>Day 1 DLC
>Microtransactions
>Deluxe editions
>Preorder bonuses
>Online DRM
>$70 "AAA" games
>$40 "Indie" games
>Digital costs the same as physical
>No discs or manuals in cases anymore
>Early Access abandonware
>Twitch streamers get to play first
>Game journalists still allowed to lie
>Endless cutscenes to bloat playtime
>Battle passes
>No refunds anywhere but Steam
>Skinner box autism
>Selling a previously free game for like $30+tip
>"""HD""" Remasters which add literally nothing
>Delisting games and shutting down servers
>200 GB install sizes regardless of hardware
Gaming is dead. Billions must uninstall.
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We should have taught our children how to not fall for corporate tricks, but here we are, subjected to it for so many long we're completely defenseless to it.
We tried to spread the word. Problem is low iq frickwads shamed people using rediculous arguments like ",what are you poor?" "Its only cosmetic, you dont have to buy it" and "dev's need this stuff because games cost so much to make." Its only going to get worse too.
This is why as a millenial I don't shit on zoomers as much as others do. It was our generation that bought the fricking horse armor. Zoomers never got a chance to see how things could be better
>It was our generation that bought the fricking horse armor
You are disgustingly right.
This is like frightened boomers telling kids "don't believe everything you read on the internet" when in 2023 the average boomers daily consumption of Facebook, Fox News, and Ticker Carlson propaganda would make 1940s fascists blush.
>Tells people to not believe everything on the internet
>Believes everything their cult says
Like pottery.
Bethesda games
arcades
any trading card game that has random packs
also, is the original vidya scam
I only agree with the TCG point if you have to pay actual money for the packs. I've been really into card games for about a decade or so, and all the ones I've played had cheap-ass packs that you can buy with in-game currency that you can earn really damn fast, or they had player driven auctions or trades.
HEX, External, Duelyst, Shadowverse, and especially Infinity Wars we're really good at this. Aside from one instance where I spent about $10 on Infinity Wars cosmetics to flex on gays in ranked, I've never spent a penny on the games and still managed to put together multiple richgay competitive decks in each of them.
I really miss Infinity Wars and Duelyst.
bonuses
imho if they are just cosmetics they are fine
>>Game journalists
doesn't exist, only grifters and frauds
>>200 GB
hmmm imagine if we need to buy our games on a seperate container, maybe something like an usb or a cd perhaps....
> pre-order cosmetics
Cosmetics use to be unlockables/
I also hate how every cosmetic needs to be paid for, it's just the lesser evil of the bunch
nowadays there is no fun allowed anyways
>no cheat codes
>no big head mode
>Selling a previously free game for like $30+tip
Plague Inc. is the only one I can think of right now. What else is there?
the entirety of Nintendo's virtual console sales
Aren't those all like 5-10 bucks?
Yep,
No, see, now half of them are exclusive to their "premium" online subscription service.
You cannot buy them. Just pay in perpetuity.
How were those games free? Aren't they just old nintendo console games. You think they didn't cost anything on release?
Between their original release and the wii they became devalued to the point of being bundled into unrelated games like Animal Crossing.
Are you fricking stupid?
So let me get this straight because you had to BUY Animal Crossing you think those NES games were free?
Keep in mind that four of them were unlocked with the e-reader which required no less than three additional add ons.
taxes
sexualized men being replaced by sexualized women
50$ AAA was already a scam
20$ Indie is a complete joke, let alone 30 and 40
You also forgot "support the dev" scam
How about
>Paying to connect to the internet your ISP already bills you for
No idea how consolegays fell for that one.
Did people even make a big deal about that when it first became a thing? Seems like people just lied down and took it from the start.
they basically paid for stat tracking and not-so-instant-messaging
I never paid subscriptions to sony, still dont. But sadly started for nintendo switch. Id do anything to go back to free internet and their trailer got 6 million dislikes and they still didnt change
I think battle passes are the most evil one by far.
>buy this thing for $10, it'll get you a bunch of items!
>oh, but you have to EARN them
>you're paying us for the opportunity to play our game like a job, ignoring other games in the process
>and if you don't get everything by the end of the season too bad your money is ours
I want to find the man who invented the Battle Pass and snap his neck. The crunch would be satisfying, I think.
>lazily recolor skins
>give digital rewards
>that'll be 10$
>yeah lets do that again in 4 months
>no real new content
it's just cancerous
I like battle passes because they are often in tandem with a free rewards. You're already earning rewards, and if you pay you get more. I never bought a pass, but it's largely harmless because it usually means more free stuff.
>buying a battlepass gets you free stuff guise
Who's gonna tell him?
>paying for a battle pass
>free stuff
Anon, how fricking moronic can you be? Holy shit. ITS NOT FREE IF YOU PAY FOR IT
>durr all I had to do was give the wagie at subway $10 and I got a free sandwich! Free!!!
Are you moron? The only thing I said was free were the rewards you get outside of the battle pass.
Motherfricker, stop embarrassing yourself.
Jesus fricking wept.
> ITS NOT FREE IF YOU PAY FOR IT
idk man, how about you be less moronic. whatever your stupid response was has nothing to do with what I said, and I'll just leave it that.
This Anon gets it. Heed his advice.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is bait. Enjoy your (You)
if you work you get free food right?
>Play a game because you like it
Wow fun!
>Play the same game but now it has a battle pass
UGH! I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M WORKING SO HARD ON THIS GAME AND ALL YOU GAVE ME WAS A RECOLORED DEFAULT OUTFIT??? I'M BEING EXPLOITED!!
Why does this place attract idiots like this
have a nice day
bait
I love how many functionally illiterate people this post exposed.
Dude, you got btfo, stop replying to yourself. It's embarrassing.
The only thing btfo'd is ur mums pussy lmao
He's wrong for many reasons but he did not write what illiterate cretins like
and
think he did.
Good fricking goy
Battle Passes only work out for the most casual of casual players, like "I only have 2 hours to play a week I can't believe video games can be free these days!" levels of casual. Any invested player is going to have to resist layers of psychological manipulation or be exploited tenfold in exchange for a "free" game. It's free in the same sense your first hit of crack is free.
I'm fine with battlepasses if they don't have an expiration date on when you can buy/finish them and the challenges attached to it are actually interesting, aren't tedious (e.g. halo infinite where half of them are "win 5 games of the least fun side gamemode ever invented"), and aren't tied to a daily or weekly timer.
At that point it's just a decently priced cosmetics bundle that gives you some interesting things to try to do while playing the game
Tf2 is the only example I can think of that did it right like this though
>battle passes will now be fully unlocked with in game currency you can earn for free
>time sensitive 30 days to complete or miss on rewards
Are you winning son?
transitioning
Patches.
It's basically become the norm to release the game unpolished and bugged to frick and slowly fixing it after the premiere, but it's a complete fricking scam from start to finish and the video game industry in the only one where publishers can get away with putting out what is clearly a faulty product.
Age of consent
What about when they advertise a game in a trailer and the final product looks worse graphically than how it did
Exclusives, in any form.
>shutting down servers
what do you expect them to do?
Release a server client so players can host their own
-offline versions with no DRM
-LAN settings
-server host files
all three of those options cause heart attacks in israelite managers and CEOs though.
insurance
steam
paying for online in consoles
mmo subscriptions
>buy WoW and the expansion for $60 each
>after waiting forever for it to install, learn I have to pay even more money to actually PLAY THE GAME I PURCHASED
I'm still mad
Wow expansions used to come with 30 days of gametime. They israeliteed you out of it
>Steam
>Ctrl + f "gacha"
>0 results
Also get CreamAPI if you don't want to pay for DLC.
No, Steam won't ban you for using it.
Yes, you'll get false-positives from your firewall.
Creamapi isn't working for me on a game so I'm trying greenluma and it's kind of a pain in the ass.
>shop is okay if it's just cosmetics
Frick you. Cosmetics are part of the game.
Yeah, what happened to actually earning that content through gameplay instead of buying it? Dragon Quest XI is a good example.
>first release the game normally
>then force people to buy a 2nd version for full price if they want the updated content (DQXI S)
>this comes with a bunch of new costumes, something rarely seen in DQ besides in IX (which had DLC you can't get anymore)
Now that 2 games in a row have had DLC (I'm not sure if X does because it's Japan only), it has lubed up the fanbase's rectums for the fricking that is coming with the new Monsters game, and probably XII.
>Early Access abandonware
It's not just that early access games get abandoned, it's that ALL games are early access now. There is a simple truth that 99% of consumers refuse to see:
>If the game you purchased has critical bugs that need a mandatory patch, it is untested and effectively early access.
>If the game is regularly getting patches and updates for bugs and content, it is early access.
>YOU PAID money to do quality assurance for the game's developers.
>Quality assurance is a something COMPANIES PAY for historically.
Not only should early access games be free, you deserve the right to be paid for playing them. This goes for probably 90% of the games released in the last decade that are technically broken or missing tons of content if you merely buy a disc and play online, or play the 1.0 version.
Stop doing unpaid labor for these companies. You know what else? Stop talking about bad games. Corporations are leaking games on purpose, faking prosecution of leakers who are paid shills/interns, even if the leak looks "bad". Why? Because any publicity is GOOD publicity. The worst thing that could happen to a game is no one talks about it, no one knows it exists.
You are an UNPAID MARKETING AGENT.
You know, I was about to laugh at you for saying players should be paid for playing early access games, but you make a pretty good point overall. I can get behind this.
I wouldn't take it that far if weren't for that fact that pretty much EVERYTHING requires a downloaded patch. Just about nothing is released in a finished state.
>but anon, old games were sometimes unfinished!
Suren but it's pretty obvious they were mostly complete. There were plenty of nickel and dime israeliteing tactics back then, from arcade coin-eaters to Sonic 3&Knuckles proto-DLC, but it was rare. It's the industry pervading prevalence of the scam that makes it so infuriating.
What about betas? Blizzard has been cheaping out on QA for so long with beta access. Again, you should be paid for bug testing. Some will respond
>but anon, you aren't expected to bug test in beta, it's just to spread the game through word of mouth!
Oh? So, like I said in my last post, it's about being an UNPAID MARKETING SHILL? You should be getting paid at least US minimum wage to play early access/beta. The fact you pay for it is pathetic and should make your blood boil.
Imagine paying the school bully to get beat up.
Imagine paying for the privelege of writing some rich kid's essay in college.
Imagine paying to massage the landwhale HR lady's feet after work (and she has fungus).
Stop degrading yourself and paying for it.
The worst thing is that the rules for EA are so fricking wibbly wobbly devs can just lie and declare a game is done when it clearly isn't, remember DayZ? Yeah it's "finished" but not really it's the same EA mess from 2012
>Baldurs Gate 3 is released, we're not EA anymore!
>Cut content everywhere revealed by data-mining
I know there is going to be a definitive edition released next year with all the cut content added back in, but not before they trickle it in as DLC over the course of said year
>which had DLC you can't get anymore
The content in 9 was on disc dlc, you can still access it.
>activejews promised no new cod in 2023
>oh wait here is call of duty mw33
>it has all the original mw2 maps
>and all the weapons from cod 2022
>original content?
>well umm we made the campaign haha
>there is also a new zombie mode
>that'll be $100 + tip
at least xdefiant will be f2p
Including lesser races, homosexuals, ugly women and DLC as a whole.
Fiat currency.
Capitalism
DLC. A game isn’t allowed to release as a finished product anymore. Everything has to have DLC.
What really grinds my gears are the people who think that if a game doesn't come with the promise of DLC in the future it's not a legitimate game.
These brainwashed pieces of shit need to have their brains scrambled even further so they're not allowed to invest their money into this industry any more.
>What really grinds my gears are the people who think that if a game doesn't come with the promise of DLC in the future it's not a legitimate game
Fricking tell me about it. Now it's just
>oh they haven't made DLC? THEY ABANDONED IT AND IT FAILED
About 2 years ago I decided to stop buying new games and only play games from the PS2 generation or earlier and I've had so much more fun. Modern games suck. Stop buying them. Pirate if you have to but don't pay for garbage
Remember when digital downloads was supposed to mean lower prices?
>Oh, we don't have to ship games around the world and we also save on producing discs, manuals and cases.
Turns out all it meant was more profit for the publishers.
i remember that
thats why "digital" its never worth more than 5€
Isn't that partially due to brick & mortar stores chimping out, since they'd be completely fricked by lower digital pricing?
partially, but that doesnt stop games that are digital only from being cheaper.
Name 3 40$ indie games
i can't even name 3 indie games worth playing
I'm too lazy to even give you a letmegooglethatforyou link
>dude its bullshit that indies are 40$
>oh yeah like which ones?
>uh idk just like google it or something
Gtfo
You're confusing ME needing to Google it rather than YOU needing to just fricking Google it.
Ya know, hence why I mentioned you googling it in the first place?
do you guys have diagnosted autism?
Yes, how did you know?
>on disk DLC
This kind of bullshit is why I pirate and crack games. Didn't Mass Effect 3 do this? That was the last game I played that had baked in DLC, I think.
Imagine typing this all up and still misunderstanding
Thanks for confirming youre moronic lol
there you go, an indie cost 40$ sometimes
I've been pretty interested in this. Is it worth playing? I only pirate games
firefox refuses to open lmgtfy. what the frick
paying for virtual currency
Games being released before they are ready.
It's not uncommon to buy a game at launch, play it and like it, and then see the devs go "yeah, there's a quality of life patch coming in 2-3 weeks". Then why the frick should anyone buy it at launch? You can either play through a game with flaws that the devs are fixing or just stop playing until they've finally made it what it should have been from the start.
paid head starts. such a scummy fricking tactic preying on fomo.
Pretty good list. Here is another couple
>on disc DLC
>gacha/lootbox gambling
Battle Pass bullshit is the scummiest shit ever. You basically pay to be psychologically chained to their game for months/years.
Battle Passes. I know some anons already said it but Holy Fricking Shit I can't fathom how anyone could not only buy this garbage but also defend it
>Okay spend 10$ plus tip to be able to get items that aren't completely shit
>Alright grind it out every single waking hour of your free time so you can get that one thing you want in the pass before the month's over
>Not gonna make it? Don't worry bro cough up 50$ for a boost and if you spend all week playing religiously you'll get it
The people behind this should be crucified and the people who defend it should be put to the brazen bull
>Ok grind this free battle pass
>Oh, did you get it high enough to get that non-shit item that makes paying for it worth while? Guess you can buy it and unlock for free
It's not as bad as you make it, just don't fricking buy it until the end of the period and only if you already cleared the shit, instead of at the start and making it feel like you have to play.
Paid pass only missions are a fricking scam though and should burn in hell
Battle passes are cancer, free or not. Frick you and your bullshit gaming on some server's schedule. Just have unlockables and let me unlock them on my own time.
You know what? Master Duel has the best implementation of a battle pass I have ever seen because you can buy it with the in game currency and the pass itself offers more than enough to pay for the next one without spending a dime.
"Scam" doesn't mean "something I don't think is worth the price". If you use words incorrectly you weaken your criticism and thus weaken your own side.
Corporate bugman "hands" typed this post.
not trying to be a jerk, but I'm pretty sure israelites have claws instead of hands
You're good dude, that's what I was trying to imply
and Ganker will defend all that garbage to the death as long as you put some anime girls on it
buying the "upgraded" 2nd edition consoles and single use plastics
Online only digital games.
You don't actually own the game, you just pay for the privilege of playing it for a few years before the servers are shut down.
Content farms
>>"""HD""" Remasters which add literally nothing
kek, I wish
usually they take things off or at least make things worse
Super Street Fighter
Super Street Fighter Turbo
Super Street Fighter Turbo: Arcade Edition
The current "your game must launch with a season pass or else it will be considered dead on arrival" scheme isn't any better, especially when there's a hundred "dead on arrival" flags people have regarding this genre on top of it
>No refunds anywhere but Steam
Every platform does refunds, steam just makes it easy.
Well, I haven't heard of anyone actually getting Sony to refund anything but yeah they're supposed to.
>RNG heavy games that are highly addictive gambling machines in disguise
Social Security. Don't even call it a pyramid scheme, call it "reverse inheritance" and watch even the most socialist hating boomer flip the frick out.
the government.
Usury.
The entire profession of being a landlord.
an unironic commie lmao
Just buy your own house, bro.
I did. And my mortgage is much higher than it should be due mostly to corporations and "investors" buying up all the land.
t. israelite
>the guy complaining about his mortgage also hates rental property
holy the moronation
Are you brain damaged? I hated renting so I bought a house, so that I can actually have equity in something instead of pissing money away for nothing. I hate how much I have to spend as a direct result of landlords buying up all the land.
This isn't hard to work out.
>Day 1 DLC
No idea why this is supposedly bad
>Microtransactions
Yeah I'll give you that one
>Deluxe editions
Just buy the normal edition, deluxe are for fans of the series
>Preorder bonuses
Devs have an interest in making accurate estimates on how the game will sell, nothing wrong with rewarding people who believed in your project early
>Online DRM
Won't somebody think of the poor innocent pirates? Denuvo only accounts for an extra 7% memory usage, tales about how it breaks games are pure pirate slander.
>$70 "AAA" games
>$40 "Indie" games
Run us through the math of how much should they cost
>Digital costs the same as physical
You can't give distribution rights to stores and then undercut them yourself unless you wanna be sued for scamming
>No discs or manuals in cases anymore
Yeah this one is a bummer
>Early Access abandonware
Nothing wrong with cutting losses of your project is clear to be a flop
>Twitch streamers get to play first
Oh no marketeers get to know the product they are marketing before customers? That's outrageous!
>Game journalists still allowed to lie
Allowed by whom?
>Endless cutscenes to bloat playtime
Sounds like a you problem, I like cutscenes if well done
>Battle passes
Don't buy them if you don't like them
>No refunds anywhere but Steam
Why would anyone refund something you willingly bought, lmao. Do they refund you at the teather if you didn't like the movie/play?
>Skinner box autism
I'll half give you this one, but it's more likely to be your fault if you're a moron prone to addiction
>Selling a previously free game for like $30+tip
If it involves having to port then it might be legitimate, otherwise I give you this one
>"""HD""" Remasters which add literally nothing
Nothing except you know, the HD.
>Delisting games and shutting down servers
Hosting isn't free, you know
>200 GB install sizes regardless of hardware
If you want next gen graphics you get next gen filesizes
You get like 3 points out of that wall of whines.
This is the most zoomer post Ive ever seen on this board and I've wasted alot of my fricking life on this site.
Always remember that if ever seems like something can't get any worse than it already is, it can (and will) get worse.
Guarantee that in another 10 years there will be shit going on in gaming that will make today look like child's play.
They WILL make streaming the only way to play games.
>its another moron who doesnt understand denuvo
it's all so tiresome.
Where to even start with you.
Holy fricking NPC takes
you're transexual by the way
*dick sucking noises*
you may think this is bait but zoomers are actually that moronic now
holocaust
PCgays bending over and letting them take away physical media altogether in like a 5 year stretch. At least consolegays made MS wait 2 generations
>ends civilization
>$40 "Indie" games
It wouldn't be as bad if these "indies" would drop the LARP and just say they're AA studios instead. "Indie" has had its meaning diluted and honest independent devs' work is devalued every time a "fake indie" releases a game that merely rides on the indie label for marketing and publicity purposes.
If you have a $1,000,000+ budget, you no longer get to classify yourself as an indie. It's pretty fricking simple.
AA implies A higher level of quality than most indie devs provide.
No, it stands for budget size not "quality".
Use your fricking brain
This coming from the person who thinks indie refers to budget.
Fricking moron.
And it does.
No you moron. Indie is short for independant meaning they had no assistance from big publishers.
The price of an indie game doesn't meant it isn't indie.
>If you have a $1,000,000+ budget, you no longer get to classify yourself as an indie.
That's the most moronic shit I've heard in my life. Indie literally has nothing to do with the budget of a game, it could be a AAA budget game and it would still be an indie game because they're doing everything independently.
i'm tired of being angry, but i can't stop being angry
"Buying" steam games
Some days ago, I had to explain to BG3 fans, that early access is not a good practice. And that the game's cosmetic Day 1 DLCs actually count as Day 1 DLC.
Any limited items and FOMO exploiting shit pretty much.
I don't even care if it's free.
It's trash made to keep you playing a game you do not enjoy.
If you fall for FOMO you have a weak mind and deserve to be exploited
>NOOOO I HAVE TO PLAY THIS GAME I DON'T LIKE TO GET THIS ONCE IN A LIFE TIME DIGITAL HAT!!!
No you don't. Get some self control.
>people with psychological flaws in their brain they cant help deserve to be exploited
you are a israelite and death would be too nice for you.
>Day 1 DLC
Not really a thing anymore, now it's day 1 microtransactions which is even worse
>Deluxe editions
>Preorder bonuses
fine if it's only physical stuff with it, I remember getting a little joker keychain with lego batman
>$70 "AAA" games
I'm fine with this as long as there are no microtransactions
>>$40 "Indie" games
even $25 is pushing it
Access abandonware
the worst is when "early access" games have battlepasses. like the game somehow isn't finished but you get completely locked out of content forever if you don't play it right now
streamers get to play first
This and twitch drops are cancer
>>Game journalists still allowed to lie
it's not "allowed to" it's "forced to"
cutscenes to bloat playtime
These are more expensive than making longer gameplay sections, which really makes me wonder why they do it
passes
Pure cancer, but don't forget the cash shop that rotates daily that accompanies every game with a battlepass
box autism
It's fun in games designed around it like idle games and MMOs, but absolutely fricking moronic that this bullshit is in shooters now
a previously free game for like $30+tip
not aware of this ever happening
>>200 GB install sizes regardless of hardware
it's fricking crazy to me how a game like Overwatch is still only 30 GB despite having tens of thousands of voicelines and 40 characters and some of the most detailed maps, but then CoD release at fricking 200 GB somehow
It still amazes me how so many people don't understand how 3rd party exclusives are anti-consumer bullshit. Like, it's so simple. They're trying to cuck you into buying 3 or 4 consoles when you could technically play all the games one 1.
>Eddy please! The hull you have constructed will never maintain structural integrity at the dephts needed to reach the Titanic! I implore you!
>Can it sockhead it'll reach the ocean floor alright!
>Ya DD implore's a fish!
Capitalism.
>large waste of resources (water, fertilizer, gas, land)
>produces absolutely nothing (no food or goods)
>bland-looking
>so toxic or "well-groomed" that you're not allowed to touch it (children can't play on it)
>widens the distance between actual places of interest (bars, parks, stores) which leads to a feeling of isolation
>meaningless chore to maintain
>not maintaining it will get you in trouble with the neighborhood gestapo
frick golfers
do americans really
yep, it takes my dad more than two hours on pic related
>Online DRM
This is not a scam. Publishers have a right to ensure that people aren't stealing their product. Anything that frustrates the people who try to enjoy the product without paying for it is a good thing
it's not the people buying/pirating games that are getting scammed. it's the people making/publishing the games