>perfect ambiance and atmosphere
>no moronic inflated damage numbers popping all over the screen
>no ADHD zoomer iframes and "press x to dodge" bullshit
>mana actually matters, no "resource generator vs resource spender" designed for a <80 IQ userbase
>peak comfy
It's been nearly 30 years, why are there literally no games like it?
>inb4 Diablo 2
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I should play it again, it's been a while.
I would actually replay it if it had wasd movement.
Mouse movement was ok 20 years ago but I can no longer tolerate that unwieldy shit.
DevilutionX adds controller support to it. It's pretty comfy.
>mana actually matters
lol. staff charges carry you through the mana drought levels, and then you will have enough cash to fill your inventory with mana pots and eventually full mana pots. potions giving a percent of life/mana is too strong
>>no moronic inflated damage numbers popping all over the screen
yeah there wouldn't be room for the hundreds of useless loot drops on the screen
That would just be white items after the first couple floors. There is no reason not to pick up every magical item.
I absolutely fricking love Diablo 1. Best atmosphere in the series, even if the gameplay in 2 is superior.
Obligatory:
The entire OST of this game is just so good and terrifying, or extremely sad in the case of Tristram
one thing i really, really adore about diablo 1 is the color design. the colors really pop out, everything has a kind of desaturated sombre look except when it doesn't, like a handful of glowy monsters and potions, makes it feel extra magical
Same, has a raw earthy dusty scheme but the items really pop
>It's been nearly 30 years, why are there literally no games like it?
Too many games where you grind for the sake of grinding, too many indie rogue-likes to stand out, HD ass and breasts isn't politically in, and Christianity has been mocked so thoroughly that sticking Satan on the cover is tame.
Belzebub mod is probably the best way to play it these days. Gives all classes some abilities. Especially important for the warrior since charge is nearly mandatory to fix chasing those damn succubi.
One thing that isn't well designed is the health system. Potions should restore health over time. They fixed that in Diablo 2.
>Belzebub mod
>best
>offers no argument
>just greentexts
so this is the power of being a brainlet
game desperately needed some class combat abilities for warrior and rogue, if only a running attack for warrior
the original PSO is better then any diablo game
Diablo 3 is the undisputed giga chad of action RPGs, and if you're still clinging to the nostalgia of Diablo 1 & 2, then you might as well be playing with your mom's Barbie dolls in your mom's basement.
Let's break it down for you diaper-wearing Diablo 1 & 2 fans. Diablo 3 is the epitome of KINO action RPGs, and here's why:
Epic Combat for Alpha Gamers: The combat in Diablo 3 is like a symphony of destruction. You're not just clicking on pixelated enemies; you're orchestrating a masterpiece of obliteration.
It's so intense that Diablo 1 & 2 gays wouldn't be able to handle the adrenaline rush without having a heart attack.
Real Money Auction House Drama: Remember the Real Money Auction House? Yeah, Diablo 3 was so groundbreaking that it even had its own stock market for loot. It's like Wall Street, but for gamers. Diablo 1 & 2 gays were probably still figuring out how to dupe items while we were raking in real cash.
Sick Classes for Sick Players: Crusader, Demon Hunter, Barbarian – these are not just classes; they're expressions of pure badassery. Meanwhile, Diablo 1 & 2 fans are probably still playing as the 'Sorcerer' or some other lame, outdated sh*t.
Always Online, Always Dominating: Diablo 3 embraced the future with always-online gameplay. No more single-player dungeons for you old-timers. Now, you can join forces with fellow chads worldwide and slay demons together.
Diablo 1 & 2 gays are probably still trying to figure out what TCP/IP means. So, it's time to put away your ancient relics, Diablo 1 & 2 gays. The future is Diablo 3, where the graphics are as sharp as our wit, the combat is as intense as our love lives, and the classes are as diverse as our social circles. Step into the light, nerds, and embrace the giga chad energy of Diablo 3!
I sincerely hope this is a copy pasta rather than brain damage.
what game is that bunny playing on his bunny laptop, Anon?
jump king
rabi-ribi
quake
I read the first line and knew the rest was moronic. Nice try on the bait tho
I know this is bait, since no one in their right mind would like D3 but I'll bite
>adrenaline rush
>game is so low IQ that if you die you respawn in the same place without any consequences and penalties whatsoever and can continue chugging your endless health potions and slapping boss who's not even healed
go change your diaper
Go play with your barbies
>mfw the swedish dub
All Blizzard games are for casual gambling addicts
Nah D1 is carried by atmosphere/art and cool premise.
cope addicts
Eh? Nothing to cope, I stopped playing Blizzard games after Vanilla WoW. Their games went into the direction you're talking about that I wanted no part of.
You are a worm.
That's post-WoW blizzard
>grinds for 50 hours to get the best weapon for farming a boss
It's the original lootbox, Blizzard have made nothing but skinner boxes for their entire existence
Anon, WoW was a casualized version of the MMOs of its time. You need to know what you're talking about first.
I'm not talking about WoW, I'm talking about Diablo
>I'm talking about Diablo
...not you're not, because you don't do that in Diablo.
You never played Diablo 1, have you? It doesn't play like later games in the series. It's a dungeon crawl, it's not a grinding for gear for gear game.
It's a dungeon crawl for all of 5 hours, then it's a grind like any other rpg. 5 hours bro. Just think. That's all. Only 5 hours of content and it's recycle town for all eternity. You want back in those 5 hours but too bad. Just because you can't get that bliss back doesn't make you all smart and the big brain sofisticated. just makes you just another one of the junkees ahahahahahah roflíng @ u rn
It's a dungeon crawl until the very end. Enemies don't respawn. You can't even use the same character again after beating it, unless you make it from the very beginning as an online multiplayer character.
Later games made the multiple difficulty parts after completing the game standard instead of just a multiplayer only-thing.
But I missed that you're just shitposting until the last part of your reply. You baited me I guess, but at least we cleared that up.
>Enemies don't respawn.
Make a new world. Enemies respawned.
>You can't even use the same character again after beating it
Diablo has Hell and Nightmare difficulties that pick up where you left off. Ready to face Diablo......again. You're finished pal. Don't respond anymore.
>Make a new world. Enemies respawned.
It doesn't work like that. You have to make a brand new character.
>multiple difficulty...
Not in the normal game. It's strictly multiplayer only.
Ok buddy. You're a liar but we can go at it until you decide to post a screenshot.
It's available on GOG, which makes it available on the seven seas.
Anyone who actually played the first game doesn't need a screen shot, they know you're trolling and never played.
It was in the age of dial up modems, multiplayer was not the normal way people played Diablo 1
I had to start a new world on single player because I hit a wall on Hell difficulty and just regrinded the floors. Just sudoku yourself.
Anon, it's literally on the seven seas. Download. Play it.
Your memory is trash. I literally replayed this game half a year ago because I love it.
No u.
*mic drops*
Were you poor? I beat it once single player then went online. I was like 10 or something.
I played it online after, but it was not the standard way people played it.
Dial up modems. You're blocking phone calls while you're playing multiplayer, in addition to being no way of avoiding cheaters other than a program (i forgot what it was called) that will scan anyone in the game and tell you whether anything is duped, or if the numbers were suspect.
you can play the harder difficulties with the hellfire expansion.
actually just finished a playthrough. It's a lot of fun but I did play sorcerer this time which I haven't before, shit is OP as frick. Dunno if I really care about beating nightmare/hell seems like it would just be more annoying than anything. The progression in general is kinda annoying, just reset sdirah over and over to get stronger books. not that I did it a lot but the fact that you pretty much have to to get stronger spells is annoying.
>you can play the harder difficulties with the hellfire expansion
I completely forgot about the Hellfire expansion. It was a Sierra produced thing instead of Blizzard, had a friend who had it but never got it myself.
Wasn't aware it added it to single-player, thanks for the heads up.
I forget if there was anything special you had to do, but I remember there actually was a way to restart the game with the same character. I know this because 8 year old me was a shitter who got stuck at the cave levels and couldn't progress without grinding more xp
you just make a new game with the same character. I know cause I did the same. I was annoyed as a kid cause I wanted to kill Leoric but his quest is RNG whether it spawns or not, as with pretty much all the other quests too.
Not unless you have Hellfire, and if you were playing Blizzard Only Diablo, then you have to do a workaround to play it as if it's a multiplayer game but then just play it as single-player.
Else, you can't just restart it with the same character.
>can't just restart it with the same character.
Can on the PS1 version too.
PS1 version came quite a bit later than the PC version, but that's true.
You could workaround and start it up as if it was a local multiplayer game, and do it that way. The character is treated as a multiplayer character and you have to select Multiplayer every time, but effectively play it like a single player game.
you dont have to do that, you can just click new game with the same character..
I tried playing the tchernobog mod both solo and with a friend, but its impossible to complete. the later bosses just restore health back to 100% all the time when fighting, and ruins an otherwise fantastic HD mod + more features
Does anyone know how to get past the lifestealing monsters? I've tried evading/hit and run tactics, it does not work
diablo 1 is the wolfenstein 3d of arpgs
diablo 2 is doom
Diablo 2 is way better, everything people like about the first game is represented there and is vastly improved.
I'm completely certain that muh atmosphere gays just have never tried the sequel solo, the moment you step out into the blood moor it's on, it's like a religious experience.
It's the perfect game to center yourself around for a good week or more, just popping in and tackling an objective. Soaking in the atmosphere, really. Diablo is a great game, but Diablo 2 is multiple times greater. We have absolutely moved beyond the slow meandering pace of the first game, down one dungeon that just changes dramatically every couple floors. We're exploring the entire world, we come across the town of tristram and we save our bro deckard cain. We've moved on from the first Diablo and progressed forward. However, we never moved beyond Diablo 2, it's where the series peaked.
I don't hate D2, far from it. But small scale of D1 is one of it's greatest charms and I find globetrotting in later games to be less appealing.
It's just you, Tristram, and what lies under the Cathedral. There is something individualistic (?) about it that I enjoy.
>individualistic
Maybe 'intimate' is a better word for this
I find the journey of Diablo 2 far more "personal" than the single dungeon delve in the first game. The story is actually that you're trailing the hero from the first game as he succumbs to the foe he had thought he had contained, it *feels* like the entire first game is in a box carried by the villain on the move (idk personal right?). I played a lot of Diablo 1 and grew tired of the pace, so for Diablo 2 to be exponentially better and to acknowledge the first game so well just feels great.
Diablo 3 is waaaaay way more personal because you don't ever have to leave the greater rift stone.
I thought I covered how that's not what made it personal. idc about staying put somewhere, I want to experience a journey.
I would wager both you and
actually really consider the depths of the dungeon beneath tristram when you romantize the experience of playing the game, but yet you both have seemed to just talk about one town one dungeon, as if it's compact and small right?
well the idea is that for me, I'm emphasizing the journey, and I feel like the entire first game is on the run and I'm in pursuit of it across the entire setting. It's a much more personal journey I believe.
>I want to experience a journey.
Oh so you just wanna watch cutscenes.
I do remember playing D2 for the first time, and that moment when you change Acts and suddenly you are plunged in the middle of a new, foreign town was always exciting.
I think it's mostly the quests and their structure that holds it back for me.
Idk, it feels too sprawling to me to feel 'personal'. Too many random locations, too many characters and too much sidetracking busywork in the story. "Uhhh we need to do X and for that we'll need to find Y but then also Z will be needed to fix Y" is how I remember D2 quests. D1 on the other hand is extremely focused.
Act I: You can run straight to Andariel and open Act II
Act II: You are locked out of Duriel by a staff, and that staff is in 2 pieces and needs a cube to combine them.
Act III: Literal wall blocks the path to Mephisto and can only be opened by collecting 4 pieces of a flail.
Act IV: Some angel Black person blocks your path until you smash the soulstone.
Act V: Half of the act is cordoned off behind a portal that some literal who opens for you as a reward. And half of that half is cordoned off being the summit gays.
Throne of Destruction was terrible. Just hearing the music that plays when you kill the first quest baddie pisses me off for how out of place it is. Charms should never have existed. All of the outdoors zones manage to be more bland than the Hell zones.
I agree on charms and runewords being way too broken to a detriment, but many people enjoy how much they can go super saiyan. That said it gets boring having to rush CtA/Enigma/Fortitude/etc every time you start a new league or do a fresh reinstall.
You're not wrong and I respect you're opinion.
I personally like D2 a tiny smidgen more.
>mana actually matters, no "resource generator vs resource spender" designed for a <80 IQ userbase
No, instead you have to carry around a large quantity of instantaneous mana potions. That's much better.
>play co-op on playstation with best friend
>shoot him with my bow because friendly fire was a thing
lol
When I was a kid I thought the stuff that happened in Diablo and Warcraft were historically true.
how old were you?
Like 7 or 8. Probably old enough to know better.
>Mommy, why don't we have a holiday for the day Lothar repelled the greenskins?
That's based. Did you think Starcraft was a prophecy of a future to come?
Playing it with added controller support is pretty comfy on devolution x. Wish 2 had something similar.
You can play 2 with controller nowadays.
crazy to me that they added full, very good, controller support to D2R but D3 doesn't have it yet (or ever will I guess)
This game is an actual horror game, while I love d2 it's pretty much a slot machine. My first time going online will always be seared into my brain tho, some dude hacking so he could kill you in town, teleports into me casts every spell in the game insta kills me and takes my stuff. I never trusted anyone ever again.
>launch game because of thread
>continue my lvl16 warrior
>chase after a goat clan archer
>quit game
Just carry around a bow
played it when I was 14, but then Diablo 2 came out and never played 1 again
I SENSE A SOUL IN SEARCH OF ANSWERS
Blzzard games used to be the goyslop back in the days, you having nostalgia and praising old Blizzard products will be no different than kids today praising all the goyslop as the best thing ever in 30 years.
Diablo 2's dungeons are objectively worse than Diablo 1's. It's basically the Morrowind vs Skyrim meme before the fact.
I remember dying so many times to the Butcher that I got furious and immediately downloaded Bobbafett's trainer and started fricking up enemies and players alike. I don't think I've ever felt so mad followed by so satisfied and smug ever. Anyway - agreed on D1 having a way better atmosphere and setting than D2.
............and so the adventure begins.
>cube not in inventory
what a waste
Atmosphere really was peak. Gameplay wise I think the fact that it is basically the foundation of the genre that others then built upon does show, but it was an amazing game when it came out.
yeah, atmosphere was peak. but gameplay was dogshit doo doo in my ass and mouth
and yes, i was born before the 90s.
The caves are still an unmatched experience in action RPG combat
>>inb4 Diablo 2
Unironically yes, if you play it without LoD and without patches past 1.05.
whats the Gankererdict on Hell 2 mod?
It makes playing a warrior/physical combat character the most fun it will ever be in Diablo, and player a magic caster the least fun. I did a Secutor my first playthrough, free hit recovery bonuses, was super fun until I got to the 22nd or so floor, which was good enough for me. The Hell 3 just got an update recently btw, I haven't played it yet but from what I can tell it has all the functionality of The Hell 2 and then some.
He's right you know.
Yeah no he's not. You're not the big IQ because you stock your inventory with mana pots and gulp them down with no cooldowns.
PoE has mana potions and other special effect potions as well. They have charges rather than cooldowns. You're telling me Blizzard is too moronic to think of shit like that? Okay.
Diablo 3 is literally isometric WoW with ultraviolent gore turned on.
>frickheug shoulder pads
>Warri-I mean Barbarian
>stats tied to items
>all items are class-restricted rather than having 1 piece of equipment being exclusive, like in D2LOD
>no rune words
>cycle of "press button, wait for cooldown, press button"
>bright cartoon colors
>deckard cain gets yeeted by a bunch of butterflies
>femdiablo
All of you homosexuals that supported Diablo 3 can suck my dick because you directly financed Diablo 4. They couldn't have done it without you.
>frickheug shoulder pads
>Warri-I mean Barbarian
>stats tied to items
>all items are class-restricted rather than having 1 piece of equipment being exclusive, like in D2LOD
>no rune words
>cycle of "press button, wait for cooldown, press button"
>bright cartoon colors
>deckard cain gets yeeted by a bunch of butterflies
>femdiablo
All zased. I'm glad deckard died. He's just a shitty relic reference character and hearing everyone moan to this day brings joy to my heart.
He didn't need to be in the game at all. And he died in a really gay way possible. It's a stupid way to go no matter who the character was.
Dying to a butterfly is the kinoest way to go out. He got what he deserved for being such a non character.
My only problem with first Diablo is with how slow your character moves, all the time. This is sole reason why I never get deep in it, despite playing Diablo 2 a lot later.
The only issue with Diablo 1 was that you couldn't sprint.
It takes about 20 seconds on average to move between cleared floors. The slow movement is an illusion.
When D1 released, the amount of peopple who played games was much smaller than today, Gamers were nerdy types with above avarage IQ. so games could be complex. Kids were mocked and teased for playing games instead of sports.
Fast forward today and the kids that used to tease the nerds for not playing sport now have spent tens of thousands of dollards on FIFA or NFL games and the gaming industry makes more money off low IQ sports fans than they do the origional nerds.
Games now have to become simple so the sports fan might buy it instead of Fifa...
blame EA.
if you like d1 you should play tower of kalemonvo.
not the dev but if you're a D1 fan and don't know about this game you're missing out big time
>77 STR
>Eight THOUSAND Dexterity
>Three THOUSAND Vitality
fricking lmao people actually played this shit?
Not enough zeros. My stats need to at least be in the aeons before the dopamine feed starts dripping in.
Played this for the first time recently and while the atmosphere is good, the gameplay is pretty damn mindless, at least for the warrior. Literally all I did was spam left click, usually in a doorway if available and occasionally use my bow or a spell. Is Diablo 2 better?
>mana actually matters, no "resource generator vs resource spender" designed for a <80 IQ userbase
Mana doesn't matter at all, you just spam mana potions. Mana in D4 matters more because if you spend it poorly, you don't have enough for next spell and die. Also you can make builds without resource generator.