Demon's Souls - Level-based world with unique mechanics such as World Tendency
Dark Souls 1 - New world, known for it's early level design, focus on more interconnectivity.
Dark Souls 2 - Original story and world, new mechanics that both enhance and downgrade certain gameplay elements.
Bloodborne - Darker atmosphere with a heavier emphasis on aggressive close quarter combat and cosmic horror.
Dark Souls 3 - uhh.. anor londo again.. and uh... remember Andrew the blacksmith?? Siegward onion bro!! gwyn OST!!
Sekiro - Complete overhaul of the Combat system, even heavier emphasis on Combat and bosses, reducing weapon variety to none and focusing on skills and a side-toolset.
Elden Ring - Different World structure, focused emphasis on freedom, scale, variety and an abundance of unique areas to explore.
Eternal reminder that the only people who love and twerk for Dark Souls 3 are 100% those who got into souls with the game, the game offers absolutely nothing new or unique whether in structure, design, approach to world/adventure/exploration or story. It's a game thrown quickly together just within a year of Bloodborne's release (and like 4 months after Old Hunter's DLC) which shows where their priorities and care laid when you compare BB and it's DLC to the basic roll spam simulator that is Dark Souls 3 - Miyazaki got the call from Bandai with an opportunity to make some quick bucks.
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i started with dark souls 1, 2 is fricking trash garbage. Dark souls 3 is just bloodborne with a dark souls skin but its still better than the abortion that is 2. Literally the only thing 2 has going for it was that the multiplayer was good.
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im as white as the come
>im as white as the come
No you're not ESL.
The whitest people in the world are ESL, actually.
The brittons are not white, let alone the mutts in america.
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Fpbp. 3 wasn't great but it was still better than 2.
>i started with dark souls 1
into the trash your opinion goes
frick off yoda
No one will be mad at you for speaking that truth, we all know this is 100% accurate.
fpbp
ds2 contrarians are mentally ill
>ds2 contrarians are mentally ill
isn't it obvious
oh goody GOODY a sssoulsborne thread I'm SURE this will be most enlightening and full of stale 'ideas' at all!
>i started with dark souls 1, 2 is fricking trash garbage
And there it fukn is, and it's the first goddamn post to boot.
It's been ten years you polarized shit-for-brains, DaS2 isn't trash. It's a solid seven.
DaS3 is a glorified boss rush fan mod with more by-the-numbers filler levels than good ones.
2 gave us cloth physics, it was MUCH better optimized for PC, and it has the most adventurous soul of the bunch in spite of being the one to cement being able to teleport from the fricking start.
DaS2 is still the ONLY game that allows you to properly dual-wield weapons. Frick outa here peanut head.
A solid 7 on what, the IGN metric?
No you stupid frick.
ADP is a good idea. Fricking fight me you two-button homosexual
>variable iframes is a good idea
are you mentally moronic
It's an imperfect tweak, sure, but it's better than what BB foisted onto us for all time- with the exception of Sekiro ofc- and BB is my favorite of the lot.
It helped to diversify builds- or it should have. The fact that 95% of the playerbase went for Ser Roll Arwan the Mightystupid regardless is not the game's fault.
And no, I'm not mentally moronic. Are you?
how does making iframes a skill diversify builds you mentally moronic Black person
If you want to be nimble and phase through shit like a spacetime wizard you spec in being nimble you complete and utter cretin frick, how the frick else
that doesn't make any sense and it's because you're a moronic Black person
requiring points in order to get iframes limits build variety, not improve it. you're a drooling moron and should be castrated so you don't accidentally procreate
your posts boil down to 'NO THATS STUPID AAAAGH Black folk'
You have nothing of import to say.
I'd tell you to have a nice day but I like your family and your one friend better than that.
Stop replying to me.
you suffer from mental deficits and should be locked in a cell
You ARE locked in a cell and should have your barriers smashed down by force so that you can be saved from yourself
>Rolling is already a shittier option than others. If you are rolling you are forfeiting your aggressiveness and DPS and creating a vulnerability window.
Yes and No. Agreed vis a vis aggression, hell I go full endo in Bloodborne so I can be an advancing wall of pain that NEVER gives an inch.
Rolling should be one tool in your belt, or at least so it is when I'm playing, but that's me. If you want to solve all of your problems with two buttons- roll and light attack- then I will fight for your right to do so, but don't reduce every single goddamned encounter in the game to those two possibilities for everybody, if you don't fricking mind.
ds2 gays are mentally ill
why not make using estus a stat requirement while you're at it
You didn’t know estus is controlled by ADP in Ds2
now there's a mothafrickin interesting idea
what are the chances
give Estus low base requirements to even use at all
let's say vit vig fai int res end
and make its animation speed scale with agility
and its effectiveness scale with fai, res, int, end, in that order
so are we gonna cook or what mr white
Estus speed (and most other item use animation speeds) already scale with agility in DS2
I know that brother
What this
knuckle-dragging needle dick meant was being able to drink estus at all, not improving one's character's hand-eye coordination
>I dont know how you would even define that
My use of the word 'soul' should've clued you in to the fact that, well, neither do I. Not concisely. It's a tough one to net, and that's likely a good thing.
It's the closest in vibe to the King's Field games, especially 2 (3 in Japan) and Ancient City, and I love me some King's Field unironically. There's an odd deliciousness to being lost in these janky, videogamey halls and boxes that somehow does not pull you out of the game, but actually makes it more immersive.
And I was shocked at myself when you mentioned Demon's.. but then I remembered that Demon's is limited by the fact that it's a level-select game. You still have to teleport out of the Lord Soul bossrooms in Dark Souls 2 unless you want to take the long (and sometimes impossible) trek back to Majula, and there's no real point in doing so.
>It's an imperfect tweak, sure, but it's better than what BB foisted onto us for all time-
No, it's moronic and shows the designers don't understand Dark Souls. Rolling is already a shittier option than others. If you are rolling you are forfeiting your aggressiveness and DPS and creating a vulnerability window. Making rolling unrealible and arbitrary only makes sure the player has to invest into them to avoid rolling through attacks impossible to dodge and makes it hard to create balanced enemies. In fact, it was so bad for Fromsoftware that ever since they standardized iframes into a single value and gave to lighter dodges more spacing power as additional value, which massively improved Elden Ring combat and boss design.
>Rolling is a bad option
>So making rolling worse means that DS2 is somehow designed to be more reliant on rolling compared to DS3 and ER, which had much more powerful rolling and many enemies and bosses with many attacks you absolutely must roll through
>Also here's a webm of someone evading a DS2 enemy with wide sweeping attacks even without rolling
You are insane
is a bad option
>>So making rolling worse means that DS2 is somehow designed to be more reliant on rolling compared to DS3 and ER, which had much more powerful rolling and many enemies and bosses with many attacks you absolutely must roll through
The reason why in Dark Souls 2 roll and R1 are more prevant isn't aboit how reliable and powerful rolling is but the lack of other viable options
>>Also here's a webm of someone evading a DS2 enemy with wide sweeping attacks even without rolling
it just shows how dull sidestrafing in Dark Souls 1 is and why it is no less braindead than rolling
>but don't reduce every single goddamned encounter in the game to those two possibilities for everybody
Which is what Dark Souls 2 lead to
It's Dark Souls 3 initially and finally Elden Ring that upgraded and opened up the combat. You are much less forced and incentivized to use dodging in Dark Souls 3 (because of hyperarmor tied to attack frames and attack tracking exclusively on wind up) and Elden Ring (because of all the other improvements) than in all previous Souls games.
>Which is what Dark Souls 2 lead to
No, it's what BB led to.
The kind of morons who blew $4000 on a pc to play Minecraft and then held out and are still holding out on a PS4 on a variously irrational principle wanted to play BB, so they got BB at home. BB was the beginning of the end. Sekiro crystallized it in the best of possible ways.. and then we got Dark Souls 4: You wanted Big, We gave you Fat.
>No, it's what BB led to.
Wrong, unlike Dark Souls 2, Bloodborne experimented a lot with offensive options, stagger and trading attacks, a lot of that same philosophy went into Dark Souls 3 and evolved into Elden Ring which made the game great.
Dark Souls 2 showed the need of such changes but being a stale and shallow roll&poke game where even a katana swordsman is virtually the same as a giant armored paladin and the player just rolls and attacks at them.
and then Dark Souls 3: We have BB at Home came out.
and then, thankfully, Sekiro came out
and then Dark Souls 4 came out.
I'm saying BB was great- the best, if you ask me- too great.
No dev who has ever made a proper hitbox would ever design a boss to have a weapon like this.
that's why people call ds2 the game made by fromsofts janitors while the real team was making Bloodborne.
>Another hollow king 2 times as tall as you with a magic sword
Dark Souls 2 is truly an uninspired piece of shit
I can't wait until we graduate from DS2 hate and start shitting on elden ring
>and it has the most adventurous soul of the bunch
I dont know how you would even define that but no it doesn't, under any reasonable definition I can think of. It's just a mess with no focus and an inconsistent world you blindly wander in that people defend with "b-b-b-but muh time is complex...". And then the story just decides to end once you overcome the insurmountable obstacle that is that one small pile of rubble and beat the final boss. Plus it introduces the warp from the start thing like you said. If anything DaS1 feels the closest to an adventure but thats not saying much either.
>that people defend with "b-b-b-but muh time is complex...".
Literally who are you quoting
fpwp
2 haters have to let it go. Its been awhile, its not cool to hate it anymore.
Its the best and people will think otherwise if they dont know better and will not give it a chance.
3 is the worst but even then wouldnt advise to skip it.
3 is fricking kino an I'm tired of pretending otherwise
Dark Souls 2 was a huge improvement over 1
>least linear in the series
>most diverse environments in the series
>longest in the series
>most amount of weapons in the series
>most amount of armor and customization in the series
>biggest build variety in the series
>most amount of magic/miracles/hex/pyros
>best online mode in the series
>easiest to start a build in the series
>best girls in the series
>best and most SOULful covenants
>dual wielding and power stance
>respec
>offers rewards for fun challenges such as no death run
>NG+ has new enemies/items/events and some remixed bosses
>the only game in the series which doesn't force you to grind
>3 weapon slots in each hand
>4 ring slots
>reddit hates it
QOL improvements introduced by Dark Souls 2
>you can skip logos at startup (without mods)
>R3 to jump
>you can choose how many of the same item you want to consume at the same time
>weapon durability bar below weapon icon
>inventory items displayed in grids instead of list
>climb ladders faster and being able to let go of ladders
>roll through doors to open them faster
>can turn a specific area to NG+ mode (Bonfire Ascetic)
>can continue your playthrough after beating the last boss and can choose when to start NG+
>controller vibrates when summoned
Oh god the cope is overflowing this thread is about to blow!
That's about as much effort as the OP will put into this thread, posting stale copypasta he made a year ago
>Literally the only thing 2 has going for it was that the multiplayer was good.
ah yes so the hundreds of hours beyond the 40-50 each game has in it
/thread
you can't /thread your own post just because people are disagreeing you, silly little gayet
who disagrees with him?
I'm having a threesome with your mom and dad and we're having an icecream break and we all hold the post in question in the deepest contempt, I'll have you know.
And can you PLEASE get a regular-ass keyboard you autistic fricking frick, nobody is impressed with your clicky-clacking.
The boy is up twelve hours a day and all he does is clicky-clack in his musty dirty-socks-and-old-semen smellin ass room, I swear to god he ain't right.
2's multiplayer WAS fun then they nerfed the bat staff because the player base was a bunch of crybabies.
fromsoft always nerfs magic after initial release, I don't know why but all souls games they've nerfed magic after a few weeks
Not ER shit got buffed. Only nerf was to kamehameha
Right because ER isn't a real game
Yeah, ER is more like 3 games in 1 considering it has as much content as DS1+DS2+DS3.
You wish any of the unfinished moron features for that baby casual game worked
More isn't automatically better.
The legacy dungeons are fricking fantastic, but the rest is a crap shoot, and you have to engage with it unless you want to be woefully underleveled or miss two-thirds of all the unique equipment and magicks.
>The legacy dungeons are fricking fantastic
nobody that has played a souls game before elden ring thinks this
How's that?
reread my post
There's nothing to fricking reread you yellow belly frick. Do you want to elaborate or don't you?
gay
I thought so you poofta
Piss off
Cope
N-No! You are supposed to praise DS2 for being different despite being dogshit!
simplistic unfunny idiot post
reductionist hipster homosexual post
Why do you wienersuckers even bother?
Are you this attention-starved, or are you twelve years old, or both? Good God.
>cannot even conjure up a single argument in favor of his game, just insults others
Lmao
First post best post
Switch dark souls 3 with Bloodborne and we have a deal. Not even shitposting. Bloodborne is inferior from a gameplay and ease of usage point of view. DS3 was the culmination of what they learned originally and them Elden Ring got the crown passed to it when it released. I understand people like to gloss over this because they really enjoy the story and visuals of Bloodborne but gameplay wise its inferior to what came after it
Nah, Dark Souls 3's roll is busted and trivializes the game, and the Estus Flask is broken allowing you to get insane heals off incredibly quick with no punishment. Then there's the pay to win anime items from the dlc that are straight upgrades to anything in the basegame (Millwood Greatbow, Gael's Sword ,etc)
Not to mention literally every weapon in Dark Souls 3 is a downgrade to Bloodborne's weapons in animation, design, and usefulness.Bloodborne would never allow there to be an entire class of terrible whip weapons
>Diet Bloodborne is better than Bloodborne
Do DS3 zoomers really?
These shitty bait threads are eternal. Even a thousand years from now when everyone's shut away in their pods, immersed in some kind of full dive VR metaverse thing, they'll still be a handful of homosexuals on Ganker shitposting about Dark Souls
Never change bros
outside of this shitty site filled with mentally ill chinkoids and weebs nobody cares or obsesses over dark souls trash
I started playing from Dark Souls since I had no PS3 to play DeS. I liked DS3 specifically, because it was just a big recall to previous titles, but polished.
It had some of my favourite bosses and it had Farron sword and Gael's sword, which are just fun to use.
It wasn't perfect, but enjoyment far outweighted the flaws.
That is precisely why I disliked it. It doesn't stand on its own. Gameplay is too BB-esque as well.
personally i loved DS3. it's my favorite Souls game by far.
>Original story and world, new mechanics that both enhance and downgrade certain gameplay elements.
I don't like DS2, but after DS3 and ER I can repsect them trying something that was actually different.
i played 1 on release, liked it.
2 on release, liked it.
played bloodborne for the first time like 3 years ago, got bored immediately.
played dark souls 3 like 5 years ago. did what i think was most of it, but got annoyed at the third poison swamp level so i quit.
played elden ring when it came out and liked it
havent played sekiro yet.
rollslop is rollslop, simple as
RollSoul is great, and you are mad because you are shit at video games, and probably a tendie homosexual
you don't roll much in bloodborne ya dingus
>roll
>sekiro
moron alert
>I can repsect them trying something that was actually different.
Er reuses a good chunk of DS2's ideas it tried to implement like powerstance and the stone statues and they work well, even when ER's focus isnt the autistic boss fights it still had extra combat mechanics and variety which DS3 also lacks because you're roll spamming half the time
>Er reuses a good chunk of DS2's ideas it tried to implement like powerstance and the stone statues and they work well
Elden Ring reuses dual weapons, which it simply applies to all weapon classes
>even when ER's focus isnt the autistic boss fights it still had extra combat mechanics and variety
All Souls games had as major focus fighting and combat, and all of them gradually improved
>which DS3 also lacks because you're roll spamming half the time
Dark Souls 3 pioneered the stagger system that will later be adopted by Elden Ring and began adopting the design philosophy of giving area of effect, combos requiring directional dodging and limited the tracking of attacks after their wind up which is actually very much present in Dark Souls 2 because those attacks are too slow. All those concepts have been later expanded into Elden Ring, which added many refinements and learned more from Dark Souls 3 by improving skills, adding jumps and guard counters, improving boss design and standardizing stagger to create a dynamic and enjoyable fights and a really great combat system.
Dark Souls 2 bosses are garbage because you are circlestrafing and rollspamming. Almost every boss has endless poise and aoe attacks are so limited and rare you never have to account for your positioning. Even in the base game of Dark Souls 3 the spinning move of the Dancer or the rain of arrows of Aldrich requires actual arena management and for you to run or frick with the limited angle of tracking. There's nothing of the sort in Dark Souls 2. It's usually some big dude in armor with very slow swings, usually with an optimal avoidance technique which is really boring (see Pursuer, Veldstad,...)
So no, Dark Souls 2 combat was really shitty and in no way better than its successors, regardless of how rushed Dark Souls 3 was
why do people not act like circle strafing is positioning? it's better than rolling, it's literally the most proactive use of positioning. midir is the best souls boss not because of strafing but because it's the ultimate positioning test.
Midir is the worst boss in the DLC, it's just a test of your fricking patience for its insane health pool and bullshit instant knockdown dragon fire.
literally just hit the head and then you can riposte it near the end to take out a fifth of the bar.
>Literally just hit the thing that's 30 feet in the air and positions you to get fricked if it decides to do its one move that's even remotely dangerous, its instant knockdown frick you fire
I don't know what boss you've been fighting but Midir literally gives you countless opportunities to hit its head during the battle. If you're having trouble with the fire, maybe don't get hit by it. It's seriously that simple.
>why do people not act like circle strafing is positioning?
Because it only works properly and isn't a dumb AI cheese in Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring
>It's better than rolling
It's extremely dull, and Dark Souls 2 bosses in general are very dull
>No it didn't.
Yes it did, several bosses in Dark Souls 3, including Old Demon King, Twin Princes, Pontiff, Gael,..., can be staggered just like ER bosses. Elden Ring expanded that as general mechanic across all enemies because Fromsoftware has been, since Dark Souls 3, shifting towards a more dynamic combat system instead of the boring roster of very slow bosses that you hit with foam sticks during their recovery like Roll Souls 2. This is considered the best Dark Souls 2 boss
>Are two of the most moronic attacks in the entire game, which boil down to, "stop engaging with the boss and run away for 30 seconds".
You can adopt several ranged options depending on your build, unlike say, Nakja which just fricks off underground, and they are an extention and evolution of the mechanics of some Dark Souls 1 bosses where you could lock yourself in a corner or not properly read the enemy in time and get punished. In both cases you can manipulate tracking or buy spacing, and that evolved into Midir slashing and fire breath combos, several Gael and Friede attacks that can be smartly dodged right behind their backs with smart positioning all the way to Waterfowl.
Dark Soula 3 did a lot more as evolution of the formula and shows Fromsoftware completely changed direction from Dark Souls 2
>Yes it did, several bosses in Dark Souls 3 can be staggered just like ER bosses
Except it wasn't just like ER bosses. In DS3 there were a few bosses that gave you the opportunity for a cinematic finisher if you got their health low enough. They didn't have posture, that mechanic literally did not exist until Sekiro. Also Gael is literally just rolling and hitting for all three of his phases, and he's (rightly) considered one of the best bosses in the franchise, so I'm not sure why you're complaining about basic game mechanics.
>You can adopt several ranged options depending on your build,
No, absolutely fricking not, especially for Aldritch. For dancer you hide behind a pillar while she's spinning, for Aldritch you fricking run, because stopping to try to fire off a spell (which will do no damage because lol, magic in DS3) will get you immediately shredded by the homing arrow attack.
>Except it wasn't just like ER bosses. In DS3 there were a few bosses that gave you the opportunity for a cinematic finisher if you got their health low enough. They didn't have posture
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>Also Gael is literally just rolling and hitting for all three of his phases, and he's (rightly) considered one of the best bosses in the franchise, so I'm not sure why you're complaining about basic game mechanics.
Wrong, there's a lot of movement you can do, all his attacks have less tracking than most Dark Souls 2 bosses despite the faster wind up, provided you can move around him. Gael is good exactly because it can be easily defeated with no rolling by staying constantly up close
>No, absolutely fricking not, especially for Aldritch.
skill issue, It takes nothing to throw a firebomb
>Dark Souls 3 pioneered the stagger system
No it didn't. Sekrio did. The most DS3 added was letting you guard break for a critical hit, which was irrelevant for almost all enemies.
>Even in the base game of Dark Souls 3 the spinning move of the Dancer or the rain of arrows of Aldrich
Are two of the most moronic attacks in the entire game, which boil down to, "stop engaging with the boss and run away for 30 seconds". Luckily these types of attacks did not return in elden ring.
>Dark Souls 3 pioneered the stagger system
>No it didn't. Sekrio did
You could stagger large bosses and beasts in Bloodborne. It's right at the start of the game with Cleric Beast. It's even more complex than the games after because it's about limb damage and then coming up with your own riposte because the visceral attack is not that good in most cases.
Bloodborne stagger system was nothing like Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring because it worked purely off damage dealt
All Souls games have hitboxes like that, you can stagger Gael with a single headshot
based
you cucks can keep your clunky-by-design combat
>roll
>sekiro and Bloodborne
moron?
about your ds1 map
1/2
2/2
do i need to say more or will the
>Its a liminal dream kino! Its otherwordly!
cope come in
The ds2 gay has no response to this not like it would matter, there is no cope that can defend this.
Dark souls 2 was the first backrooms, no wonder it connects so much to troony zoomers.
DS1 has several intersections between levels as well, you can mark them by droping items, then seeing them float in the sky.
DS2 would've been better as a DeS style archestone based game, since that what the 4 lord soul branches really are.
Though the Majula hole and navigating the drops to the Gutter was pretty kino, much more interesting then a fricking teleporter.
>hole just goes to shittier blight town copy and ends in one of the ugliest visual levels fromsoft ever made
Anon you just cant carelessly ptsd our ds1 cultists reminding them of the second half of the game with examples like bed of chaos or should i say all of lost izalith, they always leave those out of convenience out of fear
DS2's map is more of a pile of sticks because all the locations that a completely disconnected in the world overlaping each other.
>Pile of Sticks
>DS2’s map layout is best represented as an actual homosexual
Heh
heh
Dark Souls 2 is the only good souls game
>Dark Souls 2 - Original story
Dark Souls 2 was singlehandlely the worst stain Souls lore ever got
>what if we took the Ages of Fire and Dark and made them a cycle so that nothing ever means anything
When Dark Souls 1 rolled around the age of dark was a great unknown there was no coming back from. Your choices were to delay or finally embrace the inevitable
>and made them a cycle
They didn't. Dark souls 2 never says that the age of dark ever happened.
Dark Souls 3 was a consolation prize for xbox/pc for not getting Bloodbourne. As was Dark Souls PTDE as a consolation for Demon's Souls. You can't really criticize one and not the other, but go off DS2 coper.
But DeS is shit
It's all so tiresome
DS2 had better bosses than DeS and better levels than DaS and DeS. The only things it did worse were crummy animations and having inferior map interconnectivity to DaS.
What a strange reply.
>vastly downgraded graphics/level design
infinitely better than the grey slop of DS3
>world design
level design is actually shit in ds2 yet it has still more uninque areas than castle #1, castle ledge #2.. LE ANOR LONDO!!! and here's Painted World again!
>enemy design
literally better than DS3's
>main game bosses
fair they are ass but then again so are BB's base game bosses
id take the experimental mess over a shameless grey roll spamming copy paste all day every day
>[inferiority complex intensifies]
>infinitely better than the grey slop of DS3
DS2 has better visual designs than 3 but much, MUCH worse graphics. Although the lighting engine is better, at least in SOTFS
>level design is actually shit in ds2
Wrong, level design is good. Level design in DS3 is actually a bit better, even if the visuals of the levels are totally uninspired and almost universally gross. Level theming is not level design though.
>fair they are ass
Are they more ass than any of the other games before elden ring? I'd say not really. The issue is that it doesn't have any real standout bosses like O&S or the Twin Princess.
The thing I miss most about Dark Souls 2 is that it is actually the last game we got that had weighty movement and combat. They still have returned to those highstakes.
>fair they are ass but then again so are BB's base game bosses
There is not a single bad boss in Bloodborne's main game or DLC.. The only bad boss is Cursed Fetid Rotted Depth 5 Rom the Vacuous Spider.
>literally brings up ds3 exactly as predicted
you can't make this up
>thread is about ds3
>wooooooow why are you bringing up ds3
Sekiro is not a fricking souls game
It works for what FS does. Hell, I'd add AC6 to games in the souls mold now. Repair kits are just estus flasks. QB is just dodgerolling.
>original souls/action IPs
all kino, win awards, sell a lot, loved by most
>dogshit sequels 2 and 3 no one asked for
most hated, autistic contrarians fighting over which one is the worst (they both are)
no wonder Mitsubishi never wants to make sequels
based and real
frick elden ring 2, give me a piracy focused soulslike or something in a modern apocalyptic setting like smt
I've skipped DS2 because you bozos said it was trash. What if I missed out on the best game in the series?
You didn't. It is trash, both versions.
Only contrarians call it good
SOTFS is as good as DS1 and 3. Just don't play vanilla DS2.
>SOTFS is as good as DS1 and 3
take this (you) and shove it up your bussy, homosexual
It genuinely is a bad game. Not even "a bad souls game", it's just a poorly made video game.
Play it if you liked King's Field any. Play it if you like adventure, overcoming traps and dangerous odds. Play it if you like making classic RPG adventure characters.
Do not play it if you like epic boss battles that push you skills to the limits. Do not play it if you like grand conspiratorial level design. Do not play it if you want a good story or endearing characters.
DS2 has a great story (in SOTFS) and characters (even in vanilla)
If you're used to the way Dark Souls handles story, then sure. Still, there's no act structure or ramping up of narratives or stakes or any kind of catharsis or closure. I agree the LORE is good, but Mirror Knight doesn't quite hit like O&S does.
I agree that DS2 has worse pacing than DS1 and DS3. In fact DS3's pacing is probably my favorite thing about it. But SOTFS does have a very intelligent story about identifying and rejecting false assumptions underlying our understanding of what is important and what we "need" to do. That's what the game is really about, recognizing that our curse is not that we have not yet completed our sacred mission, but that we have been fooled and enthralled into acting for the benefit of a nebulous party to which we owe nothing, and by recognizing this we can reclaim the sovereignty of our souls. Become a "monarch", truly independent of will.
i fricking love that DaS2 postures this idea. it's a unique spin on the cycle of rebirth that DaS introduced for me, which led to DaS3 being more of a piggyback off of DaS1. DaS2 is my favorite because of how much it built for itself.
>Play it if you liked King's Field
nobody likes king's field
>I've skipped DS2
Play it. You will probably like aspects of it if you like the other games. Its definitely the weakest souls along with 3.
It’s genuinely just brain damaged youtube kids who like the le epic pvp and aren’t very discerning anyway that claim it’s good. DS2 was embarrassing to release after DeS and DS.
2 is okay with co-op. what nobody tells you on either side is that the game is designed to be as malicious to new players as possible. i don't know why. just keep it in mind if you do think about it, you can probably get it cheap now so it's not a huge loss if you hate it, and i had around 15 hours of fun on a 100 hour playthrough (i like to go slow) where the rest was a major slog. it's no dark souls 1 but you might enjoy it, the pvp and fashion is pretty cool actually.
this is the one and only good thing that ever came out of Dark souls 2
dude i fricking love happy souls
If you didnt you have something wrong with you, Happy Souls is.. SOUL
Ds2 is still a shit game
both happy souls and dark souls 2 are 3/5.
not great, not bad, nice ride, thumbs up
Don't forget that DS2 was also a pretty blatant retread. Not only is there no subtlety about the "prepare to die" theme, you literally fight ornstein again and it opens up with reincarnations of the four lords. It's an original setting outside of the dragon's memories, the plot is a sequel to AotA. I like 2 better than 3 though but it genuinely feels like a fan game.
As a kings field fan it felt like a rebranding of a botched remake.
People always bring up the ornstein thing as though it's a major event and not some one off minor boss in an optional corner of the map guarding a PVP covenant, it didn't even say it was actually him (From even confirmed it wasn't really him in DS3). It's not like DS3 didn't also have the "kill 4 lords to unlock the endgame" structure and didn't have you fight actual Gwyndolin in actual Anor Londo
>Andrew the blacksmith??
stop letting the device you are using "correct" you, anon. It's weakwilled behaviour for brainlets
Butthurt DS2 gay at it again? Also why is Sekiro there and not Demon Souls, it isn’t a souls game. Neither is Dark souls 2 tbf
I wish DS3 had some of the mechanics ER eventually got, either jump attacks, dedicated stance bar (so charged attacks actually do something) or the guard counter shit, you just end up roll > 2h poke > roll 2h poke with a greatsword and chargeds dont do frick all unlike in bloodborne
odd because even with all the new incomplete features in elden ring everything is still roll and r1
Yeah if you want to, difference is there is a choice in ER and it's pretty much al l you do in DS3
I'm the maker of this webm and I want to say that I'm embarassed with my fashion, I don't know what I was think there exactly lol.
I stand by the fact that to have enjoyed DS2 you could have only played it as your very first souls game, or be completely blind. If you play it in intended order then it’s a massive downgrade from DS1 and Demon souls in a multitude of ways completely shitting over the careful design of DS1 for both an easier and more tedious and annoying and more soulless experience. If you play it last like most people did upon hearing it’s not great then it’s even worse because you have a whole franchise to compare it to which it falls even more on its face on, it’s the worse in every single possible aspect when compared to every other entry. You can still enjoy it, most do including me, but it’s definitely the most irritating and worst entry in the franchise.
You have never played demon souls
I did and he's right
Demon souls has the excuse of being the very first where they were testing the waters and getting a feel, what excuse does DS2 have to go back and frick up everything when DS1 exists and perfected the formula.
>what excuse does DS2 have to go back and frick up everything when DS1 exists and perfected the formula.
it doesn't need an excuse when it's detractors will admit to enjoying it in their inane rants
It didn't "frick up everything" it had poorly done world inter-connectivity, shit animations, and no proper climax. That's it. In every other way it was at least as good as DS1.
>it didn’t frick up anything
>lists some major frick ups of the game
Anon do I even need to list everything else you proved it for me
No, a major frick up would be, to name a random example, forgetting to turn off the bloodborne moonlight filter when making the next game, making every single level in the game look moist and weird
Never heard this complaint from anyone but DS2 trannies with very cherry picked webms.
But hey, let’s list some of DS2 not frick ups
>Broke healing system
>Best PVP but completely fricked Invaders by not having a full eye orb so they need to tediously grind
>Bosses are all copied from Dark souls 1 lords in design and lore, sometimes literally the same people, and the others are dudes in armor over and over and over again
>Worst bosses in the series by a wide margin
>Worst run backs in the series, probably the entire reason they were phased out as the series went on
>Horrible hit boxes that completely break the game and some bosses https://youtu.be/yDicGBTRp1Q?si=xGnNVI3A7CC9aAnD
>Worst DLC in the entire series, some bosses are just copied bosses from the main game (Elena, Smelter demon, etc) and in one DLC it copies the same boss twice in the same area it was introduced (Kings pet) with the worst runback ever, and they made you pay money for this
>fricked up the directional movement
>fricked up fall damage making minor trips lead to your death
I could go on forever
>Broke healing system
No, it's a great healing system, and going back to instant healing was incredibly lame
>but completely fricked Invaders by not having a full eye orb so they need to tediously grind
Yeah this was shit
>Bosses are all copied from Dark souls 1 lords in design and lore, sometimes literally the same people,
There is literally one boss from dark souls 1, who has a new and more aggressive moveset, and he was a minor, optional boss and also not even actually the same guy
>Worst bosses in the series by a wide margin
They aren't worse than DeS or DaS, or even most of DS3. Like sure, Twin Princes and SoC kick the shit out of any DS2 boss, but most of DS3 is awful gimmick bosses.
>Worst run backs in the series,
Get good
>Horrible hit boxes
All of the actually bad looking ones here are due to a grab attack related glitch which hasn't been fixed even in elden ring.
>Worst DLC in the entire series,
They're fantastic. The worst DLC is Ashes of Ariandel
>Elena,
Is not copied from the main game, but is just an actually good version of the main game's crappy final boss
>with the worst runback ever,
These are co-op gimmick levels and only one of them (iron passage) was actually bad
>fricked up the directional movement
It was fine
>fricked up fall damage
Literally what are you talking about lmao
>its a great healing system
Stopped reading, didn’t need to. Troon out
>Being a troon is when you think it's lame to be able to instantly recover half your health bar with a 5 frame animation
why have healing items during combat if they don't heal you during combat
They do. You just need to actually try. Hell, at least in DS1 the estus animation was kinda long. But in DS3 and ER, it's impossible to punish, enormously hurting PVP, especially invasions.
>if you try harder the items heal faster
that's not how it works moron
I was obviously referring to how healing gems also had much longer use animations meaning you couldn't pop it out between an enemy's swings.
>Ds3 and ER it’s impossible to punish
>it’s impossible to punish healing in DS3 and ER
I already know you’re going to comment some cherry-picked clip but come the frick on homie
It's true. The animation is so fast and the healing is instant so you really can't do anything about it.
Ds2 is such a slow game and you can use multiple healing gems at once and use them while moving
No but being a troon is thinking having access to 100+ estus is a good thing and doesn’t completely break combat. And you can instantly recover you bar with a button press and mild waiting. It takes a second or so max anon there’s not much difference. Lifegems destroyed the careful balance of Estus in both combat and exploration.
>access to 100+ estus
Except healing gems aren't estus. They have long animations and slow healing over time effects. They aren't get out of jail free cards like estus is, especially in DS3 and ER.
>the careful balance of Estus
Fricking lmao. Yeah, having higher effective health than the boss is totally balanced
Also no, DS1 did not "perfect" anything. It was horribly balanced, most of the bosses barely do anything, the covenants were broken, and several of the areas were brazenly unfinished. Of course it was still great in spite of these flaws.
>ds2 troony is currently seething mad because they got BTFOd
DS2 was your first, wasn’t it anon.
DS2 was not my first nor is it my favorite From game. If I had to rank, it would be
ER > BB > Sekiro > DS1 = DS2 > DS3 > DeS
And it stops being interconnect at sens fortress so it's greatest genius design isn't even true for most of the game
>I stand by the fact that to have enjoyed DS2 you could have only played it as your very first souls game, or be completely blind.
>You can still enjoy it, most do including me
so which is it? was it your first souls game or are you blind?
Or are you just an emotional moron that can't even proofread his shit?
There’s differing levels of enjoyment moron, I think it’s only meh while some think it’s the best ever and completely over shadows every other entry. Those people are complete morons, and so are you.
>there's differing locations of goalpost, moron
uh huh, right. I'm the moron calling you out for openly contradicting yourself like a dumbfrick.
All you had to do was use a synonym
>it’s the worse in every single possible aspect when compared to every other entry
it has the coolest shortcut though even if it doesn't really make sense at all. actually the weird level gimmicks are an advantage, like iron keep having those platforms you can lure enemies onto then drop them into the lava, or oil that you can set on fire to help you fight packs of dogs and vangarians.
Ok that was actually pretty soulful tbqh
By this point I legit cannot tell if the meme and "just pretending to be moronic" trolling has gone too far, or people really managed to brainwash themselves into thinking that Dark Souls 2 isn't the worst soul by a large mile. I used to think it was only trolling, but now I'm not sure.
ADP? Eight points direction snapping? moron hitboxes? moron level design? Infinite free healing items baked into the game? Spam ambushes? You know, 10% of all the issues DaS 2 has?
In case you're not trolling, yes Dark Souls 2 is objectively a bad game, by objective metrics, and in fact if it wasn't a Dark Souls it would have been utterly forgotten, if not ridiculed.
>Got killed instantly in elden ring? Well no shit, you have like 15 vigor in Altus
>What do you mean I have to level adaptability???
have a nice day
Also DS2 had great levels, healing wasn't instant and so required some actual effort, and crying about ambushes reveals the true reason you hate it: you're shit at video games.
Funny, Im not the anon you're replying to but yes I agree Elden Ring has a lot of poor qualities too.
The only two games in the series I struggle to like are 2 and ER.
>Infinite free healing items baked into the game?
The only game with risky healing. In fact Estus should not have been in the game but they threw the casuals a bone. By the way all of teh games have infinite healing.
>the only game with risky healing
>the ONLY game with risky healing
Warning Warning: we are reaching maximum level of cope
op ate too many of these now hes seething loooooooool git gud homosexual
Demon's Sovls is almost 15 years old
I like them all
Bump Elden ring and Ds3 up one and lower Demon souls down one, then make a separate section for Scholar dead last caller (utter shit), and it’s the perfect list
Agreed entirely
swap ER and BB and it's kino
DS2 is the worst because I had the least fun playing it, because it was poorly designed in every area that could be fun (combat, level exploration, bosses, etc etc)
I didn’t have fun playing because I can see the design flaws, had fun playing the others because they had good design, it really is as simple as that.
Odd take because most of the mechanics pionered in DS2 were copied in both DS3 and ER with no changes.
Warning: Cope is at maximum velocity, I repeat Cope is at maximum velocity. The thread can’t take much more!
Swap 3 and 2 and we're good
non numbered souls games are the best. das2 and 3 are dick ass but at least aren't unbearable and can still be fun.
The eternal From debates just like the eternal Monster Hunter debates exist only to waste your time spinning wheels arguing back and forth about personal preference. They go nowhere, the arguments never change, the posters never change, and noone has ever had their opinion changed by them.
Be they made by morons, bots, baitposters or litteral demons, these threads are a containment cell for you to waste all your precious time, anon. Close the thread.
compared to the obsession fromgays have with DaS2, which somehow goes both ways, MH autism is relatively minor
all souls(borne) games are relatively similar in quality with imagined massive differences compared to MH which had (atleast compared to soulsboners) serious gameplay and balance changes
there's actual arguments to be made between something like MHFU, 4 and World but DeS, DaS1, 2, 3 and ER are the same exact game outside of the level of difficulty (DeS and DaS2 being the hardest, then trending exponentially easier from DaS onwards)
Ds2 only looks slightly better in retrospect because in some ways it stuck to Souls fundamentals and had better online mechanics than elden ring
Do not @ me.
>even neutered DS2 looks better than ER with raytracing patch
>needs a mod patch
>still looks worse
Why are DS2 gays so delusional? They only work in vague terms like soul and “well I like it” that could be applied to anything. Whenever they get objective like this they always fall flat.
It is their sonic game. Something about hitching yourself to something others dislike out of contrarianism slowly breaks their psyche. They are all insane and if they were roleplaying as a joke originally they all eventually drank the koolaid.
>Torch held over the head
>Cast shadow as if it is in the face
It doesn't matter that you can make more sources cast shadows (and Dark Souls 2 even failed that), stencil shadows are outdated garbage and fall apart the moment you scrutinize its projection, the level of detail and how they work outside of closed spaces when there's another light source
Elden Ring shadows are dynamic, detailed and accurate
>multiple candles lit
>yet only one shadow
>accurate
kek, hearty chuckle
candles lit
>>yet only one shadow
It's more accurate than Dark Souls II projecting reflections behind buildings and rocks in Shrine of Amana or the shadow of objects incorrectly to real position of the fire casting it.
>Installed a mod for this crap
>Still looks worse than modded Skyrim
what mod?
God I hate how everyone in 2 looks fat and moronic, even the base bodies all look fat, my fricking favorite armor, the predator set you get on top of the Iron Keep tower looks chubby, literally no other souls game had this problem either even Ornstein was fat
>des
>frumpy but realistic
>ds
>clunky but almost always never fat unless intentional
>ds3
>sleek
>bloodborne
>sleeker
>ER
>actual balance
Y'know, I eventually got over the graphics downgrade to an extent, but the worst part about this is that the dragon DESPAWNS. Now in this instance it's just a contrivance that downplays the scene, but it also ties in with another big problem the game has where way to many enemies despawn after death. This is important because it makes a hex that would've been really fun called "dead again" super situational and only useful against trash mobs.
Why do not of these picture ever include demon souls while they keep including Sekiro despite not being a fricking souls game, are you going to put armored in next? At least make your shitty bait consistent.
Because they found an image on google made by a redditor who doesn't know demon's souls exists
Demons Soul's isn't on PS4
It’s to bait sanctimonious responses like yours.
the person that made it is a sekiro shill
reminder that sekiro was a AC6 tier flop and still won game of the year
sekiro and ac6 were successful
they flopped
no
yup, so are you admitting you made the meme? what are the odds the person that makes the shitty memes are in the thread monitoring it with enough attention to spot a post calling them out within 30 seconds?
i didn't make that post you just lied
you sound mentally moronic, which would explain why these threads are moronic mr 30 seconds reply
i'm right
Anyone have that post where a DS2tard admits the game has to be shit to have any kind of difficulty? It was one of my best laughs in 2023
Dark Souls 2 was the origin of it (and 3) nonstop jerking off how great dark souls 1 was and for that I will never call it great
It refuses to stand on its own potential, instead pulling the player through places they've been to in past games going LOOK LOOK LOOK IT'S THE PLACE FROM 1 ISN'T THAT COOL
Instead of expanding on the narrative/endings of 1 it went DUDE CYCLES LMAO
It piggybacked off the git gud crowd's shouting OH MY GOD THE GAME IS SOOOO HAAAARD YOU WILL DIE AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN
Only real homies remember how fricking broken this game was at launch and why the "B-Team" rumour started.
This is based and truthpilled
Ds3 rollspam gays seething
Ds2 pvp on release was the most fun I've had in this series and I hate the pvp
Zoomers btfo
>introducing new things = automatically good
soul memory and adp are pure shit and brought down ds2, cope
Why do people get angry that DS3 had things from DS1? Did you get mad when you played Mario 3 and you fought Bowser as Mario? Were you enraged when you played as Kiryu in Yakuza 4 and went to Kamurocho? I don't get why this pisses people off. It's like being angry at the Master Sword being in a Legend of Zelda game.
I got angry because I thought I wanted Dark Souls but better.
I got Post-Lordvessel Derk Sols: Flailing Screeching morons of the Abyss [exploration optional edition] [featuring twenty Artoriases from the hit game DARK SOUL]
And no butthole, Ondray of Ass-tore-ya and Anor London [winter] don't make up for that shit.
actual schizophrenia
:yawn:
I'd rather be legitimately schizophrenic than a boring milquetoast frick like you, bro. At least I might have an actual conversation then.
>I'd rather be legitimately schizophrenic
guess what moron
??? You'd understand what he meant if you played the games moron
>Why do people get angry that DS3 had things from DS1?
Because it came off as both patronizing and angry, like From was being forced to make a lazy sequel and it was somehow my fault.
All souls games are exactly the same and boring. You guys are just stupid.
Wrong
>you can’t punish healing in ER
>next thread
>healing is too punished in ER because of input reading and boss movements
The flip flop is insane in these threads, ds2 trannies are so delusional
it's called mental illness, legitimately
Stop fricking using Sekiro it’s doesn’t make any god damn sense to include it for fricks sake.
Sekiro>ER>DS1>BB>DeS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DS2>DS3
DeS should be at the bottom, it's R1spam and rollspam trash, even moreso than DS3 because there's no poise or hyperamor on 99% of enemies and weapons.
Wrong
uh huh
this is why they gave malenia superarmor on input by the way
it gets a pass for being first of its kind and ds1 at least changed the world structure
ds2 and especially ds3 however had no business being spam roll simulators, dogshit sequels no one asked for
what about elden ring, it's just copy pasted ds3
it took a few key components from sekiro and became GOTY, speaks volumes
helps that it also has build variety and isn't grey and linear from start to finish, not that it comes close to sekiro
sekiro flopped so I don't see how copy pasting its features into DS3 "speaks volumes"
DS2 has no rollspam because of strict stamina limits that let you chain 4-5 rolls at like 30 END.
DS3 has rollspam but most bosses have attacks specifically timed to catch moronic button mashers with fast combos mixed in delayed attacks.
It was a bit too much like BB, that's why ER dialed the speed down on both players and the bosess by around 40%.
Boohoo homie, Git Gud. Kys homosexual.
sekiro is a meme i still don't know someone irl who has actually play it, they all claim to have but start copypasting shit is feels like a psyop shit at this point
The only people who like 3 dislike all the other games. Should say a lot.
That’s a funny way of spelling a 2
Ds3 gays like all the other games, it’s Ds2 gays who are so insecure they have to bring everyone else down to their level. It’s impossible to enjoy ds3 and it’s story without also having an intense enjoyment of DS1, while it’s required to hate all other games to be able to enjoy DS2 and it’s butt frickery of everything dark souls is.
Ds3 is a rollslop action game
ds2 plays like des and ds1
Er is ds2.5 in mechanics whereas 3 removed them all in favor of rollslop
BB is ds3 but good, and ds3 is for adhd gays
kys cuck
>ds3 is for adhd gays
African man I have adhd and I think 3 is the most boring and floaty
Since when is rolling a bad thing? It’s basically a parry, you skillfully time a dodge to avoid an attack and get to punish and if you fail you get hit for damage. What is the big issue here? That it looks too cool?
DS3 > ER > DS1 > BB > Sekiro > DS2
This is a fact.
In retrospect, DS3 and ER have proven that DS2, desite being very unpolished visually made the right calls to gameplay:
-estus shard/golden seed system
-midroll up to 70% weight
-weight only affecting the length of the roll, not the speed (except fatroll)
-rolling in any direction while locked on
-hit stun limit in PvP to prevent infinite stunlocks
-backstabs have 2 way confirmation via a grab animation
-casting magic also consumes stamina to limit spam
-jumping attacks on all weapons unpariable
-ultra/collosal weapons unpariable except running/rolling attacks
-parry frames active at the apex of the shield swing, not instantly at the start
-guardbreak on a blocking enemy allows for a riposte]
-blue sentinel auto-summon convenant to save hosts from invaders
-upgrade levels are separate from infusions, so you don't need to de-upgrade weapons to change their infusion and waste more titanite
-4 ring slots so you can have some interesting niche synergies instead of having 99% of players just put on Havel's ring and Ring of Favor in the 2 slots
-respec via a limited/rare item
This lame copy pasta again?
Yes those facts about the gameplay mechanics in these games has not changed yet.
Maybe the'll patch all of them out of DS3 and ER by tomorrow, who knows?
None of the shitposting trolls have refuted these.
Because you dont need to, theyve been defeated and debunked countless times. Theyre copypastas anon, theyve been posted for years. As much as Ds2 trannies love facing the same things over and over again, everyone else can tell when its over for a game.
Ds3 has 22 enemy types and half is from ds1
ds2 has 76
ds2 has like 2 more enemy types than 1 moron
>theyve been defeated and debunked countless time
So DS3 and ER don't use estus shards and golden seeds? Elaborare how this was debunked.
cope asf
these copypastas have mf zesty sauce, and if they've been debunked so many times then why has nobody bothered to counter-copypasta them
why would anybody "counter copypasta" something made by a schizophrenic
Fell free to also elaborate how DS3 and ER don't have 4 ring/taliman slots like in DS2.
It was debunked after all, right?
Hello? Why would somebody counter copypasta (whatever the frick that means) something made by a schizophrenic?
You forgot to answer my questions.
Hello? Why would somebody counter copypasta (whatever the frick that means) something made by a schizophrenic?
You just can't because evey single statement is factually correct to anyone that has played these games for more than 2 hours.
Nice ad hominem; nice debunk.
If a schizophrenic can outfox you, what the frick does that make you?
If that's what it takes to put these trash-tier threads to rest for all time then so be it.
So many of the posts on this hellhole are such repellent trite that they might as well be bots. How many times are we gonna go
>"nuh uh."
>"yuh uh!"
Take your dick out of your pants or get the frick out.
>Counter copypasta with a copypasta
>The entire thread is just copypastas and bots
this is what DS2 trannies want btw
This thread was probably created by a BB Black person falseflagging as a DS2 tard.
Nobody actually likes DS2.
This is 100% accurate, unironically. DS3 is their only miss
what's with the schizo samegayging and shitting on ds3 recently? this is so random
>random
this is one of the most formulaic samegay threads on the board and has been around since DS2's release
>having a lot to say is samegayging
I mean it is, but that's a (you) thing and a you problem little homosexual
Your vapid, diet alarmist post contributed frick all to the conversation. You sound like an underaged karen that forgot that it's Halloween at school. Get the frick out.
Somebody has a crush on schizophrenic copypastas.
Keep saying it lmao
Maybe you'll actually sleep tonight
why are you samegayging? you said you got your copypasta from the wiki but I'm not seeing a link
It is a sad irony that you have to be eighteen and up to post here, but also eighteen and down to enjoy it.
Kindly understand how this site works before you carry on further, and talk to a..
Take a spectrum with a priest on one end and a psychiatrist on another, and talk to somebody on that spectrum. Then, come back here. Go to bed.
>REFUTE MY SCHIZOPHRENIC COPYPASTA NOOOOOOOOOW!
>no
>I GOT IT FROM THE WIKI IT'S NOT SCHIZOPHRENIC
>okay post link
>YOU DON'T UDNERSTAND HOW Ganker WORKS
yeesh
Yeesh yourself. Dark Souls is a fine game. You are a fit-in and a poser and an all 'round homosexual. If I were schizophrenic I would likely not have bothered to humor you this long. Now I will find better ways to kill my time. Good night.
>if I was a schizophrenic I wouldn't have defended my year old copypasta by samegayging 3 times and then pissing my pants
You already admitted you were wrong when you acknowledged DS3 has 4 rings slots and Estus Shards, not gonna bother with your disingenious inane posts.
There were only 3 truly bad things I recall from DS2:
>Iron Keep
>Shrine of Amana
>That METAL windmill thing
Besides that I liked it. Great build variety, fun PvP, some really cool areas. Definitely an overhated game.
>an overhated game.
Absolutely, and with good reason. Dark Souls shook down the gaming scene like a schoolyard bully looking for spare change.
From+Bamco followed that up with.. a frankenstein's monster that drank its own koolaid.
No its the right amount of hated, actually it could use with being hated more
:yawn: asf
I'll humor you.
Why?
Make some points if you're going to bother posting you god damn speshul boi coward
Elden Ring is the only good one. Every other game is complete dogshit cause of the runbacks.
HAH
>runbacks
git fukken gud you dumpster goblin
Elden Ring is mediocre pap because your worthless ass can't adapt quickly enough not to put up with runbacks
Only autists enjoy constantly repeating the same actions.
Who the frick cares
Who the frick mentioned autists
Try refuting a point without screeching about bogeymen for once in your life
You can't
No John
You are the autists.
>Who the frick mentioned autists
I did, just now. Autist.
Dark Souls was imo never as much about the combat as it was the world, exploration and obstacles (of which bosses is a part of) yet in DS3 it feels like you can run past everything and it's a slow boss rush simulator, essentially - this isn't an issue for a game like Bloodborne and Sekiro but it's not what I expect from a Dark Souls game.
DS3 should've had some of BB bosses like Rom, Micolash and Celestials while BB should've had some of the DS3 bosses
Lies of P is absolutely amazing I'd even rank it with the fromsoft games. To think that the greatest soulslike wouldn't be the one moronicly trying to reinvent the wheel but actually paying homage to it, understanding it and taking their own spin
yeah maybe if you're a slack-jawed post-BB secondary homosexual frick
being able to jury-rig your own weapons doesn't make up for its being a 5/10 rife with the most egregious elements of From combat
It has one fresh idea. One. The rest is all head-bowing.
only dark souls 1 and sekiro are good
Since this thread is garbage, I'm gonna post kino.
It's from the wiki.
Another fun fact, Tanimura was asked to be co-director for DS3 and ER because of how well the mechanics on DS2 turned out.
your schizophrenic copypasta is from the DS2 wiki?
Does DS3 have 4 ring slots and Estus Shards?
You act like those were good inclusions
here comes the "these mechanics don't matter anyway" cope
Who said they dont matter? They do, they make Ds2 a worse game :). They were bad ideas
Ok, but DS3 and ER are good somehow, even though they used DS2 a base for the gameplay.
can you link me to the DS2 wiki where you copy pasted your schizophrenic copypasta?
Two can play your piss-baby game.
You are a lemming and a bot. Shut the frick up and refute the copypasta.
read
samegay
Oh to be a ds2gay who constantly lives In a fantasy world of his own mental illness.
This is history written in stone, they can't change it no matter how much they seethe. The people who made ds2 simply didnt care about it.
You have it ass backwards.
They cared way too fricking much
They had to
and they couldn't deliver because they spread themselves too thin dreaming about what it could and should have been
We were all robbed. The devs, the publishers, the players. It should have been magnificent.
It was okay.
>They cared way too fricking much
OH MY FRICKING GOD
THE COPE IS SO UNREAL
They cared so much they made the main castle look like an N64 level
that's why it's called "souls" anon
They blew so much time and money on everything else that they had frick all left for the big reveal.
>They blew so much time and money
They sure did.
You can look up the development cycle of the game if you care. Your npc-tier shitposts bore me beyond doing so.
Why are you crying about a comparison picture? Left is what they said the game would look like. Right is the actual game.
The alpha version ran at 15FPS on Ps3/360, that's why the downgrade.
Shame the PC version didn't get at least some extra lighting effects.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH HOLY SHIT THANK YOU FOR THE LAUGHS Ganker these threads are GOLDEN
>sovl
>uncanny, liminal sovl
>forced soul
holy shit ds2 is pathetic. How can a sequel look way worse than the first game? literally went backward multiple gens.
Every DaS fan is like
>Dark Souls 1 is amazing man best gaym evar!!1
>Dark Souls 2 was shit, such a downgrade from 1...
>Uhh Dark Souls 3 is meh, not as shit as DaS 2 but it wasn't good
Then why the frick is there so much praise towards this series if only the first game was good?
You're gettiing baited by shitposters.
All 3 games have between 85 and 95 positive on steam.
Because they're comparing the games to each other.
If you compare all three games to other action RPGs franchises, they are all very frickin good.
nah ds2 sucks compared to even the witcher 3.
It actually goes like this
>DEMON SOULS KINO
>DARK FRICKING SOULS YEAH
>Dark souls 2
>BLOOOOOD BORNE YEAH
>DARK SOULS FRICKING 3 LETS GO
>SEKIRO SOUL!
>ELDEN RIIIIIIING
Demon's
>oh my god WHAT frick this game frick this.. wait. WAIT.
DaS1
>picrel
DaS2
>what the FRICK this isn't Dark Souls 1! I want Dark Souls 1 but more better! I want.. ah, frick it. It's all right.
BB
>picrel intensifies
DaS3
>oh my god it controls just like Dark Soul thank frick and LOOK at these classes and.. huh. I'm kind of fed up of roll-R1ing Artorias over and over again. Tastes bad.
Sekiro
>AAAAAAAAAAA FRICK THIS GAME I FRICKING love THIS GAME.
ER
>oh my lord LOOK at all this space to explore I wonder what crazy adventures Miggy Ziggy has in store for us! ..oh. Oh. Meh.
You are so fricking stupid, dark souls 3 introduced a vast array of covenants that made the world truly alive and because of 89 iq mongrels like you they forfeited the idea and now we get basically singleplayer games where you can summon a dudebro to help you fight a boss or a very lacking pvp update 6 months after release and that's it
I'm still mad DS3 had no sin mechanic and that Darkmoon and Blue Sentinels were identical in function.
Darkmoons need a blue orb to punish invaders, I mean those guys like PvP anyway so it just makes the game more active.
>omg u guise dark soul 3 introduced purpel guy and darker blue guy like that makes up for it being five good levels and twenty weak ones
most of the levels are pretty good outside of demon ruins
How about no
The entirety of Lothric Castle with the exception of Oceiros' old cum rag stash pile is fricking great
The Settlement is pretty damn good
The one place that everybody creams their pants over because it's like soOoOo preddy is good. It's too short and plain to be any better than good.
Cathedral of the Deep is generally great though outside is better than inside.
The dragon place is good. Too much jank going on with the enemies (read: axe the size of a car clipping through forty feet of rock) to make it great.
The rest of the maingame, unless I'm forgetting something, varies from mid to meh, either because it's been better done before or hardly qualifies as a level.
As for the DLC:
the pissbaby crowpeople village part is good. The fly-people basement is a fricking amazing bit of catharsis, but that might be just me having a soft spot for setting disgusting shit on fire.
The entirety of Ringed City, I have to say, is good to amazing.
So it's hardly as exaggerated as 5 v 20, no, but it leaves a lot to be desired. There's no way in hell it's the best of the bunch. It just wasn't as fricked-up during development as Dark Souls 2, so a lot of people pretend like it's the second fricking coming.
So are the ds2 fans misguided morons or are they actively malicious?
oh definitely malicious morons
Both
DeS fans are the misguided morons.
hey what the hell leave me outa this motherfricker
this shoulda been replying to
Demon's souls should be the hi-res horse in color, DS1 should be same but in black and white, then from 2 onward it should be the shitty sketch verion, except 3 is a colored sketch, BB is the sketch with the ink all fricked after it fell in a puddle, Sekiro is a sketch in Crayon Chin-chan style and ER is a sketch with a pixelated picture of a horse printed at home glued on top.
ER has several dungeons that are better than all of ds2 or ds3 this guy is coping hard.
I can't remember a single one because they're so boring
Dark souls 3 was the only good one
yeah maybe if you're a mustard rice secondary who dips cat shit in his coffee as part of a healthy breakfast
So Elden ring is the whole painting with a background