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you being a moron who misremembered what every pokemon looks like doesn't mean it was for "no reason"
"Misremembered"
Yet as you show in your example, that's what they'd actually look like in the games, and they were better for it.
The middle column is what they looked like in the games.
Did you get dropped on your head as a baby, brother
And Ken Sugimori abused the shit out of highlights in his art but that doesn't mean they should look literally white in some spots.
We're not talking about watercolor art. Address the actual argument.
Your logic is "if it's in the game it's automatically correct." Therefore XY's models are correct.
The logic is "it looked better before, what the frick is this shit"
>The logic is "it looked better before,
it didn't though
Can't account for bad taste
You're right, we can't account for OP.
What a fricking beast
I LOVE Vensaur bro
>posts incorrect representation of Sugimori's art
Anon, I...
>it's incorrect because uhhhh I said so
No one cares, Lewtwo.
Shut up Lewtwo
>oh no i get to talk about a video game for a living oh woe is me
maybe he should get a real job instead of whining that he spends time saving pngs to put on a google drive
He's not capable of diversifying his portfolio since that franchise is all he knows, and he dislikes being locked to it because he's begun to lust for freedom after having been enslaved by a niche for so long. It's his fault and he knows it, but his weak character forces him to blame the world instead of making changes to himself.
Probably on disability for depression and anxiety. Why would he need a job?
They only looked like this to compensate for the gba's shitty screen
>Gen 5 sprites out of nowhere
Discord thread , this autist has been ruining /vp/ for some time and he samegays alot , you can easily tell it's him because he is really autistically enraged by gen 5 for some reason and wants nothing but to astroturf the site into hating it
He also self-makes gen 5 threads praising the game and then shits on it with samegay comments
What causes this sheer amount of autism on 4 chan?
>discussion about sprites vs models
>"out of nowhere"
Hey schizo, are you alright? Did you forget your meds?
>not even 20 seconds after the post and he's already malding that I ruined his shitty autism bait thread
Go back to your containment board (/vp/) and stay there you autistic moron
and i thought the anti-mother 3 gay was bad , jesus christ
Can you post a screenshot that is from 2023?
The genwar Discord doesn't exist anymore
It's worse than that. 99% chance they're also from the Sharty.
That screenshot predates the sharty.
Only Pokemon brings in this level of mental illness.
The sprites were soul!
I want to thank an anon who fixed this for me
FTFY
This game was the beginning of the end of Pokemon but I still believe Mega Evolution is a considerably better gimmick than every single other gimmick that replaced it.
It could have given Unviable pokemon viability.
Pokemon, and by extension anything bingtendo ever made, WAS NEVER GOOD, Darren.
>Darren
QRD?
Darren is a notorious tendie sperg that's been active for many years. Most famous for creating a really obvious falseflagging persona that he named "eric", where he pretended to be a sony fan. Was finally caught with hard evidence against him just a couple months ago, and has been melting down ever since.
Wow, I knew nintendo gays were unhinged, but that's fricked up
Ok. What does any of that have to do with Pokemon sucking shit after X and Y and me claiming Mega Evolutions was the only gimmick that didn't suck from Pokemon in the last like 11 years?
Nothing I said pertained to Persona or any nintendo franchise and nothing I said made Pokemon out to be anything but dog shit since 11 years ago.
>https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/%22Darren%20is%20a%20notorious%20tendie%20sperg%22/
>https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/%22Wow%2C%20I%20knew%20nintendo%20gays%20were%20unhinged%2C%20but%20that%27s%20fricked%20up%22/
>schizo is literally responding to himself
Yup, he's buck broken.
Who the frick is Darren?
So you agree all these sprites are bad, right OP? Or are you going to reveal yourself as a dishonest nostalgiagay like usual?
>Soul
>No soul
Simple as
Gen 3 has the worst sprites, yes. You're also comparing them to the gen 7 versions of their models, not the gen 6 ones though. No one really complains about how the pokemon look in sumo, just the terrible regional dex of the base game, and how bad the framerate can get during battles.
>You're also comparing them to the gen 7 versions of their models, not the gen 6 ones though
They're identical.
>Yeah, I forgot that little moronic anon-tard can't play a pokemon game unless his team is 20 levels above every enemy
What does this have to do with EXP Share?
>and balanced the game around that that pokedex
Fairy is more balanced even without the Gen 6+ Pokemon.
The wireframes are identical, but the colors are not
>but the colors are not
No, they're identical. LGPE onwards changed the colors but in SM they're literally the same.
>What does this have to do with EXP Share?
Forced expshare only exists to make you overlevel. If you defend forced expshare, then you're a troony that needs to overlevel to beat a baby's game. It's that simple
>b-b-b--bbut it reduces grinding
You're a troony if you to grind to beat a baby's game. It's that simple
The arguments against exp share are bad fundamentally and only work if you erroneously think the games with it have the same encounter design as the games without it. It's true you'd be higher level in the old games if it was added into them and you'd be lower level in the new games if it wasn't in them, but the games aren't designed that way.
>Forced expshare only exists to make you overlevel
Then how come I got overleveled in Platinum?
>it's not desaturated because they changed it to a darker color before desaturating it
Also, even when you had the opportunity to cherrypick, THAT is what you came up with? The only 3d model in your entire image that isnt unequivocally worse than the sprite is Poliwrath
You aight, schizo? Having a meltdown because you got revealed to be a disingenuous moron with no consistent standard except "old thing good"?
THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA
>Zoomers are actually defending SV
I want to kill every single one of you with my own hands.
SV is a masterpiece compared to any other pokeshit game on the system
You have to understand, BDSP mindbroke people HARD
>You have to understand, BDSP mindbroke people HARD
How bad was it? I've been completely ignoring Pokemon since 2016.
>How bad was it?
Even moving your character felt like shit. You were never once aligned with the tiles even if you used the D-pad. If you got too close to a wall at all you'd hear the *bump* sound effect and stop dead. There are a lot of narrow walkways in Sinnoh so getting from A to B always felt like SHIT in the remake.
Gen 4 is put on a weird pedestal to begin with. I'll say it right now, DiaPer are the worst games in the series, pre 3d era. Platinum improved the most out of every 3rd version, but that's because the base it was working with was so terrible. BDSP is DiaPer, stripped of its sheen of nostalgia, without any of the fixes from platinum, and somehow actually worse than the originals.
>Gen 4 is put on a weird pedestal to begin with
because platinum and hgss are really good. no one says go play DP lol
They basically rereleased DP (not Platinum) with a premium price tag in 2023. It was also extremely broken during its first year after release and it took like 2 years to even get GTS (which was available day 1 in the original NDS game)
Shills defended the lack of new content by stating that it was a MUH FAITHFUL REMAKE, but it wasn't even that since it killed gamecorner, ruined underground bases, forced gen 6 expshare, shoehoerned fairy type, etc etc
Only good thing to come from it was the fact that it was made in unity, meaning that we'll get pokemon.exe eventually and enter a new era of fangames
>forced gen 6 expshare, shoehoerned fairy type
these are improvements
>forced gen 6 expshare
Yeah, I forgot that little moronic anon-tard can't play a pokemon game unless his team is 20 levels above every enemy
>shoehoerned fairy type
Nah, frick off. I would be fine if with it IF the game also included gen 5/6 mons since it was gen 6 that added the fairy and balanced the game around that that pokedex, but nope. It's as moronic as rereleasing RBY and adding dark/steel/fairy typing
Irrelevant since Unity going full moron only affects game devs, not modders. Some based autists are already decompiling that pile of shit game
>Nah, frick off. I would be fine if with it IF the game also included gen 5/6 mons since it was gen 6 that added the fairy and balanced the game around that that pokedex
Most of the good fairy types pre gen 7 were Pokemon from gens 1-4 that were retconned into fairy types
>It's as moronic as rereleasing RBY and adding dark/steel/fairy typing
Like LGPE did?
>Like LGPE did?
You mean the shitty spinoff game that removed wild battles and that required adding random ass Alola forms into the game JUST so it could have dark types?
Because you're only using 1 pokemon
Meanwhile on the expshare games, you have SIX overleveld pokemons you turd
Like, you can literally catch 5 magikarps at the start of the game in BDSP, and you'll have a full team of overpowered Gyarados at the 2nd gym. All for zero effort
>Meanwhile on the expshare games, you have SIX overleveld pokemons you turd
That's not because of the exp share but because the exp distribution is poor (and BDSP wasn't designed around exp share in the first place since it's just a remake). In S/V you generally end up around the same level of the final boss give or take 5 levels.
So expshare IS the issue, got it. Turns out that giving the player 300% free exp after every battle ends up breaking the game. Also, it's a terrible example to compare the game to S/V since that game's exp distribution is just fricking weird since every single trainer battle is completely optional and out of your way. You should have compared it to SWSHit instead, in that game, you are always 10 levels above every trainer, until the game finally decides to fix the problem and makes the champion be overleveled out of nowhere
>I don't like when the game wastes my time with grinding.
Again, if you need to grind in a pokemon game then you should straight up just have a nice day. You're as bad as gayming journalists at that point, unironically
@657189028
You don't even deserve a (You). Funny how your 2 arguments completely contradict each other too
>So expshare IS the issue, got it. Turns out that giving the player 300% free exp after every battle ends up breaking the game.
This is a low IQ way of looking at it because exp distribution isn't the same between games. Would you say Xenoblade Chronicles is actually giving you 700% exp and that your reserve characters shouldn't get any?
2 completely different games
Xenoblade has 7 playable characters
Pokemon has like 960 playable characters if you fill all boxes and you can also delete or replace some permanently. If you are underleveled, then you can just catch new fricking stuff. You don't need to force yourself to train the shitters in your team, you can just grab a new team at any time
Xenoblade NEEDS to have a exp share system because there are even moments where your party changes completely. That's why party members that haven't joined yet autolevel to match your current team. I don't see wild pokemon being level 100 to match my team to
Also, xenoblade's exp system is also so fricking moronic to the point that people where even begging for the devs to add an option to disable exp gain in 3 completely since it could completely mess up with job exp gains. XB1 would also better without expshare because that would allow me to do fricking sidequests without having my entire fricking party be completely over leveled. Terrible idea to even compare pokeshit to xenoblade you dumbfrick
>Pokemon has like 960 playable characters
So it actually needs shared exp MORE than Xenoblade does? Why the frick would I ever use more than one Pokemon if there's no shared exp?
>"The games are completely different"
>Proceeds to list reasons why Pokemon needs exp share even more than Xenoblade does
The more party members there are the more you need an exp share otherwise everyone just uses one active party, this isn't an issue exclusive to Pokemon even old FInal Fantasy games had this problem ex people not using Kimahri. And in Pokemon since you have an active party of ONE...
>Proceeds to list reasons why Pokemon needs exp share even more than Xenoblade does
Didn't need to read the rest of your post. I'll just say one thing
If your level 2 pidgey isn't doing shit against the level 20 ratata that rocket grunt #3527436 is using, then you can just catch a whole new pidgey that is higher leveled. No grinding required
t. Beat gen 1 2 3 and 5 with 0 exp hacks. You literally don't need to grind in pokemon unless you have brain damage
>then you can just catch a whole new pidgey
or I can just continue mashing A on my lv30 charmeleon and never use anything else because your dumbfrick brain thought putting no shared exp in a party based rpg was a good idea
>modern pokemon is shit
>W-WAIT NO NOT THE MODERN POKEMON I HAPPEN TO LIKE
>why do i have to raise my monsters on the monster raising rpg?!?!?!?
The game doesn't make you raise monsters though, because the optimal strategy is to just use one Pokemon. You get -punished- for attempting to raise monsters. That's why it's horribly designed.
Ok but what happens when you fight a water type anon what then?
oh no the water type that's over half a dozen levels below me whatever will i do!
>b-but I must OOOOOOOPTIMIZE!!!!!!
this is why video games suck now. People are so obsessed with maximizing efficiency, getting everything on their first run and fomo that games must be designed around morons that are too afraid to experiment and actually spend time playing the games
In fairness grinding IV'S and XP is objectively kind of shit.
>dude you're supposed to play moronicly on purpose and just pretend the game is hard lmao
You can't use this argument then at the same time whine about the newer games being easy. Just handicap yourself and play like a moron on purpose bro! Stop obsessing about maximizing efficiency!
>or I can just continue mashing A on my lv30 charmeleon and never use anything else because your dumbfrick brain thought putting no shared exp in a party based rpg was a good idea
I don't care about your infantile opinions you max revive full restore save scumming spammer
>Y-YOU....USE THE THINGS THE GAME GIVES YOU INSTEAD OF LARPING THAT IT'S ACTUALLY HARD SO I CAN DELUDE MYSELF MY TODDLER GAMES ARE GOOD? NOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT!
Awesome, so why are you so damn pathetic that you can't even use 6 pokemon without having the game give you shitloads of free exp thanks to expshare?
I'm not him, a game's design shouldn't be reliant on people actively fighting to hinder themselves. I Lack of exp share in the old games NEVER gets defended on any level besides an appeal to tradition.
>Keep using the same Pokemon
>Thus perpetrating a loop of being forced to use the same Pokemon because it's the only one that has levels
That is why it was necessary to make it so all Pokemon get xp
When bad design decisions are made, in the hands of a stupid designer, their future solutions take the form of streamlining.
Something the anti-sharegays can't articulate is that distributed party xp makes levels and adventure planning pointless, and that streamlines out a whole slew of "hard" impromptu decisions that should be there to add flavor and challenge to the game.
Consider this hypothetical:
>my heroic Charmeleon can't do anything to this water wall without inevitably fainting...
Typically, without xp share:
>I have a potential type advantage solution in my party, but I haven't trained them at all
>they'd just faint immediately for being too weak if I sent them in
>I'll have to take the loss and work on that solution before continuing
>sucks I didn't see that coming or I'd have done some grinding
>but I don't have time to grind every mon's levels to be fully prepared
>frick this game
Yet with xp share:
>do I have a solution in my party?
>oh good I do
>alright let's get this over with
>damn these constant trainer battles are annoying
>when does it get challenging?
>frick this game
Pokemon's design flaws in regards to this were deeper than just "JRPG grind". You couldn't know what a trainer had in their party ahead of time, so you wouldn't know what to prepare. The spirit of adventure is in preparing for the journey and often takes the form of a grind, but without a goal to grind for, attempting to cover every possibility is draining and stupid. That's why smart players look for hints and feel smarter for noticing. Trainer classes were supposed to give those hints, but because the designers were morons, they inevitably added red herrings more often than not, and then they streamlined those out, too.
Most anti-sharegays want to go back to the more flavorful albeit tedious challenge schema of the older games because it's familiar, but they don't realize that GF arent capable of delivering a good adventure game that makes a grind feel worth it.
>I'll have to take the loss and work on that solution before continuing
No I would just get more levels onto the main Pokemon if this ever happened (it doesn't) because the Pokemon damage formula directly calls the level difference between Pokemon and your Pokemon can use moves not of its type.
You're arguing from the perspective of what you want the game to be, not what it is. And there's nothing interesting about intentionally "using" (read: making your strongest Pokemon take one hit on their behalf) worse Pokemon just so they can get xp. It doesn't work with Pokemon's design.
Another monster game I played that doesn't have xp share is Temtem, but in that game it actually works because the stamina system means crutching on one Pokemon simply won't work. But in Pokemon it does, and they're not going to upend all the carefully balanced systems just so you can pretend the game is slightly harder.
>they're not going to upend all the carefully balanced systems just so you can pretend the game is slightly harder.
You sure spent a long time replying without actually reading my post, or maybe
is right and the point flew over your head.
I can't make it any clearer than this:
>adventure games are about preparation for the journey
>GF really sucks at leveraging what systems and balance they've already established to make one such good adventure game
You and GF's designers have a lot in common.
>adventure games are about preparation for the journey
>GF really sucks at leveraging what systems and balance they've already established to make one such good adventure game
And you don't feel like you are "preparing for the journey" because you aren't sending your Pokemon against a bunch of matchups it's not the right choice in just to artificially level it in preparation for a challenge that will never come
Bro I read your post, the game without xp share does not function correctly
>my heroic Charmeleon can't do anything to this water wall without inevitably fainting...
It's fricking hilarious how DStards can't make their argument without relying on imaginary games.
>t. Beat gen 1 2 3 and 5 with 0 exp hacks. You literally don't need to grind in pokemon unless you have brain damage
No shit, they are piss easy games. That doesn't make "just use one Pokemon lmao" good design.
>So expshare IS the issue
USUM is the hardest game in the series and it has exp share. Have you never played any RPG in your life that's harder than the fricking toddler ass DS games that has shared exp?
Good.
I don't like when the game wastes my time with grinding.
>Because you're only using 1 pokemon
1. No I didn't
2. Why would I not use only 1 Pokemon when there's no exp share?
>Meanwhile on the expshare games, you have SIX overleveld pokemons you turd
None of my Pokemon in BDSP were overleveled though.
>It's as moronic as rereleasing RBY and adding dark/steel/fairy typing
FRLG did this, and also kept you from doing friendship evolutions for golbat and chansey for 0 reason until postgame
>Only good thing to come from it was the fact that it was made in unity
Didn't unity just crash and burn a few months ago
SV focuses on the fun
>SV focuses on the trannies
FTFY.
Who are you quoting?
Troon game.
made for chastity
Straight white man game
This, but unironically.
>Literal digimon
>ANOTHER fricking Pikachu clone
>Only cute girl in the entire generation
>Forgettable main character
>Soulless starters
>troony
>Two Dragon Booster looking mfs
>Homosexual
>An actual real human world pig
>Another literal digimon
I want everyone working for The Pokemon Company to die slowly and painfully.
>Only cute girl in the entire generation
Not so fast..
I don't know who that is and cooming doesn't justify the existence of any game made after 2015. Not a single one. All shit.
frick off genwunner fricking freak
>Furry homosexual having the audacity to talk shit on a non-braindead person
Many such cases but also disgusting.
thats BW and SV though?
READ THE TEXT TARD
>SV just does what Gen 2 Kanto did but with useless shit like feeding your lizard
Whoah..... kino....
>Any gen before 9
>Open world
>with wherever
moron moment
I think the small, linear region with carefully designed levels and off the path locations/Secrets is better than the massive, empty landmass with no worthwile content that looks like something I could have thrown together in Unity.
>linear region with carefully designed levels and off the path locations/Secrets
well i know you're not talking about muttnova here, lol
Unova might be smaller than "Paldea"(?), but the content is of better quality. The locations are more unique.
>Here's that unique and quality content I was telling you about
This is blatantly a tongue in cheek joke anon come on
>it's le bad on le purpose!
But unironically I need a sauce on that Nemona art
SwSh really drove this home. Hallways with story blockades to direct flow are fricking boring and awful, and no amount of great music, goth e-girls or careful level design will salvage it. Seems like the only reason anyone hated it was dexit, but it's just such a fricking bland game outside of the wild areas.
SV sucks in many ways, but it's the only other Pokemon game aside from PLA that doesn't feel like a giant fricking chore to play, and that's because it's not a hallway.
Th3 3DS was criminally underpowered and many compromises had to be made to fit over 600 3D models in the game (in addition to dozens of trainer models).
More vibrant colors make no impact on the console's performance you stupid c**t.
What's that got to do with color saturation?
>Th3 3DS was criminally underpowered
It really wasn't, at least not for pokemon. XY ran like ass and loaded like shit because the models were famously overly detailed. Every single pokemon model in the game was like the equivalent of a yandere sim toothbrush.
Other games do this no issue, Game Freak is just shit at programming. I don't know why people still believe this sort of thing.
>the game is bad because..uh...the pokemon look like the pokemon!
man people are DESPERATE to find reasons to hate this game, it's actually kind of hilarious
You don't need to FIND reasons to hate Pokemon. They come to you. They chase you, even.
fairy was the most moronic addition to the series
but enough about revavroom
I'm somewhat considering getting Violet. Havent played Pokemon since the gba games.
Do it, it's fun, once you accept the poor performances and visuals.
>I'm somewhat considering drinking bleach. Havent had a drink since yesterday.
Are you fricking stupid? Play in order and stop at X&Y unless you're a zoomer piece of shit in which case disregard my advice and skip to the part where you have a nice day.
You'll never convince anyone Gen 5 is good no matter how many times you throw a temper tantrum.
I'm a boomer hence why I havent played since the gba. I played red, gold, sapphire, and fire red.
You quit while the series was ahead tbqh. I'm honestly jealous.
>Just play shit linear games bro
LMAO
Don't listen to the fricktards, REAL Pokemon adventure awaits.
just emulate literally any other game or romhack in the series for free. Gayfreak doesn't deserve your money.
You can emulate Violet for free and not have to put up with the shit tier performance in the process.
>You can emulate Violet for free and-
Yeah but why would you ever do that when you can just... Not.
You're the only claiming money is the only reason to avoid modern Pokemon, not me.
Modern Pokemon is not worth playing, pirating, looking at, not even fapping anymore. Just all trash. Fricking shit.
I agree, gen 5 is shit
have a nice day discordBlack person.
why are poketroons so schizo
You are 12 years old
I'm 29. I played Gen 5 when I was in high school. Even then I didn't like it and instantly thought XY was better when it released.
Will there be a new mainline game in 2024?
I am going to personally kill anyone who defends SV or anything after Gen 6 but particularly SV with my own hands.
what are the best romhacks other than clover and crown?
Prism
Quartz
Unbound is the best pokemon game
No point buying scarlet and violet now when the new better pokemon will be out next year and wont run like shit on the switch 2
KEK
Gen 10 won't drop before 2025
but a new game comes every 2 years
>Next year
Maybe a ILCA remake is coming, wouldn't put hope for anything else.
Lets go johto?
>and wont run like shit on the switch 2
lol
if its cross gen which it will be based on recent Nintendo ceo comments then it can run like shit on switch 1 but run good on switch 2
I'm saying this as a pokegay, but arguing with pokegays (particularly bootlickers that defend xy and onwards as if their life depended on it) is the biggest waste of time. It's as if you were talking with people mentally stuck at 12 years old or a brick wall. Don't waste your time, and just let them keep rotting their own brains.
>omg I argued with people and they reject my opinion they like just don't understand my point?!?
When what you get back is "nuh-uh" and "i know you are, but what am i", you just know you're talking to an npc
>people in their 30s and 40s playing this toddler shit
Grow up for frick sake.
have a nice day troon scum.
I'll have you know I'm a standard straight white bald male so not remotely troony.
>I'm a standard straight white bald male so not remotely troony
>Posting a gif of a f*male laughing
Nice try, troon. have a nice day.
Im sorry you were born in a time games suck ass
Do young people even give a shit about Pokemon? Seems like its all 80s and 90s kids still playing these games.
that's all niᥒteᥒdie games. only japanese children and s𐐬ys play this slop
Are anons ready for the Indigo Dick?
Yeah, I can't wait to see what Kieran is cooking
Literal school shooter
What the frick is that hair
Who the frick was in charge for the general design in Scat and vegana
I'm playing that pokemon infinite fusion, is there any way to speed up grinding? Misty's staryu/oddish is like level 25, shits ridiculous
I wish they brought hueshifting back from the Stadium games. I don't see why this is offmodel when XXS and XXL size Pokemon are okay.
exp share is great because that means the game actively encourages you to use lots of pokemons, if you're mid game and just want to do a whole other team then you can absolutely do it, without the hours of tedious grinding you get in older games
>without the hours of tedious grinding you get in older games
Holy zoomer, batman
this doesn't refute my point
XPing was fricking annoying as frick in HG/SS, you couldn't find anything beyond LVL 40
Meanwhile in S/V I can build as many pokemon as I want to in no time
Btw HG/SS is the last pokemon game I've played before S/V
>XPing was fricking annoying as frick in HG/SS, you couldn't find anything beyond LVL 40
Good thing that you don't need to find anything beyond level 40
>AAAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BUT THE EXTREMELY UNDERELVELED KANTOOOOOOOOOOO GYM LEADERS LIKE JANINE ARE FILTERING MEEEEEE
>WOW, now I can grind TWO mons instead of one, this is epic
You can also rotate the expshare around, but I guess that you just want the equivalent of the game giving you 100x free rare candies
Hell, check out radical red, that game gives you infinite rare candies at the very start. It's an even better system that expshare because even though expshare is fricking broken, it still doesn't completely kill the moronic grinding. Perfect for you
I think the grinding is more of a problem with fan games then the actual ones. Usually the games hand you a super effective pokemon to handle the problem like diglett or mankey
>exp share is great because that means the game actively encourages you to use lots of pokemons
Objectively fricking false. It's thanks to expshare that you have absolutely no reason to use other pokemon
Tell me, why the hell should I rotate my team and use everyone when I can just spam one single pokemon and have everyone level up at the same rate?
>if you're mid game and just want to do a whole other team then you can absolutely do it, without the hours of tedious grinding you get in older games
It's as if the expshare held item does not exist in gen 2 3 4 5 and that gen 1 didn't have the modern expshare system but balanced.....
Also, ever wondered why pokemon games constantly throw you trainers with shit teams, specially in GSC's radio tower? It's so you can train your weaker pokemon instead of relying on your overpowered government provided starter
Imagine still thinking that you need to fricking grind holy shit
>Tell me, why the hell should I rotate my team and use everyone
Because you are a fun haver
>It's as if the expshare held item does not exist
WOW, now I can grind TWO mons instead of one, this is epic
This logic seems ass backwards, you’re equating something you can do in the new games if you’re stubborn to something most kids did naturally in the old games.
> Tell me, why the hell should I rotate my team and use everyone
Because I can’t beat Totem Araquanid/Kommo-o/Necrozma with just my fire starter
Now tell me why I should ever use more than one party member in the games without the exp share
>Because I can’t beat Totem Araquanid/Kommo-o/Necrozma with just my fire starter
Good, so your moronic hrurrr just spam charmeleon strategy doesn't work and you need to use a bigger team to solve that issue. I had to do the exact same thing in SM anon, however: expshare isn't fricking forced in gen 7 and I played the game normally without any issues with that shit disabled WITHOUT DOING OPTIONAL GRINDING. Now, if pokemon is too hard for you that you need the game to give you 350% extra exp, then turn the baby journalist mode on and accept the wiener inside your throat. Just don't feel offended once you realize that not everyone is a special needs child like you and can beat the game normally without cheats
>Now tell me why I should ever use more than one party member in the games without the exp share
Because your moronic hrurrr just spam charmeleon strategy didn't work? Bulbasaur is pretty shit in gen 1 since he gets walled by a shitton of stuff, specially Lance. Cynthia is also pretty difficulty in DPP without cheese strats
Also, fun fact: the main reason why using 1 pokemon is the best strategy in older games is solely due to the lack of exp scaling. Gen 5 already fixed that issue, making solo runs a lot weaker and modern expshare completely unnecessary. Hell, try replaying SM with expshare disabled and you'll see how easy it is to mantain a strong team at all times without resorting to grinding. I know that replaying that cutscene filled shitfeast is a crazy idea, but you're already so fricking moronic that I bet that you'd be ok with it
>Good, so your moronic hrurrr just spam charmeleon strategy doesn't work and you need to use a bigger team to solve that issue
Yes, because USUM is actually well designed. This doesn't apply in Gen 1-5 where there's no reason to not just mash A with one Pokemon the entire game.
>Because your moronic hrurrr just spam charmeleon strategy didn't work?
It does though.
>Bulbasaur is pretty shit in gen 1 since he gets walled by a shitton of stuff
Trust me, you won't get walled by anything when you're 10+ levels above every NPC.
>Cynthia is also pretty difficulty in DPP
Thanks for admitting you're a complete moron who's basing his opinions on playing the game as an 8 year old.
>Yes, because USUM is actually well designed
lol
The game that gave x items double the boosts is """"well designed"""". The fact that you still had to resort to expshare despite everything is damn pathetic
Anyway, keep enjoying your gaming journalist mode
Notice how he didn't reply to you again
He knows he's wrong
>Cynthia is also pretty difficulty in DPP without cheese strats
>350% extra ex
I never see actually "good" arguments against xp share, just appeals to tradition like this
A proper expshare system like gen 1 would split the exp you get evenly among every party member
A shitty expshare system like gen 6,7,8 and 9 generates free exp out of nowhere and there's virtually zero (0) ((nil)) reason to run less than a full party. Despite this, the game is still filled with shitloads of trainers running 1~3 pokemon because only (You) and the champion are allowed to be the only non moronic trainers in the pokemon universe
>there's virtually zero (0) ((nil)) reason to run less than a full party
Uh yeah congratulations that is the game design issue it is solving
>A proper expshare system like gen 1 would split the exp you get evenly among every party member
this doesn't solve the issue and doesn't matter either way, because if they wanted it to be harder they'd just make the enemies higher level with the same exp system as now
>Uh yeah congratulations that is the game design issue it is solving
How so? It makes running less than 6 pokemon moronic. You are punished for not having a full team all the time and it makes the game more swallow since everyone can be good without putting any effort.
>this doesn't solve the issue and doesn't matter either way, because if they wanted it to be harder they'd just make the enemies higher level with the same exp system as now
Too bad that they refused to do that, so now we have baby games AND 350% extra exp on top of that
>pokemon is literally the only RPG franchise in existence I've seen people b***h about shared exp
Well yeah. People have been begging for gamefreak to add some difficulty options, and as a response, they essentially forced an easy mode option unto the players. How the hell are you supposed to react after this?
>they essentially forced an easy mode option
this is why you're a clown, you're conflating "there's shared exp" with "the game is easy"
there are a dozen RPGs with shared exp that are drastically harder than any pokemon game
Nuance is dead. Shared XP only sucks for pokemon because the games are about as difficult as they ever were
>the games are about as difficult as they ever were
Gen 7+ is harder than Gen 1-6.
>Why do you keep comparing pokemon with other RPGs?
Because Pokemon is a RPG and shared EXP is something virtually all of them have in common if there are benched party members.
>Because Pokemon is a RPG and shared EXP is something virtually all of them have in common if there are benched party members.
Then why don't the pokemon in my PC get any exp? In Dragon Quest 6, even if I have some characters inside the wagon and I can't swap them in in a battle because I'm not in the world map, they still get exp. It's fricking weird seeing those homosexuals level up all the time despite the fact that I can't call them while inside a dungeon
Again, why does anon keep comparing pokeshit with other games? Speaking of dragon quest, why don't my pokemon fricking die when I breed them? It works like that in dragon quest monsters (a literal monster collecting rpg like pokemon)
>Then why don't the pokemon in my PC get any exp?
because micromanaging hundreds of pokemon's exp would be moronic and there are cases where you don't want pokemon in your PC to get exp because you need to train them a specific way or trade them to someone else later.
>Again, why does anon keep comparing pokeshit with other games?
Because it's comparable to other games and having exp share is a fricking no brainer in any game with benched party members because otherwise it makes using more than 1 party member completely fricking pointless.
>there are a dozen RPGs with shared exp that are drastically harder than any pokemon game
Why do you keep comparing pokemon with other RPGs? Persona 5 is a modern RPG with expshare and that game straight up gives you a game over the moment the leader dies. Why can't pokemon do the same?
>How so? It makes running less than 6 pokemon moronic.
It is supposed to be moronic
>so now we have baby games AND 350% extra exp on top of that
You have been conflating “””extra””” (it’s not extra within the context of its own game) exp with reduced difficulty and you are doing it within this same fricking play, you can’t now pretend they are separate issues in your mind
>It is supposed to be moronic
Awesome. 99% of the ingame trainers are moronic
Nice fricking game
Yeah in game trainers aren’t supposed to be an imitation of pvp, they are just small obstacles and a source of exp and money.
Yes, they are small obstacles that were placed so you could use your weaker party members on them. Now thanks to expshare, you can beat them with your highest level mon and the result is the same. So they're no longer obstacles, they're now worthless time wasting loading screens. They might as well not even exist anymore
And oh wow, I am correct since the latest 2 games of the franchise have nearly gotten rid of them. Gotta love this new expshare era
>they are small obstacles that were placed so you could use your weaker party members on them
Which the game did not succeed at encouraging people to do.
>since the latest 2 games of the franchise have nearly gotten rid of
Because they serve no purpose in the rebalanced exp system
More like pokegays got filtered by basic game design and then proceeded to make 8 hour long video essays explaining why GSC's level scaling was
>shit
There's nearly no trainer battles in SV aside from the ones you fight in gyms
SV didn't get rid of them? The only game that nearly has no trainers is legends arceus but that game has the most kino trainer battle in the franchise
I've replayed Scarlet & Violet 4 times already
I guess you can't stop autistic morons from hitting themselves in the head, the same way you can't stop blacks from committing crimes or israelites from being evil.
I guess what I'm trying to say is you're a moronic autistic Black person israelite. AND you have terrible taste in video games/
What the frick is your problem?
Boy I can't wait to see what the next one-generation-gimmick is going to be. Megas, Z-Moves, Gigantamax, fricking party hats? Just pull the trigger and do official fusions already Gamefreak (one of which will be Charizard x Mewtwo).
If megas were solely used on shit pokemon, they could have been fantastic
>Just pull the trigger and do official fusions already Gamefreak (one of which will be Charizard x Mewtwo)
They're too lazy to put the entire Pokedex in the games (that they just have to reuse already existing 3D models) for FOUR years and you expect them to do actual fusions which will mean more work?
Man you are more moronic than them, learn to read the room.
Don't worry, it'll just be for a select few Pokemon (most of them from Kanto).
>no reason
I know it's easy to forget, but the 3ds had a 3d gimmick.
Frick The Pokemon Company.
never again will you be allowed to catch em all in a single generation
pokemon is literally the only RPG franchise in existence I've seen people b***h about shared exp
which is especially funny considering it's probably has the shittiest most toddler pandering difficulty of any RPG series ever. b***hing about exp share is like whining that you were given a calculator for a 1st grade math test.
I don't think anyone would be complaining about shared xp if the trainers got more mons to compensate for it
The most powerful strat in pokemon is to simply level up your starter or a powerful pokemon and use nothing else. If left unchecked you'll end up with a nidoking or something that'll roflstomp everything put in it's path.
This used to be easy to not let happen, just spread out your pokemon usage more conservatively. With shared exp, it'll happen regardless.
Shared exp might be good if the game scales to your level but it doesn't so shared exp ultimately just makes the game easier to accidentally steamroll.
>This used to be easy to not let happen,
why would I not let it happen
if your argument is just "play stupidly on purpose" you have no reason to complain about difficulty
>so shared exp ultimately just makes the game easier to accidentally steamroll.
It sure is weird BDSP is harder than DPPt then
>why would I not let it happen
It makes the games boring.
ok then just do that in gen 6+
problem solved
>You're unironically defending the game that has pokemon straight up defy death because they wuv u a wot
As opposed to DPPt where my Pokemon have a 0% chance of dying in the first place because none of the npcs have any EVs and the AI is terrible?
>ok then just do that in gen 6+
Just do what? Exp share isn't a toggle in gens 6+.
It's toggable in gen 6 7
It's also toggable in gen 8 and 9 if you aren't a fricking braindead buytard Black person
https://gamebanana.com/mods/343840
https://gamebanana.com/requests/43367
>"just use mods bro"
>playing pokemon
>without friends or Home
Why? Do you actually enjoy playing it solo?
>unironically shilling home
>>>/vp/
Also, if I wanted to play pokemon with my friends past age 12, then I'd just boot up fricking showdown and play with randomized teams. That's what I did during my uni classes like 5 years ago
>It's also toggable in gen 8 and 9 if you aren't a fricking braindead buytard Black person
Unless it's been fixed in the past 6 months, the exp share mod for gen 9 only gives experience to the Pokemon that's currently out in battle. Makes it impossible to switch train.
> Just do what?
use more pokemon
>It sure is weird BDSP is harder than DPPt then
Literally have a nice day you disingenuous frick. You're unironically defending the game that has pokemon straight up defy death because they wuv u a wot :3ccc
Nta but the E4 in BDSP is fricking hard, I had to spam items because I got blindsided by baton pass minimize. Affection doesn’t happen enough to make up for the way stronger setups
>pokemon straight up defy death because they wuv u a wot :3ccc
It fricking sucks because it spams "i wuv yuuu!!" messages every goddamn turn, but I get that it's supposed to add functional meaning to the friendship mechanic and some hammy drama. Pokemon in the anime and manga, outleveled and up against immune or resistant types, will win against literally impossible odds because of the power of friendship. That bullshit is in the DNA, like it or not.
i liked SV tbf, if you didnt do the bosses in order and just charted your own path some of the battles would be legitimately difficult due to massive underleveling. also i liked having so many different mons available so quickly.
the story was decent enough to not just spam A through as well, so yeah all in all it's the best 3D pokemon mainline game. the DLC was also pretty good.
>Good concept is wasted on a My First Blender Project-tier execution.
Damn
You know what. I'm gonna download a gen 7 game, frick it.
USUM is the "better" game right?
Depends
Do you want a decent plot? Play SM
Do you want more bloat and stuff that you don't care about like postgame exclusive pokemon and Mantine surfing minigame? Play USUM
While you might not care about plot in a pokemon game, keep in mind that both gen 7 are literal cutscene simulators.
People overhype the shit out of USUM because it added a really hard boss fight that dies to toxic
That wasn't a good sales pitch anon
Both games are also hallway simulators and if you're playing them on the O3DS, then the battles are slow as frick and the shitty forced 1v1v1v1 battle royale takes forever to complete due to the slowdown
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Anyone know a good place like vimm's lair for 3ds CIA's?
They were trying to emulate the sugimori style
I wish they still made spin offs with specific small pool of Pokemon like Colosseum and Gale of Darkness. Something like that again with about just 100 Pokemon picked from across all of the gens.
You already got your wish. Every new mainline game has a limited pool with some new shit and choice picks from across multiple gens.
But I want them to be good like Colosseum and Gale of Darkness. More of a normal jrpg type thing.
>I want them to be more like XD
>XD
frick off
he didnt even say that you fricking moron newbie
Why is the collective IQ of any given pokemon thread a solid 55?
>55