Honestly sad as frick to see this game get so much hate nowadays when it was still universally beloved a few years ago
Devil May Cry 5
Honestly sad as frick to see this game get so much hate nowadays when it was still universally beloved a few years ago
Discordschizos and a handful of schizos in general became unhinged and mindbroken after seeing the huge outpour of love, all the amazing threads and OC that DMC got when 5 happened so they started a mass hate campaign on the game, which extended further to Itsuno which is why you see the massive amount of copy pasta bait OP Dragon's Dogma 2 threads.
Not exactly.
Did you know that there are special interest groups and governments that post misleading, divisive or inflammatory content on Ganker in an attempt to dilute, destroy and disperse active board users off of this site?
It's true. Ganker is one of these channels where groups spam their content. These groups often operate out of Discord servers but are run by feds and other special ops agents.
We loved it before we had it, but it's hard not to be disappointed after playing it. Now that the honeymoon period is over and DmC is no longer haunting us, we can talk about how mid it really was.
>he's just standing there... menacingly, waiting to be juggled
try playing on normal
Juggle these nuts in your mouth homie, way to completely omit the 2nd and 3rd phases where he devil triggers and is almost completely immune to staggers. The real crime is how lax the rg timing is in this game.
glad you asked, bozo
>Uses a range of different game mechanics to deal with the relentless onslaught of varied attacks
>No juggling anywhere to be found
Nice going moron, I accept your concession.
>IS THAT GAMEPLAY? AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HELP ME Black person MAN I'M GOING INSANE!!!
are you from the same discord that spams threads shitting on ER and DD2?
people can shit on games that are shit without depending on your discord theory shizo
???
hey it's the same moron who spams boomer pics in doom threads
Nah I believe it's Tameem who's malding over the game success
>homosexual falls down to B rank
Boring.
>universally beloved by the bozo community
its just a dedicated schizo that likes to shit on this game 24/7
Welcome to Ganker. Nobody hates this game outside of this board. If you take Ganker posts seriously then I feel bad for you.
twitter hates it.
I don't use Twitter but the opinion of a Twitter user is more worthless than a Gankerirgins take.
What do you expect from a game that attracts literal furries and transgender freaks
Anon, DMC is not the game you and your discord likes it.
Dude it's not just DMC. There isn't a single game that's actually able to be discussed on this unusable, zoomer ridden, discord raid board anymore
No matter what you post there is always some schizo to come and cry about trannies or something unrelated, and attribute that to why the games shit
I'm coming here less and less, guess that's at least one good thing thats come out of it. Although I think a lot of others are following suit so now it's just schizos on top of schizos talking about politics and gay shit, seems worse every time I come back
Mysteriously, the dozens of gacha "game" threads that plague this board are almost free from such behavior.
That's because no one pretends those are anything but garbage, anon. Not even the ones who play them.
Why would they make V into his own playstyle only to kill him off?
Now how do you bring it back? Who else is going to fill the summoner void?
>Now how do you bring it back? Who else is going to fill the summoner void?
Patty Lowell
>pol-gays ruining the board
wow really?
They're worse than polgays. They are literal discords and protoimageboards made to raid Ganker, see
That's pathetic
they shouldn’t’ve added Chris angel he made the shit gay
It's what happens when you're the best of the best.
You have people hating on the game because it doesn't meet their own nonsense demands.
Now it's bad that the game has different maps for each mission because it has to have completely superfluous exploration.
Now it's bad that you can't play all missions with all characters despite the fact there's little else to them but the characters and how shit the DMC4 campaign was due to it.
Now it's bad that the game doesn't let you play with your friends even though it's obviously a single player game through and through.
Now it's bad that V isn't perfect when he's trying to break the mold and having weird weapons and mechanics has always been a big part of the franchise.
Now it's bad that you can't play as Lady or Trish even though they were extremely basic whenever they showed up.
Now it's bad that the physics and cancels aren't the exact same as in DMC4 even though there's a plethora of new options to play with and no sequel will ever be the same as its predecessor.
Now it's bad that they brought Vergil back even though everyone wanted him back and his character actually got to develop instead of being a footnote in Dante's story.
Now it's bad the games has a varied roster of enemies with tons of ways to fight them because even the weakest one should play like a 3D fighting game with a gun.
Now it's bad that the game doesn't look like Final Fantasy when the series has always had horror undertones visually and been in the urban fantasy genre.
Now it's bad that you can't select your difficulty at the start of the game when the whole point of the difficulties in these games is that they let you gradually get better and incorporate more and more mechanics as you go.
Eh my only complaint was V, the dude was just boring as shit to play through. Rest of the game was great
>Now it's bad that you can't play as Lady or Trish
DMC4SE brought me back in with this addition. But yeah, don't thik you can go much further than DMC5SE.
>reddit spacing all the way down
did you rip this from there wholesale?
The only thing I ripped was your mom's ass.
>Now it's bad that the game doesn't look like Final Fantasy when the series has always had horror undertones visually and been in the urban fantasy genre.
Fricking this, hate that shit in dmc4
I have never played it but I will once it goes below €9.
I hate the character designs, they look like gays and smallhats. Jesus, look at the image you posted.
I already know they writing is awful too.
have a nice day
Nah I don't htink I will.
>I hate the character designs, they look like gays and smallhats
You're a fricking homosexual but how the frick they look like israelites you moron
As I said, look at the image posted. The guy on the left is a literal israelite, big nose and all. Also look at his limbs, he looks like a twink Adam Driver.
Disgusting. You people have no standards.
>it was still universally beloved
Still is, a couple discord schizos on 4chsn won't change that, ever.
>gets so much hate nowadays
what?
What? The only hate I see is that one guy who shills Ninja Gaiden (which is a good series too, but that's beside the point).
I dunno about hate nowadays but I didn't like it that much on release
V was a mistake, maybe in a game with just 2 characters he'd be fine but I wanted to be done with him everytime I had to play him (and it hurts especially since the number of missions was about 20 again, without counting some missions that can be played by several characters)
Faust was a mistake, I'm sure everyone knows this by now
Level design was painfully boring or bad, and that's with DMC 3 being full of grey rooms and DMC4 having a literal backtrack through entire game
Writing was bleh sometimes but it's not like anyone cares that much about plot in DMC
DMC V is not DMC2 or DmC tier of bad but it's not DMC1 or DMC3 either
DMC is good until you grow up and have lower tolerance for stupid as frick story and edgy, overly long cutscenes.
Timmy you're not grown up because you turned 16
you are in the midwit zone, then you grow up more and stop overthinking and just say "cool"
>overly long cutscenes
Never heard someone complain about this, funny how you claim to be grown up yet display ADD zoomer tendencies
Buddy, it's a video game. You play it. That should be your main source of enjoyment for judging it. If the tone and story is all it takes for you to denounce a game you used to like, then something tells me you never played a single DMC in your life.
and even then the DMC story is pure kino
>so much hate
It's literally only a couple Ganker contrarians who unironically praise DMC2, DMC Devil May Cry and Dark Souls 2 on the same breath. They should be ignored.
The biggest complaint I see on Ganker is that the story sucks. Everything else seems fine. I haven't played it yet, but I'll get it on the next big sale. It's going really cheap these days.
The story is actually quite great and is just too smart and sophisticated for the average DMCgay so the vast majority of all the kino parallels, symbolism, thematic conclusions, character arcs etc. goes over the heads of 95% of people who played the game. Sad really, it's really a love letter to people who paid attention to character arcs, themes and imagery throughout the entire series, resulting in a game that acts as a climax to the series up to this point, but the 'fans' convinced themselves that the seriest was just brainless silly fun where the story never mattered so all the pure kino is lost on them.
To be fair it's kind of ridiculous to expect a casual player to get every reference the game makes. I mean it references basically all kinds of material, you're missing a ton of stuff not only if you don't look at the other games but art books as well.
You have multiple eras of concepts being layered on top of each other. Then you also have external references, like how there's a reference to how Dante and Virgil get out of Hell in Mission 12 or how Artemis' stage is based on Bruegel's painting of the Tower of Babel (i.e. the inspiration of Temen-Ni-Gru). Even in the cutscenes you have callbacks to references of callbacks.
The game is just very artistically dense.
>how Dante and Virgil get out of Hell in Mission 12
? What?
In the Divine Comedy Dante and Virgil climb out of the Inferno by following back a river that flows down into it (pic).
In Mission 12, after you enter the tunnel, there's a series of "steps" you have to jump through with a small current of water flowing down them. The water itself is actually rain water, and it leads you back to the house (note that the house in DmC is actually named Paradise). The rain part is also interesting because despite the fact there are signs of rain all around the game (Mission 2 has plenty of puddles and Mission 7 has that and lots of subway signs telling people to be careful of slippery floors), this is the only place where it's actually raining. Note also DMC3's ending and the whole "it's only the rain" excuse Dante gives.
To add to the stuff with the house, in DmC it's used both to break Dante out of brainwashing, and as the finishing point in the DLC. The graveyard in Mission 9 is actually based on the Vergil DLC. In DMC5 the house is actually shown from the start (the Prologue) as being the place where the Qliphoth is growing out of. It's shown again at the end of Mission 7 when V starts recalling what happened to him. Of course it's also shown when Vergil splits himself and when Dante absorbs Sparda, and in Urizen's final fight. Urizen's design (and Cerberus'/King Cerberus') is a reference to Satan's depiction in the Divine Comedy as a giant encased in ice with three faces (vis a vis Devil Man which extrapolated on this as all demons being encased in ice and being freed for the turn of the millennium, which DMC1 also references; this same depiction of Satan also inspired Go Nagai's previous Maoh Dante).
DMC5's story is great when you count the Visions of V manga. So much shit in there should have been in the game.
>fighting dante is the best
k-kino....
Okay maybe not everything about it was great. But getting to see flashbacks and introspections from Vergil's perspective was great.
>Gets so much hate
By literally who? A few schizos in Ganker?
A few schizos here is a lot of hate.
When those few schizos spam the board and same-gay as multiple different people it becomes a lot more obvious than you think
When are we getting Resident evil X Devil may cry?
With Sparta being revealed to be one of Umbrellas founders
I would like SOME sort of version of that RE story to be told, it seemed cool as hell.
Can Dragons dogma hurry up and release already, I need DMC6
>Can Dragons dogma hurry up and release already
You can't rush perfection my friend
tbs, The fact there wasn't a b-team making a Nero spinoff is still moronic.
What does Nero’s armpit smells like?
Whatever deodorant that Kyrie buys for Nero
Post a more likeable and genuine game director https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGFfyHj3as8
You literally can't
I still won't forgive him until he removes that stinky DRM
It's not up to Itsuno, he just makes game
True. Probably the suits fricking things up again. Many such cases
Not his call.
No guarantee Itsuno will even work on DMC6.
I feel the story just needed a little more after Vergil's return. Felt like they could have done more with the Sparda estate memory too even if it was a cutscene opposed to gameplay. Something like V recollecting a family dinner while Nero is carrying him. That said, yes, the story in 5 is great and I've never understood the hate it gets.
>blind fanboys and morons with buyers remorse love a game from their overlords
>once the shilling ends the game isn't that beloved anymore
really makes you think uh
so you are from the same discord
i dont use discord troony
Why would anyone believe you
why would anyone believe you aren't a shill?
Because DMC is a good game
>forced to watch doors unlocking cutscenes
>forced to play with shit characters
>forced to lose some battles
at least try to not be a fricking blind fanboy
>forced to lose some battles
Skill issue.
to lose some battles
Get good, Black.
>implying you can win the first fight
hello newbie shill, you can post from outside threads
>enter DMC thread
>full of people who like DMC
>start spazzing out how DMC bad
>people say DMC isnt bad
>SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL
Ganker is so fricking dead lmao
>smartest Gankertard be like "I'm going to spend my time in the 'x game' thread, a game I hate, so I can wallow in hate, misery and self-pity"
name a more kino combination
>enter
still wrong shizo
yeah you entered the thread, wojak spamming newbie
Stop feeding these people, don't engage and let them stew by themselves
you know you Black folk can change the board theme right?
>tomorrow
I like Yotsuba B 🙂
I think Yotsuba B, Burichan and Photon SUCK!
you can win the first fight
You can, you're just bad
DMC is a good game, no idea why you would enter a thread about a game you dont like though
>talking about a game you like means you're a shill
Okay what does that make you, a literal moron who willingly surrounds himself with stuff he doesn't like?
Go back to snickering in your troony discord with your other fat loser buddies who get off on this weird shit
Because a shill is someone who gets paid to push and talk about a game. It's literally a job. Talking about a game you like does not make you a shill, you fricking moron. You and the rest of this board need to learn english.
Is 5 the most fun if I kinda just wanna frick around with most enemy variety? I found a trainer that lets you spawn enemies and make it so they don't die which seems fun to me
Probably. 5 is the most approachable, but 3 and 4 too if you prefer the way either of those games work over 5. It's a toss-up really.
I'd probably say 3 or 5 since most of 4's enemy roster are pretty mediocre outside of like 2 really great ones
>wanks off in a room mashing combos
>no one ever replays DMC to see how fast they can get through the campaigns
brain damaged
I did try 4 before but I really didn't like how Nero (was it? dude you start with) had the hand gimmick. It felt kinda one dimensional compared to Dante who could switch styles a lot
I'll probably go 5
the what? Can it summon every enemy, including bosses? And then make it so they don't take damage or at least keep spawning more as I kill
I'm doing the campaign and stuff obviously but like, sometimes it's fun to frick around with enemies with no stress, you know?
>the what?
The training room. It's called the void.
>Can it summon every enemy, including bosses?
Not bosses, but you can fight against most bosses on their own as much as you want in BP with the warm up function.
>And then make it so they don't take damage or at least keep spawning more as I kill
You can turn their health off and turn their AI off and on. You can only summon one of each at a time but again, any encounter in BP can be replayed freely with warm up.
You should play all the games in release order before you play 5
>2 really great ones
Scudo Angelo and?
Alto and Blanco angelo
>I found a trainer that lets you spawn enemies and make it so they don't die which seems fun to me
Bro you can do that in the training room.
3 has pretty iffy enemy variety too.
Wait what? When did this game start getting hate
It's
A:OP schitzoprenia
B:He wanted to post Pic of DMC:DMC, or 2 or 4 don't really know which is the most disliked one
???
It's gotten consistent hate threads for years at this point
I've seen threads of people talking about the game and enjoying it. I honestly haven't seen many hate thread and when I did it was shitting on the games level design which is fair
I really hope Itsuno doesn't retire after Dragon's Dogma 2
This game is really good and it deserves praise for sure but its not as good as people make it out to be, its a little soulless compared to dmc3 and 1, the story is really not that good, combat's nice but Vergil & Nero could use a lot more, I mean Vergil technically had nothing new except his SDT finishers & doppelganger, V is awkward, Dantes fine. Most level design is repetitive, the themes are bangers, enemies are boring except fury, Urizen was cool... yeah, thats it really
so DMC 5 is considered better than DMC 4? Both being the SE editions?
Because 4 SE has two extra characters over 5 SE so I'm just wondering what would be more fun overall
Strangely enough, I thought Vergil was the weakest addition to DMC4SE, but maybe that was because Lady was so broken.
Press and hold square to win.
Elite action twitter circles have been shitting on DMC 5 pretty hard lately, a lot of people who play DMC and other action games at high level agree 5 is basically the worst
>Elite
>action
>twitter
>circles
>from the creators of "high level combo artists"
For me it's spectacle fighters.
Not J-action? You bloody...
>pic
lost
>story
DMC 3 > DMC 4 > DMC 5 > DMC 1 > DMC 2
>gameplay
DMC 5 > DMC 3 > DMC 4 > DMC 1
Nah 3 has better gameplay. Gameplay doesn't just mean combat mechanics, it's not a PvP game, mechanics alone aren't enough. Enemies in 5 suck ass, 3 is much more fun.
>3 is much more fun
>3 is much more fun.
3 has ass enemies and almost 2/4's the bosses were shit anon what are you smoking
At least it had actual levels to go through instead of black goo of Japanese creativity and London
So true sis going through temenigru levels was pure kino, wish the entire game were made of it... Dont even need any enemies to fight
>N-no! An entire 34 seconds?!?!? Why would they tastefully show the player how the entire map transformed to refresh the layout?
Nice try
People say this and that's how I know they were 11 when they played it
>Nah 3 has better gameplay
>buy airhike for almost every weapon goy
nah
>campaign
1 > DmC > 3 > 2 > 4 > 5
>DmC
DmC had ok combat but it definitely hadn't a good story
Street levels was the best part of dmc 5
>no PoC after 1
Poser
It's campaign is too long
>twitter screencap
>2 likes
the absolute state
The quoted tweet has 20, whats your cope now?
For me it's simple, the last one is always the better one.
it was never universally loved it was just loved by starved dmcfans who had nothing but this and donte for the last decade
Does 5ldk have different enemy placements or is it just dh/sos but every enemy multiplied? I'm playing 4LDK right now and I noticed new enemy placements different from those on any other difficulty, like big scarecrows in mission 2 fountain fight.
I think its just multiplied.
Where's it getting hate from? Ganker? Or some place with people that have actually played games?
holy frick did dmc5 really come out in 2019? its 5 years old now and it stil feels like a next gen game.
>its 5 years old now and it stil feels like a next gen game.
Because it was made with love
>5 years
>same amount of time as between reboot release and dmc5 e3 2018 announcement
What the frick
How would you react if DMC6 doesn't have a playable Dante on the base game(both him and Vergil turn into special edition material)? Is it time for Nero to have kids and increase the playable family?
I'd be fine with it, Nero is ready to be the MC of a DMC game imo
It would be cool if it was Nero doing devil hunting stuff in a Yakuza-resque open world on the DMC van
>I'd be fine with it, Nero is ready to be the MC of a DMC game imo
he already was once before after all
Still shared it with Dante
>DMC6 doesn't have a playable Dante on the base game(both him and Vergil turn into special edition material)?
I am a filthy nerogay so I wouldn't mind Spardabros being SE guests but in that case Nero needs to be expanded to carry the whole game on his own.
I'd love a Nero solo game but realistically, Dante/Vergil/Nero is just the safest and best choice for 6. Unless Capcom somehow greenlight a bunch of DMC projects, 6 will be all we will get for about another decade. The torch has been passed to Nero but 6 can still have Dante and Vergil and even give them a definitive ending if they so wish. Dante can retire and actually enjoy life for a change while Vergil becomes the king of hell to keep demons in check.
No way lol, DMC without Dante is like hand without fingers, DMC6 would flop so hard without Dante and Vergil in it and it wouldnt even be close. Nero is a good character but he cannot carry a game alone, and in a way, his arc's practically finished assuming Vergil doesnt try at fathering
>his arc's practically finished
Everyone's is. I can't even think of what they could do for a DMC6 other than bringing back Mundus or something.
Would be fun if Mundus thinks Nero is Dante's son because of what Dante said in DMC 1
Triple jackpot to kill Mundus once and for all too
>Dante and Vergil stood up, wielding Ebony and Ivory respectively, aimed gangster style
>Nero crouched aiming Blue Rose properly
>All three saying jackpot in unison
>All three guns together unleash a ridiculously powerful shot that rips Mundus in half
SSS kino.
Based breaker enjoyer. I don't want them to change it and it also plays into the gambling motif of Nero's moves.
Okay you fricked it, now if DMC6 doesnt have that im getting mad. Its so perfect I cant see it not happening
and Vergil stood up, wielding Ebony and Ivory respectively, aimed gangster style
>>Nero crouched aiming Blue Rose properly
>>All three saying jackpot in unison
>>All three guns together unleash a ridiculously powerful shot that rips Mundus in half
This is EXACTLY how i imagined it too
>DMC6
>another demon invasion occurs
>only this time, Dante and Nero both are completely missing
>some research institute builds a robot trained on data they acquired from footage of Dante or Nero fighting
Just have the player character be said robot. Now you get a new character with room for new abilities and old ones without completely replacing the original cast.
Nero should have gotten the ability to switch Breakers on the fly once you beat the game like how Dante gets Irregular Full Custom. That way you still have the resource management in your first playthrough but then the option is there if you want to go crazy.
>Nero should have gotten the ability to switch Breakers on the fly once you beat the game like how Dante gets Irregular Full Custom
He should have gotten the Devil Bringer back and with all the Devil Breaker abilities in it, just changing the dragon arm color or something
>He should have gotten the Devil Bringer back and with all the Devil Breaker abilities in it, just changing the dragon arm color or something
Hear me out: customisable devil bringer like amulets from dmc 2.
That would be nice, cool way for Nero to get boss rewards like Dante too
>just changing the dragon arm color
>dmc 4 charge shot: each level of charge has different color
>dmc 5 charge shot: just intensity of blue arm glow
Triggers my autism.
The resource management is the gameplay, Anon. The Breakers are specialized and offer minimal options. Having them be limited resources allows them to be as good as they can be at what they do. If you had Breaker switching a lot of encounters would be reduced to "switch to Breaker X" because some of them hard counter certain enemy types. You would never use Break Age or Break Away and losing any of those Breakers would be a massive loss as you'd no longer have that option. Imagine having Ragtime, breaking it and then having to fight a Fury without it. It would be ragequit material.
The way they are, Breakers are powerful but they're never required because Nero's designed to have all he really needs in his basic toolkit. He gets an extra mechanic that allows him to do some OP shit by playing well and playing risky which is exactly what you want out of a game like this.
Nta
I still can't decide how could devs balance DB on higher difficulties. Sure you have them less on SoS but nothing on dmd except deluxe shit.
Turn breakers into cd thing? Make more statues/phone booths for restock?
lefties are so fricking moronic and mentally ill
DMC3 is probably the most overrated action game of all time.
It has some of the worst enemies in the entire genre, and some of the worst bosses as well (I have no idea what they were thinking when they were designing Arkham or Gigapede).
The level design is just shit, the "puzzles" are so pointless that I have no idea why they're even there, the game is so terribly poorly balanced on DMD that I'm legitimately convinced that they did not play test it.
I suppose most people don't care about any of this, though. They just play the game on normal once and spew moronic "cuhrayzee" or "motivated" memes forever.
At least DMC5 fixed most of these issues, which is why DMC5 is a great action game, while 3 isn't.
>The level design is just shit
DMC3 at least has level design. You can't even call it that in 5. It's just open rooms to fight in connected by hallways with an occasional blue/purple orb fragment 5 feet off to the side.
Every action game should be like that. I want to kill stuff. I want to play Devil May Cry. I don't want to play Banjo Kazooie or Crash Bandicoot. DMC5 has the best level design in the genre after NG2.
>NG2
Shame that vanila 2 does not have chapter challenge. Unironically CC is the reason why I replay 3RE the most kek
Qliphoth tree... Home...
For NG2 I just tend to replay the first 8 missions and then start another NG+ playthrough, the levels get shit after Moscow anyway (with the exception of chapter 11)
>pic
Unironically I like the look of demon realm(?) missions in ng2 and I wish there were more of them instead of grey NY, Moscow or south africa (even though the game clearly runs out if steam at that point)
>chapter 11
Made me appreciate tonfas. Ryu becoming a walking human meatgrinder is just UNF.
I think new york looks good until you step into the underground parts. Moscow is pretty mediocre but the church area is imo cool enough and the last part in clock tower is amazing, stupid IS Black folk falling down and getting grinded by the gears is never not funny to me.
Tonfas are crazy, they even melt the big mechas kek
>clock tower
Now I want to see a similar stage but with 3re movement and controls.
No, DMC3 is rated perfectly.
DMC3 is an outstanding example of how good dev planning is paramount to the player enjoying the game. Yes, the game has many weaknesses and it's not nearly as complicated or perfect as people make it out to be. But that doesn't matter because the way it's laid out to you as you play it doesn't make you deal with any of those issues enough that it ever ruins how good it is.
Compare that to Bayonetta 1 dropping an instadeath QTE at the end of its first boss fight which will kill you instantly or having a whole shmup section every time you want to do the final Jeanne fight. Most action games are just horrendously sloppy when it comes to actual structure. But it doesn't matter how good you think your game is underneath all the bullshit, if it's going to throw unfun shit at any moments notice and you'll have to put up with it every time.
I can boot up DMC3 right now on Very Hard and play the whole campaign and have a blast except for the Arkham shit. I can also just play the first two missions or fight Vergil 3 or pick any mission whose boss I want to fight. There are many action games where that's just not possible and I'll have to do God knows what before fighting a boss because the devs couldn't trust their own gameplay enough to just leave me with it.
Social media is about b***hing these days. It’s better to ignore it
>universally beloved a few years ago
It was, but I didn't like it. I liked DMC3 and 4's resident evil style of exploration, almost like 3D metroidvanias. 5 was shit because you walk in a straight line, get into fights, then walk in a hallway again. the level design was atrocious and more fitting of a budget game, also the entire 2nd half of the game takes place in samey looking purple tree environments.
sorry lads but outside of the improved combat, DMC5 was not a good DMC game. I'd argue that DmC was better, and that hurts me to say.
>4's resident evil style of exploration
Black person when did you play 4 last time?
>sorry lads but outside of the improved combat, DMC5 was not a good DMC game. I'd argue that DmC was better, and that hurts me to say.
>straight line corridors from 10 year old game good
>straight line corridors from 5 year old game good
Really makes you think.
4 has the exact same exploration style that 3 had, the frick are you on about? DmC at least wasn't straight lines into fights, DmC fricking sucked for sure but don't pretend it didn't have better level design than 5.
the only puzzle and bit of backtracking in 5 was that one level where you fill the fountain with blood. I liked that stage. Anyways, I said sorry. It's not an opinion I like to have, I wanted DMC5 to be the best game ever.
>DmC at least wasn't straight lines into fights,
(:
>4 has the exact same exploration style that 3 had
Funny, I don't remember DMC3 having "hit the thing" gimmicks on every mission.
But in any case neither of them had really functional exploration. They're beat 'em ups, not adventure games. DMC5 just streamlined things but the way they play is basically the same.
>not adventure games
>i'm just going to ignore a fundamental gameplay aspect of DMC 1, 2, 3 and 4
I hate this fricking argument. Did you even play a DMC game before 5? They were much more than combat simulations, sure, the platforming was a bit janky and exploration didn't really amount to much more than finding an item to unlock a door, but it was cool. If I want a character action game relying purely on combat mechanics with ZERO level design, I'd replay Mitsurugi Kamui Hikae again.
What gameplay, moron? Walking one way, grabbing a JPG, then walking the other way only to have your way stopped by a red wall until you kill enemies isn't exploration.
It's not Zelda. There were no real puzzles, DMC has always been a game you play because you like the style and you want to feel like you're an action movie hero blowing shit up. You want me to bring footage of Shinji Mikami saying as much before DMC1 was even released? Because I can.
I don't give a frick about what Mikami said, and yes, finding the jpegs to unlock a new area and slowly unraveling the tower was a huge part of why DMC3 was good. I already said it's just my opinion, and possibly not even a good one. That's fine, but I just want you to know that people like you and your tastes ruined DMC5 for a long time fan like me, and I have no faith in DMC6 being anything more than 5 with a fresh coat of paint and expanded moveset.
>running in straight line finding jpegs 🙂
>running in straight line with no jpegs 🙁
lol lmao even
>I don't care what the person who actually gave the okay to make the game thinks the value in it was
>No *I* the supposed long time believe this vestigial feature that became less and less prominent with each entry is a main reason why I play the game
Mongoloids like you are even worse than twitter combo trannies.
No you don't have an opinion, kid. You're fricking wrong.
>You're fricking wrong
Nope. You're just a cancerous homosexual that didn't play the original games before the HD rereleases, likely after 5 came out.
I played DMC3 and DMC1 back in 2005, kiddo.
Finding keys never mattered to me.
No you didn't, stop lying. If you did you'd appreciate the exploration more rather than treating DMC like a sandbag combo simulator.
>u-ur lying >:(
Whatever makes your butt feel safer, buddy.
My anus is clenched, you could never get in.
What is more funny is that most missions in 4 is just running from one arena to another. Only castle and jungle missions can be counted as "exploration"
I don't count Dante missions because they are literally the same minus annoying gimmick.
Also replaying 4 made me realise how much time do you spend in the same fricking areas, that's not even funny. Like the castle missions I mentioned earlier: >you enter castle in m3, proceed to get a key to power up gyroblades,
>m4 have you literally run back through same shit to unlock path to frog boss.
>m5 you just make your way back to the hall
>m6 starts in agnus basement and you are back in the same fricking hall you entered in mission 3
>Only castle and jungle missions can be counted as "exploration"
>only 80% of the game
kek, just fricking listen to yourself.
>fortuna city, order hq, hq backyard with savior, savior Dante fight, savior insides
>80% of the game
Where did you learn to count
then they shouldn't have made it look so pathetic and ugly.
very bad art direction with no style at all.
bait used to be believable
it's still universally beloved. Capcom in general has a small group of extremely loud schizo haters on this board (see the made up outrage about Enigma that was literally all lies, or the constant b***hing about "wokeness" even though they're the only big company still making high-profile horny games)
visit any thread for a recent Capcom game and you'll see the exact same types of deliberately misinformed doomposts written in the exact same manner, obviously made by that small group of people
they really think they can change public opinion and force Capcom into one of the bad guys. needless to say, they're just powerless weirdos
The game punishes me for not varying my moves enough but it's way too hard to cycle through all your moves effectively, so this ends up being unsatisfying and I feel like I need to treat it as a job and learn how to play it
Not fun
This is especially a problem with Dante BTW, Nero is way easier to keep the combo going because he only has one moveset
>This is especially a problem with Dante
Just use Balrog and King Cerberus they've got a shitton of moves.
Seriously you don't need to switch at all once you learn how to use Dante's weapons.
Black person I don't care if it is technically possible to keep style up with any of Dante's weapons, the game clearly intends for you to use all of them, that's why he has access to everything simultaneously, so I feel bad if I can't do it because of incompetence
Also frick V
>the game clearly intends for you to use all of them,
No lol
You can safely play having only 2 weapons and still get sss ranks
>the game clearly intends for you to use all of them
Anon...
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the only punishment is getting a lower style rank
if you want the game to praise you, then play better
skill issue
Skill issue lol
SAVIOR
BLOOD STAIN
HELLFIRE
SHADOW
When people refer to level design, they don't just mean muh exploration and puzzles. It affects combat too. Those ranged enemies that shoot lasers in DMC3 were put in rooms that had verticality and were on ledges higher up. Changing up room layouts also affects how you approach combat scenarios. DMC5 almost rarely utilizes this kind of design and enemies are always on the same level, grounded floor.
I would have liked some more variety with combat arenas too but generally, most people are going to prefer the flat and open arena compared to anything else. It just plays better and lets the game excel at what it does best.
The arenas in dmc 5 are often way too large anyway. And most of enemies lack the ability to teleport or quickly get to the hero.
You have a point but Enigmas are terrible examples of that. They constantly do shit like abuse the ability to shoot you off-camera and since you have much more limited movement options and none of them are designed to work with the levels getting to them and chasing after them feels like complete shit.
If you want more level design on stages you invariably need more way for characters to interact with them.
Yall remember when the campaign wasnt just a glorified bloody palace with cutscenes??
>heh this tutorial section will surely get em... le got eem
I know I'm not supposed to but I've been enjoying the new gacha. It is admittedly a different subgenre of game though so it also inspired me to revisit 5.
the pajeet ads i kept seeing turned me away from this game
Honestly? Fair. I also have noticed a lot of pajeets shilling this game and I'm confused by it, but whatever.
I heard even other Chinese gachas have more DMC-esque combat than this game.
I wouldn't go that far. It's toned down for sure, especially compared to the original version of the game, but there's a solid core. The trouble that hangs a lot of people up is that each character has a very limited moveset so if you just pick one character you like or just toss 3 random characters together, it's not going to be very fun. The empahsis is on swapping in and out though, to the point that every character has an attack they can only do by tagging in off the bench after being set up by your character that's tagging out so you have to think of your whole team as one character. It's not to the level of DMC, but it's above it's peers like Genshin or PGR
Cons:
>Qliphoth levels are visually bland
>Combat has become a bit too much of a juggle fest/enemies can't deal with most air combos
>V feels underbaked next to the other two
>Faust hat a busted pay to win weapon
>Some of Nero's Breakers are better than others
>lack of costumes, bonus modes, boss rush, etc
>has a lot of repeated enemies and bosses from other games
>story has some holes
Pros:
>visually fricking stunning while managing to run over 60FPS
>most of the repeat enemies, bosses and weapons are the definitive versions, improving on the base. None are worse.
>all of the new weapons and features are amazing
>the battle themes are fantastic, worthy of singing along to
>some of the fan service is DEEP and feels like a love letter to people who had been following the series as die hards
>early levels are visually beautiful
>lots of fantastic hype as frick moments in the story
The reason people "hate DMC now" is because the flaws are the only thing that are still compelling to talk about at this stage. Everyone* unanimously agrees on what's good about it, and the hype wore off naturally over time. At this point there needs to be an announcement for a new one or some meaty DLC or something.
*"Everyone" on Ganker is anyone who isn't a complete contrarian who will say the sky is red actually and go on and on because that's how they get attention. Don't feed the trolls.
>>has a lot of repeated enemies and bosses from other games
I will never understand why is this bad. Isn't that cool to fight refined enemies from previous games with new tools and shit?
It's a good game. Mostly. Nero and Dante's combat is fun.
Here are some negatives: I think V's entire gameplay should have been cut out. The story is terrible, Vergil's heel-turn to good guy makes no sense, Nero is more immature than in DMC4, the art style is more desaturated than anti-depression commercial, Lady and Trish are useless even after they recover, NO ONE discusses working together as a team (meaning they're either stupid, arrogant, or both, despite them working together in DMC4), the combat arenas and camera are awful, the world building is syzophrenic chaos, and a lot of other parts.
>despite them working together in DMC4
When did anyone work together in 4? I can only count Dante and Nero vs savior
Trish pretending to be Gloria doing her own stuff
Nero chases Dante alone
Dante eeeerrr, I dunno what the frick he does until Nero screws up in mission 11
That's what I'm talking about. Trish, Lady, and Dante actually used their brains to asses the situation before committing to violence. In DMC5, they just arrive, and then Lady and Trish off ahead (not knowing what they'll even encounter), leaving Dante behind, and they all get their cheeks clapped. Instead of calling on Nero to help, that consideration is just never visited.
V knows spoke to Nero and Dante before either of them set off for the tree, but just never suggested having them talk to each other. Instead of helping, V just leaves the tree to find Nero as if Dante fails then Nero will surely save the day.
It's contrivance done just to split them up because the devs couldn't be bothered to write explanations for any of this.
And then when Lady and Trish get back and recover, they just stay in the van the whole time and refuse to help.
>Trish, Lady, and Dante actually used their brains to asses the situation before committing to violence.
Did they? Trish fricks off taking Sparda with her, Dante just busts in and blasts Sanctus pointblank and Lady ????
I guess more info on that matter is in Deadly Fortune?
For me it's always been the opposite.
Redditors and discordkids love 5 and larp as DMC fans while the actual fans were disappointed by the lack of direction, lack of contrast, messy story full of plotholes, pay to win weapon and forced to play as 2 other non-dante characters for 2/3 of the main campaign.
But HEY, at least now you can post LE EPIC VERGIL CHAIR BOOMER MEME ON YOUR GROOMING DISCORD HAHA
Who the frick gives a shit about DMC's story
me
me
i started playing DMC 3 when i was like 6yo and wasnt good at the combat, but the story and Dante were so cool i kept replaying it over and over again
I do.
Yes. That is me.
How? DMC's characters are so one-note, I can't imagine giving a shit about the story as a whole.
Like the other anon, I'm playing since DMC3. It just grows with you and you keep wanting to see where these characters end up.
Team Ninja trannies and pajeets go on a furious shitposting rage whenever they see the games that they copied from doing well.
Everytime I replay DMC5 Nero's arm without anything looks too naked
Yeah, its quite disarming
CARLOS
This is getting out of hand
You could say its missing a hand.
How does it get hate it probably tied with DMC3 as the best. I prefer DMC1 because I’m more of an atmosphere kinda guy but DMC5 is easily the best with DMC3 in gameplay.
DMC6 when? I recently beat 5 and loved how they started a rivalry instead of killing each other.
Itsuno's interview with IGN today confirmed that most of the DMC moved over to DD2. Now that DD2 is basically finished, a lot of them may have started work on DMC6. A lot of the heavy lifting for 6 has already been done, a good deal of 5's development was engine based but that should be gone. Then again, they might be using the new RE Engine so who knows? 2026 is probably the earliest we'll see it and Itsuno might not even direct it.
after dd2
>Itsuno's interview with IGN today
Holy crap that's cool
link?
https://www.ign.com/articles/how-dragons-dogma-2-realizes-its-directors-vision-from-the-first-game
I love Itsuno so much, he even follows me on twitter or instagram i dont remember.
I wonder if DD2 will have some DMC 5 combat elements
I'm still mad we didn't get a RE Engine of Kyrie and her fat round ass by the way.
I'd put DmC in D and make E for 2