Pretty sure it's CGI in the beginning, but it cuts to a large physical puppet when it passes the camera and rolls down the hill. Zero chance it's an animatronic, not even the best of them can move like that.
It's from a Russian ad by the way. Here it is in better quality:
i hope his dad laughed his ass off. i would have, for sure. then i would have played this clip on his confirmation and his marriage. it's just too good not to.
I mean, it's a handheld. At a certain point, it can't GET more powerful. There's only so much computational power you can place in a device that size before it starts becoming impractical. Honestly, the SteamDeck is a little beyond that point thanks to its embarrassing battery life.
Eh, the worst I've seen was 2 hours with Witcher 3 at Golden 40. That's comparable to a Switch running a first-party title. Running emulators, I can squeeze 4-5 hours out of it at 100%. Which I feel is fair.
My 3 year old gaming smartphone is faster than a PS4 and smaller than a Switch. The Switch 2 being this underpowered is not an acceptable excuse. What you are saying is just pure tendie copium.
Only if you're talking about the CPU. The GPU portion is still heavily limited by the low memory bandwidth. Nvidia knows this which is why all of their mobile chips after the tegra series keep raising the bandwidth by at least 30-40 percent.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>GPU portion is still heavily limited by the low memory bandwidth.
The gpu portion is also weaker. That guy doesn't know what he is talking about, the tflops in the snapdragon 865 is 1.2, that is lower than and xbox one and a lot lower than the ps4. The gpu is weak.
Can't belive the switch 2 will be as powerful as a steam deck. Bit upsetting but eh, only the Rog Ally is as powerful as a ps4, I'm guessing the price for a mobile device would just be too high not tomention battery issues.
Lol frick off. I have an 865 phone, you are a tech illiterate, even the meme deck isn't as fast as a ps4 with its 1.6 tflops, only the rog ally is and it is only slightly faster ib real gaming.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Most anons here are too moronic to understand battery life and price of manufacturing.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Can't belive the switch 2 will be as powerful as a steam deck.
In portable mode. In docked it will run 2x faster. Plus it will have DLSS
>How much did you spend for this elite smartphone?
I paid £419($500-600) for my s20fe 3 years ago. And the dude is lying when he says it s faster than a ps4, it is only slightly faster than a switch.
That makes sense. Granted, the Switch is pretty old now, and Nintendo hasn't wanted to compete with cutting edge console wars like Sony and Xbox, but I'd have a hard time believing they wouldn't update sooner if something that much more powerful were available to competitive pricing.
thats the "elephant in the room"
Switch (or 2) Needs to strike a balance between
Several aspects
Specs
Form Factor
Price
Battery
Out of this we know Price should not op 350$
Form Factor, being generous as frick, Steam Deck
Battery life shall be 8 hours at least.
Then the only compromise part left would be specs.
That being said, Nintendo really has no need to catch up soon
Since Last gen Devs already the Wall. Any new amount of power is basically wortheless >Beyond 4K and 60fps is a meme and most people dont have display that support that >Graphics are pretty much as good as they can get without going full bankrupt (which many already practically are) >Game devs are creatively bankrupt so all the extra power wont translated to be QoL or Gameplay experience.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Beyond 4K and 60fps is a meme and most people dont have display that support that
This is pretty true. I can see higher fps being useful in first-person shooters, but for non fps games, 60 frames per second is fine.
1. Kotick said gen 8, which goes from 1.3TF Xbox One to 6TF Xbox One X.
2. Kotick also said he doesn't know the actual specs
3. The email which included the discussed conversation was from 2019
4. We've also known the specs since the Nvidia hack in 2020: >T239 chip has 1536 Ampere Cuda cores, 48 Tensor cores, 12 RT cores and 128bit memory bus >T239 uses a single cluster, 8 core CPU (likely pointing to Cortex-A78C)
At current Switch clocks that results in 1.4TF portable and 2.3TF docked + DLSS on top of all that.
6x stronger GPU than Switch and CPU that runs circles around PS4's Jaguar
That homosexual you quoted knows jack shit either. He's just moronic enough to believe the nvidia hack when it had nothing to back it up ever since. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if nintendo did further changes to their hardware before or since that hack.
What, unless another hack happens it won't be true? > I wouldn't be surprised if nintendo did further changes4gyjg
If they made changes it wouldn't be called T239 anymore. And T239 is ready for production since late last year with physical chips being tested. Why do that when nothing using it cropped up?
1. Ready for production isn't the same as being in production
2. Console manufacturers constantly adjust up the hardware all the way up to 6 months before production. See sony's extra 4 gigs of GDDR5 memory right before the official PS4 announcement and the delayed manufacturing of series X consoles all because the piece that handles raytracing took longer than expected to be fully mapped out before giving the go ahead
3. T239 is only a codename, it can be reused for something completely different. I can make a pure RISC hardware called nighthawk, cancel that and reuse the codename for an x86 system.
Teel deer: stop being a fricking Black person and think.
I've unironically made posts about that for the last month. There is nothing Devs can't accomplish in ps4 hardware, they're lying through their teeth claiming we need to upgrade / it's just graphicshomosexualry.
Fighterz, Sekiro DMC5, RE4 remake, etc.. whatever you liked was made on the PS4. What the frick does the next gen offer?
More processing power to make giant realistic worlds with barely any gameplay like FF16?
NOT to mention Nintendo makes 2d games. The PS4 can already create any 2d game imaginable if Fighterz and Guilty Gear are any indication, but only Nintendo cares enough to make 2d games nowadays.
>There is nothing Devs can't accomplish in ps4 hardware
Hardware stopped being a limitation for ideas much sooner than that. Developers could already make anything they wanted on PS3 and Xbox 360.
I can still concede there's a massive jump in what's allowed between that era and the PS4 one. Although yes, for action games it doesn't get much better than Metal Gear Rising, and it also had MSG4 so current movie games were definitely possible already...
I'm happy with the potency jump from there to ps4 era, I feel like it was necessary and stuff like Sekiro or RE2-4 REmake would only be possible today as good as they are...
It will be very fricking hard to make me go >OH yes, now THIS is a game we couldn't have seen before.
But you're probably right.
I mean the PS3 already had fast games such as DMC4. Sekiro back then would look like that. The gameplay wouldn't change.
The re4 remake wouldn't exist since it wouldn't look much better, but re2 remake absolutely could since it's a TPS reimagining of the original- if anything it would have been better and more faithful than the real RE2R. The station and gameplay would likely remain the exact same but translated to non-fixed camera
Games would look worse graphically, that's a given. But there's nothing, gameplay wise, they couldn't already do on PS360. Or on the Switch for that matter.
NES to SNES to PS1 to PS2 to PS3... each jump was revolutionary. PS3 to PS4 to PS5 were evolutionary jumps: same thing, but better.
maybe, but people were saying the same thing when yuzu came out, and cemu was a thing, and in reality if you were able to run cemu you could more than likely comfortably run yuzu, especially now with all the updates that have been made to the emulator.
Mmh? What do you mean? Steam Deck is significantly faster than both the Switch and the Wii U, that's why it can emulate both consoles.
Switch 2 will be, let's say, 30% slower than a Steam Deck. No matter how optimized this supposed Switch 2 emulator becomes over time: the current iteration of the Steam Deck won't be able to play Switch 2 games, the performance gap between the two machines would be too small.
Now, a Steam Deck 2 may be able to, we'll see. Current Deck, RDNA2+Zen2? Nope.
>1996 - bro 8MB of RAM is more than enough - why would you even need 32MB; no one could possibly use that much >1996 - I think this will be the last processor I ever need; nothing can even utilize this whole 66MHz CPU. Why would you waste your money on 133MHz lol. > Holy shit morons, my 3dfx Voodoo1 just came in! It has its OWN 50MHz internal core and 4MB of RAM! I mean, it's 3D, but 3D only, so I still have to use it paired with my old 2D card so I can run Windows 3.1 (who needs Win95 lmao) [to be fair win95 was a piece of shit] >Who needs more than 420MB of storage? What could you possibly be storing?
>32MB; no one could possibly use that much
I'll stop you right at the start. Right now the argument stopped being that. We know they absolutely can wank 5 terabytes of power or whatever to animate realistic nose hair physics but the point is it doesn't matter, gameplay and visual styles will no longer change.
You already had a realistic action game in DMC 5, which FF16 tried to ape and brutally failed at that. FF16 actually doesn't look or feel much different than 15, we reached a real point of stagnation.
I mean we were bound to reach it at some point, diminishing returns is a concept. Devs had 'reality' as the end goal and we're comfortably close to it.
Processing power is enough for any action sequence.
And the worst is THIS ALL ASSUMES WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT GODDAMN 3D REALISTIC GAMES.
Notice all this shit is only for them. Remember when games could look like videogames or cartoons? King of fighters 13, DB Fighterz, Marvel vs Capcom?
Why the hell aren't they making more of those? You truly don't need any new machine for drawing high quality sprites / models. Talent and effort are required, that's it.
We should have RPGs and Action games looking like that by now instead of spending 5 gorillion years in Elden Ring 2 or Fallout 5 that includes realistic holotapes that recreate Elvis and make him perfectly sing any song through AI technology developed for this.
Just go back to making goddamn animated stylized games, not everything has to look like real life.
This but unironically. The computer on the lunar lander had 4KB of RAM. If 4KB is good enough to fly to the goddamn moon, it’s enough to make video games for children. devs need to learn to optimize better.
I just replied something like this, talent and effort were required back then. Notice games like Metal Slug, King of Fighters, early Ace Attorney, or even a lot of SNES / GBA games still look amazing and they were what, 32 bits?
The people of that time made the most appealing art they could with such limited technology. The Moon landing is similar to that golden era of sprites. Making something great out of so little.
Well people from current year probably also think they're doing "the absolute best they can" with the current technology, but it stopped being art. They fear looking like videogames or something.
This argument might work if the increase tech was being used for anything except making slightly more realistic ugly black women.
How about they use some of that cpu power on gameplay or even AI?
It absolutely isn't. Steam Deck is €370 right now, is more powerful than ps4, has bigger library and can even emulate switch games. Switch Oled is just €50 cheaper and is comparable to ps3 in specs. There's no excuse for Switch 2 to be this underpowered, especially since it's not coming out for several years more. Nintendo is israeliteing their cultist fanboys and they're just going to take it, lick the boot and thank nintendo as they always do.
>It absolutely isn't. Steam deck is €370 right now, is more powerful than ps4, has bigger library and can even emulate switch games
It isn't it is unable lto run any ps4 title at 1080p faster than the ps4 like spiderman miles morales and cyberpunk and god of war. Only the ally is faster and only like by 3-6 fps lol.
Rhe tflop/gpu power is also lower 1.6 on the steam deck vs 1.8 on the ps4. Not to mention the low memory bandwith
Like seriously wherw are you getting faster than ps4 from, I have a deck and it has a heart attack on spiderman miles morales it always freezes even at 480p upscalled with fsr.
>probably because the PC version of spiderman is a PS5 port.
No it ia the cross gen miles morales game. Even god of war doesn't run at 1080p originalsettings at 30fps on the steam deck.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It’s cross gen but there are upgrades to the new build. It’s like a very light remaster
>is more powerful than ps4
Jesus frick, you're already wrong on the second point. Learn about memory bandwidth, battery life, cost of manufacturing, and power usage in wattage. It will help you in the long run.
>Muh different platforms
Literally not an excuse. The PSP and the PS1 had a release date difference that were roughly the same between the Basedtch 2 and the PS4, yet the former's system was much, much more powerful than the latter.
Also, before you waste my time with a butthurt response >Muh technology stagnation
Not an excuse either. Nothing excuses Basedtendo from being cheapskates and closing deals with Nshittia for the cheapest, lowest-binned Tegra techslop they can get. Frick them and frick you.
fellas, I don't get it
how come consoles are thousands of times more powerful than those from 20 years ago
yet games aren't thousands of times better, but actually worse?
mem question but >thousand of times more powerful
they are not >yet games aren't thousand of times better
quadratic improvement of graphics and resolution
compared to Magnavox games improved thousandfold
Because constantly increased graphical demand means developers are spending more time and money on each game. More time and money spent on a game means if a game fails a smaller developer will go out of buisness before being able to get a second chance. So instead of taking any kind of risk they take the easiest and safest route available which is making something that's already proven to sell.
Graphics gays are killing games and they're too stupid to realize.
This, I'm surprised a supposedly smart place such as Ganker doesn't have this opinion posted more frequently. We are actively losing as gamers because of the stronger machines / graphic cards That they keep releasing.
That becomes the new standard to aim at, and it sure as hell consumes a big part of the already rushed game development.
Resident Evil Village looks amazing for example but most resources went into that, you have so much cut content, pretty empty areas with nothing to do and subpar gameplay, it's my #1 game that legit shows the dangers of maxing visuals and putting minimum effort into the actual game
>opinion posted more frequently
It used to be, not only here but most gaming forums were realising the massively inflated budgets that came from ever increasing realism in graphics were severely crippling the industry but the idea that games need to become films to be "art" is what is being pushed by most major publishers/gaming media so that is all what the younger generations know and either don't realise or don't care how it is actually affecting the games.
maybe, but ai is really making huge strides right now, though. it's becoming easier and easier to make larger games now. you don't even need that many people now to make a decently-sized game, to be honest. just look at what unreal is doing to character models. you just press a button and unreal automatically generates a fully modeled character. supposedly, that stuff took weeks to do in the past. at least, if the devs are to be believed.
>how come consoles are thousands of times more powerful than those from 20 years ago
because every computer is essentially just a frick ton of little on and off switches in different combinations that do math, and we've managed to find ways to make those little switches smaller and smaller so we can fit MORE switches onto things. We're actually at the point now where we make these little switches with lasers and they're so tiny now they're almost the size of an atom.
Normies are moronic though and will just use this for prettier pictures nobody notices after a certain point nor do they have the hardware to fully activate. Imagine if they spent all the money and development time they do making sure a horse's balls shrink when it gets cold actually making gameplay features.
multiples reasons why >the muh graphic argument
everything need to look like reality, same for realism, muh shrinking horse balls in the cold, but to make those, it take a long fricking time and money, the average time for AAA title is 4-5 years, half a fricking decade >4k
meme resolution, console can't do native anyway while PC there are a minority who have enough GPU and Monitor for it, but muh 4k will sell >corporatism and homosexualry
kinda self explanatory, corporations want more profit for doing nothing new, because risks, while SJW homosexualry want to make it how they want, even if doesn't make sense >barely any good developers in the industry
same like above, self explanatory, all the good developers left or died, there are some left, but they don't make anything or can't >soul
it take love and soul to make something good, same apply to Video games, back then developers did it with soul and put their heart into it, now not anymore.
There are more reasons, but not time to bring all of them on the table, pic related a crew back then, now search on google for modern gaming crew developers, it would make you throw up
4k is a meme resolution right now, but it's just a matter of time before it gets to where 1440p is now. of course, if raytracing and all that stuff is also a must, then it'll take longer, obviously.
Better hardware isn't going to solve the big problems we have with modern culture. Video games now are too expensive to produce, too easily-influenced by malicious sociopolitical interests, and modern day developers aren't generally inspired or motivated enough to produce games that could rival the quality of what was around 20-30 years ago.
Also doesn't help that hardware power is hitting the point of diminishing returns, you can only increase polygon counts, output resolution, or texture resolution and lighting fidelity so much before you can't notice a meaningful difference anymore. The CGI animation industry is starting to stagnate for similar reasons, and a lot of the creativity that flourished in the 5th and 6th generations was arguably wrought out of hardware limitations from the time that no-longer exist.
I actually have hope that this will drive creativity forward, once the wall of diminishing returns really hits - paying real hard attention to art design, for example. Ico stands up really well even now because its art direction is so fricking good, just straight beauty from start to finish.
You used to get >aktchually they use that power to have more middle quality models on screen instead of making one hyper quality model
arguments when using that image, but that image is actually what big budget devs are doing these days.
In a way, the switch and its successors actually have a lot of leeway on this front since its using the hardware of yesteryear to make hybrid home/portable consoles means they never need to worry about reaching the apex in graphical fidelity, at the same time forcing third parties to actually putting in effort to making switch games look good as they can within its limitations instead of just dumping a hundred gigs of uncompressed assets on it and expecting it to work.
Assuming it was always done for the sake of masking load times SSD tech makes it inexcusable now, I'd chock it up to being constrained by a shitty engine made with HDD's in mind or lazy devs at this point.
Graphics are a crutch for gameplay, just look in the origins for video games and you will see.
Back when graphics were pixelated garbage, developers had to work long grueling hours, coding the gameplay to ensure it was satisfying enough to keep you engaged.
-During the era of arcades, your gameplay needed to keep people pouring in quarters.
-During the NES era, your gameplay needed to keep you playing, at least till you reached the end. This was the era when just playing for high score, ended, so the game needed a ending.
-It was the same during the SNES era too, only now the gameplay needed to be better, more refined, then the NES era. Gameplay standards become more strict.
-It was during the advent of the PS1, that things started to change. The appeal of cinematic cutscenes was discovered. People existed, that wouldn't buy a game for the gameplay, but simply because the cutscenes were "so impressive".
And hence, since then, that player base grew, and the market grew with them, the player base that only is interested in games for the graphics. You'd think they died off when you could watch those graphics on youtube, but they did not. Technology grew, and made graphics easier to make. Hence why technology power grew, yet gameplay declined.
The lesson here is as follows: if you give a developer an inch worth of leeway, they will take a mile worth of laziness. The literal only way to make developers not be lazy, is to make them have no choice.
There was a good article I saw that defined this mindset, with Bayonetta 2. Platinum called Nintendo "insane perfectionists" because when they covered up gameplay glitches by making the graphics look better, Nintendo had the balls to tell them to fix the glitches instead. Platinum was offended and surprised by this. This is how standard developers are now.
>10 year difference
Original DS was basically N64 hardware level, the 3DS was PS2 level, so yeah that checks out and is consistent for the difference between home vs portable consoles. Well done homosexuals.
I am pretty happy with what a Switch can do now even though it is getting a bit long in the tooth. This is quite the upgrade that will allow a lot of more modern titles to be brought to the system and possibly improve the performance of current Switch games. If it has an OLED screen it just might replace my Deck for some games.
People b***h about the Switch being weak but it was the most powerful handheld for 4 years until the GPD Win 3 and 5 until the first practically available one. This Switch will have hefty competition in 2-3 or so years from new dockable PC handhelds.
Crysis running a Switch Lite(not my pic). I have that grey model and game, it actually runs really well for the potato it's running on and it's kinda cool to play it on a smallish handheld. Yeah my Deck could do it but it's a shoebox with grips.
I think the mere idea that anyone should be excited about a hanheld being able to run a 15 year old game is telling of the absolute state videogame hardware is in right now.
The chip it runs on is from 2015 so 8 years between melting all but the most powerful home PC's hardware that couldt run it on a handheld is pretty good, though the port of the game itself came 5 years after that.
Maybe I am easily impressed since I grew up with the OG Gameboy and its unlit B&W pea soup screen but buying Crysis for $10 in bed and playing it on a handheld less bulky than my childhood Gameboy was cool.
>Muh different platforms
Literally not an excuse. The PSP and the PS1 had a release date difference that were roughly the same between the Basedtch 2 and the PS4, yet the former's system was much, much more powerful than the latter.
Also, before you waste my time with a butthurt response >Muh technology stagnation
Not an excuse either. Nothing excuses Basedtendo from being cheapskates and closing deals with Nshittia for the cheapest, lowest-binned Tegra techslop they can get. Frick them and frick you.
so closer to PS3, then.
tendiexisters... we lost again
It's probably gonna feature another Tegra garbage-bin-tier processor >Almost as powerful
Um... tendiesisters?
>10 year old hardware is enough
Tendie cope
can you stupid homosexuals speak without dribbling memes
>The steam deck is currently as powerful as a PS4 so you're telling me...
It is not I have one are you playing god of war at original settings 1080p, frick no. Only the ally dies that at it's turbo max powet mode.
literally never ever going to happen. not in a gazillion years. nintendo makes wayyy too much money on the nostalgia crowd to ever do such a thing. and why should they? when the nintendo goys willingly buy 20 and 30 year old games for nearly full price every time nintendo comes out with a new console, why should they make the new console backwards-compatible?? that's just really really bad business sense, right there. good for the customers, but really bad for the nintendo wallet.
There's no way Switch 2 won't be backwards compatible. But I can see a world where they try to sell 60 FPS patches, and tendies would be more than happy to buy them.
FRICK OFF YOU FRICKING APOLOGIST wienerSUCKERS
I've finished this shit a few days ago and the performance made it absolutely fricking atrocious to play. Constant load screens up the same, inputs being eaten due to shit framerate, and this shit is a switch EXCLUSIVE, there's no fricking alternative, you have to endure this shit.
No More Heroes 3 was another disaster, the combat ran surprisingly well on the switch, but the open world city sections were downright unplayable and demanded an actual skip button due to how fricking horribly they ran on the switch. Too fricking bad that the game was stuck on switch hell for a whole year
I don't care about graphics, but perfomance is a whole other problem
Hell, if HURRR MUH GRAPHIXXX AND MUH PERFOORMANCE doesn't matter then WHY EVEN RELEASE A FRICKIGN SWITCH 2 FOR FRICKS SAKE
Literally forcing people to upgrade JUST to fulfil their israeli agenda
>switch has better looking open world games then NMH3 that run better >somehow it is switch's fault NMH3 was shit
You are moronic but all NMH3 fans are.
Doesn't change the fact that it runs objectively better on other platforms
On the switch you have to deal with switch games being downright unplayable because the hardware is shit
>switch has better looking open world games then NMH3 that run better >somehow it is switch's fault NMH3 was shit >is directly shown why this reasoning is moronic >doubles down on it
You are moronic but all NMH3 fans are.
>switch has better looking open world games then NMH3 that run better
Aside from xenoblade, there's no other game that runs open world fine on the switch. Even goddamn shit like the new pokemon game which has literal N64 graphics still has framerate issues up the ass to the point it looks like a glitched mess
Look, devs are fricking moronic and I'd rather them release games on platformers that aren't goddamn cancer that having them release them on the switch. Yes, it's their fault, and yes, it's also the switch's fault because it makes the problem even worse
Now keep choking on corporation wiener and thank you for paying for the games I've pirated.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>gamefreak is a shit dev that was completely shown up by 1 dude writing their entire game for them so it actually works >this is the switch's fault
You may actually be the biggest moron that has ever posted here. Like I'm not even sure you understand what technology is and think you are posting using some kind of magic or something.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>that dev is shit >this other dev is shit
Alright let's all focus on non shit devs then....... monolith?
Yeah let's make a console with shit specs so that everyone can release unoptimized dogshit on it. Who fricking cares as long as 2~3 devs aren't moronic. As long as 1 in every 1000 games doesn't run as shit, then it's not the switch's fault
11 months ago
Anonymous
>monolith
The dev who made that game that you already said ran better then NMH3 and pokemon? >then it's not the switch's fault
The console has shown it can have better looking open world games that run better so yes it is not the console fault that NMH3 and Pokemon are shit. The non moronic devs haven't figured out how to sneak extra ram into your console when you boot up their game and then magic it back out when you load up Pokemon.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't fricking care
The majority of devs are moronic and need good hardware to make the games not run like trash. That's a fact. Hell, most devs don't even give a single shit about optimization because trannies like this homosexual
Yes
Stop being such a hyperbolic homosexual that thinks anything dipping below 59.99fps for a tenth of a second is "unplayable".
will defend ANYTHING
But who fricking cares, just release new shitty outdated hardware, force existing users to upgrade hardware, and have nothing fricking change because devs don't give a shit.
Better to force moronic tendies to hack their consoles and overclock than actually releasing some decent hardware
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's funny you are going around calling people corporate wienersuckers and accusing other people of defending poor optimisation when your argument is that the switch is bad because it doesn't cover the asses of bad developers who can't optomise.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Fine, enjoy upgrading just so you can keep playing 2007 tier games at 20 FPS because you assume that every single dev is monolith tier
You're saying decent hardware, what is "decent hardware" you and how much are you willing to pay for it?
$500~700
Basically better and more expensive than the steam deck. I'm willing to pay that much or more. Too bad that we're going to have to pay around ~$450 + online tax just for a 5FPS boost in some random games
You're literally arguing for better hardware to compensate for and enable shitty devs.
You are everything wrong with modern consoles and games.
Anon, devs are NOT going to optimize their fricking games. With homosexuals unironically defending TOTK's perfomance and with homosexuals defending games being over 200 GB when it's filled with hundreds of language files that you don't need, devs have absolutely no fricking reason to optimize. The least Nintendo could do is release non shit hardware to compensate for devs being moronic, but that's not going to happen
You ARE going to pay for overpriced outdated hardware, you ARE going to play unoptimized garbage and you WILL like it
I'm not part of the problem, I bought a used switch and hacked it, bought XB3, didn't pay for online, I didn't support any sort of cancer unlike you Black folk. With how much gamefreak got away with, I absolutely hope that the next pokeshit game straight up bricks the hardware, braindead tendies deserve it
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Basically better and more expensive than the steam deck.
People won't spend that much money on a console. It will just have the same power as a steam deck but run more efficently. >Too bad that we're going to have to pay around ~$450
Complain that your average normalgay won't spend 600-700 dollars on a console that would have ps4 performance and 1 hour battery life at best.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>People won't spend that much money on a console
(You)
See you at the price reveal
11 months ago
Anonymous
>he actually believe the average person is willing to spend half a grand on a handheld >even at good economic times >and especially during bad economic times with rampant inflation
That's a good one, you should do stand up comedy.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Fine, enjoy upgrading just so you can keep playing 2007 tier games at 20 FPS because you assume that every single dev is monolith tier
You could just stop posting and making an idiot of yourself instead of trying to change the subject but ok.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm not part of the problem
You are straight up defending big corporations doing lazy work.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're saying decent hardware, what is "decent hardware" you and how much are you willing to pay for it?
11 months ago
Anonymous
> to hack their consoles and overclock than actually releasing some decent hardware
Handhelds will never have decent hardware, the rog ally is barely faster than a ps4 and has 30 minutes of battery life when gaming.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're literally arguing for better hardware to compensate for and enable shitty devs.
You are everything wrong with modern consoles and games.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Even goddamn shit like the new pokemon game which has literal N64 graphics still has framerate issues up the ass to the point it looks like a glitched mess
What's your point?
GF devs are absolute shit, if the new pokemon games were on the pc running on a damn super computer they would still run like shit and glitch out the ass, because the GF devs are shit.
If tears of the kingdom and xenoblade games run as well as they do on the system, the problem isn't the system.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>totk >runs well
Die
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes
Stop being such a hyperbolic homosexual that thinks anything dipping below 59.99fps for a tenth of a second is "unplayable".
>I expect a closed platform that will cost as much as a Steam Deck to function as the equivalent as the Steam Deck.
It does though, the steam deck isn't as powerful as a ps4. Only the ally is in gaming.
It’s not only a handheld you Reddit homosexual real gamers play on their tv, they could at least make the dock stronger to the point it will look much better on a tv
February: >Metroid Prime Remastered >Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Expansion Pass Wave 3 >Kirby’s Return to Dream Land Deluxe >Splatoon 3 Expansion Pass Wave 1 - Inkopolis
March: >Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass [Wave 4] >Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon >You Are Already Thin! Fitness Boxing Fist of the North Star
April: >Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp
May: >The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
June: >Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope - DLC 2: The Last Spark Hunter >Pikmin HD >Pikmin 2 HD >Everybody 1-2-Switch >Master Detective Archives: RAIN CODE
July: >Manic Mechanics >Pikmin 4 >Disney Illusion Island
September: >Baten Kaitos I & II HD Remaster
October: >Detective Pikachu Returns >Super Mario Bros. Wonder
November: >Fashion Dreamer >WarioWare: Move It! >Super Mario RPG Remake
December: >Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince
Announced for 2023: >FANTASY LIFE i: The Girl Who Steals Time >Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass [Wave 5] >Natsu-Mon! 20th Century Summer Vacation >Pokémon Scarlet & Violet: The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero >Samba de Amigo: Party Central
Beyond: >Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon Remaster >Metroid Prime 4 >Unnamed Princess Peach game >Professor Layton and The New World of Steam >Resident Evil Outrage aka Revelations 3
What do you mean, feels good man. I can't underatand how any of those titles can make you excited. Even though I have a Switch I am going to skip all of them.
Don't care about tendie shit but I can't wait.
I'm going to scalp this shit so fricking hard and resell it to tendies twice the price after a year when trannies finished jailbreaking this shit.
For all the shit I love to give to Nintendo, they're the only ones who haven't fully caved to ESG (yet). Imagine how cucked the gaming industry is nowadays that fricking Nintendo is the last haven for horny heterosexual teenager boys.
It's hard to say if the hardware itself (CPU and GPU) is faster, but the Switch has a massive advantage compared to 7th gen consoles: 4x the amount of memory.
no they haven't you child brained moron. there are only 9bil people on the planet, and the majority of them live in shithole nations where being able to afford rice, and beans is a luxury you stupid fool. they've sold 125mil as of '23 you stupid fricking Black person.
Hell the ps2 was still in production and selling all the way until... 2009?
There was even a point that the ps2 was outselling the ps3. lol
I think some people have forgotten how absolutely disastrous the ps3 launch was.
Never forget.
That might be a smart move actually.
Wouldn't this basically be a giga frick you to PS5?
Like if you were making a game you'd probably decide not to bother with making it PS5 exclusive, because if you made it for PS4 it'd probably already be able to go straight to Switch. It pretty much means most devs will just stick with PS4 like quality games rather then bother going above.
ANY reason to buy the switch 2 over a steam deck if the switch 2 doesn't have backwards compatibility? Like, you're pretty much comparing a system with 3 games against a system with over a billion games at that point
Anon you fricking moron, are you unironically thinking that nintendo won't kill backwards compatibility as an excuse to resell totk?
The Wii U had backwards compatibility + VC and it flopped hard. The switch didn't have backwards compatibility and it had a shitty subscription service "VC" and it's a colossal success. There's no reason to not be fricking israeli since that's always the winning move
The switch 2 exclusives, assuming the Steam deck can't play them. If it can though.... most people won't know Steamdeck can do that. Otherwise that'd be the only console to buy
Nah, the Steam Deck won't be able to emulate Switch 2 games, since these two machines will probably be very close in performance. You need a significantly faster PC in order to emulate a console. I'm talking 10x or more, so a modern desktop PC should be able to.
maybe, but people were saying the same thing when yuzu came out, and cemu was a thing, and in reality if you were able to run cemu you could more than likely comfortably run yuzu, especially now with all the updates that have been made to the emulator.
If its close to PS4 in terms of being a but worse then thats pathetic but if its close to PS4 in terms of being slightly better then thats good. So if it is around PS4 pro tier then I think thats good. You could make shitty versions of PS5 and Series X versions of games run on PS4 pro tier hardware as long as the Switch 2 uses fast solid state storage. Like honestly what games from the last 3 years would not run on PS4 pro with lower textures and frame rate and so on.
Almost all games except the handful of PS5 exclusives came out on PS4 already. So it should make multi plats way easier if the power is comparable to PS4.
It being only base ps4 tier would still be a bit shit. If its Ps4 Pro tier then that would be great as that would easily be able to run downgraded versions of the vast majority of games people care about I would say. Like they could probably get a shitter version of Starfield to run on PS4 pro tier hardware and that would sell frick loads.
Honestly making ports should be legally mandatory, it's stupid how games on PC can simply be set to Low settings and run on older machines but for consoles the devs can simply decide to not move the graphics slider to the left, despite it being totally possible, and you simply don't get your game in the previous Gen.
PS4 Pro is the Low Settings version of PS5 so it'll forever be able to run the same games if they just bothered lowering the performance / graphics, which is possible on pc.
Isn't the steamdeck also about as powerful as a PS4? I just ordered one, but it hasn't arrived yet. I'm totally fine with that though because I've only been interested in a handful of games made during the ps4 era (Bloodborne, Spiderman, and Elden Ring) and after, and I really don't feel like I'm missing out.
Also I'm really convinced now the only people that play on consoles and haven't moved to PC are children that don't know any better. All my coworkers are normies as frick but they all have PCs. I think only one of them owns a PS5 and he barely plays games
>PS4 is from 2013 >tendie troonies will have a 2013-tier console in 2025 >they think it's a victory
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH KEEP BEING MINDLESS SLAVES TO BLACKROCK, GOYS
That is genuinely really good. There’s hardly any notices jump in power between PS4 & PS5; diminishing returns are starting to hit hard so PS4-level seems ideal for a console that’s half-handheld
>PS4 & PS5
Well, on paper the jump is huge. In practice we've been stuck in cross-gen hell for the last three years. And when a next-gen exclusive comes out, it's Final Fantasy 16 that looks and runs worse than said cross-gen games.
Any additional power will be used by devs for graphics homosexualry. I'd rather the switch 2 not even be any stronger hardware wise just better build quality for the controllers.
You can buy hall analog sticks and replace them yourself, no need to wait for Nintendo. https://www.gulikit.com/productinfo/945307.html
with ps4 gen we were close of reaching the peak of traditional graphics, next step will be photo realism but ps5 won't be able to deliver it. this gen will be mostly ps4 tier graphics but with better physics, more particles, more realistic shadows etc. and with 60 fps in 4k like returnal and also much much bigger open world maps. if switch 2 gets to ps4 performance level it will probably be more than enough power for nintendo to make its games look like pixar movies.
Any additional power will be used by devs for graphics homosexualry. I'd rather the switch 2 not even be any stronger hardware wise just better build quality for the controllers.
TENDIE SISTERS WE KEPT SAYING THAT STEAM DECK IS WORTHLESS EVEN THOUGH IT'S AS POWERFUL AS PS4 BUT NOW WE WANT A HANDHELD PS4? WHY ARE WE SO HYPOCRITE AND INSUFFERABLE?
the mental gymnastics of tendie troonies >N64: CDs are shit, cartridge are better. >GC: mini-CDs are great, DVDs are shit >Wii: who need games? i want to stay fit with virtual sports >Switch: who the frick cares about graphics, FPS and processor power? 5fps @720p is more than enough lol you sure like movie games LOL XD >Switch 2: Actually, PS4 with 60fps and 1080p is based and awesome I can't wait to play games at good graphics lel xD
the mental gymnastics of tendie troonies >N64: CDs are shit, cartridge are better. >GC: mini-CDs are great, DVDs are shit >Wii: who need games? i want to stay fit with virtual sports >Switch: who the frick cares about graphics, FPS and processor power? 5fps @720p is more than enough lol you sure like movie games LOL XD >Switch 2: Actually, PS4 with 60fps and 1080p is based and awesome I can't wait to play games at good graphics lel xD
>this level of obsession
The worst part is you just know it's one anon making all these posts trying to bait replies.
Cheap console confirmed. At least it's better than nothing. The Switch was barely more powerful than the 360 and PS3. It sucks that Nintendo is stuck in the past with their hardware.
>Cheap console confirmed
Yeah, no. It will cost as much as a new gaming laptop in my country. The current Switch is still selling for $400 plus over here.
What are the big games from the last 3 years of PS5 and Series X that would not run on PS4 ish hardware with lower settings considering I assume the Switch 2 will have a faster storage medium than what the PS4 had.
I assume people wouldn't want to play a flight sim on a portable machine. Isnt the point to play sitting in front of a big screen using a flight stick and whatnot?
>I bet it will just be DLSS2 so games will still be CPU bottlenecked.
If the CPU is at least on newer/more modern architecture, even if the clockspeeds still aren't high, you'll get a lot more oomph out of it
Why does anyone care? You just buy Nintendo hardware to play Zelda and Metroid and Mario. Nobody buys 3rd party games on Nintendo. So their hardware power is mostly irrelevant
damn, this is pretty disappointing, to be honest. i know nintendo isn't really in the "red sea" business anymore, as they themselves say it, but still. i'm thinking that it definitely ought to be as powerful as a ps4 because it's fitting for nintendo to be one generation behind, tech-wise, that's all fine ad dandy, but two generations?? that's just too much, i think. nintendo can sail the blue seas all they want, as they say, but not to this extent, i think. this is just too much.
tendies when discussing retro games >uhhh why do others like non nintendo systems? they were underpowered shit!
tendies when discussing current games >who cares about graphics?
Tendie here. Sega had some fun games and the PS1 & 2 mog the everloving shit out of the N64 and Gamecube.
>>who cares about graphics?
Well, more like who cares about graphical fidelity. There are modern games that look worse than Mega Man on the NES because while it was severely limited it had a cohesive artstyle that some modern games don't. I'd much rather devs aim to make something look like a PS3 game with a good art style than going for the most detailed bland realism they can every time.
Tendie here. I don't consider anything from before the PS2 'underpowered'. It was what it was, and some incredible games came out on those machines to the point that the PSX has its technical limitations as a fricking indie aesthetic now.
How are people seriously okay with how weak Nintendo hardware has constantly been? It's not nearly cheap enough to compensate for it and the game prices escpecially negate any savings you could make. My last Nintendo console was the GC since it could actually keep up with the competition at the time.
I'm fine with weak hardware, the Switch is more than fast enough. The issue is price: they're selling a tablet from 2015 for $300, and games cost $60, and you have to subscribe to play online.
Keeping up with the competition just means pseudo photo realism borefests. I like the weak hardware because it encourages simple cartoon graphics with better style.
>How are people seriously okay with how weak Nintendo hardware has constantly been?
Aaa graphics mean nothing atm
Like come on when next gen games run at 720p 45fps on the ps5, it nust seems like a meme.
Neverthless handhelds are always weak. Even the ally
I imagine one reason Nintendo likes dragging out previous gen hardware is to capitalize on developer experience with a given spec. They will have already spent years working within the limitations of the hardware so developers can make the most out of it rather than spend a couple of years learning and warming up to a sudden increase in horsepower. I say this thinking about Nintendo first-parties, which tend to look and perform fricking stellar for whatever hardware they're on.
It's true. You could give Gamefreak a 10th gen console to play with and they'd churn out something that looked like it came out two gens ago while running below 30fps with a shit ton of glitches and bugs.
There's an entire generation of people who entered into gaming with the 360/PS3 and don't understand how much of a gulf of progress there was before then. All they've seen is increments and graphical gimmicks. They don't understand why being PS4 level is more than enough, because leaps that would actually improve what a game is capable of all ended about a decade ago.
Same generation that buys new phones as they come out, even worse, iPhones, when frankly any mid phone from 2012~2016 should run whatever apps people enjoy and let them surf the web.
It's just consumerism and >They released it so I guess it's time to upgrade
It's a claim made by the activision CEO. He has no real info anyway, it's just one of the people under him told him that. Even he doesn't completely believe what he reiterated.
Yeah, more or less. But Nintendo won't release a Switch successor that costs £549 RRP day one, I'd imagine. I'd assume it'll also be backwards compatible with the Switch library.
Were people seriously expecting it to have modern hardware while somehow magically being reasonably priced?
The switch used decade old hardware when it came out too and was the most powerful tablet at the time of release, but they also just barely got the price point to $300.
And it's still outselling everything.
They're not competing with pure power and haven't in a long time.
>Were people seriously expecting it to have modern hardware
Don't you mean high end hardware, only the rog ally is faster than a ps4 in actual games, the steam deck isn't that. Nintendo would have to make their handheld extremely overpriced to just hit that range.
I'm guessing inflation amd incremental updates on arm just mean that the switch won't be uber powerful for an cheap price.
You're almost right. It wasn't the most powerful tablet at the time, it was just a gaming-focused chip in a form factor that doesn't normally HAVE those. You've got some moron here somewhere going on about the Snapdragon 8, but that's not actually gaming-oriented so it wouldn't really be able to do what the Switch 2 will do, comparatively effortlessly.
PS4 with Nintendo levels of optimization is going to be running games at 1440p 60fps for things like Splatoon or Mario, and 1440p 30fps for Zelda and the like.
And, if the rumors about it having DLSS2 are true, it could very well be hitting 4K after upscaling
>1440p + 144 fps would be kino
The ps5 and xbox series x can't do that.
the mental gymnastics of tendie troonies >N64: CDs are shit, cartridge are better. >GC: mini-CDs are great, DVDs are shit >Wii: who need games? i want to stay fit with virtual sports >Switch: who the frick cares about graphics, FPS and processor power? 5fps @720p is more than enough lol you sure like movie games LOL XD >Switch 2: Actually, PS4 with 60fps and 1080p is based and awesome I can't wait to play games at good graphics lel xD
>Switch 2: Actually, PS4 with 60fps and 1080p is based and awesome I can't wait to play games at good graphics lel xD
Eh I think 1080p is all that is needed on a handheld tbh.
It's gonna be a loooooooong fricking console generation for Nintendo if it can't match the specs of an Xbox Series S... or at the VERY LEAST match the specs of a Steam Deck.
The Switch wasn't even that far behind a PS4 so this would be a pitiful upgrade. Even less of a tech leap than between the Wii U and Switch.
>or at the VERY LEAST match the specs of a Steam Deck.
1 the steam deck is slower than a series s and a ps4. The switch will basically just be as powerful as a steam deck, just more efficent >The Switch wasn't even that far behind a PS4 so this would be a pitiful upgrade.
Only the rog ally is faster than a ps4 in actual games like god of war, but even then only a 3fps difference.
Should also be noted that the PS4 and Xbone's hardware wasn't that impressive even when it was new, it was roughly equivalent to a mid-high range PC from 2009 or 2010 and it regularly got shit-on since you could build a PC that would run circles around it for close to the same price if you were thrifty. That's what necessitated the Pro consoles.
Yes and even the ally has the same power as a ps4. Overall handhelds are too weak.
>The ps5 and xbox series x can't do that.
Most games could if they toned down the realistic graphics. The PS5/XBX can run Quake 3 at 1440p+144fps. I'd say these console can run almost every game from the PS3/X360 era at 1440p+144fps.
The trick is they literally just need to support fully modern HDMI outputs. It's one of those things they inexplicably cheaped out on before but will probably do better on this time around.
As for 144 fps, I think some devs like Shin'en might be able to do it but everyone else will be sticking with 1080p60 or 1440p30 on any theoretical Switch 2
It's gonna be a loooooooong fricking console generation for Nintendo if it can't match the specs of an Xbox Series S... or at the VERY LEAST match the specs of a Steam Deck.
The Switch wasn't even that far behind a PS4 so this would be a pitiful upgrade. Even less of a tech leap than between the Wii U and Switch.
Should also be noted that the PS4 and Xbone's hardware wasn't that impressive even when it was new, it was roughly equivalent to a mid-high range PC from 2009 or 2010 and it regularly got shit-on since you could build a PC that would run circles around it for close to the same price if you were thrifty. That's what necessitated the Pro consoles.
>says Activision boss >Activision >off all places, getting an Early Dev Kit >Breaking NDA under oath
booby would be under 3 different lawsuits from nintendo if his comment were true
The devkits have gone out to multiple places already, and given Bobby was on the stand saying skipping the Switch was a misstep for Activision, I wouldn't be surprised if Acti requested to be high on the list.
>The devkits have gone out to multiple places already
I can accept that. what I dont believe is Activision is one of the Devs granted an early kit. Ill believe more Microsoft getting one that Activision
>Nda probably has shit about court testimony and government agency requests.
lol no.
but lets say it does.
He was never directly asked about Switch future capabilities. so still NDA break.
again: I call it off hand "speculation" comment, AT BEST.
>Forbiden West >leaked Dev Cost >at 70$ per sale, game wont break even until 9 millions unit sold
now wonder Sony is dying and desperate to keep CoD under hte current arrangement. their in house projects are money sink of have razor thin margins at best.
It is not just a Sony issue. Graphics are destroying AAA and most AA gaming because they are driving up development costs and extending develpment times. The issue has been here since the PS4 / Xbox One era. Now people are really starting to notice it. We are almost 3 years into the current console generation. There would be jack shit to play if they did not have backwards compatibility.
Fun if true. Nintendo prefers the cheaper smaller less powerful console anyway, so a handheld console about the power of a PS4 would be a pretty nice addition.
>There are plenty of phones that were capable of matching a Switch in 2017 at a budget price
Lol frick no, mobile phones were only abke to run decent is games like asphalt 9 in 2019 ( 720p 30fps with dips)and even then they ran it at a worse framerate than the switch, which ran asphalt 9 at 720p 60fps.
The power of the Switch or Nintendo consoles in general isn't really the draw for me. I just like having a portable for RPGs and some fun Nintendo games.
Why do Nintendofans always go on the "only want muh photrealism" bullshit argument as if a game looking photorealistic is the only benefit non dogshit hardware has? They also blantantly ignore the tons of stylized games that look and run 100x better than Nintendo's.
>bullshit argument as if a game looking photorealistic is the only benefit non dogshit hardware has
Because that is all developers use it for, that and to brute force shit so they don't have to optimise anymore.
Or do you think the pajeets that made the latest slop you played somehow figured out how to code better AI or suddenly learned how to design better gameplay then the last 20 games the convey belt they work on shat out?
>Honest question for the technerds is a current gen Samsung/Iphone stronger than a ps4?
No, the 8 gen 2 has around the same graphical horsepower as a steam deck or rog ally at 15 watts. The a16 bionic is slightly slowr.
Only the apple m1 (15 watts) has ps4 power(around the same power as the rog ally at max wattage) And the m2 is almost double that.
iirc the Nvidia leak's SoC given for the Switch 2 runs circles around PS4 in the CPU department, it is overall stronger than the PS4 but we can expect it to be downclocked since the Switch itself is
I thought he said between PS5 and PS4 it's more towards PS4?
Were you coping when you read that the first time? He said as powerful as a PS4, never anything above that
>ALMOST as powerful as a 10 year old console
Bro, PS4 with DLSS is more than enough
For a cheap handheld it's enough. Plus it's going to be backwards compatible.
>cheap
>cheap
It'll be $500, with a $100 controller and $70 games.
>$70 games
you WILL pay the zelda tax
skyward sword was "definitely" worth being full price while metroid prime wasn't
>handheld
How many people use their switch in handle held mode, be honest.. I bet the Switch Lite was a failure
Half. They released statistics a while ago, 40% exclusively used it handheld and 40 exclusively docked with 20% who use both.
>sells more than all other modern consoles combined in your path
IT'S A FLO-ACK!!!
damn, that was pretty nice, how did whoever make this? animatronics? a guy in a yeti suit? cgi?
>animatronics? a guy in a yeti suit? cgi?
Anon...
what? i don't fricking know how that thing was created, now do i? if you're so smart, why don't you tell me?
anon, it's real found footage it's not any of those things
Pretty sure it's CGI in the beginning, but it cuts to a large physical puppet when it passes the camera and rolls down the hill. Zero chance it's an animatronic, not even the best of them can move like that.
It's from a Russian ad by the way. Here it is in better quality:
>almost
i hope his dad laughed his ass off. i would have, for sure. then i would have played this clip on his confirmation and his marriage. it's just too good not to.
>confirmation
What kind of third world tradition is this?
The frick's a confirmation?
>the next tendie console with almost as much power as a 10 year old console will be the best selling console for the next 5 years
: D
I mean, it's a handheld. At a certain point, it can't GET more powerful. There's only so much computational power you can place in a device that size before it starts becoming impractical. Honestly, the SteamDeck is a little beyond that point thanks to its embarrassing battery life.
>Embarrassing battery life.
Eh, the worst I've seen was 2 hours with Witcher 3 at Golden 40. That's comparable to a Switch running a first-party title. Running emulators, I can squeeze 4-5 hours out of it at 100%. Which I feel is fair.
Replace your Switch's battery. My launch model Switch couldn't go more than 90-120 minutes on a charge, so I replaced it and I'm back up to 5-6 hours.
I've had my Switch since Christmas 2017. I'm surprised the battery even charges anymore.
My 3 year old gaming smartphone is faster than a PS4 and smaller than a Switch. The Switch 2 being this underpowered is not an acceptable excuse. What you are saying is just pure tendie copium.
tech illiterate
Who? (You)? A Snapdragon 865 is more powerful than a PS4 you uncultured monkey. The GPU included in it's package is also more powerful.
>a Formula 1 dragster has more horsepower than a diesel engine in a semi, therefore the F1 car can haul more cargo than an 18-wheeler
Only if you're talking about the CPU. The GPU portion is still heavily limited by the low memory bandwidth. Nvidia knows this which is why all of their mobile chips after the tegra series keep raising the bandwidth by at least 30-40 percent.
>GPU portion is still heavily limited by the low memory bandwidth.
The gpu portion is also weaker. That guy doesn't know what he is talking about, the tflops in the snapdragon 865 is 1.2, that is lower than and xbox one and a lot lower than the ps4. The gpu is weak.
Can't belive the switch 2 will be as powerful as a steam deck. Bit upsetting but eh, only the Rog Ally is as powerful as a ps4, I'm guessing the price for a mobile device would just be too high not tomention battery issues.
Lol frick off. I have an 865 phone, you are a tech illiterate, even the meme deck isn't as fast as a ps4 with its 1.6 tflops, only the rog ally is and it is only slightly faster ib real gaming.
Most anons here are too moronic to understand battery life and price of manufacturing.
>Can't belive the switch 2 will be as powerful as a steam deck.
In portable mode. In docked it will run 2x faster. Plus it will have DLSS
How much did you spend for this elite smartphone?
>How much did you spend for this elite smartphone?
I paid £419($500-600) for my s20fe 3 years ago. And the dude is lying when he says it s faster than a ps4, it is only slightly faster than a switch.
That makes sense. Granted, the Switch is pretty old now, and Nintendo hasn't wanted to compete with cutting edge console wars like Sony and Xbox, but I'd have a hard time believing they wouldn't update sooner if something that much more powerful were available to competitive pricing.
>faster than a PS4
>smaller than a Switch
and how much did it cost?
fake and gay, don't even bother asking. There's no way a) it exists and b) if it does, anon will say "It cost me $150".
thats the "elephant in the room"
Switch (or 2) Needs to strike a balance between
Several aspects
Specs
Form Factor
Price
Battery
Out of this we know Price should not op 350$
Form Factor, being generous as frick, Steam Deck
Battery life shall be 8 hours at least.
Then the only compromise part left would be specs.
That being said, Nintendo really has no need to catch up soon
Since Last gen Devs already the Wall. Any new amount of power is basically wortheless
>Beyond 4K and 60fps is a meme and most people dont have display that support that
>Graphics are pretty much as good as they can get without going full bankrupt (which many already practically are)
>Game devs are creatively bankrupt so all the extra power wont translated to be QoL or Gameplay experience.
>Beyond 4K and 60fps is a meme and most people dont have display that support that
This is pretty true. I can see higher fps being useful in first-person shooters, but for non fps games, 60 frames per second is fine.
>gaming smartphone
>playing games on smartphone
genshin, pubg, call of duty and marvel snap are good smartphone games
Let me guess. You wanted more?
>10 year old console
reminder PS4 and Xbox One are current gen consoles, and 30fps 1080p is the standard.
They were dated on release
1. Kotick said gen 8, which goes from 1.3TF Xbox One to 6TF Xbox One X.
2. Kotick also said he doesn't know the actual specs
3. The email which included the discussed conversation was from 2019
4. We've also known the specs since the Nvidia hack in 2020:
>T239 chip has 1536 Ampere Cuda cores, 48 Tensor cores, 12 RT cores and 128bit memory bus
>T239 uses a single cluster, 8 core CPU (likely pointing to Cortex-A78C)
At current Switch clocks that results in 1.4TF portable and 2.3TF docked + DLSS on top of all that.
6x stronger GPU than Switch and CPU that runs circles around PS4's Jaguar
You aren't supposed to know stuff, just get angry about video game and look forward to getting angry about next video game.
That homosexual you quoted knows jack shit either. He's just moronic enough to believe the nvidia hack when it had nothing to back it up ever since. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if nintendo did further changes to their hardware before or since that hack.
What, unless another hack happens it won't be true?
> I wouldn't be surprised if nintendo did further changes4gyjg
If they made changes it wouldn't be called T239 anymore. And T239 is ready for production since late last year with physical chips being tested. Why do that when nothing using it cropped up?
1. Ready for production isn't the same as being in production
2. Console manufacturers constantly adjust up the hardware all the way up to 6 months before production. See sony's extra 4 gigs of GDDR5 memory right before the official PS4 announcement and the delayed manufacturing of series X consoles all because the piece that handles raytracing took longer than expected to be fully mapped out before giving the go ahead
3. T239 is only a codename, it can be reused for something completely different. I can make a pure RISC hardware called nighthawk, cancel that and reuse the codename for an x86 system.
Teel deer: stop being a fricking Black person and think.
Lovelace variant was use in theory
Modern smartphones are most powerful that Nintendo Switch. Nintendo need a API for collecting input of devices such as generic bluetooth gamepads.
PS4 level power is more than enough.
>10 year old hardware is enough
Tendie cope
Lack of 60fps will be a problem for me, but yes that's true as far as fidelity goes.
>almost
It can't even reach PS4 level moron
Lend me your crystal ball homosexual. Why the frick you morons saying like it's already being set in stone that Switch 2 will be PS4 level?
I've unironically made posts about that for the last month. There is nothing Devs can't accomplish in ps4 hardware, they're lying through their teeth claiming we need to upgrade / it's just graphicshomosexualry.
Fighterz, Sekiro DMC5, RE4 remake, etc.. whatever you liked was made on the PS4. What the frick does the next gen offer?
More processing power to make giant realistic worlds with barely any gameplay like FF16?
NOT to mention Nintendo makes 2d games. The PS4 can already create any 2d game imaginable if Fighterz and Guilty Gear are any indication, but only Nintendo cares enough to make 2d games nowadays.
>There is nothing Devs can't accomplish in ps4 hardware
Hardware stopped being a limitation for ideas much sooner than that. Developers could already make anything they wanted on PS3 and Xbox 360.
I can still concede there's a massive jump in what's allowed between that era and the PS4 one. Although yes, for action games it doesn't get much better than Metal Gear Rising, and it also had MSG4 so current movie games were definitely possible already...
I'm happy with the potency jump from there to ps4 era, I feel like it was necessary and stuff like Sekiro or RE2-4 REmake would only be possible today as good as they are...
It will be very fricking hard to make me go
>OH yes, now THIS is a game we couldn't have seen before.
But you're probably right.
I mean the PS3 already had fast games such as DMC4. Sekiro back then would look like that. The gameplay wouldn't change.
The re4 remake wouldn't exist since it wouldn't look much better, but re2 remake absolutely could since it's a TPS reimagining of the original- if anything it would have been better and more faithful than the real RE2R. The station and gameplay would likely remain the exact same but translated to non-fixed camera
Games would look worse graphically, that's a given. But there's nothing, gameplay wise, they couldn't already do on PS360. Or on the Switch for that matter.
NES to SNES to PS1 to PS2 to PS3... each jump was revolutionary. PS3 to PS4 to PS5 were evolutionary jumps: same thing, but better.
Mmh? What do you mean? Steam Deck is significantly faster than both the Switch and the Wii U, that's why it can emulate both consoles.
Switch 2 will be, let's say, 30% slower than a Steam Deck. No matter how optimized this supposed Switch 2 emulator becomes over time: the current iteration of the Steam Deck won't be able to play Switch 2 games, the performance gap between the two machines would be too small.
Now, a Steam Deck 2 may be able to, we'll see. Current Deck, RDNA2+Zen2? Nope.
PS5 makes all those PS4 games run at 1440p 60-120fps.
>muh fps
>1996 - bro 8MB of RAM is more than enough - why would you even need 32MB; no one could possibly use that much
>1996 - I think this will be the last processor I ever need; nothing can even utilize this whole 66MHz CPU. Why would you waste your money on 133MHz lol.
> Holy shit morons, my 3dfx Voodoo1 just came in! It has its OWN 50MHz internal core and 4MB of RAM! I mean, it's 3D, but 3D only, so I still have to use it paired with my old 2D card so I can run Windows 3.1 (who needs Win95 lmao) [to be fair win95 was a piece of shit]
>Who needs more than 420MB of storage? What could you possibly be storing?
>32MB; no one could possibly use that much
I'll stop you right at the start. Right now the argument stopped being that. We know they absolutely can wank 5 terabytes of power or whatever to animate realistic nose hair physics but the point is it doesn't matter, gameplay and visual styles will no longer change.
You already had a realistic action game in DMC 5, which FF16 tried to ape and brutally failed at that. FF16 actually doesn't look or feel much different than 15, we reached a real point of stagnation.
I mean we were bound to reach it at some point, diminishing returns is a concept. Devs had 'reality' as the end goal and we're comfortably close to it.
Processing power is enough for any action sequence.
And the worst is THIS ALL ASSUMES WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT GODDAMN 3D REALISTIC GAMES.
Notice all this shit is only for them. Remember when games could look like videogames or cartoons? King of fighters 13, DB Fighterz, Marvel vs Capcom?
Why the hell aren't they making more of those? You truly don't need any new machine for drawing high quality sprites / models. Talent and effort are required, that's it.
We should have RPGs and Action games looking like that by now instead of spending 5 gorillion years in Elden Ring 2 or Fallout 5 that includes realistic holotapes that recreate Elvis and make him perfectly sing any song through AI technology developed for this.
Just go back to making goddamn animated stylized games, not everything has to look like real life.
This but unironically. The computer on the lunar lander had 4KB of RAM. If 4KB is good enough to fly to the goddamn moon, it’s enough to make video games for children. devs need to learn to optimize better.
I just replied something like this, talent and effort were required back then. Notice games like Metal Slug, King of Fighters, early Ace Attorney, or even a lot of SNES / GBA games still look amazing and they were what, 32 bits?
The people of that time made the most appealing art they could with such limited technology. The Moon landing is similar to that golden era of sprites. Making something great out of so little.
Well people from current year probably also think they're doing "the absolute best they can" with the current technology, but it stopped being art. They fear looking like videogames or something.
This argument might work if the increase tech was being used for anything except making slightly more realistic ugly black women.
How about they use some of that cpu power on gameplay or even AI?
sega genesis level power is more than enough.
It absolutely isn't. Steam Deck is €370 right now, is more powerful than ps4, has bigger library and can even emulate switch games. Switch Oled is just €50 cheaper and is comparable to ps3 in specs. There's no excuse for Switch 2 to be this underpowered, especially since it's not coming out for several years more. Nintendo is israeliteing their cultist fanboys and they're just going to take it, lick the boot and thank nintendo as they always do.
>It absolutely isn't. Steam deck is €370 right now, is more powerful than ps4, has bigger library and can even emulate switch games
It isn't it is unable lto run any ps4 title at 1080p faster than the ps4 like spiderman miles morales and cyberpunk and god of war. Only the ally is faster and only like by 3-6 fps lol.
Rhe tflop/gpu power is also lower 1.6 on the steam deck vs 1.8 on the ps4. Not to mention the low memory bandwith
Like seriously wherw are you getting faster than ps4 from, I have a deck and it has a heart attack on spiderman miles morales it always freezes even at 480p upscalled with fsr.
probably because the PC version of spiderman is a PS5 port. How well does the PS4 run the PS5 version?
>probably because the PC version of spiderman is a PS5 port.
No it ia the cross gen miles morales game. Even god of war doesn't run at 1080p originalsettings at 30fps on the steam deck.
It’s cross gen but there are upgrades to the new build. It’s like a very light remaster
>is more powerful than ps4
Jesus frick, you're already wrong on the second point. Learn about memory bandwidth, battery life, cost of manufacturing, and power usage in wattage. It will help you in the long run.
>ps4
>battery life
>I can't read.
yeah we know.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT NEEDS TO HAVE PS6 SPECKS SO THE DEV COSTS GET INCREASED BY 100 FOLD
It's probably gonna feature another Tegra garbage-bin-tier processor
>Almost as powerful
Um... tendiesisters?
>graphics gays can’t wrap their head around the difference between a handheld and a home console
>Muh different platforms
Literally not an excuse. The PSP and the PS1 had a release date difference that were roughly the same between the Basedtch 2 and the PS4, yet the former's system was much, much more powerful than the latter.
Also, before you waste my time with a butthurt response
>Muh technology stagnation
Not an excuse either. Nothing excuses Basedtendo from being cheapskates and closing deals with Nshittia for the cheapest, lowest-binned Tegra techslop they can get. Frick them and frick you.
>before you waste my time with actual reason
kys
Also this
you'd have argument if the switch was the size of A 3DS
>almost
It should be more powerful
They're purposely leaving room for improvement for the 3rd switch.
Tech can only get so advanced & they're taking advantage.
fellas, I don't get it
how come consoles are thousands of times more powerful than those from 20 years ago
yet games aren't thousands of times better, but actually worse?
BUT ANON GRAFIX THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF VIDYA EVERYONE KNOWS THAT U moron
mem question but
>thousand of times more powerful
they are not
>yet games aren't thousand of times better
quadratic improvement of graphics and resolution
compared to Magnavox games improved thousandfold
Because constantly increased graphical demand means developers are spending more time and money on each game. More time and money spent on a game means if a game fails a smaller developer will go out of buisness before being able to get a second chance. So instead of taking any kind of risk they take the easiest and safest route available which is making something that's already proven to sell.
Graphics gays are killing games and they're too stupid to realize.
This, I'm surprised a supposedly smart place such as Ganker doesn't have this opinion posted more frequently. We are actively losing as gamers because of the stronger machines / graphic cards That they keep releasing.
That becomes the new standard to aim at, and it sure as hell consumes a big part of the already rushed game development.
Resident Evil Village looks amazing for example but most resources went into that, you have so much cut content, pretty empty areas with nothing to do and subpar gameplay, it's my #1 game that legit shows the dangers of maxing visuals and putting minimum effort into the actual game
it's actually shared pretty frequently. i think the peak of reasonable graphical fidelity came from MGS3, DMC3, and SH2
>opinion posted more frequently
It used to be, not only here but most gaming forums were realising the massively inflated budgets that came from ever increasing realism in graphics were severely crippling the industry but the idea that games need to become films to be "art" is what is being pushed by most major publishers/gaming media so that is all what the younger generations know and either don't realise or don't care how it is actually affecting the games.
maybe, but ai is really making huge strides right now, though. it's becoming easier and easier to make larger games now. you don't even need that many people now to make a decently-sized game, to be honest. just look at what unreal is doing to character models. you just press a button and unreal automatically generates a fully modeled character. supposedly, that stuff took weeks to do in the past. at least, if the devs are to be believed.
>but ai is really making huge strides right now
what? did i fricking stutter??
>how come consoles are thousands of times more powerful than those from 20 years ago
because every computer is essentially just a frick ton of little on and off switches in different combinations that do math, and we've managed to find ways to make those little switches smaller and smaller so we can fit MORE switches onto things. We're actually at the point now where we make these little switches with lasers and they're so tiny now they're almost the size of an atom.
Normies are moronic though and will just use this for prettier pictures nobody notices after a certain point nor do they have the hardware to fully activate. Imagine if they spent all the money and development time they do making sure a horse's balls shrink when it gets cold actually making gameplay features.
multiples reasons why
>the muh graphic argument
everything need to look like reality, same for realism, muh shrinking horse balls in the cold, but to make those, it take a long fricking time and money, the average time for AAA title is 4-5 years, half a fricking decade
>4k
meme resolution, console can't do native anyway while PC there are a minority who have enough GPU and Monitor for it, but muh 4k will sell
>corporatism and homosexualry
kinda self explanatory, corporations want more profit for doing nothing new, because risks, while SJW homosexualry want to make it how they want, even if doesn't make sense
>barely any good developers in the industry
same like above, self explanatory, all the good developers left or died, there are some left, but they don't make anything or can't
>soul
it take love and soul to make something good, same apply to Video games, back then developers did it with soul and put their heart into it, now not anymore.
There are more reasons, but not time to bring all of them on the table, pic related a crew back then, now search on google for modern gaming crew developers, it would make you throw up
4k is a meme resolution right now, but it's just a matter of time before it gets to where 1440p is now. of course, if raytracing and all that stuff is also a must, then it'll take longer, obviously.
Cus the two companies pushing graphics and performance can't even deliver stable 60fps at 1080p.
Because game devs are a million times less talented.
We don't need such power.
Ps2-ps3 is already overkill for a current games.
1. Games cost too much to make
2. You can't put adult elements in gane anymore
3. Any interesting story will be boycotted
Better hardware isn't going to solve the big problems we have with modern culture. Video games now are too expensive to produce, too easily-influenced by malicious sociopolitical interests, and modern day developers aren't generally inspired or motivated enough to produce games that could rival the quality of what was around 20-30 years ago.
Also doesn't help that hardware power is hitting the point of diminishing returns, you can only increase polygon counts, output resolution, or texture resolution and lighting fidelity so much before you can't notice a meaningful difference anymore. The CGI animation industry is starting to stagnate for similar reasons, and a lot of the creativity that flourished in the 5th and 6th generations was arguably wrought out of hardware limitations from the time that no-longer exist.
I actually have hope that this will drive creativity forward, once the wall of diminishing returns really hits - paying real hard attention to art design, for example. Ico stands up really well even now because its art direction is so fricking good, just straight beauty from start to finish.
You used to get
>aktchually they use that power to have more middle quality models on screen instead of making one hyper quality model
arguments when using that image, but that image is actually what big budget devs are doing these days.
In a way, the switch and its successors actually have a lot of leeway on this front since its using the hardware of yesteryear to make hybrid home/portable consoles means they never need to worry about reaching the apex in graphical fidelity, at the same time forcing third parties to actually putting in effort to making switch games look good as they can within its limitations instead of just dumping a hundred gigs of uncompressed assets on it and expecting it to work.
>Better hardware isn't going to solve the big problems we have with modern culture.
I hate how in every videogame you need put "gap squeeze in a small space for 30 seconds" or "forced walking sections", like in FF7R
The outcast does the walking section better imo.
Assuming it was always done for the sake of masking load times SSD tech makes it inexcusable now, I'd chock it up to being constrained by a shitty engine made with HDD's in mind or lazy devs at this point.
Graphics are a crutch for gameplay, just look in the origins for video games and you will see.
Back when graphics were pixelated garbage, developers had to work long grueling hours, coding the gameplay to ensure it was satisfying enough to keep you engaged.
-During the era of arcades, your gameplay needed to keep people pouring in quarters.
-During the NES era, your gameplay needed to keep you playing, at least till you reached the end. This was the era when just playing for high score, ended, so the game needed a ending.
-It was the same during the SNES era too, only now the gameplay needed to be better, more refined, then the NES era. Gameplay standards become more strict.
-It was during the advent of the PS1, that things started to change. The appeal of cinematic cutscenes was discovered. People existed, that wouldn't buy a game for the gameplay, but simply because the cutscenes were "so impressive".
And hence, since then, that player base grew, and the market grew with them, the player base that only is interested in games for the graphics. You'd think they died off when you could watch those graphics on youtube, but they did not. Technology grew, and made graphics easier to make. Hence why technology power grew, yet gameplay declined.
The lesson here is as follows: if you give a developer an inch worth of leeway, they will take a mile worth of laziness. The literal only way to make developers not be lazy, is to make them have no choice.
There was a good article I saw that defined this mindset, with Bayonetta 2. Platinum called Nintendo "insane perfectionists" because when they covered up gameplay glitches by making the graphics look better, Nintendo had the balls to tell them to fix the glitches instead. Platinum was offended and surprised by this. This is how standard developers are now.
im just glad its another switch and not another new gimmick
so closer to PS3, then.
tendiexisters... we lost again
>10 year difference
Original DS was basically N64 hardware level, the 3DS was PS2 level, so yeah that checks out and is consistent for the difference between home vs portable consoles. Well done homosexuals.
Can't wait for it to not have any kind of backwards compatibility, nintendo reselling all switch titles and fanboys being excited about it.
I am pretty happy with what a Switch can do now even though it is getting a bit long in the tooth. This is quite the upgrade that will allow a lot of more modern titles to be brought to the system and possibly improve the performance of current Switch games. If it has an OLED screen it just might replace my Deck for some games.
People b***h about the Switch being weak but it was the most powerful handheld for 4 years until the GPD Win 3 and 5 until the first practically available one. This Switch will have hefty competition in 2-3 or so years from new dockable PC handhelds.
What the frick is that?
Crysis running a Switch Lite(not my pic). I have that grey model and game, it actually runs really well for the potato it's running on and it's kinda cool to play it on a smallish handheld. Yeah my Deck could do it but it's a shoebox with grips.
I think the mere idea that anyone should be excited about a hanheld being able to run a 15 year old game is telling of the absolute state videogame hardware is in right now.
at least he can play it at a silky smooth 60fps 15 years later.
The chip it runs on is from 2015 so 8 years between melting all but the most powerful home PC's hardware that couldt run it on a handheld is pretty good, though the port of the game itself came 5 years after that.
Maybe I am easily impressed since I grew up with the OG Gameboy and its unlit B&W pea soup screen but buying Crysis for $10 in bed and playing it on a handheld less bulky than my childhood Gameboy was cool.
A picture displayed on a toy.
tendies will literally slop on steamy shit if their corporate overlords order them to, nothin surprising here
can you stupid homosexuals speak without dribbling memes
can you stop slopping on tendie shit like a cultist slave you are?
Hello Eric
>1 reply
its all you isnt it. fricking obsessed freak
>muh console war
Kys Pc**t
Spoiler: it's the Nintendo Switch OLED+
The steam deck is currently as powerful as a PS4 so you're telling me... Switch 2 is weaker than a steam deck?... Tendies on suicidewatch!
>Switch 2 is weaker than a steam deck?...
Likely yes, but more battery efficient(like 2 times at least) compared to steam deck
>more battery efficient
You’re just talking out of your ass unless nintendo invented a new battery tech that’s better than lithium
Nintendo invented chargeable handheld devices with the Gameboy SP. I'm sure they'll figure it out.
>The steam deck is currently as powerful as a PS4 so you're telling me...
It is not I have one are you playing god of war at original settings 1080p, frick no. Only the ally dies that at it's turbo max powet mode.
>Steam Deck
>Cost twice as much
>Battery life is basically negative
>40% bigger form factors
you all Black folk are moronic
it doesn't cost twice as much THOUGH the base level Deck is $400
Switch lite is 200 dollars.
But people always use the OLED in side-by-side comparisons you disingenuous hypocrite.
We are in the age of open platform consoles, which I think the big 3 really need to embrace.
So it's weaker than steam deck?
Switch 2, on release, will be weaker than a Gen 1 Steam Deck (with the Gen 2 Deck probably releasing 6 months later)
Should I play Metroid prime 4 on switch or deck 2?
>neither, PC
>almost
>as a PS4
>in 2024/2025
If it has BC + 60fps patches for all Switch 1 exclusives I'm all in baby
literally never ever going to happen. not in a gazillion years. nintendo makes wayyy too much money on the nostalgia crowd to ever do such a thing. and why should they? when the nintendo goys willingly buy 20 and 30 year old games for nearly full price every time nintendo comes out with a new console, why should they make the new console backwards-compatible?? that's just really really bad business sense, right there. good for the customers, but really bad for the nintendo wallet.
There's no way Switch 2 won't be backwards compatible. But I can see a world where they try to sell 60 FPS patches, and tendies would be more than happy to buy them.
>MUH GRAFFFIIIIIIIIIIXXX
Frick outta my hobby you casual trash.
>Gaming
>Hobby
What a loser.
Said the man on the videogames forum
By your metric, watching goyslop on Netflix then shitposting about it on Ganker is a hobby. Videogames are entertainment, not a hobby.
Yes.
It's already your hobby if you're here.
FRICK OFF YOU FRICKING APOLOGIST wienerSUCKERS
I've finished this shit a few days ago and the performance made it absolutely fricking atrocious to play. Constant load screens up the same, inputs being eaten due to shit framerate, and this shit is a switch EXCLUSIVE, there's no fricking alternative, you have to endure this shit.
No More Heroes 3 was another disaster, the combat ran surprisingly well on the switch, but the open world city sections were downright unplayable and demanded an actual skip button due to how fricking horribly they ran on the switch. Too fricking bad that the game was stuck on switch hell for a whole year
I don't care about graphics, but perfomance is a whole other problem
Hell, if HURRR MUH GRAPHIXXX AND MUH PERFOORMANCE doesn't matter then WHY EVEN RELEASE A FRICKIGN SWITCH 2 FOR FRICKS SAKE
Literally forcing people to upgrade JUST to fulfil their israeli agenda
>muh israelites
The israelites did nothing wrong
YOU ARE PLAYING WEEB SHIT AND DESERVE TO DIE
homie ALL SWITCH GAMES ARE WEEB SHIT YOU moron
>switch has better looking open world games then NMH3 that run better
>somehow it is switch's fault NMH3 was shit
You are moronic but all NMH3 fans are.
Doesn't change the fact that it runs objectively better on other platforms
On the switch you have to deal with switch games being downright unplayable because the hardware is shit
>games being downright unplayable
>switch has better looking open world games then NMH3 that run better
>somehow it is switch's fault NMH3 was shit
>is directly shown why this reasoning is moronic
>doubles down on it
You are moronic but all NMH3 fans are.
>switch has better looking open world games then NMH3 that run better
Aside from xenoblade, there's no other game that runs open world fine on the switch. Even goddamn shit like the new pokemon game which has literal N64 graphics still has framerate issues up the ass to the point it looks like a glitched mess
Look, devs are fricking moronic and I'd rather them release games on platformers that aren't goddamn cancer that having them release them on the switch. Yes, it's their fault, and yes, it's also the switch's fault because it makes the problem even worse
Now keep choking on corporation wiener and thank you for paying for the games I've pirated.
>gamefreak is a shit dev that was completely shown up by 1 dude writing their entire game for them so it actually works
>this is the switch's fault
You may actually be the biggest moron that has ever posted here. Like I'm not even sure you understand what technology is and think you are posting using some kind of magic or something.
>that dev is shit
>this other dev is shit
Alright let's all focus on non shit devs then....... monolith?
Yeah let's make a console with shit specs so that everyone can release unoptimized dogshit on it. Who fricking cares as long as 2~3 devs aren't moronic. As long as 1 in every 1000 games doesn't run as shit, then it's not the switch's fault
>monolith
The dev who made that game that you already said ran better then NMH3 and pokemon?
>then it's not the switch's fault
The console has shown it can have better looking open world games that run better so yes it is not the console fault that NMH3 and Pokemon are shit. The non moronic devs haven't figured out how to sneak extra ram into your console when you boot up their game and then magic it back out when you load up Pokemon.
I don't fricking care
The majority of devs are moronic and need good hardware to make the games not run like trash. That's a fact. Hell, most devs don't even give a single shit about optimization because trannies like this homosexual
will defend ANYTHING
But who fricking cares, just release new shitty outdated hardware, force existing users to upgrade hardware, and have nothing fricking change because devs don't give a shit.
Better to force moronic tendies to hack their consoles and overclock than actually releasing some decent hardware
It's funny you are going around calling people corporate wienersuckers and accusing other people of defending poor optimisation when your argument is that the switch is bad because it doesn't cover the asses of bad developers who can't optomise.
Fine, enjoy upgrading just so you can keep playing 2007 tier games at 20 FPS because you assume that every single dev is monolith tier
$500~700
Basically better and more expensive than the steam deck. I'm willing to pay that much or more. Too bad that we're going to have to pay around ~$450 + online tax just for a 5FPS boost in some random games
Anon, devs are NOT going to optimize their fricking games. With homosexuals unironically defending TOTK's perfomance and with homosexuals defending games being over 200 GB when it's filled with hundreds of language files that you don't need, devs have absolutely no fricking reason to optimize. The least Nintendo could do is release non shit hardware to compensate for devs being moronic, but that's not going to happen
You ARE going to pay for overpriced outdated hardware, you ARE going to play unoptimized garbage and you WILL like it
I'm not part of the problem, I bought a used switch and hacked it, bought XB3, didn't pay for online, I didn't support any sort of cancer unlike you Black folk. With how much gamefreak got away with, I absolutely hope that the next pokeshit game straight up bricks the hardware, braindead tendies deserve it
>Basically better and more expensive than the steam deck.
People won't spend that much money on a console. It will just have the same power as a steam deck but run more efficently.
>Too bad that we're going to have to pay around ~$450
Complain that your average normalgay won't spend 600-700 dollars on a console that would have ps4 performance and 1 hour battery life at best.
>People won't spend that much money on a console
(You)
See you at the price reveal
>he actually believe the average person is willing to spend half a grand on a handheld
>even at good economic times
>and especially during bad economic times with rampant inflation
That's a good one, you should do stand up comedy.
>Fine, enjoy upgrading just so you can keep playing 2007 tier games at 20 FPS because you assume that every single dev is monolith tier
You could just stop posting and making an idiot of yourself instead of trying to change the subject but ok.
>I'm not part of the problem
You are straight up defending big corporations doing lazy work.
You're saying decent hardware, what is "decent hardware" you and how much are you willing to pay for it?
> to hack their consoles and overclock than actually releasing some decent hardware
Handhelds will never have decent hardware, the rog ally is barely faster than a ps4 and has 30 minutes of battery life when gaming.
You're literally arguing for better hardware to compensate for and enable shitty devs.
You are everything wrong with modern consoles and games.
>Even goddamn shit like the new pokemon game which has literal N64 graphics still has framerate issues up the ass to the point it looks like a glitched mess
What's your point?
GF devs are absolute shit, if the new pokemon games were on the pc running on a damn super computer they would still run like shit and glitch out the ass, because the GF devs are shit.
If tears of the kingdom and xenoblade games run as well as they do on the system, the problem isn't the system.
>totk
>runs well
Die
Yes
Stop being such a hyperbolic homosexual that thinks anything dipping below 59.99fps for a tenth of a second is "unplayable".
>almost
Why do people expect a handheld to have as much power as a ps5 or xbox series?
I dont but I do expect it to be at least a bit better than a PS4 than came out in 2013
>I dont but I do expect it to be at least a bit better than a PS4 than came out in 2013
Only the ally is better than that costs £700.
This is exactly what people were saying about the switch and the ps3 back in 2017
I expect a closed platform that will cost as much as a Steam Deck to function as the equivalent as the Steam Deck.
>I expect a closed platform that will cost as much as a Steam Deck to function as the equivalent as the Steam Deck.
It does though, the steam deck isn't as powerful as a ps4. Only the ally is in gaming.
It’s not only a handheld you Reddit homosexual real gamers play on their tv, they could at least make the dock stronger to the point it will look much better on a tv
are you willingly to pay for the extra hardware in the dock that that to work?
Nintendo Switch 2023 so far
January:
>Fire Emblem Engage
February:
>Metroid Prime Remastered
>Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Expansion Pass Wave 3
>Kirby’s Return to Dream Land Deluxe
>Splatoon 3 Expansion Pass Wave 1 - Inkopolis
March:
>Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass [Wave 4]
>Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon
>You Are Already Thin! Fitness Boxing Fist of the North Star
April:
>Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp
May:
>The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
June:
>Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope - DLC 2: The Last Spark Hunter
>Pikmin HD
>Pikmin 2 HD
>Everybody 1-2-Switch
>Master Detective Archives: RAIN CODE
July:
>Manic Mechanics
>Pikmin 4
>Disney Illusion Island
September:
>Baten Kaitos I & II HD Remaster
October:
>Detective Pikachu Returns
>Super Mario Bros. Wonder
November:
>Fashion Dreamer
>WarioWare: Move It!
>Super Mario RPG Remake
December:
>Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince
Announced for 2023:
>FANTASY LIFE i: The Girl Who Steals Time
>Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass [Wave 5]
>Natsu-Mon! 20th Century Summer Vacation
>Pokémon Scarlet & Violet: The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero
>Samba de Amigo: Party Central
Beyond:
>Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon Remaster
>Metroid Prime 4
>Unnamed Princess Peach game
>Professor Layton and The New World of Steam
>Resident Evil Outrage aka Revelations 3
Feels good lads
>SMTV below BDSP and Violet
>Dread in Mid
So close yet so far
What do you mean, feels good man. I can't underatand how any of those titles can make you excited. Even though I have a Switch I am going to skip all of them.
You're jaded and your dopamine receptors are fried.
>listing DLC
You guys would murder anyone else for this.
January:
>Fire Emblem Engage
February:
March:
>Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon
April:
May:
>The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
June:
>Master Detective Archives: RAIN CODE
July:
>Pikmin 4
September:
October:
>Detective Pikachu Returns
>Super Mario Bros. Wonder
November:
>WarioWare: Move It!
December:
>Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince
Announced for 2023:
>Samba de Amigo: Party Central
Beyond:
>Metroid Prime 4
>Unnamed Princess Peach game
>Professor Layton and The New World of Steam
**with all instances of DLC, ports, remakes, and shovelware removed
THIS is what you guys call the savior of modern gaming? Lol.
Please
God
Allah
Jhwe
Odin
Shiva
Buddha
Perun
Please Nintendo
PLEASE
MAKE A CONSOLE LIKE THE SWITCH
A HYBRID CONSOLE CALLED SIPER SWITCH LIKE THE SUPER NINTENDO
DONT MAKE ANYTHING STUPID NO HOME ALONE CONSOLE WITH SHITTY STATS JUST A HYBRID CONSOLE WHERE I CAN USE JOY CONS AND SWITCH GAMES
PLEAAAAAAAASE
nice of you to also include my god. real inclusive and liberal of you.
Ok
Don't care about tendie shit but I can't wait.
I'm going to scalp this shit so fricking hard and resell it to tendies twice the price after a year when trannies finished jailbreaking this shit.
I'm sure the 100 bucks profit will be worth it
>says Activitision
Bobby literally said he speculated. Not confirmed. Clickbait strikes again.
Just give me more waifu games and I'll probably buy it
For all the shit I love to give to Nintendo, they're the only ones who haven't fully caved to ESG (yet). Imagine how cucked the gaming industry is nowadays that fricking Nintendo is the last haven for horny heterosexual teenager boys.
so long as totk is a crisp 1080p perhaps 30 fps i'm so fricking hyped
Why is this surprising? Switch is around xbox360 tier so obviously the next console would be around ps4 tier.
the shitch is about as powerful as a PS2
holy soul
Forced soul*
More like forced wiener in your mouth boy
Disgusting homosexual freak
What was that? Couldn't hear ya with my schlong halfway down ya throat son
Don't be silly. The Switch is like a slightly more powerful xbox 360. Compare stuff like dragons dogma and skyrim on 360 vs switch.
It's hard to say if the hardware itself (CPU and GPU) is faster, but the Switch has a massive advantage compared to 7th gen consoles: 4x the amount of memory.
tendies truly are the lowest, most childish, most corporate bootlicking low iq autistic scum
>tfw this is going to be more expensive than the series s and possibly same price as a digital ps5
When Switch 2 Releases, it means that they FAILED to beat the sale numbers of the Playstation 2.
Playstation 2 still the #1 sold console of all time.
Get mad Nintendo cucks.
over a billion switches have sold
no they haven't you child brained moron. there are only 9bil people on the planet, and the majority of them live in shithole nations where being able to afford rice, and beans is a luxury you stupid fool. they've sold 125mil as of '23 you stupid fricking Black person.
That’s assuming they immediately cease production and sales of the original. The NES was sold past the SNES up to the time the N64 came out.
Hell the ps2 was still in production and selling all the way until... 2009?
There was even a point that the ps2 was outselling the ps3. lol
I think some people have forgotten how absolutely disastrous the ps3 launch was.
Never forget.
>the new switch still won't be powerful enough to run God of War, a game the deck can
Yikes
Oh nooooooooo I can't play a shit game what will I doooooo 🙁
That might be a smart move actually.
Wouldn't this basically be a giga frick you to PS5?
Like if you were making a game you'd probably decide not to bother with making it PS5 exclusive, because if you made it for PS4 it'd probably already be able to go straight to Switch. It pretty much means most devs will just stick with PS4 like quality games rather then bother going above.
>tendo copying valve now
Is there no end to their thievery
ANY reason to buy the switch 2 over a steam deck if the switch 2 doesn't have backwards compatibility? Like, you're pretty much comparing a system with 3 games against a system with over a billion games at that point
>if the switch 2 doesn't have backwards compatibility?
You kidding, right? R-right?
Have they said anything about that?
Anon you fricking moron, are you unironically thinking that nintendo won't kill backwards compatibility as an excuse to resell totk?
The Wii U had backwards compatibility + VC and it flopped hard. The switch didn't have backwards compatibility and it had a shitty subscription service "VC" and it's a colossal success. There's no reason to not be fricking israeli since that's always the winning move
The switch 2 exclusives, assuming the Steam deck can't play them. If it can though.... most people won't know Steamdeck can do that. Otherwise that'd be the only console to buy
Nah, the Steam Deck won't be able to emulate Switch 2 games, since these two machines will probably be very close in performance. You need a significantly faster PC in order to emulate a console. I'm talking 10x or more, so a modern desktop PC should be able to.
maybe, but people were saying the same thing when yuzu came out, and cemu was a thing, and in reality if you were able to run cemu you could more than likely comfortably run yuzu, especially now with all the updates that have been made to the emulator.
>hacked switch
>overclocked
>60fps patch mods
Fricking mindblowing just how games like zelda totk can hit 60fps on this thing with a oc.
If its close to PS4 in terms of being a but worse then thats pathetic but if its close to PS4 in terms of being slightly better then thats good. So if it is around PS4 pro tier then I think thats good. You could make shitty versions of PS5 and Series X versions of games run on PS4 pro tier hardware as long as the Switch 2 uses fast solid state storage. Like honestly what games from the last 3 years would not run on PS4 pro with lower textures and frame rate and so on.
Almost all games except the handful of PS5 exclusives came out on PS4 already. So it should make multi plats way easier if the power is comparable to PS4.
It being only base ps4 tier would still be a bit shit. If its Ps4 Pro tier then that would be great as that would easily be able to run downgraded versions of the vast majority of games people care about I would say. Like they could probably get a shitter version of Starfield to run on PS4 pro tier hardware and that would sell frick loads.
Honestly making ports should be legally mandatory, it's stupid how games on PC can simply be set to Low settings and run on older machines but for consoles the devs can simply decide to not move the graphics slider to the left, despite it being totally possible, and you simply don't get your game in the previous Gen.
PS4 Pro is the Low Settings version of PS5 so it'll forever be able to run the same games if they just bothered lowering the performance / graphics, which is possible on pc.
so are we finally gonna get a zelda/mario with next gen graphics in the future that wont be held back by shitty tech?
No I suspect they will stick with gamecube tier graphics and just use the power for other things like physics or whatever.
you must be the most pessimistic nintenguy on the planet or something like why the frick would you even think like that?
i don't have a switch so i'm glad the time has finally come to get a handheld
>caring about power in a handheld
as long as its passively cooled im sold, it wont tho cuz its gonna be a hybrid shitfest again
yeah nice, i´ll enjoy the 2 hours battery lifespan on my handheld with loud ass fans, exactly what i needed
Isn't the steamdeck also about as powerful as a PS4? I just ordered one, but it hasn't arrived yet. I'm totally fine with that though because I've only been interested in a handful of games made during the ps4 era (Bloodborne, Spiderman, and Elden Ring) and after, and I really don't feel like I'm missing out.
Also I'm really convinced now the only people that play on consoles and haven't moved to PC are children that don't know any better. All my coworkers are normies as frick but they all have PCs. I think only one of them owns a PS5 and he barely plays games
>PS4 is from 2013
>tendie troonies will have a 2013-tier console in 2025
>they think it's a victory
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH KEEP BEING MINDLESS SLAVES TO BLACKROCK, GOYS
That is genuinely really good. There’s hardly any notices jump in power between PS4 & PS5; diminishing returns are starting to hit hard so PS4-level seems ideal for a console that’s half-handheld
>PS4 & PS5
Well, on paper the jump is huge. In practice we've been stuck in cross-gen hell for the last three years. And when a next-gen exclusive comes out, it's Final Fantasy 16 that looks and runs worse than said cross-gen games.
You can buy hall analog sticks and replace them yourself, no need to wait for Nintendo. https://www.gulikit.com/productinfo/945307.html
with ps4 gen we were close of reaching the peak of traditional graphics, next step will be photo realism but ps5 won't be able to deliver it. this gen will be mostly ps4 tier graphics but with better physics, more particles, more realistic shadows etc. and with 60 fps in 4k like returnal and also much much bigger open world maps. if switch 2 gets to ps4 performance level it will probably be more than enough power for nintendo to make its games look like pixar movies.
Any additional power will be used by devs for graphics homosexualry. I'd rather the switch 2 not even be any stronger hardware wise just better build quality for the controllers.
TENDIE SISTERS WE KEPT SAYING THAT STEAM DECK IS WORTHLESS EVEN THOUGH IT'S AS POWERFUL AS PS4 BUT NOW WE WANT A HANDHELD PS4? WHY ARE WE SO HYPOCRITE AND INSUFFERABLE?
Nintendo has a track record of success.
Steam has a track record of failure (controller sucks, vr headset sucks).
So yes, it's literally okay when Nintendo does it.
the VR sold well enough and the Deck is selling like hot cakes now
>THAT STEAM DECK IS WORTHLESS EVEN THOUGH IT'S AS POWERFUL AS PS4
It really isn't, it can't render aaa ps4 games like spiderman at 1080p
the mental gymnastics of tendie troonies
>N64: CDs are shit, cartridge are better.
>GC: mini-CDs are great, DVDs are shit
>Wii: who need games? i want to stay fit with virtual sports
>Switch: who the frick cares about graphics, FPS and processor power? 5fps @720p is more than enough lol you sure like movie games LOL XD
>Switch 2: Actually, PS4 with 60fps and 1080p is based and awesome I can't wait to play games at good graphics lel xD
tendies are cultists and brand worshippers
>this level of obsession
The worst part is you just know it's one anon making all these posts trying to bait replies.
>facts are bait because they exposes me being a tendie hypocrite
lol
weird flex. Everyone on the sex offender registry owns a PC. (Not a coincidence.)
>Almost as powerful as a PS4
Cheap console confirmed. At least it's better than nothing. The Switch was barely more powerful than the 360 and PS3. It sucks that Nintendo is stuck in the past with their hardware.
>Cheap console confirmed
Yeah, no. It will cost as much as a new gaming laptop in my country. The current Switch is still selling for $400 plus over here.
>The current Switch is still selling for $400 plus over here.
My condolences, fren.
What are the big games from the last 3 years of PS5 and Series X that would not run on PS4 ish hardware with lower settings considering I assume the Switch 2 will have a faster storage medium than what the PS4 had.
Flight Simulator.
I assume people wouldn't want to play a flight sim on a portable machine. Isnt the point to play sitting in front of a big screen using a flight stick and whatnot?
>almost as powerful
Yikes.
>muh DLSS
I bet it will just be DLSS2 so games will still be CPU bottlenecked.
>I bet it will just be DLSS2 so games will still be CPU bottlenecked.
If the CPU is at least on newer/more modern architecture, even if the clockspeeds still aren't high, you'll get a lot more oomph out of it
Why does anyone care? You just buy Nintendo hardware to play Zelda and Metroid and Mario. Nobody buys 3rd party games on Nintendo. So their hardware power is mostly irrelevant
damn, this is pretty disappointing, to be honest. i know nintendo isn't really in the "red sea" business anymore, as they themselves say it, but still. i'm thinking that it definitely ought to be as powerful as a ps4 because it's fitting for nintendo to be one generation behind, tech-wise, that's all fine ad dandy, but two generations?? that's just too much, i think. nintendo can sail the blue seas all they want, as they say, but not to this extent, i think. this is just too much.
tendies when discussing retro games
>uhhh why do others like non nintendo systems? they were underpowered shit!
tendies when discussing current games
>who cares about graphics?
Tendie here. Sega had some fun games and the PS1 & 2 mog the everloving shit out of the N64 and Gamecube.
>>who cares about graphics?
Well, more like who cares about graphical fidelity. There are modern games that look worse than Mega Man on the NES because while it was severely limited it had a cohesive artstyle that some modern games don't. I'd much rather devs aim to make something look like a PS3 game with a good art style than going for the most detailed bland realism they can every time.
Tendie here. I don't consider anything from before the PS2 'underpowered'. It was what it was, and some incredible games came out on those machines to the point that the PSX has its technical limitations as a fricking indie aesthetic now.
How are people seriously okay with how weak Nintendo hardware has constantly been? It's not nearly cheap enough to compensate for it and the game prices escpecially negate any savings you could make. My last Nintendo console was the GC since it could actually keep up with the competition at the time.
I'm fine with weak hardware, the Switch is more than fast enough. The issue is price: they're selling a tablet from 2015 for $300, and games cost $60, and you have to subscribe to play online.
Keeping up with the competition just means pseudo photo realism borefests. I like the weak hardware because it encourages simple cartoon graphics with better style.
>How are people seriously okay with how weak Nintendo hardware has constantly been?
Aaa graphics mean nothing atm
Like come on when next gen games run at 720p 45fps on the ps5, it nust seems like a meme.
Neverthless handhelds are always weak. Even the ally
I imagine one reason Nintendo likes dragging out previous gen hardware is to capitalize on developer experience with a given spec. They will have already spent years working within the limitations of the hardware so developers can make the most out of it rather than spend a couple of years learning and warming up to a sudden increase in horsepower. I say this thinking about Nintendo first-parties, which tend to look and perform fricking stellar for whatever hardware they're on.
>Change Steam name to Activision
>Go around saying moronic shit
>"Journalists" can now legally quote Activision as saying things
To the anons wanting nintendo to use more powerful hardware. How much are you willing to PAY for it?
>all this power and Pokémon will still run like shit somehow
A fricking shame, Stadium and Revolutions were better like 15 years ago
It's true. You could give Gamefreak a 10th gen console to play with and they'd churn out something that looked like it came out two gens ago while running below 30fps with a shit ton of glitches and bugs.
There's an entire generation of people who entered into gaming with the 360/PS3 and don't understand how much of a gulf of progress there was before then. All they've seen is increments and graphical gimmicks. They don't understand why being PS4 level is more than enough, because leaps that would actually improve what a game is capable of all ended about a decade ago.
Same generation that buys new phones as they come out, even worse, iPhones, when frankly any mid phone from 2012~2016 should run whatever apps people enjoy and let them surf the web.
It's just consumerism and
>They released it so I guess it's time to upgrade
>as strong as a ps4
sounds bullshit but I believe it. Nintendo would never lie
>almost
>to a last generation system
We're never getting equal games to the competition, are we?
It's a claim made by the activision CEO. He has no real info anyway, it's just one of the people under him told him that. Even he doesn't completely believe what he reiterated.
Isn't steam deck already this powerful plus it plays teddies games?
Yeah, more or less. But Nintendo won't release a Switch successor that costs £549 RRP day one, I'd imagine. I'd assume it'll also be backwards compatible with the Switch library.
Basically, though I'm guessing the battery life on the switch 2 and fans will be better
Yea
Were people seriously expecting it to have modern hardware while somehow magically being reasonably priced?
The switch used decade old hardware when it came out too and was the most powerful tablet at the time of release, but they also just barely got the price point to $300.
And it's still outselling everything.
They're not competing with pure power and haven't in a long time.
>Were people seriously expecting it to have modern hardware
Don't you mean high end hardware, only the rog ally is faster than a ps4 in actual games, the steam deck isn't that. Nintendo would have to make their handheld extremely overpriced to just hit that range.
I'm guessing inflation amd incremental updates on arm just mean that the switch won't be uber powerful for an cheap price.
You're almost right. It wasn't the most powerful tablet at the time, it was just a gaming-focused chip in a form factor that doesn't normally HAVE those. You've got some moron here somewhere going on about the Snapdragon 8, but that's not actually gaming-oriented so it wouldn't really be able to do what the Switch 2 will do, comparatively effortlessly.
Holy shit
PS4 with Nintendo levels of optimization is going to be running games at 1440p 60fps for things like Splatoon or Mario, and 1440p 30fps for Zelda and the like.
And, if the rumors about it having DLSS2 are true, it could very well be hitting 4K after upscaling
1080p + 60 FPS is enough for me for gaming time
1440p + 144 fps would be kino
>1440p + 144 fps would be kino
The ps5 and xbox series x can't do that.
>Switch 2: Actually, PS4 with 60fps and 1080p is based and awesome I can't wait to play games at good graphics lel xD
Eh I think 1080p is all that is needed on a handheld tbh.
>or at the VERY LEAST match the specs of a Steam Deck.
1 the steam deck is slower than a series s and a ps4. The switch will basically just be as powerful as a steam deck, just more efficent
>The Switch wasn't even that far behind a PS4 so this would be a pitiful upgrade.
Only the rog ally is faster than a ps4 in actual games like god of war, but even then only a 3fps difference.
Yes and even the ally has the same power as a ps4. Overall handhelds are too weak.
>The ps5 and xbox series x can't do that.
Most games could if they toned down the realistic graphics. The PS5/XBX can run Quake 3 at 1440p+144fps. I'd say these console can run almost every game from the PS3/X360 era at 1440p+144fps.
The trick is they literally just need to support fully modern HDMI outputs. It's one of those things they inexplicably cheaped out on before but will probably do better on this time around.
As for 144 fps, I think some devs like Shin'en might be able to do it but everyone else will be sticking with 1080p60 or 1440p30 on any theoretical Switch 2
It's gonna be a loooooooong fricking console generation for Nintendo if it can't match the specs of an Xbox Series S... or at the VERY LEAST match the specs of a Steam Deck.
The Switch wasn't even that far behind a PS4 so this would be a pitiful upgrade. Even less of a tech leap than between the Wii U and Switch.
Should also be noted that the PS4 and Xbone's hardware wasn't that impressive even when it was new, it was roughly equivalent to a mid-high range PC from 2009 or 2010 and it regularly got shit-on since you could build a PC that would run circles around it for close to the same price if you were thrifty. That's what necessitated the Pro consoles.
pokemon will still run at 20fps with glitchy textures and pop ins
>pokemon will still run at 20fps with glitchy textures and pop ins
so it will still be full of soul?
good to know
>says Activision boss
>Activision
>off all places, getting an Early Dev Kit
>Breaking NDA under oath
booby would be under 3 different lawsuits from nintendo if his comment were true
The devkits have gone out to multiple places already, and given Bobby was on the stand saying skipping the Switch was a misstep for Activision, I wouldn't be surprised if Acti requested to be high on the list.
>The devkits have gone out to multiple places already
I can accept that. what I dont believe is Activision is one of the Devs granted an early kit. Ill believe more Microsoft getting one that Activision
Microsoft I imagine absolutely do, because Minecraft needs to be on it.
Nda probably has shit about court testimony and government agency requests.
>Nda probably has shit about court testimony and government agency requests.
lol no.
but lets say it does.
He was never directly asked about Switch future capabilities. so still NDA break.
again: I call it off hand "speculation" comment, AT BEST.
Lets keep pushing graphics on all platforms. I want to wait 20 years for a single game in series and have never ending droughts.
>Forbiden West
>leaked Dev Cost
>at 70$ per sale, game wont break even until 9 millions unit sold
now wonder Sony is dying and desperate to keep CoD under hte current arrangement. their in house projects are money sink of have razor thin margins at best.
It is not just a Sony issue. Graphics are destroying AAA and most AA gaming because they are driving up development costs and extending develpment times. The issue has been here since the PS4 / Xbox One era. Now people are really starting to notice it. We are almost 3 years into the current console generation. There would be jack shit to play if they did not have backwards compatibility.
>The issue has been here since the PS4 / Xbox One era.
Did you not notice the absolute blood bath of developers collapsing in the PS3/360 era?
Fun if true. Nintendo prefers the cheaper smaller less powerful console anyway, so a handheld console about the power of a PS4 would be a pretty nice addition.
Nintendo already knows that they don't have to provide any actual hardware power, just more games and ports
They do. You couldn't find a better mobile chip in 2017 with whole package at $300
There are plenty of phones that were capable of matching a Switch in 2017 at a budget price
Of course though there are no real games on mobile and only gachashit
>There are plenty of phones that were capable of matching a Switch in 2017 at a budget price
Lol frick no, mobile phones were only abke to run decent is games like asphalt 9 in 2019 ( 720p 30fps with dips)and even then they ran it at a worse framerate than the switch, which ran asphalt 9 at 720p 60fps.
There is no switch 2.
Get over it
moron
The power of the Switch or Nintendo consoles in general isn't really the draw for me. I just like having a portable for RPGs and some fun Nintendo games.
Why do Nintendofans always go on the "only want muh photrealism" bullshit argument as if a game looking photorealistic is the only benefit non dogshit hardware has? They also blantantly ignore the tons of stylized games that look and run 100x better than Nintendo's.
>bullshit argument as if a game looking photorealistic is the only benefit non dogshit hardware has
Because that is all developers use it for, that and to brute force shit so they don't have to optimise anymore.
Or do you think the pajeets that made the latest slop you played somehow figured out how to code better AI or suddenly learned how to design better gameplay then the last 20 games the convey belt they work on shat out?
Honest question for the technerds is a current gen Samsung/Iphone stronger than a ps4?
>Honest question for the technerds is a current gen Samsung/Iphone stronger than a ps4?
No, the 8 gen 2 has around the same graphical horsepower as a steam deck or rog ally at 15 watts. The a16 bionic is slightly slowr.
Only the apple m1 (15 watts) has ps4 power(around the same power as the rog ally at max wattage) And the m2 is almost double that.
Wowowoweeee cucktendo shitch 2 can run 10 year old games now time to celebrate with a nice glass of onions milk! Cheers!
absolutely mindbroken
>absolutely mindbroken
That's how I unironically view anyone who is still playing tendie shit. Imagine being such a pathetic embarrassment, holy shit.
The PS4 has Monster Hunter World. Will the Switch 2 be able to run MH6?
Cross-Platform is one of the single most requested features for Mon Hun
post yfw you didn't give israelitetendo a single cent in your entire life
>inb4 cope incoming
The switch 2 will literally be unhackable
>implying
Just complain that a game's dialogue is icky and trannies will hack that piece of shit asap just so they can release censorship mods
Nintendo never learn
How much stronger is the PS4’s processor? That’s really all that matters.
iirc the Nvidia leak's SoC given for the Switch 2 runs circles around PS4 in the CPU department, it is overall stronger than the PS4 but we can expect it to be downclocked since the Switch itself is
How mentally disabled you have to be to play Nintendo garbage past 16yo?
Ram and Processor and Storage medium speed will be a lot better than PS4 but the gpu wont. Thoughts?
>Thoughts?
Nintendo is garbage.
you seem to be quite deranged tbh
>seeing things for what they are is being deranged
OK subversive israelite.
with the better CPU so long as it's not a HUGE huge bottleneck it should be more than fine, especially considering it's a handheld we're talking about
upclocking for docking could more than make up the difference if the leak specs are to be believed