commit suicide? A few years at most, right?
11 months ago
Anonymous
You first, maybe you can push that 41% to a whopping 42%.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Your parents will bury you under your birthname. Does that upset you?
11 months ago
Anonymous
At least my parents will be able to bury me instead of having to hire an excavator for your turbo lard fat ass.
11 months ago
Anonymous
So your comeback is that you're a troon that will have a nice day but at least you'll fit in your grave?
Holy KEK
11 months ago
Anonymous
You must have shed a few pounds trying to come up with that.
Also I called you a troony first, no backsies Black person.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You must have shed a few pounds trying to come up with that.
Also I called you a troony first, no backsies Black person.
what the frick are you doing with your lives morons
11 months ago
Anonymous
We're talking about video games, what does it fricking look like?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm talking about videogames and this
You must have shed a few pounds trying to come up with that.
Also I called you a troony first, no backsies Black person.
Cybertroon came into this thread specifically to seethe at me.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>wah wah wah I haven't dilated today so i'm grumpy
11 months ago
Anonymous
I think you meant to post this on your discord server.
11 months ago
Anonymous
No I was quoting you silly 🙂
11 months ago
Anonymous
But I never said that, cybertroon.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes you did.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>cybertroon hears voices in his head
Hmmm...
11 months ago
Anonymous
Who are you even talking to?
11 months ago
Anonymous
not him but art direction was one of the very few things the game did right
which is hilarious because the art director fat chick with dyed hair and a mohawk
11 months ago
Anonymous
I thought it was bad.
"style over substance" is the message of the game yet everything and everyone looks ugly as shit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sleeping Dogs.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I've been playing the game for a week now, and only autists would notice those type of glitches. The game looks amazing on my rig, and it feels quite alive compared to 99% of the games released in the past decade
11 months ago
Anonymous
You've been playing it for way more than a week, /vg/ crossposting homosexual.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>accuses an anon of being an /vg/tard
take your meds
11 months ago
Anonymous
The only people that come here to defend cybershit are /vg/ gays that spend 30 hours a week taking pictures of their gay avatars.
11 months ago
Anonymous
here you go, you massive fricking homosexual
11 months ago
Anonymous
>the story beats hit pretty well and are high fidelity
I don't know what you're smoking but it can't be good for you if it gives you this level of derangement. Story is either completely flat or drops when it's about to get good(that politician quest that just fricking ends out of nowhere).
>the shooting is pretty decent
It most certainly is not. The whole 3 gun variations between a single type with incremental stat boosts is the worst thing they could've done. It's a numbers game and they actually had a perfectly lore friendly reason for some enemies to be bullet sponges. Except they never implemented ammo types because that would've been too much work for the scam.
>The game also had a great soundtrack
I will give you this, it is nice.
>like Judy and Kerry
No. That's like saying stinky Panam and that bartender had good side stories.
>Keanu
Keanu was the whole problem with the story. Should have never accepted to be part of the game.
>I get not liking the game, plenty of reasons not to, but saying there's nothing good in it is just being moronic.
There is literally nothing good about the game or in it. Soundtrack is by contrast good.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>It most certainly is not.
It is, you can use environmental objects and other special weapon features like ricochet
to navigate through instances in whatever way you like. >Story is either completely flat
It's not flat at any point, every gig and mission gives you significant information on the lore, location and characters within that specific scene. And there is plenty of NCP dialog to hear while you sneak into position. The main story itself is dry.
11 months ago
Anonymous
i didn't bother replying because the guy is being intentionally asinine
people jerk off shit like Deus Ex and New Vegas when they shooting is literally ten times worse and doesn't have a tenth of the variety of shit you can do in 2077.
I liked the main story. It wasn't the generic garbage like every other game these days where you're the chosen one, saving the world or some shit. Just a lot of different factions and people involved in a corporate plot.
It wasn't as choice-heavy as I'd like, but as a mostly linear story, I thought it was fairly interesting.
I mean, people are out here praising shit like RDR2 where Arthur is literally murdering 100 cops in town, beating a deathly sick man half to death in front of his family for a few dollars, and then trying to make it out that he redeemed himself by saving a fellow murderer, or that his death was somehow sad in any way.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Asinine
You're arguing with 2 different people, moron.
11 months ago
Anonymous
you pre-purchased Phantom Liberty, didn't you?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not yet, I likely will get it. I don't pre-order games.
>Mad that a game about transhumanism has transgender people
You could literally play a dickgirl or c**tboy from day one in CP2077, why are you suddenly getting so assblasted now?
>Charge full price for a game >Game has withheld content and is a version of game that failed QA tests >Some time later >Release 'DLC' with the cut content and mechanics promised in the original game >Charge an additional $30
This will be the new standard in game development.
Ended up picking it up half off recently now that there have been a number of patches. It's fairly passable now, still glitchy as hell with NPCs getting caught in the ground for a while or lighting freaking out. Definitely not anywhere near the level it was hyped to be, but it does show some promise at least. Honestly they should have probably just been more up front with things sooner and then switched to a scheme of releasing the base game for something like $25 to $30 and then doing a bunch of $15 to $20 DLC expansions that were each a new character and storyline with each one having different character backgrounds and build options it could have ended up really good, if still rather overpriced.
Cp2077 proof that with good marketing and promotion shit(edgerunner) you can sell your shitty 5/10 game and easily get 10/10 score by critics and coomer/zoomers defend your game
melee only isn't just viable it's pretty much the most fun way to play
I basically only used katanas, Johnny's hero pistol when I unlocked it, and the kanabo sometimes for fun
game balance
i believe that i wasn't even level 20 when i played the last time and i just shat on everything the game threw at me on the hardest difficulty
i couldn't care less about the story so the fact that my build was already this good so early in the game and would only get better just made me drop the game
Well, I get freezes when opening fast travel terminals, when switching menu tabs, sometimes on the intro cutscenes, when creating a new character, or, if I manage to avoid all of that, after about 10-20 minutes of ingame play.
I have no mods, reinstalled the game, cleaned and reinstalled GPU drivers, tried a clean boot, tried minimum settings on everything, nothing worked. 3080Ti, 1950X CPU, 32GB RAM. Never had any problems with the game until 1.62, then 1.62 came out and the game now freezes constantly.
I’m looking forward to replaying it. I pirated it after one of the big patches and actually enjoyed the game. I had zero hype for it knowing what a shitshow it was going to be and was pleasantly surprised to find some enjoyable, and even polished parts to it. Maybe I’ll actually buy it since they didn’t completely abandon it.
Ganker before cyberpunk's release: >OMG i hope there are dickgirls in the game! can't wait to play as a futa and pound joytoy's with my 12" chromed up wiener!
Ganker after cyberpunk's release: >troony troony troon troon troony troony troony TROON SHUT UP I'M NOT OBSESSED REEEEEEEEE
you guys are legitimately fricked in the head beyond any help
It's the only thing that's been happening. Zoomtards have no idea what futa, trap or shemales are and lump everything together under "troony", because /misc/ told them so.
It's not Ganker though, that's just American culture. Ganker didn't hate trannies until politics revolved around it. Steve Bannon style campaigning and the conservative zeitgeist made it popular to hate it whie decadent leftists propped up disgusting examples of it without virtue.
Before, trannies were fetishized counter-culture so degenerate Ganker outcasts flocked to it. Now, trannies are the next thing after ugly fat people being propped up by hugbox normies so Ganker hates it.
You still find Gankerros who unironically like 2D futa dick or good porn models, but the more common thing to be exposed to is ugly troony advocacy which results in primarily negative association. That seeping into video game industry and changing development priorities and aesthetics is the worst offense.
I'm not sure if Ganker will ever collectively come to terms again with its old sensibilities while understanding their current hate is something divorced from those earlier ideas. Ganker is built on anonymous contrarianism and exaggerated emotions.
>Ganker is built on anonymous contrarianism and exaggerated emotions.
I disagree with some minor points of the rest of your post but you're right on the money here. Always has been ever shall it be.
I've grown up having to face what ails me on my own
the solution to depression is not killing myself but to get over it
so why would the solution to dysmorphia be to give into it
get over it, master your brain
I hate all of you that will spend your entire life on this earth chasing peace by usage of shortcuts, you will only fall deeper into the void
face your ailments, conquer your ailments
>What the hell is "facebook bro" about that post, anon
Posturing and self masturbatory "masculinity" that is purely for show
11 months ago
Anonymous
nothing in that post is gendered, if you think what is being said is about "masculinity" you are the one with a sexist issue here lol
11 months ago
Anonymous
>nothing in that post is gendered
Sure, if you decide that all writing is purely at face value with no reading comprehension.
11 months ago
Anonymous
so you are reading a neutral post and interpreting it based on your own bias, which is adding sexist elements to it completely unprompted...
yeah I think you're the one with sexist tendencies here
11 months ago
Anonymous
You are mentally broken. What the frick is "posturing" about that post? Telling people to face their problems?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm mentally broken in the sense that I don't intend to force my own way of solving personal issues onto a person I know nothing about. It's posturing in the way that saying "conquer your ailments" is so simpleminded as to not tie in how another person conquering their ailment might look different than your own method.
11 months ago
Anonymous
First of all, that's not what posturing means.
Second of all, cutting your dick off and chemically castrating yourself is clearly not conquering anything.
>I hate all of you that will spend your entire life on this earth chasing peace by usage of shortcuts, you will only fall deeper into the void
face your ailments, conquer your ailments
Pathetic teenage tier motivational speech that only enamors other insecure teens or literal morons with needlessly grandiose imagery and shallow revelations.
[...]
Thinking they understand what both the problem and solution are by projecting their insecurities.
>that only enamors other insecure teens
Since that was targeted at trannies that seems to fit then.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>First of all, that's not what posturing means
Posturing: The assumption of an exaggerated pose or attitude. That is exactly what posturing in this case is, its a stance taken to the exclusion of anything else. >cutting your dick off and chemically castrating yourself is clearly not conquering anything.
To you, because you have no desire to do that, and that is fine. I don;t particularly care what these people do, as long as I'm not being forced to chemically castrate myself I say go ahead. If it makes them feel better about themselves by all means.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Don't double down on misusing a word. There was no posturing in his message. > I don;t particularly care what these people do
And what does that matter? You not caring about them chemically castrating themselves doesn't mean their actions are right.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Don't double down on misusing a word
I provided you the correct context, you just refuse to tie it in to your own understanding. A specific kind of double think. >You not caring about them chemically castrating themselves doesn't mean their actions are right
I disagree with your assumption of universal rights and wrongs and tie this back to the above point about conquering ailments. If this helps those people, the care is there, the doctor is willing, and the patient has been counseled then I see no issue with it. If this was in reality an actual issue and not shadows on the wall for cultural division, then cancer therapy would not be anywhere near as developed as it is due to the inherent risks of therapy. If Joe Schmoe could stop a clinical trial because he felt is was hurting the patient despite patient-doctor approval, then that system is broken.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I provided you the correct context
Anon, you replied to a post about a guy telling people to face their fears as "posturing". There is no posturing in that post. You can say it's facebook boomer advice sure, but there's nothing posturing about it. >I disagree with your assumption of universal rights and wrongs
kek so it's good because of moral relativism? >If this helps those people, the care is there, the doctor is willing
Argument from authority. If you'd been born in the 1800's you'd also agree with lobotomies.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Anon, you replied to a post about a guy telling people to face their fears as "posturing".
Yes, but to the exclusion of any way to face your fears but his own. That is posturing. >kek so it's good because of moral relativism?
I don't know, is it? >Argument from authority. If you'd been born in the 1800's you'd also agree with lobotomies
Hence the PATIENT-doctor approval. I think relating forced lobotomies to this is a bad move. Another thing, we no longer perform lobotomies because better therapy has come along. Just like how physical castration represents a very small portion of people transitioning, vast amount of mentally ill people were not lobotomized at the drop of a hat 100 years ago. Still, I would advocate for more effect therapy in the future as it comes along.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>the exclusion of any way to face your fears but his own
He didn't mention fears. >I don't know, is it?
Why ask me when you're the one that said it? >Hence the PATIENT-doctor approval.
So as long as the patient agrees then it's all cool?
If someone walks into a doctor's office and wants their arms cut off cause they suffer from apotemnophilia and the doctor agrees, you see nothing wrong with that?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>If someone walks into a doctor's office and wants their arms cut off cause they suffer from apotemnophilia and the doctor agrees, you see nothing wrong with that?
Yes, they should be allowed to kill themselves as well.
11 months ago
Anonymous
So then you inherently disagree with the concept of mental illness.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You being the exception.
>dickgirls >traps (reverse traps are big gay) >futa >shemales
Good
>trannies
Bad
It's literally this simple.
Yes.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>In this case, fears are interchangeable with your own personal issues
No they aren't, but I'm gonna drop this point because it's not going anywhere and you'll keep doubling down. >I said I disagree with the notion of universal rights and wrongs.
Nobody was talking about universal rights and wrongs. >Quite literally yes
[...]
So I repeat, you inherently disagree with the concept of mental illness.
You're talking to 2 or 3 people my guy.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I never claimed I wasn't, but the same point applies.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>He didn't mention fears.
In this case, fears are interchangeable with your own personal issues. Fear is a primary motivator for the things we hide or expose to others around us. >Why ask me when you're the one that said it?
I didn't say that it was good due to moral relativism, that was you. I said I disagree with the notion of universal rights and wrongs. Good and bad is meaningless without a greater context. Like dropping a a nuclear bomb on Japan being one of the greatest enduring topics of net-good v. net-bad. >So as long as the patient agrees then it's all cool?
Quite literally yes, a patient cannot and should not be forced into something against their will unless they have a medical POA for decision making purposes. It's also why I can't stop someone from leaving a hospital AMA after telling them their diabetic foot needs to come off or it will kill them.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>In this case, fears are interchangeable with your own personal issues
No they aren't, but I'm gonna drop this point because it's not going anywhere and you'll keep doubling down. >I said I disagree with the notion of universal rights and wrongs.
Nobody was talking about universal rights and wrongs. >Quite literally yes
>If someone walks into a doctor's office and wants their arms cut off cause they suffer from apotemnophilia and the doctor agrees, you see nothing wrong with that?
I doubt a normal doctor would feel comfortably with that prior to getting a referral from neuro or psych but if everyone was on board, and the patient is paying, why not?
So I repeat, you inherently disagree with the concept of mental illness.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>No they aren't,
There's a greater discussion about mental illness and fear able to be had here. What is anxiety but the irrational fear of being exposed? >I'll drop this point
Ok. >Nobody was talking about universal rights and wrongs.
Fair, then its useless to say something like "doesn't mean their actions are right" because that context takes out the desire of the participant and implies that, innately, their action is wrong or right. You can't make that statement without believing in some innate moral compass to the world.
11 months ago
Anonymous
No, the context is a mentally ill person attempting to harm themselves by self-mutilation.
There's nothing "universal" about that any more than saying that killing someone randomly on the street is immoral.
Also, I see you didn't disagree with my last point.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>No, the context is a mentally ill person attempting to harm themselves by self-mutilation.
Like I said with lobotomies, physical castration is not the end goal of treatment here nor the predominant patient outcome. There is a majority you are not considering that are happily being treated with gender affirming care and hormone supplementation. Testosterone, estrogen, it works.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Castration is not just physical, it's also chemical.
Lupron is a drug given to children to "stop their puberty". That's the same drug given to pedophiles to chemically castrate them. >majority you are not considering that are happily being treated
Yes, the same way a person suffering from apotemnophilia would be happy if you cut off their limbs. At least in the short run.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Castration is not just physical, it's also chemical.
Yes, I agree. However, the "self-mutilation" point the other anon keeps returning to conjures images of scalpels. >Lupron is a drug given to children to "stop their puberty". That's the same drug given to pedophiles to chemically castrate them.
Yes, we also give ice cream to children and serial killers as their last meal on death row.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Yes, we also give ice cream to children and serial killers as their last meal on death row.
I fail to see how ice cream and a last meal are equivalent to castrating children.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I fail to see how linking chemically castrating pedophiles is also the same as elective therapy for someone transitioning, considering that Lupron is nowhere near as common as you have been led to believe. Again, there's also the patient-doctor approval part of this messaging.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Cause it's sold to people as "pausing" your puberty, whereas the drug is meant to permanently make you infertile.
You don't see this as immoral? >patient-doctor approval
We are talking about children now.
Should children be able to choose chemical castration?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>We are talking about children now.
No, we are not. I see now you realize you couldn't out-talk your way from the adults realm, so you have to drag it back to the moral panic of "Think of the children!" >Should children be able to choose chemical castration?
Like I said with the medical POA earlier, if that POA has all of the facts, and the doctor is in approval, and guideline recommendations have been attempted before this, then I have to follow this line of my own thought to its conclusion and say no, it still doesn't bother me what another person does to themselves. If it has even the smallest chance of preventing that kid from killing themself, I say go ahead.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I did talk about adults and we got to the conclusion that you do not recognize mental illnesses exist and therefore people are always right regardless of what they choose for themselves.
A guy wanting to cut his limb off is always right to do so, a guy wanting to castrate himself is always correct etc.
I wanted to see if your logic also extends to children and it seems it does.
Because it's such stupid non-argument to make in the first place. It's like a net zero.
You're right, saying that a drug is given to late-term cancer patients therefore it's ok to give to kids is a non-argument.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>we got
LOL. You got there, I am perfectly aware of mental illnesses and the advantages and drawbacks of treatment.
11 months ago
Anonymous
No, we got there. I said you don't recognize what a mental illness is and you didn't disagree with that at all.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>No, we got there
You need an explicitly written out form with the things I disagree with you on?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I have no idea which of the 5 troons that reply to me you are.
Nope, its like not giving lisinopril to a patient because it might cause hypotension and kill them. The benefits here outweigh the risks. Cancer patient may survive. Pedophile physically prevented from relapse. Transitioning person receives supportive care they need.
Benefits compared to what? What clinical trials have been attempted to stop people from transitioning?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I have no idea which of the 5 troons that reply to me you are.
Weird, you had no trouble keeping up with that right up until this post.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't since you apparently had no idea what I was referring to.
Or did you forget?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Or did you forget?
Again, do you need a written list of everything I disagree with you about?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Again, I have no idea which of the posters you even are.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>You're right, saying that a drug is given to late-term cancer patients therefore it's ok to give to kids is a non-argument.
Thank you for agree with me. It's more than drug have multiple uses referred to as "on-label" and "off-label" and can be used for those reasons with backing documentation. Hence why the argument hold no water.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, the usage being cancer patients that are dying, castrating pedos and giving it to kids.
Nothing wrong with that, right?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nope, its like not giving lisinopril to a patient because it might cause hypotension and kill them. The benefits here outweigh the risks. Cancer patient may survive. Pedophile physically prevented from relapse. Transitioning person receives supportive care they need.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Lupron is a drug given to men to "stop their testoserone" in prostate cancer. That's the same drug given to pedophiles to chemically castrate them.
Whooaaaaaaa
11 months ago
Anonymous
How is that an argument in your favor?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Because it's such stupid non-argument to make in the first place. It's like a net zero.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's the equivalent of saying "the potassium replacement you get at a hospital is the same thing we give as a lethal wienertail to death row inmates". It's meaningless other than to try and raise a quick panic out of you by the association.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>If someone walks into a doctor's office and wants their arms cut off cause they suffer from apotemnophilia and the doctor agrees, you see nothing wrong with that?
I doubt a normal doctor would feel comfortably with that prior to getting a referral from neuro or psych but if everyone was on board, and the patient is paying, why not?
11 months ago
Anonymous
So you don't care, you're just posturing to come across as open minded and supportive
Lol what makes you any different?
They will chop their dicks off and 10 years later kill themselves when they're still struggling to feel "normal" and the system has no other way to help them, society rejects them and the door to revert back is closed because they mutilated their bodies for a brief moment of ecstasy
But keep swinging that banner of progress, you already admitted to not caring, might as well look cool amidst all the corpses of the untreated mentally ill
11 months ago
Anonymous
>So you don't care, you're just posturing to come across as open minded and supportive
Sure, posturing in the sense that I wont pretend to know what helps another person unless I have experienced what they go through.
Everything you posted is conjecture, theory, not fact. I'm sure some people will react with disappointment at their choices 10 years down the line. I'm also sure some will be happy and never look back.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't think you realize just how dangerous you are
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm really not that dangerous at all, I don't presume to tell others how to live. Not even as some enlightened centrist type ideal, if morons want to change and modify their body then go ahead.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah because you don't care, they are not your direct family so if they kill themselves it's whatever.
If they want to frick their lives up you're okay with it because short term it'll make them happy and you can look cool by supporting that, you don't have to deal with the aftermath
Your lack of empathy is incredibly dangerous and sadly very common
11 months ago
Anonymous
>If they want to frick their lives up you're okay
Yes, but your putting a value on it without considering the individual. You say there will be an aftermath, but the opposite is that person becomes a more beneficial member to society by, quoting the anon that started all of this, "getting over it, mastering your brain"
11 months ago
Anonymous
No I'm considering the individual which is why I oppose general solutions by doctors that see hundreds of patients every day and won't know the personal history of someone wanting to mutilate their bodies
If you go to a doctor with mild signs of depressions you will simply be given anti-depressants, no one is gonna help you tackle the issues that surround you like abusive friends, classmates or family members much like no one will help you if the issue stems from economical hardships. You will only ever receive generic help and the minimum of effort.
People that don't feel happy with their own body will never achieve happiness by mutilating it, this is apparent by all the plastic surgery that has been going on for decades now and the eternal obsession for flawless beauty that causes women to kill themselves with implants and botox.
The fundamental way to fix your mental issues is by facing them and conquering it but that's been branded as problematic and something to avoid. People will die in droves in the very near future.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>No I'm considering the individual
>I oppose general solutions by doctors that see hundreds of patients every day and won't know the personal history of someone wanting to mutilate their bodies
I don't think you realize that most institutuons offer guidelines and doctors regularly talk to each other about patient care. None of their work occurs in a vacuum like the public might be inclined to think. >If you go to a doctor with mild signs of depressions you will simply be given anti-depressants
Because, shockingly, a doctor is NOT a psychiatrist. They can diagnose anxiety, depression, etc but they will and should do their duty to refer you to a psychiatric professional if your issues prove to be treatment resistant. If every Joe Schmoe with depression was seeing a shrink, that would tax the system to its breaking point. >People that don't feel happy with their own body will never achieve happiness by mutilating it
Again, there is no way you can possibly know that. That is for you to decide about yourself, purely a feeling that you cannot apply universally to everyone else. >The fundamental way to fix your mental issues is by facing them and conquering it
I think your major misconception of this whole argument is that I actually agree with this, but I think it is severely limiting to say that, actually, the only way for people to face their issues is YOUR way of facing YOUR issues.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I agree castration is mentally ill. If you want to be feminine, man up and have a feminine dick. But you're also mentally ill if you like different video games than me. Doesn't really fricking matter. Different life experiences.
wow how many more insults can you fit in a single post
you sure do come across as a stable person people should listen to, instead of the other anon lol
vegana pics, please.
11 months ago
Anonymous
*neovegana pics
11 months ago
Anonymous
>But you're also mentally ill if you like different video games than me.
>I hate all of you that will spend your entire life on this earth chasing peace by usage of shortcuts, you will only fall deeper into the void
face your ailments, conquer your ailments
Pathetic teenage tier motivational speech that only enamors other insecure teens or literal morons with needlessly grandiose imagery and shallow revelations.
You are mentally broken. What the frick is "posturing" about that post? Telling people to face their problems?
Thinking they understand what both the problem and solution are by projecting their insecurities.
11 months ago
Anonymous
wow how many more insults can you fit in a single post
you sure do come across as a stable person people should listen to, instead of the other anon lol
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, I can see why other teenagers would be drawn to the original anons post. You should grow out of things like that, though.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Definitely don't want to "grow up" to be like you lol you're so bitter and hateful
It's pretty much Florida Republican distraction from Trumpworld criminal activities so they confabulate some culturewar enemy out of nothing. "troony" "grooming" "blackrock", this shit only makes sense to ideology zombies, but Ganker is the toilet board for all other ideologies to take a shit in, and normal people with self respect dislike being shit on and therefore leave Ganker. So it becomes the ideology shit sewer and the discussion evolves into nonstop sewer-shit-eaters shitting and eating shit constantly while holdouts desperately try to talk about actual Gankerideogames in between being shit on by ideology shitters.
>dickgirls >traps (reverse traps are big gay) >futa >shemales
Good
>trannies
Bad
It's literally this simple.
I don't know what exactly is going on I won't read the word vomit above to understand it but trannies are mentally ill homosexuals who got tricked by the israelite to mutilate themselves. Which would be completely fine if they weren't shoved in everyone's faces. Because of the troony ilk, an entire generation was turned against futa, traps and shemales. The morons lump all of this under one banner, the troony banner. And it infuriates me.
moronic Black folk are very insistent that futa, traps, and shemales are trannies. No they're not. They're stereotypes for porn and porn only.
I'm playing Cyberpunk 2077 now. Works well, no bugs. But damn is it.. empty? Shallow? Devoid of meaty gameplay? Makes me wanna go play a superior Cyberpunk game like Deus Ex. Might as well do that. Most of this game is looking and listening to people talk about techno jargon. It's just kind of boring. They completely failed to add an interesting story hook with good writing and the gameplay to back it up.
>anons having fun with the game >Ganker NOOOO YOU MUST BE BITTER AND SCRUTINIZZES EVERY LITTLE THING!
I feel like you turn into two very different people if you hang out here long enough.
If you play this game, remember, you're everything that's wrong with the industry in 2023. We'll keep get hyped up, sloppy shitty games that under deliver because you cucks accept lies and shitty games while bolstering them up
PL is unironically almost everything I wanted them to do, so I'm pretty hype.
Legitimately the only other thing I'd like but I know it won't happen is if they made each life-path it's own parallel story alongside the main story. That to me would take the game that I consider an 8/10, bugs and all, to a 9.5, easily. Let my corpo character be a corpo, have fancy meetings and perks/items and shit. That would easily make me replay the game 3 more times, and I've already played through it twice.
you realize that no matter what, V turns Solo right
I don't understand this "LET MY V HOLD MEETINGS IN FANCY SKYSCRAPERS" shit because the whole point of the Corpo intro is V getting exiled from that life forever
The entire story after the life path part is written for a street kid. Getting exited for a kiroshi? GTFO . Jacky goes from a dude with sway over the fricking cartels to a rookie who gets exited that he gets to work with Black person the Fat and hypes Afterlife like he's never been there before. Might as well have not given us the option to choose.
Streetkid is a background, not a class. V always turns Solo, that's the point of hooking up with Jackie and learning the ropes with him. Same shit happens in the Nomad path too, V leaves his clan which effectively ends his time as a Nomad (the class) and Jackie helps him turn Solo.
What? Jackie was always a low-level merc. The valentinos are literally just street thugs.
Dexter is one of the most powerful fixers in the city. Dunno about Afterlife, but makes sense that he wouldn't really go there because none of the people he knows are on the high-end of the merc sphere.
I hope they let you play out the Jackie montage and let the player get a bit more attached to him. That was one of my main disappointments.
>Jackie was always a low-level merc
Not in the Corpo path.
Jackie still kind of is, Corpo V just uses him for a lot of higher level stuff because they were old friends.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Jackie doesn't speak like a low lever merc at Lizzies. He speaks like an experienced high level merc. Contrasted to the rest of the prologue where he takes a nosidive and and speaks like the street kid path and nomad path.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Low-level doesn't mean inexperienced. He can know what he's talking about and still be low on the pecking order. And in all of the prologues he's clearly a working merc that's been at it for at least a little while.
>And the entire story is written for it.
I don't agree with this at all. The story feels the most incompatible with Street Kid because again it makes no sense. Personally I think the corpo background works best for the story. Because in that one at least you have a pre-existing relationship with Jackie and you have a reason to be an outsider on all the street-level stuff in NIght City. Plus it gives a clear reason as to why Dex would be interested in your crew, because there's any number of good mercs but being ex-Arasaka makes you relevant to the job. I also like the friction it makes with Johnny.
Also Jackie is always a low-level merc, in corpo he's just a low-level merc that you've hired for jobs in the past.
What? Jackie was always a low-level merc. The valentinos are literally just street thugs.
Dexter is one of the most powerful fixers in the city. Dunno about Afterlife, but makes sense that he wouldn't really go there because none of the people he knows are on the high-end of the merc sphere.
I hope they let you play out the Jackie montage and let the player get a bit more attached to him. That was one of my main disappointments.
He WAS one of the most powerful fixers, he's a washed up has-been during the events of the game. The gig is supposed to be his comeback as well. And to be fair, it only goes to shit by complete coincidence.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, it's implied that a few years before 2077, he had a major job of his go so sideways it's a main reason why Pacifica is so fricked these days. He tried to play it cool and wait for his chance at a big comeback but it blows up in the worst way.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Isn't that what the story of the DLC is going to be about? Whatever shit that happened in Pacifica that turned it into basically a wasteland?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Maybe, it's mostly set in the real bad parts of Pacifica the locals call Dogtown (I think it's refereed to as "the Combat Zone" a few times in game already). You can actually see parts of it now, it's just all fenced off and shit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Maybe, it's mostly set in the real bad parts of Pacifica the locals call Dogtown (I think it's refereed to as "the Combat Zone" a few times in game already). You can actually see parts of it now, it's just all fenced off and shit.
Pretty sure Dogtown is that big island west of Night City currently inaccessible by a connecting bridge and not Pacifica.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>complete coincidence >bubbles doesn't realize the conflict with being hired by the person to steal something that is doing most of the informational legwork and taking no proactive position himself
this guy couldn't run a hotdog stand and you're meant to believe he's somebody
Nothing V does in the story would be mutually exclusive with them being a corpo. Nobody really recognizes them at any point. I really don't see what the problem would be, that it's thematically different, that I can't sit in my ivory tower and get my minions to do my work for me? Sure, but you have to make concessions in any sort of story where the player gets narrative control.
It's not like it would be hard to implement a bodyguard system that would spawn dudes in suits in combat, or a Trauma Team pickup (because naturally, Arasaka employment comes with Trauma team platinum) that lets you fast travel on demand or comes to save you when you're near death.
PL already comes with new endings so I don't see how adding a couple of new endings to each of the life paths would be unrealistic and show V not being just another merc.
except that you keep forgetting IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR CORPO V TO HAVE ACCESS TO BODY GUARDS AND FANCY ARMORED CARS AND SHIT, BECAUSE CORPO V GOT BURNED SO BADLY THEY ARE TOTALLY DONE WITH THAT WORLD
...which is why adding separate storylines to each lifepath, like I'm suggesting, could change that and make it make sense? After being fired by Arasaka, maybe you get a message from an old contact in there, who offers you a chance to get back in and destroy it from within. Or it could be a completely different corp, a fresh start. There's a million different ways it could make sense, anon.
You're contradicting yourself because you previously said that nothing about the story would be a problem with V was an active corpo but now you're asking for a completely different video game.
>Jefferson Peralez >Maiko Maeda
No, they hinted at corporate affiliations while giving us nothing in the end. Sandra Dorsett should have been a key entry into Biotechnica corporate wars.
the whole point of the Peralez quest was to show you that V is potentially getting mixed up with shit so far over his head, that it's untouchable by a lowly Street Merc, no matter how effective they are.
This has always bothered me, I understand that a corpo is almost always objectively evil, but the insistence that you either can't play as one or that you always end up in shit if you do is frankly childish.
I heard the mechanics and systems it will introduce will revamp the base game as well. Is this the case as far as we know and if so should I wait until the DLC drops to continue my first play through?
>Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty GOTY >Releases same month as Starfield >Too much bad blood because of CP2077 >Too little, too late >30€ for 20h DLC
Kek, not even close. They'll maybe get an award for visuals.
tbh it releasing on the same month as starfield is a good thing, because Bethesda games in the past few years have all been complete shitshows, this one will be the biggest yet
Any game with level / loot scaling is aids and destroys engagement. Legendary weapons become less effective than random pistols, enemy organisations that are meant to be the toughest ever are less dangerous than a random guy later on. moronic
No. Just new weapons and cyberware but we don't know how much they'll change up the gameplay. Apprently there is an airdash cyberware exclusive to Dogtown but idk I don't see that changing up shit too much.
they already said they're remaking all the perk trees and adding new ones, the game doesn't have a 'class', just lifepaths which are basically just intros/special dialogue, don't think they'll add anything to those, sadly
>remaking all the perk trees
yes >adding new ones
not sure about that >the game doesn't have a 'class'
Yes it does. if you go balls deep into the hacker skill tree then your character is a Netrunner. if you go deep into the guns skill tree you're a Solo. and within Solo you can also go deeper into the melee weapon skills. That's about it for the classes.
11 months ago
Anonymous
they mentioned at least a skill tree being related to the relic being completely new, I don't remember if it was just one or many.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Relic Tree is it's own thing that opens up once you start Phantom Liberty, kinda like the Mutations from Blood and Wine.
It uses a different resource called Relic Points, and while there aren't a lot of options for these perks they all tend to be powerful and game changing, and are all tied to cyberware options in some way.
Some examples I've found online was; >Monowire:
-gains the ability to silently decapitate someone if you are in stealth
-gains the ability to apply certain quickhacks on hit while in combat
>Gorilla Arms
-Guarding now blocks all bullet damage
-Gets a dashing charge attack that knock backs targets
-Gets an AoE Stomp that stuns targets close to V
>SmartLink
-Gains the ability to be temporally overclocked, which can get multiple bonuses such as improved headshot lock-ons, multiple target lock-ons, improved rate of fire, etc.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>SmartLink
Smart guns were cool but some enemies would have cyberware that would prevent your smartguns from locking onto them, wish they'd add a cyberware to prevent their prevention
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's literally in the game, it's called Cyberware Malfunction and only costs 6 base RAM.
11 months ago
Anonymous
There is also the nano machines tattoo you get from the granny fixer. I think it works in a similar manner.
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's a hacking thing, right? I don't want to actively have to stop the gun fight just to hack their cyberware so that I can continue the gunfight. It's much better to just stop using Smart guns entirely, the other guns don't have this bullshit.
There is also the nano machines tattoo you get from the granny fixer. I think it works in a similar manner.
that probably stops THEIR smart guns from locking on to YOU, right? I just want something that lets me use smart guns without having to check if I can or can't use them in a fight.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It is generally Tiger Claws that have the smart guns disruption tech. I usually carry 1 ranged weapon of each type and use cybernetics for mele.
11 months ago
Anonymous
that old asian chick fixer gives you tattoo that is a cyberware doing that. pay attention
11 months ago
Anonymous
Huh, you're right. Not sure if this was stated in-game.
A shiny new set of keys to jingle in front of the brainlets that defend cyberpunk just because they released a half decent anime and fixed a tenth of the bugs it had on release
>Johnny is a melodramatic, selfish peice of shit that constantly interrupts with some half-baked pop-punk drivel >Can choose whether I live in cyberspace forever, or die from cyber parkinsons imminently >Game acts like I'm giving up my life for Johnny
What the frick. I hope the expansion has a new ending where I can strap myself into an eternal torture chamber before handing over my body.
It still boggles my mind that they changed the old one simply because gamers found her pretty. What kind of sorry and jealous person you need to be to do something petty like this?
Is there anyone on the low level level who has understood that oldgays who survive and become rich and powerful keep selling this "live fast and die young" attitude so that they can burn young people out in order to keep up their status quo? Honestly that's one of the bleakest parts of the setting for me.
Sorry I'm not well versed in Cyberpunk. The closest I ever got to the game prior to playing 2077 was looking at my dad's old Rockerboy character sheet for 2020.
It's romantic and they DID need a lot of young people to die in wars in the past. Guess old habits die hard. But now they also need people to start dying and not reproducing, there's just too much of us and the elites are ready to roll out stuff in the next decades that will slash billions of jobs.
like complaining about seeing the exact same thing in diablo for decades. simply a quick way to tell whats good and not at a glance without having to cycle between two pieces of equipment and compare in case it doesnt have a built in compare function... which it does
I mean allegedly they're reworking a lot of shit for the DLC so that's technically not true.
Cyberpunk pre and post launch are going to be two different games.
The game as it currently is already plays radically different from at launch. And that is truly for the better. Sad they never added wall climbing with mantis claws in...
Futa and dickgirls are a romanization of real life hermaphrodites which are pretty rare and at birth the doc usually gives the parents a choice of if they want it to be a boy or a girl with a recommendation depending on which is more prominent. Once the choice is made a snip here or a sew their and boom you have a gal or a dude.
But for the vast majority either of their equipment is going to work that well or not at all. If they anything they are the real They/Thems but nobody in their right mind is going to come out and say they were born with a dick/vag
Ladyboys aren’t even as disgusting or delusional as troons, at least they accept what they are. homosexuals.
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>Cyberpunk 2077:Phantom Liberty >Baldur's Gate 3 >System Shock remake >Path of Exile 2 >Rogue Trader?(is it coming this year or next?)
2023 look really good ngl.
I don't know what exactly is going on I won't read the word vomit above to understand it but trannies are mentally ill homosexuals who got tricked by the israelite to mutilate themselves. Which would be completely fine if they weren't shoved in everyone's faces. Because of the troony ilk, an entire generation was turned against futa, traps and shemales. The morons lump all of this under one banner, the troony banner. And it infuriates me.
>an entire generation was turned against futa
Dick girl porn is more popular than its ever been dude, and it correlates directly with the rise of transexual orientation.
the only people saying it looks good are either paid or litterly in the game, every normal person knows the game is beyond saving and more importantly CDPR does not deserve gamers support.
Rockstar died with Arthur Morgan, they haven’t released a single piece of good content since then. Enjoy playing GTAVI starring the Moodyman and Sessanta, the only original characters they have made since the real team left after RDR2. Every other update has just been pillaging characters from Single Player as nostalgia bait, bundled with a cheap Nexus mod adding 4 new drip feed cars.
thats because they realized just how many shekels they could get out of 'online services' like gta online
so they only do that now, pushing shark cards and shit like that
I want to know how much "2.0" patch version stuff will affect the base game. The base game always deserved a "Enhanced Edition" overhaul to many systems and it sucks it will take waiting until a fricking expansion for that to happen because it needed its own focus and shouldn't be diluted by over focus on Expansion stuff. The expansion itself should be good too but still the base game needed to be fixed in many ways. Life paths needed to be way more expansive prior to the main story and their effects afterward. Romances needed to have more options than 1 straight, one gay for each sex. (it was obvious Meredith was almost a true romance but they fricked off with that) and Corpo V could have had different experiences dating Panem vs Nomad V etc. There's a lot of other stuff too
Of course one of the big things that worries me about Phantom Liberty is does it take place >After the end of the main story, provided that V doesn't choose the 1 "very bad ending
This would be the right decision. People want to know what happens to V and/or Johnny after the base game and a resolution to their...situations >during the last 1/3rd of the base game as a side story
This, unless they COMPLETELY overhaul the base game and its last third and especially ending, will be a fricking disaster and take all the gravitas away from both PL and the base game's ending. If all you do still ends up with having to go on the same final mission in the base game, then what the frick is the point? Also it means that there's no answer to what happens to V and/or Johnny after the base game's ending. This would be garbage and a waste of all the development time.
i feel used for buying their game full priced to be treated as a beta tester, and need to pay another 50$ to get the features THEY PROMISED were in the game at launch. i hate this fricking company so much.
Holy shit what is this horrorfying thread. Theres people here unironically talking like Phantom Liberty is going to make a piece of shit into a great game
Kerry does leave you if you go the Nomad Route though. He has too many ties to NC to cut and run, and it's the same deal with River.
On the other hand, both girls will always end up leaving NC so if you go the Nomad Route they stick with V.
Then look for ripperdocs and get a kereznikov and some reinforced tendons for double jumping. Get perks from the shotgun, or pistol tree that increase your movement speed or allow you to shoot mid dodge and dodge while aiming.
Blade skills are focused on DPS and Heal on Kill, mostly because blades already get so much more freedom compared to guns during movement as a baseline. Different types of guns get different perks letting you still make effective use of them while dodging, jumping, behind cover etc. Since blades dont have those limitations there isnt much impetus for blades to gain additional movement skills.
The relative simplicity of melee would be fine if certain enemies just had enough staying power and the ability to actually react to your moves.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I just want them to block and counter. I feel like I'm not asking for much.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Youre not. The system for how NPC Sandevistans work is also really lame, since they just dash towards you. It should impose the slowness on the player until its over or they activate their own Sandi. That would be way more scary then the goofy stuff they do now.
Melee combat is very overpowered and NPCs are very poor at reacting to it even when theyre using their own melee. One of the major shortcomings of this game is that if pretty much entirely lacks any enemies capable of putting up a real challenge the moment any half decent build gets going, outside of niche situations where you get swarmed in an awkward spot.
I wouldnt say its on par with oblivion because feedback, dismemberment and movement are much better, but the game desperately needs more individual enemies capable of being a threat or more dangerous situations. Game should have used much more extensive use of traps.
R*dditards are truly fricking pathetic and equally baffling. They are the only group of people I’ve ever seen that actually simp for products like they are celebrities and thots. They are like those Disney Adults but for every consumer good imaginable. They make everything they like their entire identity, I’m surprised they haven’t started using Brand names as pronouns. They are the type of people that would call Miles Morales their ‘spirit animal’.
Did they say they're changing anything about crafting? Iconics had fun quirks but not being able to bring them into late game without putting 18 levels into crafting was very annoying.
>Netrunners can only reveal your location and cause low level Overheat >Fan Mod that gives Netrunners a dozen other Quickhacks to use on you. >Creator says "Yeah this shit was already in the game files, I just changed one variable"
A lot of the alleged features from the 1.7 update just seem to be taken from popular mods. Outside of the Skill Tree rework I don't think anything show is actually all that original. It's nice to have as base game stuff but still it's not definitely not as groundbreaking as some people make it seem.
Though I am a fan of all the Reflex stuff consolidating into one tree instead of having to sprinkle your perk points over three different kinds of weapons for the sake of having some gameplay variety.
Nah the developer tweeted a post saying Phantom Liberty wasn't going to focus on any sort of romantic relationships. Personally I could dig songbird. She's not prime asian, but she aint that bad. She's kinda like that one chick from Altered Carbon whose eyes look like someone was messing around in a character creator.
Gonna be arriving in the same month as Starfield.
Frick bros how do I find time for this kino?
you have to choose
The lesser evil?
don’t buy starfield on release, play in gay pass, see it’s shit, still have time to preorder the superior Cyberpunk 2077 Expansion - Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty
yeah I have no clue where do people find the confidence that a bethesda release is playable on pc on release
Like cp is getting updates to the vanilla experience 10 years after announcement trailer
if you chose cyberpunk over starfield then you're the stupidest Black person to ever live because you didn't learn your lesson.
You have to chose lesser bad in situation like this, bethesda is known for its bug, yes, but cyberpunk 'incident' back in '20 is thousand times worse than every bethesda game bugs combined.
>but cyberpunk 'incident' back in '20 is thousand times worse than every bethesda game bugs combined.
nice revisionism shill, now FRICK OFF
Fallout 76 wasn't hyped by Bethesda for almost a decade as a genre-redefining RPG
keep movin those goalposts shill
Keep slurping that polack cum, Pawel
I accept your concession, shill
That isnt what moving the goal posts means
Nobody gave a shit about 76 before it released whereas Cyberpunk was massively hyped by fricking everybody.
Straight out of reddit
bethesda board
todd board
shittesda's shitty engine would shit itself if it were to render all this geometry with a draw distance as far as this lol
Nah. They fixed that issue with their engine long ago by finally implementing combines. Makes it a pain in the ass for modding but you can have a game that's easy to mod or you can have a game that's highly optimized. Can't have both.
>the environment reacts to falling objects even the player himself falling
This is actually pretty sweet. If this was Bethesda game that street light would've never broken from the fall.
It's so insane that this is a common opinion. Every Bethesda game is sub ME Andromeda levels of facial animation. If your idea of RPG interaction is watching a bunch of 4 polygon npcs look at a point off on the horizon while a mid voice actor chokes out stunted lines by all means knock yourself out. That's of course disregarding the bugged state their games usually launch in. Cyberpunk has its flaws but the story just works, the interactions feel real and dynamic and the narrative is interesting. The bugs don't change that.
>the interactions feel real and dynamic
There are literally no "dynamic" NPCs in Cyberpunk. Every single character you can interact with stays permanently affixed in one place until you do so, that's like saying Fromsoft games have "dynamic" characters.
this, at most they vary non-interactable NPC locations depending upon your starting career. Completely static, anyone who claims there are dynamic interactions is just messing with you. And I can be fair, if you point a weapon at a random NPC it can generate a wave shooting segment. But It doesn't affect the player characters stats and it's not acknowledged in conversations. Not even in any side quests.
Not dynamic in terms of scripting but dynamic in terms of blocking and animation. It's the difference between Bethesda's static talking head dialog system and things like being able to have a conversation with multiple people in Cyberpunk.
Other way around you fricking moron. Cyberpunk IS already fixed unless you're a moronic poorgay or a consoleBlack person (I consider them less than human) so there isn't really a risk to buying Phantom Liberty. Starfield on the other hand WILL be bugged on release. And yes it might be kino down the line (thanks to modders) but it'll take a while.
When Skyrim was released I bought it for PS3 and during the first week there was a plethora of save bugs and crashes which made it impossible to play beyond whiterun in the main quest. It was patched but that incident woke me up to the reality. During the same month I bought the PC version, it also had this issue but there was a mod within 24 hours that patched it. I suspect this was the start of the community patch. In any case... I've always had issues with Bethseda open world games. What I experienced with cyberpunk 2077 is on that same level. I think if we are going to shit on CDPR then we need to remember the bad times, when Todd disappointed us in ways that always got a memory-hole.
IMAGINE FALLING FOR THE "POWER OF THE CELL" HAHAHAHAA
No it isn't fixed you shill homosexual. Cyberpunk will never be what those Polish c**ts promised. Now frick off back to sucking that CDPR dick, Black person.
Next time, don't buy into obviously overhyped pre-rendered trailers that can't possibly reflect a final product given the amount of time that was spent in development.
they were still promising features when they were showing gameplay where the features were obviously not in the game
>buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword
now type that again without crying you fricking homosexual
I preordered Fallout 4 and i regret it entirely. I skipped Fallout 76 and regret nothing. I'm not even thinking about Starfield for at least 2 months after it releases
Even base Cyberpunk is better than Fallout 4 in space
That is yet to be seen. It would be cool if he did.
>if you chose cyberpunk over starfield then you're the stupidest Black person to ever live because you didn't learn your lesson.
>You have to chose lesser bad in situation like this, bethesda is known for its bug, yes, but cyberpunk 'incident' back in '20 is thousand times worse than every bethesda game bugs combined.
It's like these people have never played an Egosoft game. Noobs, the lot of em.
>”You didn’t learn your lesson!”
>Literally falling prey to hype in the exact same post
2/10 bait.
I have a feeling Starfield is gonna be disappointing it really sunk in it was just another badly written shallow Bethesda game from the showcase whereas Phantom Liberty is actually looking kino.
>I have a feeling Starfield is gonna be disappointing
don't worry, the troony modders will fix it.
I'm going into Phantom liberty with blood in my eyes because I haven't forgotten what happened this past 3 years.
Both will be buggy messes on launch, just wait for whichever one is more fixed months later
The todd interview killed all my interest in starfield.
Where is the kino?
GOG
pawel give the 1.7 patch you b***h
apparently it’s called the 2.0 patch internally, and most likely on release as well
>on pc
at all. every single time todd promises something on stage, it’s not only a lie in terms of scipe of that particular mechanic, but also a confirmation that it will be bugged to hell and back on release, and for 10 years after that, if you don’t install community-made patches
Troonpunk 2023 Phantom Genitals looking kino bros!!!!
they removed his apple lol
double funny since it just calls attention to it
>caring about trannies in cyberpunk setting
Zoomers are really irredeemable morons.
I'm a bit of a CDPR shill, but putting troon e-celebs in your game is indefensible.
You have to be mentally ill to get offended by it to begin with.
trannies are literally mentally ill and you are a spineless shill Black person homosexual
That's why they perfectly fit cyberpunk. Again, frick off you moronic zoomer /misc/ homosexual that has no idea about the setting.
It's terrifying to know that people entrusted their children to that degenerate freak. How many kids do you reckon they diddled?
what the actual frick. was this dude at least fired?
>zoomer morons are completely brainwashed by the troony boogeyman
Stop browsing /misc/.
here's your (You)
If you want to b***h about trannies then b***h about the bartender in Afterlife.
i only know some of the npc are youtubers are because of /v going apeshit over it.
the characters are just like any other sidequest npc.
Go back to ResetGender you deranged ugly homosexual.
You are a fricking moronic homosexual and you should literally have a nice day. If the Cyberpunk universe was real, trannies as we know them would cease to exist and they certainly wouldn't look like hons with non-passing voices like "Claire".
>hons with non-passing voices like "Claire".
Lol
90% of whiners wouldn't even have noticed if not for the flag
The flag and the gay-ass quest is where the devs went wrong
It's bad enough that you and the other trannies gaslight each other into thinking you pass in threads on /lgbt/, don't bring that shit here.
Obsessed
the thick ass man-eyebrows and cyberware on the throat are like pottery. did he("suzy") or CDPR realize this at any point of the character modeling? Is it meant to be on the nose for self-empowerment? To everybody else it just comes off as poetic mockery.
There was already a troony in cyberpunk. The one that drove that truck and served drinks at the Afterlife
Looks are everything in Night City btw lmao god this game is a joke
It's not just about race... These devs are ignoring very important things. extremely important. I do not like furries, but I still have fond memories of characters like this.
You saw how absolutely bare bones the "factions" were. Do you really think CDPR have the talent to pull off furries?
Bro, as a dev with any fricking spirit you should at least try to give the people what they want. If it sucks then whatever, but they didn't even fricking try. Furries are the absolute worst in my experience, but you don't completely ignore that audience. That's just bad business. Especially in a setting where it is perfectly acceptable. Even modders have a hard time grasping this.
And for that matter! What about Trekkie gangs! I wanted to beat wannabe-captian-kirk into the ground! There was only one Alien conspiracy quest and it ends on such a downnote.
It's time you realized that CDPR lied from the start. They got lucky with The Witcher 3 and fed the hype for Cyberpunk. It was a scam from the start. The entire time they were trying to get on that ESG loan gravy train and now that they're on it, they no longer care.
Anon, I'm not sure you're being intentionally moronic or just weren't there, but Witcher 3 was almost as buggy as CP2077 on release.
The difference is, Witcher didn't have half the hype 2077 did, so people didn't really care about the bugs.
2077 was marketed a lot and so ecelebs got on it, and all ecelebs want is clicks. What's a good way to get clicks? Controversy. So of course everyone got on it and started making fun of it, even though Witcher was just bad, nobody was interested in actually looking at the good parts of the game.
Ironically enough, I played on release and only ran into the occasional visual bug, which I could care less about.
>but Witcher 3 was almost as buggy as CP2077 on release.
It's not about the bugs. It's about everything else. They did not expect The Witcher 3 to get as big as it did. Cyberpunk was a cashgrab scam from the start.
>nobody was interested in actually looking at the good parts of the game.
Cyberspunk had no good parts. Every single thing they said about the game was a lie. From life paths and "open missions" to simple things like 3rd camera, they didn't add it because either they didn't want to pay for the dev time or they lacked the people to do it. Once Sony pulled it off their store, everyone at CDPR started throwing everyone else under the bus.
>had no good parts
I know I'm wasting keystrokes but there's plenty of good things about it. One of the coolest open world cities in gaming, the story beats hit pretty well and are high fidelity, and honestly, for an RPG, the shooting is pretty decent. The game also had a great soundtrack and a pretty diverse set of characters (in a good way, not the woke, look at me I'm black and gay way) A lot of the side stories were pretty good too, like Judy and Kerry. I personally liked Keanu and I think his shitty acting fit there character, funnily enough, and the schizo trope of having someone stuck in your body was done well.
I get not liking the game, plenty of reasons not to, but saying there's nothing good in it is just being moronic.
>One of the coolest open world cities in gaming
Holy moronic zoomer.
Out of all the points you could've contested me on, you pick that one?
Let's hear it then, this should be funny. Surely you can name 1 (one) city in games that's visually better realized and more interesting than Night City.
moron the city is completely empty, tons of buildings clip into other buildings, flying trams that go nowhere, a big part of the city being inaccessible and surrounded by invisible walls etc.
Not to mention that the driving fricking sucks so it isn't even fun to move around.
I'm still waiting for that answer, anon. If the city sucks so much, naming a better one should be insanely easy.
always the same shit with you morons. Talking out of your ass.
Any Rockstar game.
Also Mafia 2002 had a better city. You know what Mafia 2002 also had that cybershit doesn't? Public transport that you could actually use and NPC's that didn't despawn if you walked a few feet in a different direction. Also actually busy streets and functional police.
>rockstar game
Oh yeah, I remember all the times I drove around a GTA city and stopped to look at the buildings or found something cool.
Oh wait, that never fricking happened.
If you were going to go with just pure visual fidelity at least say Novigrad or some shit, not garbage ass 'realistic' towns from Mafia or GTA with literally nothing to see or do in them.
> literally nothing to see or do in them
You should love them then cybertroon. They're exactly like the game you love so much.
works on my machine, bud
EVEN without the sidequests, lore weapons and shit you find all over the city, literally walking by and just looking stores, ads and designs around the city, it has more attention to detail and worldbuilding than all GTA games combined.
Cope.
>no dude you don't understand, the city is totally alive because I can walk around and look at ads 🙂
holy kek
You're trying too hard.
Anon, you can enjoy a shit game without coping about how great it is.
I watch shitty tv shows and read garbage manga, but I don't go around telling people what secret gems they really are.
I'm new in this thread, I haven't said shit beyond you're trying too hard.
Trying too hard at what? The guy I replied to literally said he likes driving around the city to look at ads.
When all you've had to say is
>drag out minor issues
>ignore statements
>post webms of bugs from the trash ps4 release
>letting trannies live rent free inside your head.
Either you're intentionally shitposting and you've gone a bit too hard, or you're unironically just extremely moronic.
You aren't convincing me you have a point to argue so much as you're disgruntled and have had nothing of value to say in your entire argument.
Minor issues like the city being dead in a conversation about how the city is so well made?
Maybe seethe less and make an actual point next time.
Once again I am a different person, I was just reading the thread and saw your tantrum and decided to call you out on it.
What does you being a different person have to do with that, esl moron?
It isn't a minor issue if it was the entire point of the conversation.
Oh, you weren't actually confused?
That's even more sad.
I'm not going to waste my time on you like that other guy did because all you do is ignore arguments and shitpost.
Consider castration, although I doubt that's going to make a difference in the grand scheme of things it's still better safe than sorry.
Holy shit you are moronic. kek
>Consider castration
That's more of a cybertroon type of thing.
Black person homosexual troony. Keep blasing shit all over your own face, it's funny to watch.
kek you are fuming
>t. mind numblingy furious
lmaoing @ ur life
How long until you commit suicide? A few years at most, right?
You first, maybe you can push that 41% to a whopping 42%.
Your parents will bury you under your birthname. Does that upset you?
At least my parents will be able to bury me instead of having to hire an excavator for your turbo lard fat ass.
So your comeback is that you're a troon that will have a nice day but at least you'll fit in your grave?
Holy KEK
You must have shed a few pounds trying to come up with that.
Also I called you a troony first, no backsies Black person.
what the frick are you doing with your lives morons
We're talking about video games, what does it fricking look like?
I'm talking about videogames and this
Cybertroon came into this thread specifically to seethe at me.
>wah wah wah I haven't dilated today so i'm grumpy
I think you meant to post this on your discord server.
No I was quoting you silly 🙂
But I never said that, cybertroon.
Yes you did.
>cybertroon hears voices in his head
Hmmm...
Who are you even talking to?
not him but art direction was one of the very few things the game did right
which is hilarious because the art director fat chick with dyed hair and a mohawk
I thought it was bad.
"style over substance" is the message of the game yet everything and everyone looks ugly as shit.
Sleeping Dogs.
I've been playing the game for a week now, and only autists would notice those type of glitches. The game looks amazing on my rig, and it feels quite alive compared to 99% of the games released in the past decade
You've been playing it for way more than a week, /vg/ crossposting homosexual.
>accuses an anon of being an /vg/tard
take your meds
The only people that come here to defend cybershit are /vg/ gays that spend 30 hours a week taking pictures of their gay avatars.
here you go, you massive fricking homosexual
>the story beats hit pretty well and are high fidelity
I don't know what you're smoking but it can't be good for you if it gives you this level of derangement. Story is either completely flat or drops when it's about to get good(that politician quest that just fricking ends out of nowhere).
>the shooting is pretty decent
It most certainly is not. The whole 3 gun variations between a single type with incremental stat boosts is the worst thing they could've done. It's a numbers game and they actually had a perfectly lore friendly reason for some enemies to be bullet sponges. Except they never implemented ammo types because that would've been too much work for the scam.
>The game also had a great soundtrack
I will give you this, it is nice.
>like Judy and Kerry
No. That's like saying stinky Panam and that bartender had good side stories.
>Keanu
Keanu was the whole problem with the story. Should have never accepted to be part of the game.
>I get not liking the game, plenty of reasons not to, but saying there's nothing good in it is just being moronic.
There is literally nothing good about the game or in it. Soundtrack is by contrast good.
>It most certainly is not.
It is, you can use environmental objects and other special weapon features like ricochet
to navigate through instances in whatever way you like.
>Story is either completely flat
It's not flat at any point, every gig and mission gives you significant information on the lore, location and characters within that specific scene. And there is plenty of NCP dialog to hear while you sneak into position. The main story itself is dry.
i didn't bother replying because the guy is being intentionally asinine
people jerk off shit like Deus Ex and New Vegas when they shooting is literally ten times worse and doesn't have a tenth of the variety of shit you can do in 2077.
I liked the main story. It wasn't the generic garbage like every other game these days where you're the chosen one, saving the world or some shit. Just a lot of different factions and people involved in a corporate plot.
It wasn't as choice-heavy as I'd like, but as a mostly linear story, I thought it was fairly interesting.
I mean, people are out here praising shit like RDR2 where Arthur is literally murdering 100 cops in town, beating a deathly sick man half to death in front of his family for a few dollars, and then trying to make it out that he redeemed himself by saving a fellow murderer, or that his death was somehow sad in any way.
>Asinine
You're arguing with 2 different people, moron.
you pre-purchased Phantom Liberty, didn't you?
Not yet, I likely will get it. I don't pre-order games.
I guess we are getting more shitty races.
>2077 and he still doesn't pass
The game is arguably anti-trans
this is a gay meme, in the shit on your wiener gay, not ghey gay
Neat. Thanks for the new MD5 filters.
How bad will her voice acting be
>'Claire' exists
>we have the technology to make you look like an actual woman
>nah, I'd rather look like a current-year troony
pottery
>car
Yeah, I am gonna ignore the racing part of the game again.
n-noo this is soo triggering, im an alpha male btw
Discord?
cyber trannies are pretty on brand for a sci-fi dystopia. medical tech is only going to advance and trannies aren't going anywhere
How can one company be so pozzed?
did he removed his dam's apple?
>Mad that a game about transhumanism has transgender people
You could literally play a dickgirl or c**tboy from day one in CP2077, why are you suddenly getting so assblasted now?
>release shit game
>please pay 30 dollars we promise we fixed it
>Charge full price for a game
>Game has withheld content and is a version of game that failed QA tests
>Some time later
>Release 'DLC' with the cut content and mechanics promised in the original game
>Charge an additional $30
This will be the new standard in game development.
>will
huh?
>shit game
imagine being this much of a braindead npc lol
Cyberpunk was always great, now it's gonna be the greatest of this gen
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Fricking this, no one is dumb enough to fall for the shill campaign this time.
Ended up picking it up half off recently now that there have been a number of patches. It's fairly passable now, still glitchy as hell with NPCs getting caught in the ground for a while or lighting freaking out. Definitely not anywhere near the level it was hyped to be, but it does show some promise at least. Honestly they should have probably just been more up front with things sooner and then switched to a scheme of releasing the base game for something like $25 to $30 and then doing a bunch of $15 to $20 DLC expansions that were each a new character and storyline with each one having different character backgrounds and build options it could have ended up really good, if still rather overpriced.
Cp2077 proof that with good marketing and promotion shit(edgerunner) you can sell your shitty 5/10 game and easily get 10/10 score by critics and coomer/zoomers defend your game
YAAS QWEEN GIVE US YOUR MONEY GOY
ok, vlad, take the L already and drink the paint thinner
Will the game finally be worth a 7/10 once the expansion comes out? So far its a clear 4/10.
I just got the game, can I just go all punching? I just want big cyborg arms to punch people with.
Yes you can. I would wait to play the game until to next overhaul patch comes out a week before Phantom Liberty though.
yeah I'm playing like this rn and it's hilarious
Base game or modded? I plan to replay in a month
it's completely vanilla 1.6 on hardest difficulty
note, it might change a bit in 2.0 considering how there is said to be NO more damage perks anymore
Monowire is the best weapon but it gets boring after a while
melee only isn't just viable it's pretty much the most fun way to play
I basically only used katanas, Johnny's hero pistol when I unlocked it, and the kanabo sometimes for fun
It would be either Cyberpunk 2077:Phantom Liberty or Baldur's Gate 3 that will win GOTY.
Too little, too late. CDPR will need to beg Trigger to make another season of Edgerunners so all the cultists can pretend the game is good again.
Won't the update ruin the mods? So you have to wait another year for the finished game + new mods
Its a cdpr game, mods are irrelevant to the experience
confirmed how, exactly?
Cause I said so
>still broken since 1.62
Whats broken?
Everything
Why are you here posting about a game you dont play when you could be jerking off
Because I played this piece of shit to completion the week it released and still find it funny to laugh at CDPR cultists like you.
Post achievement list on gog
game balance
i believe that i wasn't even level 20 when i played the last time and i just shat on everything the game threw at me on the hardest difficulty
i couldn't care less about the story so the fact that my build was already this good so early in the game and would only get better just made me drop the game
Well, I get freezes when opening fast travel terminals, when switching menu tabs, sometimes on the intro cutscenes, when creating a new character, or, if I manage to avoid all of that, after about 10-20 minutes of ingame play.
I have no mods, reinstalled the game, cleaned and reinstalled GPU drivers, tried a clean boot, tried minimum settings on everything, nothing worked. 3080Ti, 1950X CPU, 32GB RAM. Never had any problems with the game until 1.62, then 1.62 came out and the game now freezes constantly.
seems like your savegame's just fricked
How does a savegame cause intro cutscenes to freeze? That's before a save is loaded.
Shit computer
Can't wait to see a bunch of morons get burned because they mistakenly believe a decent anime adaptation somehow redeems the game.
will they be able to pull a blood and wine?
Bro how many times you gonna make this thread? You've been at this for a month. No one cares my dude.
>Still no TPS mode
Nah.
>literal troony influencer put into game
No thanks, I don’t suck wieners and eat cum.
i mean… if they’re cute i would….
I’m looking forward to replaying it. I pirated it after one of the big patches and actually enjoyed the game. I had zero hype for it knowing what a shitshow it was going to be and was pleasantly surprised to find some enjoyable, and even polished parts to it. Maybe I’ll actually buy it since they didn’t completely abandon it.
Ganker before cyberpunk's release:
>OMG i hope there are dickgirls in the game! can't wait to play as a futa and pound joytoy's with my 12" chromed up wiener!
Ganker after cyberpunk's release:
>troony troony troon troon troony troony troony TROON SHUT UP I'M NOT OBSESSED REEEEEEEEE
you guys are legitimately fricked in the head beyond any help
Ganker before cyberpunk's release was full shazam posting and complaining about troony flag on a car you inbreed monkey
thanks for outing yourself as newbie zoomers and proving my point
>full shazam posting
no. no it wasnt dickhead. it was ONE guy who was posting it over and over. Literally fricked in the head.
That never happened Black person
It's the only thing that's been happening. Zoomtards have no idea what futa, trap or shemales are and lump everything together under "troony", because /misc/ told them so.
I look like that
It's not Ganker though, that's just American culture. Ganker didn't hate trannies until politics revolved around it. Steve Bannon style campaigning and the conservative zeitgeist made it popular to hate it whie decadent leftists propped up disgusting examples of it without virtue.
Before, trannies were fetishized counter-culture so degenerate Ganker outcasts flocked to it. Now, trannies are the next thing after ugly fat people being propped up by hugbox normies so Ganker hates it.
You still find Gankerros who unironically like 2D futa dick or good porn models, but the more common thing to be exposed to is ugly troony advocacy which results in primarily negative association. That seeping into video game industry and changing development priorities and aesthetics is the worst offense.
I'm not sure if Ganker will ever collectively come to terms again with its old sensibilities while understanding their current hate is something divorced from those earlier ideas. Ganker is built on anonymous contrarianism and exaggerated emotions.
>Ganker is built on anonymous contrarianism and exaggerated emotions.
I disagree with some minor points of the rest of your post but you're right on the money here. Always has been ever shall it be.
I've grown up having to face what ails me on my own
the solution to depression is not killing myself but to get over it
so why would the solution to dysmorphia be to give into it
get over it, master your brain
I hate all of you that will spend your entire life on this earth chasing peace by usage of shortcuts, you will only fall deeper into the void
face your ailments, conquer your ailments
>so why would the solution to dysmorphia be to give into it
The only way out is through, anon.
This reads like Andrew Tate or Facebook bro shit. I can't tell if this is honest or satire. I assume the latter.
Regardless, buck up and take the troony wiener you prissy b***h.
What the hell is "facebook bro" about that post, anon? He is just telling people to not cut their dicks off. lol
>What the hell is "facebook bro" about that post, anon
Posturing and self masturbatory "masculinity" that is purely for show
nothing in that post is gendered, if you think what is being said is about "masculinity" you are the one with a sexist issue here lol
>nothing in that post is gendered
Sure, if you decide that all writing is purely at face value with no reading comprehension.
so you are reading a neutral post and interpreting it based on your own bias, which is adding sexist elements to it completely unprompted...
yeah I think you're the one with sexist tendencies here
You are mentally broken. What the frick is "posturing" about that post? Telling people to face their problems?
I'm mentally broken in the sense that I don't intend to force my own way of solving personal issues onto a person I know nothing about. It's posturing in the way that saying "conquer your ailments" is so simpleminded as to not tie in how another person conquering their ailment might look different than your own method.
First of all, that's not what posturing means.
Second of all, cutting your dick off and chemically castrating yourself is clearly not conquering anything.
>that only enamors other insecure teens
Since that was targeted at trannies that seems to fit then.
>First of all, that's not what posturing means
Posturing: The assumption of an exaggerated pose or attitude. That is exactly what posturing in this case is, its a stance taken to the exclusion of anything else.
>cutting your dick off and chemically castrating yourself is clearly not conquering anything.
To you, because you have no desire to do that, and that is fine. I don;t particularly care what these people do, as long as I'm not being forced to chemically castrate myself I say go ahead. If it makes them feel better about themselves by all means.
Don't double down on misusing a word. There was no posturing in his message.
> I don;t particularly care what these people do
And what does that matter? You not caring about them chemically castrating themselves doesn't mean their actions are right.
>Don't double down on misusing a word
I provided you the correct context, you just refuse to tie it in to your own understanding. A specific kind of double think.
>You not caring about them chemically castrating themselves doesn't mean their actions are right
I disagree with your assumption of universal rights and wrongs and tie this back to the above point about conquering ailments. If this helps those people, the care is there, the doctor is willing, and the patient has been counseled then I see no issue with it. If this was in reality an actual issue and not shadows on the wall for cultural division, then cancer therapy would not be anywhere near as developed as it is due to the inherent risks of therapy. If Joe Schmoe could stop a clinical trial because he felt is was hurting the patient despite patient-doctor approval, then that system is broken.
>I provided you the correct context
Anon, you replied to a post about a guy telling people to face their fears as "posturing". There is no posturing in that post. You can say it's facebook boomer advice sure, but there's nothing posturing about it.
>I disagree with your assumption of universal rights and wrongs
kek so it's good because of moral relativism?
>If this helps those people, the care is there, the doctor is willing
Argument from authority. If you'd been born in the 1800's you'd also agree with lobotomies.
>Anon, you replied to a post about a guy telling people to face their fears as "posturing".
Yes, but to the exclusion of any way to face your fears but his own. That is posturing.
>kek so it's good because of moral relativism?
I don't know, is it?
>Argument from authority. If you'd been born in the 1800's you'd also agree with lobotomies
Hence the PATIENT-doctor approval. I think relating forced lobotomies to this is a bad move. Another thing, we no longer perform lobotomies because better therapy has come along. Just like how physical castration represents a very small portion of people transitioning, vast amount of mentally ill people were not lobotomized at the drop of a hat 100 years ago. Still, I would advocate for more effect therapy in the future as it comes along.
>the exclusion of any way to face your fears but his own
He didn't mention fears.
>I don't know, is it?
Why ask me when you're the one that said it?
>Hence the PATIENT-doctor approval.
So as long as the patient agrees then it's all cool?
If someone walks into a doctor's office and wants their arms cut off cause they suffer from apotemnophilia and the doctor agrees, you see nothing wrong with that?
>If someone walks into a doctor's office and wants their arms cut off cause they suffer from apotemnophilia and the doctor agrees, you see nothing wrong with that?
Yes, they should be allowed to kill themselves as well.
So then you inherently disagree with the concept of mental illness.
You being the exception.
Yes.
You're talking to 2 or 3 people my guy.
I never claimed I wasn't, but the same point applies.
>He didn't mention fears.
In this case, fears are interchangeable with your own personal issues. Fear is a primary motivator for the things we hide or expose to others around us.
>Why ask me when you're the one that said it?
I didn't say that it was good due to moral relativism, that was you. I said I disagree with the notion of universal rights and wrongs. Good and bad is meaningless without a greater context. Like dropping a a nuclear bomb on Japan being one of the greatest enduring topics of net-good v. net-bad.
>So as long as the patient agrees then it's all cool?
Quite literally yes, a patient cannot and should not be forced into something against their will unless they have a medical POA for decision making purposes. It's also why I can't stop someone from leaving a hospital AMA after telling them their diabetic foot needs to come off or it will kill them.
>In this case, fears are interchangeable with your own personal issues
No they aren't, but I'm gonna drop this point because it's not going anywhere and you'll keep doubling down.
>I said I disagree with the notion of universal rights and wrongs.
Nobody was talking about universal rights and wrongs.
>Quite literally yes
So I repeat, you inherently disagree with the concept of mental illness.
>No they aren't,
There's a greater discussion about mental illness and fear able to be had here. What is anxiety but the irrational fear of being exposed?
>I'll drop this point
Ok.
>Nobody was talking about universal rights and wrongs.
Fair, then its useless to say something like "doesn't mean their actions are right" because that context takes out the desire of the participant and implies that, innately, their action is wrong or right. You can't make that statement without believing in some innate moral compass to the world.
No, the context is a mentally ill person attempting to harm themselves by self-mutilation.
There's nothing "universal" about that any more than saying that killing someone randomly on the street is immoral.
Also, I see you didn't disagree with my last point.
>No, the context is a mentally ill person attempting to harm themselves by self-mutilation.
Like I said with lobotomies, physical castration is not the end goal of treatment here nor the predominant patient outcome. There is a majority you are not considering that are happily being treated with gender affirming care and hormone supplementation. Testosterone, estrogen, it works.
Castration is not just physical, it's also chemical.
Lupron is a drug given to children to "stop their puberty". That's the same drug given to pedophiles to chemically castrate them.
>majority you are not considering that are happily being treated
Yes, the same way a person suffering from apotemnophilia would be happy if you cut off their limbs. At least in the short run.
>Castration is not just physical, it's also chemical.
Yes, I agree. However, the "self-mutilation" point the other anon keeps returning to conjures images of scalpels.
>Lupron is a drug given to children to "stop their puberty". That's the same drug given to pedophiles to chemically castrate them.
Yes, we also give ice cream to children and serial killers as their last meal on death row.
>Yes, we also give ice cream to children and serial killers as their last meal on death row.
I fail to see how ice cream and a last meal are equivalent to castrating children.
I fail to see how linking chemically castrating pedophiles is also the same as elective therapy for someone transitioning, considering that Lupron is nowhere near as common as you have been led to believe. Again, there's also the patient-doctor approval part of this messaging.
Cause it's sold to people as "pausing" your puberty, whereas the drug is meant to permanently make you infertile.
You don't see this as immoral?
>patient-doctor approval
We are talking about children now.
Should children be able to choose chemical castration?
>We are talking about children now.
No, we are not. I see now you realize you couldn't out-talk your way from the adults realm, so you have to drag it back to the moral panic of "Think of the children!"
>Should children be able to choose chemical castration?
Like I said with the medical POA earlier, if that POA has all of the facts, and the doctor is in approval, and guideline recommendations have been attempted before this, then I have to follow this line of my own thought to its conclusion and say no, it still doesn't bother me what another person does to themselves. If it has even the smallest chance of preventing that kid from killing themself, I say go ahead.
I did talk about adults and we got to the conclusion that you do not recognize mental illnesses exist and therefore people are always right regardless of what they choose for themselves.
A guy wanting to cut his limb off is always right to do so, a guy wanting to castrate himself is always correct etc.
I wanted to see if your logic also extends to children and it seems it does.
You're right, saying that a drug is given to late-term cancer patients therefore it's ok to give to kids is a non-argument.
>we got
LOL. You got there, I am perfectly aware of mental illnesses and the advantages and drawbacks of treatment.
No, we got there. I said you don't recognize what a mental illness is and you didn't disagree with that at all.
>No, we got there
You need an explicitly written out form with the things I disagree with you on?
I have no idea which of the 5 troons that reply to me you are.
Benefits compared to what? What clinical trials have been attempted to stop people from transitioning?
>I have no idea which of the 5 troons that reply to me you are.
Weird, you had no trouble keeping up with that right up until this post.
I didn't since you apparently had no idea what I was referring to.
Or did you forget?
>Or did you forget?
Again, do you need a written list of everything I disagree with you about?
Again, I have no idea which of the posters you even are.
>You're right, saying that a drug is given to late-term cancer patients therefore it's ok to give to kids is a non-argument.
Thank you for agree with me. It's more than drug have multiple uses referred to as "on-label" and "off-label" and can be used for those reasons with backing documentation. Hence why the argument hold no water.
Yes, the usage being cancer patients that are dying, castrating pedos and giving it to kids.
Nothing wrong with that, right?
Nope, its like not giving lisinopril to a patient because it might cause hypotension and kill them. The benefits here outweigh the risks. Cancer patient may survive. Pedophile physically prevented from relapse. Transitioning person receives supportive care they need.
Lupron is a drug given to men to "stop their testoserone" in prostate cancer. That's the same drug given to pedophiles to chemically castrate them.
Whooaaaaaaa
How is that an argument in your favor?
Because it's such stupid non-argument to make in the first place. It's like a net zero.
It's the equivalent of saying "the potassium replacement you get at a hospital is the same thing we give as a lethal wienertail to death row inmates". It's meaningless other than to try and raise a quick panic out of you by the association.
>If someone walks into a doctor's office and wants their arms cut off cause they suffer from apotemnophilia and the doctor agrees, you see nothing wrong with that?
I doubt a normal doctor would feel comfortably with that prior to getting a referral from neuro or psych but if everyone was on board, and the patient is paying, why not?
So you don't care, you're just posturing to come across as open minded and supportive
Lol what makes you any different?
They will chop their dicks off and 10 years later kill themselves when they're still struggling to feel "normal" and the system has no other way to help them, society rejects them and the door to revert back is closed because they mutilated their bodies for a brief moment of ecstasy
But keep swinging that banner of progress, you already admitted to not caring, might as well look cool amidst all the corpses of the untreated mentally ill
>So you don't care, you're just posturing to come across as open minded and supportive
Sure, posturing in the sense that I wont pretend to know what helps another person unless I have experienced what they go through.
Everything you posted is conjecture, theory, not fact. I'm sure some people will react with disappointment at their choices 10 years down the line. I'm also sure some will be happy and never look back.
I don't think you realize just how dangerous you are
I'm really not that dangerous at all, I don't presume to tell others how to live. Not even as some enlightened centrist type ideal, if morons want to change and modify their body then go ahead.
Yeah because you don't care, they are not your direct family so if they kill themselves it's whatever.
If they want to frick their lives up you're okay with it because short term it'll make them happy and you can look cool by supporting that, you don't have to deal with the aftermath
Your lack of empathy is incredibly dangerous and sadly very common
>If they want to frick their lives up you're okay
Yes, but your putting a value on it without considering the individual. You say there will be an aftermath, but the opposite is that person becomes a more beneficial member to society by, quoting the anon that started all of this, "getting over it, mastering your brain"
No I'm considering the individual which is why I oppose general solutions by doctors that see hundreds of patients every day and won't know the personal history of someone wanting to mutilate their bodies
If you go to a doctor with mild signs of depressions you will simply be given anti-depressants, no one is gonna help you tackle the issues that surround you like abusive friends, classmates or family members much like no one will help you if the issue stems from economical hardships. You will only ever receive generic help and the minimum of effort.
People that don't feel happy with their own body will never achieve happiness by mutilating it, this is apparent by all the plastic surgery that has been going on for decades now and the eternal obsession for flawless beauty that causes women to kill themselves with implants and botox.
The fundamental way to fix your mental issues is by facing them and conquering it but that's been branded as problematic and something to avoid. People will die in droves in the very near future.
>No I'm considering the individual
>I oppose general solutions by doctors that see hundreds of patients every day and won't know the personal history of someone wanting to mutilate their bodies
I don't think you realize that most institutuons offer guidelines and doctors regularly talk to each other about patient care. None of their work occurs in a vacuum like the public might be inclined to think.
>If you go to a doctor with mild signs of depressions you will simply be given anti-depressants
Because, shockingly, a doctor is NOT a psychiatrist. They can diagnose anxiety, depression, etc but they will and should do their duty to refer you to a psychiatric professional if your issues prove to be treatment resistant. If every Joe Schmoe with depression was seeing a shrink, that would tax the system to its breaking point.
>People that don't feel happy with their own body will never achieve happiness by mutilating it
Again, there is no way you can possibly know that. That is for you to decide about yourself, purely a feeling that you cannot apply universally to everyone else.
>The fundamental way to fix your mental issues is by facing them and conquering it
I think your major misconception of this whole argument is that I actually agree with this, but I think it is severely limiting to say that, actually, the only way for people to face their issues is YOUR way of facing YOUR issues.
I agree castration is mentally ill. If you want to be feminine, man up and have a feminine dick. But you're also mentally ill if you like different video games than me. Doesn't really fricking matter. Different life experiences.
vegana pics, please.
*neovegana pics
>But you're also mentally ill if you like different video games than me.
>I hate all of you that will spend your entire life on this earth chasing peace by usage of shortcuts, you will only fall deeper into the void
face your ailments, conquer your ailments
Pathetic teenage tier motivational speech that only enamors other insecure teens or literal morons with needlessly grandiose imagery and shallow revelations.
Thinking they understand what both the problem and solution are by projecting their insecurities.
wow how many more insults can you fit in a single post
you sure do come across as a stable person people should listen to, instead of the other anon lol
Yes, I can see why other teenagers would be drawn to the original anons post. You should grow out of things like that, though.
Definitely don't want to "grow up" to be like you lol you're so bitter and hateful
why does your brain jump to transexual fantasies that is not healthy behaviour
It's pretty much Florida Republican distraction from Trumpworld criminal activities so they confabulate some culturewar enemy out of nothing. "troony" "grooming" "blackrock", this shit only makes sense to ideology zombies, but Ganker is the toilet board for all other ideologies to take a shit in, and normal people with self respect dislike being shit on and therefore leave Ganker. So it becomes the ideology shit sewer and the discussion evolves into nonstop sewer-shit-eaters shitting and eating shit constantly while holdouts desperately try to talk about actual Gankerideogames in between being shit on by ideology shitters.
you sure do have scat on the brain
True enough.
Also true.
Based, the lemmings will forget their bread and circuses as soon as the new one is laid out in front of them
Yeah
I'd gladly asphyxiate in a submarine with you Gankerro.
>it was real in my mind
I'm playing Cyberpunk 2077 now. Works well, no bugs. But damn is it.. empty? Shallow? Devoid of meaty gameplay? Makes me wanna go play a superior Cyberpunk game like Deus Ex. Might as well do that. Most of this game is looking and listening to people talk about techno jargon. It's just kind of boring. They completely failed to add an interesting story hook with good writing and the gameplay to back it up.
I hope to God almighty you're not talking about nu-deus ex
Why would I?
they're superior so why not? HR alone is 10/10
hi serf
Hey brother, wishing you the best.
Friendly reminder that Blood and Wine won best RPG in 2016
Buying starfield. Might pirate cp77 dlc at some point maybe
>giving money to pajeetsoft
good morning sir
play with goypass if u like it buy it
Is "the big patch" going to come out before PL or on its release? I planned on starting a new run and trying to figure out when I can start.
The "big patch" is PL.
If I already have Cyberpunk, will I have to buy this again?
No, anon. Your single copy of Cyberpunk 2077 entitles you to all video games both past and future. Have fun, lad!!
Its an expansion, the up coming patch fixes are free but phantom liberty will be 30 bucks
>anons having fun with the game
>Ganker NOOOO YOU MUST BE BITTER AND SCRUTINIZZES EVERY LITTLE THING!
I feel like you turn into two very different people if you hang out here long enough.
this "patch" not even out yet, cdpr junior
It's more that Ganker is full of thirdies who can't play modern games
if i can't have fun no one can
If you play this game, remember, you're everything that's wrong with the industry in 2023. We'll keep get hyped up, sloppy shitty games that under deliver because you cucks accept lies and shitty games while bolstering them up
How and why?
>troony dlc for a shit game
no thanks
>troony post
No thanks.
Probably not but this year 2023 will be the best of this decade on games
I'm more hyped about the 1.7 overhaul then I am about Phantom Liberty at this point, are they gonna do another stream about it soon or what's going on
PL is unironically almost everything I wanted them to do, so I'm pretty hype.
Legitimately the only other thing I'd like but I know it won't happen is if they made each life-path it's own parallel story alongside the main story. That to me would take the game that I consider an 8/10, bugs and all, to a 9.5, easily. Let my corpo character be a corpo, have fancy meetings and perks/items and shit. That would easily make me replay the game 3 more times, and I've already played through it twice.
you realize that no matter what, V turns Solo right
I don't understand this "LET MY V HOLD MEETINGS IN FANCY SKYSCRAPERS" shit because the whole point of the Corpo intro is V getting exiled from that life forever
The entire story after the life path part is written for a street kid. Getting exited for a kiroshi? GTFO . Jacky goes from a dude with sway over the fricking cartels to a rookie who gets exited that he gets to work with Black person the Fat and hypes Afterlife like he's never been there before. Might as well have not given us the option to choose.
Streetkid is a background, not a class. V always turns Solo, that's the point of hooking up with Jackie and learning the ropes with him. Same shit happens in the Nomad path too, V leaves his clan which effectively ends his time as a Nomad (the class) and Jackie helps him turn Solo.
remember when they promised you'd be able to choose your class
I don't know why people think this, the street kid life path is by far the worst and makes no sense.
And the entire story is written for it.
>Jackie was always a low-level merc
Not in the Corpo path.
Jackie still kind of is, Corpo V just uses him for a lot of higher level stuff because they were old friends.
Jackie doesn't speak like a low lever merc at Lizzies. He speaks like an experienced high level merc. Contrasted to the rest of the prologue where he takes a nosidive and and speaks like the street kid path and nomad path.
Low-level doesn't mean inexperienced. He can know what he's talking about and still be low on the pecking order. And in all of the prologues he's clearly a working merc that's been at it for at least a little while.
>And the entire story is written for it.
I don't agree with this at all. The story feels the most incompatible with Street Kid because again it makes no sense. Personally I think the corpo background works best for the story. Because in that one at least you have a pre-existing relationship with Jackie and you have a reason to be an outsider on all the street-level stuff in NIght City. Plus it gives a clear reason as to why Dex would be interested in your crew, because there's any number of good mercs but being ex-Arasaka makes you relevant to the job. I also like the friction it makes with Johnny.
Also Jackie is always a low-level merc, in corpo he's just a low-level merc that you've hired for jobs in the past.
What? Jackie was always a low-level merc. The valentinos are literally just street thugs.
Dexter is one of the most powerful fixers in the city. Dunno about Afterlife, but makes sense that he wouldn't really go there because none of the people he knows are on the high-end of the merc sphere.
I hope they let you play out the Jackie montage and let the player get a bit more attached to him. That was one of my main disappointments.
>one of the most powerful fixers in the city
>is an absolute moron
He WAS one of the most powerful fixers, he's a washed up has-been during the events of the game. The gig is supposed to be his comeback as well. And to be fair, it only goes to shit by complete coincidence.
Yeah, it's implied that a few years before 2077, he had a major job of his go so sideways it's a main reason why Pacifica is so fricked these days. He tried to play it cool and wait for his chance at a big comeback but it blows up in the worst way.
Isn't that what the story of the DLC is going to be about? Whatever shit that happened in Pacifica that turned it into basically a wasteland?
Maybe, it's mostly set in the real bad parts of Pacifica the locals call Dogtown (I think it's refereed to as "the Combat Zone" a few times in game already). You can actually see parts of it now, it's just all fenced off and shit.
Pretty sure Dogtown is that big island west of Night City currently inaccessible by a connecting bridge and not Pacifica.
>complete coincidence
>bubbles doesn't realize the conflict with being hired by the person to steal something that is doing most of the informational legwork and taking no proactive position himself
this guy couldn't run a hotdog stand and you're meant to believe he's somebody
Nothing V does in the story would be mutually exclusive with them being a corpo. Nobody really recognizes them at any point. I really don't see what the problem would be, that it's thematically different, that I can't sit in my ivory tower and get my minions to do my work for me? Sure, but you have to make concessions in any sort of story where the player gets narrative control.
It's not like it would be hard to implement a bodyguard system that would spawn dudes in suits in combat, or a Trauma Team pickup (because naturally, Arasaka employment comes with Trauma team platinum) that lets you fast travel on demand or comes to save you when you're near death.
PL already comes with new endings so I don't see how adding a couple of new endings to each of the life paths would be unrealistic and show V not being just another merc.
except that you keep forgetting IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR CORPO V TO HAVE ACCESS TO BODY GUARDS AND FANCY ARMORED CARS AND SHIT, BECAUSE CORPO V GOT BURNED SO BADLY THEY ARE TOTALLY DONE WITH THAT WORLD
...which is why adding separate storylines to each lifepath, like I'm suggesting, could change that and make it make sense? After being fired by Arasaka, maybe you get a message from an old contact in there, who offers you a chance to get back in and destroy it from within. Or it could be a completely different corp, a fresh start. There's a million different ways it could make sense, anon.
and why would this V get mixed up with Dex, and later people like Judy, Rogue, River etc?
River guilt tripped you into his whole bullshit life
You're contradicting yourself because you previously said that nothing about the story would be a problem with V was an active corpo but now you're asking for a completely different video game.
>Jefferson Peralez
>Maiko Maeda
No, they hinted at corporate affiliations while giving us nothing in the end. Sandra Dorsett should have been a key entry into Biotechnica corporate wars.
the whole point of the Peralez quest was to show you that V is potentially getting mixed up with shit so far over his head, that it's untouchable by a lowly Street Merc, no matter how effective they are.
This has always bothered me, I understand that a corpo is almost always objectively evil, but the insistence that you either can't play as one or that you always end up in shit if you do is frankly childish.
This thread is extremely ironic it has to be oh good lord
isn't this garbage standalone? and doesn't it have even more shitty actors? how worthless. they completely misunderstood what made the first one fail.
I heard the mechanics and systems it will introduce will revamp the base game as well. Is this the case as far as we know and if so should I wait until the DLC drops to continue my first play through?
I'd probably wait. It's not long now, and yes, they're revamping most of the game's systems, and the DLC supposedly play during the main story too.
>Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty GOTY
>Releases same month as Starfield
>Too much bad blood because of CP2077
>Too little, too late
>30€ for 20h DLC
Kek, not even close. They'll maybe get an award for visuals.
>im poor
There there. Lots of people are. Thats why youre allowed to kys.
>im poor
hardly, im just not stupid enough to give my money for a broken toy missing most of its parts.
tbh it releasing on the same month as starfield is a good thing, because Bethesda games in the past few years have all been complete shitshows, this one will be the biggest yet
I might buy it at 50% off
Any game with level / loot scaling is aids and destroys engagement. Legendary weapons become less effective than random pistols, enemy organisations that are meant to be the toughest ever are less dangerous than a random guy later on. moronic
Is this expansion introducing new romances? The girls in the base game are kinds meh
Probably not. You'll be lucky if we get new Dogtown exclusive prostitutes
What about a new class?
No. Just new weapons and cyberware but we don't know how much they'll change up the gameplay. Apprently there is an airdash cyberware exclusive to Dogtown but idk I don't see that changing up shit too much.
they already said they're remaking all the perk trees and adding new ones, the game doesn't have a 'class', just lifepaths which are basically just intros/special dialogue, don't think they'll add anything to those, sadly
>remaking all the perk trees
yes
>adding new ones
not sure about that
>the game doesn't have a 'class'
Yes it does. if you go balls deep into the hacker skill tree then your character is a Netrunner. if you go deep into the guns skill tree you're a Solo. and within Solo you can also go deeper into the melee weapon skills. That's about it for the classes.
they mentioned at least a skill tree being related to the relic being completely new, I don't remember if it was just one or many.
Relic Tree is it's own thing that opens up once you start Phantom Liberty, kinda like the Mutations from Blood and Wine.
It uses a different resource called Relic Points, and while there aren't a lot of options for these perks they all tend to be powerful and game changing, and are all tied to cyberware options in some way.
Some examples I've found online was;
>Monowire:
-gains the ability to silently decapitate someone if you are in stealth
-gains the ability to apply certain quickhacks on hit while in combat
>Gorilla Arms
-Guarding now blocks all bullet damage
-Gets a dashing charge attack that knock backs targets
-Gets an AoE Stomp that stuns targets close to V
>SmartLink
-Gains the ability to be temporally overclocked, which can get multiple bonuses such as improved headshot lock-ons, multiple target lock-ons, improved rate of fire, etc.
>SmartLink
Smart guns were cool but some enemies would have cyberware that would prevent your smartguns from locking onto them, wish they'd add a cyberware to prevent their prevention
It's literally in the game, it's called Cyberware Malfunction and only costs 6 base RAM.
There is also the nano machines tattoo you get from the granny fixer. I think it works in a similar manner.
That's a hacking thing, right? I don't want to actively have to stop the gun fight just to hack their cyberware so that I can continue the gunfight. It's much better to just stop using Smart guns entirely, the other guns don't have this bullshit.
that probably stops THEIR smart guns from locking on to YOU, right? I just want something that lets me use smart guns without having to check if I can or can't use them in a fight.
It is generally Tiger Claws that have the smart guns disruption tech. I usually carry 1 ranged weapon of each type and use cybernetics for mele.
that old asian chick fixer gives you tattoo that is a cyberware doing that. pay attention
Huh, you're right. Not sure if this was stated in-game.
What the frick is the point of this shit then? The base story was alright dogshit
it's insane innit? addresses nothing that brought the base game down, just does the same thing.
the story was great moron, sorry you were filtered
A shiny new set of keys to jingle in front of the brainlets that defend cyberpunk just because they released a half decent anime and fixed a tenth of the bugs it had on release
Whats wrong with the story?
idk but I bet it's bad
>cp2077 base story was alright dogshit
>tranime poster
>t. westslop eater
Kek
>Johnny is a melodramatic, selfish peice of shit that constantly interrupts with some half-baked pop-punk drivel
>Can choose whether I live in cyberspace forever, or die from cyber parkinsons imminently
>Game acts like I'm giving up my life for Johnny
What the frick. I hope the expansion has a new ending where I can strap myself into an eternal torture chamber before handing over my body.
You can just kill him, anon.
The legendary solo ending is like that.
I think I did that ending. You go to Araska solo? It still just gave me the choice of who goes with Alt
is it just me, or does the female MC on the covers look uglier and uglier on every new promo art?
It still boggles my mind that they changed the old one simply because gamers found her pretty. What kind of sorry and jealous person you need to be to do something petty like this?
What did the 5.6gb update do?
Is there anyone on the low level level who has understood that oldgays who survive and become rich and powerful keep selling this "live fast and die young" attitude so that they can burn young people out in order to keep up their status quo? Honestly that's one of the bleakest parts of the setting for me.
Sorry I'm not well versed in Cyberpunk. The closest I ever got to the game prior to playing 2077 was looking at my dad's old Rockerboy character sheet for 2020.
Small brain is buying into live fast die young.
Midwit is using that motto to trick people
Big brain is living by the motto
It's romantic and they DID need a lot of young people to die in wars in the past. Guess old habits die hard. But now they also need people to start dying and not reproducing, there's just too much of us and the elites are ready to roll out stuff in the next decades that will slash billions of jobs.
>enter Cyberpunk thread
>it's another episode of a Cybershill vs Disingenuous shitter
This is so tiring.
Anyway, Blue moon is cute.
Panam is cuter. Check mate autist!
She's so not, but she's still best girl.
>Panam is not cute
You're mad.
She's cute, just not as cute as Blue Moon. Concept art Panam was cuter.
>Meredith Stout got sidelined in favor of this walking sewage container
Why do you like this sand golem. Tell me!
I like both Meredith and Panam. Seethe and cope!
>implying this desperate soulless b***h doesn't canonically get thrown in the canal with cement shoes
>still has blue, green, purple and orange guns
why is this fricking system still in place and whjy are slavs still forcing this looter shooter shit
like complaining about seeing the exact same thing in diablo for decades. simply a quick way to tell whats good and not at a glance without having to cycle between two pieces of equipment and compare in case it doesnt have a built in compare function... which it does
guns shouldn't have stats and effects tied to them you slavic nutcase
Who else here plays a shemale V?
Hell no. Male V is the only acceptable choice.
The game is already out. If you want to see gameplay just install and play, moron.
I mean allegedly they're reworking a lot of shit for the DLC so that's technically not true.
Cyberpunk pre and post launch are going to be two different games.
The game as it currently is already plays radically different from at launch. And that is truly for the better. Sad they never added wall climbing with mantis claws in...
Is this game playable or is it still a bug filled mess?
>still cant shoot out of cars
Lol. No thanks
not until 1.7
>not until 1.7
When is 1.7!?
>it takes them 3 years to be able to shoot inside a car.
That's kinda sad when you think about it.
i only will play if they add big breasts in the breasts slide
it's a shame a game about body modification and all women is plain like Plank
Is he in?
>expecting the shitposters here to know who that even is
>cant play Cyberpunk until the new patch is supposed to come out and change everything
When it comes out I'll be too busy with other games.
Whole lot of shit coming out in September
>dickgirls
>traps (reverse traps are big gay)
>futa
>shemales
Good
>trannies
Bad
It's literally this simple.
All those things you listed are trannies
>case in point
This boy fell for israeli tricks and lies. I will never forgive them for this.
Lies permeate if left unchecked. These very same morons consider men with veganas OK to frick.
Sounds like a failure to provide a service that stops morons from speaking aloud, like on social media.
>Jews are anti troony and pro tomboy
מבוסס
Futa and dickgirls are a romanization of real life hermaphrodites which are pretty rare and at birth the doc usually gives the parents a choice of if they want it to be a boy or a girl with a recommendation depending on which is more prominent. Once the choice is made a snip here or a sew their and boom you have a gal or a dude.
But for the vast majority either of their equipment is going to work that well or not at all. If they anything they are the real They/Thems but nobody in their right mind is going to come out and say they were born with a dick/vag
Ladyboys aren’t even as disgusting or delusional as troons, at least they accept what they are. homosexuals.
https://youtube.com/shorts/eHxVvqzEtmc?feature=share
>Cyberpunk 2077:Phantom Liberty
>Baldur's Gate 3
>System Shock remake
>Path of Exile 2
>Rogue Trader?(is it coming this year or next?)
2023 look really good ngl.
I don't know what exactly is going on I won't read the word vomit above to understand it but trannies are mentally ill homosexuals who got tricked by the israelite to mutilate themselves. Which would be completely fine if they weren't shoved in everyone's faces. Because of the troony ilk, an entire generation was turned against futa, traps and shemales. The morons lump all of this under one banner, the troony banner. And it infuriates me.
moronic Black folk are very insistent that futa, traps, and shemales are trannies. No they're not. They're stereotypes for porn and porn only.
Regardless of the context, if you look at dicks in porn then you're definitely a homo.
>another case in point.
I hope one day you can stop living in denial and be free with who you truly are.
>an entire generation was turned against futa
Dick girl porn is more popular than its ever been dude, and it correlates directly with the rise of transexual orientation.
troony game.
TRUE FACT:
had Cyberpunk been originally released at its current "mostly fixed" state, it still would have been a huge disappointment
All facts are true, that's why they are facts and not opinions
the only people saying it looks good are either paid or litterly in the game, every normal person knows the game is beyond saving and more importantly CDPR does not deserve gamers support.
How should I build my attribute points if I want to go around as like a ninja cowboy
I never invested in any stealth attributes but invested in melee and speed meant I could swing a katana and leap over structures for fun.
When you invest in COOL you can also get COLD BLOOD perks. It's not just Stealth.
Depends but you'll need REFLEXES and COOL. This is what you need for sneaking, katana and revolvers.
What is it about other developers that just keeps them 10 generations behind Rockstar when it comes to open worlds and tech in general?
Cyberpunk and Witcher 3 got mogged by GTA IV, a 360 release game, never mind RDR2. What is it that Rockstar gets that other devs don't
Rockstar games are trash. What are you smoking?
and yet they outsellf/outreviewer every other open world game.
Keep coping, Rockstar are considered the kings of open world for a reason
>outsellf/outreviewer
LMAO troon is this how you decide if a game is good? Go have a nice day and take Rockstar's garbage games with you.
Rockstar died with Arthur Morgan, they haven’t released a single piece of good content since then. Enjoy playing GTAVI starring the Moodyman and Sessanta, the only original characters they have made since the real team left after RDR2. Every other update has just been pillaging characters from Single Player as nostalgia bait, bundled with a cheap Nexus mod adding 4 new drip feed cars.
They even removed content from the “Upgraded” Next Gen version.
https://www.gtaboom.com/rockstar-removed-transphobic-content-gta-5-online/
thats because they realized just how many shekels they could get out of 'online services' like gta online
so they only do that now, pushing shark cards and shit like that
Take Two’s CEO Zelnick Strauss was the inspiration for Leopold Strauss. He was the catalyst for the end of everything.
I want to know how much "2.0" patch version stuff will affect the base game. The base game always deserved a "Enhanced Edition" overhaul to many systems and it sucks it will take waiting until a fricking expansion for that to happen because it needed its own focus and shouldn't be diluted by over focus on Expansion stuff. The expansion itself should be good too but still the base game needed to be fixed in many ways. Life paths needed to be way more expansive prior to the main story and their effects afterward. Romances needed to have more options than 1 straight, one gay for each sex. (it was obvious Meredith was almost a true romance but they fricked off with that) and Corpo V could have had different experiences dating Panem vs Nomad V etc. There's a lot of other stuff too
Of course one of the big things that worries me about Phantom Liberty is does it take place
>After the end of the main story, provided that V doesn't choose the 1 "very bad ending
This would be the right decision. People want to know what happens to V and/or Johnny after the base game and a resolution to their...situations
>during the last 1/3rd of the base game as a side story
This, unless they COMPLETELY overhaul the base game and its last third and especially ending, will be a fricking disaster and take all the gravitas away from both PL and the base game's ending. If all you do still ends up with having to go on the same final mission in the base game, then what the frick is the point? Also it means that there's no answer to what happens to V and/or Johnny after the base game's ending. This would be garbage and a waste of all the development time.
ESG of the year
Frick off, commie.
Cybertroonypunk is still shit after 3 years of patches.
i feel used for buying their game full priced to be treated as a beta tester, and need to pay another 50$ to get the features THEY PROMISED were in the game at launch. i hate this fricking company so much.
It's $30 not $50. Are you paying in canadian dollars or something?
yes
Do you think there will be a Lucy cameo?
Only if we get to kill her.
hopefully not, that looks fricking awful and it would feel very forced
>really enjoyed the anime
>tried the game
>quit after an hour because it's nothing like the anime and was boring as shit
who greenlit this?
the anime or the game?
Work on your reading comprehension.
Inbred. The anime came after the game. The anime was made by the people who did Kill La Kill and Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt.
The game is a million times more interesting than the shitty romance story the anime portrays. Glad the game filtered you trannimen
The shit out of my ass is more interesting than this game.
I bet it is. Who knows what a homosexual like you have stuffed up his ass.
Other than your mother's tongue not much.
CD Projekt ESG
They are also remaking the first Witcher for “modern audiences”
>Lucy cameo
Lucy killed herself on the Moon.
Good riddance. Rebecca deserved a chance to be happy.
Lucy dead on the moon!
Holy shit what is this horrorfying thread. Theres people here unironically talking like Phantom Liberty is going to make a piece of shit into a great game
Have you morons learned NOTHING? Jesus
Driving is still atrocious, graphics still grainy as frick on native resolution without stupid AI up-scaling.
i just want to continue my romance with Kerry
I did all love routes. The kerry route is goat and i dont give.a frick
Yes the lesbo ending is cute and shes hot but kerry genuinly cares for u at the end and is there and doesnt leave like a punk itch
Kerry does leave you if you go the Nomad Route though. He has too many ties to NC to cut and run, and it's the same deal with River.
On the other hand, both girls will always end up leaving NC so if you go the Nomad Route they stick with V.
I can't get into this game. There's no mechanical complexity to explore aside from numerical and statistical advantages...
I'm post the botched Heist and have little to no will to explore the city to search garbage cans for grenades and stims.
Does it get better? am I missing something? I want to unlock new movement abilities, combat moves like a devil may cry game.
Then look for ripperdocs and get a kereznikov and some reinforced tendons for double jumping. Get perks from the shotgun, or pistol tree that increase your movement speed or allow you to shoot mid dodge and dodge while aiming.
anything else? melee combat being on par with oblivion is also cringe
if you want melee combat to be better put points into melee combat skills. that simple. not like oblivion where skill goes up just by using.
>3 hit combo
>power attack
what do perks even do aside from speed up and damage up?
you can also attack while sliding.
There is a perk that makes your blunt weapons stagger enemies more.
Blade skills are focused on DPS and Heal on Kill, mostly because blades already get so much more freedom compared to guns during movement as a baseline. Different types of guns get different perks letting you still make effective use of them while dodging, jumping, behind cover etc. Since blades dont have those limitations there isnt much impetus for blades to gain additional movement skills.
The relative simplicity of melee would be fine if certain enemies just had enough staying power and the ability to actually react to your moves.
I just want them to block and counter. I feel like I'm not asking for much.
Youre not. The system for how NPC Sandevistans work is also really lame, since they just dash towards you. It should impose the slowness on the player until its over or they activate their own Sandi. That would be way more scary then the goofy stuff they do now.
Melee combat is very overpowered and NPCs are very poor at reacting to it even when theyre using their own melee. One of the major shortcomings of this game is that if pretty much entirely lacks any enemies capable of putting up a real challenge the moment any half decent build gets going, outside of niche situations where you get swarmed in an awkward spot.
I wouldnt say its on par with oblivion because feedback, dismemberment and movement are much better, but the game desperately needs more individual enemies capable of being a threat or more dangerous situations. Game should have used much more extensive use of traps.
This board is spilling withg r8ddit NPCs.
>withg r8ddit
R*dditards are truly fricking pathetic and equally baffling. They are the only group of people I’ve ever seen that actually simp for products like they are celebrities and thots. They are like those Disney Adults but for every consumer good imaginable. They make everything they like their entire identity, I’m surprised they haven’t started using Brand names as pronouns. They are the type of people that would call Miles Morales their ‘spirit animal’.
What’s wrong with having a spider monkey as a spirit animal?
Did they say they're changing anything about crafting? Iconics had fun quirks but not being able to bring them into late game without putting 18 levels into crafting was very annoying.
This game stole 60 bucks from me and lied.
Then they told me they would fix it and add expansions (plural) for free
Now they want my money for expansions and also have not fixed the base game.
>r3ddit spacing
(you)
Keep
Crying
Lying
ass
Black person
I'm glad your country is in ashes.
>your country is in ashes
Russian has yet to attack Poland, redditor.
>USA education
>Netrunners can only reveal your location and cause low level Overheat
>Fan Mod that gives Netrunners a dozen other Quickhacks to use on you.
>Creator says "Yeah this shit was already in the game files, I just changed one variable"
What the frick was CDPR even doing here man?
Allegedly, Adam Badowski completely fricked up the development of this game and made several talented people leave the company.
A lot of the alleged features from the 1.7 update just seem to be taken from popular mods. Outside of the Skill Tree rework I don't think anything show is actually all that original. It's nice to have as base game stuff but still it's not definitely not as groundbreaking as some people make it seem.
Though I am a fan of all the Reflex stuff consolidating into one tree instead of having to sprinkle your perk points over three different kinds of weapons for the sake of having some gameplay variety.
>cyberpozz
>Phantom Liberty is supposed to be inspired by Spy Movies and Espionage
>No cute Bond Girls for V to bang after saving Night City
LAME
Songbird is probably the girl that is supposed to fill that role but she ugly
Nah the developer tweeted a post saying Phantom Liberty wasn't going to focus on any sort of romantic relationships. Personally I could dig songbird. She's not prime asian, but she aint that bad. She's kinda like that one chick from Altered Carbon whose eyes look like someone was messing around in a character creator.
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