Cynical Roleplaying in Revolutionary Times

What if you cast the founding fathers in the most ignoble, barbaric light possible? Even embellished a little and added some occult shit? You cast the british as agents of civility in doomed war of attrition against a barbaric and backwater colony that practices indentured servitude and slavery.

What is the meanest, most vicious portrayal of the founding fathers that could evoke alienation towards them and verisimilitude in fighting them?

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sophisticated botpost.

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Then you'd have a piece of fiction.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >british as agents of civility
    ROIGHT OLD CHAP, LET'S GET BACK TO SENDING OUR PEASANTS TO DIE WHILE WE DRINK TEA AND COVER UP SEX CRIMES.
    Civility is a lie purported by the least civil people.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      you can always take a shot at the british, how many times do you get to take a shot at the founding fathers?

      One chance, honest to god, to lay the myth the rest once and for all.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        The problem with taking a shot at the founding fathers is that we have records of their various letters and conversations.
        For the most part they were legitimately good people, with the most flak one could level at them being possibly about how they handled the less dangerous injun groups and the radicals in New England.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >For the most part they were legitimately good people
          they really weren't.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            They were though.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              no.
              no,
              they really weren't.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                prove it

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                This guy gets it. The founding fathers were essentially the Bezos, Gates and Musk of their day, they only wanted out from the thumb of the British so they could have a free hand to subjugate the poors and brown people as they saw fit.

                Don't get it twisted, the British were frickers too. You don't need to hold one up as virtuous in order to tear the other down.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                That seems unlikely, given how heavily they risked their own necks in the rebellion and later how hard they worked to hammer out a functional constitution. The men were not perfect, and they argued a lot, but they certainly were principled.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Their primary principle being "I want power".

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >desire power
                >set up a democracy in which said power was inherently fleeting
                >actively improve said democracy when the first version proved unworkable
                >enshrined rights of the citizens against government tyranny
                >guy who led the armed rebellion voluntarily stepped down frim the most powerful office of the land because he just wanted to farm
                Sure doesn't look like they were interested in setting up their own little fiefdoms.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >What if you cast the founding fathers in the most ignoble, barbaric light possible?
                You mean like if they were exploiting slave labor to enrich themselves even as they acknowledged it as a barbaric evil practice?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Even the otherwise principled are capable of hypocrisy and blind spots.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                they had slaves, John

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                See

                Even the otherwise principled are capable of hypocrisy and blind spots.

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Look up freemasonry then you'll understand.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      quiet you fool!
      they'll hear you!

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Americans living in mud huts burning shit for warmth

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      american dentists having a brisk trade in loose teeth
      americans scuttling french ships by parking them too close to shore
      americans staring down the barrel of a loaded musket after a misfire

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        american plantation owners shooting returned indentures to avoid having to pay them a wage
        indenture holders using corrupt courts to add fees and fines so they can never buy out their contract
        literally burning pregnant teenagers at the stake to avoid suspicion of adultery by religious elders

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not a single person can explain why this is a bad thing.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    They were all masons who worshipped a Great Old One known as the Architect. All the stuff about freedom and self determination was a cover to found a country where they could carry out a 300 year long ritual to summon the Architect into our material plane

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It like if an entire fricking country was a Texas chain gang. Just a bunch of mean, pissed off, surly people living in bumfricked no where with a dude who owns a ranch and has like 5 guys with guns telling you to , "Get to work, BOY"

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      And they are sitting there b***hing about how expensive their tea is while sitting on the porch dressed like total homosexuals, wearing god damn wigs and high heels and a hosiery like a complete fricking homosexual in 90 degree georgia weather.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        And fricking Jefferson is sticking his wiener in all his slaves, fricking them like hes a god damn southern baptist, having his own kids born into slavery..

        Goerge Washington, fricking psychotic, kills the british in their sleep on fricking christmas.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ben Franklin, practicing fricking witchcraft out in the middle of fricking no where with his redneck mad scientist experiments.

          NONE of these frickers go to church, your pretty at least one of them sucks dick for a living, they got teeth made out of fricking treebark entire fricking teeth made out of lead, foaming at the mouth pure bred lunatic inbred psychopathic motherfrickers, and your thinking, holy shit these guys have the fricking AUDACITY to say before god that all men are created equal and that they are some sort of literary, legal and philosophical genuis savants?

          These drooling moronic imbeciles who are borderline illiterate and can hardly write their own name or count past their fingers are telling you they are the avant guarde fashionista's of parisian culture, and to the french, THEY KIND OF WERE

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            The founding fathers were to the french the beavis and butthead nueve riche trailer trash soaps cultured people absorb with guilty pleasure. Fricking revolutionary americans were like the cardashians to the decadent french, they supported us just to fuel our antics.

            Our total lack of SHAME led the french to mockingly adopt our attitudes, until they were ASSIMILATED into our culture and became unable to discern irony from reality.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      And they are sitting there b***hing about how expensive their tea is while sitting on the porch dressed like total homosexuals, wearing god damn wigs and high heels and a hosiery like a complete fricking homosexual in 90 degree georgia weather.

      And fricking Jefferson is sticking his wiener in all his slaves, fricking them like hes a god damn southern baptist, having his own kids born into slavery..

      Goerge Washington, fricking psychotic, kills the british in their sleep on fricking christmas.

      Ben Franklin, practicing fricking witchcraft out in the middle of fricking no where with his redneck mad scientist experiments.

      NONE of these frickers go to church, your pretty at least one of them sucks dick for a living, they got teeth made out of fricking treebark entire fricking teeth made out of lead, foaming at the mouth pure bred lunatic inbred psychopathic motherfrickers, and your thinking, holy shit these guys have the fricking AUDACITY to say before god that all men are created equal and that they are some sort of literary, legal and philosophical genuis savants?

      These drooling moronic imbeciles who are borderline illiterate and can hardly write their own name or count past their fingers are telling you they are the avant guarde fashionista's of parisian culture, and to the french, THEY KIND OF WERE

      The founding fathers were to the french the beavis and butthead nueve riche trailer trash soaps cultured people absorb with guilty pleasure. Fricking revolutionary americans were like the cardashians to the decadent french, they supported us just to fuel our antics.

      Our total lack of SHAME led the french to mockingly adopt our attitudes, until they were ASSIMILATED into our culture and became unable to discern irony from reality.

      >Behold, I present to you the Anti-American, a creature born of the sins of the West

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Behold, I present to you the thin-skinned Burgerlardifatistani, a creature incapable of tolerating even the tiniest smidgeon of fun being poked not even at his own expense, but at the expense of people dead for 200 years with whom he has no real connection whatsoever because MURICA. And also they're a homosexual.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          the anti-american recoils

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I wasn't making fun of him, dumbass if anything, I agreed with him about the founding freemasons

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Make them israelites like you

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder what was the prompt given to the bot to spew this back

  10. 7 months ago
    Sage

    Take it to /bant/, Nigel.

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've had the idea of using Abraham Lincoln as a jumping off point for a BBEG at some point

    >has gigantism, sickly tall and gaited face
    >a silver tongued lawyer and master manipulator
    >will imprison literally anyone in his nation who speaks against him
    >son died young and is actively studying the occult with his wife to resurrect him
    >autistically focused on war above literally everything else because he likes the control

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Abraham Lincoln as the emperor of America according to a prophesy from the play "The King in Yellow"
      Turns out, John Wilkes Boothe was just a CoC PC who managed to off the BBEG right before he could use the deaths of the CIvil War to call forth his dread master

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just use existing questionable examples of historical revisionism and old British copium.

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What if you cast the founding fathers in the most ignoble, barbaric light possible?
    You mean like if they were exploiting slave labor to enrich themselves even as they acknowledged it as a barbaric evil practice?

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You'd be approaching the truth.

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