what the frick went wrong with the remake? the original is so evocative.
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what the frick went wrong with the remake? the original is so evocative.
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generic is better chud
As if DeS wasn't generic.
have a nice day
>Le hecking gamerino I grew up with is not generic because... it just isn't!
I was joking when I said to have a nice day but now I mean it
I've always really hated this argument because it implies it's normal for games like this to exist, when it isn't. People used it a lot when talking about TES4 Oblivion and it was moronic then because to this day there aren't many games like that. And Demons Souls is unique even among souls games. It's the opposite of generic.
God, I love (OG) Demons Souls so fricking much bros. Looks so good.
Its just become trendy to shit on From.
Because they're popular and recognized now. They've become too mainstream and therefore are an obvious target for contrarians.
>Original
Soulless 7th gen brown slop
>Remake
Actual colors
literal goyslop
people will still not admit this but 7th generation graphics are soul
>Brown and bloom
>Soul
>DP
>Brown
Your dole dippers moron
Isn't Deadly Premonition quite literally a PS2 game, that got stuck in development hell for a while?
people give me shit for it but I think the original Nier is peak soul compared to its soulless remake
bottom looks better
Bluepoint took too many liberties with the art and produced something inferior to the original. People shit on their SoTC remake too but that looked a lot better.
>People shit on their SoTC remake too but that looked a lot better.
yea nah
I love the remake, I won’t even consider playing the og. Looks like a PS2 game.
I know you're shit posting but it genuinely blows my mind how zoomers don't know what PS2 graphics actually looked like.
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new one looks straight out of starfield
You think that's bad? By far the worst change is Satsuki, the only implicitly Asian NPC, who was given a comically racist Fu Manchu moustache in the remake.
> Anime character of a chink
> Irl Chink
right looks better
trans btw
>"Your daughter calls me daddy too"
>"Son, the diagnosis is back: I have osteoporosis"
>left: Le generic anime angry old man
>right: Normal old man
Right is better
Someone post the voice comparison
cracks me up every time
it looks like geralt with down syndrome
The voice acting is way worse than the appearance
weird recast
From Isshin to old Zelensky
why did they make him israeli?
I mean... he looks more evil that way
But Biden isn't israeli.
Bluepoint is similar to those modders that add bunch of ferns to Half Life 2, or ones that make cars in GTA4 insanely detailed.
>BLUEPOINT IS SO GOOD WOW IT LOOKS SOOO PRETTY
The inevitable Bloodborne Remake will have the exact same problems
It's the modern template, low effort ugly shit is the new cool
Poopoint outsourcing to third worlders
right looks better
Literally 90% of the 3D assets of any studio are outsourced these days, no AAA or even AA game would exist without outsourcing
Even FROM does this, you can check the Art Book of DaS1 when they talk extensively about giving the right directives for outsourcing
The studio, here Bluepoint Game, is responsible for the art direction and should be the only accountable for it, just like FROM are
It's always so fricking mindblowing to think that people in here spend their entire day talking about video games without having basic knowledge of how the industry works
The difference being From had a clear vision for the art direction instead of just letting some gay pajeets shit out some generic mobage looking dogshit and call it a day
Right looks better
>They, ace
Ace from one piece?
>changed the yellow flags to red
There's really no excuse now after Bloodborne.
Sad that you racism prevents you from understanding how a game art direction is conceptualized and executed
'Gay pajeets' as you call them are the ones responsible for 90% of the assets in the industry, and also a good amount of programming & sound design, yes even in the games you like
Bluepoint had a vision and they transmitted this vision to the 'gay pajeets' their game is coherent in art direction within itself (what you call 'generic mobage looking dogshit' for a lack of better artistic accuracy)
The real issue here is that this vision is different than what FROM originally made, and you may dislike it, I may dislike it, but it has absolutely nothing to do with outsourcing, it's not their purpose to fix bad art direction.
I guarantee you that the game would look the same if Bluepoint made these assets, only difference is that it would've cost 5 times the budget
dont care, didnt read rakesh. go shit in the street
Shouldn't you be scamming some elderly people right now, Pajeet?
That's not even a pajeet that's your average white American. Don't give Japanese games to Americans.
>agp trans
>ace
haha sure buddy
>outsourcing art
You know what else was outsourced to an external contractor?
meant more for
I believe you're right but I can't wrap my mind around the fact that they didn't assign aomeone to overlook the assets...
Even if jeet hands made them someone had to approve it at some point.
And, my God, the ui is just soulless
Bottom looks better
trans btw
>bolatarian mining colony explicitly stated to be nearby and the main source of ore for the castle
>uuuuhhh lets make it in the middle east now
lower looks better
which is the original?
the fact that you can't even tell says wonders about the necessity of this game
Top has the better skybox, if they changed the time of day to being twilight in the remake it would look better.
I'm Ok with everything except changing the time from twilight to midday, which clearly was a big change to worse.
Bluepoint is only technically competent. The remake runs and looks very nice (graphically). The art direction less so.
Trump lost
soul on top
soulless on bottom
Imagine having a western studio try to remake one of the greatest games conceived lol. Im sure fromsoft had zero saying on this. werent even asked if it was okay.
>Wow it's darker so it's better
World 1 and 3 are the only ones that look better in the original
>completely changes the time of day and weather for no reason
>mountains aren't even snowcapped
You don't even deserve to have eyes, shitpoint shill.
If anything it's much better in the remake because the following parts of the levels get darker and darker, making your descent into the depths of the level more impressive. In the original, the darkness is already too deep outside which makes the descent less memorable.
No it actually is completely worse because Bluepoint doesn't even understand where the Stonefang mines are located. They are not supposed to be in a fricking dusty sandy desert
It's not a desert, it's sandy because the barren lands (already noticeable in the original) are being mined. Notice how the remake added more mining devices in the background while in the OG the only mining place was the level itself. It's not better or worse, just different but still believable.
A barren wasteland with desert architecture and plantlife?
The extra mining equipment is nonsensically placed where in the original it was supposed to be city area next to the mine. In the remake they added sand and desert plants, which cannot be the result of mining, bluepoint is just moronic.
It's not nonsensically placed since the mining equipment isn't fused to the damn city, it's much closer to the player than to the city when looking at the background.
What do you mean by desert plants? Are there cacti? The few plants I've noticed can be found in the driest places of European scrublands.
Nah the whole game looks better in the original
>remaking a 7th gen game
>giving it to Westerners
What do you think went wrong?
>hand off a remake to a dev thats only ever made shovelware
>they produce shovelware level work
same story with toys for bob
I will never forgive burgerpoint for what they did to armor spider
You can't even delete characters in the remake.
Austin.
Nothing. You're mistaking technical limitations for """SOVL""" and developer's intent.
The remake is what the game was supposed to be like.
>The remake is what the game was supposed to be like.
It really isn't
yet none of fromsofts other titles look or feel like the demake.
you need to have a nice day
>erm actually they always wanted it to look like this they just couldn't because limitations
Reminder that they didn't even understand what the Gargoyles were supposed to be made from and just made them generic gargoyles, the maneaters also had petrified faces in the original yet the remake just made them Frankenstein's monsters for no reason. It's not the intended look, it's bluepoint moronation.
>better
you mean worse?
technical limitations causes creative solutions.
look at how bland and wasteful websites look nowadays when any moron can get a squarespace up in 5 seconds filled with empty white voids.
computer and memory abundance does not correlate with better results
>how dare they make things better oh no no my soul
>better
good morning sir how you can see from mask with no eyes? please understanding sir rape you later thanks
The same way you mom see my dick when i pull it out of my pants: with telekinesis
>NOOO IT'S THE EXACT SAME THING BUT WITH MORE DETAIL AND CLARITY SO IT'S WORSE
>IT'S THE EXACT SAME THING BUT WITH MORE DETAIL AND CLARITY
It's not, THOUGH.
Left: trollface
Right: wojack
>People will unironically defend what ever the frick they thought they were doing here.
How the actual frick do you rationalize this? What the actual frick were they thinking?
>samething
You mean to say they took the original and changed it for no reason and completely contradict the intended vision I believe. They didn't even use the fricking officials art book of the game as a source for their redesigns
> Good ancient armor
> MY MUSCLES LESSS ARMOR BOOMER WERE STRONG AND DIDNT NEED TOO MUCH ARMOR
realism bad?!
>realism bad?!
Yes, Fromsoftware has always relied more on impressionism than realism
People shit on DS2 for years for being cartoony
Because it is, though it was an attempt at capturing the feel of the King's Field series admittedly
great I love kingsfield
>mentally ill DS2troony dumping his folder (again) and dilating about his shitty game
mindbroken schizo
Why trannies like this game so much? Just because of that coffin you can change the character gender?
they've made some seriously odd design choices with this remake.seriously, who asked for a Souls game with generic WoW aesthetics? or npcs with overly detailed, ugly faces. or that embarrassing combat choreography in the first cutscene. the people in charge definitely lack good taste and or have never played the original
Lmao a pajeetPoint seething in the thread
I remember watching the trailer of the ps3 Demons and when the dragon god appeared I was like "holy frick", in the remake it felt like it was the trailer of warcraft/diablo movie
I'm not sure how I feel about the original. On one hand it's fun as hell to have a projectile thrown at you so blight it's actually fricking blinding your entire screen and really emphasizes "holy shit it's going to fricking kill you," but at the same time flashbanging poor noobs is not healthy difficulty.
>even changed the script to painfully spell out to the morons that you didn't fight the real allant
Jesus the entire remake really is them "fixing" things because they think the shit they don't understand are it being broken
bro is that just blacksmith boldwin's voice? holy shit its so hollow now
>old good, new bad
Granted the UI looks like dogshit, compared to From's usual one. At this point I don't trust Gankers opinion because people will cry wolf about any remake. Might as well pick it up when I feel a Souls-urge again.
My biggest problem with it was the music being completely butchered while having no option to switch to the original score
remake offset camera looks BAD
>a game is remade by different people from a very different culture
>it looks different
no shit sherlock of course it's dogshit if you loved the original
My most controversial opinion is that I don't really care about the remake art direction "not making sense" or "missing the point" when the actual visual experience is much improved over the original.
golem opinion
*shrug*
Im gonna play the remake.
>what the frick went wrong with the remake?
snoy giving demake to their pozzed studio and not involving from whatsoever
why demake gays still cope that ruining the game's entire artistic direction is a good thing? your shit demake isn't good just because snoystation 5 has no games, learn to deal with it
>The top looks better because...it's uglier
>can't see shit because everything's dark, blurry or bloom because of shit graphics
>literally have to make up the environments you can't physically distinguish
>"It'S sO eVocaTive."
Just read a book if you hate visuals in your games so much. They are 100% evocative.
You are literally a moronic monkey.
Although I hate the visual changes what grinds at me the most is the sound effects, one time some marvel movie was playing on tv and I noticed the sound effects were the exact same shit.
Absolutely disgusting.
yea, Hollywood slop movies and Hollywood games make extensive use of a Kontakt library called Heavyocity Damage. This is also the reason why all Hollywood slop trailers sound the exact same.
Fromsoft uses libraries too, don't get me wrong, but they typically use them as layers
Why is the Remake so hated? I don't get it. I really liked it, and I've played both. Is it, because the Remake did literally nothing else than to improve the graphics/frames? Oh and the black Crestfallen.. yeah. But that isn't the reason, is it?
I had fun and I don't care what others say. I'm just curious as how is the remake so hated..
you eat shit
150% of the audio is objectively worse and terrible
art style is ruined
visual effects and animations are amateur to say the least
That’s why you never give money to games made by ESG hires.
They can’t even copy a game properly.
I have never liked Demon Souls.
Nvidia vs amd gpu.
Demons souls is not good
You either see the difference between something original and interesting and generic pajeet-made high-fidelity AI sloppa, or you don't
Can't be helped
Demons'sss' Souls was never good but at least the remake has good graphics and doesn't look like a generic asset flip game.
HOLY SHIT
Why are you rolling and attacking nothing, why do you always post this webm?
Those enemies are awful. And those broken controls. But all anyone wants to talk about is muh atmosphere durr bluepoint rkuined it! kek
>Basic beginner zombie enemies are awful
>Perfectly fine responsive control are awful
Shut the frick up you moron, shut the frick up.
All the enemies are bad even until the end of the game. And you cant do shit with these controls. So clunky and bad.
Why even have a lock on if it's not going to work?Fricking slop
the lock on with the Tower Knight is really fricking annoying since it keeps locking on the head instead of the feet when you look up a little
detail-slop.
obviously the original had to save costs, but they made the best of it by giving you an impression of a painting rather than anything really specific. fromsoft has always been amazing at setting the mood with vastness and distance, whereas the western equivalent is just to place objects everywhere.
someone please post the webm comparing Wanders face in og SotC to the Female. That to me sums up western graphic fidelity perfectly.
Original obviously had the artistic direction but remake just feels better to play
>remake just feels better to play
it's literally the exact same code
>"You're there. As an adventurerr. Trying to decide how best to overcome a difficult situation"
Yes so true. Here I use my high iq big brain to defeat the boss. My favorite boss is Dragon God. It's not so much about your reflexes but thinking like an adventurer. If you're coming from Dark Souls 3 your ability to just hit the roll button at the right time isn't going to help you here.
>>"You're there. As an adventurerr. Trying to decide how best to overcome a difficult situation"
Yes.
>Cherrypicking a bad example
Look at true ludokino like Adjudicator. You have to hit his gut and then his glowing weak spot, but only high IQ gamers are capable of such a feat.
How is that a bad example
It's not le epic hardcore boss fight like DS3
Yeah we wouldn't want the bosses to be you know...GOOD? Bad bosses is actually a feature for DeS hipsters.
Go play your Bloodborne clone rhythm game then homosexual
What's wrong with that?
>roll in the complete opposite direction
>Am I so moronic I don't know how to do something that even the most basic player can figure out?
>No, it is the lock on who is wrong.
If you roll in the opposite direction in DS3 you're character still attacks what they're locked on to.
You are so fricking moronic you can't figure out how to do something as basic as face towards the enemy before attacking?
>have a lock on
>it's your fault for not facing towards the enemy
Yes? The lock on centers the camera in the direction of the enemy so it's easier to maneuver and pivot around them, not to play the game for you.
You dingus if you cant roll and hit the enemy it's useless.
You literally can you fricking idiot. I'm fully convinced you may actually have double digit iq now.
evidently not. Watch the webm again.
>webm where you literally play like a brain dead moron
you insufferable fricking spastic moron you gibbering ape you mass of excrement wrapped crudely in human skin
what in frick makes you think rolling 50 feet backwards or sideways, away from an enemy, then swinging your 3 foot long sword will make you land a hit
you do not need automatic rocket-assisted rollerskates to propel you forward every single time you attack, just fricking walk or roll forwards or unlock and roll diagonally or something it's not that complicated
this shit is the most obvious bait in the cosmos, especially with how that stupid fricking webm gets reposted all the time, but i can't help it when someone is this criminally moronic
The game should magnetize me to the enemy like Bamham so I hit the enemy every time I attack
then go play bamham instead
Another reason why DS3 controls like shit
moronic babbies need their attacks locked on because they get thrown off by being able to control their own attack direction
Both are shit, because the gameplay mechanics are awful.
>Wait... you're telling me that different games... PLAY DIFFERENTLY? I have to actually make minor adjustments in playstyle like a normal person!? No! That's unacceptable! It's the game's fault, not mine.
>wow these copy pasted enemies and bosses from older fromsoft games are so evocative
>It's literally the only one in the entire game
Nice, you got your opinion from a twitter screenshot?
Armored Spider too.
I'm sure they stopped at 2 though.
>Armored Spider too.
The one in demon's souls is different than ninja blade, end this meme
They both look good
Demons Soulless fricked up a ton of good art designs but that wasn't one of them.
Just saw this
I take that back.
Fricking garbage
It'd be one thing if the remake was trying to fully realize things that weren't originally because of technical/time limitations. If it had been developed in-house by Fromsoft, they could have added the Archstone of the Giants for example.
It's another thing entirely for a third party with no real understanding of the original game deciding for themselves that certain things were "wrong" and needed to be "fixed". There's no thought given to whether something looked the way it did intentionally. In truth, it's about leaving THEIR mark. They can't create their own beloved game, but they CAN supplant the original vision with their own, and because the old game is in old hardware and less likely to be played by the general public, they successfully replace the original with their version.
This was never about "changing things to be better", it was just about "changing things because we can".
I think this image would be better without the epic pwnage text. Just having everything side-by-side is enough to show how shit the remake is. TO BE HONEST.
The Adjudicator Shield change is so ridiculous
>clearly stylized in-world religious image of The Adjudicator passing judgement on the dead
>frick that, it's gotta be an EPIC photorealistic painting of the boss!! oh and I guess there's some bird in the background or something and a guy standing there idk what that's about just add it
>adjudicator fatso for some reason has the piece of blade stuck in his gut in the remake shield image
*breathes in*
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAA BLUEPOINT IS SO moronic
WOW oh my god the right looks way fricking better! How could they do this?
>better
Why did they make him so fat
The remake's soundtrack is so fricking generic it hurts
Why do they keep employing that shitty company
The original's soundtrack is forgettable with the exception of Garland and Maiden's theme
From games always had subpar soundtrack (didnt play bloodborne though)
DeS was always shite. DS fixed everything about it.
I unironically refused to play Dark Souls for the longest time because they took out the kino flavor text below the YOU DIED shit or whenever you killed a boss and because the UI looked like utter fricking garbage compared to Demon's Souls. Also estus flasks are fricking gay and I unironically prefer farming grass and spices. To this day, I've somehow never beaten Dark Souls despite getting like, 3/4th of the way through it, but I've beaten Dark Souls 2, 3, Sekiro, Bloodborne, and Elden Ring multiple times.
>estus flasks are fricking gay
How?
>Limited supply of flasks that you have to manage throughout your journey to the next bonfire
>Can be increased by either spending valuable resources or exploring the game world (which the game is all about)
>Can be upgrades using resources found in the game world (which the game is all about)
>Removes the for farming, instead making you concentrate on areas and bosses
>Helps the developer balance the difficulty well since they know approximately what kind of resources the player has, enabling them to make areas harder and more interesting
vs.
>Limited supply of grass early game, nigh unlimited late game
>Different types, but you can just farm the most valuable types of grass off relatively common enemies as early as mid game
>Farming as punishment is way less fun as opposed to having to explore the area better or rethink your approach
>Since you're going to end up with a lot of grass lategame, the difficulty becomes too high early game and too low mid and late game
I guess it helps I was shit at Demon's Souls since I was 13 or something, so I always had the issue of running out of grass in the late-game. Now that I think about it, maybe it's 13-year old me crying over sour grapes because I was also too poor to afford Dark Souls back then? Ionno; something about being able to frick yourself over for playing badly sits better with me than always having the assurance of never running out of healing supplies. It's sort of like the blood vials in Bloodborne; you can farm blood vials and bullets but after a while enemies will only drop coins. Bloodborne improves on Demon's Souls in that regard, at least.
don't care. estus flasks are the reason why these games are good. each and every one of them that tries to deviatge from the formula and introduce some new healing gimmick fails miserabily.
The only thing DaS fixed is the rolling.
Zoomies are now nostalgic for the brown and bloom era. It's over.
Don't pretend you even like og DeS. You hate remake DeS because it looks better than Elden Ring.
So that's what they meant by saying ER is a spiritual successor to DS2.
haha yeah If I go underground and turn my brightness all the way up the game will look bad haha yeah
>what the frick went wrong with the remake?
Every fricking thing.
The bottom fricking looks like an ASSCreed game, western devs should never touch jap properties.
They also added Black folk for no reason
To be honest I can't understand why Ganker to this day is so spastic about souls games. Maybe it's for that they are the only ones that invoke true dark fantasy experience without romance and save the world bullshit, maybe for the fact that most enemies have unique design that is memorable and gameplay is fun when you get past gitgud phase, also armor design is one of the best to ever exist in a fantasy game. But the gameplay, ooooh the gameplay, especially controls are just made with a controller in mind first, pc ds1 plays like shit compared to sekiro or bloodborne, no fluid movement, almost tank like controls, even old monster hunter feels million times better to control, and the fricking camera, i just hate it, especially in tight corridors, it's fricking garbage. But the souls anons defend it like it's their mother getting insulted, I just don't know why it's so bad with them when you point out obvious flaws that naturally, every old post-6th gen console game has.
Feels good to be proven right in retrospect fellow bloom chads
>what the frick went wrong with the remake?
I-it's not on PC!
>get another bluepoint demake designed by people with no respect for the source material
>anybody who complains is secretly [other side]
Why do you go to bat for an inferior remake so hard?
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/uhrih-orEo127KAy4qm_7g/
MINDBROKEN HOLY SHIT
>fromhomosexuals BTFO by based western superior graphics
cope and seethe
Well they didn't screw up the world 5 I guess and Boletaria looks fine if you don't count the Black person enemies which are just so frusration so and just fun to kill most painful way possible.
botched art direction by a team of foreigners who don't have the same creative vision as the original creators, kind of shitty for Sony to ask Bluepoint to remake such an iconic game in the eyes of fans and not involve From Software at all, but that's just another example of anti Japanese racism Sony seems to indulge in if they think it will make them a few extra dollars