why did he suddenly become an insecure little b***h?
doesn't that just undermine the player's power, making their ancestor a little b***h?
why would a near-immortal order-fella just get wishywashy all of a sudden?
>why did he suddenly become an insecure little b***h?
I guess to better contrast his whimmpyness with Lilith's qween status. >doesn't that just undermine the player's power, making their ancestor a little b***h?
Yes, it does. Yet their train of thought didn't go that far. >why would a near-immortal order-fella just get wishywashy all of a sudden?
The story demanded it so.
why did he suddenly become an insecure little b***h?
doesn't that just undermine the player's power, making their ancestor a little b***h?
why would a near-immortal order-fella just get wishywashy all of a sudden?
Inarius knows that he's wrong, as far as i know he left everything to be with Sylvanus
The last cinematic was the best one but still sucks at that part cause the new guys can't build, it's like arcane where things have barely any weight
>The last cinematic was the best one but still sucks at that part cause the new guys can't build, it's like arcane where things have barely any weight
I have no idea what you just said
>why did he suddenly become an insecure little b***h?
I guess to better contrast his whimmpyness with Lilith's qween status. >doesn't that just undermine the player's power, making their ancestor a little b***h?
Yes, it does. Yet their train of thought didn't go that far. >why would a near-immortal order-fella just get wishywashy all of a sudden?
The story demanded it so.
>Yes, it does. Yet their train of thought didn't go that far.
By the same logic wouldn't the actions of Lilith in the same scene empower the players power seem how she's an ancestor as well?
>By the same logic wouldn't the actions of Lilith in the same scene empower the players power seem how she's an ancestor as well?
Entirely irrelevant given how piss-easy her boss fight is.
>why did he suddenly become an insecure little b***h?
It's what modern writers think good writing is. You can't just have a battle to the death between two badasses anymore, they need a drinks break to discuss their feelings mid fight. Also characters are never outsmarted by a really well written plan by their opponent, they're written into making dumb mistakes like turning their back on a prime evil
Because Tyreal is supposed to be the only reasonable male Angel.
The rest of them all have obvious flaws. Inarius' own insistence to deny that he fricked up and wasn't going to be taken back by the rest of Heaven was his fatal flaw, that all came crashing down in his final moments.
Until he's brought back as a fallen-angel in a future expansion of course.
No, because Lillith kills Inarius by ripping his wings away.
Nevermind Lillith could never fight Inarius 1v1 and any excuse of "he was trapped in Mephistos rape dungeon" can be countered with her being trapped in the fricking void.
Because Tyrael willingly cast off his wings. I mean I am not quite sure how it works because humans are a mix of demon and angel essence. I guess he just huffed some Diablo-Leah farts before he did the deed.
>thought he'd be forgiven after "killing" an immortal always regenerating entity >didn't even confirm the kill before starting to freak out and crying
?
Diablo 4s story is just your average blizzard/marvel slop now, which isn't really surprising given their past 15 years. >le angels are... LE BAD!
wow Blizzard didn't see that one coming... you really subverted my expectations here...not!
Even in D3 Malthael's followers were a minority of Angels, and the Angiris Council was Pro-Humanity with Auriel being the strongest voice and Auriel was super pro Humanity.
Bit of a jobber wasn't he?
Honestly an enraged Inarius who killed Lillith but did not ascend to the heavens would have been a kino fight. We've never fought an uncorrupted angel before.
>why did he suddenly become an insecure little b***h?
he has been an insecure little b***h ever since he was conceived as a character
prior to Diablo IV he was vainglorious, egotistic and a narcissist who enjoyed being worshipped by his own creations, what went wrong is that Lilith wanted to turn Sanctuary into her personal army and Inarius didnt like that
fast forward to the end of the Sin War and Inarius wasnt just rebuked by the High Heavens, he was sent to Mephisto's rape dungeon for over 3000 years
between D3 and D4 he escaped/was let out, rebooted his church and changed his stance from basking in the adoration of humanity to wanting to erase Sanctuary and return to the High Heavens as a reward for undoing his choice
he was never benevolent, altruistic or valorous, he was the same as Lilith and trying to use his station and influence to be treated as a God and later to be an Archangel once more
theres probably elements of how Sanctuary failed to be a refuge from the Eternal Conflict or that Lilith is a manipulative b***h even in D4, but Inarius was always a selfish twat
I really really cannot state enough how much I want a romance scene with Lilith and my character. I'd create a new Sanctuary with her, if you know what I mean.
Then came a spear of light, piercing Hatred's Heart,
And he who was bound in chains was set free."
there is no mention of Lilith or Inarius in Rathma's prophecy, the point is once more that they are both so self-centered that they assumed it's about them when it could be Mephisto getting impaled by a dude wielding a spear of light who isnt even an angel
What are other angels even doing? Shouldn't they do something about all of this?
they once voted to let humanity fend for themselves and figure out on their own how they want Sanctuary to function, its in line with this that they either dont interfere on purpose or just dont give a frick
Lilith doesn’t think it’s about her, she even calls inarius self centered to think that it was about him, and that humans inherited that attribute from him.
can happen, Lilith as a character is just manipulative and says whatever the situation requires
she makes Inarius doubt himself and claim the prophecy isnt about him at one point then uses the prophecy to herd Elias and his club to her side in another
Deep down he knew he wasn't getting back into heaven. He was clinging on to the flimsiest interpretation of Rathma's prophecy because he was just completely mindbroke and alone. This is what demon pussy does to a homie
Why do none of the Angels descend to help Sanctuary?
D3 established quite clearly that the Angels have Humanities back now; Imperious was the only one who directly disagreed and he left with his host of Angels.
There is literally no reason why Auriel doesn't come down and have a hot sexy catfight with Lillith.
It also feels like Inarus was supposed to be Imperius.
The treaty was broken in D2 man and even more in D3. The Angels basically have no excuse to not rock up on Sanctuary and slap down would be demons.
Hell, the fact that the Angels are more united than ever in support of humanity and yet seem to actually have zero intervention despite Inarius acting up is fricking moronic.
Even in D2 you have Tyrael showing up when needed. Also they ruined Inarius's character completely; He was supposed to be a hopeful naive idealist, whose entire point was "I do not like fighting the eternal conflict anymore"
So why the frick does Inarius fight the Eternal Conflict? And why do they try and imply Inarius could never return to the high heavens? That's a massive retcon.
The Treaty wasn't broken by the prime evils themselves but the lesser evils who kicked the primes out of hell and into sanctuary.
With the Angels being the order fanatics that they are they are going to stick to their end and are going to use that lesser evil loophole to keep sticking to it even more. >And why do they try and imply Inarius could never return to the high heavens
Because the high heaves themselves disowned him, the war in sanctuary required the angels to give up Inarius to Mephisto. Which they did
The Sin was basically proved to Inarius he was fricking right. Right from the get go he was against the Angiris Council and their shortsighted beliefs, and he favoured Humanity over the Angels and even the Nephalem
Like literally every single action Inarius took was both selfish and Merciful; He banished Lillith, a demon he still loved, because he did not want Sanctuary to be pulled into the great game. He changed the worldstone because he could not bear to kill the nephalem, and he downright favoured the normal basic humans over the nephalem because they were less likely to be pulled into the great game.
The entire point of Inarius is to be a combination of Adam from the Bible and Prometheus from Greek legend. Lillith is likewise Eve and Pandora. Both of them both founded Sanctuary based on the Hurbis and pride they both represented, but also both did have genuine love and hope for the world.
Also, they Retconned the fact that Lillith and Inarius still have a pact that refused both to harm each other.
>Also, they Retconned the fact that Lillith and Inarius still have a pact that refused both to harm each other.
Perhaps being banished between dimensions made Lilith a bit upset and no longer wanted to keep her hand of the pact. Let's also not forgot that Inarius killed their son, who Lilith loved dearly.
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Anonymous
Inarius killing Rathma seems pretty damn recent considering Inarius is outside of Mephisto's hand. The entire plot makes no sense at all.
It should have been Lillith freeing Inarius, and the two planning to end the Eternal Conflict by causing the collapse of the High Heavens and the Burning Hells at the same time, with both of them playing both sides.
Instead Lillith is a Yaaass Queen super worldender all on her own and Inarius, despite being like the third most powerful warrior in the heavens behind Tyrael and Imperious, dies to her in 1v1 conflict for literally no reason.
Inarius killing Rathma period seems moronic because they guy couldn't bring himself to do it right when his utopia was in peril, why would he want to kill his son he had a direct hand in making for a chance to go to the heavens that literally abandoned him and his entire life has been to avoid?
Lilith posses a free will. That all she need to kick ass. She is basically human with God powers.
Pretty much, Inarius doesn't act like Inarius and Lillith does not act like Lillith.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Instead Lillith is a Yaaass Queen super worldender all on her own
Because she's using humans to reach her goals, she isn't powerful enough on her own m
11 months ago
Anonymous
She literally bodies Inarius. Something she was never able to do. TWICE Inarius yeeted her into the void when they got in direct conflict because Lillith is supposed to be a manipulator even more than her Father.
Like [...]
Said it should have been a double sided conspiracy, with both of them working to take revenge on Heaven and Hell for the "Good" of their little pet project.
Imagine the story having Auriel and Mephisto needing to negotiate a new treaty between themselves to stop a united Lillith and Inarius, would be fantastic with all the parallels.
11 months ago
Anonymous
She bodied him through a surprise attack, and you might be ranking Inarius too high as he wasn't even an archangel.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Inarius WAS an Archangel, he just wasn't on the Angiris Council.
The Angiris Council were the analogy to the Prime Evils, the Archangels themselves were like the prime evils.
Because Tyreal is supposed to be the only reasonable male Angel.
The rest of them all have obvious flaws. Inarius' own insistence to deny that he fricked up and wasn't going to be taken back by the rest of Heaven was his fatal flaw, that all came crashing down in his final moments.
Until he's brought back as a fallen-angel in a future expansion of course.
Did you forget Itherael? "Let humans have their fate homies" he abstained because his entire point was "I can't frick around because it usually makes things worse"
11 months ago
Anonymous
Itherael's big flaw is that he's a nerd who refuses to pick a side.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You really expect a dude who can see every outcome besides the ones Humanity directly involve to pick a side.
He was the only guy who could see every bad or good ending, you were basically asking the dude to play russian roulette.
Like the others could speculate and HOPE or deride humanity, Itherael was the only homie who saw EVERYTHING.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Surprise attack >Literally stabs him directly and Inarius just whimpers and cries like a b***h
Lillith herself got stabbed by a holy fricking spear, which would have made her really fricking weak even if it wasn't a killing shot; Demons are far FAR easier to kill than Angels.
11 months ago
Anonymous
NTA but I just assumed Lilith got a seethe power boost from being in the realm of Hatred, as a Hatred Demon who was already seething over her dad, (you) fricking up her plans and her boytoy killing her son.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Inarius would have gotten a seething power boost too though because he was getting buttmad he couldn't go back to glowing cuckland.
This is why both of them should have been allied and fought together.
11 months ago
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>Imagine the story
would be nice fr
11 months ago
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>Isn't powerful enough on her own.
I mean, she literally did not need anyone besides her own initial summoning; Her plan was to absorb her father and become a Prime Evil, her other plans don't even make much sense because if she does absorb Mephisto she's the only Prime Evil fully active so she could wipe the entire Hells out knocking Diablo and Baal down.
pretty sure he was name dropped as soon as D2
He was, his background story was made in the Sin Wars book, which is D2 era material, the issue is D4 is dealing heavily in Sin Wars shit, with Rathma and the forces outside the eternal Conflict.
D3 fricked most of that up by turning most of the gods into Naephelem, but Trag-Oul still exists as do the Spirits of nature.
can't remember if he gets namedropped explicitly but Rathma does talk about him and the back wall of his place has a giant mural of him.
There is a giant snake in the game but it's part of a weird ritual and probably has nothing to do with Trag'oul
Yeah, it's a rather small reference considering they were leaving heavily on the "Outside the Eternal Conflict" ideas.
Lilith can fight with heaven Dragon ball style. She is Goku level.
Which never made sense because Lillith was never a physically strong demon, she is arguably not even as strong as the lesser Evils. She was just a manipulator.
I can proudly say that I have never, not once in my life, ever played a single game that Blizzard has made so this reference is completely lost on me. It feels good, you should try to aim for the next best feeling by dropping this company.
Still can’t believe they missed the opportunity to have both Lilith and Inarius as the final boss. Both of them could have been a highly dysfunctional couple that both hate and abuse each other while also somehow being romantic and loving. Like a really fricked up relationship.
Inarius is pure wasted potential. Lillith is 80% wasted.
Inarius killing Rathma seems pretty damn recent considering Inarius is outside of Mephisto's hand. The entire plot makes no sense at all.
It should have been Lillith freeing Inarius, and the two planning to end the Eternal Conflict by causing the collapse of the High Heavens and the Burning Hells at the same time, with both of them playing both sides.
Instead Lillith is a Yaaass Queen super worldender all on her own and Inarius, despite being like the third most powerful warrior in the heavens behind Tyrael and Imperious, dies to her in 1v1 conflict for literally no reason.
Inarius killing Rathma period seems moronic because they guy couldn't bring himself to do it right when his utopia was in peril, why would he want to kill his son he had a direct hand in making for a chance to go to the heavens that literally abandoned him and his entire life has been to avoid?
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Pretty much, Inarius doesn't act like Inarius and Lillith does not act like Lillith.
Said it should have been a double sided conspiracy, with both of them working to take revenge on Heaven and Hell for the "Good" of their little pet project.
Neither Angels and demons are good. They just represent Order and chaos which are completely different of "good and bad".
Most angels and demons are buttholes that would exterminate or enslave people from sanctuary.
why did he suddenly become an insecure little b***h?
doesn't that just undermine the player's power, making their ancestor a little b***h?
why would a near-immortal order-fella just get wishywashy all of a sudden?
Hack writing
>why did he suddenly become an insecure little b***h?
I guess to better contrast his whimmpyness with Lilith's qween status.
>doesn't that just undermine the player's power, making their ancestor a little b***h?
Yes, it does. Yet their train of thought didn't go that far.
>why would a near-immortal order-fella just get wishywashy all of a sudden?
The story demanded it so.
Inarius knows that he's wrong, as far as i know he left everything to be with Sylvanus
The last cinematic was the best one but still sucks at that part cause the new guys can't build, it's like arcane where things have barely any weight
>The last cinematic was the best one but still sucks at that part cause the new guys can't build, it's like arcane where things have barely any weight
I have no idea what you just said
Because Lilith is a manipulator, she knows how to get under your skin.
Given everything Inarius went through, why wouldn't he get wishy-washy when someone tells him that he will never be able to get what he wants.
>Yes, it does. Yet their train of thought didn't go that far.
By the same logic wouldn't the actions of Lilith in the same scene empower the players power seem how she's an ancestor as well?
>By the same logic wouldn't the actions of Lilith in the same scene empower the players power seem how she's an ancestor as well?
Entirely irrelevant given how piss-easy her boss fight is.
Don't play on easy
he still got the feefees for that bad poosy ex wifu
>why did he suddenly become an insecure little b***h?
It's what modern writers think good writing is. You can't just have a battle to the death between two badasses anymore, they need a drinks break to discuss their feelings mid fight. Also characters are never outsmarted by a really well written plan by their opponent, they're written into making dumb mistakes like turning their back on a prime evil
>Lilith
>Prime evil
b***h isn't even a lesser evil
Being outsmarted is making a dumb mistake.
Lilith can fight with heaven Dragon ball style. She is Goku level.
Because Tyreal is supposed to be the only reasonable male Angel.
The rest of them all have obvious flaws. Inarius' own insistence to deny that he fricked up and wasn't going to be taken back by the rest of Heaven was his fatal flaw, that all came crashing down in his final moments.
Until he's brought back as a fallen-angel in a future expansion of course.
>Suddenly
Dude got kicked out from his home and tortured by mephisto for 3 hundred years in hell.
Yeah, but his home was Sanctuary not the High Heavens. That's what makes no sense.
he made his home Sanctuary
he then got booted out from it, same as Lilith, and ended up in Mephisto's rape dungeon for 3000 years
are you slow anon
At least you get his wings.
Holy shit this can't be real
Lol
It's true.
If you want your character to have golden wings, in the previous game, then pay extra.
they just don't care
>his wings
did blizzard just forget angels in diablo ARE the wings? they're beings of energy.
No, because Lillith kills Inarius by ripping his wings away.
Nevermind Lillith could never fight Inarius 1v1 and any excuse of "he was trapped in Mephistos rape dungeon" can be countered with her being trapped in the fricking void.
>kills Inarius by ripping his wings away.
So why didn't he turned human like Tyrael?
because she also stabbed him
Or maybe he did turned human and fell to hell instead.
Because Tyrael willingly cast off his wings. I mean I am not quite sure how it works because humans are a mix of demon and angel essence. I guess he just huffed some Diablo-Leah farts before he did the deed.
>inarius murloc pet
incredibly disrespectful
Is... is he alright?
He can be reborn
Can he?
I admit not knowing jack about Diablo story, but wasn't he on his own; being a fallen angel?
Nothing so far says a fallen angel can't come back, but it won't be the same angel.
>thought he'd be forgiven after "killing" an immortal always regenerating entity
>didn't even confirm the kill before starting to freak out and crying
?
>thought he'd be forgiven after "killing" an immortal always regenerating entity
And the first born child. Who was also the first necromancer
What happend to Tyrael?
>What happend to Tyrael?
I think he's only mentioned in Diablo IV; he doesn't make an appearance.
Diablo 4s story is just your average blizzard/marvel slop now, which isn't really surprising given their past 15 years.
>le angels are... LE BAD!
wow Blizzard didn't see that one coming... you really subverted my expectations here...not!
You think after Maltheal that all angels are good? Most of the Angels wanted humanity exterminated when they found out they existed
This is D3 Lore, fanfiction.
Even in D3 Malthael's followers were a minority of Angels, and the Angiris Council was Pro-Humanity with Auriel being the strongest voice and Auriel was super pro Humanity.
Honestly an enraged Inarius who killed Lillith but did not ascend to the heavens would have been a kino fight. We've never fought an uncorrupted angel before.
>We've never fought an uncorrupted angel before.
I have several times. In HOTS
Dang. Diablo 3 has like 5 lorebooks of fanfiction.
>why did he suddenly become an insecure little b***h?
he has been an insecure little b***h ever since he was conceived as a character
prior to Diablo IV he was vainglorious, egotistic and a narcissist who enjoyed being worshipped by his own creations, what went wrong is that Lilith wanted to turn Sanctuary into her personal army and Inarius didnt like that
fast forward to the end of the Sin War and Inarius wasnt just rebuked by the High Heavens, he was sent to Mephisto's rape dungeon for over 3000 years
between D3 and D4 he escaped/was let out, rebooted his church and changed his stance from basking in the adoration of humanity to wanting to erase Sanctuary and return to the High Heavens as a reward for undoing his choice
he was never benevolent, altruistic or valorous, he was the same as Lilith and trying to use his station and influence to be treated as a God and later to be an Archangel once more
theres probably elements of how Sanctuary failed to be a refuge from the Eternal Conflict or that Lilith is a manipulative b***h even in D4, but Inarius was always a selfish twat
But he fricked Lilith though yeah? He bred that demon pussy and populated Sanctuary?
Well not all of it but they had children. Rathma being one of them
I really really cannot state enough how much I want a romance scene with Lilith and my character. I'd create a new Sanctuary with her, if you know what I mean.
Ok turns out they only had one kid while other angels and demons also had kids
yeah, he did
he messed up
thats the point of the post you replied to
>Prophecy says he'll drive a spear through her heart or some shit
>Stabs her in the stomach
>surprised when it doesnt work
the prophecy:
"I saw my corpse,
and from my mouth crawled Hatred,
A father burned his children on a pyre
and a mother molded a new age from the ashes,
I saw the weak made strong,
a pack of lambs feasting on wolves,
Tears of blood rained on a desert israeliteel,
and the way to Hell war torn asunder,
Then came a spear of light, piercing Hatred's Heart,
And he who was bound in chains was set free."
there is no mention of Lilith or Inarius in Rathma's prophecy, the point is once more that they are both so self-centered that they assumed it's about them when it could be Mephisto getting impaled by a dude wielding a spear of light who isnt even an angel
they once voted to let humanity fend for themselves and figure out on their own how they want Sanctuary to function, its in line with this that they either dont interfere on purpose or just dont give a frick
Lilith doesn’t think it’s about her, she even calls inarius self centered to think that it was about him, and that humans inherited that attribute from him.
can happen, Lilith as a character is just manipulative and says whatever the situation requires
she makes Inarius doubt himself and claim the prophecy isnt about him at one point then uses the prophecy to herd Elias and his club to her side in another
What are other angels even doing? Shouldn't they do something about all of this?
Their hubris pretty much demands they intervene as soon as its too late.
They don't really care
Deep down he knew he wasn't getting back into heaven. He was clinging on to the flimsiest interpretation of Rathma's prophecy because he was just completely mindbroke and alone. This is what demon pussy does to a homie
>he was just completely alone.
Not alone. He might have sought Tyrael.
Yet he didn't, probably doesn't even know about his situation.
Does the D4 necro react to meeting the father of necromancy in the full game?
no. they can do differing dialogue, as we see in the early quest where you write sins and burn them, but the necro has no dialogue foe that situation.
That's lame
who's Mack?
I miss this angry homie
Didn't Imperius survive in Diablo iii?
Yes. Still miss him.
His silence is deafening.
What a chump.
Why do none of the Angels descend to help Sanctuary?
D3 established quite clearly that the Angels have Humanities back now; Imperious was the only one who directly disagreed and he left with his host of Angels.
There is literally no reason why Auriel doesn't come down and have a hot sexy catfight with Lillith.
It also feels like Inarus was supposed to be Imperius.
Because most of the Angels still don't care and are supposed to leave it alone per their treaty with the prime evils.
The treaty was broken in D2 man and even more in D3. The Angels basically have no excuse to not rock up on Sanctuary and slap down would be demons.
Hell, the fact that the Angels are more united than ever in support of humanity and yet seem to actually have zero intervention despite Inarius acting up is fricking moronic.
Even in D2 you have Tyrael showing up when needed. Also they ruined Inarius's character completely; He was supposed to be a hopeful naive idealist, whose entire point was "I do not like fighting the eternal conflict anymore"
So why the frick does Inarius fight the Eternal Conflict? And why do they try and imply Inarius could never return to the high heavens? That's a massive retcon.
The Treaty wasn't broken by the prime evils themselves but the lesser evils who kicked the primes out of hell and into sanctuary.
With the Angels being the order fanatics that they are they are going to stick to their end and are going to use that lesser evil loophole to keep sticking to it even more.
>And why do they try and imply Inarius could never return to the high heavens
Because the high heaves themselves disowned him, the war in sanctuary required the angels to give up Inarius to Mephisto. Which they did
The Sin was basically proved to Inarius he was fricking right. Right from the get go he was against the Angiris Council and their shortsighted beliefs, and he favoured Humanity over the Angels and even the Nephalem
Like literally every single action Inarius took was both selfish and Merciful; He banished Lillith, a demon he still loved, because he did not want Sanctuary to be pulled into the great game. He changed the worldstone because he could not bear to kill the nephalem, and he downright favoured the normal basic humans over the nephalem because they were less likely to be pulled into the great game.
The entire point of Inarius is to be a combination of Adam from the Bible and Prometheus from Greek legend. Lillith is likewise Eve and Pandora. Both of them both founded Sanctuary based on the Hurbis and pride they both represented, but also both did have genuine love and hope for the world.
Also, they Retconned the fact that Lillith and Inarius still have a pact that refused both to harm each other.
>Also, they Retconned the fact that Lillith and Inarius still have a pact that refused both to harm each other.
Perhaps being banished between dimensions made Lilith a bit upset and no longer wanted to keep her hand of the pact. Let's also not forgot that Inarius killed their son, who Lilith loved dearly.
Inarius killing Rathma seems pretty damn recent considering Inarius is outside of Mephisto's hand. The entire plot makes no sense at all.
It should have been Lillith freeing Inarius, and the two planning to end the Eternal Conflict by causing the collapse of the High Heavens and the Burning Hells at the same time, with both of them playing both sides.
Instead Lillith is a Yaaass Queen super worldender all on her own and Inarius, despite being like the third most powerful warrior in the heavens behind Tyrael and Imperious, dies to her in 1v1 conflict for literally no reason.
Inarius killing Rathma period seems moronic because they guy couldn't bring himself to do it right when his utopia was in peril, why would he want to kill his son he had a direct hand in making for a chance to go to the heavens that literally abandoned him and his entire life has been to avoid?
Pretty much, Inarius doesn't act like Inarius and Lillith does not act like Lillith.
>Instead Lillith is a Yaaass Queen super worldender all on her own
Because she's using humans to reach her goals, she isn't powerful enough on her own m
She literally bodies Inarius. Something she was never able to do. TWICE Inarius yeeted her into the void when they got in direct conflict because Lillith is supposed to be a manipulator even more than her Father.
Imagine the story having Auriel and Mephisto needing to negotiate a new treaty between themselves to stop a united Lillith and Inarius, would be fantastic with all the parallels.
She bodied him through a surprise attack, and you might be ranking Inarius too high as he wasn't even an archangel.
Inarius WAS an Archangel, he just wasn't on the Angiris Council.
The Angiris Council were the analogy to the Prime Evils, the Archangels themselves were like the prime evils.
Did you forget Itherael? "Let humans have their fate homies" he abstained because his entire point was "I can't frick around because it usually makes things worse"
Itherael's big flaw is that he's a nerd who refuses to pick a side.
You really expect a dude who can see every outcome besides the ones Humanity directly involve to pick a side.
He was the only guy who could see every bad or good ending, you were basically asking the dude to play russian roulette.
Like the others could speculate and HOPE or deride humanity, Itherael was the only homie who saw EVERYTHING.
>Surprise attack
>Literally stabs him directly and Inarius just whimpers and cries like a b***h
Lillith herself got stabbed by a holy fricking spear, which would have made her really fricking weak even if it wasn't a killing shot; Demons are far FAR easier to kill than Angels.
NTA but I just assumed Lilith got a seethe power boost from being in the realm of Hatred, as a Hatred Demon who was already seething over her dad, (you) fricking up her plans and her boytoy killing her son.
Inarius would have gotten a seething power boost too though because he was getting buttmad he couldn't go back to glowing cuckland.
This is why both of them should have been allied and fought together.
>Imagine the story
would be nice fr
>Isn't powerful enough on her own.
I mean, she literally did not need anyone besides her own initial summoning; Her plan was to absorb her father and become a Prime Evil, her other plans don't even make much sense because if she does absorb Mephisto she's the only Prime Evil fully active so she could wipe the entire Hells out knocking Diablo and Baal down.
He was, his background story was made in the Sin Wars book, which is D2 era material, the issue is D4 is dealing heavily in Sin Wars shit, with Rathma and the forces outside the eternal Conflict.
D3 fricked most of that up by turning most of the gods into Naephelem, but Trag-Oul still exists as do the Spirits of nature.
So they included a literal giant serpent and references to the outside forces of the eternal conflict: do they actually namedrop Trag'Oul?
The game has both Druids and Necromancers it must reference Trag'Oul.
can't remember if he gets namedropped explicitly but Rathma does talk about him and the back wall of his place has a giant mural of him.
There is a giant snake in the game but it's part of a weird ritual and probably has nothing to do with Trag'oul
Yeah, it's a rather small reference considering they were leaving heavily on the "Outside the Eternal Conflict" ideas.
Which never made sense because Lillith was never a physically strong demon, she is arguably not even as strong as the lesser Evils. She was just a manipulator.
Lilith posses a free will. That all she need to kick ass. She is basically human with God powers.
pretty sure he was name dropped as soon as D2
I can proudly say that I have never, not once in my life, ever played a single game that Blizzard has made so this reference is completely lost on me. It feels good, you should try to aim for the next best feeling by dropping this company.
At this point making the angels the smarmy bad guys feels so fricking cliche
Especially because we literally dealt with the angels being Human-hating and low IQ in D3.
The only angels that exist on the Angiris Council are two who approve of the Humans and one who is a grumpy bastard but saw how Malthael failed.
Bring back the Chad angel.
>Death is beyond your reach.
Still can’t believe they missed the opportunity to have both Lilith and Inarius as the final boss. Both of them could have been a highly dysfunctional couple that both hate and abuse each other while also somehow being romantic and loving. Like a really fricked up relationship.
Inarius is pure wasted potential. Lillith is 80% wasted.
that would have twitteroids screech about toxic masculinity and lilith being an onahole for an abusive man
Good. That’s marketing. And they secretly love all of that.
Like
Said it should have been a double sided conspiracy, with both of them working to take revenge on Heaven and Hell for the "Good" of their little pet project.
>No Uber Lilith, Uber Inarius and Mephisto to Mirror Eater of Worlds, Searing Exarch and Maven
I swear devs are so bad at their jobs holy FRICK
I wonder how long all the streamers are on contract to stream this shit game all day. Another week?
Bit of a jobber wasn't he?
>Heaven bad
very engaging and unique storytelling
Heaven doesn't even show up in D4, it's one seething buttmad Angel and a bunch of Russian Muttoids simping for him.
Shut the frick up, mortal.
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Pro tip
You can't
I would've accepted Liliths' offer. Can't rely on either of them to protect yourself.
homie you got played. Sanctuary ain't safe as long as Angels and Demons can meddle with our shit.
Take the Snakepill and put Glowies of all kind in the ground.
I dont want a poison dick though
Neither Angels and demons are good. They just represent Order and chaos which are completely different of "good and bad".
Most angels and demons are buttholes that would exterminate or enslave people from sanctuary.