>Develops more technology in a day than the Tau have in 6,000 years
When did you realize Cawl was the single worst thing about Warhammer 40k?
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>Develops more technology in a day than the Tau have in 6,000 years
when primaris marines were announced.
Battletech players have it right. If you dont like a part of lore, pick an era, and ignore the rest. Most battletech players dont acknowledge anything beyond the fed-com civil war
I dont acknowledge any of 40k at the introduction of primaris marines, and beyond, including any dumbass retcons
BattleTech players can do that though because the game itself supports players playing in different eras of the lore. 40k doesn't really encourage that, as all the rules and models are all based around the current era of the lore.
There's always old editions I guess. But every single edition has some baggage of some kind.
Also the warhammer community is insanely tourney focused and treats new editions like patches to a live service game.
See, I don't get this attitude. "Before Current Era", lol. Just declare the star-date of your battle, put the thematic work into your army, and carry on. Your rules are downstream of the miniatures but the work you put into it is upstream of rolling off for deployment.
All they had to do was say they were thunder warriors. It was so easy.
>This
I continued playing to see if they could make it work.
Then every single new model released proceeded to be "crawl built it"
It turned out to be a good thing though because it made me realise that if GW doesn't give a shit about their established setting than neither should I.
>Battletech players have it right. If you dont like a part of lore, pick an era, and ignore the rest. Most battletech players dont acknowledge anything beyond the fed-com civil war
What's funny is that for a long time, a lot of players refused to play Clan Invasion or later. It's interesting that the grogs advanced (though this was influenced by IRL events to be fair).
Rules to explicitly support multiple eras came several years after people had already been doing that.
Literally every criticism of Cawl's inventions I have seen have come from lorelets. Then people move the goalposts and start talking about tone, which then also seems to come from lorelets. It's more disappointing than enraging. But yeah, disingenuous OP.
>lorelets
>for not knowing shitty lore introduced after the setting became unsalvageable
And you speak of moving goal posts.
>for not knowing shitty lore
>introduced after the setting became unsalvageable
>introduced after
Here's another example of them being disingenuous. You people are just salty things changed. And now that there's something justifiable to be mad about, you have lost legitimacy because of your blatant, stubborn ignorance. Genuinely stupid people.
>Hey anon, I genuinely dislike something.
>No you don't. You are blatantly ignorant you stupid idiot.
I knew 40k attracted autistic people, but I thought they were at least high functioning ones.
I don't care that you don't like something, but to say you dislike something for a reason and have that reason disproven only to then still hold that position, that failing is on you. Just own it. You don't like change, so take that position. I don't expect people to know the settings I enjoy as well as me, but don't bullshit me and then lie to me because you're incapable of being succinct and coherent. There's exists plausible outs for all those things he's done. As for the tone, the setting is the darkest it's ever been. The only reason you think this is not the case is because most people don't read the books.
You are correct Anon. Thank you for facts and logicing me
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Your mistake is convincing yourself that it was ever "lore" with integrity to begin with when it was always an ever-evolving fluff intended solely to sell more models.
Have fun with the new Extremis Marines® set to release in 5 years.
Imagine giving a shit about NuHammer.
I really, really don't like how, aside from the constant Cawl wank, it's how they show off how smart he is by diminishing other factions. Why is he able to reverse-engineer the Pharos device? Why should he know where all the blackstone is? Why should he know how to jailbreak scarabs and modify engrams, one of the single most advanced pieces of tech in the entire fricking setting?
Because he's the best at what he does dude
>Because he's a mary sue
All MC's are mary sue's anon, especially in 40k
I choose to believe that Cawl is basically Edison. He's got some developments under his belt but the majority of his work is actually a factory of underlings he takes credit for, and because this is 40k that factory is an entire planet of Mechanicum and anyone who tries to complain mysteriously falls out of a 3km high window onto two plasma shots to the back of the head.
From memory this is sort of the case with the Lathe Worlds in Dark Heresy, the Magos in charge of each Lathe world gets the credit for whatever their FW does and there's as much internal politics in the AdMech as in the Administratum
There's obviously a degree of "Green Ranger beats up the team" here, but I like to think of him as being the AdMech's Bobby G; this is what the organisation COULD achieve if it stopped all the dicking around (albeit justified in a universe where computers can literally be demonically possessed). I will admit I was always partial to Andy Chambers' rationale as to why they introduced the "older mark" weapons on Chaos Terminators ("the imperium can innovate and develop, it just does so at the speed of a lame tortoise") so I'm biased here.
There's probably also a degree of
too of course.
If we use shit like making 7 variations of the same tank and putting a different weapon on each and calling it a invention one then Tau have outinvented Cawl by a factor of nearly a million
That's space marines. And Tau still have better r&d than the imperium. And Cawls new brand of super soldiers are still not winning the imperium their wars.
But who fricking cares? Leagues of Votann beat them both out.
but it took him 10000 years?
What's with this /tg/ trend of phrasing your opinions as dumb questions? Desperately fishing for (you)s by trying to rile people up?
Correct
40k fans are a lot like abused spouses, and much like them they have a pathological need of trauma dumping followed by defending their abuser to the same 3rd party.
However, unlike abused spouses, a lot of them don't have people in real life to do this to. So instead, we get 30% of /tg/ being the gaming equivalent of "I could never leave him, the good times are still good, and what if there's no one else out there that will ever love me like he does?"
I love how 40k fans don’t do anything but exclusively b***h and whine like cucks about a setting they haven’t liked in nearly two decades this shit is so pathetic and gross. Never ever to talk about things you like you fricks just use this board as a therapist
The tau are still not canon to me.
>the lore matters
No, it's a kind of toy soldier board game. This has been neglected for too long at the expense of varying agendas from both sides.