>Proceeds to get 1-shot with a blunt end of the scythe through brain, and on top of that gets decapicated like an absolute b***h.
Bitch, why the hell did you act so high and mighty before with "should I engulf this square with my icy breath!? huehueheuhuehue". I've seen kobolds and mites last longer than that. Jesus, what an absolute jobber.
 CRIME Shirt $21.68 |
 UFOs Are A Psyop Shirt $21.68 |
CRIME Shirt $21.68 |
>Silver dragon
There you have it. Silver dragons are the redditors of dragon and thus shouldn't be trusted with important tasks.
Fricking have a nice day you brainless npc homosexual.
it's not her fault that deskari rolled a crit
>scythe
>probably had improved critical (mythic)
>can deal like a hundred damage in a single attack
She was below negative after the first before the decapitation.
Turning her into a miserable walking corpse is only fitting. All that hurdurr corruption training, and b***h manages less than a bunch of level 1 nobodies.
Why did she call him Lord of locusts anyway? I'd call him abyssal filth and not by the honorary title.
Honor demands that you respect your opponents or something. Only roguish chaotics get to be sassy and disrespectful to their enemies.
>Why did she call him Lord of locusts
It's his surname.
Also dude's a demigod, it's not polite to insult demigods.
>Why did she call him Lord of locusts anyway? I'd call him abyssal filth and not by the honorary title.
A lot of the dialog in the prologue is cringy. I expect it's all for the player's benefit, to bring them up on the situation in the game, the enemies and their titles, the politics, etc.
>Deskari, b***h Ass homie, Leave! My! City!
Expectations:
>Steamy hot voice of a milf in her late 30s. A hint of wine and cigarattes making her voice darkner, mature and serious
Reality:
>Thotvoice of someone in early 20s.
What the actual frick Owlcat. Terendelev b***h had a much more feeting "milf-queen" voice compared to that Octavia bullshit. In general most of the companion voices I've heard so far are all reddit-tier. Quirky, "funny" and all that jazz. The NPCs - save for Galfrey - on the other hand deliver everything I asked for and more.
It's like they did it on purpose
she's been drinking elixirs of immortality since she ascended the throne, anon
Much more fitting voice - and have some chill music while we're at it
>character takes potions of immortality that keep her 21 at most
>lets give her a cigarette mommy voice actor
you're a shit casting director, anon
Look at that artwork and tell me that she looks 21.
Looks like she's in her 20s to me
Only problem is the grandma hair
Her voice actor was born in 1987, so she's 35 years old. That's literally what you asked for. That's the voice of someone in her late 30's.
You're moronic for thinking that an immortal 20something wouldn't sound like an immortal 20something.
>Instead of turning her into sexy ghost or submissive zombie-girl she turns into old hag in Lich path
Ill never forget owlcat, huge missed opportunity
No, it's because data mined content indicates she was supposed to have a much larger role, especially when interacting with her on the Aeon path.
>especially when interacting with her on the Aeon path
What was supposed to happen in that case? I can't imagine an aeon would have a particularly good opinion of an underachieving queen living well past her due lifespan.
turn her into an old hag.
Or you can romance her, remove yoruself from the timeline, and she stays forever alone gazing in the balcony, trying to remember something important.
That will teach her
He meant Terendelev. There's a lot of dialogue between her and the MC that never made it into the game.
We were denied Terendelev romance, gentlemen. It's Mazzy all over again
>We were denied Terendelev romance, gentlemen.
Fricking goddamn man. May every Ukrainian that heads into battle be fueled by this thought as a source of strength.
>Hohols
Reddit is that way kind sir
Or Ventuswill
Game developers just don't want us romancing dragons
They can still add her in DLC. Especially now when they have most bugs under control and can release a NPC DLC.
Thye just need to figure out an overpowered class for her, which justifies the DLC, just like Kineticist was.
Have they given any indication what the next season pass will have beyond continuing on the plot of Through the Ashes? That ends on some cliffhanger with the gnome having some association to a minor demon lord right?
>A hint of wine and cigarettes
You want to frick drunks and smokers?
Your voice does not change after puberty you dumb ass. You would need to smoke 2 packs a day for any meaningful voice change.
Nah Galfrey was perfect. Romancing her on Angel path made the whole thing worthwhile.
why would you want to romance an 800 year old hag
You wouldn't be saying that if she had the body of a little girl.
He wouldn't be saying that if she wasn't such a stupid b***h.
The feminism in this game is unbearable. I can't believe how there are Gankertards who actually claim to be against sjws who even made the protagonist a strong empowah feminist dyke too. Like 99% of the characters, specially the leaders and generals, ARE ALL DYKES, and you go on and make the story EVEN MORE woke by making the hero a dyke too? Unbelievable.
>specially the leaders and generals, ARE ALL DYKES
Only Anevia and Irabeth, take your meds
And Nocticula, and the Queen, and the Crusader goddess, and the demon woman from the beginning, and the goddess that redeemed Arue, and Arue herself, and Wendu, and the fire woman that wants to take over Nocticula's realm.
Not that it surprises me a troony like you likes dykes, quit simping for them in the internet and go rape one in a bathroom already, troon.
>It's Farquaad
Nevermind then
You will never be a woman and dykes will never want you, troon.
How the frick did we go from men enjoying lesbians from Arab shieks making harem girls kiss for Offendi in the sixth century to 80's lesbian porn, to lesbians being seen as only enjoyed by trannies?
Oh no, I want to see more vag and less dick, I must be a homosexual! I bet before 2012, if you were even here then, you were one of the morons trying desperately to convince us traps weren't gay.
Anevia was born a man, so Irabeth and him are explicitly not gay. Nocticula is a Succubus who will literally frick anything and anyone, implying she's just a lesbian is shit when she'll frick animals, monsters, constructs, whatever. Same with Arue. The Queen and Wenduag are romanceable by anyone, including men. And Areelu Vorlesh is explicitly not a lesbian since the entire plot of the game and existence of the worldwound is a result of that.
Why do you feel like you have to misrepresent and argue disingenuously to make your points? Do you think if you didn't lie or just presented them in honest good faith that they wouldn't be strong enough on their own?
>kinda-competent female characters are woke empowerment feminism
>evil gigabawd devilesses who are a tenuous ally (and would sleep with anything that moves) are woke empowerment feminism
>ugly trash goblin who doesn't care what you are, as long as you're "strong" is woke empowerment feminism
>player choice is le bad woke empowerment feminism
Meds, please anon, you can't let the bluehairs live in your brain like this, you're seeing things that aren't there.
> Dude women killing men and leading the world and being super powerful dykes is NOT feminism!!!
Pathetic creep.
Having a "big dog" mentality about wanting to constantly be on top of whatever situation you're in isn't healthy, anon, if you shriek this much over women in positions of power in video games, literally never go to your state or country's legislature and take a look inside, it'd be too damaging for your fragile psyche.
>Also, it is very clearly not third wave bullshit culture war feminism because they don't feel the need to punk on "the men" every three seconds to make their characters look competent
bro don't look at med and law school grads for the past 10 years you'll wanna have a nice day
>why the hell did you act so high and mighty before
Because she actually won the 4th crusade by defeating karzaasghkjghk whatever the demon general.
She fell for her own hype (or she was bluffing).
Was the demon general of the 4th crusade level 1? Really wish they at least let her get some attacks off before she died. Really started on a joke note to have her get 1 shot.
Deskari is a fricking demon lord, a demigod
Deskari is food
>wanting to eat the lord of locusts
Go frick yourself klaus, we will not eat ze bugs.
Remember the fake hype for the path on Ganker? And then Steam statistics proved that barely anyone played as Swarm. A waste of resources.
At least it has some connection to the story via that evil dude. Meanwhile Devil and Golden Dragon are legit asspulls, and not even the fun kind at that. The problem in general is that they all come in act 5, and unlike Legend they lack the appeal. Had we had the ability to meet some Devil in act 1 who goes "psst kid, wanna sign a contrat?", or a Golden Dragon father-figure of Terendelev go "shit, we gotta revive her - quick let me empower you so that we can work together" or something along those lines things would have been far more natural and smother.
I also honestly doubt that they'll fix that problem with EE.
1. Gold Dragon and Swarm should've been cut.
2. Azata + Trickster should've been combined into a Fey Path.
3. Devil should've been a starting path. The forces of Cheliax and the Church of Asmodeus are already part of the Crusades.
4. Legend should've been a starting "hard mode" path, with story rewards.
5. Demon should've been the only late game path. It makes no sense demonic powers would be tolerated by anyone in the Crusades. Relegate the path to when you are banished to the Abyss.
6. Cut the Lich path, and save it for later DLC.
Here you go, now you can apply much more resources to a smaller, more sensible pool of paths.
>Swarm should've been
frick you
>Path of the Swarm
>1,3% of players
A waste of resources.
>make broken, unfinished path
>everyone warns everyone else the path is broken, unfinished and convoluted to acquire
>nobody except diehard fans of the concept bothers to explore it, understanding ahead of time it'll be underwhelming
Shocking!
don't care. swarm is based. ee will be our time to shine
this tbh
>Gold and Swarm cut
Honestly this. They're memes at this stage.
>Azata + Trickster
Bruh....Why does this fit so well. And at worst you could split it into two again, like with angel, one for Lantern King for lolz and "good" fey for the rest.
If only this was a perfect world....
>cut lich path
Absolute horseshit.
Like, the rest of the suggestions are not great, but this is beyond moronic
a whole dlc for lich path is too much, i agree
cut lich path. period.
Considering I called 'cut lich path' bullshit in the first place, not the DLC part of the post, this attempt to be witty makes no fricking sense.
Your taste in mythic paths is as garbage as your sense of humor and reading the flow of convos.
You absolute moron
>remove lich
>but keep trickster as an amalgam
opinion thoroughly discarded
>Azata + Trickster combined
Would that really work? I don't know about Azata, but Trickster is basically you deciding between becoming part of an Eldest or becoming your own independent Archfey. Honestly though Gold Dragon was not only an asspull, but thoroughly disappointing. The Gold Dragon you meet in the game, the supposed pinnacle of goodness, righteousness, protectiveness, and power spends the entire fricking time playing house with cultists instead of helping innocent people who are constantly getting slaughtered by demons. Honestly, frick Hal, frick Galfrey, and last but most certainly not least, frick that moronic goddess Iomedae.
That's why Aeon's solution is the only sensible one - completely reverse the Worldwound and all the death, pain and misery it has brought about.
>Cut one of the only good paths to make the awful paths the main focus
I'm glad you'll never be in charge of creating any videogame.
>Cut the Lich path, and save it for later DLC.
Lich should have been replaced with a vampire mythic path.
>Remember the fake hype for the path on Ganker
it wasn't fake imo, the path just ended up being shit. in the first week it literally didn't work, and your companions didn't even have dialogue when they attacked you in the threshold
>And then Steam statistics proved that barely anyone played as Swarm.
Because it was hyped up here and the reality was it was shit just like golden dragon.
Rushed with no content.
Several reasons. Without a guide and taking specific evil action its pretty difficult to unlock. It generally only of interest of people wanting to do a evil playthrough. Perhaps the biggest stickler here, EVERYONE abandons you for taking this path. Your companions, your advisors, everyone. Depending on your choices you may need to kill your former party members.
You have to be seriously committed to role playing as the biggest dick possible to the point it stops being fun. People talk a lot of shit about the characters, some of it rightfully so but don't think there is a whole lot of people willing to kill all of them off.
>Almost cut everything about the shitty last act and let you rush to the ending
Thank god for that
She almost killed a CR 26 balor demon, but gets 1 shot by a CR 29?
Actually kind of realistic. High level pf is a game of rocket tag, combat rarely lasts more than a couple turns if you know what you're doing.
One round Deskari kills are very easy to achieve on both pnp and videogame, why wouldn't he be able to do the same to Terendelev?
I mean I guess, just from a story telling perspective they could have at least let her live 2 rounds before getting killed.
Because it's a freaking warhero with an impressive backstory where she managed to overcome evil in her heart against all odds? Besides, hello??? Silver Dragon. I mean, at least let her take a few more punches and give her the opportunity to throw a few ice attacks or give a good old bite (lizards like eating insects anyway).
Going out like a total b***h is lame as hell
>Besides, hello??? Silver Dragon.
Yeah, ancient silver dragon (CR19), second tier metallic not even old enough to be at peak strength, nowhere near the top end of pf's power scale.
Nevermind demigods, your kingmaker party should be able to destroy her by the time they reach Pitax.
>it's not tramatic though
Well yes, that's a problem. Should have made her at least a herald of Iomedae or something stupid like that instead of a basic b***h silver dragon, but what can you do? Paizo is not known for its excellently written campaigns.
>Was the demon general of the 4th crusade level 1?
Lol I don't remember what level he was in the videogame, but he was (mechanically) full demon lord tier in the pnp (CR26/MR6, not quite Deskari tier but about the same as Baphomet and Kostchtchie) in spite of being by lore not even a nascent demon lord, just a balor lord.
Terendelev shouldn't have had any business defeating him either considering a silver dragon in the max age bracket is just CR22, but author fiat is overpowers everything else.
>can't revive her as a gold dragon
>no dragon romance
Frick owlcat.
>no dragon romance
This.
What the actual frick Owlcat.
You better give this to us in the enhanced edition.
Motherfrickers.
Just play Azata, Aivu will be up to everything in a few years. And she canonically stays with you forever if you don't take the godpill.
Look here, I ain't about to Usagi Drop this shit, and Aivu needs a proper mom.
>I ain't about to Usagi Drop this shit
It's closer to Kore wa Koi no Hanashi, Aivu has her own set of parents.
Wow.
I think it's been some 5 years ago when I read a couple of chapters of that.
I should pick it back up.
I would have liked if they made her one of the romance options.
Why the frick do people actually argue about whether a simple dragon, no divine herald ir anything would get oneshot by a fricking demigod or not?
Because we're on the internet and we argue about everything. Are you new?
I thought this board at least had less moronic 'contrarian whinging for the sake of it'
You expect too much. Also damn this board is slow. No one posted anything in-between my post and yours.
Why are dragons so shit in this game? Even the gold dragon mythic path is so badly written with your mentor being a complete nutcase.
That's why they're remaking them in the Enhanced Edition.
What'th thith now?
Dragons are always shit in every setting.
They're made to be rekt by the player.
That said they're particukarly bad in wrath because that mystic path was added very late as an extra goal on patreon, so it was basically an afterthought.
I understand the devs wanted to use her as a scale to show off how strong Deskari is, but because they never actually showed her strength, the example fell flat.
They really should have had her easily wipe out a dozen or so demons before battling Deskari for at least 5-10 seconds before she gets defeated.
>kills two mid-high level demons with one spell
>transforms into a frick off dragon
>Only two demons when there is like 30 or so in the square
>Dies instantly after turning into said dragon without accomplishing anything.
She didn't even flinch when Deskari leapt at her, like she was waiting to die. She fought a gold dragon for over a week straight without rest before, but cant side step an extremely telegraphed and slow leap attack?
They should have had a small opening tutorial be with her leading you and cam safely out of the square. You then get to see her just nuke high lvl demons like nothing in her human form before getting roflstomped by deskari
I think I made a mistake by choosing Lich as the first mythic path to play through the game.
Now that I am trying different paths on new playthroughs to see how they differ, I can't get over just how weak they all feel.
Even the angel everyone claimed is the be all and end all on par with Lich does frickall for damage and 90% of its spellbook is composed out of redundant defensive buffs.
How do I make this game fun again?
Angel gets mass bolt of justice which clears rooms in one cast. As far as I know that's usually what people are talking about being overpowered, the rest is in line with other mythic paths.
24h party wide sword of heaven was pretty fricking obscene before they nerfed it.
Anon, Angel is powerful because of joining spellbooks. Choose a divine full caster and you'll be 3 levels ahead in casting. Then use the 24h everything buffs + bolt of justice + solar thing to clear maps in a wink.
>trash game
>trash posts
>filtered by the game
>filtered by the board
Cleric vs Oracle for a gish type character?
I know that battle Oracle is crazy, but how does Cleric compare?
Any interesting dips?
>Cleric vs Oracle for a gish type character?
Oracle is basically a focused cleric. If you want to specifically be a gish (in the sense of buffing yourself to the gills and then go to town with a weapon) it's clearly better as long as you choose gish mysteries like battle.
>I know that battle Oracle is crazy, but how does Cleric compare?
Take oracle, remove all abilities other than spells, you have a cleric. As a gish, knowing all the spells is not really useful to you.
>Any interesting dips?
The usual bullshit. Paladin for cha to saves, monk for cha to ac, etc. Depending on your mystery and revelations they might end up being redundant.
I guess you could go oradin, but dedicating resources to healing is not really optimal for a gish.
Cleric is pretty much 100% a support class.
Neither class should be multiclassed, nor is there literally any benefit whatsoever to doing so.
I'm going to play a gnome arcane rider on a raptor and no one can stop me. I only lose one level for hunter to pick the raptor instead of a horse.
>that portrait
You try to find a good picture for such a character without shooping something together yourself.
Boring.
I have plenty my homie. And if I'm going to photoshop anything it's not gonna be pictures that have different lighting, or at the very least to my very best to mask that
another recolor I did because the original was blue instead of red
Oh, quite the artist here, showing off a Kingmaker portrait from his wast collection.
>artist
Lol frick no. I just edit pictures on photoshop, but I don't cobble together shit like you did.
You make recolors. That's even less effort. Pretentious c**t.
How the frick am I pretentious? I'm saying what you did was dogshit, then you asked me what I've done, and I showed you.
I don't staple together images like you did because they will always end up looking like shit, like yours. Dude you can't even be assed to find a higher resolution picture for your dinosaur.
>I don't staple together images
Then stop talking about shit you know nothing about.
Oh I know what I'm talking about because I used to do the same thing - pic related, it's mediocre at the very best. But guess what? They always end up looking like shit because the lighting will almost always never match, so you need to do your best to hide that fact. But you just pasted a 300x800 picture of a dinosaur and just stretched it until looks like a myopia test.
With that quality you don't get to talk.
You should probably take your own advice
I can see the pixels ffs.
No shit. Is that why you caked your picture with the blur tool until you can emulate eye defect?
It's not that hard, anon.
Hate it when artists do their character portraits on a white background and not transparent. Takes an unneeded amount of fiddling to make it even somewhat passable.
>mixing digital coloring with canvas / digital canvas painting
Yeah, it's not hard to have it look disjointed and unnatural like that
Very fortunate lighting but the edges of the arms and lower robes still look glaringly out of place. Not bad for an ultimately futile endeavor, anon.
Can you throw in an actual not-shit portrait for a dwarven druid that actually fits Kingmaker?
Here, have a dwarf feyspeaker.
Not quite in the same style, but one that could pass as a druid, maybe. But then again I don't have many pictures of dwarves because I think they're lame
I found another dwarf just for you.
This one is supposed to be a human, but can easily suit a dwarven druid.
And the smaller version, non waifu2xed.
And x1.6, which is probably the best for the big portrait. The first one is too big, didn't notice it.
Can you make his face look younger?
Why not just build a cavalier?
>dipping for a different animal companion
Interesting idea.
Since we are already discussing power level bullshit, and Owlcat is making a Rogue Trader crpg, how would Rovagug fare within the 40k verse? He seems to be the designated "final boss" of the Pathfinder universe, but it seems like 40k is full of such creatures already. Still, a literal army of deities couldn't kill him.
> how would X fare within the 40k verse?
Don't. The entire point of 40k is that everything is the single most OP version of it. There are guns that shoot atom thin ninja stars or one that time travels your body from the future to super-impose it over your present body, having neutrons trying to overlap themselves and ultimately collapsing you into a black hole.
Just don't.
Ok. What about Warhammer Fantasy then?
i'm not that well versed in Warhammer Fantasy and most of my knowledge about it I got via osmosis with Vermintide and Total Warhammer, but since Rovagug is just very likely an Old One (eldritch entity) that just crashlanded on Golarion, I'd say he'd fit in neatly as one of Chaos' strongest avatars or champions, but not quite one of the Chaos Gods as they are not "dudes" afaik and closer concepts and forces of nature. Could just be my 40k lore bleeding in, but i'm not sure. Rovagug would likely only be killed if at least half the Warhammer setting banded together, which they never will and which is why Chaos will always win the longest of runs.
But pulling back to 40k, you'll actually have a pretty good grasp of what the Warp is by just internalizing that it's both Worldwound and First World mashed together into an incoherent, immaterial and unbelievably dangerous adjacent dimension to the material plane. I'm legit curious how they're gonna explain away you having alien companions, cause maybe I just don't know Rogue Traders enough but I find it to be nigh impossible.
Rogue Traders can do pretty much whatever they want except for worship chaos (some do).
>how would Rovagug fare within the 40k verse
It's not very clear how powerful Rovagug actually is, as pathfinder gods are pretty shit tier power wise but at the same time they managed to capture an entity that supposedly can bring forth the literal end of the multiverse to start a new cycle.
Best way to approximate it would probably be that anything god tier in warhammer can stop it, nothing can kill it.
Was super disappointing to find out that was the only cutscene of it's kind in the entire 150 hour campaign.
Good, unskippable cutscenes should be illegal.
But it is skippable.
No, the part where Deskari carves a hole in the middle of Kenabres is not, in fact I think it's the only unskippable cutscene in the game.
OP y-you're being rude to my waify ;_;
I'm not even going to give you a (you)
Is there any way to see what Mythic Paths actually do before you take them in game?
https://pathfinderwrathoftherighteous.wiki.fextralife.com/Mythic+Path
>fextralife
yeah, yeah
blame owlcat for making it the official fricking wiki
That site it really trash to navigate. I was hoping to see something in game like you can see what character classes give you at each level
you kinda can
Ohh, at least it explains the "requires mythic path" crap, I thought I was locking myself into a path if I took that option in the 3rd conversation of the game. That's totally misleading.
You definitely can see the path progression in the mythic tab of the character sheet once you've picked it, the game is really inconsistent about making those available in character creation for some reason.
Just make sure you block out their twitch embed. They're farming viewers with that and twitch is doing frick all about it.
already do, bruv
This b***h canonically died to the Stormlord's whip when Kenabres ate shit. I guess Owlc**t changed it here.
who?
Khorramzadeh, the Stormlord. He's basically just a blue Balor with lightning powers. You get to fight him in the game and he's legitimately worse to fight than any full demon lord other than Ereshkigal.
Notably, aside from Terendelev and many other heroes, Khorramzadeh defeated Helbrecht of the Black Templars and took his hand as a trophy.
>Khorramzadeh, the Stormlord. He's basically just a blue Balor with lightning powers. You get to fight him in the game and he's legitimately worse to fight than any full demon lord other than Ereshkigal.
He is not that bad if you have everyone equipped with evasion rings.
The main issue is his Vavakia buddy with 80 AC on normal, albeit he can't do shit either since the rings also counter his breath.
>Kill and repurpose the 80AC Vavakia
>It rapes the balor
>Mom revives balor so it can get its salty runback against an unprepared mishmash of companions I didn't bring with me
>There's also 2 waves of demons from two other sides so there's no escape
>Those few who survive run toward Khorramzadeh because that's where Storyteller, the only guy who can actually hit and damage demons, went
>While all this was happening the repurposed vavakia and a bunch of other undead demons slapped his shit again and then pour into the camp to wipe out the demons that swarmed in while every survivor hastes past them
It was probably my favorite moment of the Lich run in what would otherwise be a stupidly lame encounter.
It's hilarious on Legend and Devil too when Meph shits out like 4 dozen summons and solos everything
oh, that guy
i beat his ass to death
Don't be mean! She is many people's waifu.
>Lich party composed of undead and evil characters
>Life's good even on Unfair
>Time to make a good-aligned party for the next playthrough
>Get raped in the gargoyle cave because everyone is vulnerable to Smite Good
Why the frick would anyone ever roll a good character in this piece of shit setting?
Because I want to be a LG paladin shoving my holy wiener into evil chicks. Duh.
Well, it's accurate depiction of the setting. The crusades were getting their shit pushed in.
your choice of gods are pretty based
shelyn, sarenrae, and desna are all in a lesbian threesome too
they're all bi
Desna lets the player have this: https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/butterfly-s-sting-critical/
Quite possibly the most powerful teamwork feat in this system.
>When you confirm a critical hit against a creature, you can choose to forgo the effect of the critical hit and grant a critical hit to the next ally who hits the creature with a melee attack before the start of your next turn. Your attack only deals normal damage, and the next ally automatically confirms the hit as a critical.
Holy frick
Yup. Rapier player can transfer free crits to Scythe player with +crit multiplier build and critical effects.
Sadly they never implemented it. Thousands of other feats like this which will likely never see the day in video game.
they could totally make a divine feats addon mini dlc. they're just too lazy
Personally I want feats like this implemented: https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/impaling-critical-combat-critical/
Feats that truly enhances the weapon classes which most players consider trash weapons.
Spear, Trident, short sword, etc.
Those are the really good feats to balance up the system.
>most powerful teamwork feat
I mean, it honestly doesn't matter much in the game if you're already running 4 frontliners (Trickster main for improved improved improved improved critical netting a ~50% crit chance with an x4 or x5 weapon) feeding each other crits off of outflank and seize the moment. Just crit baphomet or deskari once and laugh as a massive wall of text flows through the combat log while the health bar instantly disappears.
Alternately roll a merged angel caster, pre-buff and cast bolt of justice.
Man I just tried the game and I'm inclined to agree with people that mythic makes it too easy, and the inability to drop those in favor of going Legend from the get go really soured my experience. Chapter 5 and 6 sucked as per usual I guess, but 1-4 was pretty good. 1 and 2 were great, 3rd was surprisingly interesting due to exploration and 4th was a pain the ass so I just cheated and used teleport keys to get around - cut my travel time by more than half lol. A shame you can't curb Nocticula, wanted to fricking destroy that evil b***h together with Baphomet and then Deskari. Apparently trickster and Demon can, but only after chapter 5.
All in all I really disliked the "gonna judge you, homosexual" stance they took with Iomedale and Nocticula. I was like "bitches, go frick yourselves I don't give a shit, leave me alone and let me play" - but nah gotta drop the whole judgement shtick.
Mounted combat tanking and mythic cheese ability stacking made the game unironically too easy. They change the meta a bit too much, also a lot of classes got obsolete with things like Primalist gigamogging the entire Barbarian class. The system got really bloated in that aspect. I did like Chad Vital Strike Rowdy tho.
That aside the whole GRAND UBERCHAD CHOSEN ONE GOTTA SAVE THE WORLD - but really you're just a creation of a bored grandma b***h and an a whorish demon who basically represents all females in this world - really wasn't my shtick. Also didn't like how I'm surrounded by women and troons. Like frick off already.
Companions TL:DR:
Aruehuehueshliluya: "I can fix her" power fantasy maxed out. Even I tolerated it, meaning that coomers will be fapping real hardcore to that shit.
Black person Paladin: Ghetto talk with the whole "brotha, sista" was too Black person for me. Kicked her out and invited a fighter to tank.
Woljiff: Too much reddit
Lann: Started out as too much reddit, but then actually grew on me.
Camilla: Psychopath deserve the rope, so I kindly executed her when I finally found out. Wish I could do it in chapter 1 but oh well. Called her being a killer day 1, but I guess everyone else is too moronic. 10/10, we need more companions that are there just to be killed.
Wenduarg: Discount Psychopath only dumber. Executed her after she was caught eating male meat - no innuendo btw.
Basedsiel: Contemplated kicking him, but then he didn't talk with whole "brudda ghettotalk", and his story with his brother was actually alright, not the greatest, and could have been done better. I got some serious "please buck-break me"-vibes from him tho.
Trevor: Ekundayo part 2. Nothing memorable.
Daeran: Started out reddit power-fantasy of rich guy, but then got interesting and by the end of it I was laughing real hard with him going "SHOW THE MIDDLEFINGER TO IEMEKEKDALE!!!". Based. He hated all the other characters I hated, 10/10.
Nenio: Furgay reddit companion. Meh, kicked and didn't regret anything. Her comments are moronic anyway "OH GEE SCIENCE!!!! I HECKING LUV SCIENCE!!!!!!"
Regill: Greatest companion in RPGs this past decade. Him being stuck in this game is a punishment.
Greybor: "It's only business". Actual non-reddit companion. Kept him and didn't regret a thing. Great guy.
Ember: Squiky mary sue "Talk no Jutsu" bullshit. Next playthough I'm gonna allow the knights to execute her.
>Ghetto talk with the whole "brotha, sista" was too Black person for me.
moron. That is how paladins talk.
>This is Paladin talk
Confirmed. Paladins are the Black folk of Pathfinder
>Greybor: "It's only business". Actual non-reddit companion. Kept him and didn't regret a thing. Great guy.
Commander. I must say that it is a pleasure to work with you. Your professionalism is top notch, as is your work ethic. I typically don't get clients like you. No, my clients tend to, shall we say, have a head full of water?
Take my last job, for instance. A brother hired me to deal with another brother. Sounds like a typical inheritance or title battle, doesn't it? But these were teenagers, Commander. You know what upset this client? He shouted "last one to jump in the lake is a homosexual" and jumped in, expecting the brother to scramble to jump in.
The brother jumped in. Now my client was a homosexual.
>*hits pipe*
So this teen hired me to frick his brother. Frick him right in his boypussy. It was an easy enough job. The guards knew not to disturb us. So despite the cries and plea, the guards never stopped me. And this client had specific request, so after I nutted in the boy, I had to whisper in his ear "Who's the homosexual now?"
>*hits pipe*
Turns out I was the homosexual, Commander. See, the two brothers played a joke on me. They made me frick a servant in the ass just to call me gay.
Highly unprofessional. I'm glad to be working with you instead.
>Hits pipe
Commander, I'm high as the fricking sun right now, but despite all that I'm gonna advice you to recruit Hedge Knights because individual skill > everything else.
Hedge Knights carried me almost as hard as Snipers. Based Greybor.
>packwatch: the companion
You aren't solid.
>Camelia
>Nobody knows.
Didn't you pay attention? It's stated outright that many high-ranking members of the Crusade know/suspect her proclivities, but pretend not to notice due to her value/status.
Keep in mind that, at this point in time, the Crusades are desperate enough to include penal battalions, rabid witch hunters, and servants of Hell.
Hell, a bunch of your party (especially Daeran) take pot shots at her whenever you camp.
When? Outside of the quest I haven't seen anything outside of the Fat Rich man hinting at it. That was once. Daeran taking a shot is fair, but I didn't see it because I didn't have them at the same party during rest
Anevia flat out says she know Camellia is murdering crusaders.
Wendy also says shit, and I think Greybor did too. Other party members kinda skirt around it for the most part. Funnily enough, I think Arue is pretty much the only one who actually acts like she thinks Camellia is a good person.
What? Not even Ember is calling her a confused good person?
>Other party members kinda skirt around it for the most part
You people keep saying this but I can't remember any moment in the game other than Daeran and Wenduag doing it
Anon, Anevia flat out says she helps cover Camelia's murders.
what a cuck
imagining coving up grisly murderers so a psycho cannibal can get her rocks off and have kinky sex at the scene of the crime
She leads you, the commander, to discover Camellia's extracurricular activities. If you decide to overlook that, the else Anevia is suppose to do? Try and rat out both of you to the queen? Kill Camellia herself?
Honestly the crazy murderer bawd did more for the crusades than the queen did. She was useful.
I meant companions
>"I can fix her"
>implying
camellia
murder cannibal?
what about murder cannibal sexualism?
I still find it hilarious how seething some of the players were at the notion that Camelia doesn't get a "happy" ending - they completely missed the point of her character.
It's not wonder they slapped that "Ascension" ending to most paths - imagine the reeeing if several paths were devoid of a "golden" ending. And then they made the Ascension ending having the player do exactly what the villain wanted all along, and it flew right over most people's heads. And yes, Owlcat has confirmed that the Ascension ending is a trap.
>Reddit
Is that what too much Internet does to your brain? The only adjective one can up with is "reddit"?
>everything is le 4chin meme's xd
Holy shit, what a braindead monkey. have a nice day.
Woljif and Lann were the exact opposite to me. I found Woljif annoying at first but he grew on me, while Lann I only really liked when he's in the council meetings.
What's a fun build/playstyle for the demon mythic class?
Two-Handed Fighter specializing in the Glaive.
Kitsune primalist with serpent bloodline biting and clawing its way to the top.
Rowdy Vital strike build. 11 levels to get it online and after that you're free to add whatever you see fit. 5 levels I put into Scion and 4 DD (Precise Strike, otherwise I would have gone bard), then finish off with either two handed fighter or mutagen warrior depending on what you want.
Granted Trickster probably would work better with that shit, but I don't like its theme so it can go frick itself.
Well, if you are going mutagen warrior, you should get at least 5 levels of it.
Slayer for quick study and some extra sneak dice or freebooter for sense vitals and freebooter bane/bond is also good.
Generally, I'd pick a full bab class for a vital strike build after you get all you want from Rowdy
>11 levels to get it online
Absolute trash.
>Gets Vital Strike at level 1, 6 and 11 as opposed to 6, 11, 16
>Trash
U fookin wot mate?
>dip one level in rowdy
>go slayer chad after
I don't know how well this would work but there's a demon ability that adds reach to all your spells in demon rage so I was thinking about doing an Eldritch Archer, since one of their main weaknesses is that most of the Magus spells are touch spells and they need ranged touch spells.
God seeing her decapitated makes me diamond hard every time
Is it worth putting spell focus/greater spell focus into necromancy for lich spells?
If you do not play on unfair and trying to utilize Expanded arsenal, just focus on your preferred school
Lich doesn't really care that much about DC since your main killing tools, Exsanguinate and Feast for Blood always hit and always deal full damage.
If you have nothing better to spend your feats on, sure. But it's not that important.
Dafuq does Anevia get off DEMANDING that I convene an urgent council? I want to backhand that b***h so bad right there.
her waifu was taken, pls unerstan
How do I make the troon leave? I don't like him at all, nor do I like his Paladin orc, and I've been told that it is possible to make them leave - but how?
The game would have been so much better if you could kick them to the curb and have someone like Staunton or Regill as your head officers. Staunton because he's far more interesting as a overtly "flawed" hand of commander, and Regill because he fits the role perfectly.
how gay do you have to be to see trannies over females everywhere
>he doesn't know
Boy do I have a surprise for you
I legit had no idea it was a dude originally, had to look it up on the wiki. In this setting, though, it's quite honestly the only place where they are legit women because it's literally magic. As much as it might make anon seethe I don't think this bothers me because it's not a dude who cut his dick off then bombed his body with female hormones to convince himself he didn't make the mistake of a lifetime.
Even Baldur's Gate 1 lets you swap sex with a cursed belt, so I don't think it's that crazy in Pathfinder, unless there's something else I'm not aware of.
Genderswaping makes troony obsessed anons seeth like crazy. Just like when a fictional female character talks to another man they start screaming cuck.
That's your brain on too much anime. They start thinking like Japanese otaku - if a female character isn't a 100% pure as snow virgin, it automatically makes you a cuck.
This. I remember when I was a young lad playing Baldur's Gate 1 for the first time. I put on that fricking belt(you know which one i'm talking about) and was positively seething when I realized I got turned into a woman. After I uncursed myself I put it on Khalid and made him put on the disipliner ring(the ring that reduces your WIS and INT to 3) so he'd be a brainless bimbo for the rest of the game. Those were the fricking days, man. Games will never be that level of comfy again.
rapist
Is it rape when they can't remember?
>so he'd be a brainless bimbo for the rest of the game.
Holy fricking shit I should've done the same
young Sigourney Weaver is one of the hottest women in history, I don't understand why so many anons think attractive women need to be jawlets, chinlets e liplets. A fricking tragedy.
they are not fricking comparable. anevia looks like a goddamn man with makeup
>young Sigourney Weaver is one of the hottest women in history
Hell fricking no. Even at her best she was just ok.
I agree with the general sentiment however, masculine features =/= defined features.
suspected homossexual
Sigourney has an even larger jaw you absolute moron.
I never said she was perfect
>one of the hottest women in history
That's one hell of a flaw to have for such a lofty rank.
She doesn't even stand out among the actresses of her own generation.
I was mostly referring to her face, anon, as an example of an attractive woman that doesn't have k-pop tier receding chin and jawlines. I can think of many many women with better bodies than Sigourney, pic related. I legit forgot she had ginger ass.
confirmed shaft licker
Or your waifu is just shit. Seethe harder.
>waifu
not everyone is as demented as you. cope
>not everyone is as demented as you
Said Sigourney Weaver simp having a meltdown right now kek
Roided unfortunately, but that's a given considering her choice of profession - most of them are, but not the Alien chick. With that said women roids are the safest steroids there are and more women should be on them so that we can return to the glorious boomer standard of 80s.
>Roided
source for that? Afaik she's been clean since forever, and she had to take take tests before each fight. And no, not all MMA women are roided, but bodybuilders almost certainly all are, and they all look like shit because they lose their contour and silhouette, as well as end up looking something in between a dude and a muscular woman.
> and more women should be on them
Absofrickinglutely not, are you insane? Women on steroids end up looking like that chick from TLOU2 that had people legitimately unsure if she was a troony or not because of her massive fricking shoulders.
Your last (You) from me, spend it wisely.
>not all MMA women are roided
I very much doubt there's one single professional athlete in any sport who isn't roided.
You do know they all check for steroid use, right?
They've moved the goalposts on what they consider steroids. Plenty of performance enhancing drugs are considered "non-roids", when in reality they really are, but that's just nature of the beast. So yeah, in general, what that anon said is truth - most if not all of them are on some sort of drug. That whole notion of "clean" is just obfuscation.
Keep sperging Weaver. It's hilarious.
shit taste
Anevia being a man is even less is doubt in the setting than it would be irl for a troony.
Because while we're still fighting over the definition of woman and female, in Golarion polymorph effects are not true transformations, and a body has an objective true shape.
I'm pretty sure souls aren't gendered in the setting though, so switching to a natively female body might do the trick. Too bad Anevia just drank a potion, lol.
Second edition polymorph spell had the effect that the longer someone is in a polymorphed state, the more likely they started to be convinced that was their natural state until that actually flips over they stop being magical and a dispel will no longer work, only a wish.
No idea about pf2 honestly, I switched back to dnd when the new editions came around.
>convinction makes spells real
Wait a sec, wouldn't this mean baleful shadow transmutation would become permanent and real on round 1?
>we're still fighting over the definition of woman and female
It is true NPC discussion, on PCs power level your biological sex is fashion choice as important as deciding if you want your robe of OP power in blue or red.
>on PCs power level
Too bad Anevia is a b***h ass ranger npc.
Both her and her orc have PC class (in low tier classes but still they are no level 1 commoner) levels and are wealthy enough to buy magic items so for them it is also a question of personal preference as important as for us deciding what kind of car we want to have.
>wealthy enough to buy magic items
the orc had to sell her family sword for the genderbent potion
>pawning off your heirlooms to pay for the bills
Anevia is a woman alright
Which is strange to me, considering she had 50,000 (fifty fricking thousand) gold to reward the PC with when they gave her sword back. That's already the full price of a +2 Holy Evil Outsider Bane Longsword, or +4 if she has a friend who can craft.
Have you considered the possibility that they became wealthier after buying the elixir before the game started
NTA but Anevia being a troony is (pnp) canon.
You can hardly blame others for calling a spade a spade just because it makes you seethe to see people make a distinction between men pretending to be women and actual women.
be a demon or swarm.
anevia's voice is fine, if they didn't give her such a goddamn manjaw nobody would know she's a troony
>Valerie is a troony now
Paizo directive to maker her uglier
Did they restore cut content yet?
No, they already confirmed the Enhanced Edition will have additional content for ALL paths.
Also some of the patches have restored broken epilogues/quests/content.
How will this work with those that own original? Pay full price, or will it cost like DLC for those that own original?
It's free
Owners of the base game get it for free.
Plus they already confirmed there will be six DLCs in total. That plus the EE leads me to believe the datamined content missing from the game will eventually be added, like the Terendelev romance.
>Terendelev romance
this literally never happened or was implied in any way
Well, it's the easiest starting point if she already have some sort of hidden content in the game already.
I bought beneath the stolen lands on a whim and soloing it has so far been the most fun I've had on pathfinder. I especially enjoy the lack of: Ambushes, forced managment mechanics, slow map travel, timers.
What are the chances of them adding more companions for each mythic path? The only ones implemented are companions for Lich, and Galfrey for Angel. If we stretch the definition a bit, you can maybe add Azata to this as they got that Aivu. But what about the rest? Demon got nothing, Aeon got nothing, and if you would implement companions for them, who would it be?
For Aeon, I'd say you can go with pretty much anything, but I suppose Staunton would be a decent. For Demon I have no idea. Maybe one of the Abyss NPCs we meet in chapter 4.
Galfrey is a companion if romanced, being angel or not doesn't matter
There were so many things cut:
>Aivu staying with you of you go Azata-->GD
>Nurah being a Trickster companion
>Terendelev being Aeon companion
>Legend earning a council with people from various other paths
>Legend earning a council with people from various other paths
Good thing they cut this one.
>hurr you're the apex humie slaying demons without the help of extraplanar powers
>oh btw here's your slew of extraplanar c**ts to help you out
I feel like that point is moot considering basically everyone in your party except like, Greybor maybe is dependant on extraplanar powers to get around.
Hell, the schizo child is literally the pet project of a god and has brainwashing powers by all rights.
>everyone in your party
You can go solo if the point is going full material plane supremacist, but that's not really a counterargument anyway. If anything, you giving up the mythic juice would have made a great plot hook for healing your contaminated lands and party members
>unhook Woljif, Ember and Daeran from their manipulative daddy/empyreal/cthulhu
>cure the mongrels
>throw Nenio back to the blood clefts
etc.
Sure, but something like that changes everything on too much of a fundamental level for a path choice and Owlcat is too lazy for that shit.
The best they could manage was Swarm and that was solved by getting kekked by Iomedae, having everyone take a piss on your corpse, then do a time skip to ensure you can't kill any of the characters.
>NOOOOOO I DON'T WANT HELP DESPITE EVERYONE BEING ABLE TO JOIN THE CRUSADE
Well good thing you can't reject their help if you want
I don't even get why you two are saying that it was cut, it wasn't
>Terendelev being Aeon companion
fricken what
There were datamined conversations with Terendelev pointing to the fact she would become, in the later chapters, an Aeon-exclusive companion.
The same with Nurah for Trickster. Galfrey was supposed to be Angel-exclusive, as well.
What... why would she be an Aeon path and not, idk, fricken GD?
Because gold dragons are fricking gay.
You are correct but that doesn't really answer my question. though
Probably some bullshit about aeon undoing her undeadening.
She should've stayed dead tbqh
>Galfrey was supposed to be Angel-exclusive, as well
she is angel exclusive
No, romance only, not angel only
You can romance Galfrey as Aeon, as well.
Now I'm mad.
I love how Kingmaker lets you start with +5 strength. It's simply an amazing feeling.
SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME I CAN'T LEAVE ACT 3 BECAUSE I KEEP RESTARTING.
Act 3? I barely make it through the shield maze before I start another build. Can't wait until they release the rogue like dungeon so I can make whole parties of weird builds to curbstomp my restarteritis.
>Can't wait until they release the rogue like dungeon so I can make whole parties of weird builds to curbstomp my restarteritis.
>dungeon is in act 4 so restarters never even reach it
Lmao.
It gets a stand alone version like Tenebrous Depths.
I had forgot about that. I don't think I ever played it either, I only explored the main story version to go kill the spawn.
best class for the second dlc?
>like martyr archetype
>no bard lore
>meh paladin
At least it's not demon dancer.
Azata -
Pros - reinvigorating the land
Cons - helping the bards write their stupid fricking songs
Does reinvigorating the land do anything? I feel like they missed a trick not having the paths do something in the overworld map, like reinvigorating could be like creep and make your units move faster through the area.
It's purely cosmetic. Also, I recommend not playing until the Enhanced Edition comes out - Owlcat has confirmed they're reworking and adding content to ALL paths, not just the late ones.
Do we have a timeframe for that?
Fall
Oh frick yeah.
Thanks anon.
They've also been asking on Twitter and their forums which NPCs would the players like to see becoming full companions. So far Nurah and that Drow seem to be most favoured picks, followed by Hulrun.
It would be great if they added a path with Nurah where you enslave her, maybe only if you're a follower of Asmodeus. I doubt Paizo will allow it though. I have no idea why anyone would want Kaylessa as a follower, I mostly find her annoying.
>I have no idea why anyone would want a redeemed female drow as a follower
>he writes, on a board filled with coomers and waifugays
Bro
If she's still standoffish and rude to the PC I doubt you could romance her. It would be entertaining to make her fall in the Abyss alongside Arueshalah though.
>If she's still standoffish and rude to the PC I doubt you could romance her
Yeah because Camellia totally isn't
she isn't, actually
Maybe I'm wrong, but I got the distinct impression she was written to be someone's OC donut steel. I assumed that's why she has the random conviction to always call the PC "soldier" (which I'd guess someone thought made her cool). She also doesn't indicate at all that she has a reason to stay with your party like Camellia, every time you meet Kaylessa she tells you to frick off. I guess you can write her to do whatever though for the coomerbucks.
>Maybe I'm wrong, but I got the distinct impression she was written to be someone's OC donut steel.
Forn's questline is a backer quest.
>he thinks the coomers partecipating in the vote care about the viability of writing a romance
Keywords here: pussy; drow; companion.
Once again,
bro
>If she's still standoffish and rude to the PC I doubt you could romance her
Yeah there totally haven't been any romances where they act rude towards you at first
Interesting.
Very, very interesting.
Can't wait.
>They've also been asking on Twitter and their forums which NPCs would the players like to see becoming full companions. So far Nurah and that Drow seem to be most favoured picks, followed by Hulrun.
I don't see that on their forums. Got a link?
>They've also been asking on Twitter and their forums which NPCs would the players like to see becoming full companions
link???
How well does paladin go with legend mythic path? What do you class as after?
It's literally 20 more levels with all the BAB that entails, just pick a damage dealing class, like Deliverer
Flame Warden is also very suitable.
Phoenix Rising At 20th level
>the flamewarden gains immunity to fire, and once per day, the flamewarden rises from the ashes of his own destruction 1 round after dying. The flamewarden's body re-forms with all his equipment, and he returns to life with half his maximum hit points.
Phoenix Blast At 16th level
>if a flamewarden dies, his body explodes in a conflagration in a 20-foot spread. Each hostile creature in the area takes 10d6 points of fire damage unless it succeeds at a Reflex save (DC = 10 + half the ranger's level + his Constitution modifier) for half damage. The flames don't harm the flamewarden's allies, who instead are healed 5d6 points of damage, and any poisons they are currently suffering are neutralized.
Burning Renewal At 12th level
>a flamewarden can use the cleansing power of fire to remove afflictions from his body, mind, and soul. When the flamewarden takes 10 or more points of fire damage, he removes the following conditions: fatigued, shaken, sickened, exhausted, frightened, and nauseated. Additionally, he removes 1d6 points of ability damage and 1d6 points of ability drain from the most damaged ability scores of his choice.
>The flamewarden can use this ability only once each time he takes fire damage, regardless of how much damage it deals over the required amount. He can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + his Wisdom modifier.
>If the flamewarden has fire resistance or immunity to fire, fire damage he would have otherwise taken still counts toward activating burning renewal.
Stoking the Embers At 9th level
>a flamewarden can fan the last spark of a recently slain creature's life force back into a full flame. Once per day as a standard action, a flamewarden can touch the corpse of a creature to grant it the effects of breath of life.
And some Fire themed spells.
>finally get to playing WotR
>just got to act two where I have to do the army shit
Did everyone at owl cat sit around and brainstorm how to make the most tedious and time wasting game mechanic they could think of? So far every fight has boiled down to running into a corner and everyone slapping each other until I enviably win.
>boiled down to running into a corner
If you roleplay as a coward, then you're a coward!
The enemy units run to my ranged unit so my two melee units end up running over to the enemies who are in a corner.
Does this get better because it's boring?
The army in Act 2 is boring, for whatever reason the game doesn't give you any of the interesting units until the latter half of Act 3 and there are a lot of shit units you have to wade through. You can also take a wizard general and mostly forget about army mechanics.
>Did everyone at owl cat sit around and brainstorm how to make the most tedious and time wasting game mechanic they could think of?
It might surprise you to learn that in spite of the extremely negative reaction players had to both kingdom building in KM and crusade mode in WotR Owlcat is actually genuinely enthused about making these shit minigames, and we will certainly see another iteration in the upcoming rogue trader rpg.
Rogue Trader basically HAS to have some sort of a management system, since your flagship is, for all intents and purposes, even population-wise, a moving city. If anything, I would expect - and hope - for such mechanics to be greatly fleshed out.
Can anyone explain to me why the DLC for this game is so fricking SHIT? Like holy frick it's bad. Why even bother if it's going to be so shit?
That's just how Owlcat does DLC as a general rule.
Since they half ass all of your "choices" in the game, the DLC always has to be relegated to something instanced and short, instanced and puzzle-ridden so they don't have to balance it for all builds, or just build autism dungeon with nothing in it.
Somehow this time they managed to grab the worst parts of all of them.
How do you guys rate the Mythic paths in general?
For me, Azata = Angel = Lich > Aeon > Legend > Demon > Trickster > Swarm > Gold Dragon > Devil.
Angel=Lich >Trickster > Swarm > Aeon=Azata
>>> Demon=GD > Devil
Angel > Lich > Legend > Aeon > Demon/Trickster >>> Azata > Devil/Swarm > Gold Dragon
Aeon > Angel > Legend > Lich > Azata > Trickster > Demon > Swarm > Dragon > Devil
SIMP Mythic Demon gets rank 10 at the start of chapter 5 as opposed to 10 min before the game ends like everyone else - so something to consider. You still gotta be a SIMP tho, as opposed to Chad Demon who BTFOs Nocticula and takes her place as the Demon Lord. Still pales compared to having access to level 9 spells as early as level 13-14.
Angel > Legend > Demon > Lich > Aeon > Devil > GD, didn't play the other ones
My favorite run was Demon > Legend though
I want Harrim in my party but I don't know what to built him as. So far I'm making him a fighter/cleric, with him having more points towards fighter over cleric.
I don't think that's very wise, anon. He doesn't have the STR or DEX to become a DPS fighterman, nor the CON + DEX to become an effective tank. He is a pretty good cleric but just not a channeling one, so not the best healing cleric. I always spec him as an offensive cleric.
You can, though, multi him into some WIS Arcane so you can replace Octavia with a not-so squishy or not as strong caster.
I see. I will take your advice because I really don't know what to have him as, you're more knowledgable at this building stuff so I'll respec him as only being an offensive cleric.
One common spec is to do him as a necromancer cleric. Shaking bones and stealing hearts of dryads with their low fortitude save.
Pretty much this. Having him become an Arcane caster is going to require bit of an extra investment due to the armor spell failure or completely forgot his ability to wear real armor.
For weapon I usually give him a longspear since it's the only Simple Reach weapon he can wield. You could always give him a shield instead but his -1 DEX is always going to bork his AC and any good defensive feats, so I usually forgo it entirely.
He's pretty much built to be a frontline offensive cleric and I honestly don't know what much else you can do with him without heavy investments.
I hope by "fighter/cleric" you mean "cleric, with fighter-focused feats". Because any significant multiclassing with a caster is almost invariably a bad idea.
He'll never be great in melee but with a reach weapon he can stay behind your frontline and everyone's stats eventually get inflated by +6/+8 items so he'll be able to pull his weight.
>multiclassing with a caster is almost invariably a bad idea
Do you mean divine casters specifically? Because arcane can get fricking insane if you dip not too moronly.
Nah 1 or 2 level dips are OK, or if its a class that still offers spellcasting progression. I'm talking about doing something like 50/50 fighter/cleric, which is what it sounds like he's doing.
Oh ok. I don't blame him too much if he's coming from BG 1 or 2, though.
Although to be fricking honest if you're going F/C just go Paladin wtf is wrong with you
He's making a build for Harrim, who starts off already having cleric levels and is Chaotic Neutral.
I'm aware, it's just that he's not the first person to say they're doing a F/C, but I've heard it before for PCs, which confuses me.
He makes a fairly good disploomer with a thug dip - the only problem is his lack of skill points, so you have to sacrifice either Perception (don't do it) or Lore Religion. But other than that, Intimidation is fairly easy to snowball to incredible values, and it turns him into an excellent long range support instead of a mediocre frontliner.
Actually, Dazzlng Display is a very situational skill - it's mostly good when your party is ambushed. Single target Intimidation has an incredible range, and it frightens only the enemies you want to frighten - namely melee fighters. Making archers and casters run even further away is generally a bad idea.
Heavy Mace is probably the best weapon option. You get +3 with Freedom of Movement from Hargulka, and +5 with bonus to Intimidate in Irovetti's palace if I'm not mistaken.
So, Deskari is a poison demon for Sword of Heaven Abolis hpurposes, right?
So the standard party right now loooks for me: My angel warpriest of Iodmedae, Seela, Sosiel, Ember as double dragon fire witch, Lann going drovier with a bully lizard and Nenio as loremaster once she gets scroll mastery.
It seems to be a bit spell heavy and has lots of healing but it kinda works so far. Haven't gotten to Drezen yet, though. Seela does trickery well enough and self boosted Warpriest still does damage with a boosted Lizard tanking good. Will this be good enough? I mean, I'm only playing on normal anyway.
Sure, almost any party comp will work on Normal.
Your character will eventually have enough self-buffs from Angel that you should be dispatching enemies pretty efficiently, probably the only frustration you'll run into is having to rest but with abundant casting you'll be able to cast one or two spells per combat and still go through whole dungeons without rest. If you don't feel like you need Seelah since you have the lizard to tank you could also swap her for Greybor or Regill once they join your party for more melee damage.
Ember is pretty much useless.
Very few enemies require energy damage to kill, and the few that do can be killed by holy damage procs on melee hits as well as bolt of justice spam.
Ember is better as a supportive hex spammer.
With one level on crossblooded and gold/red dragon bloodline her fire spells do alright damage. Gave her the mythic feat to ignore fire resistance, too. I think she'll make a fine blaster.
The point is not enemies needing energy to die, it's her targeting touch AC.
And she can do so while doing hex support spam. Cackle being move action helps, keep protective oens and evil eye alive while throwing spells.
You either user her spell slots for rays or for enchantment CC plus Hexes.
Because if you do not actually buff them until mythic bullshit coems online, there are plenty enemies they will not hit or shit they will not resist.
>using casters at all
Why? All you need to do is outfit a bunch of melee characters with outflank and seize the moment then wait for a cascade of AoOs that deletes literally fricking everything in the game.
>group of melee characters
>why?
pathing
Just give them reach weapons lmao
Still gets cramped in indoors areas, especially if you have animal companions and/or are enlarging characters. And dungeons like this make up the majority of combat.
You could also have a few ranged characters with snap shot for the same effect but with more range.
Because unresistable chain lightning with mythic element is very fun, especially when you use a kindred-raised half-elf to get a ridiculous charisma bonus.
>love the concept of the Aldori classes and the unique features like steel wall, adaptive tactics, defensive parry, saving slash
>hate having to use the dueling sword and think a rapier would fit the concept much better
Why did they do this? Why can't I just make a smug non-magical fighter wielding a rapier that still gets decent AC and attack bonuses?
>Pathfinder
>why can't I just make a (good) non-magical class?
>a rapier would fit the concept much better
At that point you're just a swashbuckler or duelist prc. I don't remember if either class got adapted into the games though.
Duelist is in, but you only get 10 levels of it. Unfortunately no other martial classes have similar kind of defensive feats to the Aldori classes, so you're kind of stuck combining it with that. Swashbuckler would have been a good inclusion though.
The Aldori classes are good though, they're just not quite as OP as the magical options.
>Swashbuckler would have been a good inclusion though
There is a mod for it
Give me a fun meme build for a grugbrain
I want high defenses and minimal or no spellcasting
Mixed Lineage Bloodrager.
Bloodlines work passively and if you choose the correct ones you will always be boosted by Blur and Displacemnt and haste.
How the hell do you guys get such massive stats? 45 STR is insane and getting 80 CHA seems literally broken. How do you achieve this?
Just stack shit
Mixing Fey bloodrage with Celestial Bloodrage is so ridiculously potent.
1st level, your crits cause Confusion (this would normally cost 2 feats to achieve, a level 9 feat and another feat which requires +10 to +17 levels in base attack. The sheer value of Confusing Critical
is immense and you get it at level 1)
1st level you also get Angelic Attacks, which should be worth 1 feat on its own.
That's 3 feats, how can other Bloodlines ever cope with this?
4th level, Leaping Charger, very practical to have. Worth 1 feat.
And 2 resistances. They scale up as you level. That's definitely worth something.
8th level, you get 1 round of free Blur when you move. valuable defensive trait.
Some weird skill check reroll. It probably has no value in the game. But on tabletop you could rage at will and make use of this.
12th level free passive Haste, this is worth way, wayyyy more than a feat. Immense value.
You get wings, that's cool I guess.
16th level 15 foot aura that lets you dominate all animals and plants with Fasciate. This wold have been OP in Kingmaker.
+4 deflection AC and +4 saving throws against evil creatures.
20th level. All melee attacks come with free Bane enchantment. FUACKKKK I this shit is worth like 10 to 20 feats on its own depending on the setting of the game.
Immunity to acid, cold, petrification. Resistance to Electricity, Fire, and Poison.
That is a motherfricking powerful combination.
Nice. Just finished my Primalist run tonight. First bloodline was Serpent and I was thinking of getting about Fey for Mythic Second Bloodline, but I wasn't so sure about the Bane...
Ended up getting one of the Dragon ones for 4-5 bonus feats.
Primalist is interesting because you can pick&choose/combine bloodlines with traditional Barbarian rage powers.
The Leaping charger at level 4 and the aura at level 16 are the obvious candidates to forgo to get the Lethal Stance with +1 crit multiplier effect.
Some potentially interesting power spike moments for the Fey Bloodrager:
Level 1 - Crit effect if you give him weapons with crit range 18-20
Level 8 - The free Blur
Level 9 - Get Improved Critical to achieve 15-20 crit range
Level 11 - Critical Focus
Level 12 - The free Haste
Level 13 - (A 2nd Critical effect based on Criticla Focus???)
Level 15 - Need to research if Critical Mastery now gives a 2nd Effect, or a 3rd Effect.
Level 17 - The 3rd Crit effect (if it works)
Level 20 - Universal Bane
I'm currently doing a primalist bloodrager with Fey bloodline, I was planning to take the beast totem line at 8 and 12, and lethal stance at 12 and 16 I think. The problem with a lot of the celestial stuff is that it can be replaced with buffs, Greater Angelic Aspect grants the +4 deflection AC and resistance to the party, energy resistance can be put up whenever, leaping charger already gives you 90% of what you'd want from wings. The skill roll and free holy damage would be nice but by the time I could take second bloodline I'd already be out of Act 1 and 1d6 isn't even close to what I can get with other mythic abilities.
Similarly, I am trading out the blur and haste effects since I can have someone else cast those on me for fights where I'm at risk of being hit, whereas pounce is going to hopefully be pretty nasty on this build since I'm focusing on charging. I wanted to try taking advantage of the mobility trickster trick that lets you counterattack AoOs, and trigger them while charging so my counterattacks get the bonus from mythic charge.
>I was planning to take the beast totem line at 8 and 12
Don't you need three beast totem feats for pounce? Did Owlcat make a change from pnp?
You get 2 rage powers per bloodline power you swap.
Playing my first run and going for a death knight lich. If I back out of going full skeleton do I still keep some of my lich abilities/spells?
>Mixed-Blood Rager can use his strange heritage to invoke powers of different bloodlines. Once per day, he can choose a bloodline: until the next time he chooses a bloodline, he gains all the advantages of the chosen bloodline.
Meh I misunderstood the Mixed Blood Rager. I thought he would have 2 active bloodlines simultaneously at the cost of losing his spell casting and losing his 5 Bloodline Feats.
That's too bad really. Losing 5 feats is too much of a loss just to be able to change bloodline once per day.
But wait, if this is true
>Meh I misunderstood the Mixed Blood Rager. I thought he would have 2 active bloodlines simultaneously at the cost of losing his spell casting and losing his 5 Bloodline Feats.
>That's too bad really. Losing 5 feats is too much of a loss just to be able to change bloodline once per day.
Then what the hell is this?
>Starting at 4th level, Mixed-Blood Rager can choose a second bloodline to invoke at the same time.
This implies they DO WORK simultaneously.
Wait, does this mean Mixed BloodRager can invoke from a selection of ALLLL bloodlines?
Day 1, he can choose Fey + Celestial
Day 2, he can choose Fey + Abyssal
Day 3, he can choose Undead + Arcane
etc.
Is this how it works?
What the frick kind of mongrel goblino bloodline does this poor Bloodrager have?
It would be an ancient one, something that has common ancestry with all of them.
They're gonna add Crimson Templar in the EE, right? Surely they wouldn't miss the chance to add the most fitting class twice, right?
>worshipping Ragathiel is essential
Doubt.
He'll get added, it's not too much work for a free update, Owlcat aren't too lazy for that, surely Anon. You just have to believe, haha.
Why would they add a deity who's ass you can kick?
Why are mercs so expensive, holy shit
They already get cucked with 20-point build putting them on level with the weakest companions
I just wanna adventure with homies and not badly written meme characters tbh
I want to make my main guy a mage-type arcane caster this run, what would you guys recommend? Arcanist looked interesting, but the vast majority of the exploits are useless without investment into charisma, and I was hoping to go all-in with either intelligence or charisma exclusively. An Exploiter Wizard could solve this problem, but I would rather go with a Scroll Savant if I was going with a wizard (of which I would be doubling up with Nenio). What did you guys find the most fun playing with? Any arcane caster can work, as long as it's fun.
I had fun with an Azata enchanter sorcerer (I went nine-tailed heir to try it but I wouldn't recommend it, I hardly ended up using the spells you get). I took best jokes which makes hideous laughter disable entire rooms of enemies, with persistent spell and favorable magic the enemy has to pass the save 4 times to resist it. The main downside I ran into is that a lot of bosses and random enemies are completely immune to mind affecting (including Gallu demons for no reason), and then even more are immune to compulsion so you have to read the spell descriptors carefully. With that said favorable magic and zippy magic are going to be good for any caster.
If you want to go Scroll Savant and also use Nenio you can just not be an illusionist. The easiest thing to do with her is to build up her illusion DCs and use phantasmal killer until you get to weird, so your character could do almost anything else and not be duplicative.
>I had fun with an Azata enchanter sorcerer (I went nine-tailed heir to try it but I wouldn't recommend it, I hardly ended up using the spells you get)
Wow, that was almost 1-1 what I was going to do initially but I changed my mind on Nine-Tailed because it seemed gimmicky. I think I'm still going to go with a Azata Kitsune (I really like that one portrait), but I'll go with a Conjuration Scroll Savant. Thanks for the advice bro.
I don't know what the deal with Archanists are, I did a bit of research and apparently there's a lot of amazing exploits that aren't in the game. A real shame because I like the class in concept, but all but a few exploits are a total waste of time.
Arcanist's casting is pretty good on its own since it gets the scroll copying feature from wizards but casts spontaneously like a sorcerer, you could probably just forget about most of the exploits and use the caster level boost feature from the arcane power pool if you wanted.
I don't know if you wanted to focus more on summoning or cc, but some of the high level druid summons are pretty neat so you might think about dipping Loremaster to get the druid spell secret. I think you can only pick each type of secret once, so you'd probably want to wait to get the druid spell one until you can cast 9th level spells, on the other hand Scroll Mastery is based on your CL, not your wizard level, so you could take 10 levels of loremaster if you want.
One of the Arcanist Subclasses swaps it's spellbook with a Druid, so that might be cool. An Eldritch Font Arcanist does look neat as well (I have no clue what Font of Power is supposed to do though, 1 more spell slot but you cast one less spell per day I guess?). I do want to do a bit of both Summoning and CC, so I'm going to try to see which option is better for that.
>doing a aeon/devil run
> get to mythic 9 and get free hellfiee rays
> realize u can use aeons bane with spells.
>dispelling and damage
Il love this.
Also next run I wanna do a shield bashing class with either azata or trickster. Any suggestions?
There's a Warpriest class that specializes in shield bashing specifically, but I don't know how well it will mesh with Azata or Trickster. Also you can't bash with tower shields unfortunately, because that would be too cool.
I've heard ranger cold work, so maybe a freebooter or firewarden?
As long as they're decent in melee and aren't too feat intensive intrinsically, totally. A proper shield bash build takes a lot of investment, since you pretty much require: Two-Weapon Fighting (15 Dex), Shield Bash, Bashing Finish, Shield Master, plus trying to get some feats that add bonuses to shields to make the lack of an off-hand weapon worth it. The big benefit of a Shield Bash build is being able to Dual-Wield weapons while still getting the defensive perks of a shield, while the downside is that you basically have to make sure you're investing everything properly. Part of the reason I recommended the Shieldbearer Warpriest is because it adds benefits directly to your shield, while still giving you a bunch of bonus feats to play around with on top of that.
With the combat style feat types Rangers get (Weapon and Shield), I could absolutely see it working well for you. The first time I tried it was with a Gendarme Cavalier and I beat the game just fine and they don't even get bonuses to that style at all. As long as you know what you're doing, it's not too difficult.
Is there any restrictions to what God you follow as a warpriest?
>desnan shield priest with a starknife.
Azata makes the most sense then.
You can follow any deity you want, as long as your alignment fits within their allowed parameters. The Sacred Weapon ability will only affect the preferred weapon of your deity with a normal Warpriest, but a Shieldbearer gets it on their shield instead. They also determine the blessings that you're allowed to use, which are basically just nerfed versions of the Cleric Domains, but some are better then others. For Desna, I'd look at the Chaos, Luck and Travel blessings. Also, if you choose Shieldbearer, I would pick Heavy Shield Bash as your Weapon Focus when you're prompted. You don't have to use the preferred weapon of your deity (starknife) with a Shieldbearer, you can pretty much use anything you want.
Oh, and I forgot to mention: DO NOT INVEST IN SPIKED SHIELDS. They suck total fricking balls, and it's the absolute worst of both worlds when it comes to dual-wielding shit. Use heavy shields, trust me on this.
Oh ok, they suck that much?
Also can warpriests wear armor?
Yep, any type of armor. Since they're divine casters, they don't have any spell failure in any armor.
It would be cool, but that's probably why you can't bash with them. You sacrifice so much to use them already that getting all the bash feats would be way too feat intensive for all but pure Fighters and maybe Gendarme Cavaliers, and even then they still wouldn't be that good at their job.
It just seems so god damn silly to me.
>Casters
>Oh you want dozens of different ways to kill or permanently disable your opponents? Here you go! But are you sure that's enough? Tell you what, here's Wish, Time Stop, and Chain Contingency, let me know if you need anything else!
>Martials
>Wait you want to do WHAT with a Tower Shield?
Why can't I dual wield shields?
You can't let me have brawler in this game either, why can't I have fun?
An aside, what class can make sling staves work. I can't think of any immediately that wouldn't be outclassed by bows
All it would take is a couple feat dedicated to it, and it would be great. Some upsides, some downsides, hell make an entire subclass around the concept. It's not impossible.
And given the hardon Paizo has for feats, you think they'd be more than happy to add that shit in. I mean they already force you to take a feat for fricking swinging your weapon harder or a feat for having more accuracy when you're closer to your god damn target.
I've thought of a bunch of homebrew-type shit that would go great in these games, if only there were a way to make a sort of "custom class" that you can incorporate elements of different classes into. Tower Shield Specialist and Shield Bearer, Paladin and Monk/Brawler, a sort of Arcanist that merges the Divine and Arcane spell books together (think Cleric/Mage from BG), and the list goes on. I feel like a kind of custom class mod would be amazing in this game, if a little broken obviously.
Gestalt with toybox
Why are people so obsessed with cheats?
If you're going to cheat you may as well just set all your stats to 500 and steamroll everything.
>Muh cheats
He asked for a custom class mod and I gave him an answer
>not immediately kicking your character level to 4 the second you fall down the hole in the prologue
More power to you, but I can't stand the early game in these games.
Buddy the early game is a set of puzzles all its own. Positioning, preparation, and creative use of terrain is so much more important in those early stages.
Playing on hard and full clearing everything before the big bar fight was torturous but it was doable. Wracking your brain to try to solve those problems is the entire point of the game. The story is nothing special. It's the gameplay that we're all here for.
NTA and like him happy you enjoy that sort of thing, but all I find in that type of "puzzles" is tedium, dissatisfaction and an extreme lack of immersion born out of very, very clunky rulesets.
The gameplay is genuinely not a selling point in the slightest unless you have old fashioned build autism, which relates at best to enjoying spreadsheet simulation for the sake of it.
Nothing bad in enjoying that sort of thing, but it's hardly anything special; it's the exact same DnD exploiting of bad design to clear overbloated enemies it has ever been, with vaguely different answers following the exact same patterns all the same, in slightly different positioning.
Man you just need to play on a higher difficulty. The game is boring on normal.
And build autism will ruin it if you go too far. Specifically any build that focuses on stacking DC and casting weird is just no fun to play.
Any builds that use spells are too optimal. Frick magic.
Just play a Spell Master Wizard bro, the absolute definition of "can do no wrong"
You already sacrifice so much just to use tower shields properly that I'm not sure why they wouldn't let you bash with them.
She had the hottest voice. Wish she was a romance. Ah well.
You should write this as feedback in their forums. This is the only way we can get her as DLC waifu.
The story would be good if they let us mate with the waifus we wanted. Dragon waifu, succubus mommy waifu.
Why do people complain about crusade mechanic? Namely it being hard and shit, as a HOMM3 veteran I maxed out the difficulty, and was still shitting all over it. Absolutely no challenge what so ever. Granted It's act 3. Will it be harder on act 5 at least?
That's not what people complain about, it's that it's slow and boring.
How's autolevel in WotR? After Kingmaker I can't be arsed to manually level up all companions
I went through normal with all the companions auto-leveled and it wasn't really an issue, your main character will probably do a lot of heavy lifting unless you're doing some kind of completely support build.
Don't do it above normal
How's grenadier? In Kingmaker you had a lot of good items but in WotR I feel like the whole mythic thing won't really synergize with that class
>Staggering Blast
>At 10th level, a grenadier's bombs become particularly overwhelming when they explode. Whenever a grenadier scores a successful critical hit with a bomb, the creature directly struck by that bomb is staggered for 1d4+1 rounds.
That's very valuable. It's worth 2 feats, and it comes at the cost of poison immunity.
>Precise Bombs
>When the alchemist throws a bomb, it doesn't affect allies.
Also valuable. Worth 1 Discovery feats. Come sat the cost of +2 poison resist
>Alchemical Weapon
>At 2nd level, a grenadier can infuse a weapon or piece of ammunition with a single harmful alchemical liquid or powder, such as alchemist’s fire or sneezing powder, as a move action. This action consumes the alchemical item, but transfers its effect to the weapon in question.
It's a free feat, comes at the cost of nothing. Potentially useful mutlticlass shenanigan.
>Directed Blast
>At 6th level, a grenadier can detonate a bomb so that it splashes in a 30-foot cone rather than affecting a radius. The cone starts at the alchemist and extends away from her in the direction she chooses. Each creature within the cone takes damage as if it had suffered a direct hit from the alchemist's bomb but succeeding at a Reflex save (DC = 10 + 1/2 the alchemist's level + the alchemist's Intelligence modifier) halves the damage.
Another free feat, comes at the cost of nothing.
It's a strong subclass, but there are probably some Adventure paths out there where the poison immunity is immensely valuable.
Only Lich has outright synergy with alchemists/grenadiers.
However, you get indirect support with other mythics, whether it is a further boost in ranged attack rolls when throwing bombs or debuffing enemy saves.
I guess with trickster, you could go for bomb critical build plus rushing to Use magic device 3 trick and get a full wizard spellbook
Force bombs are still pretty moronic.
If Descari can just randomly teleport in and nuke a major city why doesn't he just wipe Mendev off the face of the earth?
Mendev was occupied at the start of the game and later you reclaim sword of valor
The wardstones prevent demonic teleportation, but the one in Kenabras was weakened because the angels in it started fighting each other. One of your advisors notes after you take Drezen that the demon armies need their cultists, other mortal allies and undead for numbers which is why they have to march along the roads rather than teleporting everywhere.
I'm gonna make a duel wielding sword saint tomorrow , looking for weapon and mythic path recommendations
Magus wants to critical hit all the time.
Gravesinger Axe is unique crit focused axe.
Otherwise Scimitars, Falcatas, Rapiers, Estocs, Kukris are solid options.
Trickster Path is the critical hit path.
Lich, Azata and Golden Dragon Paths are good for gishes.
Use Weapon Focus Plus mod if you want more freedom to play around.
Use Merged Spellbook Mod if you want to play around with gish builds.
Does Canny Defence even work with dual wield?
>Magus wants to critical hit all the time.
Seems to work with 2/handed. Dont see why its different for dual wield
Hey, this is pretty powerful, isn't it?
Especially if you just pick 4 levels of Sword Saint for multiclassing.
You can add all of the wand damage you have, and they rarely run out.
At 4th level you also get Perfect Strike which increases your crit multiplier. This is normally a level 16 Ability, or a level 20 Ability.
Useful enough but would say its low priority. While Sword Saint has slightly reduced spell slots. Built and buffed properly the enemy is isn't going to live long enough to warrant the extra casting from the feat.
>built and buffed properly
You mean "dimensional blade + mythic vital strike" crit fishing
I think it will be useful so you can go further without resting.
Sure but I don't recommend you take it if the type of guy who keeps consumable items tucked away "just in case". I would put Accuracy Feats as higher priority. AC and saving throws in this game can get ridiculously high and additional castings won't help much if you can't even hit enemies
Also sword saints are kinda buff heavy to begin with. If you really need more buffs then spec out one of your party members for the job.
Honestly besides buffs. True Strike is the only real spell you want to regularly cast for a Magus. Get a quicken spell item and cast true strike before making a full attack.
That includes bosses. It isn't that uncommon for a properly built Sword Saint to one shot bosses.
That's not unusual, since in these games the only difference between a boss and a regular enemy is that one of them has a name and dialogue. Across all the games like this, honestly the only "real" boss fight is the Lantern King. Thaos Ix Arkannon sort of has proper boss fight qualities with his soul transference mechanic, but that's about it. For all these other bosses, for example there's functionally no difference between fighting Demogorgon in ToB and fighting Deskari.
Which of these abilities would you pick?
They all look incredibly strong, except for the one that halves the movement, the Rogue's Debilitating ability already does that even more often.
Best critical eff is stagger or sickening
That's the level 10 Duelist ability. It doesn't have what you're talking about.
I would say focus on actually landing your criticals first. So get the improved critical feat or keen weapon first. That being said Crippling Critical is one of the better on crit abilities. But if you are going for Sword Saint you are probably better off focusing on raw damage.
>That being said Crippling Critical is one of the better on crit abilities.
???
It has like 5 different effects, I'm asking which effect is the best.
Hard to go wrong with AC penalty or bleed damage. Enemy physical stats can get so high that Strength/Dex damage isn't going to do much if you can't do it consistently/
Do you have someone trying to land save or die spells like phantasmall killer or Icy prison etc? Take the save mallus.
If you kill them on melee, take the AC one.
>At 5th level, quarterstaff master can use his quarterstaff to make his first attack during a flurry of blows make a free trip attempt, which does not provoke attack of opportunity.
Dayum...
>At 4th level, in hands of a quarterstaff master all quarterstaves deal damage as if it was one size category larger.
>At 12th level, in hands of a quarterstaff master all quarterstaves deal damage as if it was 2 size category larger.
>At 20th level, in hands of a quarterstaff master all quarterstaves deal damage as if it was 3 size category larger.
Shiiiiieeeett.... Quarterstaff was the King weapon all along.
Does what monks do, only with a staff.
But you do get that free trip attempt, right?
It would work nicely with the Dragon Style.
Would have loved to be a Quarterstaff Sword Saint if there was a half-decent quarterstaff with a good crit range. Or any crit range at all for that matter.
So like how do thrown weapons work? I can ignore bows because my head canon is they just brought a lot of arrows in the case of a magus archer auto replenishing magic arrows but thrown weapons like a throwing axe, are they force pulling it back?
>throw axe
>it hits something
>does its damage
>vanishes
>appears back in your hand
>throw it again
Give me Valerie!
Please take her, as long as I don't have to deal with her bullshit. Just don't invite any farmers to the wedding.
W-Waifuscholar?
It is an honor Valeriegay, I have missed you.
Is battle oracle the best for a melee angel build?
Difficulty finding images for Pathfinder is that you need one big image out of which you make the smaller ones. You might find something good for medium sized but the full length will turn out odd looking and/or a blurry mess. Or the full length and medium will basically look the same.
>You might find something good for medium sized but the full length will turn out odd looking and/or a blurry mess
At this point it's not a problem. Something like waifu2x can enlarge you image with a very acceptable quality.
I had more problems with cool detailed portraits that look like shit when reduced.
>like shit when reduced
Yeah, that can happen, too. Like with this fella here. Even after adjusting things a bit it still looks odd.
You really shouldn't zoom out like this for the small portrait. Pay attention to what the small and medium portrait look like for your companions. It's almost a crop of just their face, sometimes even cutting off the chin and most of the hair.