>IT'S BAD BECAUSE... BECAUSE.. BECASUE IT'S JUST BAD OKAY?!?!??!
Is this really the only argument Ganker has against GOTY2023.
Diablo 4
>IT'S BAD BECAUSE... BECAUSE.. BECASUE IT'S JUST BAD OKAY?!?!??!
Is this really the only argument Ganker has against GOTY2023.
playercount will be lower than d3 by EOY
absolutely delusional moron take
If they need 2 season to change gathering gems from EQ to another tab this dead will die after season 2 same as D3.
Lower than d3 is hard
Lower than d3 at the same time of its release is 100% sure
Launch day and during the ultrasimp early access week all my bnet friends were playing it.
The week after about half were still regularly playing.
This week barely anybody is playing it anymore
They forgot the most important part of the game as a service which is a reason to keep people playing your thing.
Lol that's the funny part. There's no good endgame because of shit items. They got me to buy D2R though.
Knowing there is a season coming up fast really pulls the wind out of your sails especially when end game doesn't evolve much.
D4 endgame is a joke.
If I didn't knew better that all their talented people left the company half a decade ago I would honestly believe they are trying to sink this game intentionally because having played both d3 and d4 at launch I honest to god had more fun with d3 if nothing else because of how impossible Inferno was for most classes and playstyles.
I forced myself to get to 70 and I honestly cannot bring myself to play d4 for a second longer. I'm not playing this stupid season because the last thing I want is to repeat this shit.
I hope they make this into a semi-decent game in a year or two but with nu blizzard I honestly doubt they can.
It wasn't funny when gays did it with that Gollum game either.
Why aren't you playing it now if it's so good
just finished playing a phat session. took me over 6h to reply because of that
A game so good the only threads about it are low effort "ITS SO GOOD TRUST US!" spam that get 5 replies
It's like FFXVI. The only good AAA games this year are TOTK, Starfield and RE4.
barry at least frick off from diablo threads. ff16 demo threads were reaching bump limit in 1 hour
this. I bought it, and as of 6/19/23 NOBODY is playing it. So good luck finding help for those world bosses and incompletable quests. Diablo 3 has more players currently. Blizzard is nothing but a shell of what they once were.
Source?
>Difficuly completing quests
Found the source: brainless shitter
source: playing the game and never seeing another random player ever after like a week. So despite it ONLY being a week old, nobody is playing.
>incompletable quests
What the frick are you talking about? Are you a schizo?
sorry, I should have stated that unless you are a barbarian, no other class can do the quests without dying 80000000 times in a row. And it isn't skill based because the shots hone in on you and you take damage that you can't dodge. The game is a total fricking shit show.
>no other class can do the quests without dying 80000000 times in a row
Literally every single class using every single spec in the entire game can solo everything in in the whole game, except Uber Lilith.
Once again I'll ask, what in the frick are you babbling about? Are you some sort of absolutely moronic 70 IQ mongoloid who unironically struggles with D4 quests?
yaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnn whatever you say Blizzbot. Nobody wants your woke propaganda patience test.
>yaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnn
Please go ahead and tell me exactly which quests you are struggling on and what class + level you are. I am genuinely intrigued about how you could possibly struggle with any quest in Diablo 4.
idk what they were bro, I literally gave up after breaking my keyboard, so I went to the store bought another one, and deleted the bullshit. Diablo 4 is fricking trash.
>idk what they were bro
>I literally gave up after breaking my keyboard,
I get the feeling that you are just straight up lying. It is borderline impossible to actually struggle to complete any kind of quest in Diablo 4. It's an insanely casual game until you get to the late-late endgame.
ah I see Blizz employees are on full damage control in full force tonight. If y'all put in as much effort into making a good game instead of woke propaganda that is nothing but a patience test, you might sell more copies. Diablo 4 and WoW Dragonflight are nothing but a homosexual fest of woke bullshit and nobody likes it.
>ah I see Blizz employees are on full damage control in full force tonight
The dude is somehow struggling with questing in Diablo 4, which is a pretty casual game.
https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo4/comments/11vakuc/i_cant_stop_dying_to_bosses/
whatever you say shill
That post is from 3 months ago, back when balance was completely broken.
I was playing it tonight to see if maybe it was just me, and from 2 seconds of logging in, I died like 5 times in a row to trash mobs. Diablo 4 is dead bro. Nobody is playing. The servers are empty.
>and from 2 seconds of logging in, I died like 5 times in a row to trash mobs
Which class, what build, what level and which area?
doesn't matter anymore does it, the game is no longer on my PC. I go into the d4 forums and it is all the same story, nobody likes the game, the people who log in and play say they see maybe 1-2 people over the course of 4 hours, and in game general chat is dead with nobody talking and nobody is doing anything together. Eat a dick Diablo 4 is cancer.
>doesn't matter anymore does it
So you're just lying, got it. There's 100 valid issues about D4 that you can complain about that everyone would agree with, why the frick would you choose to make up random shit about the difficulty?
Are you THAT mentally ill?
the only ones lying are you Blizzard shills on damage control Hoss. Go into your forums and read the complaints, everyone says the same thing, game is unfinished, can't find groups to play with, it is killing people's graphics cards, x class feels terrible to play, etc on and on... face it, nobody wants diablo 4.
You are a sad and pathetic excuse for a human being. Like I said, there's 100 valid things to complain about with D4, and yet you still chose to make up absolutely random shit that makes no sense.
>You are a sad and pathetic excuse for a human being.
>N-No don't say anything b-bad about d-diablo 4 a game that doesn't even have diablo, instead it has some b***h named lillith
nobody wants diablo 4
>nobody wants diablo 4
Then how did they sell ~5 million copies minimum in the first 5 days and made $666 million dollars?
these numbers sound madeup
Based on what? It falls perfectly in line with other Blizzard games, and their public earning reports for those games.
never seen a barb in the last week just whirlwind a world boss for .2 seconds for all of its health in bleed damage?
That was week before last before they fixed the interactions with edgemasters/berserk ripping
i don't play games with joggers in them
>joggers
you are a coward pusy
It's laggy as frick. Even in instanced dungeons
only actual real complaints I could find by people who played the game ITT, are anti-shills being paid more now than regular shills?
>"anti-shills" is the new deflection made by marketers
how else do you explain the delusion/lack of playing the game
it's not anti-shills
it's republicans!!!!!!!! gamers!!!!!!!! nazis!!!!!!!!!
As a player who's overall enjoying it (ToiletDuk the whirlybarb here), I just finished the campaign and my gear ended up trivializing most of the bosses on WT2. I haven't played since then (like a couple of hours ago), but I'm going to work on the capstone dungeon when I get back from work this morning. It feels very collectathonish, but it doesn't bother me.
If you use a Nintendo product, you're attracted to people of single digit ages. You're either single digit as well, or, well...
There's people who spam up these threads calling everyone who likes it a shill. It's not just Diablo 4. They call anyone with a 4090 a shill, or anyone who doesn't live in a mud hut a shill. If you ask them to post proof of purchase for anything they call enjoyers a shill of, they'll always respond "lol not a consoomer goyslop paypig."
Elden Ring, FFXVI and TOTK didn't have this problem. Is it a conspiracy against Blizzard?
They have exactly the same problems, but FFXVI doesn't count since nobody actually played it.
only reason TotK doesnt get this usual treatment is because tendies are actually that believably moronic
>it's a le conspiracy
or maybe diablo 4 just sucks?
just sucks enough to say that anything good said about it is from le paid shills? no
Most of the complaints are the same pastas (look for "150 LOL" in one of them) that have minor quibbles mixed in with outright lies (performance being a major lie people like to spread, as well as a lack of music).
Show proof of purchase.
I just finished the campaign and I can't see for the life of me why I couldn't side with her. I hope she comes back Barbossa-style as an ally in future content.
why would you want a femme lord of hatred to rule over you bro
I want her giant futa wiener to rule my prostate.
>good for its time
That's a normie take. Things that are good will always be good, and Diablo 2 is one of those examples. They didn't suddenly learn how to make good music, games, books, or movies. It's not a technological limitation, but a creative one.
>I want her giant futa wiener to rule my prostate.
>That's a normie take. Things that are good will always be good, and Diablo 2 is one of those examples.
There is a real difference between good and timeless. Diablo 2 is definitely not in the latter category.
>unzips
>performance being a major lie
except the memory leak is well documented and shown by digital foundry
>minor quibbles
I wouldnt call the shitty end game loop and god awful itemization "minor" in a loot grinder
>as well as a lack of music
there's music but it sucks and is just kind of there.
Memory leaks are a non-issue since everyone has 128GB these days.
>128GB
?
Everyone who matters, I mean.
how are plebs like us supposed to get global hardware data like this once Epic destroys Steam and they're forced to shut down?
The secret to running D4 as smooth & responsive as possible is to cap it at 120fps and then enable reflex + boost. You have to aim for 80% gpu usage for headroom to get the lowest input lag & response times.
>enable reflex + boost.
this shit made my card sound like a godamned jet engine and had my temps hitting 80c. turned that crap off and got pretty much the same performance on a 3070ti yet was running much cooler and quieter.
Same thing for me. It would make my GPU sit at 100% usage and clock speeds constantly, making it draw like 400-500W, even if I was just standing in an empty corner. As soon as I turned it off, everything went back to normal.
I've noticed from people playing the game
>play Barb or Druid
>like game
>play Sorc
>hate game
Seems to be a classic case of Blizzard balance determining enjoyment.
I won't even try sorc until there's a significant balance/gear update for them, hopefully in season 1 cause I still want to try it
Yeah, I played Sorc then I played Barb. Sorc players will absolutely hate this game if they make it to WT4.
Unironically never had a problem with lag. I got disconnected like once in my entire playthrough during the final cutscene with Lilith.
i get lag in open world
there are many, many, many, many, many, many, many reasons it is bad
but you will just ignore every single one of them
now go back to licking boots
you're basically a troony
No u
Why are you making more threads? There’s plenty of D4 threads already.
I just don't like diablo-likes.
>GOTY
every fricking release of the year is, it appears. Heard that about Elden Ring, Pizza Tower, TOTk, starfield...
elden ring WAS goty. you retarted or something?
Bad because
>Middle ground between 2 and 3 with the weaknesses of both.
>Level scaling instead of better designed mob stats per area and difficulty.
>Game poorly designed for replay.
>FOMO Seasons that take content AWAY from the game.
>Live service game, so when Blizz pulls the plug it's gone forever.
This isn't difficult.
>muh level scaling
Who cares. When you get your build going everything melts like butter anyway
when you have your build going, you lose power by levelling up. that's the scaling issue
on other arpgs monsters are scaled to map/area level, if you play eg. gr50 on d3 with paragon 0 or a t10 map on PoE at 0 paragon/level 70, versus paragon 10k/level 100, the monsters will be the same strength.
in d4, they will be stronger but give you the same rewards. no other game has done this because it makes 0 sense and only exists because they were too lazy to add actual difficulty levels (or any content that could have non-global difficulty levels) outside of nightmare dungeons
have you actually played D4?
Most people who b***h about it haven't.
I have and he's right
You're playing the most op class by orders of magnitude. Of course you're having that experience.
>talks about GR's
>talks about maps
>conveniently leaves out NM's for D4 which do the exact same scaling as GR's/Maps
Alright bud
so if I do a NM 20 at level 80 and at level 100 the monsters will be the exact same? or will it be harder with the same rewards, punishing you for leveling up once you complete your build?
If you do NM20 at level 80 the mobs will be level 73
If you do NM20 at level 100 the mobs will be level 73
Doing an NM20 at level 100 will be easier, with the same rewards (bar for much less xp)
what a surprise, the spergy homosexual is revealed to be an ignorant Black person
>levelling up. that's the scaling issue
you know there's only a finite amount of levels right? you know paragon board gives you an extreme amount of power each time you level up right?
>you know paragon board gives you an extreme amount of power each time you level up right?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>+5 Dex
Ok. Go play PoE
This is what the blizzBlack person's argument is reduced to? Can't even defend the game anymore so just tells you to play something else. Brilliant.
no one cares about your postmodern post-ironic moronic interpretation of videogame discussion, learn how to speak english instead of copy pasting the same braindead anti shill comments
What is post-ironic about explaining the game's flaws and presenting alternatives, contrary to the blizzBlack person's insistence that there aren't any? Learn how to shut the frick up and concede when your position is indefensible, instead of continuing with your inane damage control and exposing yourself as a shill.
Yeah, you are a moronic and haven't played the game. I'm level 79 and I literally 1 shot elites with lunging strike (a basic skill). The game revolves entirely around vulnerability and armor. If you stack that like mad nothing will bother you till you are fighting things 30 levels above you. I can literally sweep entire nightmare dungeons with mobs at level 100+ with ease. Scaling is not a problem because levels are irrelevant once you get your paragon board and items rolling in.
>1 shot elites
>game is fun
>when you have your build going, you lose power by levelling up
The intended endgame, nightmare dungeons, have set enemy levels.
And you can't overlevel them or you stop gaining xp. Also gear goes all the way to lvl 100 req which is moronic. Gear should stop scaling and throw culmination of your affixes and rolls should be more difficult to reach in the last 15-20 lvls. It shouldn't just keep scaling
dont you want the destiny 2 endgame of increasing your total ilevel by five points a week?
>You lose power by leveling up.
So....... The game gets harder the more levels you gain? That's the point, moron.
You bring in new enemies to make it challenging, not scale up existing enemies. When you play old RPGs, the shit around the starter towns are a fricking joke like 2 hours in. In D4, those enemies are tanky as hell now.
Exactly. You never actually get stronger in this game.
Everything in D4 is meant to be just as strong as you or slightly stronger.
Whoever says this did not play the game
I'm playing it right now and I'm more apt to believe the other anon. Unless you count doing damage at the expense of very little survivability, then he is right. If the build wouldn't get you to 100 on HC it's not viable. And most builds in the game wouldn't without some sort of enabling eq.
You haven't even made it to t4, I can tell
When will they pull the plug realistically? Decades if wow is anything to go by. By then a new diablo will be out anyways. Such a stupid argument.
>Such a stupid argument.
Nta, but absolutely not. A good game should have the confidence that it was designed to be timeless in its intrigue and appeal. And what you are implying is that this game because the service will be fine. Even though I don't hate GaaS in principle, I don't trust Blizzard to offer a good service, so I will judge them the game for how well it holds up even without their continued service.
Shouldnt you be back on reddit
>just pay israeliteed up full price + tax + tip to RENT our game goy
No, it's not a stupid argument at all.
>like PoE?
Not at all. GGG doesn't charge you anything to rent their game.
>hots
Anon please. It's in maintenance mode. It's no longer a question of IF they will pull the plug but WHEN.
If they didn't have level scaling we'd be at the WoW / ff14 point where "Uh oh, the only relevant zone is Hawezar!" so I understand why they did it tbh
sounds like a skill issue
POE has no level scaling or "relevant zones"
they should've activated level scaling after you unlock world tier 3
>muh level scaling
You don’t play the game. The main endgame content, nightmare dungeons, do not scale and you can play at any level you want. Only time you’ll spend in open world is when Helltide is up and you’ll just be plowing through packs of monsters anyway.
>Middle ground between 2 and 3 with the weaknesses of both.
and the strengths.
>Level scaling instead of better designed mob stats per area and difficulty.
it's no elden ring, but the level scaling is done pretty well IMO.
>Game poorly designed for replay.
eh, we'll see.
>FOMO Seasons that take content AWAY from the game.
huh?
>Live service game, so when Blizz pulls the plug it's gone forever.
so like PoE?
all these npc replies
>who cares about X feature?! please buy our game!!
>Middle ground between 2 and 3 with the weaknesses of both.
Weakness of 3rd was aestetics. Weakness of 2nd was 20 million baal runs. I see none of this here
>Level scaling instead of better designed mob stats per area and difficulty.
What are the profits of mob stats per area and difficulty? So that autists can farm some low-level location 24/7 for eternity in hardcore? What benefits are there to gain
>Game poorly designed for replay.
Adventure mode in season 1 fixes that
>FOMO Seasons that take content AWAY from the game.
Seasons are just inventory and character resets, if new mechanics were just slammed into your existing chars woth bis gear you would come back to the game for 3-4 hours.
>Live service game, so when Blizz pulls the plug it's gone forever.
Yeah, like when blizzard pulled the plug on hots and its deffinitely not running with game search faster than dota and lol
>>Live service game, so when Blizz pulls the plug it's gone forever.
>Still can play D1
>still can play D2
>still can play D3
Uhh.... Ganker sisters??? our Response???
1 and 2 aren't always-online. 3 had the last season right before 4 launched, it's only a matter of time before maintenance mode and eventual axing. Stop being moronic.
d3 will still get seasons after they literally said. Nothing will happen and they will continue to support it since more money. Stop BEING moronic.
>d3 will still get seasons after they literally said
>Nothing will happen and they will continue to support it since more money
They have specifically said that D3 is going into maintenance mode and that seasons will just repeat now.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/04/08/after-ten-years-of-new-diablo-3-seasons-diablo-4-will-end-that-run/?sh=6cba6f1cdc97
Does that shit has local coop on consoles like d3 had? If not, then its shit. The only good diablo is diablo 1. Diablo 2 is good but its way too long and diablo 3 is abysmal but its local coop is its saving grace since you can enjoy it with your normie friends
I don't get the pvp area. What do I do with the blood you loot? I get that you go to the fountains to put it in, but then what?
Wonder if the next Blizzard sale is tomorrow or next week.
I enjoy Grim Dawn.
>Blizzard garbage
It's shit by default, sorry kid.
I had fun with it during the season but the dungeons and mobs get kinda repetitive and I'm not looking forward to the seasonal autism where you start from level 1
who the frick wants to start over with no levels and no gear unless there's some significant changes to gear/builds/enemies/etc.?
I doubt blizzard will be able to pull this off
>unless there's some significant changes to gear/builds/enemies/etc.?
New seasons will have new content, usually some new mechanic that will change how dungeons play (assumingly), and also new story content is what they said.
Season 1 announcement should be end of June, releasing mid-late July.
Only thing I find really bad is how rare the major world events are. I was hoping there would be stuff to do all the time, but most of the time when I log in there are shit to do.
People act like this content is all they are gonna get and that this isn't a GaaS. Diablo 3 sucked ass on release and only got good with the expansion. This is good from the start and will get even better.
Diablo 3 got good because they spent two years redesigning the entire way you're supposed to play the game and expanded the total game content by 1.5x in turn with it.
GaaS means you get a shitload of low effort, small content updates. They've already confirmed multiple teams will be working on it at once and will be THROWING AWAY content when Seasons wrap. D3 made money selling copies. D4 makes money selling MTX and keeping people hooked. You kids are fricking moronic.
DIABLO FRICKING 3 NEVER GOT GOOD. EVER.
Still a cartoony homosexual china bait game with no itemization or build variety.
This fricking "Diablo 3 got so good" shit needs to die, only unironic homosexuals played that game and thought it was good. AND YES I got RoS it was STILL. FRICKING. DOG. SHIT.
You know how people are like "you think X or Y, opinion disregarded". For me the only thing that's true for is diablo 3 enjoyers. You are LITERALLY BOTTOM FEEDING ASShomosexualS because that game was genuinely TERRIBLE.
3 has way more build variety than 4.
>DIABLO FRICKING 3 NEVER GOT GOOD. EVER.
it didn't become great. just decent enough at least compared to the shitshow that was the release version. d4 had no excuses.
what does GaaS stand for
Game as a Service. Meaning it's not just what's in the box, but an evolving product.
Games as a Service. It means an online only game where the continual flow of new content is the product. Think Fortnite.
Seen enough on twitch. Looks like absolute shit. If I have an itch to scratch I'll do it with D2:R and never think twice about it. How are people still eating blizzards shitty slop at this point? Have'ye no shame?
I don't find the game interesting ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I am blasting nightmare dungeons on a 81 lvl barb and I must say the game is around 7/10. It could be better, has a good foundation. I have played poe since 2012 and you can enjoy both games without being autistic about it. That being said, D4 is a bit barebones, if u want to sink all your life into it you can't, at the same level of poe, but the setting is nice, graphics are top tier, gearing is a bit questionable (some legendary powers are extremely fricking rare for no reason). Should you buy it? Yea if you have nothing else to play. If not just wait for a couple of seasons and then buy it on sale. Also frick Black folk, trannies, gays and other mental cases.
>some legendary powers are extremely fricking rare for no reason
Bold Chieftain bros rise up.
Frick blizzard for making it rarer than most uniques. I have gotten a grand total of TWO fricking rings with bold chieftain's one it in my 100+ hours of playing barb.
the sorc is really boring and their spells look really bad, meteor and blizzard for example look pathetic
Obvious bait thread, but here's a (You) because I know 90% of Ganker will only see what (You)'s OP got and then unironically respond when they see all the responses are morons like them who fell for the bait.
The biggest indicator of an astroturfed game is whether or not actual gameplay discussion is happening. People asking questions, posting screens, speculating, etc.
That's not happening in the vast majority of D4 threads.
It's hard to have discussions when the same autistic guy spams "GAME IS DOA! EVERYONE IS A SHILL!" over and over. Also, the players are actually playing the game a lot (and you see them ingame all the time. there's a lot on all 4 WTs).
Your post reeks of cope. Elden Ring threads were jam packed with discussion when the game came out, so why are D4 threads devoid of the same?
Probably because you lick dicks.
>the players are actually playing the game
Why is this always used as an excuse? Every single other game that's talked about disproves this. Ganker is spammed during "good game" releases for at least weeks by people playing the game. D4 discussion died after deluze paypig launch day.
>It's just one guy!
Cope.
So it's more than one guy that doesn't own the game and b***hes about things he knows nothing about? Good to know.
If you buy anything by Activision you deserve to be put through a wall.
So you're on this thread b***hing about a game you have never played. You are the definition of the anti-shill.
>anti-shill.
Define anti shill Mr Corporate prostitute
>It's a multiplayer game
>But you can play it singleplayer
The absolute state of shills, even coop games have offline modes.
Multiplayer games can have a singleplayer mode but singleplayer games can't have multiplayer and still be a singleplayer game, what's so hard to understand?
>What is Dark Souls?
You are a moronic fricking shill, have a nice day
>What is Dark Souls?
A multiplayer game.
Paid per post
You don't have to pay anything, this truth is on me.
>what is dark souls
not very good
everytime someone posts legitimate faults with the game you fricking shills immediately go "nu uh you just suck" or "poor cople" or "didn't play the game" while the issues that were being bought forward are being talked about by games media and the devs themselves. frick you.
they ask all the time "which part" to which I simply don't give them the time of day, because at this point it is like beating a dead horse. Also the game is killing people's expensive ass GPUs. Why would I chance playing a game that kills hardware?
>Also the game is killing people's expensive ass GPUs
They literally fixed this 2 days after it happened by implementing an FPS cap on the cutscenes, you moron.
I don't care, I am not reinstalling and I am in the interim of getting a refund for this horseshit.
>I am not reinstalling
You are in here blogging and crying about it, but no one gives a frick about you or what you do. Much like your parents obviously never gave a single frick about you either, and that's why you are here seeking attention.
ah I see you have moved onto belittling the people who complain about a video game you are being paid to do damage control for. it is like clockwork.
>they ask all the time "which part"
and when you actually levy an objective criticism as to why it's bad they just immediately go "no it's not. it's fine. you just suck" or "the music isn't bad, who even listens to ingame music? just play your own songs" jfc these "people" are just subhuman.
they are paid to do damage control around the Internet. I have stated my claims in previous threads, I have stated them on the forums ONLY TO HAVE MY THREAD DELETED AND A 24 HOUR BAN... Yeah I issued a ticket for a refund post haste after that.
Stop replying to yourself, you absolute schizo nutjob. It's painfully obvious.
see. like absolute clockwork
I noticed the pattern a while ago with Blizzard games. No other video game company does this to this extent.
>I have issue X with your game
>can you be more specific
>is more specific
>YOU ARE THE PROBLEM NOT THIS HOLIER THAN THOU GAME HOW DARE YOU REEEEE
>banned from forums for 24 hours
>go to other site to see if anyone else is having the same issues
>user posts claim
>same shit different part of the internet except they have no power to ban here
whatever you say hoss
>Windows 11
>standard taskbar
>110% zoom
>Yotsuba B
>"Redditors Gave Up" YT video open
>"Is 3080ti safe now?" tab
Jesus fricking christ. Stop making yourself look so pathetic.
lol. gets btfo. attacks him for inane moronic reasons. frick off shill
Go into that thread, they blame the actual video cards instead of the game, face it, it's over. no amount of damage control is going to save your horseshit company.
>they blame the actual video cards instead of the game
If you actually looked into that issue, the problem was with the cards. Same exact shit happened with the release of New World, because that game also didn't have framerate caps and people's cards were running at several thousand FPS, causing the faulty GPUs to die.
no other game kills graphics cards like Blizzard games anon. stop killing people's hardware. hire competent programmers and actually pay them a livable wage.
>no other game kills graphics cards like Blizzard games anon
I literally just gave you another recent example. New World. Exact same issue.
yeah and nobody plays new world because of it.
See above.
This. All of the posting is just
>I'm going to buy it, mad?
>I am playing the game haha are you mad
>You should go buy the game
>It's not bad, buy the game
Nobody is actually playing it. As far as I'm concerned, it's already dead.
You had to see the threads during the beta where even as the access to the game was entirely free the shills would still accuse people of not playing the game because if people had played the game and disliked still it hurt their narrative
It would be fine if they didn't frick up the vulnerable status by making the exploit glyph work differently depending on your class. Maybe I would like the game if I played Druid or Bard instead of Sorc but right now I'm waiting to see what the season 1 patch notes say. I want to play ranged, not pseudo melee because all of my builds revolve around frost nova.
>Can't pause
I'll pass on Blizzards trash
>GOTY2023
Huh, I didn't know this was a Zelda thread
>pedophile enters the thread
>Blizzdronescoping.jpg
shut up, crayt
I would buy it without hesitation if there's an offline mode
same
I'm thinking about buying it. I'm not into that type of genre Diablo has, but I remember playing a similar playstyle as an Xmen game on the Gamecube when I was a lad and it brought back memories.
>game with Zelda in the title
>Bethesda game
>First YoshiP game since he became a journo darling
You really think D4 has a chance at a single GotY award? You're fricking delusional.
can you tell us why its good? ill wait.
Fun classes, beautiful varied environments, halfway decent story and acting, demon mommy is sexo, good music, lots of junk to do that I probably won't finish before more content comes along.
Now THIS is a shill post
>demon mommy is sexo
Shit like this is a marketer talking point
Sorry. She's a reason to play.
That's fricking hideous, but then again you're being paid to say that stupid shit.
>everyone who likes it is a shill
>4090 owners? shills
>steak eaters? shills
>people who don't live with their parents? shills
>i'm a NEET and all other "real" people are as well
Blizzard must be cutting corners again to hire such low rate marketers
Those people in that cutscene in that church did the right thing.
>demon mommy is sexo
she isnt. she was purposely made ugly so she WOULDNT be coombait, she even has crooked teeth.
>purposely made ugly
>single hottest character in Vidya since Remake Tifa
What did she mean by this?
They gave her big breasts and made her 8 feet tall
>muh teeth
Lol
>No sales numbers
yeah, this slop flopped
>35 billion hours played since launch
All me
>but farming baal 15,000 times is good content!!
>comparing yourself to a 23yr old game
Black person they had 2 decades years to fix that. they should have learned what works from both d2 and d3 and implemented it in 4 instead of making new moronic problems. fricking moronic blizzdrones i swear
>Contrarianism to the point of insanity or obvious viral marketing?
It's the WORST Diablo game ever made. Even Diablo 3 and the disaster of a launch was more enjoyable than this. Level scaling was literally the reason I quit WoW. Fighting mobs for two minutes, only for them to drop white gear was the final straw for me. In a game where you kill and loot, mobs should not take this long to kill. You are never at an advantage.
someone lost their pacifier!
D4 has level scaling? Fricking gross, but what do you expect from the live "service" meme
you're an idiot
barely anything at late game is taking me minutes to kill, usually not even bosses
I barely ever see white gear drop any more, barely even see blue gear drop, almost everything from elites is yellow with several legendaries per dungeon
I can't believe this kind of trash, low IQ opinion is actually sincere. I think you're intentionally fudding the game for some sad, pathetic reason
So much white gear.
is this a mobile game?
The diamonds aren't like "collect the higher level one!" It's just upgrade slots.
...so it's "upgrade to the higher level one"?
Jesus Christ. Get the frick out of here
I didn't know this was a Diablo Immortals thread
I'm trivializing bosses like crazy. Maybe you just suck.
>dozens of posts later
>still no gameplay discussion, just advertisers doing damage control
Like I said.
mfw zoomers are so used to subversive storytelling that they just assumed lilith is the enlightened morally grey choice when she had no plan, no motivation, and no explanation, and did nothing but travel the map blowing up cities for 6 acts in a row and then dying
There's no real evidence that she'd destroy sanctuary like Mephisto claimed. Everything from her history showed she rebelled against hell and was cast out. Even Inarius realized he was wrong.
her motivation was to setup the expansions. she read the script.
Should I buy Diablo 4 or try Path of Exile?
I play gachas regularly and I still think Diablo 4 Ultimate Edition was my biggest buyers remorse this year.
While I don't feel like there is a "severe" lack of content, I'm still not on board with the idea that most games have roadmaps and shit to keep people clinging on. That said I only paid a single time for the game until expansion, and DLC has been a tear sponge for a long time now
I personally enjoy my ride with Diablo 4 altough I mostly play Hardcore as on normal I feel that endgame progression will burn me out quickly.
I agree with most of the stuff that people here complain about and I’ll add my three cents.
Yeah, scaling does suck and looks weird altough it does allow me to party up with friends who lost their character. I think the real problem is that scaling is 1:1 strong. You never feel that you grow much stronger because everything fits your level exactly. I agree with devs though that keeping level 5 Fallen when I’m level 80 does not make sense as it makes a lot of content one-time-only. There’s probably a good solution somewhere like creating more events like helltides that make you revisit early areas of the game.
A lot of supposed lategame content feels very lackluster like World Bosses who are just walking chests.
My big gripe is build diversity as there’s barely any. There are archetypes that feel completely unsupported or just subpar. It’s hard to make decisions like „be tanky or deal damage” as most of skills and items do everything anyway. Game will not let you pick suboptimaly within certain build altough it will punish you for some builds that feel like a mess (Bash/Overpower Barbarian for example).
So, why do I play the game?
Campaign was good for me, I enjoyed it.
Difficulty level is better than in Diablo 3 where it was impossible to die during campaign even when hiking up difficulty whenever possible. That game was fricking stupid.
Hardcore forces me to optimize at every stage of the game instead of running in hamster wheel for „supposed lategame build”.
It’s fun to kill monsters especially during Helltides and in Nightmare dungeons.
Also I play mostly with friends who turn average games into good ones so maybe it’s just that.
Any game built with "seasons/additional content drop" in mind is shit and ignores good gameplay in lieu of shitty repetitive shit for the monkey brained out there who enjoy farming.
Destiny and Fortnite and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
>the monkey brained out there who enjoy farming
I don't enjoy farming, I just use it as background noise when I want to listen to podcasts and audio books.
t. Way over 10k hours in PoE.
It's the themepark of MMOs mixed with the monetization of Mobile Games. In the end there is only one person winning
I can detect this is a sad shill thread, as only a single screenshot of the game appeared in 100 posts.
I've posted 3.
here you go schizoanon just for you
D3 (RoS) is so much better its actually funny.
>another bait thread
>morons falling for it
everytime
kys blizzdrone, still not going to play this garbo
All Diablo games are boring
where's the offline mode?
Not a single player game.
Diablo is a singleplayer game and you're a shit eating homosexual.
This is Diablo 4 though.
Which has a single player option, but is always online, just like Activisions other shit franchise, COD.
If you're not buying online shit, it doesn't need to exist for Bobby.
It's a multiplayer game though, a singleplayer game can't have multiplayer and still be a singleplayer game.
> a singleplayer game can't have multiplayer and still be a singleplayer game.
Worked with Diablo 2, and Diablo 3 on console
You can play the game singleplayer, but if it's still a multiplayer game if it has multiplayer.
>console
irrelevant shitbox
Nothing "worked" for diablo 2 because it was filled to the brim with cheating
Nothing worked for Diablo 3 and 4 because they're shit games made for the modern Blizzard and consolegay audience.
>games built for consolegays have actual endgame and build variety
oh no how terrible if only it was just baal runs...
>oh no how terrible
Not as terrible as getting disconnected right before finishing that endgame and permanently losing your character so Blizzard could update the REAL MONEY store in the game.
You frickers are braindead, enjoy your Battlepass moron.
>hardcuck
>um actually having no content is good
kys you coping moron
there is a lot of console gaygery hard baked into the game, ie horse, I wish they made a specific pc version and not just port it
there is no single player option
It's a DLC vehicle
how do i have fun in this game
Reroll uninstall wizard.
>dogshit game that has no content where israelites make the demon the good guy just to jack themselves off about being the most evil people on the planet
>every time an AAA game comes out it's always filled with frogposters
really makes my Black person jigger.
Almost like it's literally all Twitch redditors coming here to shill.
It's bad because
>it's a full price tripe A game with a battlepass and in-game shop
>you had buy the premium edition to play on release
>it's not even a diablo at this point it's a copy of Lost ark but with trannies instead of waifus and lame spells instead of flashy over the top moves
>class balance is all over the place some classes can one shot dungeons with one button some barely do damage
>servers are shit as per usual with blizzard, it's laggy as frick
>story is mediocre, boring and inconsistent with existing lore
>game is called diablo, yet diablo's not in the game
>"legendary gear" is more common than common gear
>there is very little variety when it comes to dungeon design, it's like 5 cave layouts with 3 different biomes
>gameplay is sluggish and unsatisfying
>character customization is terrible, fat druids, troony barbs and skeleton looking necromancers
I can go on but I think this is enough for now. Despite everything however this is way better than the other blizzard games. It's just a mediocre ARPG, which is way better than their other abominations.
>poorgay complaints
>too stupid to understand that diablo is the franchise
>more poorgay complaints
>crying because necros look spooky
just be more concise and write "I'm a weeb" next time, no need to detail your brain archetype
Literally none of these even matter.
Poorgay
Filtered
Cope
Seethe
Dilate
Diablo IV Won, PoE lost!
kys troony
Loot from the end of a nightmare 56. Picked up all ancestrals.
Yeah I got a unique from the event but I have 5 others of that shitty homosexual minion ring.
Higher NM's don't give fricking anything xd
yet the moronic shills over here will praise that shit
>wanderer
kek even in your fantasies you're some moronic aimless loser
It's bad because it's the same shitty game they've been making since Diablo 2. Get some fricking standards you disgusting mouth breathing homosexuals.
>Hornlets think their opinions matter.
OH MEGA LUL
Ya'll keep seething now.
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
Where do you get it?
Sorry sweetie but you had to play the beta and kill the FOMO boss, your account is bricked forever 🙂
I just have the strongbox thing from finding all the Lilith Statues
I don't mind level scaling tbh, if I had to do the campaign ever again I'd probably just drop the game entirely. The choice to just say "frick that shit I'll just level with whispers and open world shit" is one of the best decisions they've ever made in their games.
It will be forgotten and whales will move on within 6 months, while boomers will still be playing D2 for another 20 years
Where the frick are the followers
holy shit I didn't even think about that, I would like a little merc baby to care for and gear up now, blizzard
Trying to make the game look like Diablo 2 was such a massive mistake. The world is so boring, samey and dull.
Reducing the number of skill to be more like D2 is absolutely the worst. D3 did it so much better, so much more variety.
>bu-bu-but after you play 3,000 hours and max your gear you just use one optimal skill!!11
And the lack of a mercenary is a crime.
Combats pretty fun at least
>inb4 homosexual memer Black person calls me a new gay
Played D1 when it was new, before your diabetic parents were born.
The game is nothing like d2
Listen ass-Black person, they went back to clicking points on a skill that unlocks mroe skills. They went back to a dull and dreary shit after being bright and colorful.
has D4 been cracked, yet?
yes
nice, how is it?
>GOTY2023
Oh c'mon. I enjoyed this, but it's far from GOTY2023. This year is stacked.
I also think Blizzard writers get in the way of an otherwise good story they created with super dumb writing. But Blizzard has always been that way really, so it'd be NICE for them to get better in that department, but it's par for the course.
Their art team continues to be some of the absolute very best in the business though
the sound design is almost good they just really missed the mark when it comes to the weightiness of attacks and monster deaths, it feels/sounds more like swinging an electric flywatter into a blanket
I have been playing diablo since I got a demo disk from pc magazine in like 1995. It plays exactly like every other game.
I like d4.
If you don't like d4, that's fine, you just don't like diablo games.
Are all moronic e-celeb and streamers literally SHIIS for big corporations?
These moronic mongs live of blizzard money and live to shill with moronic "centrist logic".
Holy shit.
How we solve the shill problem?
We need a shill genocide.
We need to normalize the idea that your opinion as a "critic" does not matter if you are not transparent with who gives you money.
All blizzard shills deserves a bullet in the head.
who?
>DOOD BLIZZARD IS SO EVIL DOOD BAD COMPANY BAD GAMES
>first in line to play the newest blizzard slop 24/7 every time
the dude does literally the opposite moron
> NOOO DIABLO 4 IS NOT EVIL
> NOOO
> THE DEV ACTUALLY CARE FOR YOU
> NOOO
> IS NOT RIGHT TO SAY THAT THEY DON'T CARE FOR YOU
> BROOO DON'T PUSH AN AGENDA BROOOO
> JUST PLAY THE GAME BROOO
Shill genocide NOW.
If you defend a multimillon dollar corporation you deserve to be tortured to death.
This apply to all the homosexuals in this thread.
torture me daddy
pig
make me squeal
>paypig calling other pig
Yes! Power to the proletariat brother Revolution now!!!!111
I just wish they could've added free movement speed somehow like they did in D3 with the 25% movement in paragon. Moving around in this game is so fricking slow. Even with 10% movement on boots.
by the time you get that far into paragon you could have much better movement than just 10% on boots
Game just makes me want to play D3 seasons again. Apparently they're cycling them after this next one so I'll pick up all the shit I'm missing.
the new tree in the last season was great, I was kind of sad to hear that apparently it will not carry over into Normal as a base system.
Loved D3 seasons. You know you had a week or two of D3 where you just tried out new season stuff and slaughtered monsters until you got bored and moved on to other games. D3 somehow scratched and itch for me few other games could. It was braindead fast food power fantasy.
Debating on getting this on console instead of pc.
I'm debating on whether I should use a controller or mouse/keyboard. It feels like it would be more comfortable with a controller but not sure if it'll control like shit.
Blizzard is a scumbag comp but nobody seems to care
no company is on your side
you didn't read a single one of those posts or play the game, thanks for outing yourself you stupid Black person
nationwide is
kek goddamn you for getting me with this dad-tier post
truly ironic that a free to play slop addict is trying to mock others
how much does a pig pay the farmer for the slop he gets everyday? oh yeah, it's free
Bragging about giving your money to a corporation is true pig behavior
shill mad lmao
but pigs don't pay for their slop, do they mr pig?
oink oink
Starfield is clearly going to be goty2023
WHERE IS THE FRICKING LILITH PORN
most artists killed themselves months ago during the start of the AI art boom. Gotta prompt generators
Unironically still leveling to 100 (level 79 Barb). It's good, I'm not going to shit on it to be a contrarian troony on Ganker.
I'm enjoying the campaign with my gf but it definitely has issues
>bosses are cool but non-threatening, astaroth and andariel don't do enough damage to really worry you
>hidden item power thresholds, the game never explained that you should be upgrading everything, even if it has bad stats for you, purely for it's item power
>almost all basic skills feel terrible, damage for them need to be increased by atleast double, sometimes triple for some abilities
>resource generation in general feels undertuned, feels like a gem/affix needs to exist that gives you resource on kill
>legendaries feel both cool and awkward, some of them make or break an entire build, meaning that the base power in a lot of classes are too weak without legendaries
>there should be limits to the amount of legendaries you can imprint at one time, most people around level 50 have full slotted legendaries that do almost nothing for their actual build because it allows a higher upgrade level
>blues are completely worthless despite the devs stating they wanted to do otherwise, they should multiply the 1 stat they are focused on by 2.5 of what rares do, so a player can finely tune their stat goals(like crit damage during vulnerability)
I can keep going on, it's a game that definitely has flaws and I'm not even at the endgame, but it's fun when it's fun
The older I get the more I realize D2 and D2gays are the cancer holding arpgs back. You guys are literally mindbroken.
>GOTY2023
You had a point until this. Game is not bad, but it's no Tears of the Kingdom or Starfield.
These games will always be trash until enemies are actually threatening and you deal with them by reacting and positioning instead of just making number go up.
That's how this game is until you get really op gear after ancestrals. You think you want it but you don't. Everything mass cc's and you are constantly playing cat and mouse until you can get better gear every 10 lvls
This is why Lost Ark is a better designed game. The problem with Lost Ark is just the damn FOMO/monetization.
Does it have
>Season Pass
>MTX
>DLC
>Lootboxes
>Always online
>Live Service model
If "Yes" in even one, then it is a bad game.
If more than one "Yes" then it's a disgusting slop.
>animeposter attempting to call out slop
Are you so oblivious and stupid that you can't see the irony here? Anime is the #1 slop.
>>IT'S BAD BECAUSE...
Because the gameplay isn't fun. It requires no thought. Everything is easy. Even all the weapons and armors aren't interesting, just grab anything that gives more green. Bosses don't require any effort. Story is med. The game is designed to be a store cash cow to sell actually unique armorsets in their store. None of the classes were fun to play. Honestly, ARPG aren't my thing I guess. Diablo 3 was fun when I was a teenager but 4 is just braindead. I much rather play a regular RPG or shooter or management game or hack&slash like GoW or Fighting game or platformer than ARPG.
Lilith carried the entire thing but other than that it's a med 5/10 game. ARPGs should die as a genre. It enables the most cookie clicker habits of gamers. It wouldn't surprise me that ARPG gamers have at least 15 to 20 points lower IQ than any other genre of gamers and have addictive personalities as well as gambling habits of buying lottery tickets daily from a convenience store.
Not only do these ARPG gamers possess abysmally low IQs, but their lives revolve around mind-numbing repetition tasks like brainless zombies. They lack any ambition to succeed in the world. They are nothing more than drooling simpletons, incapable of comprehending anything beyond mindless repetitive button-mashing and clicking. If I had a button to kill of any groups of people, the israelites, the Nigs or anything, It would be the ARPGers. Their addiction drives them to sink countless hours with swamp ass while their real lives crumble around them. It's both sad and amusing to witness their pathetic existence, wasting away in a cesspool of digital insignificance. These degenerate creatures are truly the epitomize of the lowest levels of scum in the human speices if we were to even call them humans.
> It wouldn't surprise me that ARPG gamers have at least 15 to 20 points lower IQ than any other genre of gamers
>habits of buying lottery tickets daily from a convenience store
>I had a button to kill of any groups of people, the israelites, the Nigs or anything, It would be the ARPGers.
> These degenerate creatures are truly the epitomize of the lowest levels of scum in the human speices if we were to even call them humans.
BASED AND TRUE.
Another low IQ shitskin filtered by PoE. lamow.
Because it sucks
Get over it, pleb
Not goty by a long shot
But I’m still having a pretty good time
campaign was pretty fun finished it at 43
after completing the campgaign it's just grind forever, takes 2-3 hours to get a level, becomes very mundane, 1 dimensional and boring. Not worth $70
I think my big complaints and they are kind of minor at this point is most classes feel awkward to play with some better than others but all have some amount of clunk and feel awkward, especially melee skills feels like they have no reach to them.
This next one might be my latency, but also feels like enemy hit detection is fricked, I'll be a mile away from some large swing and I'll still get hit from time to time, especially on projectile monsters.
>This next one might be my latency, but also feels like enemy hit detection is fricked, I'll be a mile away from some large swing and I'll still get hit from time to time, especially on projectile monsters.
This one is definitely on your end or you are on some weird server. I have ~200 hours played and never experienced anything like that.
>I think my big complaints and they are kind of minor at this point is most classes feel awkward to play with some better than others but all have some amount of clunk and feel awkward
Skills themselves mostly feel really good as a barb. I think the major one that felt shit was upheaval because you couldnt 180 clicking behind it's cast where facing.
BUT I'm playing with charge and kick a lot, and booting demoBlack folk into walls can be very clunky, cant left click them afterward sometimes because of some shitty hit registry or bounding with the walls. When it's good it's really good, but shit like that brings it down.
Definitely experienced some lag bullshit, more so on weekends i think. Mostly things run well but Ill dodge a screen away sometimes or leap off horse and skid around like a madman.
The game sure could use more varied uniques/aspects/skill tree and more good bossfights with interesting shit going on instead of easily dodgeable telegraphed aoes. But that shit will come with seasons im sure. I just hope it's mostly additive and builds a repetoire of cool shit instead of "this quarter x skill is op and y skill is dogshit" But this is blizzard so I can't be too hopeful.
When do I get a goddamn mount? I at act 3 I just rescued some broad from the cannibal city and I'm lvl 34. This slow walk bullshit is annoying.
Dogshit excuse for an arpg, only seething casuals and dads love it
>people have already pointed out all the glaring flaws
>mouth breathing blizzdrone puts fingers in ears and goes nah nah nah I can't hear you. it's the BEST arpg game ever!!
it's bad because the world sucks
the graphics are lame and outdated
the items are uninspired and all feel the same
the combat is clunky and boring
the story is woke and uninteresting
the zones are drab and flavorless
the cutscenes are lame and forgettable
the monetization is predatory and greedy
the endgame is boring and rehashed
Preach
>it's bad because the world sucks
The world is fine. It will definitely get better with the expanded zones in seasons and the 2 huge regions in the 2 confirmed expansions.
>the graphics are lame and outdated
The graphics are fine.
>the items are uninspired and all feel the same
Some of the unique items are pretty good. They just need to expand much more on stuff like that.
>the combat is clunky and boring
Combat is one of the few things that D4 actually does very well. It's literally the exact opposite of clunky. Though the spender -> generator needs to be changed.
>the story is woke and uninteresting
It's not really particularly woke, but it is definitely very uninteresting.
>the zones are drab and flavorless
The zones are okay. Nothing too fancy, but not bad either. The hell zone that you go to at the end of the campaign is amazing, so they just need to make more stuff like that in the seasons and expansions.
>the cutscenes are lame and forgettable
Valid complaint.
>the monetization is predatory and greedy
Valid complaint, though you can easily completely ignore the paid battle passes and the stores since it's all cosmetics.
>the endgame is boring and rehashed
Valid complaint. I'm guessing they will probably do something about it though. I can't imagine they will just let it be like D3 where the only real endgame activity is to repeatedly run NM dungeons 24/7.
the most OP skill on my rogue is this dagger thing which activates a second time after a few seconds
doesn't feel good at all to use but shits on anything else for damage so have to use it
demon hunter comparatively had so many good and satisfying skills to use while leveling
especially cluster arrow
>doesn't feel good at all to use
If you are talking about Twisting Blades, then I don't know what to tell you. It's literally the most fun ability in the entire game, because you actually have to think of the trajectory that the blades will fly back to you, and you're constantly moving all over the place with dashes and shadowsteps.
I hate it
not fun at all and does not feel smooth to use
the whole combo point thing is dumb as well. like you have to use zero damage generators at high resource for a big damage ability
at least with the rogue in WoW your combo generators did a lot of damage
>not fun at all and does not feel smooth to use
I don't know what to tell you. It's widely regarded as one of the best and most fun abilities in the entire game, because it's actually engaging and makes you think about how to aim things.
Maybe it's just too complicated for you.
its not too complicated its just janky as frick and doesn't even have a satisfying animation
I hate it
>its just janky as frick
There is literally nothing janky about Twisting Blades. Not sure what kind of weird thing you are experiencing.
>It will definitely get better with the expanded zones in seasons and the 2 huge regions in the 2 confirmed expansions.
That's a rather longwinded way to say the game isn't even close to being release worthy yet and wont be worth playing unless you spend AT LEAST 210 dollars on it. Plus tax and tip.
>unless you spend AT LEAST 210 dollars on it. Plus tax and tip.
70 for the main game. 0 for seasons. 30-40 per expansion. Where are you getting 210 dollars from?
>30-40
Shill-kun please. This is acti-blizz. The "expansions" will be 70 dollars + tax + tip. And they will be incredibly lackluster that would've been a part of the original game, had this been pre-merger.
Why do you think expansions will be full price? Do you have any actual arguments, or is it just schizo beliefs?
Bobby is the greediest man alive. If you think they won't be jacked up as much as possible, you're naive. Or more like a shill.
expansions will be full price and will include only a battle pass
>it's bad because the world sucks
yeah the map is big enough but there's frickall content to it. it's similar to those shitty ubisoft open world maps with hundreds of clickables (lilith statues) extremely repetitve world events ( YOU LEFT ME ALONE!!!) and side quests that have your running across the map to get 100 bear assess several times only to get rewarded by a shitty cache (no frick your renown system)
>the graphics are lame and outdated
graphics are ok
>the items are uninspired and all feel the same
agreed. they really need more legendary affixes and the aspect system is awful.
>the combat is clunky and boring
combat is ok and smooth enough but yes it gets repetitive really fast doesn't help that you'll be using maybe 1-2 skills for 95% of your damage output. the real clunky and janky shit is the mount system. frick that horse
>the story is woke and uninteresting
not sure about woke but the story is pretty dumb
>the zones are drab and flavorless
agreed. doesn't help that enemy spawns/placement can be dumb at times.
>the cutscenes are lame and forgettable
only good cutscene was the trailer for summoning lilith
>the monetization is predatory and greedy
agreed. frick the shills and blizz
>the endgame is boring and rehashed
agreed
let me guess, it's always online
don't worry in 10 years it will be 'good'
unless diablo '5' comes out and they just take parts away and take 4 down to make way for 5
>don't worry in 10 years it will be 'good'
They took D3's disaster launch and turned it around in 2-3 years. D4 is in a 10x better state than D3's launch.
too bad they are moving backwards
> Grinding two hours for watching same animation thousand time for 5% attack increase
I enjoy shitposting on /v more than that
If you bought this you are soulless cattle and need to be put down.
>NONONONONONONONONONONOON STOP POINTING OUT HOW SHIT THE GAME IS ITS GOOOD!!!!!! JUST BUY THE $100 PREMIUM EDITION, THE BATTLEPASS, THE LOOT BOX PREMIUM SUBSCRIPTION, THE 7 DLCS, AND THE $50 ARMOR SETS FROM THE SHOP AND THEN YOU'LL SEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
>NONONO STOP SAYING THE GAME IS GOOD!!!!!! MOMMY WON'T GIVE ME $100 FOR IT!!!!!!!! YOU MUST BE A SHILL!!!!!!!!!
How is it a good game? Why would it be GOTY?
it's so boring. halls of torment with wasd controls is 10 times more entertaining
I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, but post-Lillith gameplay feels not that fun. D3 and D2 still felt fun, even with D2 just turning into Bhaal runs after the extra 2 playthroughs at higher diff.
Is it just a "I'm probably playing wrong" thing or is it a fundementally different experience, so possibly just not for me?
WT3/4 is just Helltides, Whispers, and Dungeons for eternity
If you play diablo IV less than 100 hours a week lower your tone when talking to me.
It's bad because of the sincere case of the GAYS
Games As Yon Service?
>Shock tree doesn't get a source of Vulnerable
>Paragon Shock skills built around cracking energy
FIX IT BLIZZARD
d4 and neo-blizz's practices are a perfect example of narcisstic abuse. They release a shit game at a premium price that is extremely superficial and people think oh its good because its slightly better than D3.
They promise to fix the game later with future patches which are to be funded by microtransactions. The game will never be fixed because the shittiness is hard programmed into the game.
a game with the polish of current poe or d3 is not possible at launch. It took them countless patches and iterations to reach their current status.
leveling up was fine, the cutscene department was pretty lacking and that is pretty much the only appeal of blizzard games since they can't write well. Endgame is borderline awful. The only content is Nightmare Dungeons and there is absolutely 0 variety. It gets EXTREMELY stale quickly and the dungeons just aren't fun.
imagine taking the rift system from d3 and just making it worse, through obviously moronic changes like removing the timer (and associated reward for playing well)
>instead of increasing monster density, they just make them give more XP to fix NM dungeon leveling being slow
The Helltides also don't have enough monsters, I should be tripping over them without needing to mount between packs.
They completely missed the mark on Helltides. It should be some sort of event like the Legion Events, except you should have to defend a stronghold from constantly spawning demons, and you'd have to rebuild fortress walls as demons destroy them, and shit like that.
And then once you have defended, you should then be able to push out of the stronghold and be able to destroy the portals where they spawned from.
I do think they should be bigger events but not really in the way you describe. That leans too hard towards MMO, like this shit is a loot pinata game.
I didn't get memed into playing it because I'm not a weak-willed homosexual. HA
Could be the greatest game of all time, and I'd never find out because Blizzard burned all their bridges with me a long time ago.
It's good but not great. The item shop, however, is atrocious and the fact it wasn't revealed until release means the execs knew it would be controversial but forced it in anyway.
I've done act 1 so far, level 25ish. The only fun part of the game at this point as been when I randomly found the Butcher in a dungeon and broke his pathing AI so he just stood still, and doing the final boss of act 1 who had real mechanics. The combat, especially on Tier 2, feels really slow and I haven't had any D3/PoE insert other ARPG level of fun with a build where I can be op for like 3-4 levels before the game balances it out. I feel like I'm always killing things at the same slow rate no matter what. Consumable crafting is cool so far since I always have enough mats but the idea of having to now grind for mats if i need more like lost ARK sucks ass. I can't really rate the story, I don't give a shit about D4 lore at all but it seems fine at least. I've gotten 3 characters to 20-25 range so far (Sorc, Barb, Druid) and only Sorc has had any fun really. Barb and Druid just feel like a war of attrition in every fight. I hope it gets better but its a rough first impression.
Bunch of fricking autists ITT. By the time the average person finishes the campaign season 1 will already be out, giving them something to transition to immediately
I only play a few hours a day, but I've already finished the campaign. That said, I'm looking forward to the nightmare/torment grind.
imagine paying $70 to be spoonfed liquid shit only for it to feel like dried up shit on your face after. you go to get cleaned up but they trash talk you for saying it tastes like shit and you don't want anymore. That is diablo 4.
Imagine never playing a game but seething about it so hard because your mom won't buy it for you.
is barbarian meant to be so brainless? I finally made a necro alt and its like a whole new game, im actually engaged and not falling asleep
All barb builds have 3 slots taken up by the same 3 required shouts, so it's inherently going to be less interesting.
I only play arpgs for the story, and the d4 story is terrible
>don't get to kill even ONE (1) prime evil the entire game
it's bad because it's bad, do you need a dictionary?
I refuse to partake in battle pass and online only full priced games.
This is the worst excuse of a semi-mmo I've ever seen. It's somehow worse than fricking sea of thieves. you get into random lobbies in the world sometimes and that's it
>it's so hard I raged and broke my keyboard d4 is really bad guise!
These are the kind of schizo shitters getting filtered? Blizzard done good for once.
>start a new character on hardcore
>realize i have to collect all the lilith statues again
>was a necro lad in d2
>curious about d4's version
>look up builds for endgame
>summoning seems to be not an option
wtf
one of the only reasons to be a necromancer and it cant even go endgame? makes me glad i didnt fall for it
You can do summonmancer, but your minions will hit and die like wet tissue paper until you can put paragon into the nodes that actually let them survive and do damage
Basically you need to play bonespear necro and then spend millions respeccing to minions
>want to be big bone daddy ass necro
>reduced to being some flavor of dark magician
every fricking time, can no game dev ever fulfill that niche fantasy
you didnt play the game. icyveins is not the game.
You can but they suck for a lot of reasons. Slow, low damage, 0 control over them (can't target enemies, move them, change aggressive/defensive, nothing) and a whole bunch of the items and skills/paragon boards for them seemingly don't even function correctly or at all. Weird shit.
careful some Blizzard shill might call you a moron 😉
Just came to this thread to say: the game is fricking good, I'm having a blast.
I just dont look forward to grinding my 15 hours of chores before I can start late game every season.
>just did a dungeon full of cultists and snakes
>found a note about how the prisoners will be forced to mate with the cultists' snake gods
>the prisoners won't survive the process
>tfw no snake goddess to frick me then kill me
Why should I play this over Grim Dawn or Diablo 2?
>Grim Dawn
There's a reason why it's called Grim Yawn. It's an insanely boring slog. You need a dozen mods to make that game bearable.
>Diablo 2
D2R is great in every single way and a massive improvement over D2 when it comes to the tons of QoL stuff they added, except that there's no TCP/IP, so no mods.
I don't see how you could get bored by Grim Dawn but think Diablo isn't. Might as well just play an auto battler gacha at endgame.
If you like wow so much that you want every game you play to have MMO rotations then d4 is for you
Sounds exactly like D3 then
pretty much. I think some d3 builds escaped that gimmick with broken set bonuses later, but yeah
Why do I see so many homosexuals online defending the lack of endgame?
These arpg's are literally only about endgame
paid shills and unironic blizz drones
>unironic blizz drones
at this point, it's just paid shills. nobody is actually playing diablo 4. I miss when Blizz was a good company. They used to be the reason you spend a grand building a gaming PC, now they are the laughing stock of the Internet.
I will never forgive them for killing off HOTS for their esports homosexualry. it was the last game they made with any actual soul in it. blizzard quality used to mean something.
years of warcraft 1,2,3, then wow, BC, wotlk, and even cata to an extent but it is where they began to fall off. years of starfcraft. years of diablo 1, and 2 just being the best games ever created. Everyone played Blizzard games. Then they started to act moronic and stopped listening to what people actually wanted, and despite their games killing your hardware, you bought a new gpu and kept playing rinse and repeat. You felt fullfilled after long gaming sessions, you would go to bed and have nightmares of Diablo 2 or dreams of flying on the back of a hippogryph through eversong forest. Now you get carbon copy bullshit with bullshit mechanics nobody likes, and cookie cutter shit nobody asked for with bugs and glitches and forced online and pay to win bullshit, oh and they still kill your hardware, but you can't be fricked to care anymore.
Because it is full of green-gray tundra, gray "realistic" piles of logs called villages, gray bums in gray rags, gray dungeons, gray demons, and it all looks like a big pile of gray shit in the best traditions of "realistic" depicting of northern mythology. Main characters look like shit too, i play video games for intetesting worlds and characters, that also look either pleasing to my eyes or, at least, look impressive enough, not for "realistic" shit.
Also it is online only, no lan support, no normal skill trees, forced resource generation through actions instead of mana, damage indication numbers close entire view (not that i want to see this gray shit, but numbers popping is also not a thing to show during gameplay), bullshit plot by morons, who don't know their own lore, diablo game without Diablo himself.
then they have the audacity to cry
>why is nobody buying our games anymore?!?
you morons literally asked for that. we also dont need
>somehow, diablo returned
for the fourth time
Should I swap from twirling blades rogue to flurry? I'm getting kinda bored. Lvl 48, end of act 2 btw.
I may have done too much side shit; is it normal to be this level before the endgame? level scaling being goofy
side shit isn't too bad but better finish campaign just for the sake of it. if you're still not feeling burned out you can try to do your capstone and get to wt3.
Imagine not valuing your time so mush as to waste it on live service ARPG trash like D4
It’s probably as good as a Diablo game could ever be after the damage D3, WoW, and Overwatch did to blizzard and the franchise which is a pretty remarkable feat. I’ll be interested to see where it is a year or two from now and I’ll pick it up again periodically. It’ll never be as good as Diablo 2 but nothing will ever be as good as D2 because any game that faithful to what D2 was about will sell like absolute shit in todays market
>inb4 PoE
PoE is what brain worm ridden zillenials who were too young to actually play D2 at the time thought D2 was about
It's not as a good as Diablo 3. The critic reviews on metacritic even reflect that with their lukewarm score of 86 and they're paid off. This game is tailor made for WoW addicts and people completely new to Diablo since they have comparison.
>since they have no comparison**
I meant. I'm actually confused as frick by the people in love with this game because I tried really hard to like it and I was even hyped as frick for it. I didn't expect it to be as good as D2 but I at least expected something as good as D3. It delivered that but the combat is boring and the world feels sterile. I get that they're going hard on the depressing world but it puts me to sleep.
you and me both anon. just get a refund and move on with life.
the combat is far better than d3 wtf are you talking about?
you can faceroll short fights but bosses actually require you use 4% of your brain which is 1000% higher than what d3 expected of you
It's literally Diablo 3 but sluggish feeling and shitty with the same crappy cooldowns. Boss mechanics are simple and less creative than D3. You just think this game is better because streamers told you so. It's objectively a downgrade.
>Boss mechanics are simple and less creative than D3
kek
d3 bosses were 99% standing in one spot and blowing all cd's. even doing greater rifts past 100 the bosses were sub 30 second tank n spanks. you didn't play d3 at all did you?
>you didn't play d3 at all did you?
I played both D3 and D2R a nauseating amount. D4 feels unfinished and bad.
this board is beyond saving isnt it. Ganker is over.
D4 is shit in its current state, pretending otherwise wont make better
They can easily make it great with an expansion or two but the weird changes they made early on like cutting down on mob density is definitely not painting them in a good light
More than 50% of nu-Ganker unironically consists of zoomers, third worlders and schizos from /x/ and/or /misc/.
Why does the sorceress have a more square chin than the male barbarian
I would have never played it if my friends didn't buy it for me to play with them. It was fun enough to play through the story blind. Once I finished the story and hit level 50 I lost the desire to play.
There is no chase for items like in D2. You replace your gear every 5 levels or so, the monsters theoughout the world scale with you so moving around the world just becomes tedious. There is no reward for becoming stronger. All the loot that drops is tailored to your character class and level so you can't find cool items for your alt characters.
if you played to at least 51 youd know this is just wrong lol
For paragon board? Whats the point of the paragon board? To become stronger for what reason? To find one of the 27 (lol) uniques in the game?
you wont be replacing your gear every 2 levels, youll need to read it, and far more stuff for other classes drop. im running a weapon from lv. 59 and rings from lv. 51 because the bonuses suit my build more. im not gonna swap out for the newest drops just because. your guy will suck then.
I did say 5 but that may be a bit of an exaggeration anyway. Point is the loot doesn't feel "legendary" and the chore of finding the aspects to grab and put on a nice rare isn't fun for me. It's almost overwhelming because they just shower you with rares and it's not fun to look through all of them for their random rolls. Idk.. the game just isn't for me.
i enjoy looking at the drops far more than d3s "just look at the name" approach
I only played D3 for about the first week and never came back to it. It felt too much like WoW with a Diablo skin. I wasn't even going to play D4 but my friends bought it for me because they wanted me to play with them.
Not that anon but the lack of trade really kills any point to play once you finish the main story. In games like D2 and PoE, you can find orbs and/or cool loot that you can trade to get GG gear for your other characters. That's not the case here so you might as well just stop playing. Trade is the grease that keeps the slot machine going.
Entering wt3 is a fricking nightmare at lvl 50. I beat my capstone and had just spent like all my mats to get a full legendary build going only to realize that right at level 51 all the items are like 400 more dps and its absolutely necessary to use them for the content. Shit in dungeons from wt2 would do like a sliver of my health and yet immediately on wt3 I was getting chucked by fricking goats for 80% of my health constantly vulnerable and constantly getting cced because they shit out stunning attacks constantly and even with a 9 sec bulwark there's downtime. Balance is absolutely fricked
didnt happen to me, odd. maybe i wasnt throwing out good gear for the latest drops.
I'm wearing the best gear I had access to and only have 985 wpn power and like 2k armor if that's bad at lvl 50 it's because the item drops are bad. They were the best I could find even after running all of the druid aspect dungeons.
ok so at lv. 50 you should understand to do world events for whispers to go get free shit off the tree of whispers. just dont be shit?
necro the only class that matters, been summonmancer since the start and had no issues but apparently minions are "unusable"
You're playing an op class. I was trying to do helltides and dungeons. He'll tides were fine but mo s take way too long to kill and elite packs would ream my butthole. Dungeons are completely unmanageable. The thing is, I'll have to hope I get better gear drops and the aspects I need because my landslide aspect is on my 2her and it's got good stats but obviously isn't cutting it. It's like 900dps and 25 crit damage and 40 to healthy/40 to distant. I haven't found anything comparable. Same thing with all my gear basically. I keep finding garbage with resists or dex on it. Haven't found a single pair of boots with mvspd and an extra evade charge ever
is barb op too? had the same experience there.
Barb is literally leagues ahead of everyone else once you get access to a few dungeon aspects. It's like playing a completely different game yeah
right so 2 classes so far are so unbelievably broken they dont count. just pick anything else but druid then?
The top 3 classes are Druid, Barb and Rogue. All 3 of them are roughly on the same level until you reach very late game (like T60+ and Uber Lilith).
then if i can do it on necro some gamer chad on Ganker can figure it out on druid, surely
Not true at all. Druid struggles until he gets ancestral gear and is half as fast as baby or rogue at any level. Barb has at least 5x the too end dps. No idea how rogue compares but druids struggle on bosses where a barb can just one shot them. Stop speaking nonsense to save face
>Druid struggles until he gets ancestral gear
Holy frick, you must be so incredibly bad at the game if you are STRUGGLING on a Druid.
Try doing grim favors for gear if you're struggling.
Like I said I literally can't complete dungeons on wt3 so what I'm just going to have to spare cellars or events? No fricking thanks
What build are you using?
Landslide. Only Legos I have avvess to currently.
thats not true, you can just make your own legendaries at almost any time. salvage the aspect off your legendaries and finish dungeons to unlock more, and just make your own.
>Landslide
Literally the worst spec for leveling, especially if you don't have the proper aspects and you're doing something like TrampleSlide. Go play around with Pulverize, Shred or Tornado builds instead.
Like I said I have the aspects can't you fricking read?
Druids damage aspects are drop only. Pulverize needs shockwave. I tried it with the dungeon one and it just wasn't good enough.
you can progress in the game without 1 or 2 particular aspects just fine. use others, get more, put extras in storage, youre never out of options. spend obols for kadala rng, farm whisper caches, you wont be able to avoid legendaries.
im starting to see why they just picked peoples skills for them in d3.
>You're playing an op class
Druid player calling a Necro player OP? Holy frick, now I have seen everything. As a druid you can literally just go with a Pulverize build and oneshot everything every 10 seconds.
Pulverize is shit moron. It only works when you're incredibly overgeared. I played it. And I played bone necro. Bone necro/CE is so easy it's laughable. You can just fricking spam a huge screen wide explosion for no resource cost it's moronic. You have no idea what you're fricking talking about
>Pulverize is shit moron
>You have no idea what you're fricking talking about
You can literally play Pulverize Druid from level 1 to 70 in like 12 hours where you're just constantly oneshotting everything around you every 10 seconds. You are the one who has no clue.
Yeah if you're fed gear from someone else. Like I said I literally played it. It one shots trash mobs when it overpowers. Still takes 3-4 on rares and hits like a wet noodle when it doesn't. Its fricking rng garbage. Don't tell me what it does fricking homosexual I literally played it not but a few hrs ago
then go play it again without your crack pipe this time lmao, dont get mad just read.
>Its fricking rng garbage.
This right here just tells me you have ZERO clue. It's not RNG in any way at all. Pulverize will overpower every 12 seconds if you are healthy + every 20 seconds from Provocation. If you know what you are doing, you can easily time everything by gathering up groups and oneshotting them.
The problem here is that clearly you are clueless about how to play.
>just wait 12 seconds to attack everytime
You realize that's not always possible right? There are areas where mobs won't follow you and also things called doors etc where it'd not feasible to group up mobs like that. Suck my dick you homosexual. If I have to wait 12 seconds between attacks while every other good class flues through spamming attacks then the spec is shit
It's every 12 seconds AND every 20 seconds. You can time things and overlap them so you're either always grouping or always oneshotting a group.
You sound so fricking clueless. What level are you?
I'm lvl 51
The game is dogshit. No matter how much you screech and seethe and call me bad it doesn't change that druid is a fricking dumpster class tied together by overpowered legendary es and sucks ass without them. Everyone I know has echoed this same sentiment and your moronic nonsense isn't changing that
mate youve stumbled over yourself the last 15 minutes, you might be the one spewing "moronic bullshit" i dont care if you play it or not i really dont. just answering your questions. sorry you didnt like the video game bro.
>I'm lvl 51
Make your build here https://d4builds.gg/build-planner/ and show me what you are using.
I told you already - landslide double hit aspect. Bulwark duration, damage based on fortify, armor aspect on chest piece, +earth while fortified, resource gain on cc, damage reduction after basic
I'm using wind shear for more resource gain and to keep distance, landslide, creeper, bulwark, trample, petrify. I was using the pet damage aspect at one point but took crows and wolves off because of the cc issues and the need for petrify. I have all 60 skill points so all my passive are maxed. Landslide is 12/5 with my bonuses. It just plays like shit man. It's the game. I understand arpg stats it's the fricking level scaling. Maybe I just want different gameplay than this slowpoke shit. Guess I'll reroll barb
>simply cant show his build
yeah righto buddy
I'm on my phone moron I'm not going to spend the time entering all that when I could just type it out in one minute. What was unclear about what I posted?
>phoneposter
you have more than 1 button why are you here to get randoms to explain every aspect of the game to you? just read the tutorials and dont suck ass. its a blizzard game ffs you cant be this dense.
What class did you start with?
I did the capstone dungeon and went straight to WT3 at 45 as a Barb.
Literally try playing an unfeared druid and come back and tell me how your experience was. You have a completely different opinion of the game because barb is legitimately 5x better than everyone after level 30. It's bot even close. Everything one of you fricks talks about how easy the game is its always a barb
I play barb and I'm dying on wt1
I dont what im doing wrong
>shitter is getting his ass blasted on WT3
You must be incredibly bad.
I went to wt3 right after the campaign at 45ish and it was fine. Wt4 was different, seeing other classes/builds be able to go in at 60 was annoying I was a lot closer to 70
>There is no reward for becoming stronger
Zoomer spotted. This genre isn't for you if you need to be "rewarded".
what's with this weird revisionist shilling campaign? what fricking arpg doesn't make you feel powerful the more you gear up?
D4 apparently
I don't argue with morons
There are no good systems in the game, all of them are outdated trash, feels exactly like D3 which was equally awful shit
It's bad because in just one diablo3 class there is more skills and spells than in the entire diablo4 roster. Deal with it, homosexual
simple as
playing on wifi is horendous. I get the occassional lag spike on Overwatch 2 but it's constant in D4. Every time I dodge my character just teleports, and I get a lot of rubberbanding.
What is best thing to start stacking at 50 for a barb? I'm level 48 with HotA and I been stacking crit and str the whole way but now my build feels weak.
Is WW viable if I only have one of the aspects I need so far?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bN8C_Fe9nrWv__jUc_Vdbl220g4NM0mlux-ga_s_-5s/htmlview#gid=0
Thanks fren
I just look back at D3 and think, "wow, it actually wasn't that bad. You could ally with other players by finding a group easily and do Greater Rifts." Now I look at this game and think they got absolutely nothing right. Not a single thing went right with this game Diablo 4
And I sleep well at night because I'm 100% right
The state D4 is in currently is 10x better than the state D3 was in at the same timeframe. Also, GRs didn't exist until 2-3 years later when RoS came out.
Not that anon but D4 not being as bad as D3's atrocious launch doesn't make it good or excuse its problems. This is such a dumb argument and I see it constantly.
>This is such a dumb argument and I see it constantly.
What's dumb about it? If someone praises D3, but shits on D4, then they need to be reminded that D4 in its current state is infinitely superior to the state D3 was in.
Another point is also that they managed to turn D3 around in just 2-3 years and actually make it a good game, despite how fricking broken it was. D4 is MUCH less broken, so they could potentially turn it around way faster too.
Reaper of Souls has been out for a very long time so it makes no sense for D4 to feel like a regression. Why is that so difficult to understand? People expect new games in a series to be better than the previous one and when it isn't, you're going to see a lot of frustration.
>so it makes no sense for D4 to feel like a regression
It actually makes perfect sense, you just gotta look at the game the way that Blizzard would look at it. Tons of shit has been cut out to be slowly drip-fed as seasons and expansions.
Yeah, but people that aren't addicted to FOMO and MMOs in general don't like that shit.
There aren't that many things that are worse about D4 over D3, either at D3 launch or after RoS, but some things that come to mind:
>no world chat
>no chat channels at all really
>no group finder or way to flag for group or anything other than seeing people in town and autistically spamming out invites
>no auction house
>no dailies
The core gameplay is solid, though.
The thing that annoys me most about D4 is they spent all this time to make a game that's supposed to be an ARPGMMO and then didn't think to add anything on the mmo side except for a mtx cosmetic store that only the most profoundly moronic would ever purchase because no one is ever going to look at your character.
The very least they could have done was add a global chat channel.
I think the core endgame of D4 feels inferior to the simplicity of D3's greater rifts. More tedious crap with less reward feels worse than speedy two minute rifts with a juicy loot pinata at the end. Also, this might be personal preference but both games have similar feeling arcade like combat but D3 has snappier zoom zoom. If you're going to make a game that feels like a remastered Diablo 3, you might as well replicate its strengths instead of slowing everything down.
You don't have to pretend like facts are opinions. I get you are trying to be diplomatic but literally no one prefers d4 endgame to modern d3 that has played both extensively.
I think the people sucking this game off play D4 exclusively with discord friends or some shit. This game is miserable and boring single player and inferior to D3 and D2. It feels tailor made to be a MMO but with no trade and with a community unwilling to party up.
>Know multiple ARPG players
>Play POE every league, played or waiting to play Last Epoch, played older games like Grim Dawn/Titan Quest/Torchlight/etc.
>All of them quit the game before even level 80 because the gameplay, per the words, doesn't change at all past level 25
Yeah, sure, GOTY 2023. Whatever you say. Hard to believe when even the ARPG addicts are bored with it within less than two weeks of release.
>played necro
>skills are fun
>game is too easy
>played barbarian
>game is fun
>skills are boring and all feel the same
i just wand to have fun.
druid maybe?
It's not bad, but the quality of the game does down a lot once you finish the campaign and get to WT3.
So boring. No unique bosses or dungeons, no social community, its just straight up doing what you have already done with higher numbers.
its bad because its a watered down MMO and has an incredibly bland endgame
once the ratpack reaches the 65-75 level range theyll be hit the realization that they are going to do the exact same thing they are doing then for the rest of the game, with builds they looked up online (remember it costs gold to respec and reglyph so experimentation requires even more grinding) and pray that they get the items they need to validate their builds
if respeccing was actually free and you had a way to upgrade between normal > Sacred > Ancestral quality gear and Aspects it would have more longevity but the devs decided to punish players trying out other things
>swimming in gold by lvl 70
that cost will ramp up each time you change your talents, glyphs and upgrading new gear
I think it was fun but I'm 81 now and not really feeling like finishing the grind on my glyphs or the interest in getting to 100
I'll play again in season 1
>Diablo 4
>GOTY worthy
I think it's hilarious how the "best game I've ever played" people that spammed it all over the Internet just up and vanished in a puff of smoke