Diablo on suicide watch. Path of Exile on suicide watch. The new king is here.
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/the-convergence-update-beta-0-9-patch-notes/51975/12
Diablo on suicide watch. Path of Exile on suicide watch. The new king is here.
Diablo on suicide watch. Path of Exile on suicide watch. The new king is here.
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/the-convergence-update-beta-0-9-patch-notes/51975/12
I really don't see this game being fun for very long. I played it for ~200 hours in total by now and there's just not that much to do, even SSF.
I'll play it when MP comes out on Thursday but I give it 2 weeks for myself.
>not much to do
>I have 200 hours in it tho
Not every game needs to be "infinitely replayable" anon
People still play diablo 2. This genre is built got infinite replayability
it still can be improved on
i basically don't even like regular d2 anymore and play path of diablo the most
Its literally competing with infinitely replayable games.
I also have 224 hours clocked on Steam (enough to make the game well worth the money) and for the time being I have no desire to play more, but then, Diablo2likes achieve their replayability through seasonal and patch mechanics mixing things up enough to make a fresh seasonal start a novel experience. I don't see why this wouldn't apply to Last Epoch as well.
>why this wouldn't apply to Last Epoch as well
Because their development is taking so fricking long that I don't believe in their ability to manage consistent seasonal updates. The game is solid already, but they really need to push to 1.0 without stalling for any more major shifts in direction like the trade/SSF split they decided on.
I see your point, but then, creating art assets of server infrastructure from scratch takes a whole lot more effort than changing some numbers on skills or adding a bunch of new items, so even if the amount of work they're putting into the game does not increase, that's probably plenty enough to make for interesting seasons if the work is properly prioritized. For that matter, again if they are prioritizing their resources properly rather than just laughting their way to the bank, full release will likely give them an influx of cash flow that can be used for hiring more people to work on the game.
So I don't think the situation is necessarily hopeless, although it's probably prudent to reign in expectations.
I think they're gonna have leagues
>they announce leagues
>it takes them 20 months to make one league
>Diablo on suicide watch. Path of Exile on suicide watch. The new king is here.
lamo
nobody gives a frick about that
Does it still run like shit? Given how visually mediocre it looks, the performance is unacceptable
Apparently there is a big performance update in this patch.
Then i might give it another try
Performance update has been meaningful. I dont fricking crash the game when shadow builds on rogue anymore.
thanks for reminding me this game exists. It's been on my wishlist for a while, waiting for it to exit early access.
damn I bet my intel I7-8650U wont be able to handle this.
I had my eye on it for a while. Tried it a few months back. This shit is so bland and boring it's a fricking miracle it's still alive.
lmao the troony thinks ANY other ARPG will mean ANYTHING once D4 launches.
D4 isn't going to take PoE autists away from PoE.
Keep them in their containment game
That's Chris wilson's job
this
if you're a non-established title you have a very limited time to make an impression, launch and gather a playerbase. This shit's been in development for 80 fricking years and looks almost exactly like PoE so there's barely any interest, so why the frick would you even play it?
For one its the best designed ARPG. It has the most unique character builds, the best itemisation and unlike PoE and Diablo its challenging.
It’s just Poe addicts who are afraid that competition will finally kill their life support game
Spot on.
Seriously, this could be one of the last few bro tier developers out there.
I can actually see my numbers which makes it infinitely better than POE
D4 isn't even going to impact the ARPG market. It's going to just take from D3 and D2R zoomers.
Most active PoE players are going to play it at release then drop it after a season or two. It'll make an impact, just not a long term one. Last Epoch has more potential to do long term damage to PoE than D4 does because it has more in common including a trade economy.
I think you’re exactly right. Most people gave up on Diablo being the go to game in This genre over a decade ago now.
Wait a moment, the troony is the one who thinks anything OTHER than D4 is good, but the one who STILL WORSHIPS BLIZZARD PRODUCT is not a troony???!
>this idiot doesnt know about the blizzard curse
Bro, dragonflight killed WoW, the king of MMOs, how can D4 not do the same to ARPGS?
blizzardchads cant stop winning.
There has been more bad diablo games than good ones.
Honestly my favorite arpg, shame the only way to get threads is this
Is this another glorified idle game where you just click on enemies until one of you dies and make your numbers go up so you can click on stronger enemies so your numbers go up more efficiently?
so what's the most broken class this time around
Elemental bear druid has had my fastest safest clears so far with the new legendaries and number tweaks, but that needs full build.
Extinction Meteor Sorceror still 5 shots every boss in the game which is still fun.
How's the necromancer build? Does it let you spam skellies?
Yeah, you can also use your zombies to set up a rail gun with friendly fire from your bone spikes that gain bonus damage from passing through your own guys
Yes you can. +up to 4 other minions.
a few years ago yes
Trading isn't fun
Play ssf?
Good thing LE recognizes this and allows you the ability to play in a non-trade autism pool where gear drops aren't cut to abysmal levels to promote trade autism like PoE
Diablo is a tainted brand, it will do nothing to impact the ARPG genre.
PoE ruined itself with poor choices.
ARPG fans want an out and 23 years of Diablo 2 isn't going to cut it anymore
>Trading isn't fun
i dont care i want to know if the item im grinding for is dogshit or not before i comit to it. ive been burned by POE div cards for unique weapons just to be trash
>5 years in early access
>just now added multiplayer
>3 classes still missing a mastery
>visuals look like shit
>assuming it ever gets finished(it won't)they won't have enough manpower to run real leagues
This game is a fricking joke honestly there is no fricking way it ever gets to a state where it can compete with D4 or PoE.
No, but PoE can fall to a state where it's competing with LE.
Epoch is shaping up well but it's not quite there yet. Best class diversity though and a really cool skill system.
Otherwise, D2 mods and Grim Dawn is your best bet for ARPG goodness. PoE is shit and a sunken cost fallacy scam, and D4 will inevitably have something that'll ruin it.
rogue is one of the best designed melee classes I've ever seen in one of these games
Blade dance is great, flow state is great, perfection is great, shadows are great. As long as you don't do any of the gay archery shit like a 15 year old moron, the class clicks so well and flows so well
Going full pet cuck mode by buffing the hell out of Raptor with all of the conditional-pet only talents and going down the evolution tree for the raptor is so based it's unreal. You're just buffing and healing this gigantic dinosaur that only gets bigger and bigger as it runs through the map annihilating everything
The builds in this game are so varied and they all feel strong. The only class that feels bad is maybe sentinel
Frick OFF anon, I don't WANT this shit to compete with D4 or PoE.
I want a solid singleplayer ARPG that doesn't rely on muh infinite grind, cosmetic shop MTX slop, and league bullshit. I just want another Grim Dawn like game that is solid and moddable, an ARPG you actually own instead of being always online crap. It's a good game but I don't want it to go in that shitty direction because they're trying to make ARPGs like mobilegame tredmill bullshit now.
But the devs want these things. To bad for you
>instant conflicting statements
This is very good but they better keep their word, I would like to see modding in the future.
Nothing conflicting.
You want an ARPG that doesn't revolve around infinite grind.
Last Epoch has resolved this with crafting and certain legendary gear dropping from specific instances. The only "infinite grind" it has is for min max BiS autism. Which you clearly don't want and you don't have to participate in. End game is just kill shit, get gear to kill stronger shit and that is it.
>Cosmetic Shop MTX
You can ignore it's inclusion, this is just to keep servers up and appease EHG's Tencent overlords. Thankfully you never have to see any of this autism in your game at all.
>Leagues
Completely opt in, that you don't have to worry about. Season characters are separate from normal characters. Leagues aren't even on the docket until the game is well after launch.
>solid and modable
You'll still have an offline client so you can play around with mods anon. I've been using a hero editor for the past several months now.
Last Epoch won't be an always online game and won't be a mobile treadmill game. Stop doomposting.
Last Epoch is literally what you want you fricking dumb frick.
It's going to have a completely offline mode.
When is the 1.0 release then
I don't know. I hope it's in less than a year, but if they're not going to have it out before PoE2, they might as well wait a while and polish it then drop it when PoE2's player count levels out again.
After the 0.9.1-9 releases.
They've been working on Trade and MP for 9 months, the remaining 3 chasses and 3 chapters are next. Expect 1.0/Retail release next year.
with how slow they are and all the stuff missing... 2030+
How can they be so incompetent?
The solution to that "problem" is a using PKI for MTX. They cryptographically sign a list of owned MTX and the game can always verify it offline. The game has their public key.
Only get said file when the user presses "synchronize MTX to offline" button.
They probably worry that it would be cracked that way so people could get it for free. I have no doubts they'd want to make it "phone home" to make sure you aren't mooching their cosmeticslop in offline mode without paying up.
>stop doomposting
Very difficult not to given the current gaming climate, and because of your spoiler anon. I like the game and just don't want to see it ruined by corporate greed.
PoE already sold out, Torchlight sold out, and Diablo hasn't been good since 2. Grim Dawn is the ONLY modern one to get shit right but people shit on it because it's "boring". Titan Quest exists too but is still a buggy mess at times.
>They probably worry that it would be cracked that way so people could get it for free. I have no doubts they'd want to make it "phone home" to make sure you aren't mooching their cosmeticslop in offline mode without paying up.
It doesn't make any sense. Online checks can be cracked as easily. Or spoofed/emulated.
It's about making it as tough as possible for crackers to get around and how much it's actually worth it. Has PoE been cracked to be a completely MTX free and offline content complete experience? No because it's F2P slop and nobody truly cares that much since it's centered so heavily on online requirements. If LE is really banking on those MTX bucks or pushed by Chinkcent they will frick with it somehow and renege on the offline promise.
So far, and I have some faith they will complete the game and not bastardize it. I'm just so sick of the games as a service crap and avoid it whenever I can. It's ruined many games I've had an interest in before and made them devolve over time.
I understand the mindset, but EHG hasn't done anything egregious to LE outside being slow as shit to develop the game. But what do you expect from a team of like 6 people lol
Shill it to me anon
builds are very fun and there's tons of variety within the classes
Every single spell has their own tech tree that can be heavily modified into being entirely different spells with completely different properties and even link spells together. Like x spells casts Y spell on impact
each spell has its own skill tree
dunno why arpgs didnt think of this sooner tbqh, streamlines the autism that poe has with building around a single skill
What difference does it make how many players these games have?
I played this up until i got to the map autism and then deleted it. The map shit was beyond boring
I like this game. I don't like PoE because it doesn't show damage numbers. Simple as
imagine being a dev of this game
one day your boss walks in
tells you the new company vision is to race to beat wolcen to the bottom.
Fuggg. What build is everyone playing? Still can't decide between a shaman with 2-handed weapons or a summoner.
I'm figuring out how to make a Sorcerer meteor build work. I had a good thing going for clearing packs of mobs with 1 button, but then my friends said the build was awful for bossing so I'm going back to the drawing board.
Extinction Meteor is great for bossing, your friends are moronic.
Go down the talents for guaranteed crit, damage based on mana cost, one single big meteor and then get the teleport skills that make your next spell free and do bonus damage. You basically play to one-shot the boss with free big meteors. You crit for 20k by act 2 with this build
Yeah I kind went down the top left path. I'll go to the right from now on. I really like the free spell teleport passive as well as the 50% damage buff one too. I was surprised it worked with the Sorcerer mana cost -> damage thing.
Basically what you do is:
-> aura for bonus damage
-> use that channeled buff spell that gives you free casts and buffed damage based on how long you channeled
- > teleport
- > cast meteors on top of some poor fricker
Theyre going to be the biggest damage numbers you ever see in the game
>beta 0.9 patch notes
This shit still isn't at 1.0? Damn. I really liked an early alpha of it with mostly the endless arena. Played the beta twice in the last few years and didn't like how it changed. Was still ugly with shit controller support, hilariously bad unnecessary story, dumb crafting and awful performance. They didn't even have all characters ready after so many years.
Has any of that changed since?
I've been playing the game since release and never had any issue with the story, crafting or performance.
Could you elaborate?
Story: well the alpha didn't have one, it was just going through the levels and killing stuff. That was fun. In the beta a story was added, it was boring and didn't even make sense. I started skipping it. Story is never good or needed in hack 'n slash. The less story the better.
Crafting: too long ago to remember details, but in the alpha you just dismantled items and used stuff to upgrade gear I think. In the beta the crafting became more complex. I don't like crafting autism.
Performance: it's more optimization than performance. It ran just fine for me on any settings but it would crash randomly often. Had memory leaks that persisted after crashes. And despite the rather ugly graphics it made my GPU fans run insanely hard until they heated up and crashed my PC. Even tested this with lowest settings and still happened. I've had the same issue in some UNITY games and it was fixed after game updates, so not a hardware issue.
Story in LE isn't bad but it isn't Diablo 1-2 Tier. I didn't care for crystal macguffin but at least it's better than Diablo 3 and PoE's stories.,
Crafting is just a nice way too offset shit drops, it really is nice but 100% optional. I like that I can offset bad drops by just mulching affixes I like into something worth a damn
I've personally never ran into performance issues and it sucks to hear that you did. That said I've watching EHG's community streams and 0.9 has done a complete overhaul on the game's engine and systems. If you own it I say give it a try on friday after the patch to see if it runs well
>soulless art
>shit title
I know nothing about this game but i can tell its trash
It looks interesting but it's been early access for like 100 years.
Nice, guess I'll finally buy it.
>performance improved
Think this was the big issue for me, it already looked and felt like a unity game without the terrible performance
Diablo ended with Lord of Destruction and before the runeword bloat. Take me back to D1 and the insanity of D2 necro on release.
>no Diablo 1 Remaster or Diablo 1 clone never ever
>wanting a DeMaster
ngmi
I'd kill for a D2R style remaster of 1
The gameplay will be worse, there will be pozzed shit, but that setting + that atmosphere done with modern graphics would be worth it
Just no GaaS always online shit though, that'd be a dealbreaker
Shilling a project the dev posted in one of these threads: https://osurpzz.itch.io/tower-of-kalemonvo
i didn't expect anyone to ever shill my game to me
thanks anon
Is the knight class, sentinel, focused on one-handed plus shield? Or can you also go for two-handed weapons?
Last Epoch has a really good player customization you can be a 2H/Dual Wield/Sword and Board Void Knight, Forgemaster or Paladin if you wanted to.
I like some of the mechanics this game has, but it ultimately looks like a soulless third rate knockoff, just like PoE.
So no thank you. Only Diablo IV for me.
i wish it has more skills and ascendancies(or we tf its called there), also endgame kinda lame rn
Why are arpg loot hunt games always top down
>what is borderlands
Oh i'm not trans sorry
i bet you smiled after you typed that, fatass.
>durr look at our new armor and skill effects wow!
THERE ARE STILL 3 CLASSES MISSING YOU FRICKING HACKS
>in early access
>since 2019
imagine shilling this horse shit
Anon, people have been playing Diablo 2 since 2000. Age has no bearing on a video game's quality.
did you read my post moron
what country are you from
Why does the Rogue have no abilities? Shit's lame
Because the avatar is a woman
Not playing Diablo because Blizzard.
Dropped PoE because devs hate fun.
I like autistic, moronic builds that are more fun than functional. Is this game for me?
>I like autistic, moronic builds that are more fun than functional
If that is your want then yes for sure
My last poe build was a necro with 20+ skeletons, , 15 zombies, 3 specters and 4 golems, along with 30 shades. I had no direct attack skill and died when a mob looked at me funny. Shit was fun.
I remember having that build, but getting one-shot without realising what killed you tends to take the fun out of it eventually
Summons are fun is Last Epoch because summons have active spells. Small addition that does a lot. When your critter is summoned, the skill transforms to the critter's ability on your skill bar
>moronic builds that are more fun than functional. Is this game for me?
yes unironically a lot of builds work, there's no such thing as a "bad build" everything is viable but there are some more optimized OP builds
for ex i spam squirrels as a druid
>gender locked classes
>no char creation
>2023
lmao.
>gender locked classes
>no char creation
Frick off with your self insert bullshit, unnecessary crap like this is stupid
Reminds me of the morons who want female dwarves in DRG
>more choices = bad
>unnecessary in a videogame
>shit bait
>no (you)
>female dwarves in DRG
but it has sc**ts already.
>also moronic, it seems.
>female dwarves in DRG
I thought there were but you just couldn't tell them apart from the men
That's just trannies coping or devs taking the piss on people who actually want that shit.
the dev should have done that as a joke
just, when you pick class have the two gender icons and you pick one.
does literally nothing else, doesnt even show anywhere ingame.
Lmao, who the hell cares for that? Either you are here for the gameplay, or you move on.
>>no char creation
There's 15 classes bro, how is that not character creation?
Stop replying to obvious bait
>wanting to not be a decrepit old man, a hot topic goth, or an anthropomorphic 8ball
>bait
yes yes tell us again how its about the gameplay, as you only have an autobomber build going.
>not wanting to play as a decrepit old man, a hot topic goth, or an anthropomorphic 8ball
Half the fun of games is variety and fantasy of it, is playing a powerful weirdo really too much for you to handle? You sound like an uncreative NPC or autist who tries to model their character after themselves in every game.
Those are characters with predefined features and traits, not someone for you to self insert as.
>You dont want to play the stock unmodified old man wizard or goth necromancer? you sound like an NPC.
You sir are no mark davis.
They have to try and copy PoEs aesthetics as much as possible, warts and all.
You mean copy Diablo 2, which is based.
Under no circumstances do I want to play as a fem*le
I don't like femoids either but I don't whine like an autist when they're in my games because gameplay always comes first.
Most of the time female characters are made by males anyway since women don't create much anyway in the gamespace.
>i dont mind eating shit as long as its not forced down my throat against my will!
you're why we still have marvel movies.
Looks like a generic fake game ad on a hentai site banner
So is this the epoch before the present epoch or the last epoch that's ever going to happen?
Last Sleepoch > Grim Yawn > Diablo 3 > D2R > Path of Exile
Diablo 4 >>>> *power gap* > Last Sleepoch > Grim Yawn > Diablo 3 > D2R > Path of Exile
Have you played the demo/beta already?
Where does Tityawn Quest rank among these?
I would put it above Grim Yawn.
TQ had a much better setting and art style than Grim Yawn
last epoch?
>more like, last sleepoch 😉
Sounds cozy. Buying the king size edition now.
It's a cool game, only ARPG since Grim Dawn that has interested me. Diablo 4 is hard to get hyped for since Blizz drops the ball with everything now minus D2R since it was outsourced to someone actually complement.
Starting to lose faith in the project. The devs are spending most of their time on MP in the vain hope of drawing in PoE refugees instead of finishing up the final specializations. PoE is this game's greatest enemy in the sense that it infects the development process and imposes made up requirements that the devs seem more than happy to adhere to if it means their game becomes more like PoE. Frick PoE, it ruined this genre.
Why would MP be related to PoE? These types of games are always fun with friends and it should have been a major priority to them much sooner.
Have you not noticed how, at any given point in the game, half the discussion is about PoE? Most of that is people asking about MP or trade. Some of that is people speculating on economy bullshit. This is what's infecting it at every turn. Play it between PoE seasons and you'll see how people flock to it, only to see it's not PoE and then immediately start to demand/hope things get more PoE-like.
MP being the principal focus is just a side effect of this shit. Somewhere along the way the priority shifted heavily from adding content like items/uniques/sets/enemies to making sure MP gets finished. And in doing that, development of the game itself grinded to a halt. Now with MP out, most of their focus will be to, obviously, fix and build upon it and guess what part of the game gets priority 2 again.
They need to learn their place is to fill the Grim Dawn player fatigue as a cool singleplayer focused game I agree. Co-op is cool to play with buddies but should not be the focus over the masteries and playable content to grind through.
I do not want the trade and market autism of POE, the "live service" shit can frick right off.
Yeah I agree. I'm glad for now that they don't make a carbon copy. If they keep adding new skills every now and then, I'll be fine.
Nothing you said makes sense.
ARPGs are better with MP, how does that compete with PoE?
Last Epoch is an ARPG first and foremost, PoE is a Trade Economy Simulator.
I am not debating the validity of MP here. I am pissed off at the fact that developing MP is sucking away the devs' time and resources and the rest of the game suffers for it. By all means, cram MP in, sell your cosmetics and have people sit for days in trade chat selling bullshit but do it after your base game is complete. Because at this rate, this base game will never be fricking complete and there are only so many years people are willing to wait for you.
this 100%
spending so much time developping MP stuff I don't want to touch drives me away from this game
the game is absolute dogshit in its current state WITHOUT MP
They fricked up and allocated resources on remaking the older maps visuals to look better and have dramatic writing and now they're low on funding. They're hoping MTX and MP will get them more revenue so they can complete the game.
>The game has no future or will have potential in 20 years.
Thanks for letting us know. D4 it is.
Why opt for a pile of horseshit over a pile of cow shit when you can just avoid stepping over both? Last Epoch is dead. D4 is DoA.
ARPGs are dead anon.
>literal who game will topple the king and prince
ok.jpeg
The King and Prince already killed thesmelves
Diablo hasn't recovered from the 2012 debacle and Chris "Baldo" Wilson has been steadily ruining PoE since 2017
>thinking people are hyped out the ass for Diablo 4 and calling it amazing left and right
Go on any other website now and then, I'm begging you
>go to websites either paid by blizzard to advertise D4 or normie driven sites that D3 catered to if you want a "real opinion"
No thanks.
>ledit spacing
leddit spacing?
>more like leddit spacoch
game is subpar
maybe you'll like it if you only care about the surface level of systems design but it's amateurish
at least PoE had a moment where it was interesting, before they squandered their design philosophy
this one is developed by people that were aimless initially and became yes men, implementing what people ask for or what seems cool on the surface, without discerning what they'd actually want/like or how it should work or if it fits
this is why people say it'll take forever to be good, because it requires multiple cycles of iterative development for every game system before it might end up good
Last Epoch is the only game with some depth that isn't gatekept behind trading for gems.
Diablo hasn't had any depth since 2000.
Grim Dawn is great and could use for a remake or a sequel
Torchlight sold out
Undecemeber is unironically GOOD too bad it's korean F2P and installs a rootkit on your machine.
is unironically GOOD too bad it's korean F2P and installs a rootkit on your machine.
holy based, too bad they fricked up their global release marketing and committed to marathon style instead of true seasons/leagues
it's genuinely in my top 3 top down arpgs and would recommend a f2p playthrough of the campaign to anyone
straight up every critic review i've seen for it says it's good but that you shouldn't play it
i bought this piece of shit in January 2020, thinking they would finish up in a reasonable amount of time. 3 years later it's still not done and diablo 4 is less than 3 months away.
frick these devs
>games so abysmally bad that people get hyped for D4
its over
With Diablo 4 going the way of Diablo 3 Console edition and being an arcade-y hack and slash beat em up w/ dodge rolling button confirmed and PoE2 just going to be more PoE what hope do we have left for the genre?
Diablo 4 will be mindless fun but will get dull due to lack of depth like Diablo 3.
Path of Exile 2 will be continue to be the chink money laundering game as PoE1 is.
Wolcen is dead.
Torchlight Infinite is okay, you can really tell this is a mobile MTX game.
Undecemeber while fun, does not hide the fact that it is a whale milking device first and a video game second.
Sacred/GrimDawn/TQ/D2 Classic. Everyone has played these to death. D2 has been out for 23 years and D2R isn't really anything different outside of QoL Affixes and Charms.
Chronicon decent ARPG, but god-awful visual presentation
Last Epoch, is in dev hell. 2019 since EA started and we're still missing 2 subclasses, and the last 2 chapters of the story. Spent all their dev time on trade and multi only to shitcan trade. Multi is in 2 days but D4 will cleave the base in half regardless if D4 is good or not.
poe 2 will remain the superior excrement above all the other piles of worthless trash
it is what it is
>chink MTX scheme where gameplay is an afterthought
nah. Diablo 4 will at least be fun.
>diablo 4 will at least be fun
remember this when you go out to farm some bandit camp or whatever garbage is the autistic way to get gear, and theres 3 other morons whirlwinding around named captain_autismo_420
so many people havnt figured out how bad D4 will be, because like how the RMAH fricked D3, their "we an MMO but not?!?!????!!?!" is gonna shit up D4 till its quietly shelved.
There is no false pretense that Diablo won't be fun.
It will be fun, and it will be successful.
What it won't be is a worthy heir to the Diablo name, it won't have depth, it won't have any meaningful itemization, it won't be interesting beyond the surface level normie slop it is.
This is the more accurate assumption of how D4 will turn out.
>Wolcen is dead
What are you talking about, console release + Chapter 4 of...of the uh....story?...is coming out on the 15th. Nobody is going to bother with the D4 beta weekend because they'll be too busy playing Wolcen, baby. You're looking at the next #Laboroflove at the #SteamAwards.
This game genuinely sucks so much dick I can’t believe I’ve played through it twice and made it to the endgame both times
unironically. played through on void knight and rogue, it feels awful and looks awful. maps in the campaign and endgame are not even procedurally generated. the one thing everyone hypes up is crafting and it's just finding an item with a high tier mod and then replacing the others on your 4 affix item. I would rather play any other arpg, I'd replay wolcen or the 40k one before last epoch again.
>early access
no ty
Did anyone played Hero Siege or Chronicon?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/269210/Hero_Siege/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/375480/Chronicon/
I need a quick rundown or something
Chronicon is good. It's like an indie Diablo 3 where you zoomzoom around the screen and farm for tier sets, but it's much better than D3 as the itemization is less restriction and there is more build variety and endgame content.
Chronicon is good, haven't played Hero Siege though
in the endgame you're spamming maps as fast as possible a la PoE and D3 with a 2d rainbow particle clusterfrick
if it was made using a 3D engine it'd be a superior D3
damn so no clue about hero siege?
i played it for like 2 hours a long time ago. i dont remember it being good, and it clearly wasnt memorable.
don't know anything other than they gate most classes behind dlc, so get a complete edition if there is one
>click on thing
>kill it
>grab loot
>get xp
>become stronger
why it's so hard to make a good diablo clone?
they are really simple games
Because they miss incredibly basic things. PoE has the customization but the multiplayer balance leads to boring skills and you don't even have the satisfaction of seeing your numbers. What's the point of ever doing a crit build where you can't even SEE crits
D3 has good meaty skills in terms of how it -feels- but is also completely terrible because of how shallow it is. These games need extreme wacky ability/skill/stat customization
>Path of Exile on suicide watch
Pretty sure that game is suiciding just fine without external assistance.
>suicide without external assistance
Clinton spotted.
There is really no point in a Diablo clone trying to compete with the King. The reason Diablo clones exist is because of the long period in between games. Path of Exile, Torchlight, Grim Dawn and Titan Quest did it right and released in the middle of release cycles
The king hasn't been dethroned in 23 years.
Until this June
delusional blizzshill
Epochs skill level system is pretty cool. game looks fine. Something about it has that unity stiffness. End game last i played was dull as shit. But I don't like endgame for most arpgs.
Unironically hyped and looking forward to diablo IV
What are our alternatives?
Diablo IV beta is like next week. The devs of this vaporware will probably neck themselves before its over
Nah, that's not 1.0 yet.
Does anyone know if this game ever goes on sale and if it might when this patch drops? I got a friend willing to buy it but only if its on sale.
rarely and only if steam itself has a sale event or something
https://isthereanydeal.com/game/lastepoch/history/
I wish we would of gotten a real Torchlight III.
but we did 🙂
How do druids play? I love druids so much
fun as frick
Badass, I see that there's a werebear form and an insect form. Those two seem neat, are builds that switch between forms viable? If so I'll buy right now
You generally spec into one or the other. That said respeccing in LE is quick, cheap and easy.