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I leveled the barbarian 3rd using all my extra purple currency and saved legendaries from other characters to give him every advantage possible and he still sucks
what does the purple currency do again? I didn't really see what it did, all that mattered was Veiled Crystal and gold for me.
You use it to gamble for loot at special vendors.
oh thanks, I assume it's the blood shard equivalent.
I had fun. Made a level 25 barb and necro.
That currency was like blood shards in D3. First impressions of that was I think it had pretty fair rolling, got some useable legendaries out of it.
You could buy keys to open Silent Chests, or just start gambling on each item slot for a chance at legendaries, although im pretty sure you wanna level as much as you can first otherwise it'll give you item level (your level or worse) items.
I opened a silent chest and got 2 blues.
did you properly set up your arsenal? for people who don't know, you can assign a different weapon to each skill and you need to make synergies to do lots of damage.
Yeah, but the barbarian doesn't have access to his class quest, like the Druid.
They dropped hard on that one.
I didn't play him up to 15, but i'm sure there's something he just doesn't have acces to. The druid didn't have his spirit offerings.
Not even that ching Chong streaming end game content managed to lvl up druid to 100.
Druid is just terrible. Lvl 1-98... garbage.
Yea it fricking sucks if you like barbarian
both druid, using landslide, and barb, hammer of the ancients, were alright when equipped with full legendaries. I found the werebear skills to be shit, though I only had the pulverize creates a DoT effect or whatever. Landslide was hitting at the highest like 10k per pillar.
Anyone who says this simply can't kite
Get good
>t. WoW pvp fire mage
I did a thorn build that scaled with health and dmg resist and wrecked everything with Barb.
ill be skipping D4 to play Kami6
Didn't bother playing. Was busy playing a good game this weekend.
Damn you really got us D4gays hoooooo-weeeeee!!!! Dont know how im gonna shake THIS one off!
Why is there always a need on this board to turn every discussion into some competition?
board culture and the odd need to fit in anonymously.
anybody who uses twitch views as a metric is moronic
It's how most people are. This attitude extends well past gaming or this board.
It's one of the reasons the world is so shitty.
Insecurity
>popular equals good!!!
what the frick happened to this board
boring slop
I liked it. Barb sucked ass though where is Crusader?
I will be playing Rogue at launch. He was the only one who had actual good melee combat.
>where is Crusader?
The first expansion will have a Holy Knight that uses shield+1h or two-handers.
And he will have a Hammerdin skill
The game already has two STR mains but one DEX, so my guess is next class is probably like Monk or Assassin or something but after that yeah Paladin/Crusader/whatever
Paladin would use Willpower in D4 like the Druid, not Strength
>The game already has two STR mains but one DEX
The Holy Knight will probably be a mix between Paladin and javelin Amazon. Some of the old leaked art showed that it was very likely meant to have been included for launch, but then got cut out of the game. Pic related.
no way theyll let people be a white man knight
Boring honestly, takes three years to get skills you can rotate with and spell-casting classes are once again broken as frick.
It's good, Ganker BTFO
Very fun experience but the servers rubber banding and the minions clipping in town sucked. Yes I realized it’s a beta but that’s a lot of shit to fix in two months
I had fun despite it's flaws. Normally I'd wait for a deep discount but my casual buddy really enjoyed the beta and wants me to tag along so I this time I will consoom.
Do you also meet up with this casual buddy and jerk his wiener off while you both watch troony porn?
Yes.
So angry, so lonely.
Solid 7/10 so far, but build diversity is pretty fricking meh. Itemization is just okay. UI is fricking atrocious. Most dungeons also feel very similar. It has a solid base foundation to start a game like this, but we'll have to see how it progresses after the first couple of seasons.
D3 was pretty fricking bad at release too, but it became better and better as time went on, until it went full moron with +50000% damage sets.
>The Beta just ended.
>What's the Gankererdict?
Stop posting this picture of me please.
sorry, bro. it's too funny.
17 damage! lmao my ass off but in all seriousness the first weekend was fun enough and the 2nd weekend sucked ass, i was so bored almost instantly even though necro is OP af
same energy
>give us addons in Diablo 4
Frick this fat homosexual.
nothing groundbreaking
better than expected
worth playing
not worth playing on release with server issue
not worth spending a cent more than you can get away with
>game will have battlepass and content locked behind more money in addition to the 70 dollar price tag
>cohhhomosexual
haha let me just quick save and quick load here
>let me just quick save and quick load here
>NOOOO STOP PLAYING LIKE WE ALL DO
me on the left
Cohh is fricking moronic, didn't he ragequit Xenoblade 3 or something because he felt the story wasn't as gripping as 2 within the first hour
Fair, why would you play a game if you arent engaged in it. Looks like a you problem my senpai.
>stops playing a game because he is not having fun
Looks like the behavior of a rational and mentally fit human being.
>watching streamers
Zoom zoom homosexual.
the absolute state of this soulless goyslop consuming shill
>AI generated reply
>incel-generated cope and seethe
>AI generated reply
>REEEEEEEEE YOU CAN'T MAKE FUN OF LOW QUALITY CORPORATE PRODUCT YOU MUST BUY PRODUCT!!!!!
have a nice day shill
state of this board
Reminder that Cohh, a self-proclaimed lover of CRPGs, didn't know how to open the mage book in BG1 until the final Sarevok fight.
So he what, played the whole game with a mage that only had one magic missile spell assigned? i find it hard to believe that he simply never clicked the various buttons on the UI, even if by accident when looking for the inventory or map buttons or whatever.
He's constantly hyping up BG3 so he tried playing BG1&2 for the first time a year ago. If that wasn't pathetic enough for a so-called CRPG fan then check his playtimes. He rushed through BG1 in less than 30 hours, skipping pretty much every single sidequest and not even bothering with the expansion content. He took it a bit slower in BG2 but it's still barely 60 hours, which I'm sure you'll agree is not a lot for a first playthrough of that game.
Marketers spamming on Ganker out of 10
Dogshit gameplay
Pretty fun but no way in hell I’m buying it at full price.
Still, I’m shocked modern Blizzard could make a game that’s fun at all.
Worth a campaign playthrough, then a poke at endgame.
They Got 3 months to iron out issues people brought up. If it launches with some class rebalancing and dungeon retools (Cellars, dungeons being more than the same 3 layouts remixed with 1-2 different events) it'll have legs D3 could only dream about.
Having only six skills so shit that I can't believe it.
>6 skills
>1 is always trash
>4 others will have on average a 20 seconds cooldown
It's dumbed down console baby trash, this is why it's generally well rwcieved because they can turn their brain off and grug the same skills.
Pretty much, they even added the console dash from console d3. But d3 also only had the 6 slots. I'd kill for d2 style hotkeys so I could switch to an 'ultimate' for a second as there are too many skills for me to dump one for an ultimate... lol homosexual console d2 remasterd even has the 6 slots
D2 has 12 hotkeys, D4 is just shit to the point that they had buttons in the controler that they don't use
too bad the gameplay doesn't actually reflect that high number.
The APM of D2 is based around spamming a select few.
The positive is that you can build talents off certain skills in the background unlike D4 but besides that, the visceral combat makes it a comparison of apples to oranges.
oh I see, hold L2 and it changes. Still would rather have the ability on like in D2 to just set a skill to a keyboard letter to call it up in an instant to cast because I don't need a 60 second cooldown ability taking up 1 of 6 slots
>60 second cooldown abilities
what on earth are they thinking
it's an 'ultimate'. they're actually strong but it's a big ask to skill swap on the fly with the current system. I'm not even sure if you can skill swap if the ability is on cooldown I never tried. Have to hit S, drag and drop the ability into a slot, then close S and hit the button, then repeat every 60 seconds. If it was D2 I'd just hit hotkey to switch to skill, then RMB to cast, then hotkey back to usual skill.
shit I guess even D3 console 'hold button to change skill bar to 2nd skill bar' would work... the frick. they're rushing this out
you don't need to explain it, there's no explanation that makes sense. it's diablo, not dota.
the problem with them doing that is they designed the combat around a 6 button rotation of generator-spendor-shield/buff/dot-timed effect/ultimate. Every class follows a very formulaic approach to combat with basically this same setup with little variance. There aren't very many situational skills, only skills that you want to press, but can't because theyre on cooldown. It's fundamentally very moronic design. Wowtard shit
What do the triggers do in console? Using one to toggle a new action bar would double the slos available.
they're buttons for skills, they don't even work as slot modifiers because that would make too much sense. it's moronic but RT for corpse explosion was fricking based and almost made me feel like i was playing a Doom ARPG
the triggers have 2 of the 6 skills, D2R in consoles actually uses that toggle for more hotkeys but D4 for some fricking reason doesn't use it
Why do you want more skills? It's an arpg, not an mmo you fricking moron.
You shouldn't need more than 2 mouse buttons, if anything.
even poe for the most part is like 2-4 buttons, excluding the flasks of course.
I'm pretty sure I only used 2-3 skills in D2, but they really should have added more slots just to give the illusion of choice. It would have cost them nothing
Thats what I thought at first then I realised I was approaching the game wrong. You aren't meant to be going down the skill tree grabbing one from each section, you're meant to actually think about it and plan your build out first, only picking up what you actually need. Like I thought summoner necro was shit because I was running out of hotkeys then I redid my tree and realised I didnt have to pick up a Core skill at all, it made more sense to skip it and just not use Essence at all and have aspects that buffed my skills to be more powerful while I had 100% Essence.
That being said: The trees need work. A lot of work. I hope what we saw in beta is some kind of early access rush job because a lot of it was really underwhelming.
>Rogues get a rain of arrows as one of their ultimate choices
Really? Couldn't have thought of anything more exciting for Rogues to do than an aoe volley?
I'm playing PoE2 instead.
I had fun and I', excited for the final release.
Only thing I'm disappointed with so far is I didn't see people ever use chat or group up with each other as much. I dont think the local chat worked during the beta.
Local chat worked, just no one using it
We're all playing on controller. Chatting is very inconvenient.
I can understand the inconvenience for players on console but what about PC users? I use a pad too but you can just start typing on the keyboard with no problem in modern games like this.
which is weird because during the first beta you had to pay to get into, i saw people chatting all the time. but i never saw a single person say anything during the second one. i guess it's all the normiegays in their discords so they don't even use the ingame chat in anythinig they play.
normies just sit in discord 24/7 and never use the in game chat for any game they play. Literal zombies with hiveminds.
What are they afraid? Their data gets leaked and sold anyways.
Ingame chats will die one day and you are forced to use Discord in order to chat.
Everything will be binded with Discord. If you are banned on Discord, you can't do shit.
oh well the worlds burning and we're all going to have digital ID's and forced body injections in a couple of years. Discord is the perfect way to conglomerate all video game chats for control since the demographic is super important for the government (military aged manchildren).
Didn't play but i will call it shit nonetheless
unironically garbage, so much so I'm actually starting to feel bad for the company at this point
It's fun
Post em.
2/2
he looks mildly perturbed
Japanese Karate waifu
i'm not into muscle mommies but the D4 female barb is actually cute.
Not too buff or anything, still has a beautiful face and beautiful heavies.
nice 480p screenshot lul
>necro so busted it can kill the boss without any gear
Necrobros, we eating good this year.
>level 1 necro and sorc can oneshot multiple enemies with their base skills
>but they probably won't use them because their other skills can just clear the entire room with one cast
>meanwhile level 1 barb needs 2 hits with base skills to kill a single enemy
>has to spam them for fury to do some mild AoE damage
what the frick were they thinking?
the balance is so far off it feels like they didn't even test this shit at all
The classes are balanced around endgame. According to leakers barb is by far the strongest class in the game
i'm not gonna spend 30 hours on a dogshit class just to get it going endgame, that's just bad game design
just buy a level boost bro
Its not a competitive game gaylord, chances are you will be able to play the entire game without much trouble, you will kill shit a little slower at most. You shouldnt give a shit about class balance on a mostly pve game unless you are a gigantic homosexual and a moronic meta slave.
i don't wanna play a shit slow class, moronbro
playing necro and sorc literally ruins druid and barb
>i was born in 2010
"balance" is such zoomer homosexualry. you probably dont even know what homm3 means
they should buff the base number then adjust those 999999% extra damage end game items
But diablo is about itemization aka crippling the build we designed for you and splitting it into 5 items
The class being shit 99% of the time is fricking horrible
wut?
Real talk Vigo's death made me sad bros
He deserved better
good morning, sirs!
Did you like Barb in the beta?
Barb was okay and i managed to make like single good Druid build, everyone which ive seen online from some diablo streamer spergs were shit.
I canceled my preorder and gonna wait if there gonna be some fixes for launch. Amount of missing QoL stuff for 2023 AAA $60 britbong game is just sad.
frick off poointheloo shitter
Cool you look exactly like every other female barbarian I've seen posted in these threads.
not like you have much variety on this shit customization
Great minds think alike, homosexual.
they are so ugly i never bothered to take a screenshot
My Necrofu is sick, she coughs a lot.
Get rid of the septum and she is hot.
Mine just looked straight up like an undead.
Also, DFC.
Love it. Can't wait for the full release. I haven't touched Blizzard games in a while and was a bit uneasy about giving them another chance but was pleasantly surprised with this.
Pathetic droneshill
I don't care if you buy it or play it the thread OP asked what people think. I had fun with it and I hope you can find something to have fun with too.
You can't just come in here and be a reasonable person, anon
rate my gf
bit masculine for my tastes. looks like you're trying to recreate Antje Traue
i'd kill to play as antje and murderfrick my way through sanctuary
you have seen nothing yet
Is it me or are some of these characters exactly the same with the only difference being class and hair
As in, the character creator itself?
Rogue and Sorcerer have the same body type I think, so can look identical.
Barbarian has only giga chads/muscle mommies, necros have only malnourished string beans with DFC, and druids are fat. But like strong fat like if they slapped you it'd knock a few teeth out.
If you mean limited character customisation, yeah it isnt that complicated. There's only 3 face types for each of the 4 class body types, then you choose eye, skin and hair colour, hair style, israeliteellery and tattoos + makeup. And facial hair. There isnt much more than that. No sliders or anything. It is an isometric game where your character is cladded out in armour 90% of the time at the end of the day
6/10 Very pretty game and looks like they wanna try and have atmosphere again but the gearing is dangerously close to BIG NUMBER BETTER like destiny. Stats barely seem to matter, including +1 to skills
It'll still sell 10m copies because morons cant help themselves though so who gives a frick honestly
7/10 if barb and druid arent trash on release itll be a solid 8 also ahem
I WANNA FRICK FEMALE NECRO I WANNA LICK THIS ABS I WANNA HOLD HER TWITCHING BODY I WANNA TOUCH HER FLAT CHEST
complete shit. Its a watered down mmo with arpg elements and completely empty open world elements. Its peak goyslop
>completely empty open world
I don't know why people keep repeating this. It's the exact opposite. The world is fricking packed to the brim, but the problem is that 90% of the POIs are boring as frick.
>walk between locations
>3 mobs, a couple bushes, and a cellar
>make it to the next town with 2min walk
>same thing to the next town
you are fricking high off your ass. WoW takes hours to traverse whereas this game takes literal minutes and is populated with sparse trash mobs and a few dogecoin fountains. It's a complete fricking joke. D2s map areas were bigger than this and had more content/mobs. I could fricking load up d2r right now and the stroll through to the fricking monastery would be 10x as long and 10x as diverse with different mobs and different environments
>you are fricking high off your ass
It is an objective fact that there's literally like 200 different POIs just in Act 1. The problem is that 190 of them are boring. A complaint like "the world is empty" doesn't make sense in this regard, it should be "the world is boring" if anything.
it is not an objective fact you fricking homosexual moron. There are exactly 23 dungeons, and 3 strongholds in Act 1. 7 waypoints. That's a far fricking cry from 200 you just pulled out your gaming pozzed butthole.
Guess how many locations are in diablo 2 act 1? 23. 23 large zones with their own themes, bosses and tons more mobs. For a game genre primarily revolving around killing monsters D4 seems to pre-occupy a ton of unecessary time on site seeing and random ass bullshit.
>it is not an objective fact you fricking homosexual moron. There are exactly 23 dungeons, and 3 strongholds in Act 1. 7 waypoints. That's a far fricking cry from 200 you just pulled out your gaming pozzed butthole.
You are just a fricking moron who doesn't know what a point of interest is. It's that simple.
Act 1 has 7 waypoints, 3 strongholds, 35 side quests, 77 POIs to discover, 23 side dungeons, 28 Altars of Lilith, countless public events all over the polace, countless "cellars", a world boss, and the whole Act 1 main story. The world is not empty, it's packed, but boring.
>Act 1 has (...)
do you have to repeat it from zero each season? if yes then frick that
Aren't seasons just about being high level? you don't have to do all the content if don't want to.
But doing this shit gives you skillpoints and other bonuses
>muh cheevo hunting in an arpg
Who gives a frick about pois you blithering moron? ffs
>muh story
okay this has nothing to do with anything
>28 altars
ooooo wow, now im obligated to fill out my entire zone map just for character progression. In a game about killing monsters, d4 seems to spend an awful lot of time forcing me to walk the theme park
>cellars
single room, with 5 mobs is not content
>public events
mmmm yesss, let me get my gacha coins from the loot pinata event in my arpg
You are the moron here. I am agreeing with you that they are shitty POIs, but they are right there in the world, thus the world can objectively and factually not be considered "empty".
> It's empty.
It isn't.
> IT IS! WAA!
> It isn't because . . .
> Uhh, ahhh, ummm... well it's boring!
Which is what he said at the beginning.
You are too far gone for meds. This kind of schizoid embolism is terminal.
I mean empty as in the mob density moron. There's absolutely frick all to do within the context of an arpg in the game world. The dungeons suck and the overworld is sparsely populated. I could give two shits about your cope with the mmo aspects because i dont want those in my fricking arpgs
If you're after walking long distances, leave your room and go for a hike.
I dont get it
I started on hard. Literally everything died from the base skill of my Sorcerer (chain lighting). What is the point of mechanics, open world, everything?
I was just running, spamming this spell, not even close do dying. I was already bored out of my mind by the end of beta. I honestly dont get it what was fun about it.
>I started on hard.
>Sorcerer
overrated/10
>muh art aesthetic!
does not make a game. awful content churn and b***h-busted class design. the 2 death knells for any arpg.
Had fun with sorc but there's def a huge amount of work that needs to be done in all places. Honestly, game should be delayed like 1 year to really let it cook.
Better than expected.
Dungeons are really, really boring.
Better then D3, i like the MMO style. It's a solid 7/10 because there is nothing better nowadays.
Probably a bit expensive but i bought it anyway.
incredibly dull
everyone coping that blizzard is going to redo all talent and masteries in 2 months cuz beta
paragon talents will be just as brain dead "+% crit/dmg/dmgReduc/resrouce"
absolute 0 innovation for a 10 year game, actually impressive
Take me back to my childhood.
this, but i'm older than you and played D2 as a kid.
For my generation it was D2, WC3, D3
>literally looks like one of those cheap generic korean f2p
Get it right at least you donkey molester.
I played for about an hour before I quit. It just wasn't clicking for me.
I love ARPGs. They are one of my favorite genres. I played Diablo 1, Diablo 2, and Diablo 3 on release, playing each for thousands of hours. I played PoE on release, and have played every single league since release, reaching 100 multiple times.
Something about Diablo 4 just put me off. I was bored. It felt slow and sluggish, like I was playing a generic, washed-out MMO that happened to have a Diablo layer-of-paint sloppily thrown on. I was dreading every "discovery" - didn't care about the dialogue, not interested in exploring each new area, and was annoyed at how much traveling and talking there was.
Obviously, early-game is like this in many ARPGs, and as other people have noted, late-game will likely play very different, so that may help my enjoyment level.
I'll probably play Diablo 4 when it launches either way, especially if my ARPG buddies are doing it and I feel left out. I was also wrong about Diablo 3 - initially, it didn't really click for me either, but I ending up enjoying it a lot more than I anticipated, and we got a couple of years of enjoyment out of it.
Necromancer is the only class I think is cool. I will skip the game unless friends want to play it with me.
big diablo fan and i didnt prepurchase or download beta, and not buying
it doesn't look, seem, or feel anything like diablo to me. it just seems like some corporate live service game wearing its name like a mask.
oh well, life goes on.
have you ever heard of the term "don't judge a book by its cover"?
Perhaps you're old and jaded and projecting what is and isn't Diablo, when inherently the core of Diablo is the ACTION in ACTION RPG.
If you're sitting on the sidelines and not experiencing the game firsthand with your own gameplay you have nothing to say.
in this case, the cover is grimdark esoteric and foreboding, but the book is a children's book.
>it doesn't look, seem, or feel anything like diablo to me
This.
It looks like every korean grind mmo shat out the last 10 years. Say what you will about D2/wow, but at least they're both visually unique to a point where you're never in doubt what game you're looking at.
Boring as frick.
I only managed to play Sorceress for a bit - is it just me, or do the skills really lack oomph? Red arrow, blue arrow, bouncing blue arrow, and probably the worst offender, an iconic skill like Blizzard, which looked like ctrl+c ctrl+v ice arrow, then changed the direction they aim at. I read somewhere that "spell intensity" might be a thing, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was a decision to reduce screen clutter thanks to their forced co-op.
It looked pretty, but was pretty meh.
just outright hardcore ripping off warhammer?..not like blizzard is new to that however
no, the core of diablo is the itemization and game mechanics, actually.
if you can't tell how games play from video, you're low iq. it just doesn't look interesting at all. the art style is bad, art direction sucks, music sucks, inherent direction of the product sucks. diablo is not a live service game where you 20v1 bosses with a zoomed out camera. get bent.
this is goyslop.
>no, the core of diablo is the itemization and game mechanics, actually.
no it's what the items represent, there's so many endgame systems that haven't been properly revealed and yet you're here to judge it.
You have no idea what theorycrafting is going to be like at lvl 100 with what passives to juggle and imprint on your gear.
i dont' give a single flying frick about "endgame systems" its forced online, forced social, battle pass, not diablo, grey no contrast bullshit.
you'll lap it up because you think advancing numbers in a video game replaces life experiences. frick off. this shit has no value as a soulless corporate product that it is
as opposed to what? Your indie offline game no one fricking cares about? Move on if you don't like the game moron.
I'll buy it because i love feeling powerful, making builds and wrecking shit. My level 25 sorc and necro could wipe out screens in seconds, i want to see what it'll be at level 100 and torment. I just hope it's at least as hard as 3 was on release.
>at least as hard as 3 was on release.
3 was only hard because of the last difficulty mode and that mode was nerfed really early on. I dont think its coming back anon.
Oh. I thought the point was to have fun. My bad.
>there's so many endgame systems that haven't been properly revealed
name 1 system that hasnt been revealed and nightmare dungeons arent a system, they are a feature that incorporates systems
we dont know shit about paragon system, seasons or druid perks
Still I canceled my Preorder
we know what all the imprints and aspects are already are you daft? We also know the paragon board is just generic % buffs.
oh you know all the passives? great! you figured out the video game! no theorycrafting for you.
https://lothrik.github.io/diablo4-build-calc
Here you go. Everything* you need to theorycraft a build.
*except we don't know what glyphs are in the game
>White male crusader is bad and weak
>Young mystery meat girl is good
Eeeergg. I didn't give a shit about her or her mother. Feels like a modern star wars character.
6/10 it's okay and I expect blizzard patches to make it worse
Why is Blizzard trying to revive Diablo out of nowhere all of a sudden? Jack shit for nearly a decade then D2R, D:I, and D4 all within 2 years.
d2r and di weren't made by blizzard developers they were outsourced
And? It's still their IP that was practically dormant since RoS.
Class balance needs a fix, they need to sort out instancing if they insist on this being a vapid MMO experience, plug up the memory leak problem. Besides that? I like how it looks, I enjoyed how it played (even enjoyed Druid despite it being bad) and the writing is the same inoffensive, surface level shlock it has always been.
the verdict is im just gonna play D2R now
Can't wait for June. Loved it.
I didnt enjoy it. There were barely any significant differences between the Druid's bear and wolf skills and I kept dealing shit damage to tanky enemies.
never played a diablo game before, was fun for the 2-3 hours I played it but doubt I'll buy it unless it comes to gamepass or a good deal pops up
>the core of diablo is the itemization and game mechanics
>>the core of diablo is the itemization and game mechanics
Not him but it literally is, are you daft?
don't respond to posts like that, he knows he's wrong and posted a shitpost just to get attention. stop replying to shitposts and garbage tier posts without information, opinions, or anything in them.
youre feeding rats. encouragig these people to come here
its pointless for it to be as PoE has taken on that mantle much better than diablo possibly ever could. Diablo should just embrace being an arcadey fun action arpg now and leave the complex mechanics and systems to PoE
Anyone else had problems with texture loading and rubber banding? Seeing my sorceress teleport backwards 100 meters and dropping out of the sky sometimes was fun but textures being late to load wasn't.
I only had rubber banding during leveling up and when going through new areas
Yeah that's what I was talking about, not a big issue but they really need to look into that before release.
The textures thing happened when the game decided to transition into this isometric cutscene thing when you arrive in the main city and talk with this guy who came with you.
My PC from 2018 was sweating more than usual
I did have some slow loading textures and lag/rubber banding. The lag mostly happened when I was entering or exiting the main city, or when I was entering or exiting a cellar/dungeon.
The dialogue interactions with npcs feels really dated the way the camera does that auto zoom every single time you speak to someone. It somehow feels dated but also kinda new. My necro's skellies also had some clipping issues and the game doesn't feel optimized like most Blizzard games usually are. I like the aesthetic more than D3 and the combat is kinda fun but overall it's like a 6 or 7/10 game.
>beta btw
>not a demo
They disabled the bug report during the free open beta, I wonder why...
You did get at least level 20 for your wolf backpack, right anons?
Yes.
But with the delusional pricing here in Australia, it will be a while before I take it out for a spin.
I think the game isn't going to hit blizzard's sales targets and microsoft will make it f2p in about 2 years
it'll still sell well and won't fail, but it won't sell a ton like d3 did. nobody seems excited about it at all. people are like "yeah i'll play it!" but there's zero actual excitement, and tons of people like me, who bought every diablo day 1, have abandoned this company totally.
blizzard is a chud company now, you're not allowed to like their games in the normie-sphere now.
doesn't feel like diablo
feels like a mobile game mmo
pretty boring
>Six skills
It's BORING.
Cool game design Blizzard. I can't take niche utility skills because I have no extra slots so every skill circle is basically pick 1 and take some passives.
how robust is the character creator?, can I completely alter every aspect of it like in elden ring/nioh and make a barbarian that isnt a huge beefcake?, or do I have to play with certain archetypes?
No, you get some faces, haird and a cool tatto to choose and nothing more, the bodies are the same
So I cant make a muscle wizard?, boo
Didn't Diablo Immortal make 12 million dollars in fricking two weeks?
You motherfrickers underestimate how fricking stupid, goy-minded, consumer-enslaved the vast majority of people are on this planet. This is not going to flop. In fact, the beta helped a vast majority of morons to instant-buy as they got whirlwinded into the FOTM atmosphere the beta weekend provided.
If e-celebs aren't shitting on this game en masse to feed these morons the consensus they should follow, then this game is going to make a killing.
Normies will definitely eat it up. They will crawl over each other to get that special 120$ edition.
>t.nogames
>This is not going to flop. In fact, the beta helped a vast majority of morons to instant-buy as they got whirlwinded
I know someone who bought it just to try it during the first beta. He couldn't wait 7 days. Crazy. He then found reason to think this was a good buy, despite the fact is clearly and overpriced game.
The dungeons and cellars were boring as frick. And why, when you beat them, was there no reward beyond some class trait for a class you don't likely play?
Absolutely bizarre.
Hand it over. That thing, your....dark souls.......
it's a free to play MMO that has a $70 price tag and battle pass. it will also probably release new classes like Overwatch and require you buy them. there's just nothing about this game that's worth $70+. itemization sucks, most of the classes suck, the endgame is just Diablo 3 bounties but now in an open world.
Good game. A lot better than I expected. Needs some time in the oven though.
Goyslop. Literally. It's boring, generic, uninteresting and apparently it's going to be extremely expensive. Certified goyslop.
>Goyslop. Literally. It's boring, generic, uninteresting and apparently it's going to be extremely expensive. Certified goyslop.
He' right
I'm not slurping your slop, shekelstein.
Look, basically I'm just not gonna buy your slop I Know..... UGH I know... It's just that I'm not gonna but it is all HAHAHAHAHRHAHAHA HARAHARHARH.
This but for Resident Evil 4 Remake
imagine unironically being a pajeet shill, paid minimum wage to outrage market for vapid corporate garbage on a [random country] [obscure interest] website.
>overtuned
>trivialize
>trannies
You should add these to the image.
it's ok but not worth the money, maybe on sale
Frick the mmo shit. Only way im playing it is if they do a console port that rips out the gayass online only shit, but even then it would likely be only on drmbox so il just fricking pass entirely.
It's just not interesting. They are struggling to keep up and retrace their steps with a 20 year-old concept when they should have long since evolved past that concept. The enduring consequences of closing down Blizzard North.
Kind of boring honestly. UI was also annoying and looked bad, could tell from a first glance that it was made for consolegays
The didn't go back to D2-style. It's D3 and Immortal-style. Much more like Torchlight than Diablo 2. Definitely 'Chinese market in mind'-developed.
It's Grim Dawn-tier. Good. But not great. I'd rather play PoE.
Blizzard games are not available in China.
Since the start of this year. Do you think D4 started development in February?
>Nostalgia and franchise recognition are incredibly potent modifiers that can put a polished turd up on an untouchable pedestal.
True but I'm not sure why you're talking about diablo 2 right now
Slop game. Blizzdrones will buy it en masse and drop it after a month once they realize it's dogshit like every other modern blizz release. Rinse and repeat.
Disappointed by the lack of skill slots. I know it won't be fixed because everything else is balanced around that limitation. I feel like I've already seen all there is to the game.
Lost Ark is unironically superior to this game in every way from a gameplay perspective.
Amazon Black personified half the NPCs and took out all the breasts and ass—bringing it nearly to the same pozzed state we see in D4 where hair style 1 and 2 are for chimps—but because there was no MUH NOSTALGIA factor to buoy it the game sank.
Nostalgia and franchise recognition are incredibly potent modifiers that can put a polished turd up on an untouchable pedestal. Diablo 4 doesn't deserve the success it'll have.
I can't agree with this.
I enjoy the models and combat in lost ark but there's just something missing. I've been trying to enjoy Lost Ark to fill my ARPG void but even cute e-girl artist can't make me get into the game. I have a feeling its way more fun with friends but I'm a solo player and Diablo and POE are just much better solo games.
you're forced to have alts and play with groups in Lost Ark. D4 is a solo chad main character game.
alts are a psyop they never pay off
Necro is OP as frick and will be nerfed to the ground (perma invincible self corpse explodonmg item)
Sorc is powerful but no severe nerf needed
Rogue is squishy but playable
Barb needs love
Druid needs deleting and starting over
Necros problem is that CE can be used anytime and it destroys everything from a kilometer so there is not need to use anything else
They will add an essence cost to it but it'll make it feel like shit.
Even if they do, you can just use blood mist and it<s imprint and become a god of blood and explosion, literally becoming invincible because your mobs`spells can generate enough corpes for your cooldown to always be up.
So you end up 100% fortified, deleting the screen for free with 1 defensive cooldown. You barely have to do anything else in hordes, as soon as someone die you're erasing everything. I also really like building for lucky hits+ crit with Sorc, my double hydras were critting frost novas everywhere. Conjuration's, fricking ridiculous.
Oh and all those imprints for barrier are so fricking strong on the Sorc, why does the Necro doesn't have bone armor?
>why does the Necro doesn't have bone armor?
Oh they do, but it's an Ultimate tier skill with long cooldowns which just cemented to me that Blizard's game designers are all on crack.
That aspect for blood mist will get heavy nerfed, atleast the cooldown reduction part
Its less balance, but more damage multipler stacking itemization and so many skills feel like shit that are only less-shit because of a legendary. Its like D3, you play based on what legendaries/sets drops. Instead of making a solid build that leads you to looking for items that compliment it. Right now you take %damage vs slowed, vulnerable, close and stack them with %damage SKILL and just roll through everything
>That aspect for blood mist will get heavy nerfed, atleast the cooldown reduction part
They already have "reduce cooldown up to x seconds per cast" mechanic, kind of moronic they haven't slapped that on literally every cooldown reduction as a safety valve.
100% accurate
>only 115 legendary affixes from random drops (21-25 per zone)
>only 114 codexes of power
>only 15 strongholds (3 per zone)
>only 15 extremely rare monsters
>only 3 world bosses
>only 26 wild animals to kill
>only 15 sacred nightmare dungeons
>only 30 ancestral nightmare dungeons
>max level 100
>only 6 acts
>act bosses are: lilith's lament, astaroth, andariel, duriel, lilith, diablo
>duriel won't ask if you're looking for baal
>andariel and lilith won't be your gf
The only challenging game in this genre is Diablo 1. Stats and itemization is a placebo trap for brainlets.
>challenging
haha
>Stats and itemization is a placebo trap for brainlets.
What is particularly hilarious about your moronic take is that the creator of Diablo himself said he only played D&D to get the cool loot and that's why he made Diablo.
That really drives the point home about D1 fanatics always displaying their warm oyster IQ.
>thinks it's an own to claim a 25 year old game was actually just as bad as the new one coming out today
heh
>strawman
kek, changing the goalpost won't make D1 challenging.
>projecting cope
kek, pointing out that D1 was a shitty game won't make D4 any less shitty.
I'm not pointing out anything, I'm correcting a claim you while you seethe on your own about non existing claims you illiterate moron.
>the creator of Diablo himself said he only played D&D to get the cool loot and that's why he made Diablo.
Your game was shit, Jay, get over it.
i played that game he made not too long ago and it was ok, but then I realized after getting the rogue's shadow cloak ancient item and trying to move it onto a more fun class with summons and passive damage to make a potentially broken build, that it simply didn't work, so I dropped the game.
hello zoomer. why do you comment about games youve obviously never touched? kek
Facts don't care about your feelings.
Boring MMO style back and forth quests.
Do Diablogays really?
How would you make it better?, you are trapped to fetch quests on this type of games as far as I know. You can add some interesting lore bits to keep things fresh but in the end fetch quests are mandatory
>since lost vikings was released 80 years ago blizzards class balance has been bad in every single game they make
>people still act surprised and think it will be solved
Had no expectations because I thought D3 was trash and just found out about the beta on sunday. First impressions were very positive because I felt like they got the atmosphere right, but that quickly went downhill when I realized it was always online. Was planning on just playing it for the story, but it didn't feel like the quests connected properly. The markers and challenges on the map also made it feel like this was basically a diablo made by ubisoft.
Overall 7/10, may check it out again if it goes on sale.
I feel like the atmosphere wasn't done well enough. Where are the decapitations, the monsters being carved/sliced in twain and you seeing half of the body spew its intestinal tract, the lower half of a monster's body being rip cleaned off from the torso, and the abject gore that Diablo 2 had?
Monsters just slump over and die in Diablo IV.
I was playing necro and could barely even see the corpse models because of how they added the visible corpse material for spells. I'm not a fan, but I also don't feel particularly strongly about it either.
I can see the appeal some anons are getting from the spooky-scary thin goth necro girls, but I’m a bit disappointed there isn’t more body customization. I wanted a necromancer girl who’s a soft, chubby, lazy, spoiled goth princess who never had to do anything because of her minions.
It is weird you are just locked into the default body type. Why can't you be a big ass buff Necro
>It is weird
No it's not. They're pushing diversity and diversity is predicated on being forced. It has to be in your face and you can't avoid it or turn it off. They know that if you had the option to play a non fat druid, nobody would play a fat druid.
>watched some necro gameplay on twitch while trying druid myself
>girl in voice chat said that she literally didn't want to play druid because female druids are fat and ugly and also complained that necro is too flat (just like every other female class)
lmao good job, blizzard
only necro is superflat rogue is sexo
>girl in voice chat said that she literally didn't want to play druid because female druids are fat and ugly and also complained that necro is too flat
It turns out real girls who play video games want their characters to be attractive. It's only trannies that demand everyone be as unfrickable as they are. Thanks Blizz.
you shouldn't be proud to be as dumb and blind as a gaymer gurl.
It definitely feels like they tried to remove the sexuality from the game, but making necro superflat like that had the complete opposite effect for me.
I don't care anymore, necrofu is hot and she has a cute tummy.
> “nobody would play a fat Druid”
> I’m literally complaining I can’t make a fat Necro
It’s weird to not people be whatever body type they like, if they’re touting character creation. The fat Druid thing is different, even fatgays like me don’t like the Druid because she looks like shit.
Anyone think the tattoos make characters look like crackheads? There's some cool body art designs that stretch onto my character's face and it pisses me off because I don't want to look like my character is a gay drug addict from Skid Row.
>he didn't make his character's look full schizo
ngmi
Enjoy it mostly. Didn't care for the dungeons, lacked variety in terms of objectives. Started necro, found out I could become unkillable with Mist and CE. Tried everything but found that Rogue provided the most enjoyable experience. It feels the most active and reactionary. I'll be interested to see how often Legendaries drop on release because the current drop rate is boosted for beta. Was also nice seeing Rare items become viable again, making trade important again.
FemRogue and FemSorc have hot fit bodies. Surprised Blizzard was cool with showing so much skin when they censored Vanessa Vancleef the other week
They did censor succubi in D4 so they're still pushing their moronic puritan agenda
Is there a pic of the D4 succi?
This is unironically true. Girls want to play as a hot chick. The homosexuals who b***h about too much skin showing on women characters don't even play games
>no breasts allowed
looked the same in beta btw, so "pre-alpha" is irrelevant
D3 Succubus, for reference
ya this was so nice, I usually play male playable characters but these sexy girls making me want to play with them instead.
Druid tho, no fricking way in hell anyone is gonna play that thing as a girl sadly.
it was quite good
Game ran like shit on my pc and swapped to ps5. With regards to necro I never had to touch my mana, didn't get the blood mist aspect either but I saw it in use. 9.9/10 times once a body hits the floor I only need to press explosion while my minions do their thing(and they look like moronic, especially the golem). Sorc isn't much different in mowing down power. I was always grouped on sorc too which took any heat off me, but at least mana had to be used and I spent a lot less time bothering to look at it's tree like I did necro. Don't know how I feel about it being open world, i dont like them in general but I don't hate the idea of it here for whatever reason, gives off some mobile vibes too. Lot of really unnecessary towns too considering there's mounts but that just comes with ow i guess. Skipped the story, dont care, satan's wife's daughter is taking her turn at doing evil things that would make jesus upset the end.
Blood Mist makes you invulnerable while draining the life out of monsters. A literal fricking cheat mode activation spell. And if you get one of the aspects for the spell where corpses will explode on impact while you're in Blood Mist and the game becomes a fricking dogshit baby game.
I think necro has too much survivability anyway. I ran with a shield + shield aspect + golem taunt and even my shitty aoe shadow build takes groups of elites down in ~8 seconds without losing any HP. Combine that with the blood orbs and you dont even have to worry. I was tanking 5-6 hits from the butcher before having to potion with barely any defensive skills.
Oh I know about the spell, just rarely had to use it. But i was doing a world event and had a nice pile of bodies when another necro came up and popped it and I figured that was the busted thing my friend had told me about. Couldn't get it to roll off the gambling vendor myself regardless corpse explosion still made everything piss easy without it.
It was fun but not $70 fun. Not even close
It's a beta. It's not the full experience. The levels and randomness were limited.
No one will know until 2 more months. Stop these threads.
Nothing changes. I acknowledge that when I bought MWII (2022).
there's plenty of d4 to shit on that won't be changed between now and release
What's the verdict on D2R?
I'm playing the original for the first time. It's fun, but it runs at 25 fps and it's making me consider playing the remaster since it's 1:1 in gameplay and balance.
Are there any mods to fix it without breaking the game? Or do I just play D2R?
D2R is better than Diablo II
Can you elaborate on the balance changes made?
If the new balance is shitty, is it shittier than the original? Because I was planning on playing the endgame, despite your suggestion.
Also I heard there was censorship on some of the character outfits in-game, is there a way to mod them back in?
people call it shit because it's not what they're used to, and it makes the game easier
>What's the verdict on D2R?
9/10 game. Incredibly solid remake that's almost 1:1(because the old engine is running underneath) with amazing graphics, much needed QoL features, much needed settings, and some new additional content that's great too. Quite possibly one of the best remakes I have ever played.
Any overhaul mod worthy of your recommendation?
Turns out I don't like it vanilla.
The only ones I know of are Median XL and Path of Diablo, but I don't know if they are even being run anymore because I think they were online ones.
its great but balance changes are all shit apart from a few skills that were literally broken before they got fixed. But you wont notice how shit the balance is until endgame which is not worth playing seriously anyways.
You guys DID play on hardcore... right?
You guys DID play Druid on Hardcore... right?
You guys didn't actually beat the beta.
>hardcore
>online
Pick one.
Yeah, sure... Stress tested server is a great opportunity to do it.
moron.
No, why would I do that?
NOPE
FRICK HC
I JUST WANT TO MONKE INTO EVERYTHING WITH MY GLASS CANNON BUILD
FRICK DEFENSE
>online only
lmao
the insane rubberbanding and lag was just a reminder for me to never play hardcore in this game
No only a fricking loser would do that
>FRESH MEAT!
>reroll
just go fast
He killed my level 13 Necro, frick that guy.
I did actually, yes. Difficulty 1 to farm but then I beat Butcher and Ashava on Difficulty 2.
Granted I was a sorcerer so I probably don't get to gloat; but I don't understand why everyone responding to you was such a shit sucking casual. Softcore? In a beta? It's like cheating at a fake game. If you didn't get the "Kill a world boss on hardcore" or "Kill Butcher on Hardcore" achievements during this beta, you didn't actually beat the beta.
i hope people message you in game and compliment your cheevos bro.
I require validation from online strangers to feel like a real boy.
bro you're playing sorceror, shut the frick up. It's a easy mode within a easy mode that is the normal difficulty.
Hope those are all level 25 legendaries otherwise thats a huge waste of gold.
Yeah no. I died 3 times due to lag
>run up to enemy
>press kill button
I never understood the appeal of these games. They feel so brain dead.
that's every game
could hardly play it due to the wait times to even start the game. played less than 20mins. got to the first town, then the game kicked me out due to some game error.
LostArk4fullprice/10, they took ideas from other titles, shoved them into D3 and paid third worlders to make it. Nothing revolutionary, it looks decent (thanks to unlimited budget) but beneath make up its the same game I played 10 years ago just in cut version, with cash shop and premium battle pass. There are better and cheaper games, modern blizzard is creatively bankrut.
D4 is so much better than D3 was on launch it is insane. I actually had fights with stuff in D4 act 1 and needed to run and heal, go back to town etc (i wasnt playing sorc, image right?). in d3 i didnt come close to dying until act 4 and the story was so bad i felt personally insulted, thanks bliz.
D2 > D4 >>> D3
I thought the beta was pretty good because I was comparing it to the clusterfrick that was D3 and had really low expectations. I'm completely lost on the story of D4 because I can barely remember anything from D3.
>in d3 the story was so bad i felt personally insulted
you were offended by a simple story of good vs. evil, without all the stupid morally gray israelitery plaguing all modern fiction?
That has absolutely nothing to do with what that anon said.
5/10
It's a "game".
not buying until respecs are free
Short version is: combat feels pretty good and it has potential, but there's too much dull shit in the game that isn't combat, because mob density feels way too low and there's too much running around for quests and shit. If whatever there is to do at end-game is good and less dull/tedious the game could be fun. Doesn't seem worth the 70EUR asking price though.
2012 - young, excited new diablo game, watching blizzard convention events, trailers, cosplay, fun nerds talking about the new characters, filled with joy
2023 - young (adult now) expecting microtransactions, expecting broken mess, unsure about narrative, no fun events streaming, pre-release hype dead,
how does i stop becoming so jaded i feel like nothing sparks joy, please tell me something good about Diablo 4
Just get brain damage.
>Went into open beta thinking I was going to be a bear-mauling, rip-tearing, killing machine. Killing hordes of enemies in absolute animalistic primal carnage
>All I got was a LARD QUEEN/Baragay who still needs to take 3 hits to kill a single Fallen and a class with the worst DPS with little to no survivability. Bosses absolutely ANNIHILATE the Druid butthole.
What the frick did they do to the Druid?? What the frick were they thinking??
Was Druid ever good
yea elemental druid was good in d2
No, people that say they were are coping.
just need to git gud, my man
To be fair that was easy as pie in the beta. Just go around in circles without doing any dungeons and Bob's your uncle.
>barb and druid are the melee classes
>they also have the worst survivability
>necro and sorc are mostly ranged
>not only deal the highest damage but also have the best survivability by far
what the frick
it's just early levels bro, necros are in for a rude awakening endgame
We'll see.
But i have a hard time believing that when i can perfa frost everything with a bit of luck(the stat).
I think all classes will be good for end game, because each will have their own version of being OP.
>barb has a basic that gives you hp back if you hit something
>but only if it hasn’t lost any hp
>it would have lost hp because you have to have thorns
What the frick are they thinking?
I made a tanky thorns & Bleed Barb, didn't break a sweat. Shouts on, barriers proc, over 1.5k hp let was all MOLON LABE at me. Dropping like flies...
My skeles were getting stomped by a couple of the end bosses at level 25. I think endgame, Necro is probably not as viable unless you beef up your summons. The reason the Necro is strong is simple - the AI has to target multiple attackers instead of lil ol you. Once my pets were gone, my necro would fold over. So, we'll see.
>killing machine
>lvl 25
Lmao... lmao even.
Had the same reaction, they massacred my boy. Supposedly the class is '''good''' when you get a few class specific legendaries to drop, but I never got those items and why even bother farming when a naked sorc or necro shits all over everything the class can do anyway.
Weird, I had no issues with werebear or storm. Earth and wind were pretty underwhelming, the Earth spells especially need more AoE or something.
whats the over/under they flat out sell obloblobs whatever the frick they were, in the IGS
it's fricking trash/10.
Nice beta.
Server under normal load are ok
Servers under heavy load are total doshit
Memory leaks will be fixed, and we will see more dungeon diversity
>more dungeon diversity
SHAAAAUN
Take half the legendaries, and put them into the skill tree. Game is largely more fun.
Had more fun trying the Double Down sandwich
Lot of people complaining about balance, but it's a beta and balance is probably the easiest thing for them to fix. I'm sure even D2 had balance issues at launch. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of the game besides balance.
>dont complain its just beta
the mating call of the WoW expansion defender.
how do those always turn out, again?
lmao.
you should be forced to play druid on launch
the biggest issue is itemization though. legendary effects are literally what defines your build. Because all the fricking damage shit is on them. nothing you do on your character outside of items has much impact.
>lets just wait until launch to say anything guys
>he doesn’t know it takes blizzard years to fix balance
You can tell them 100% how to fix it and they would still take months or years to fix stuff because they are pig headed
Lot of people complain about balance without acknowledging that paragon tree, unique items and some class quests are unavailible in beta, while trying to judge the balance and itemisation of lvl25 character. Yeah, you will totaly optimize your build around that level of content
D4 will be a resounding success.
Two weekends with the Beta and leveling up every class, it is clear to me that this game will be a blockbuster!
When you sort through the chaff and complaints all that is needs is; tweaking some dungeon mechanics, adding quality of life improvements to the UI and spending time balancing the classes. The cherry on the top will be things like a 7th skill slot, maybe a few variations for class body customization and refining boss mechanics etc.
For your 'average' gamer and ARPG fan, the addition of cross-play, cross-progression and couch-coop its a slam dunk IMO. Being a 'Live Service' game it has got every chance of getting the more refined adjustments and additions the game will needed within the first 6-12 months to keep it a fan favorite for some time (the majority of people buying this game won't spend every waking hour rushing to the end game and grinding hundreds of hours in the first couple of months).
I hated how everything in the Diablo 2 Remastered version looked so desaturated and enemies blurred together in the background.
Things are definitely looking better in Diablo 4 than they did in D2R
Goyslop
bestest looking game right now
You're just horny for run of the mill particle effects they've been shitting out since 2014
Not that anon, but I think the game looks great and really don't care about the technology behind it. It's probably the one thing that I would say the game got completely right.
Got 2 chars to 25. Started with Sorc and was amazed that I was facerolling everything, then rolled Necro and found that I was still facerolling everything, so I assume that Nightmare difficulty is going to be "normal" mode for non-casuals, and whatever the highest difficulty is called will be the mode I end up playing at (until the DLC makes a new difficulty, I guess). Some things are locked behind playing at at least Nightmare so strange to me they didn't have it unlocked for the beta. I did read though that Sorc and Necro are just busted atm (Necro definitely is with the Blood Mist aspect...) so maybe they're aware of the current powergap between classes and that's why only easymode was available. The worldboss was particularly fun and enjoyable. Skill trees seemed simplistic but Necro's at least definitely had a plenty of ways to build to be viable. I suspect the Paragon trees are going to be where the complexity comes in but that's just a guess.
Ultimately, I had a lot of fun with my friends and I know I'll be able to sink a lot of time into it, and having a lack of anything fresh to play means I'll be buying it. I actually appreciate some of the MMO-lite aspects that others are complaining about; world bosses and scheduled/random events seem like they'll add a little variety besides just running the campaign over and over again. Lack of local save states super sucks when you have to quit/get disconnected for the millionth time inside of a dungeon and restart at town, and doesn't let you try out different builds consequence free (until private servers come out), but other than that it's whatever. The price is a bit much but guess it isn't going to stop me from paying it, so gj Actiblizz, I guess.
Sorry to disapoint, but the Board is just % stuff.
my wife never plays computer games, and out of the blue she asked if she could have a turn (never happens) and we started playing Coop together - she now enjoys it, that alone is value from Blizzards perspective.
2 months is going to be a long wait!
>copy pasting Reddit comments
what drives a man to go to leddit to search for dumb comments to repost here?
Thanks! My wife and her mother also enjoy our couch co-op experience.
Had a dinner of chicken and egg while were at it~
Can't wait for the game to be fully release so that we can enjoy our lovely time together again.
My wife's boyfriend came over to play with us! They played with me whenever they weren't using our bedroom (which wasn't often, haha). He treats her so well!
My wife usually doesn't enjoy video games much, but she has had a lot of fun playing D4 couch coop together with her boyfriend. Now we finally have something to talk about together! Ultimate Edition already preordered 😉
EDIT: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
We were taking turns playing the game, but I was so happy when my wife went into the bedroom with her boyfriend.
YAY, more playtime for me 🙂
So many blizzard contract employees on anonymous anime site, anyway I'm not buying your diablo 3,5 the Immortal ark for 69.99$ with Korean mmo monetization system.
you're being paid to say you hate it
>this is the new Blizztroon cope
give up chris I'm not playin Crucible
literally what the frick are you even talking about you actual schizophrenic.
I will not play your shitty league
are "chris" and his "leagues" in the room with us right now, schizo?
they're in every d4 thread
wasnt there a lot of brown people in it?
>level up
>acquire skill point
>put skill point into skill
>only difference is +5% extra damage, nothing else changes
was taking all the fun out of the skill tree and putting it into randomly dropped legendary equipment that you can only extract the legendary affix off of one time before it becomes bound to a new item, dare i say, a bad idea?
Blizzard's scared to let people have fun by offering more than the tiniest of incremental upgrades.
I mean, those incremental upgrades eventually lead to doing millions of damage.
So what? At that point enemies have millions of health too.
Diablo 3 let you modify skills to do different things. That was a lot more fun than +5 damage or +3 mana.
Yup it’s completely backwards
I liked that the mana upgrade for the sorc allowed you to get three whole mana points per level.
You forgot:
>level up
>put point in some shit skill or something that gives you +5% damage
>monster level scaling means you just got weaker overall
It's not so bad in D3 because you can go from 1-70 in an hour and legendaries rain from the sky. D4's gonna be rough. Better hope a good legendary drops for your class before you level yourself into doing 0 damage to bosses and elites.
>Gankererdict
parts of it are better than the other Arpg options. the skill tree needs work in relation to legendary aspects being too necessary. but controlling the character (actually playing the game) feels good enough that it outweighs the flaws.
i liked it, but not nearly enough for 70€
Same. I'd buy for like 30 bucks, but 70 is a huge ask.
Please tell whoever decided to make these level scaling shit to kill themself? Preferably in the most painful and slow method possible.
Its painfully obvious that the best method to play the game on launch is to just zerg your way through the main quest since it gave the most exp out of anything on the map.
The open world map, the co-op element, the extra dungeon and all those shit should be ignored till you hit your cap.
During the beta, I grinded dozens of legendary by repeating the final quest dungeon by just leaving the game after looting the final chapter boss.
campaign makes you run around too much, the fastest way to level is resetting a particular dungeon over and over
What exactly does any of that have to do with level scaling you moron
I'm guessing Lilith isn't the big bad, and she's saving us. Inarius will be the big bad, and the game will be fighting Patriarchy and Religon.
Probably. Lilith does has vaguely African features
i'm guessing she's not saving us because she's a boss
and also the big bad of a diablo game is diablo.
>I'm guessing Lilith isn't the big bad, and she's saving us.
I wish but no, you're killing her.
that shit was so clunky, mazy, and boring i didnt play past like lvl 12
>having an okay time with necromancer
>kind of not really sure what build I'm going for, start with decompose since it drops corpses
>get blood mist on a whim since it heals and helps with getting out of tight situations but none of my skills really do damage
>tweak blood mist to produce corpses once per second
>w/e unique that lets you move faster in blood mist and do shadow damage in addition
Man I better just reroll this shit and try something else
>unique that causes blood mist to trigger corpse explosion on any and all corpses in range
And that's when I started having a fricking ton of a fun. Kill two or three things, activate blood mist, and everything on my screen is fricking gone
Made for brain-dead morons like you.
You didn't play the game.
>You didn't play the game.
see
that legendary is 100% getting nerfed. it was insane, I was clearing entire dungeons while invulnerable at all times, with constant max mana, max hp, and doing it faster than any other class I played with
it doesn't do as well against bosses that don't have a bunch of minions, but it was still strong
Oh yeah and I forgot to mention
>every kill decreased cooldown on blood mist by 1.1 second
yeah I can't imagine them leaving it like that, it was too much
Are they ever going to explain wtf happened to Leah? She gets turned into Diablo and then her soul gets banished even when didn't do shit.
Mom said it's my turn to be Leah.
that shit confused me, not sure why they felt anyone anywhere wanted a more annoying younger Leah type character
lowkey mid af
I never encountered the butcher, even when I power leveled dungeons to hit 25
I played a bit of Necro in open, was mostly Sorcerer in closed. Was alright, scratches the ARPG itch for now.
Don't care.
Didn't play.
If they dare to nerf the Explosion Mist Necro or Cooldown Sorc, I'm not buying. Those are the only 2 builds that I have found to be fun. I don't give a single frick about balance.
Game is fun only when you can break it with dumb shit. "Balance" just mean clunky homosexual rolling for 10 minutes to hit the boss once and precisely pressing a button in a 0.1s window parry. If you enjoy being a bottom b***h you are beyond saving. Comet Azur is where the fun at. Cloak of the Undead King is where the fun at.
I doubt they'll nerf it since it'll be harder to get with reduced drop rates
cooldown sorcerer was so fun, I discovered it on my own.
cooldown sorc doesn't need any legos
If it doesn't get nerfed it's going to be what I'm playing on release
breaking the game is fun, but they can't just allow the broken builds to stay forever. they need to rebalance every so often to stave off power creep and let you find or play new broken things or the game gets stale very quickly.
There are more way to counter a certain kind of build than just nerfing. Explosive Mist is useless against single target and you will rely all on your Reapers to generate corpses which just turn it into a zoo build. Cooldown Sorc need to hit enemies with the Ice Blade to function so if the boss can randomly become immune for a few seconds her rotation is ruined.
Actually the truth is CE scales like shit so past level 40ish it doesn’t matter
Boring and mediocre. I expected a lot worse, but it's basically a reskin of Lost Ark and I didn't find it fun or interesting in the slightest. Diablo 3 was a lot better, I'll stick with that and D2.
Armor sets look like shit.
by design. if they looked good nobody would ever buy mtx.
necro had a couple that I really liked in the beta
>didn't play because.. ActiBlizz
>watched some streams
>music is outright garbage, too much violins, too quiet, shit compositions, not atmospheric like DII's was
>UI is shit
>some DIII trash made it in
>visuals are mixed. looks somehow worse than DIIR. has some of the more darker and grittier DII flaire but also some of the cartoonish DIII mixed with generic world design and textures
>skill trees are boring
>combat seems smooth though
>voice acting is horrible accompanying the terrible script writing
>speaking of writing, it's an ARPG. the less writing the better. too much moronic babble by uninteresting NPCs
>unnecessary forced multiplayer and always online garbage
>character voice is too frequent and it sucks
>something I haven't seen anyone mention anywhere: the "GORE". yes it's there but it looks so bad. the huge puddles of blood on the ground are too shiny and the color's weird. I'm all for gore but it has too look right, this doesn't. they utterly failed to capture what made the DI/DII gore so good and atmospheric
It's better than I expected but still not worth it. just another mediocre hack'n'slash just with a higher budget. it'll do well in sales and be the new popular game. doesn't make it not shit. the genre's stagnating for a good decade and with PoE losing popularity DIV will be the new go-to. DIII's old and doesn't have novelty anymore either so most DIII players will switch. meh
>didn't play
Didn't read
if only you didn't post instead.
>2 months til release
Fun game. I enjoyed Druid. Played Sorceress as well but I was demolishing everything so fast it kinda killed the fun of it. I'll make one as an alt to my druid main tho.
Complete and utter garbage.
Atmosphere is better than d3.
Gameplay feels too simple.
Balance and itemization needs a lot of work.
Open world is more fun than linear.
Kind of boring as is right now, it needs something.
Feels like it needs patches and dlc to finish up as a game, they just clearly aren't done and they won't be by release.
I'm about where I expected to be before the beta, waiting about a year or two to see if the game is better post release with some polish and attention.
I didn't play any other diablo game and D4 reminds me of demons souls remake. It's probably the art style
I didn't like the MMO aspects.
These. Lost Ark sucks. MMO's that aren't Star Wars Galaxies from 20 years ago are boring. This is not what I wanted from a Diablo game and my interest is gone.
>Have the Paragon system make the base classes offshoots, like Barb into Crusader, Rogue into Hunter and Druid into Shaman
You can have that one for free blizz.
>Great artstyle and graphics
>Good story and cutscenes
>Meh gameplay
>Online only (yuck)
>MTX
Conclusion: modern Blizzard. though it's not all bad. I'm also disappointed that consoles will be forced to be online only. I thought the whole online thing was DRM related but apparently not
fricking sucks its DOA, game too easy no buttons to press, there a crazy overpowerd builds already, no challenge
Baldie, you have a patch to releas and a competition to lose. Time to stop shitposting
>played for 30 minutes
>uninstalled
I will NOT purchase the game.
It's decent, but it's nothing special, looking like a 6/10. If you're a fan of MMORPGs you might get a kick out of this.
its literal MMO slop
>go to the town
>pick up all quests
>do all quests in the open world
>turn in all quests
>repeat ad nauseam
If I wanted to play lost ark I would have played fricking lost ark
I was on the fence because of all the monetization cancer, but this is what actually killed it for me. I want to play a single player game with optional co op, not some pseudo mmo where every time i come across an overworld event 5 homosexuals swarm it
Literally just Diablo 3 with a new coat of paint. Might literally be the same game but with new visual assets and content with how similar it looks and feels.
In other words it's trash, I was not expecting anything from Blizzard anymore and I am still disappointed. Go play POE of D2 Resurrected instead.
Other than the limited skill bar (6, or 7 if you're a conjuration sorcerer) there's almost no similarities to Diablo 3.
What, specifically, do you mean?
You're moronic
>go play D2, a much worse game than D3
You're extra double moronic
boring, laggy and not that fun
If you liked d3 or/and immortal = you love it
If you have good taste = you'll hated
David Brevik is truly the Warren Spector of arpgs.
Wonder what he's been doing these days besides ripping off Terraria.
Something about the sound design and how janky NPC animations are when you progress certain quests really turns me off. The voice acting for NPCs is mostly trash which brings things down a lot when you try to immerse yourself in the world and story a bit. Guess the game is only good for the gameplay which is fine, but not worth 70€.
Has anything in any ARPG been broken at level 25 stayed as broken in level 100 or whatever the cap is? How often does that even happen? Why does everyone act like CE or Chain Lightning will carry you through the entire game?
if you get obtain invincibility (like 100% dodge rogue or bloodmist necro) at level 25 it's even easier at level 100
Monk had a literal “you are invincible” button in D3 and they were still one of the worst classes in the game until RoS came out
it didn't last long enough
Demon Hunter on the other hand could make itself invulnerable forever and it was the best class on launch
i remember rolling monk on d3 launch and it was total dog shit, while my buddy was demon hunter and abusing invulnerability to farm a static resplendant chest with a high spawn rate in act 2 torment. i ended up rerolling and catching up to him, and then we abused some waypoint glitch to get to act 3 torment and started selling NPC vendor rings on the auction house for real money because nobody was that far in the game yet and those magic shit rings were still better than anything you could find. they were going for like 50 cents apiece and it was boring as shit so we both ended up stopping after a couple hundred bucks, but damn it felt nice. biggest sale I ever had in that game was a natalya's ring for like $250. basically the only reason I'm even going to play D4 because i don't actually have to pay for it due to still having hundreds in my blizz account from D3
How do you think Blizzard is feeling right now when every single vidya forum out there discussing this game is an absolute shitshow?
fun
but core system in it is beyond flawed. especially because every single build is tied to legendary item aspects.
Leveled all but druid (just needed 15 more minutes for the 1.01 level left) to 25 and if I didn't get lucky with the pulverize shockwave aspect, I probably wouldn't have gotten much further on it due to boredom.
Necro minions were meh and I didn't want to play it as a bone/blood sorc.
Sorc was fun even without the +1 hydra and even beat ashava with her with no deaths. I did get the +1 hydra immediately after from a gamble.
Rogue had really satisfying wave clear with penetrating shot and shadow imbuement but still felt meh compared to necro and sorc.
Barb was way too squishy and the malnok boss was cancer due to fury issues. Had to respect to thorn/rend to survive it and kor dragan stuff.
Druid was shit until I got the pulverize shockwave and it was still super clunky: *wait 10 secs* oh, I got below 80% hp, guess I have to wait 10 secs again. Not to mention the ass spirit generation. Not sure why it isn't passively regenerating.
Overall, decent romp but terribly barebones. Not worth $70 and won't even consider buying until at least 3-4 seasons later and a hefty price drop.
There were several things I didn't like but there won't be anything else to play through June so I'll probably get the standard edition and speed run through it just to pass the time until I find something better.
If they add a solid expansion that brings in two new classes, raises the level cap, adds new skills, and creates a solid interesting and entertaining endgame, then I'd probably play it seriously for like, a season or two tops.
what was everyone's prefered title? mine was "The Goat"
although "Pallid Power" was kinda funny. too bad they didn't have "white" for the first word, I'm sure that was the first combination they made sure was not possible
I liked "Rare Commoner". There were some other mildly amusing ones but who gives a frick about them, really. I'd be annoyed if I suspected the title system actually took any real hours of development from other areas.
i liked it
It was mostly boring and a chore. I won't buy it. It also felt like a soulless Facebook video game, but it wasn't pay-to-win.
>not one new class
Blizzard had one job.
Certified Blizzslop.
Enjoy your single week of shallow entertainment before its time to consume new thing.
>Enjoy your single week of shallow entertainment before its time to consume new thing.
that's the plan :^)
it's ok and that's saying something for blizzard
I really, really wanted to like it, but coming out of the beta I'm now convinced the portion of the population who liked and defend are the reason video games are shit nowadays. The tasteless goyslop CONSOOMER is a blight on humanity
Was really bad, every skill was deeply dull. I'd compare it to other, better games (including the Diablo franchise itself) but what for?
I don't want you people to play good games, I want all of you to just die but if that won't happen then you can at least all be locked into a bad game, like you deserve.
I don't understand why the passive skills tree (the thing that relates specifically to customizing the skills) is so barebones and filled with "25% more chance to crit an extra 1 time on cleaving five or more enemies after a weapon swap" type shit.
Mean while BETTER GAME has you using fun skills immediately and lets you see what cool ways those skills will develop even before adding in Legendaries and the like.
>Was really bad, every skill was deeply dull. I'd compare it to other, better games (including the Diablo franchise itself) but what for?
most of the skills come straight out of D2 so...
Garbage exclusively made for redditors with no taste
>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but its a beta!!!
Personally I found it to be really boring, nothing managed to hook me.
I think Blizz is just creatively bankrupt and lacks the talent to make worthwhile games you want to invest your time into for the long run, no hope left.
I just want Diablo sovl back.
The Rogue is a watered down Demon Hunter. Basically immobile by comparison. But uhhh........you can blow stuff up with the a shadow explosion......uhh......dope....I guess.......................................................................................................
Completely broken with zero thought on itemization.
Barbarians have a legendary weapon "Increase Critical Hit Chance by 80%"
Barbarian Skills all snapshot, so if you use said legendary with whirlwind, it will have 80% critical hit chance always.
Barbarian talent: Increase all damage by 135% but resource cost is doubled.
Barbarian talent: 75% damage reduction while you have a Shout buff (which is always).
Also, they have already produced the Disks for Console, meaning there wont be any changes until Season 1...3 months after release.
based. guess, i know what I'm playing. ww barb was always my favorite.
Is this all the launch classes or are they still going to reveal more?