Frick predictions for 3-5, what are your thoughts on the endgame?
I don't trust Ralsei for shit. That little bastard is 100% hiding something behind that insufferably cute exterior. I completely expect him to be one of the villains towards the end of the game
Ralsei is probably going to be one of those morally grey characters who isn’t the endgame villain but is still going to cause problems later on.
The knight will be the main villain and will probably be Dess or the mayor
>all these deltarune threads
I can feel the energy
CH. 3 soon
the fire rises
I'm starting to be doubtful that ch3 will come out this year tbh
If you read the newsletter that came out last month, you'd know that there's no way. Chapter 3 is still being worked on.
Theyre working on all chapters at the same time with most work being done on ch3 and 4 so far. Ch3 and 4 are probably nearing completion. It's doable by Christmas
speed reader kun~
toby said they're working on all the chapters at once
Beastiality is a sin in the Bible
Ralsei being a villain is too easy. He's clearly hiding something from the player, but not from Kris because they keep having conversations while we play as Susie.
I don't think Ralsei is going to be a VILLAIN villain. Rather, I think he has a very clear objective in mind and either Kris, Susie, or (You) may end up opposed to it.
Notice how Ralsei seems very nonchalant about other Darkners, and proudly says they exist to serve Lightners. Meanwhile Susie REALLY likes Lancer. I think this is going to be the ultimate point of contention. Susie will value Darkners more than Ralsei does, and this will eventually cause a problem.
I like the idea that gaster wants the same thing we want but works in ways that make him seem the villain
Now what that thing is I have no clue, maybe there is no thing. Only time will tell
"The show must go off."
>Now what that thing is I have no clue
"I LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING A NEW FUTURE WITH YOU"
Gaster already knows how the story ends. He wants you to change it.
you say that and you may be right but there's just a HUGE elephant shaped gap in the known deltarune lore and its bugging me
I need something concrete
>but there's just a HUGE elephant shaped gap in the known deltarune lore
And what is that?
>I don't trust Ralsei for shit.
I know what you mean. Did anyone ever ask him his intentions or the means by which he intends to carry them out for that matter?
No. He seems very suspicious to me too, but he could be just what he appears to be.
We don't know enough, but I would bet he ends up being a traitor or something like that.
not to mention
>complete knowledge of a prophecy that isn't allowed to be questioned
>"we must seal the fountains.....just not mine"
>changes his story with the roaring in ch 2
>can't go in certain rooms in his castle
>not being suicidal means he's suspicious
Of fricking COURSE he doesn't want his fountain messed with, dumbass.
Great points! Anon, yes. This looks incredibly suspicious now that you reminded me. I would have been (kindly) questioning Ralsei the entire time, getting close to him, becoming "the best of friends" just so I could know his secrets. Then I would change them.
Also his name could be an anagram for something.
Re-arrange the letters for a clue? Maybe... maybe.
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He reminds me of a corrupt politician putting on a show for the people. I don't trust him, but, it might all be misdirection too...
It could even be variable.
>Take path a
>Ralsei acts like this, goes through with [X] plan
>take other pathes
>things are even more different
He may be planning something, but I bet You can change that, what it is, whatever it is.
>Re-arrange the letters for a clue? Maybe... maybe.
>He reminds me of a corrupt politician putting on a show for the people. I don't trust him
You got the joke!!!! Frick you for being so sharp :^)
Nice crypto too, anon!
saved.
>couldn't enter Asriel's room in the cyber world
that made me very suspicious ye
My like the new theory that the reason we don;t look inside is because Asriel has a thing for purple dragon girls and so his search history is full of lewd queries.
Its also why Susie cracks up at it.
He's remodeling upstairs though, we saw Q5U4EX7YY2E9N's room in the update.
>and getting bigger
How else is he supposed to build new rooms?
>>"we must seal the fountains.....just not mine"
To be fair, this got elaborated on in ch2 with the revelation of darkners that don't belong to the dark world they're in turning to stone, but not in ralsei's dark world because it's speshul for whatever reason.
I hope I can slit Ralsei's throat, marry Susie and we both take Noelle as a mindbroken sex slave
meds
take them
Penultimate fight is you VS the FUN Gang, who are kind of pissed that you possessed Kris for most of the game. It's extremely hard to lose with the power of your intended vessel, but technically possible. Normally the fight ends when you get them to assess their priorities, one way or the other.
>impossible because Kris knows every move you could make, thus getting rid of the SOUL
>however, upon doing so, reality tears at the seams and collapses, blank screen
>reload shows gaster at a computer screen, simply mutters "test finished"
I can't remember if Toby shared the game ending part of his fever dream that inspired Deltarune. I recall the scene of the gang going up stairs to face the Knight - which could exclude it from necessarily being Kris, even though whatever else is possessing him also opened a fountain.
Unless (You) are going to fight everything like posited.
This game makes me feel like a kid again with all the wait & wonder, even more so than with Undertale.
> I recall the scene of the gang going up stairs to face the Knight
That was Toby talking about an anime-style opening idea that didn't happen.
Yeah, but OPs tend to summarize important elements of the story.
Namedropped character that we'll see in Chapter 3 as an antagonist, probably.
https://deltarune.com/d_a_m_n_y_o_u_t_e_n_n_a/
The other anon posted the full list, but this one's specific.
See pic related for corroborating information. Tenna is probably the TV, and Mike sounds like someone who got fricked over like Spamton.
i wonder if Toby knew that eating a block of cheddar before bed would lead to a successful career
I am going to take the loaded disk into chapter 3 and plug Spamton into the biggest machine I can find so he can reconnect with his old buddy Mike
Spamton when Mike and Tenna were the same person the whole time
The frick's a Tenna? Is that something from that Spamton charity auction thing? I didn't follow that too closely
http://deltarune.com/dess
https://deltarune.com/shadowmen/
https://deltarune.com/tv/
https://deltarune.com/code/
https://deltarune.com/weather/
https://deltarune.com/catpetterz/
http://deltarune.com/chair
http://deltarune.com/secret
deltarune.com/egg/
https://bluebubble.rodeo/
https://deltarune.com/secretpipis/
https://deltarune.com/icee
https://deltarune.com/dog/
https://deltarune.com/sighting/
https://deltarune.com/changingroom/
https://deltarune.com/ramb/
https://deltarune.com/lancer
https://deltarune.com/man/
https://deltarune.com/december
https://deltarune.com/blink
https://deltarune.com/kris_dreemurr_kris/
https://deltarune.com/bluecircle/
https://deltarune.com/the_n3w3st_g1rl_g1rl/
https://deltarune.com/d_a_m_n_y_o_u_t_e_n_n_a/
https://deltarune.com/icepalace_glaceir/
Specifically, you want the penultimate link, but check the others too.
Yeah I remember seeing a little bit of this, but it was too much for me to do a deep dive on at the time. I'll just stick to what I can do in the game. I still I have to prepare my three save files for when chapter 3 drops: one pure pacifist, one pure genocide, and one pure pacifist except the loaded disk is in my inventory
There really needs to be some sort of save file generator for the game if there's gonna be all these branching paths and flags you have to hit to see certain events. I just wanna open a menu and go "put me at chapter 3 where these events happened in the previous chapters, and these events didn't" instead of having to play through the entire game multiple times just to test theories. It was fine starting over in Undertale but Deltarune is shaping up to be a full 40 hour RPG
https://deltarune.com/d_a_m_n_y_o_u_t_e_n_n_a/
you might wanna make use of ctrl+a on this one.
I have 0 clue as to how the normal route will end, aside from the fact Toby has been saving Penumbra Phantasm for it, but I did come up with a theory as to how Snowgrave will end.
>The death of Berdly is heavily implied to have major repercussions on the overall story, if the hospital bead is anything to go by.
>How major? Basically, pic related major.
>Without him, completing the main story becomes an impossibility; softlocking, basically.
>The Roaring happens, all Darkners die, the fat lady sings, etc.
>Then, this is where W. D. Gaster finally gets involved.
>On the normal route, he avoids becoming a character in what is assumed to be his own experiment, aside from inserting the occasional schizo every now and then and taking notes.
>But on Snowgrave?
>You turn the entire experiment on its head, killing a character who had major plot relevance, and "freed" yourself from Gaster's grip on the experiment.
>Whether he expected this or not, I don't know.
>Either way, after all is done and over with, he provides a means for Kris and the player to finally meet the fricker in the form of a door.
>Remember https://deltarune.com/icepalace_glaceir/?
>Basically that.
>I can't say what will happen from there.
>He may either commend or damn the player for breaking free from his experiment.
>If it's the former, he'll just probably deliver a few words as to who he is, what really happened to him, and try to answer every possible question we've had about the guy since 2015.
>If it's the latter and he decides to fight, then THAT might be where Toby finally busts out Megalo Strike Back; after that he might bring Chara back, who knows?
TL;DR: Snowgrave softlocks the game, thus foring the funny egg man to get off his ass and deal with you.
That's part of the idea I had with
, be as unpredictable and autistic as possible until whoever was pulling the strings behind the scenes came out begging me to stop. There's obviously things going on outside of our view, whether with Kris, Ralsei, and Susie conspiring behind our back or with whoever is granting these darkeners forbidden knowledge that's making them go crazy. I want to get to the bottom of it
the roaring is actually a good thing, and trying to prevent it will cause more harm than good. There is a lightner version of the legend that will learn about in the church that will support the idea of the roaring being a good thing.
shes right
I don't really have any basis for this theory, but my idea is that between the normal pacifist route and the weird route, the weird route is the almost kinda true ending
like it feels like in pacifist, everything is expected, you make friends, your friends help you, you take out the boss, etc etc
but the weird route is weird, stuff isn't happening how its supposed to happen, ralsei seems more confused overall during the route, whatever force was pulling us toward the events of the pacifist route, youve clearly broken free and while people are suffering over it, I don't trust some omnipresent force telling me "this is the right thing to do"
I genuinely hope its gaster and chara behind the curtains, and while gaster wanted to do the experiment with the vessel and shit, the experiment he wants to run, chara was the one who initially messed it up (the ending of the character creator scene where someone says "no one gets to choose who they are in this world" or whatever
Gaster is canonically satan in undertale so it isnt a stretch to assume hes the final bad guy of deltarune
you are helping gaster destroy Heaven tho. Kris is the only good one
"satan gud guy" isn't a new trope, anon
I know I know, and like I said I don't have any basis for my theory i'm just spitballing here. Toby does always put good twists in so who knows, gaster could still be a weird funny dude who's just dicking around behind a monitor
Never mind Gaster, what's THIS fricker's endgame?
>tree bent into an angular shape
treasure maybe?
Honestly, Lancer telling us we need at least 1 egg to get through our teen years means soemthing fricky is going on
Since the first egg you'd casually find is the Chpater 2 one, whihc has a giant glowing wall to mark it out
this thread was very enlightening. thank you anons
The game will be split into 2 routes. Normal and Weird. Ch1 is essentially a prologue where Ch2 is where the split happens. in the normal route you can't go genocide anymore and vice-versa. You're stuck in that route til the last chapter. Because of that there's going to be 2 very distinct endings.
In the normal route you'll have the help of all the friends you made along the way. In the weird route, everyone will turn against you and you'll have to defeat Susie, Ralsei, and whoever are the new characters.
Is he /ourguy/? Will time prove him right?
I can't stand this guy, the way he talks, even tho are just theories, sound like he's preaching the absolute truth. And some of the theories he covers (the ones he comes up with) are pure convoluted trash
ralsei = dead asriel is correct
but he ripped that off, no way he'd come up with that with all the misconceptions he makes
What do you mean Asriel is dead? He's at university in another city!?!?
JaruJaruJ has a theory that just before leaving for college, Asriel was murdered by Kris by accident in the school's old classroom where the dark world is. The main proofs are Kris' internet searches in the Queen's mansion, especially the gello knife and the fact that only Kris can seemingly communicate with Asriel via his phone.
Because Asriel's body was in the old classroom and is that place is now a dark world fountain, he is now ralsei or some shit like that. Just watch this video really. It's a neat theory even if it sounds stupid.
Ralsei's kingdom is in the broom closet
yeah right that shit, he basically said that kris murdered ralsei in the middle door of that corridor, the one that susie and kris entered in ch1.
I think he also said kris was also wearing the horns and the left the green crayon that are both missing in there, this is why ralsei looks like that.
And the narrative gets even more convoluted? I'm impressed!
Thankfully is just a theory and he doesn't hold it as gospel. This gonna get debunked hard when Asriel appears.
Yeah it's pretty convoluted, but that's how his theory goes.
It's not mine anon. I'm just describing a theory of a video i saw months ago from the top of my head. if you think it's dumb just go to his video and leave a comment.
You thought well enough of it to bring it up here, you're just as worthy of receiving criticism about the theory then the video maker is
Falls apart after your first post was debunked
The mental gymnastics wtf.
Ralsei is clearly the lost Red Horns embedded with Kris wishes to be a goat monster that ended up finding it's way to the pure fountain.
see
>ended up
It's probably some Gaster shit, honestly everyone saying ralsei is sus is semi-correct, but some of the sus is probably because Ralsei's Dark Fountain is a controlled enviroment/Control Sample for experiments, and his exsistence has been morphed around this, i.e what the creator of the dark fountain wanted is what is making ralsei the sussy boy, it's why he knows shit nobody else does - it's his purpose, he probably wrote it all in the manual that kris refuses to read and now Ralsei has to be the sussy imposter routine to spoonfeed Kris the information that won't drive him insane or blow up the world
My thoughts exactly.
>he probably wrote it all in the manual that kris refuses to read
We can read the manual in the game files though,
Yep, and you can already see deltarune spoilers in it
>Talks about the pillar immedeatly
>pastes himself in the prophecy repost, so it's slightly different ti what he told you
>pulsar cannons
>Lancer is on Page 7, despite the fact you only met Lancer a bit ago. Command Menu exsisting at all, Lancer's dialogue takes a different meaning due to Snowgrave
this isn't LE EVIL posting, but Ralsei has posted spoilers and Kris just isn't reading them
>Chara fell in 201X
>It's now 202X
What does it mean?
Honestly the biggest mindfrick is the reason people don't know what year it is comes done due to SAVE exsisting
but they still know it's 202X
>Brush your teeth or you'll get a cold.
What did he mean by this? Whose teeth are we brushing to prevent a Noelle-cular Winter?
>"YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THE POSSIBILITY OF PAIN OR SEIZURE."
>Config
>"coveted seizure-related ones"
Guys...?
his cadence and demeanor actually make me close his videos every time i (accidentally) click on them
i'm impressed because he's one of very few people to do this to me
why are you guys hyped in a game that is gonna come out in like 3 years?
Because Toby managed to tap into the exact autistic area of my brain that nobody has managed to touch since Homestuck.
Homestuck is garbage
Yes, but there was a time when it was also fantastic.
>Because Toby managed to tap into the exact autistic area of my brain that nobody has managed to touch since Homestuck.
*pat pat*
I feel this too.
I'm like 50 / 50 on whatever the Roaring will happen and chapters 6~7 will be us trying to get things back to normal or not
I can totally see chapters 1~5 being us building a party / Power to fight off the Titans and get back to normal but at the same time The Roaring feels like end of the world scenario even if you do manage to banish the Angel's Heaven
>SIXTY
>MILLION
>DOLLARS
Hussie? Andrew Hussie, is that you?
TOBY YOU CANT HIDE FOREVER
damn he do be dancin tho
>being in that first thread once the Weird route was discovered
really wonder if anything we'll see in later chapters will top that
Is there a link to the archived thread?
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/571358969/#571360451
dino/dragon milk
POST YOUR FAVORITE FUTURE SCHIZBOSS IDEA NOW
Corrupted nightmare fuel Dess half merged with her beloved one (If Dess can be considered the girl from the music video).
>Dess fell in love with a video game character and got herself stuck inside the game
Bold and revolutionary storytelling from Toby if true. Alphys could only dream.
dess's guitar darkner
Chapter 3 Schizoboss is the Boogieman
>Discarded by Kris growing out of his fear.
>Shadow mantle is a blanket to hide under.
>Is also the face seen in Queen's basement and the https://deltarune.com/chair/ jumpscare.
Chapter 3 schizoboss is the flowers Toriel throws away.
If it used ASGORE as a leitmotif with the Freedom one, that would be sweet.
Also if it was just a plant/flower Asgore.
Asriel's abandoned old videogame.
There's gonna be some time loop shit going on at the end. That's why your decisions don't matter.
Entire game is nothing but an eternal dream
My headcanon is that kris went through the exact same dummy training you do in Undertale when he was a kid, to expalin why he is fine with hugging the ralsei dummy and can equip the manequinn - Kris probably did the exact same thing with his home dummy when he as like 5/6 or so
>Another Deltatroon thread
WHERE IS MORE GAME
my dog ate my game
t. toby
Krisriel
Dess is closer than we think
Also as a thing that is happening on youtube, there's a fad of coding Mr.Beast to deltarune music now because somebody depecited him as Spamton
My schizo theory is that toby will put a playable Epilogue into Deltarune - There's lots of emphasis on ONE ENDING but I honestly can't remember any Earthbound like adapting the post-gigyas postgame of Earthbound where you can just, walk around and chat to everyone before going home
It'd honestly be a masterpiece if you got a post-game walk around town to experience how you've improved or fricked over Kris just before you leave him in the web of choices you made for him throughout the game
>I honestly can't remember any Earthbound like adapting the post-gigyas postgame of Earthbound where you can just, walk around and chat to everyone before going home
Undertale already did this
Wild speculation: Roaring is basically dimensional merge and Kris-Chan will use his power to bring his cool imaginary characters to life, fricking everything up in the process.
Jesus, no wonder Toriel took a page from Chris Redfield.
reminder that she will come back
>Asriel comes home from college
>"Mom, dad, I want you to meet my new girlfriend!"
>"That's me, Chara!"
>Kris's face when
None to be frank
goodnight Ganker
cozy, restful sleeps and swift development of chapters 3-5 will come to you
but ONLY if you reply "sleep tight susan"
You won't see Gaster unless you relaunch the game after finishing the game and editing your save to have cleared Chapter 9
Allowing you to play a hidden chapter.
Gaster's Dope ass house party
test
arooni
Kris is the Knight and you fight them in Your Body.
After the fact Kris is subdued and the last dark fountain is sealed.
Ralsei then exposits on how exactly he was working with Kris and that gathering up all the Darkners at his fountain allows him to transform the world into an endless realm of dreams.
Toby pulls a Persona 5 Royal having Kris as a new party member.
Normal Ending is Kris undoing his mistake by grabbing Ralsei by the horns and "SNAP".
Fountain closing scene happens.
You and Kris Wake up in the School's Closet Kris now holding a pair of broken fake Horns.
The World doesn't go to shit because the dark realm will always exist in out hears or some shit and the ending happens.
I'm worried that the ending is gonna suck. Has there ever been a time where this many people got this hyped over something and then it paid off satisfyingly? I can't think of an example.
I'm worried that it's not going to be as crazy as people are speculating and theorizing and the heights to which people are raising the possibilities will never be fulfilled....yeah
I think no matter what I'm going to like it so I'm not being pessimistic at all
What if the ending does suck
But what's before and after it is pretty darn good?
The ending literally came to Toby in a fever dream, which he has obsessively spent the last 10 years to make into a reality.
that is how Tolkien came up with the Lord of the Rings
It pulls a 999 and requires you play the Snowgrave path all the way through to get the "one and only ending" because it teaches Kris something he shouldn't know in the true path.
LIVE!
I'm sleepy
me too
goodbye thread
looking forward to another year of nothing
Gaster will never be further expanded upon, he'll just continue being a behind the scenes entity
I doubt it
TOBBYYYYYY WHERE IS IT
Something interesting:
Out of the two, sans is the more popular brother. So it would make sense to normally, have papyrus greet us first and tease Sans more and more making us wonder what is he hiding????
But toby did the opposite of this
In chapter 1 it seemed like the goal was to stop the knight
But in chapter 2 kris learns that he can make a fountain too if he so wishes.
So what's the mission now?
I feel like we will get an encounter with the knight and he will be like: "Lightners! You've come to stop me! Prepare for a fight!" And the shit gang will just scoff him off, maybe.
But it would be much better if there is no "goofy" encounter with the knight and every encounter with him is pure horror and serious
>But in chapter 2 kris learns that he can make a fountain too if he so wishes.
While I do not think Kris is the Knight, it's worth pointing out that the plan to make a fountain seems to have been set in motion at the very least since the night of Chapter 1, because the TV is already plugged in in the morning, and we know it wouldn't be Toriel because the TV is dusty and unused.
Either that or Kris really was hoping for Susie to come and prepared the TV in advance.
It's also nice to know that Kris has a save file in Castle Town before You even get there. In both chapters
>Chapter 1, because the TV is already plugged in in the morning
Damn you're right
anyone else remember back during the chapter 1 days when people thought we'd come back to explore more of the ch1 dark world?
i rember some fanmade stuff like lancer's siblings and the queen of spades.
would the story have been better if it went that route?
frick no
curious on why you think that's the case?
cause toby making all the dark worlds completely different only causes each chapter to feel inconsistent and plays like mario 64 with it's paint worlds
Variety is better than walking through a boring card kingdom. Chapter 1 is already Toby's most mediocre work, while the ch2 internet dark world gave us a shitton of memes and Spamtong
i'd heavily disagree and think that chapter 1 was one of the comfiest things toby ever made.
it also has someo f the best music he did (besides bigshot)
also alice in wonderland and narnia both managed to be long stories with tons of characters and locations so i think toby has enough materials for atleast a few chapters in the card kingdom.
it gave me comfy undertale demo vibes.
same.
some of the scenes and music really gave me the vibe of watching a 90s animated adventure movie like "little nemo in dream land"
I'm legitimately afraid of the sheer amount of backtracking and autism that's gonna be required to get everything in the later chapters. Some shit might even hinge on you doing certain things in town, and it might even hinge on your NOT doing certain things in town. Imagine if in chapter 5 you realize you can't do something because you talked to Onion in chapter 2, so you need to go back and replay 2-5 just to progress.
A reminder that this place will be fricking unusable when ch3 drops. Someone will probably datamine the game in like 4 minutes and leak the ch5 ending
who the hell is going to be reading threads when the game drops
Some people will. I'm turning off my wifi and binging the game in a single night
ch3 4 & 5 will probably be like 16 hours in length total lol. Probably longer with the other routes and whatever other schizo frickery Toby surprises us with
that's the only way to do it, you only get to experience the game for the first time once
>spoil the ending
Thanks for reminding me that this will probably happen
I need to remind myself to do an internet detox of sorts when the chapters release
Imagine if Toby says in the Spring newsletter that he changed his mind and will be releasing chapter 3 & 4 together in September, and chapter 5 early next year
i'd unironically cry for the first time in YEARS
TOBYYYYYYYYYYYY
I WANT IT
I WANT IT NOW YOU Black person
NOWWWWWWW
TOBY
TOBY
TOBYYYYYYY
I KNOW YOU FRICKING HAVE IT
I KNOW YOU HAVE THE CHAPTERS
I KNOW IT
GIVE THEM TO ME
NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
I CAN'T LIVE ANY LONGER WITHOUT DELTARUNE
I CANNOT LIVE ANY LONGER WITHOUT DELTARUNE CHAPTER 3
I CANNOT LIVE ANY LONGER WITHOUT DELTARUNE CHAPTER 4
I CANNOT LIVE ANY LONGER WITHOUT DELTARUNE CHAPTER 5
GIVE THEM TO ME TOBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I'VE BEEN WAITING 1 YEAR AND 4 MONTHS
TOBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
WHERE IS IT
I FRICKING KNOW YOU ARE HIDING IT FROM ME
TOBYYYYYYYY PLEASEEEEE TELL ME CH3 AND 4 ARE FINISHED BY NOWWWWWWWWWW
TOBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I NEED THEM THISSSS YEAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
You may ask "who is next?"
You may ask "who will be?"
Who will be the secret boss of adventure no.3?
up
I want to bring Dess back home.
I want Kris to be happy again.
I want Noelle to be happy again.
I want Susie to feel accepted.
Is that all too much to ask
!@#% gang, because friends that eat moss together, stay together.
Soon
>what are your thoughts on the endgame
Pic related.
Will Susie beat him up?
Asian girl!
Post more fem kris like last thread