i dont think it will affect anything. its crazy that an actual wrpg would recieve any recognition at all. but the AAA suits will just see it as an outlier and continue along with their movie game rehash money making formula
Net Neutral. >Fricked AAA projects that released at the same time >Attracted a handful of people into playing games who never played a game but really liked watching Critical Role >Can't even be replicated by their own developers since the tech used to make cutscenes was patented by one guy on their team who shot himself after the game released with nobody else knowing how to use it
>Can't even be replicated by their own developers since the tech used to make cutscenes was patented by one guy on their team who shot himself after the game released with nobody else knowing how to use it
>the tech used to make cutscenes was patented by one guy on their team who shot himself after the game released
Did you remember to take your medication today?
>since the tech used to make cutscenes was patented by one guy on their team who shot himself after the game released with nobody else knowing how to use it
I know that videogame journalists are a joke. But I still can't help but think that if this really happened. It would have been at the top of every news site even remotely associated with videogames.
Did baldur’s gate 3 have a positive or negative impact on the gaming industry?
100% negative. It's BG2 dark age all over again. Soulsborne is indicative of this pattern, genre gets so popular every soulless dev wants to clone their own souls game.
Now every cRPG for the next decade is just going to be horny visual novel slop with shit gameplay. So, like before, just more horny degeneracy.
yeah I've seen loads online of the stuff from mass effect
honestly it's sick what they were allowed to get away with, i dont know how it ever got past censors
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's just the hypocrisy that annoys people.
"we are pure and moral , our fetish shit is art."
Meanwhile they b***h and moan about any attractive women in other games. Xenoblade is a good example, screeching about the ending with multiple wives, but if they were ugly or men it would be okay.
I never said that it will be "noticeably" worse, I said that it's impact is negative. If you see a pile of shit then you shouldn't add more shit on top of it
I'm a degenerate and I agree.
I don't need awkward forced romance and sex scenes, just give me decent passive lewdness and fan service.
>WOKE SHIT BEAR SEX TRANNIES TRANNIES >w-wait.. this isn't a mod? >goes to check price on steam
I'd recommend against it. Shadowheart is the least unattractive of the companions, the only way to create a fully custom party is through a janky workaround, and there's very few attractive character customization options.
I'm just glad it happened now. I just know I don't have to waste the next 10-20 years anticipating CRPGs anymore, so I'm effectively done with the franchise now. Great for those who like it though.
lol it’s a better dragon age sequel than any of the other ones. It’s easier, it’s sexier(? I mean I saw reverse cowgirl), it’s filled to the brim with content like an over ripened maggot. It fills the hole that BioWare’s studded codpiece left.
net positive >full game released, no day 1 dlc, no microtransactions >continuous support from devs, even included an epilogue at player's request >quality RPG that blew all other RPGs released this year out of the water
>early access games now have an example to follow whereby they listen to player feedback and use the money they get to improve the game instead of milking it and releasing a half-baked turd and running off with the bag when they get bored
Yes that is the style of development they went with and they only had act 1 available in early access. Bethesda could have done the same if they were so inclined.
>blew all other RPGs released this year out of the water
out of the ones i played it beat starfield and ffxvi. it is worse than octopath traveler 2, star ocean 2 remake, dragon quest monsters and trails into reverie. didn't count like a dragon ishin or any of the etrian odyssey rereleases
>octopath traveler 2, star ocean 2 remake, dragon quest monsters and trails into reverie
even the literal best jrpg in existence will never be able to compete with even a mediocre CRPG
Positive mechanically >spells/combat lets me do wacky shit instead of amounting to spamming damage in their face >most quests have varied ways of completing >gear isnt level based so good stat sticks are viable well after an act or two
Main gripe is co op doesnt allow followers to tag along with you so u miss out on content that way
Larian is a solid company that clearly cares about their product and listens about as well as a company can, to the qualms of it's fanbase. They didn't introduce shifty DLC or paid services. So they're good.
after a decade of >MUH UBISHIT SANDBOX >MUH ESPORTS >MUH CINEMATIC MATURE STORY DRIVEN ACTION ADVENTURE
I'll gladly take a return to more niche genres like CRPGs and a focus on single player and gameplay
Reminder over 30 studios worked on BG3. This is idea it was one passionate dev making the game they wanted to make and that's why it's so good is complete fantasy. They even outsourced the game's writing to multiple studios. Everyone is praising Larian for shit they didn't even do. BG3 tells the industry "More outsourcing. MORE! MORE! MORE!"
>one passionate dev making the game
What is in the ever living frick of gaming morons who think this way?
Nobody, and I repeat nobody except you somehow believes that one singular dev made BG3.
A videogame isn't a fricking book for christ sake you frickin moron.
>over 30 studios worked on BG3
This only makes it even more of a success story. It could have been a huge clusterfrick with that many hands in the pot.
It's not, because they don't have the budget. The idea that BG3 only cost Larian a few million dollars is laughable when they have multiple studios and used full VA and mocap.
>because they don't have the budget
Do you know how fricking stupid you sound right now
Most intelligent Larian shill
https://exputer.com/news/games/starfield-200-million-budget-500-devs/
How many million is enough million to make good game?
They'd have the budget if they cut back on the hookers n blow.
I thought it would have been clear by the few million dollars budget that I wasn't referring to AAA studios, but I suppose I made my own misjudgement when I interpreted anon saying smaller devs were just lazy.
>Obsidian and Bethesda >Owned by Microsoft, who has infinite money >Starfield reportedly cost 300 million >Not enough budget compared to an independent studio
Hello? Is anyone at home?
>Obsidian and Bethesda >Owned by Microsoft, who has infinite money
Obsidian had to kickstart Pillars of Eternity, anon. Some games don't automatically get publisher backing.
>Obsidian and Bethesda >Owned by Microsoft, who has infinite money >Starfield reportedly cost 300 million >Not enough budget compared to an independent studio
>don't have the budget
u know BG3 was funded solely by the money made from DoS:2? which was funded from the money made by DoS:1 (and kickstarter) which was kickstarted?
larian went from literally cannot afford to make a game to "too big of a budget" in 3 games because they actually spent the money on the fricking games instead of bloating staff counts 500m advertising budgets
bg3 cost 100m
elden ring was 50m to make
budget is not an excuse when the companies complaining are making 300m games with 500m advertising budget
>u know BG3 was funded solely by the money made from DoS:2?
That's bullshit, they did EA for a reason and I doubt they got $100 million from that over six years but who knows.
yes, yes, your right, they did get money from presales and early access, thats true
but apart from the money that the game itself generated, which I think is perfectly fine as any other company can also do that.
The rest of it all came from DoS:2 profits
people saying they got paid to make this game, when they very clearly when the game was started saying they were negotiating for years to buy the rights to make the game because swen really wanted to make it, that they finally sealed and the deal and think the costs are worth it to get to make a game in the franchise.
they VERY clearly talked about how they had to PAY to get the license, not getting paid or have extra funding or anything
they straight up talked about how they were financing the game, that they scrapped the other game they were working on (the divinity original sin heroes or whatever, with the arena stuff using the upgraded dos 2 engine)
I understand a lot of people never played a game by larian before, that bg3 is their first one, and that they had no interest in bg3 until it launched and got a bunch of hype so people hopped on the bandwagon
but for those of us who have been around, the situation was very clear.
>100m
That is some astronomical amount of money, even 50m seems unreal. I was never interested in game budgets before and I didn't know modern games are that expensive, where all that money goes to?
>That is some astronomical amount of money, even 50m seems unreal
Full mocap + full VA with narration (some big Japanese titles don't make full VA for some reasons).
well think of it this way, lets say its a 100 developers, for 3 years
developers aren't cheap, sure, lots of them are going to be cheaper, but many will be more expensive, senior devs are a lot more expensive, and there other people in supporting staff, so lets just say each of them get 100k a year
thats already 30m, just to pay the people making the game
you need to buy and license things, be that hiring musicians, buying premade stuff (like textures, sfx, etc), licensing software like speedtree, and other bullshit.
facilities like the computers they all need to use, office space, and other bullshit.
marketing as well but its not always counted in the budget and sometimes in a separate "marketing budget"
>u know BG3 was funded solely by the money made from DoS:2?
That's bullshit, they did EA for a reason and I doubt they got $100 million from that over six years but who knows.
Presales don't become extra sales when the game comes out. Selling 1 million copies early and then 6 million at launch is effectively the same as selling 7 million copies at launch without EA.
I enjoy seeing AAA game devs seethe as much as the next guy but FromSoftware games are extremely mainstream, have a lot of corporate backing, get handled with kid gloves by the industry and game devs love sucking up to them for "gamer cred", although they obviously seethe at them behind closed doors.
Baldur's Gate 3 got a lot of positive news coverage because of Hasbro marketing but it was a critical hit to the fragile egos of incompetent diversity hire AAA game devs because a much smaller development studio released a game that people liked.
Keep in mind that game devs in the big corporate game development companies are morons and think their shitty jobs are some sort of prestige so they're elitist as hell towards "no-name" developers.
Baldur's Gate 3 buckbroke that homosexual Josh Sawyer so badly that he's been seetheposting online about it since.
>Baldur's Gate 3 buckbroke that homosexual Josh Sawyer so badly that he's been seetheposting online about it since.
Please post some highlights, I always enjoy seeing that numale traitor seethe that another dev proved him wrong
>Elden Ring >Complete game
the game I bought on launch wasn't completed until weeks later.
Which was completely unforgiveable and glaringly obvious when 3 of the 7 actual quests in the game couldn't properly be finished.
>positive or negative
Depends purely if you think their propaganda is good or bad for you. Since you are asking, it has a amazing positive impact for your kind.
Hello schizo, I saw you spamming this and just wanted to let you know that you're moronic. Not because you don't understand how shares work or what benefits a shareholder does or does not have in regards to corporate governance (because you wouldn't listen to any of this anyway). I'm going to call you moronic for not knowing what various kinds of stock exists and what they entail
After spending time looking through reputable sites, only to find nothing about the structure of Larian's shareholders, I found some random pisspoor website which mentioned the supposed shareholder breakdown for Larian; though with limited info. What it did tell me, however, were the types of shares given out to the affiliated parties.
If this unsourced twitter bullshit that you've been spamming like a lunatic is even remotely true, Tencent has absolutely no say in how the company is run on any level because their shares would be "preferred" and are not "common". What does this mean? It means they have zero (0) voting rights on what limited things shareholders would already be able to vote for in regards to the company structure. They "own" nothing because they're only in it for the money. You just saw the words 'Shares', 'Tencent', and '30%' in a single line then freaked the frick out like the tunnel-visioned idiot that you are without looking up what kinds of stock they even supposedly owned.
tl;dr Please take your meds you wienersucking cowardly piece of shit you even saged the last post like a b***h last time
>goal post moves >doesnt post his hands
Shitskin confirmed
I bet youre a poo too
5 months ago
Anonymous
The goalposts have not moved. Larian is still a scumshit company that sold controlling shares to the Chinese in exchange for getting their clunkfest of a boring rpg out of early access hell.
Not everything topples instantly like your buildings, Ziganwu
5 months ago
Anonymous
>controlling share
This pic here
Hello schizo, I saw you spamming this and just wanted to let you know that you're moronic. Not because you don't understand how shares work or what benefits a shareholder does or does not have in regards to corporate governance (because you wouldn't listen to any of this anyway). I'm going to call you moronic for not knowing what various kinds of stock exists and what they entail
After spending time looking through reputable sites, only to find nothing about the structure of Larian's shareholders, I found some random pisspoor website which mentioned the supposed shareholder breakdown for Larian; though with limited info. What it did tell me, however, were the types of shares given out to the affiliated parties.
If this unsourced twitter bullshit that you've been spamming like a lunatic is even remotely true, Tencent has absolutely no say in how the company is run on any level because their shares would be "preferred" and are not "common". What does this mean? It means they have zero (0) voting rights on what limited things shareholders would already be able to vote for in regards to the company structure. They "own" nothing because they're only in it for the money. You just saw the words 'Shares', 'Tencent', and '30%' in a single line then freaked the frick out like the tunnel-visioned idiot that you are without looking up what kinds of stock they even supposedly owned.
tl;dr Please take your meds you wienersucking cowardly piece of shit you even saged the last post like a b***h last time
shows you its not controlling share they have no shareholder voting rights you idiot
pingpong motherchode
5 months ago
Anonymous
>keeps referencing his disinfo
irrelevant
preferred share means priority on all dividends. larian gives up the lion's share of it's profits to chinese, who demand certain things of voters to keep their dividends high in exchange for investments. This is how chinas filthy belt & road investments work in eurasia and africa.
They control the inflow of money in exchange for favors from voting shareholders.
You are NOT lying your way out of this
5 months ago
Anonymous
Except they dont own a preferred share or priority share or whatever nonsense meme you picked up from Ganker. You havent provided a single scrap of evidence they do in the first place
5 months ago
Anonymous
Why are you lying? What lions share?
Do you even know what that word means shitskin?
Preferred share means priority on LIQUIDATED ASSETS you brainlet. Only relevant if the company goes bust.
The only priority on dividends is the preset per share return rate established per preferred share at also preset intervals.
You don't know how stocks, or China works. You're either underage or a legit moron.
if i was you i'd just close the tab and forget this happened
stop posting already, everyone realizes your a moron dude
You, specifically, are the most moronic shill on the entire site
5 months ago
Anonymous
>doesn't name any of these supposed rights >the only one listed is guaranteed dividend IE normal preference stocks
not an argument
5 months ago
Anonymous
>you have to name the rights for them to exist!
frick off wumao. prove the tencent stake could be any other preferred holder. burden is on you when the game is being so obviously shilled like chinaslop.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>>you have to name the rights for them to exist
That's how substantiating your claims works.
Notes for your ESL tier reading comprehension: >non voting stock has other rights >most preferred stocks are non-voting stock in exchange for dividend rights >tencent is established to be preferred stocks
The onus is on you to prove that these preferred stocks aren't standard preferred stocks. If you were so confident you could substantiate that pretty easily.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Here's my substantiation
Larian before Tencent: niche crpg maker with clar flaws people admit to.
Larian after Tencent: niche crpg with clear flaws drowned out by an army of chinese shills
QED. Good luck proving otherwise.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Further claims are not substantiation.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Thats not what substantiation means
>needs to post a definition of a common idiom
ESL confirmed. 'Priority' means FIRST not MORE you dumb fricking thirdie.
Yes anon and that idiom has a definition you're using wrongly. Which would make you the ESL as you're throwing out words you dont know the meaning of.
5 months ago
Anonymous
My apologies, friendly fire.
>>you have to name the rights for them to exist
That's how substantiating your claims works.
Notes for your ESL tier reading comprehension: >non voting stock has other rights >most preferred stocks are non-voting stock in exchange for dividend rights >tencent is established to be preferred stocks
The onus is on you to prove that these preferred stocks aren't standard preferred stocks. If you were so confident you could substantiate that pretty easily.
>needs to post a definition of a common idiom
ESL confirmed. 'Priority' means FIRST not MORE you dumb fricking thirdie.
Were both actually me.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Thats fine
Because the tencentschizo is a butthurt tortroony who thinks he can redeem himself (pun intended) by derailing bg3 threads on Ganker. It is as gloriously pathetic as it sounds
Irony is i dont even like Baldurs gate 3 nor think it deserves all the acclaim but being this moronic and spreading dumb misinfo is a crime against humanity Honestly kinda wished I pirated it instead of buying it
5 months ago
Anonymous
It’s the same with every game tencent get involved with. this board is now infested with viral marketing, they won’t even stay on /vg/. It’s the same all over the internet for the same games.
5 months ago
Anonymous
literally disproved it here
Why are you lying? What lions share?
Do you even know what that word means shitskin?
Which you couldn't answer
5 months ago
Anonymous
>needs to post a definition of a common idiom
ESL confirmed. 'Priority' means FIRST not MORE you dumb fricking thirdie.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Fricking called it
Now the schizo is gonna go >HAHA I MADE THE CHINKS MAD LMAO!!!!
and continue repeating himself without addressing anything that was said.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>address it >you never addressed it haha!
ad hom. mad chinese shill now being ignored. you lost.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>address it
Wait, you mean you.proved Tencent holds priority shares or whatever?
Oh no, you havent!
SHILL MAD!!!
Kek thanks for proving my point again
5 months ago
Anonymous
>the other right is getting paid dividends first
Dumb frick you've added nothing new to the discussion just circled back to your already disproven point
5 months ago
Anonymous
I circled back to the fact you never disproved. Seethe, shill. You don't know shit about investment stakes.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Thanks for proving me right.
5 months ago
Anonymous
That Tencent literally calls in favors that override the better will of voting stakeholders so they can keep the ccp money flowing? You're welcome, shill. Not sure why you think you're right when you're blatantly wrong.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Not sure why you think you're right
Because you don't understand how stocks or China works and you're either underage or a legit moron. I mean, you just posted a pic that proves you wrong as "argument".
5 months ago
Anonymous
I literally just posted the facts disproving your shill argument and misunderstanding of definitions. I understand it 100% better than you. I always wiill, as I am not the only presenting disinfo as part of my shill job. You are.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You literally understood it in the opposite way. Again, either underage or moronic. Maybe both.
5 months ago
Anonymous
suck my toes
5 months ago
Anonymous
this moron is actually trying to argue a minority owner has more power then the majority, how the frick do you get this stupid
5 months ago
Anonymous
He just decided that preference shares mean "controlling shares" and now he's dying in that hill. Amazing, right?
5 months ago
Anonymous
minority stakes with preference over dividends has both a vested interest in increasing that company's profit making potential (investments) and having that company make profit-based decisions (manipulating voter decisions). Private companies cannot ignore the owner of 1/3 of their company, voting rights or no. It would be catastrophic if they either reduced investments or cut them entirely.
Shareholder investments into their stakes is never the end of investing. It is the beginning. You would know this if you werent a low IQ beglgian moron or chinese
He just decided that preference shares mean "controlling shares" and now he's dying in that hill. Amazing, right?
control the money control the company. you lost, Wong
Shills have all the proof they asked for. They will receive no further replies. Cry and lie as much as you want.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Again, the only thing you you've proved (several times) its that you don't understand how stock works. Embarrassing.
5 months ago
Anonymous
> has both a vested interest in increasing that company's profit
Tencent is not going to spend money to earn a fraction of what they spent
Do you have any idea the amount of money they would need to spend advertising? How much do you think they'll get back from that?
What the fricking kind of bullshit do you think Tencent is doing behind the scenes?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Private companies cannot ignore the owner of 1/3 of their company, voting rights or no.
When the owner of 2/3 of the private company (who's also the founder and CEO) says so, yeah they can. >N-NO MORE REPLIES!!!
It never gets old seeing you run away with your tail between your legs when you realize your FUD campaign doesnt work on people when know what you're talking about.
Better luck next thread!
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Private companies cannot ignore the owner of 1/3 of their company
Yes they can when the other 2/3rds tell them to frick off.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>You would know this if you werent a low IQ beglgian moron or chinese
Rather ironic your calling me low iq when your dumbass thinks 1/3rd is bigger then 2/3. There is not a single place on earth where minority stakes can override the majority ones you fricking moron.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You could've saved face by calling bullshit on his source about the type or shares. But no, you had to prove yourself as a mongoloid that doesn't understand how public companies works.
Good job, moron.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Lol he actually went to another thread to continue spewing this bs
[...]
ah haha what a fricking homosexual
5 months ago
Anonymous
Why are you lying? What lions share?
Do you even know what that word means shitskin?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Preferred share means priority on LIQUIDATED ASSETS you brainlet. Only relevant if the company goes bust.
The only priority on dividends is the preset per share return rate established per preferred share at also preset intervals.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You don't know how stocks, or China works. You're either underage or a legit moron.
5 months ago
Anonymous
if i was you i'd just close the tab and forget this happened
5 months ago
Anonymous
stop posting already, everyone realizes your a moron dude
5 months ago
Anonymous
mald more you bitter gay
5 months ago
Anonymous
Why are female butts so pretty bros
5 months ago
Anonymous
Because you are biologically predisposed to find them attractive.
you do not understand what a minority partner is.
if 6 people own 15% and 1 person owns 10%, the 10% is the minority partner, but they are still really important.
But guess what, their vote is still really important because if 3 people vote one way, if the 10% agrees with them oops suddenly that goes through, they can swing it heavily.
but thats only when talking about voting shares, in a public company that has voting and a board.
Larian is a private company, there is no board, there is no voting, Swen owns >50%, which means he just says what fricking happens and no one can disagree, it doesn't matter how much they own, what type of share, or anything, when someone owns >50%, they make the decisions, end of story.
Especially in regards to a private company and how it functions, since Larian is private, not public.
Same as valve, gabe makes the decisions, no one can argue with him, doesn't matter if others have a stake, he owns >50%, he makes the choice.
see why was that so fricking difficult
also that game's old enough to post on Ganker, gimme something more recent
5 months ago
Anonymous
Resident Evil 4 Remake
5 months ago
Anonymous
so what makes REmake 4 good and BG3 shit then
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's an actual game for one.
Doesn't waste your time with pointless "choices", homosexual cutscenes, and 5 hour battles.
Turn on game. Get context. Start playing game. Finish game in 6-10 hours.
Only a loser homosexual moron thinks crpgs are good.
5 months ago
Anonymous
you could have saved us both time and said "CRPGs suck and I'm an impatient homosexual"
5 months ago
Anonymous
>impatient homosexual >bro just waste your free time because you're not a homosexual neet like me watching a moron take 8 minutes to do his attack animations
Nah get better taste. You already wasted your life so I guess wasting it on a reddit game doesn't matter
5 months ago
Anonymous
you're on Ganker in 2023, don't give me this bullshit about you worrying about wasting your time
Look, I haven't picked up a video game in a decade but decided I'd give Baldur's Gate a try when I saw how much praise it was getting, and within 10 minutes of booting it up I knew that this was not only the best video game ever made, but also the only video game ever made. All other developers in history should be ashamed and sickened that instead of making BG3, they chose to develop whatever non-BG3 plebeian drivel they had the audacity to call video games.
none or possibly negative.
i think the response from the industry overwhelmingly suggests that they just don't get it, and never will. >they think it came out of nowhere and was a huge surprise
its fricking Baldur's Gate, it launched into early access and day 1 instantly looked like it was going to be a new marquee moment for CRPG, and it was, surprising zero fans of the genre. yes the really mainstream success was a little surprising, but not really. >jumping to excuses why they can't do it
excuse after excuse that could not in the slightest hide their greed. we don't have the talent, we don't have the studio tooled for this specific task (we had it but already dissolved them to save money), it's too risky to make that sort of game. it all said one simple thing "we can't pump this out cheaply and milk GaaS money from it, so we won't bother".
all Larian did was stick to their guns, try to make a good game, and release it. that's it. does that sound like a complete stretch too far for the games industry?
somehow, yes...
they don't know what a fun game is, they don't play them. they don't have creative ideas. all they can do is sit in board rooms and try to chase market trends. Fortnight, LoL, whatever it is that year; how to we pump out our own version cheaply and milk it as hard as possible? and they'll kill any studio with promise and talent, the moment it doesn't pan out.
I dont think it will affect anything. No reason for anyone outside RPGs to care. Within the CRPG genre, party-based, linear, narrative focused, DnD-slop games like BG, DOS, Pathfinder, Pillars, etc. Are already the most popular and numerous sub-genre of CRPG that are over saturating the market. BG3 will just reinforce the existing precident.
It may affect AAA WRPG-slop like Bioshit or Toddslop. Since they attract the same braindead audience.
>afraid of yous now
kek
Go on and explain why shills (another claim) existing makes tencent's preferred stock nonstandard preferred stock. That's not substantiation you fricking idiot.
Because the tencentschizo is a butthurt tortroony who thinks he can redeem himself (pun intended) by derailing bg3 threads on Ganker. It is as gloriously pathetic as it sounds
In my honest opinion it will most likely have a net negative impact, some good will come of it like more CRPGs only about 5% will be good from bigger studios, but like most larger studios they will completely miss the mark on what made BG3 good and just make soulless husks trying to emulate it. I feel it will be akin to Escape from Tarkov and the genre it created, when it got popular a ton of other companies tried and failed to make copies of it while only 1 MAYBE 2 games succeeded in having a player base but even then it is just not the same as the original in any capacity.
There's a few different factors.
1. This super-successful game was made without any of the trappings of modern AAA (creative freedom, no microtransactions, no live service, no crunch, long game without resorting to Ubisoft tower open world design, dev team is self-sufficient and doesn't belong to a huge corporation) without looking cheaply made. This highlights the limitations of massively-budgeted AAA games and helps push that scene towards collapse. This is a big positive.
2. D&D as a setting and CRPGs as a genre will absolutely have a resurgence because of BG3. Hasbro's been shitting the bed with WotC so I don't know if they'll deserve the success but if they frick up enough then people will just go to Pathfinder. CRPGs were pretty sparse and now more will probably be greenlit or given more money to chase BG3's trend. Slight positive.
3. It brought many people into gaming that otherwise didn't care or were casuals or had a passing interest in D&D from its revival in the streaming era via Critical Role and all that. Who knows if they stick around. Neutral leaning on negative.
4. Nudity and sex scenes in a mainstream GOTY winner is pretty major I think. Whether this is positive or negative really just depends on your perception.
because most of the marketing of this game was to compare itself to diablo 4, people make arguments that don't make sense just because it fits their narrative.
ubisoft towers hadn't been a thing for almost 8 years
Answer to what, idiot? You're just a boring idiot with nothing meaningful to say, just a collection of dishonest blanket statements you could say about anything.
Morons like you are never prepared to go into even the slightest bit of detail because you realize that's the point where your idiocy is well and truly exposed.
you're free to argue against any of my points posted here
very negative >just put porn in promo material for easy cash-in >just use the marketing machine to astroturf over every aspect except gameplay >frontload the first 15% of the game because the game is designed to be dropped at the end of the first chapter (mostly by selling it as a multiplayer game to an older audience that will be incapable of keeping a schedule, meaning they will "continue later" but never will) >blablantly lie to set yourself "against the trends" despite doing the same (claim about a complete game without microtransactions despite having a 10$ DLC, twitch drops et saying you're indie despite being partly owned by Tencent) >follow all the negatives of these current days: a game designed to bloat the SSD, woke content out of the ass, characters are archetypes of the current day (meaning the game will feel off in a couple of years, like with all the characters with the broccoli zoomer haircut that is already falling off), an aggressive stance against people making white characters, data collection etc
the only good thing was to make western AAA devs piss themselves on social media, sadly people thought they would get a better competition because these companies would have to step up their game, but bg3 sold a few millions and probably turned a small profit while these AAA microtransaction games make as much money in a single day with a single skin release
please address them if I'm wrong, because you said here
I don't see why you even bother replying after making it clear your opinions have a value of zero. Maybe try again next thread.
that you have no interest in replying but did it twice already
When someone disagrees with you online and demands you prove your point to their satisfaction by writing a complete and logically sound defense including citations, you can save a lot of time by not doing that. I've known you for twenty minutes and enjoyed none of them, I'm not taking assignments from you.
Before they patched it, I pretty much robbed every act 1 Shop with that 1gp bag trick and I don't feel even an ounce of shame considering how the game basically has you systematically wiping out group after group methodically. Oh you're throwing an entire Goblin Camp at me? Well all my dudes are kitted out in blue gear and have an entire library of spell scrolls so get fricked lol
too early to say. i'd like to think it had a positive effect and that it spurned some formerly good devs on to think "i guess we can also make a good game if we try," but i know better than to think that.
money is king, so big studios will just dismiss BG3 as lightning in a bottle and continue churning out diversified GAAS crap
Negative.
It won't change the shitty practices the dominate the industry, all the while encouraging more wokeshit and shitty lewd content meant primarily for demographics that don't buy games.
I'm thinking of doing melee bardlock (pact of the blade + swords school) build for honor mode.
Should I go 5 lock 5 bard 2 fighter, or 7 lock 5 bard? Keep in mind that extra attack from pact of the blade doesn't stack with other sources of extra attacks in honor mode, so leveling bard to 6 and up is pointless.
>There's always a reason to go 2 fighter for almost any class - action surge.
i suppose but a 4th level spell slots feels way more useful, specially fire wall or black tentacles, since AOE enviroment spells are so good in thsi game
the effect was definitely positive but it's a unicorn that we won't see again for a long time. how bg3 worked out was that they went early access and got a shitload of money and instead of it going to their heads, it made the devs happy that people liked their game and they just kept pouring their heart and soul into it.
i bought it the first day it was out for EA on steam and i remember over the years feeling worried that larian was stalling because they couldn't finish the game or were having problems. then one day i logged in after a break and saw all the new content updates and was like holy shit this game is going to crush it. then after another few years it released and did in fact crush it.
bg3 is a big win for the devs and for the people who supported its development financially.
>Make a College of Swords Bard >Put a point into dual-wielding when I leveled up just to use dual-wielding
Is this normal? Or did I frick up and CoS bards get dual-wielding automatically at some point?
You can dual wield weapons from the get go with no prerequisites, two-weapon fighting style just makes your off-hand attacks benefit from ability score modifier.
i still don't understand how they got away with everything: skimpy clothing, literal sex, visible genitalia, etc. without any of the fallout that games got in the '10s.
remember how much shit dead or alive got?
Games having lewd content is only a nono in the shareholder's mind. It's an unwritten taboo that nobody really cares about at all, a ghost from past eras
The sexual content was heavily geared towards the sensibilities of the Twitter crowd. That's why it's kind of gross and is infused with a lot of unfunny humor.
>i still don't understand how they got away with everything: skimpy clothing, literal sex, visible genitalia, etc. without any of the fallout that games got in the '10s.
It's really simple, bro; Larian is a private company. That's the long and short of it. No board, no investors, no external meddling = freedom to do whatever you want with your game.
But do you mean actual wieners as in wieners or just making their clits bigger to the point they can penetrate others? Because the other was my idea for my fantasy setting and now I feel less original and degenerate...
The Drow were made as fetish fuel originally.a race of evil sexy elf women who treat me like slaves.
But then writers started making them cartoonishly matriarchal and depraved. Some fricker even wrote in to canon that pregnant Drow get super orgasms when on of their fetuses kills another in the womb, which is the primary incentive for a Drow woman to carry a child to term.
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>sexy elf women who treat me like slaves.
nice Freudian slip lmao
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>Some fricker even wrote in to canon that pregnant Drow get super orgasms when on of their fetuses kills another in the womb
that's crazy and very hot
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Thinking drow were invented for fap bait and then citing lore from like, the awful books at the tail end of 3rd edition is a bizzare thing to do
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>Lore from the creators of the drow don't count, because I don't like it.
The simple truth is Baldur's Gate 3 got so much good press, and covered it's bases in other ways (that headline creating bear sex scene wasn't done with a heterosexual couple for a reason), that trying to tear it down with the usual moral panic stuff just wasn't gonna fly. That's always how it is. It doesn't even have to be stupendous mainstream hits like BG3 either. You should see how frustrated some people get that Bayonetta gets away with being talked about normally without being drowned out by shitposting about the sexualization. Hell, even the gachas get away with it now if they're big enough (Genshin Impact, GBF, etc.)
It's sort of a dice roll sometimes, but when it rolls right you get things like this where the sheer quality, or appeal, outweighs attempts to try and make a thing about it. And in the reverse: a game is not appealing enough, or its quality is considered dubious enough, that all positive talk about it never appears because the shitposting about it makes it untenable. After all, you don't want to be one of those people taking the pedo fighter game seriously, do you?
>go into lower level of tower >evil gnome in hot sex outfit with her breasts out >*neurons go bing bing* >kill hot gnome >can’t even take the sex outfit
let's see >bring more normal gays into this garbage industry >bestiality, troony and gays >mutts and lesbians in a medieval setting >unfinished trash, but praised by everyone while being 3 years into EA and 6 years into making >shit gameplay, but muh choices and cooming
yeah, made this garbage industry worse
>Nope. Baldur Gates is not a medieval setting.
yeah, instead is a African setting
I can hear the gay lisp in this post lol
go back to your beastiality and comming simulator subhuman, you don't play real games anyway
>let's see
more normal gays into this garbage industry
, troony and gays
and lesbians in a medieval setting
trash, but praised by everyone while being 3 years into EA and 6 years into making >>shit gameplay, but muh choices and cooming >yeah, made this garbage industry worse
>criticize the game with real arguments >4 shills defending it not even 4 min later and 4 posts in a row
haha, kinda funny how this game have the worst fanbase overnight
> >>Nope. Baldur Gates is not a medieval setting. >yeah, instead is a African setting >
I can hear the gay lisp in this post lol
>go back to your beastiality and comming simulator subhuman, you don't play real games anyway >
>let's see
more normal gays into this garbage industry
, troony and gays
and lesbians in a medieval setting
trash, but praised by everyone while being 3 years into EA and 6 years into making >>shit gameplay, but muh choices and cooming >yeah, made this garbage industry worse(You)
the game with real arguments >>4 shills defending it not even 4 min later and 4 posts in a row >haha, kinda funny how this game have the worst fanbase overnight
It's magical technology, and I mean it really isn't hard to understand it happened in a fantasy setting that way.
When magic can be learned, it's powers tamed and harnessed to do stuff like instant communication, teleportation, make transportation easier, etc your society is going to start advancing further as well in tune with the physical boundaries or constraints of that universe.
>That doesn't explain why would anybody still use swords in a world like this
Swords = cool. That's about the skinny of it, well that and fantasy in it's infancy used a lot of medieval stuff in's early popularization, and so it stuck.
Also, fighters have inhuman strength/abilities that make them insanely deadly via skills/drugs/etc/magical armor, so they didn't inherently become extinct for long range combat like in modern day.
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>fighters have inhuman strength/abilities
I'm reminded of the time that the designers of 5e stated publicly that picking up a weapon by tying it to your wrist with a cord in order to avoid using an entire action to do so was not something that should be allowed, as they got all the fat, out of shape morons in the office to waste an hour failing to grab computer mice that they tied to their wrists and attempted to flick it into their hands.
>That doesn't explain why would anybody still use swords in a world like this
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Picrel is also fricking stupid
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It isn't. The moment your technological/magical level allows for masses of infantry to become near-immune to projectiles, melee weapons come back into play.
That's one of the neat things KOTOR did to explain why melee weapons are still used - mass produced energy shields made so that blasters are no longer the be all, end all of personal weapons.
It IS a Renaissance setting, especially the Sword Coast. Baldur's Gate is en ex-pirate cove that wasn't even named "Baldur's Gate" until a few hundred years ago, that got rich thanks to said pirate named Balduran, who sponsored a wall for the town.
>let's see
more normal gays into this garbage industry
, troony and gays
and lesbians in a medieval setting
trash, but praised by everyone while being 3 years into EA and 6 years into making >>shit gameplay, but muh choices and cooming >yeah, made this garbage industry worse
Did you miss the whining of the people defending multi-million dollar corporations?
Larian showed us that good games are still possible and that early CRPGs quality weren't flukes.
Slightly net positive. Screwed starfield because it made people realize Bethesda is stuck in the past and lazy. Potentially could convince data/market analysts to reanalyze the crpg market and convince their bosses that it is a viable market now due to bg3's success, critical role and accessibility of 5e. So essentially there is a chance of another triple A crpg in the future not made by larisn
>full on RPG steals the thunder from every AAA game with """RPG elements""" and shows that there is a real market for turn based story driven games in the mainstream
but >its up to its fricking neck in just about every kind of degeneracy under the sun, even if its to its own detriment like your party members throwing themselves at you without warning. Expect more of this from other studios in the future. Also they will advertise it with gay furry feral sex, but lord forbid you want to frick a goblin
talk about a fricking monkeys paw
Even worse, the fact that it was in Early Access for years means that slop can still be churned out and kept on low heat until a marketing blitz happens for 1.0.
It was succesful because people played it and had fun, something that Ganker can't experience anymore because Ganker prefers to argue instead of actually playing the game.
Aldo because it had no zoomer catcher stuff like battle passes, DLCs or stuff like that. >inb4 deluxe edition
Literal cosmetics and a letter that says "thank you for your support".
I beat it in the first month after full release. It was shit experience. >dialed to eleven realism models which look entirely out of place >ugly as frick on top of it >extreme close ups in every dialogue, event and cutscene which not only skips imagination part of rpg entirely it also looks fricking atrocious due to andromeda tier uncanny volley face mocap >5e is shit edition, doubly so if you can't rummage through splats and choose interesting parts >larian gimmicks with verticality, dipping, jumps etc aren't fricking helping it either >story is shit, both in narrative and writing, nevermind huge dumps larian take on setting to shoehorn illithid wank >for all the hailed choices there is only one that does anything and it is in first act >and by does anything i mean it locks you out of significant portion of content offering almost nothing to replace it with
Sometimes I think the gay shit, the bear, and Shartcucking was added purely to the game to undermine any actual discussion of the negatives of this game.
>Ganker main problem with the game is that they constantly encounter bestiality and homosexualry >game doesnt force players into bestiality and homosexualry unless they go through the multiple stages of specific dialogues, consciously or subconsciously
It exposed Ganker as a bunch of exposed homosexuals and bear frickers, so they are mad at the game
>I never see anyone discuss the gameplay
Because it's just a neutered 5e, and 5e isn't a particularly deep or interesting system. It's not so terrible that you can mock it day in and day out, but it's inoffensive at best and story is what makes or breaks the enjoyability of any game (video or tabletop) using it. >Is beast master ranger fun?
It's quite literally the single worst archetype in 5e bar none. Ranger in general got shafted, just play Druid and get Find Familiar through a feat or something.
>I never see anyone discuss the gameplay of this game
Literally in this very thread a few hours ago. >Is beast master ranger fun?
No. I will not elaborate as to why because you sound like a gay whose sole intention is to stir up shit.
people who buy microtransactions need to be shot
it'd be like if boomers figured it'd be okay for movie theatres and directors to add in certain scenes/have the main character of the movie wear a different outfit for a 10 dollar premium
micro transactions no question, if the insominac leak proved anything it's that micro transactions are just pure profit, they cost nothing to make and rake in insane money.
Net neutral, maybe leaning negative. It shows the value of giving a frick about your production in RPGs, namely voice acting and animation, but holy shit the writing is bad. Also encourages more dredging up of old IPs just to profit off the name. Let's be real, the Baldur's Gate story was finished, there was no need to drag its corpse into the limelight for this disaster.
Really, it'll just spawn imitators who rather than imitating the good production value, imitate the constant sex and normiebait writing. Also 5e is shit.
Have you seen the reviews on Rogue Trader from people who liked BG3?
Naturally negative.
The bleeding and festering wound BG3 inflicted on the entire CRPG genre will not heal for many, many years to come....
I'm afraid we have a situation of shitcher 3 wild puke level again.
A bunch of zoom-zoom guys will get into the genre and because of their number and their desire to devour undigested feces, as well as because of their aggression towards real games - the whole genre will change for many years.
Those sound like useful complaints for development, followed by some dude malding while wearing the avatar of a character who means nothing in the game he's in
I played BG1 and 2 back when they came out and replayed them again a year before BG3's release. I don't really care for BG3 as a BG game which is easy enough to do because of how long it's been and how Wizards has already shat all over the city and the setting over the years anyway. As a game though, BG3 is fantastic. While I love classic CRPGs, BG3 really shows has stagnant they've been mechanics wise because all they ever bother to do is adapt rules without ever giving them interactivity and freedom. Being able to throw anything that isn't nailed down, jumping being an actual action that helps with the verticality that the game has and most RPGs don't, lots of destructible objects and physics props, interactions between spells, etc.
I'm playing Rogue Trader right now and I do appreciate the narrative focus, and I always love how grand the scale of Owlcat's games are with how you assume a high position and manage things and explore a gigantic (on paper) map, gameplay-wise it's again back to being really primitive, hell, even more primitive than most other CRPGs because all you do in the overworld is run around until combat starts because there's not much to interact with. The world is massively skippable and you walk past most of it because there's nothing there. Of course, it's a hundred times much lower budget game and I'd rather they stick to what they do best than rock the boat, but it's a stark contrast and shows how much of a game changer BG3 could be if developers follow in its footsteps.
There's a game I spotted on Steam that might be similar in how it tries to focus on mechanics rather than just being combat simulator since it promises environmental destruction, verticality, elements and lets you jump. It's been in the works for much longer than BG3's been out, but either way I really hope developers keep going in this direction with RPGs.
What's the name of that other game you mentioned anon?
Being able to put a silence bubble on a cracked wall and then smash it without alerting guards is the kind of shit I wish more games did. BG3 has this immersive sim feel to it at times and I love it.
Other developers making RPG games need to develop beter engines. Currently there is no other engine out there for RPGs to do similar things to the engine Larian are using. On top of that Larian now boosted their production to stupedous levels with all the mocapped scenes, voiced dialogues and unique music for different encounters that sometimes are even a part of the encounter AKA the harpies or the song of Balduran that you can hear in the Elfsong Tavern being sang by the spirit inhabiting the place.
I am enjoying Rogue Trader for what it is(only a few hours in) but if it had the production of BG3 and a better engine it would've been an even better game.
I mean, the bodies are fine and and dandy, but there's just something about western faces in games that looks off-putting, and it seems to get worse as graphical fidelity improves.
They have this opinionated expressions, cunning b***h brows, like they are thinking and judging things. They remove the female innocence from them and they look annoying and obnoxious.
Are pubic hair canon?
It's lessons were already known, but they will never learn or practice in large scale, Larian was one small studio using a IP that the owners were throwing in the trash
Lessons of the game: >waifus and sex sells
Obviously going against the feminazi ideology >effort and good production sells on it's own
Going against the lazy israelites principles of half-assing everything they do
You will never see this be implemented into AAA
Whilst I'd like to believe something good will come of this, I doubt it. BG3 could even poison the well for the genre as a whole, with outsiders to CRPGs demanding they get more BG3-likes to the detriment of everything else.
If you prefer I can call them DOS-likes, but there's a huge portion of BG3's fanbase (arguably the majority) who haven't even touched the Original Sin games in order to realize BG3 is actually DOS3 in disguise.
>but there's a huge portion of BG3's fanbase (arguably the majority) who haven't even touched the Original Sin games in order to realize BG3 is actually DOS3 in disguise.
it isnt the same tho at all anon.
im getting and replying late to this, but I had DOS2 for years and never got out of fort joy because the combat was just less fun.
5E rulesets and I beat BG3.And all its side content.
Most CRPGs are niche anyway, I really doubt the success of BG3 will have any bearing on Owlcat's devoted fanbase for instance. They'll keep utilizing kickstarter and force shit like Dervin and Blackwater into the main story in order to keep going.
Owlcat isn't woke! Well, Kingmaker has two companions that are in an open relationship and you can frick and marry both of them at the same time. Okay well WOTR isn't woke - Uh, maybe ignore the transgender and his mommy orc gf. Or the fact that the only true and straight romance options is with a succubus that has had thousands of bodies under her belt.
homosexuals on Ganker are all fat and moronic so they have just given up on reasonable standards for women just to spite the world.
Every woman needs to have a figure like 2B as drawn by a furry with an inflation fetish, otherwise she is a troony plank or whatever
Nevermind that every woman in the game is thin and toned with perky c-cups with long legs and a nice ass, because WHERES MY H-CUP JIGGLE PHYSICS NOOOO THIS GAME IS POZZED
What made you think anything I said was ironic you actual mouthbreather. I stated that was what you touchless homosexuals think. No hyperbole. Its sad.
>felt like rogue trader was objectively worse than BG3 >finished rogue trader despite all the gamebreaking bugs >couldnt be bothered to finish BG3
what's wrong with me?
considering it proved everything AAA publishers have been pushing for the past decade were lies, hopefully a positive. Game doesn't have Denuvo so go ahead and pirate it, it already sold about 7 million copies and there's plenty of 5e homosexuals out there that are willing to buy the special physical edition to put on their virginity shelves as well as a d20 to shove up their girlfriend's ass.
The reaction of AAA dev trying to explain that BG3 couldn't be replicated, only to show the entire world that the AAA development model is so bloated and obsess by the shareholder profit it can't do what Larian team (a smaller team without AAA budget) could do make it a positive.
They litteraly say they couldn't do it because they can't have a stable dev team, with experience on their engine and can't have a longer game development cycle where you listen to player feedback.
>The reaction of AAA dev trying to explain that BG3 couldn't be replicated
They can't even replicate simpler and older games. Insomniac spent 300 million for 20 hrs game (100%) and sold it for 70 USD. That's a fricking scam.
>roleplaying game >Level 25 mage >Probably trained his whole life becoming good at magic in roleplaying terms >Give 100 gold to a zombie >Can no longer cast magic but is now a holy paladin without a minute of training
This game is utter trash and it disgusts me to this day that it is allowed to drag the name of Baldurs Gate through the shit
Complaining about a convenience feature such as respeccing ruining immersion is genuinely moronic, and the fact that you're trying to act smug about it is like trying to act smug about your game's pause button doesn't actually pause time.
Idk what to say you should be vivisected in the name of science to better understand and help morons all over the world go to the toilet without pissing themselves for "immersion"
No, ill poke your down syndrome ass for free. You're the stupidest poster i've seen all week and now you're crying shill, like a blind and deaf, piss stained invalid at a mental hospital trying to soothe the voices in his head.
>dumb downed
people keep saying this and outing themselves as brainlets
stacking 20 feats to get your tohit to +30 isn't roleplaying, interesting or complex, it's just fricking boring. Call me when your cRPG has platforming, real verticality, real stealth, prison systems, letting you kill any NPC, actual magic like speak with dead/animals/detect thoughts/fly/gust of wind/polymorph/seeming, etc etc. Or throwing. Or destructible environments, and on and on and on.
Then we'll talk.
It's just shitposters. It's the same people that complain about Cyberpunk 2077 when that game also gave us a ton of hot b***hes and first person action RPG goodness.
It acts as a precedent to justify devs putting in more attractive characters >But BG3 girls are ugly
Compared to western standards they are sex symbols
it'll be easier to tell within a few years after devs of other games have time to shamelessly ape whatever their gut tells them was key to BG3's success
why do you spend your time listening to gaming journalists' opinions? it's companies like sony who demand the censorship. there is no hypocrisy on larian's behalf.
It’s not exactly larian or the game itself at fault, but the fact that it gets a pass while Sony and journalists (who affect public opinion and therefore censorship by companies) always go after any anime game fanservice.
I don’t stay angry about it I just posted that picture because it describes the hypocrisy revealed by the game.
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nta but hypocrisy is getting mad about muh degeneracy while pretending you have a principled stance against censorship.
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Both groups are hypocrites, but at least Ganker's influence on the industry is very limited
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then why are you preaching to the converted on Ganker instead of fighting your good fight elsewhere?
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So are gaming journalists at this point. Some low paid freelancer churning out click bait like "why Cammy's thighs are problematic" has microscopic influence and clout even compared to actual big name influencer ecelebs on twitch and yt
BG3 is the first time I've seen a modern video game where the voice actresses are actually cute and hot in real life to match their sexy voices and vibe of ingame models instead of turning out to be nasty frumpy ogres IRL that you wish you never looked up. Froggie's VA is a straight up Stacey.
BG3 taught the industry that you can release unfinished games and normalgays will still consume that slop up and even thank afterwards so negative impact, I guess.
People were very critical of CP at launch though. BG3 taught that you only need to polish the first 1/3rd of your game, the rest doesn't really matter since people won't be playing to the end anyway.
BG3 was nowhere as unfinished as Cyberpunk was at launched and it was updated far more quickly and consistently than most games. You people act like 1/3rd of the game was missing at launch, it's beyond disingenuous. Especially considering this is a genre where most games are even more unfinished at launch despite being low budget.
>the rest doesn't really matter since people won't be playing to the end anyway.
That's most games that take +50 hours to beat on a blind playthrough. There are few games of BG3s length where more than a third of the owners actually beat it
It's because most people just don't finish their games, especially when they're long. BG3 has an higher than average completion rate considering how long the average first playthrough is.
>And that's because companies keep frontloading their games.
3rd act is ~50% of the game. >Because BG3 didn't launch on PS5...
Only one big performance bug (memory leak in the city) during launch, my friend. You can't compare these games.
The game is pretty good. If you're worried about gays, chinks, and whatever then you got the bad ending. I bet if a guy would hit on you, you'd get angry.
I do. A best-selling game comes out that has hardcore sex between man and animal, and everyone makes excuses for why it's okay for a game to have this type of content.
This shit should be banned by law.
I do. A best-selling game comes out that has hardcore sex between man and animal, and everyone makes excuses for why it's okay for a game to have this type of content.
This shit should be banned by law.
You've 100% jerk offd to e-girl at one point so you're a pedophile.
Don't care what the context or when.
Now find a hole and jump in it.
The only thing that irritates me is that none of the women in Baldur's Gate 3 are curvaceous or THICC. They're all broad-shouldered, fridge bodies with small breasts. They all use the same body model and it looks like shit.
very negative >just put porn in promo material for easy cash-in >just use the marketing machine to astroturf over every aspect except gameplay >frontload the first 15% of the game because the game is designed to be dropped at the end of the first chapter (mostly by selling it as a multiplayer game to an older audience that will be incapable of keeping a schedule, meaning they will "continue later" but never will) >blablantly lie to set yourself "against the trends" despite doing the same (claim about a complete game without microtransactions despite having a 10$ DLC, twitch drops et saying you're indie despite being partly owned by Tencent) >follow all the negatives of these current days: a game designed to bloat the SSD, woke content out of the ass, characters are archetypes of the current day (meaning the game will feel off in a couple of years, like with all the characters with the broccoli zoomer haircut that is already falling off), an aggressive stance against people making white characters, data collection etc
the only good thing was to make western AAA devs piss themselves on social media, sadly people thought they would get a better competition because these companies would have to step up their game, but bg3 sold a few millions and probably turned a small profit while these AAA microtransaction games make as much money in a single day with a single skin release
the game was avaliable for almost a full year and nobody gave a shit about it
then the bear frick trailer came in and it was popular
you can't rewrite history, no matter how hard you try
I finally understand what normies mean by "touch grass". Jesus christ, anon, you're living in a different reality, you know that right? Frick this monkey ass videogame, you're failing at being an individual my guy.
every point is clearly defined, it's easy to contest one point while ignoring the others.
that is, only if you have a single argument against what I said, but both of us know you have none
Answer to what, idiot? You're just a boring idiot with nothing meaningful to say, just a collection of dishonest blanket statements you could say about anything.
Morons like you are never prepared to go into even the slightest bit of detail because you realize that's the point where your idiocy is well and truly exposed.
every point is clearly defined, it's easy to contest one point while ignoring the others.
that is, only if you have a single argument against what I said, but both of us know you have none
because most of the marketing of this game was to compare itself to diablo 4, people make arguments that don't make sense just because it fits their narrative.
ubisoft towers hadn't been a thing for almost 8 years
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you don't need to press enter twice here redditor
Whenever someone says >BALDURS GATE 3 CHANGED GAMING OMMGGG!!!
I ask in what way and they come out with the most esoteric fairy shit like >UMM IT SHOWED GAMES MADE WITH PASSIONS AND GOOD ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND GOOD GAMES AND GAMES THAT ARE GOOD AND COMPANIES GOOD AND THAT IT CAN BE GOOD BECAUSE THE GAME IS GOOD
moronation.
BG3 probably has the worst story I've ever seen in a isometric RPG. It's horrible. In these types of games story is extremely important. There are also characters and areas that are woefully underused. You have the entire githyanki creche that is just there so you can have the fricking chair scene. Chapter 3 is woefully underutilized and the game itself after chapter 1 is extremely short.
The fact people praise this game as the best game of all time and one of the best isometric rpgs of all time boggles my mind. Even NWN had a better story than this.
WORSE is the fact that isometric RPG's have a history of moddability and BG3 has no extensive moddability nor does it have a create your own adventure mode or a build your own adventure. Or even a multiplayer mode with a human DM feature.
It's just half baked.
Some of the characters seem like after thoughts too. Minsk, Minthara, the bear sex druid and the old hag granny are all woefully under used. There's barely any story for them at all. It feels like an afterthought when after story, characters are the most important thing in games like this.
I genuinely don't understand the insane reaction for this game. It feels like some sort of weird mass hysteria. It's a good game. It's fine. It's middle of the pack for isometric RPG's though and it's characters are entirely forgettable.
Maybe I'm just too old for this shit.
That remains to be seen.
Thanks 8-ball
Any other answer is stupid, it's too early to say.
i dont think it will affect anything. its crazy that an actual wrpg would recieve any recognition at all. but the AAA suits will just see it as an outlier and continue along with their movie game rehash money making formula
>twitterslop
Net Neutral.
>Fricked AAA projects that released at the same time
>Attracted a handful of people into playing games who never played a game but really liked watching Critical Role
>Can't even be replicated by their own developers since the tech used to make cutscenes was patented by one guy on their team who shot himself after the game released with nobody else knowing how to use it
>Can't even be replicated by their own developers since the tech used to make cutscenes was patented by one guy on their team who shot himself after the game released with nobody else knowing how to use it
you got a sauce or run down on this?
I made it up
>the tech used to make cutscenes was patented by one guy on their team who shot himself after the game released
Did you remember to take your medication today?
>since the tech used to make cutscenes was patented by one guy on their team who shot himself after the game released with nobody else knowing how to use it
I know that videogame journalists are a joke. But I still can't help but think that if this really happened. It would have been at the top of every news site even remotely associated with videogames.
nope, game journalism doesn't talk about the process of making games, ever. just about women's rights or whatever
If an AAA game dev shot himself it would make the news
Not even Ganker talks about game devs except a few studio leads, all they do is talk about homosexual VOICE ACTORS
Ganker doesn't give a shit about video games just culture war drama
>was patented by one guy on their team who shot himself after the game released with nobody else knowing how to use it
wut
AAA projects that released at the same time
Such as?
It had no impact. The only people I see talking about it are coomers and they're constantly jumping from one FOTM to the next.
Probably negative, in a way. I’ll be comparing games to bg3 and saying they don’t measure up for years.
100% negative. It's BG2 dark age all over again. Soulsborne is indicative of this pattern, genre gets so popular every soulless dev wants to clone their own souls game.
Now every cRPG for the next decade is just going to be horny visual novel slop with shit gameplay. So, like before, just more horny degeneracy.
>muh degeneracy
Since when did Ganker fill up with so many prude puritans? Do you homosexuals know where you are? This board is neighbors with /d/ and /u/ ffs.
I don't like bear sex in my vidya anon. That's it.
It's a perfectly reasonable stance. Call me whatever name you like.
Here's a list of acclaimed WRPGs that have joke bestiality/monster sex:
>Fallout 2
>Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura
>Fable: The Lost Chapters
>Dragon Age: Origins
>Mass Effect 2
Funny I don't see you pearl clutching over any of those. "Perfectly reasonable" my ass.
Okay, I hate those too.
You've never played them.
Do those have a cutscene showing it?
yeah I've seen loads online of the stuff from mass effect
honestly it's sick what they were allowed to get away with, i dont know how it ever got past censors
It's just the hypocrisy that annoys people.
"we are pure and moral , our fetish shit is art."
Meanwhile they b***h and moan about any attractive women in other games. Xenoblade is a good example, screeching about the ending with multiple wives, but if they were ugly or men it would be okay.
>It's just the hypocrisy that annoys people
Your lack of self awareness is impressive
pubic half elf
mod or really in game?
it's in the game. haarlep has at
interesting
you can also get the undies in act 3 from a store don't gotta way till haarlep
Not mod.
vanilla game, no mods needed
cute butt
Personally I prefer her in Asterions underwear. Looks great in a g string thong
>Ganker thinks this is ugly
If it's not a tranime e-girl or a furry Ganker will shit on it
Here's your game's "impact" lmfao
>WOKE SHIT BEAR SEX TRANNIES TRANNIES
>w-wait.. this isn't a mod?
>goes to check price on steam
hot
NGHHHH
disgusting
gay
>ugh, it's not tranime e-girlbait
>i can't deathgrip my dick to this shit!
Get a grip (not on your dick) and develop some standards dude
why does she look like a stick? have european women never heard of a sandwich?
>t.
proper ladies shouldn't dress like that
it's a troony
still would tho
Got wiener on the mind anon?
who doesn't?
Every time bald gay 3 characters are shown in underwear I'm reminded of this body type
You thinking of males when looking at females is an inherent psychological issue. Come out of the closet.
No leaking lewd images of my wife!
i wouldn't trust her to give birth with that beanpole birthing canal #nohips
It's impact was definitely negative. RPG's will become more "biowared" and all the effort will be put in making cringy romances
>implying the romancification of RPGs is going to get noticeably worse compared to how it was after DAO, ME2, The Witcher 3, or Cyberpunk
I never said that it will be "noticeably" worse, I said that it's impact is negative. If you see a pile of shit then you shouldn't add more shit on top of it
BG3 is worse than all of those and it will get even worse still. Only degenerates will disagree
I'm a degenerate and I agree.
I don't need awkward forced romance and sex scenes, just give me decent passive lewdness and fan service.
I'd recommend against it. Shadowheart is the least unattractive of the companions, the only way to create a fully custom party is through a janky workaround, and there's very few attractive character customization options.
Crpgs were already dead because of biowareization. If anything larian games bucked the trend by having actual crpg gameplay.
It put Josh Sawyer in suicide watch, so yes
I'm just glad it happened now. I just know I don't have to waste the next 10-20 years anticipating CRPGs anymore, so I'm effectively done with the franchise now. Great for those who like it though.
>no effort dragon age origins clone with gay only companions and a nonsensical fanfiction plot
negative
lol it’s a better dragon age sequel than any of the other ones. It’s easier, it’s sexier(? I mean I saw reverse cowgirl), it’s filled to the brim with content like an over ripened maggot. It fills the hole that BioWare’s studded codpiece left.
Positive because it makes all the worst people asshurt. Case example of this buttblasted Biodrone right here
I got a few good wanks out of Karlach and Lae'zel. So it was a net positive.
>Did [pozzware]...?
Well what does it look like.
what are some recent good games that aren't pozzware
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1924400/
>FMV cutscenes
holy soul
>intentionally shitty soundquality
ughh fake soul
Pizza Tower.
Zelda Tiktok.
That one Roblox FPS.
The Great War: Western Front.
Strongholds DE.
Forza Motorsports probably.
>Strongholds DE.
>like the third remake of the only two good games Firefly have made in the last 20 years
rest are pretty good though, thanks
Robocop
net positive
>full game released, no day 1 dlc, no microtransactions
>continuous support from devs, even included an epilogue at player's request
>quality RPG that blew all other RPGs released this year out of the water
it also was in early access for over 3 years anon.
>early access games now have an example to follow whereby they listen to player feedback and use the money they get to improve the game instead of milking it and releasing a half-baked turd and running off with the bag when they get bored
you are naive anon.
larian spent 3 years implementing features for actual trannies
>I-IT WAS IN EARLY ACCESS!!
So? EA means fully released game now?
and? i bought the product, it was fully featured
Yes that is the style of development they went with and they only had act 1 available in early access. Bethesda could have done the same if they were so inclined.
it also meant everything after act 1 felt phoned in
Act 2 was fine but after that, they needed to do more work on act 3
I don't think they will, otherwise they wouldn't be releasing an Epilogue if they planned on adding more content to the main campaign.
>>full game released
It spent ages in early access, you moron.
>blew all other RPGs released this year out of the water
out of the ones i played it beat starfield and ffxvi. it is worse than octopath traveler 2, star ocean 2 remake, dragon quest monsters and trails into reverie. didn't count like a dragon ishin or any of the etrian odyssey rereleases
>octopath traveler 2, star ocean 2 remake, dragon quest monsters and trails into reverie
even the literal best jrpg in existence will never be able to compete with even a mediocre CRPG
>Erm, it didn't beat any of these JRPGs.
Weeb opinions mean nothing in regards to this discussion.
>full game released
Three years of early access and untold amount of cut content, it didn't even launch with the endings.
i bought the game at release, it's a full game unlike the unfinished starfield or rogue trader
Positive mechanically
>spells/combat lets me do wacky shit instead of amounting to spamming damage in their face
>most quests have varied ways of completing
>gear isnt level based so good stat sticks are viable well after an act or two
Main gripe is co op doesnt allow followers to tag along with you so u miss out on content that way
Don't care, didn't play.
In fact I'll just say this: I no longer enjoy or care about any videogames. Goodbye.
see you tomorrow
this miserable loser is probably already shitposting in another thread
>AIjeet
Of course you don't.
Larian is a solid company that clearly cares about their product and listens about as well as a company can, to the qualms of it's fanbase. They didn't introduce shifty DLC or paid services. So they're good.
Act 3 was weak though.
>anti-white homosexual game does good
>hurrr durr is this a good thing
here's a pity (you)
It would be funnier if the devil girl was saying gyatt
no impact. russian shill project.
after a decade of
>MUH UBISHIT SANDBOX
>MUH ESPORTS
>MUH CINEMATIC MATURE STORY DRIVEN ACTION ADVENTURE
I'll gladly take a return to more niche genres like CRPGs and a focus on single player and gameplay
Reminder over 30 studios worked on BG3. This is idea it was one passionate dev making the game they wanted to make and that's why it's so good is complete fantasy. They even outsourced the game's writing to multiple studios. Everyone is praising Larian for shit they didn't even do. BG3 tells the industry "More outsourcing. MORE! MORE! MORE!"
Gamefreak SHOULD outsource pokemon
>Outsourcing is.... le bad.
?
yes
>one passionate dev making the game
What is in the ever living frick of gaming morons who think this way?
Nobody, and I repeat nobody except you somehow believes that one singular dev made BG3.
A videogame isn't a fricking book for christ sake you frickin moron.
NormalBlack folk who played BG3 as their first CRPG and wife-beaten "gamers" who play nothing but AAA slop are to blame for that rhetoric.
>over 30 studios worked on BG3
This only makes it even more of a success story. It could have been a huge clusterfrick with that many hands in the pot.
The best part was when slot machine devs were crying on formerly known as twitter about how the standard is impossible to reach.
It made all the lazy studios seethe and cry, saying "they can't do it" or "it's not viable".
So positive.
It's not, because they don't have the budget. The idea that BG3 only cost Larian a few million dollars is laughable when they have multiple studios and used full VA and mocap.
>EA
>Ubisoft
>Blizzard
>"They don't have the budget...."
Anon.......
I thought it would have been clear by the few million dollars budget that I wasn't referring to AAA studios, but I suppose I made my own misjudgement when I interpreted anon saying smaller devs were just lazy.
>Obsidian and Bethesda
>Owned by Microsoft, who has infinite money
Obsidian had to kickstart Pillars of Eternity, anon. Some games don't automatically get publisher backing.
>because they don't have the budget
Do you know how fricking stupid you sound right now
Most intelligent Larian shill
https://exputer.com/news/games/starfield-200-million-budget-500-devs/
How many million is enough million to make good game?
apparently not 200m and 500 devs for bethesda
They'd have the budget if they cut back on the hookers n blow.
>Obsidian and Bethesda
>Owned by Microsoft, who has infinite money
>Starfield reportedly cost 300 million
>Not enough budget compared to an independent studio
Hello? Is anyone at home?
>don't have the budget
u know BG3 was funded solely by the money made from DoS:2? which was funded from the money made by DoS:1 (and kickstarter) which was kickstarted?
larian went from literally cannot afford to make a game to "too big of a budget" in 3 games because they actually spent the money on the fricking games instead of bloating staff counts 500m advertising budgets
bg3 cost 100m
elden ring was 50m to make
budget is not an excuse when the companies complaining are making 300m games with 500m advertising budget
>u know BG3 was funded solely by the money made from DoS:2?
Where was this stated?
yes, yes, your right, they did get money from presales and early access, thats true
but apart from the money that the game itself generated, which I think is perfectly fine as any other company can also do that.
The rest of it all came from DoS:2 profits
people saying they got paid to make this game, when they very clearly when the game was started saying they were negotiating for years to buy the rights to make the game because swen really wanted to make it, that they finally sealed and the deal and think the costs are worth it to get to make a game in the franchise.
they VERY clearly talked about how they had to PAY to get the license, not getting paid or have extra funding or anything
they straight up talked about how they were financing the game, that they scrapped the other game they were working on (the divinity original sin heroes or whatever, with the arena stuff using the upgraded dos 2 engine)
I understand a lot of people never played a game by larian before, that bg3 is their first one, and that they had no interest in bg3 until it launched and got a bunch of hype so people hopped on the bandwagon
but for those of us who have been around, the situation was very clear.
>100m
That is some astronomical amount of money, even 50m seems unreal. I was never interested in game budgets before and I didn't know modern games are that expensive, where all that money goes to?
>That is some astronomical amount of money, even 50m seems unreal
Full mocap + full VA with narration (some big Japanese titles don't make full VA for some reasons).
well think of it this way, lets say its a 100 developers, for 3 years
developers aren't cheap, sure, lots of them are going to be cheaper, but many will be more expensive, senior devs are a lot more expensive, and there other people in supporting staff, so lets just say each of them get 100k a year
thats already 30m, just to pay the people making the game
you need to buy and license things, be that hiring musicians, buying premade stuff (like textures, sfx, etc), licensing software like speedtree, and other bullshit.
facilities like the computers they all need to use, office space, and other bullshit.
marketing as well but its not always counted in the budget and sometimes in a separate "marketing budget"
>u know BG3 was funded solely by the money made from DoS:2?
That's bullshit, they did EA for a reason and I doubt they got $100 million from that over six years but who knows.
Presales don't become extra sales when the game comes out. Selling 1 million copies early and then 6 million at launch is effectively the same as selling 7 million copies at launch without EA.
>elden ring
>fun
Ubislop seething Black person shill spotted
this ER / BG3 gotyay meme is really taking off kek
I enjoy seeing AAA game devs seethe as much as the next guy but FromSoftware games are extremely mainstream, have a lot of corporate backing, get handled with kid gloves by the industry and game devs love sucking up to them for "gamer cred", although they obviously seethe at them behind closed doors.
Baldur's Gate 3 got a lot of positive news coverage because of Hasbro marketing but it was a critical hit to the fragile egos of incompetent diversity hire AAA game devs because a much smaller development studio released a game that people liked.
Keep in mind that game devs in the big corporate game development companies are morons and think their shitty jobs are some sort of prestige so they're elitist as hell towards "no-name" developers.
Baldur's Gate 3 buckbroke that homosexual Josh Sawyer so badly that he's been seetheposting online about it since.
>Baldur's Gate 3 buckbroke that homosexual Josh Sawyer so badly that he's been seetheposting online about it since.
Please post some highlights, I always enjoy seeing that numale traitor seethe that another dev proved him wrong
>Elden Ring
>Complete game
the game I bought on launch wasn't completed until weeks later.
Which was completely unforgiveable and glaringly obvious when 3 of the 7 actual quests in the game couldn't properly be finished.
maybe if they didnt spend $585409845094309734079 on marketing they'd have more money for dev just a thought hehe 😛
>FromSoftware
>not lazy
What are you smoking?
correct
remove elden slop and it's perfect
>positive or negative
Depends purely if you think their propaganda is good or bad for you. Since you are asking, it has a amazing positive impact for your kind.
It had a positive impact on Tencent's bank account
I'll take tencent over blackrock any day. And yes, in the world we live in, you have to choose one or the other.
Hello schizo, I saw you spamming this and just wanted to let you know that you're moronic. Not because you don't understand how shares work or what benefits a shareholder does or does not have in regards to corporate governance (because you wouldn't listen to any of this anyway). I'm going to call you moronic for not knowing what various kinds of stock exists and what they entail
After spending time looking through reputable sites, only to find nothing about the structure of Larian's shareholders, I found some random pisspoor website which mentioned the supposed shareholder breakdown for Larian; though with limited info. What it did tell me, however, were the types of shares given out to the affiliated parties.
If this unsourced twitter bullshit that you've been spamming like a lunatic is even remotely true, Tencent has absolutely no say in how the company is run on any level because their shares would be "preferred" and are not "common". What does this mean? It means they have zero (0) voting rights on what limited things shareholders would already be able to vote for in regards to the company structure. They "own" nothing because they're only in it for the money. You just saw the words 'Shares', 'Tencent', and '30%' in a single line then freaked the frick out like the tunnel-visioned idiot that you are without looking up what kinds of stock they even supposedly owned.
tl;dr Please take your meds you wienersucking cowardly piece of shit you even saged the last post like a b***h last time
>chinese shills made a disinfo copypasta
cute! still all wrong lmao
>Can be fired any time
Post your shitskin hand you piece of shit
>Give up reason for potential billions in investment injections
lmao even
>goal post moves
>doesnt post his hands
Shitskin confirmed
I bet youre a poo too
The goalposts have not moved. Larian is still a scumshit company that sold controlling shares to the Chinese in exchange for getting their clunkfest of a boring rpg out of early access hell.
Not everything topples instantly like your buildings, Ziganwu
>controlling share
This pic here
shows you its not controlling share they have no shareholder voting rights you idiot
pingpong motherchode
>keeps referencing his disinfo
irrelevant
preferred share means priority on all dividends. larian gives up the lion's share of it's profits to chinese, who demand certain things of voters to keep their dividends high in exchange for investments. This is how chinas filthy belt & road investments work in eurasia and africa.
They control the inflow of money in exchange for favors from voting shareholders.
You are NOT lying your way out of this
Except they dont own a preferred share or priority share or whatever nonsense meme you picked up from Ganker. You havent provided a single scrap of evidence they do in the first place
You, specifically, are the most moronic shill on the entire site
>doesn't name any of these supposed rights
>the only one listed is guaranteed dividend IE normal preference stocks
not an argument
>you have to name the rights for them to exist!
frick off wumao. prove the tencent stake could be any other preferred holder. burden is on you when the game is being so obviously shilled like chinaslop.
>>you have to name the rights for them to exist
That's how substantiating your claims works.
Notes for your ESL tier reading comprehension:
>non voting stock has other rights
>most preferred stocks are non-voting stock in exchange for dividend rights
>tencent is established to be preferred stocks
The onus is on you to prove that these preferred stocks aren't standard preferred stocks. If you were so confident you could substantiate that pretty easily.
Here's my substantiation
Larian before Tencent: niche crpg maker with clar flaws people admit to.
Larian after Tencent: niche crpg with clear flaws drowned out by an army of chinese shills
QED. Good luck proving otherwise.
Further claims are not substantiation.
Thats not what substantiation means
Yes anon and that idiom has a definition you're using wrongly. Which would make you the ESL as you're throwing out words you dont know the meaning of.
My apologies, friendly fire.
Were both actually me.
Thats fine
Irony is i dont even like Baldurs gate 3 nor think it deserves all the acclaim but being this moronic and spreading dumb misinfo is a crime against humanity
Honestly kinda wished I pirated it instead of buying it
It’s the same with every game tencent get involved with. this board is now infested with viral marketing, they won’t even stay on /vg/. It’s the same all over the internet for the same games.
literally disproved it here
Which you couldn't answer
>needs to post a definition of a common idiom
ESL confirmed. 'Priority' means FIRST not MORE you dumb fricking thirdie.
Fricking called it
>address it
>you never addressed it haha!
ad hom. mad chinese shill now being ignored. you lost.
>address it
Wait, you mean you.proved Tencent holds priority shares or whatever?
Oh no, you havent!
SHILL MAD!!!
Kek thanks for proving my point again
>the other right is getting paid dividends first
Dumb frick you've added nothing new to the discussion just circled back to your already disproven point
I circled back to the fact you never disproved. Seethe, shill. You don't know shit about investment stakes.
Thanks for proving me right.
That Tencent literally calls in favors that override the better will of voting stakeholders so they can keep the ccp money flowing? You're welcome, shill. Not sure why you think you're right when you're blatantly wrong.
>Not sure why you think you're right
Because you don't understand how stocks or China works and you're either underage or a legit moron. I mean, you just posted a pic that proves you wrong as "argument".
I literally just posted the facts disproving your shill argument and misunderstanding of definitions. I understand it 100% better than you. I always wiill, as I am not the only presenting disinfo as part of my shill job. You are.
You literally understood it in the opposite way. Again, either underage or moronic. Maybe both.
suck my toes
this moron is actually trying to argue a minority owner has more power then the majority, how the frick do you get this stupid
He just decided that preference shares mean "controlling shares" and now he's dying in that hill. Amazing, right?
minority stakes with preference over dividends has both a vested interest in increasing that company's profit making potential (investments) and having that company make profit-based decisions (manipulating voter decisions). Private companies cannot ignore the owner of 1/3 of their company, voting rights or no. It would be catastrophic if they either reduced investments or cut them entirely.
Shareholder investments into their stakes is never the end of investing. It is the beginning. You would know this if you werent a low IQ beglgian moron or chinese
control the money control the company. you lost, Wong
Shills have all the proof they asked for. They will receive no further replies. Cry and lie as much as you want.
Again, the only thing you you've proved (several times) its that you don't understand how stock works. Embarrassing.
> has both a vested interest in increasing that company's profit
Tencent is not going to spend money to earn a fraction of what they spent
Do you have any idea the amount of money they would need to spend advertising? How much do you think they'll get back from that?
What the fricking kind of bullshit do you think Tencent is doing behind the scenes?
>Private companies cannot ignore the owner of 1/3 of their company, voting rights or no.
When the owner of 2/3 of the private company (who's also the founder and CEO) says so, yeah they can.
>N-NO MORE REPLIES!!!
It never gets old seeing you run away with your tail between your legs when you realize your FUD campaign doesnt work on people when know what you're talking about.
Better luck next thread!
>Private companies cannot ignore the owner of 1/3 of their company
Yes they can when the other 2/3rds tell them to frick off.
>You would know this if you werent a low IQ beglgian moron or chinese
Rather ironic your calling me low iq when your dumbass thinks 1/3rd is bigger then 2/3. There is not a single place on earth where minority stakes can override the majority ones you fricking moron.
You could've saved face by calling bullshit on his source about the type or shares. But no, you had to prove yourself as a mongoloid that doesn't understand how public companies works.
Good job, moron.
Lol he actually went to another thread to continue spewing this bs
ah haha what a fricking homosexual
Why are you lying? What lions share?
Do you even know what that word means shitskin?
Preferred share means priority on LIQUIDATED ASSETS you brainlet. Only relevant if the company goes bust.
The only priority on dividends is the preset per share return rate established per preferred share at also preset intervals.
You don't know how stocks, or China works. You're either underage or a legit moron.
if i was you i'd just close the tab and forget this happened
stop posting already, everyone realizes your a moron dude
mald more you bitter gay
Why are female butts so pretty bros
Because you are biologically predisposed to find them attractive.
TLDR have a nice day
you do not understand what a minority partner is.
if 6 people own 15% and 1 person owns 10%, the 10% is the minority partner, but they are still really important.
But guess what, their vote is still really important because if 3 people vote one way, if the 10% agrees with them oops suddenly that goes through, they can swing it heavily.
but thats only when talking about voting shares, in a public company that has voting and a board.
Larian is a private company, there is no board, there is no voting, Swen owns >50%, which means he just says what fricking happens and no one can disagree, it doesn't matter how much they own, what type of share, or anything, when someone owns >50%, they make the decisions, end of story.
Especially in regards to a private company and how it functions, since Larian is private, not public.
Same as valve, gabe makes the decisions, no one can argue with him, doesn't matter if others have a stake, he owns >50%, he makes the choice.
On one hand China will keep transvestites out of games.
On the other hand they hate skeletons.
There is a literal troony in the game, not to mention all the lgbt options during character creation, shill
Who the vampire dude? Idk I didn't play it
What mental illness causes this?
This game ruined this guys life and hes now obsessed with hating it. Bad Autism is an epidemic.
Negative.
Literally the bare minimum of a game with shit gameplay is what you brainrotted morons praise as the Second Coming of Gaming Jesus.
what are some games with good gameplay
>say game
>hurr durr that one's actually bad durrrrr
I'm sure you'll be genuine
i might but unlike you i'll actually tell you why it's shit instead of being a homosexual about it
humor me
Kingdom Hearts 2.
Now have a nice day homosexual
see why was that so fricking difficult
also that game's old enough to post on Ganker, gimme something more recent
Resident Evil 4 Remake
so what makes REmake 4 good and BG3 shit then
It's an actual game for one.
Doesn't waste your time with pointless "choices", homosexual cutscenes, and 5 hour battles.
Turn on game. Get context. Start playing game. Finish game in 6-10 hours.
Only a loser homosexual moron thinks crpgs are good.
you could have saved us both time and said "CRPGs suck and I'm an impatient homosexual"
>impatient homosexual
>bro just waste your free time because you're not a homosexual neet like me watching a moron take 8 minutes to do his attack animations
Nah get better taste. You already wasted your life so I guess wasting it on a reddit game doesn't matter
you're on Ganker in 2023, don't give me this bullshit about you worrying about wasting your time
negative effect because it appealed to white women and succeeded
Fun fact: shadowheart's ass is so huge, it crops thru the dress
Asses way too fricking fat
More like GYAT gate
I'd say it had a positive impact on the gayming industry. Get it? You can have gay butt sex with other male characters in-game. Hahahaha.
maybe it'll make Todd wake the frick up and not ruin the next Elder Scrolls
Somehow Todd forgot how to environmental storytelling and memorable side characters.
Now the schizo is gonna go
>HAHA I MADE THE CHINKS MAD LMAO!!!!
and continue repeating himself without addressing anything that was said.
And he'll be back in the next thread with the exact same image and (intentional?) misunderstanding of stock practices.
>it is worse than these literally who games
not the own you think it is lmao
Look, I haven't picked up a video game in a decade but decided I'd give Baldur's Gate a try when I saw how much praise it was getting, and within 10 minutes of booting it up I knew that this was not only the best video game ever made, but also the only video game ever made. All other developers in history should be ashamed and sickened that instead of making BG3, they chose to develop whatever non-BG3 plebeian drivel they had the audacity to call video games.
Take it easy they aren't paying you by the word
Positive because it makes chuddies seethe non stop all day and all night just by existing.
Chuddies aren't real anon
chud are legion for we are many
>rightists hate it
undeniably positive
none or possibly negative.
i think the response from the industry overwhelmingly suggests that they just don't get it, and never will.
>they think it came out of nowhere and was a huge surprise
its fricking Baldur's Gate, it launched into early access and day 1 instantly looked like it was going to be a new marquee moment for CRPG, and it was, surprising zero fans of the genre. yes the really mainstream success was a little surprising, but not really.
>jumping to excuses why they can't do it
excuse after excuse that could not in the slightest hide their greed. we don't have the talent, we don't have the studio tooled for this specific task (we had it but already dissolved them to save money), it's too risky to make that sort of game. it all said one simple thing "we can't pump this out cheaply and milk GaaS money from it, so we won't bother".
all Larian did was stick to their guns, try to make a good game, and release it. that's it. does that sound like a complete stretch too far for the games industry?
somehow, yes...
they don't know what a fun game is, they don't play them. they don't have creative ideas. all they can do is sit in board rooms and try to chase market trends. Fortnight, LoL, whatever it is that year; how to we pump out our own version cheaply and milk it as hard as possible? and they'll kill any studio with promise and talent, the moment it doesn't pan out.
I dont think it will affect anything. No reason for anyone outside RPGs to care. Within the CRPG genre, party-based, linear, narrative focused, DnD-slop games like BG, DOS, Pathfinder, Pillars, etc. Are already the most popular and numerous sub-genre of CRPG that are over saturating the market. BG3 will just reinforce the existing precident.
It may affect AAA WRPG-slop like Bioshit or Toddslop. Since they attract the same braindead audience.
meds
Where’s the rest?
echosaber is the artist, the sequel is the red lady eating out the elf
Remember how ubisoft tower ruined games?
BG3 is gonna do the same too.
We just have yet to see which feature yet.
turn based is back, zoomer shits, get the frick away from my crpgs with that real time with pause garbage
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>Substantiation isn't substantiation
Do not reply to me again. You are worthless.
>afraid of yous now
kek
Go on and explain why shills (another claim) existing makes tencent's preferred stock nonstandard preferred stock. That's not substantiation you fricking idiot.
If you weren't an underage moron, you could add some facts to those feelings.
>called BALDurs Gate
>the c**ts are hairy
>called baldur's gays
>its actually about cucks
welp
Why do moronic homosexuals derail every bg3 with stock spam?
Because the tencentschizo is a butthurt tortroony who thinks he can redeem himself (pun intended) by derailing bg3 threads on Ganker. It is as gloriously pathetic as it sounds
Damn she shits from that ass??
brown out AND in
In my honest opinion it will most likely have a net negative impact, some good will come of it like more CRPGs only about 5% will be good from bigger studios, but like most larger studios they will completely miss the mark on what made BG3 good and just make soulless husks trying to emulate it. I feel it will be akin to Escape from Tarkov and the genre it created, when it got popular a ton of other companies tried and failed to make copies of it while only 1 MAYBE 2 games succeeded in having a player base but even then it is just not the same as the original in any capacity.
baldurs gate has a femdom rape scene? holy shit i need to torrent this slop NOW
It can be whatever you want depending on your character. You can ask for the devil to change into a women but it is default a guy for story reasons.
>as they please
Is this a futa or does the game use troony language for everyone?
It is a devil that can shapeshift into either male or female
>they
>all the characters have the exact same body type
There's a few different factors.
1. This super-successful game was made without any of the trappings of modern AAA (creative freedom, no microtransactions, no live service, no crunch, long game without resorting to Ubisoft tower open world design, dev team is self-sufficient and doesn't belong to a huge corporation) without looking cheaply made. This highlights the limitations of massively-budgeted AAA games and helps push that scene towards collapse. This is a big positive.
2. D&D as a setting and CRPGs as a genre will absolutely have a resurgence because of BG3. Hasbro's been shitting the bed with WotC so I don't know if they'll deserve the success but if they frick up enough then people will just go to Pathfinder. CRPGs were pretty sparse and now more will probably be greenlit or given more money to chase BG3's trend. Slight positive.
3. It brought many people into gaming that otherwise didn't care or were casuals or had a passing interest in D&D from its revival in the streaming era via Critical Role and all that. Who knows if they stick around. Neutral leaning on negative.
4. Nudity and sex scenes in a mainstream GOTY winner is pretty major I think. Whether this is positive or negative really just depends on your perception.
So yeah, a positive impact overall.
>long game without resorting to Ubisoft tower open world design
What the frick do ubisoft towers have to do with CRPGs?
because most of the marketing of this game was to compare itself to diablo 4, people make arguments that don't make sense just because it fits their narrative.
ubisoft towers hadn't been a thing for almost 8 years
you don't need to press enter twice here redditor
>because most of the marketing of this game was to compare itself to diablo 4
What.
>almost 8 years
Lmao the upcoming FF is literally ubislop.
>muh reddit spacing
It's a single line break you dumb Black person. Just stop posting.
you're free to argue against any of my points posted here
please address them if I'm wrong, because you said here
that you have no interest in replying but did it twice already
When someone disagrees with you online and demands you prove your point to their satisfaction by writing a complete and logically sound defense including citations, you can save a lot of time by not doing that. I've known you for twenty minutes and enjoyed none of them, I'm not taking assignments from you.
Man's lost. Enjoy being a grunt in this supposed ideological war you think you're in. You're also wrong on every point btw.
>you're free to argue against any of my points posted here
I don't think I will lmao
Before they patched it, I pretty much robbed every act 1 Shop with that 1gp bag trick and I don't feel even an ounce of shame considering how the game basically has you systematically wiping out group after group methodically. Oh you're throwing an entire Goblin Camp at me? Well all my dudes are kitted out in blue gear and have an entire library of spell scrolls so get fricked lol
Sticking out your gyat for the rizzler
You're so skibidi
You're so Fanum Tax
I just wanna be your sigma
Freaking come here
Give me your Ohio
>Demon woman with a big but in a pantsuit/tuxedo
Was so horny I typoed and forgot an image.
too early to say. i'd like to think it had a positive effect and that it spurned some formerly good devs on to think "i guess we can also make a good game if we try," but i know better than to think that.
money is king, so big studios will just dismiss BG3 as lightning in a bottle and continue churning out diversified GAAS crap
Does BG3 have NTR? Asking for a friend
yes, alot. it also has BLACKED and trans and gay sex
Post proof
Negative.
It won't change the shitty practices the dominate the industry, all the while encouraging more wokeshit and shitty lewd content meant primarily for demographics that don't buy games.
I'm thinking of doing melee bardlock (pact of the blade + swords school) build for honor mode.
Should I go 5 lock 5 bard 2 fighter, or 7 lock 5 bard? Keep in mind that extra attack from pact of the blade doesn't stack with other sources of extra attacks in honor mode, so leveling bard to 6 and up is pointless.
If your doing swordschool, there no real reason to go fighter. i'd just go 7 lock
There's always a reason to go 2 fighter for almost any class - action surge.
I already played sorcerer run on my 1st playthrough.
>There's always a reason to go 2 fighter for almost any class - action surge.
i suppose but a 4th level spell slots feels way more useful, specially fire wall or black tentacles, since AOE enviroment spells are so good in thsi game
>black tentacles
fair play is for suckers
>lock/bard
doesnt unga bunga'ing with a poibty stick get old for you? Play sorc
>shadowcuck
She didn't cuck you, you cucked her, moron. You either didn't play the game, a bait moron or an ESL or maybe all of them.
the effect was definitely positive but it's a unicorn that we won't see again for a long time. how bg3 worked out was that they went early access and got a shitload of money and instead of it going to their heads, it made the devs happy that people liked their game and they just kept pouring their heart and soul into it.
i bought it the first day it was out for EA on steam and i remember over the years feeling worried that larian was stalling because they couldn't finish the game or were having problems. then one day i logged in after a break and saw all the new content updates and was like holy shit this game is going to crush it. then after another few years it released and did in fact crush it.
bg3 is a big win for the devs and for the people who supported its development financially.
>Make a College of Swords Bard
>Put a point into dual-wielding when I leveled up just to use dual-wielding
Is this normal? Or did I frick up and CoS bards get dual-wielding automatically at some point?
You fricked up when you tried to dual wield in 5e.
Don't swords bards get TWF fighting style? I'm not quite sure why you'd grab dual wielder the benefits seem marginal
You can dual wield weapons from the get go with no prerequisites, two-weapon fighting style just makes your off-hand attacks benefit from ability score modifier.
Nah its fine, but the really cool bard/lock weapon you get on act 3 you cant have an off weapon so its kinda not worth it at that point in the game
Im glad the canon couple is shadow heart and FUTA karlach.
very based and kino.
i still don't understand how they got away with everything: skimpy clothing, literal sex, visible genitalia, etc. without any of the fallout that games got in the '10s.
remember how much shit dead or alive got?
western vidya reviewers hate japan
Games having lewd content is only a nono in the shareholder's mind. It's an unwritten taboo that nobody really cares about at all, a ghost from past eras
The sexual content was heavily geared towards the sensibilities of the Twitter crowd. That's why it's kind of gross and is infused with a lot of unfunny humor.
>i still don't understand how they got away with everything: skimpy clothing, literal sex, visible genitalia, etc. without any of the fallout that games got in the '10s.
It's really simple, bro; Larian is a private company. That's the long and short of it. No board, no investors, no external meddling = freedom to do whatever you want with your game.
They got away with publically because they made it degenerate for all.
Astarion, Halsin and the squid for one half, Shadowheart, Karlach and Laezel for the other.
The game appeals to nearly everyone
>freedom to do whatever you want with your game.
You're still limited by IP's owner THOUGH.
Forgotten Realms is one of the most coomer settings in existence. It's CANON, for example, that drow females use magic to grow futa wieners.
But do you mean actual wieners as in wieners or just making their clits bigger to the point they can penetrate others? Because the other was my idea for my fantasy setting and now I feel less original and degenerate...
Where is this bit of lore from? I've seen it mentioned before but never the source.
Probably one of the older editions.
The Drow were made as fetish fuel originally.a race of evil sexy elf women who treat me like slaves.
But then writers started making them cartoonishly matriarchal and depraved. Some fricker even wrote in to canon that pregnant Drow get super orgasms when on of their fetuses kills another in the womb, which is the primary incentive for a Drow woman to carry a child to term.
>sexy elf women who treat me like slaves.
nice Freudian slip lmao
>Some fricker even wrote in to canon that pregnant Drow get super orgasms when on of their fetuses kills another in the womb
that's crazy and very hot
Thinking drow were invented for fap bait and then citing lore from like, the awful books at the tail end of 3rd edition is a bizzare thing to do
>Lore from the creators of the drow don't count, because I don't like it.
The simple truth is Baldur's Gate 3 got so much good press, and covered it's bases in other ways (that headline creating bear sex scene wasn't done with a heterosexual couple for a reason), that trying to tear it down with the usual moral panic stuff just wasn't gonna fly. That's always how it is. It doesn't even have to be stupendous mainstream hits like BG3 either. You should see how frustrated some people get that Bayonetta gets away with being talked about normally without being drowned out by shitposting about the sexualization. Hell, even the gachas get away with it now if they're big enough (Genshin Impact, GBF, etc.)
It's sort of a dice roll sometimes, but when it rolls right you get things like this where the sheer quality, or appeal, outweighs attempts to try and make a thing about it. And in the reverse: a game is not appealing enough, or its quality is considered dubious enough, that all positive talk about it never appears because the shitposting about it makes it untenable. After all, you don't want to be one of those people taking the pedo fighter game seriously, do you?
>go into lower level of tower
>evil gnome in hot sex outfit with her breasts out
>*neurons go bing bing*
>kill hot gnome
>can’t even take the sex outfit
Pure torment
Anyone has the uncensored pic
nice
Wish there was more Karlach stuff out there.
Mildly interested.
Porn artists have the worst fricking sense of humour
Yeah it's either these idiocies or the latest memes. And then they have the gal to cry about AIs
Allow me to prognosticate:
No lasting impact.
Negative.
>Did baldur’s gate 3 have a positive or negative impact on the gaming industry?
depends if I can impregnate women in the game.
Chaotic good impact
We might see some more sex and romance in games because of it.
But it’s done so awkwardly in BG3. I hope others don’t copy it 1:1
Negative, we will only see "theme park" rpgs now with no with no cohesive world or serious narrative
When I encountered male party members I would just kill them.
is this the gooning thread. if not can someone please direct me to the gooning thread
let's see
>bring more normal gays into this garbage industry
>bestiality, troony and gays
>mutts and lesbians in a medieval setting
>unfinished trash, but praised by everyone while being 3 years into EA and 6 years into making
>shit gameplay, but muh choices and cooming
yeah, made this garbage industry worse
>in a medieval setting
Nope. Baldur Gates is not a medieval setting.
>Nope. Baldur Gates is not a medieval setting.
yeah, instead is a African setting
go back to your beastiality and comming simulator subhuman, you don't play real games anyway
>criticize the game with real arguments
>4 shills defending it not even 4 min later and 4 posts in a row
haha, kinda funny how this game have the worst fanbase overnight
>He lives on the Medieval continent
>My favorite time period of history was the African time period
frickin moron
>
>>Nope. Baldur Gates is not a medieval setting.
>yeah, instead is a African setting
>
>go back to your beastiality and comming simulator subhuman, you don't play real games anyway
>
>let's see
more normal gays into this garbage industry
, troony and gays
and lesbians in a medieval setting
trash, but praised by everyone while being 3 years into EA and 6 years into making
>>shit gameplay, but muh choices and cooming
>yeah, made this garbage industry worse(You)
the game with real arguments
>>4 shills defending it not even 4 min later and 4 posts in a row
>haha, kinda funny how this game have the worst fanbase overnight
I can hear the gay lisp in this post lol
>medieval setting
>in a medieval setting
NTA but how would you call this? Steampunk? It looks futuristic but it's also a fantasy world where people still use swords??? Kinda weird
Magitech
It's magical technology, and I mean it really isn't hard to understand it happened in a fantasy setting that way.
When magic can be learned, it's powers tamed and harnessed to do stuff like instant communication, teleportation, make transportation easier, etc your society is going to start advancing further as well in tune with the physical boundaries or constraints of that universe.
That doesn't explain why would anybody still use swords in a world like this
>That doesn't explain why would anybody still use swords in a world like this
Swords = cool. That's about the skinny of it, well that and fantasy in it's infancy used a lot of medieval stuff in's early popularization, and so it stuck.
Also, fighters have inhuman strength/abilities that make them insanely deadly via skills/drugs/etc/magical armor, so they didn't inherently become extinct for long range combat like in modern day.
>fighters have inhuman strength/abilities
I'm reminded of the time that the designers of 5e stated publicly that picking up a weapon by tying it to your wrist with a cord in order to avoid using an entire action to do so was not something that should be allowed, as they got all the fat, out of shape morons in the office to waste an hour failing to grab computer mice that they tied to their wrists and attempted to flick it into their hands.
>That doesn't explain why would anybody still use swords in a world like this
Picrel is also fricking stupid
It isn't. The moment your technological/magical level allows for masses of infantry to become near-immune to projectiles, melee weapons come back into play.
That's one of the neat things KOTOR did to explain why melee weapons are still used - mass produced energy shields made so that blasters are no longer the be all, end all of personal weapons.
I would argue that Faerun is more of a Renaissance setting. Trade and commerce are booming in the Sword Coast and they have functional banking.
Even in the early stages of industrialization, with the minds to kick production off and a functional factory already fully realized
It IS a Renaissance setting, especially the Sword Coast. Baldur's Gate is en ex-pirate cove that wasn't even named "Baldur's Gate" until a few hundred years ago, that got rich thanks to said pirate named Balduran, who sponsored a wall for the town.
>let's see
more normal gays into this garbage industry
, troony and gays
and lesbians in a medieval setting
trash, but praised by everyone while being 3 years into EA and 6 years into making
>>shit gameplay, but muh choices and cooming
>yeah, made this garbage industry worse
Positive. It exposed other devs laziness and money greediness, as well as Ganker's being the bunch of homosexuals and bear frickers.
Other devs probably learned wrong things about it's success and in the next few years we're gonna get tons of games where you can frick animals.
>we're gonna get tons of games where you can frick animals
Sounds like the devs learned the right things.
We will see. Hopefully we get more dating sims
Did you miss the whining of the people defending multi-million dollar corporations?
Larian showed us that good games are still possible and that early CRPGs quality weren't flukes.
>perfect traced body
>can't draw faces
why?
Would be a positive if any impact could be had but there will be none.
Slightly net positive. Screwed starfield because it made people realize Bethesda is stuck in the past and lazy. Potentially could convince data/market analysts to reanalyze the crpg market and convince their bosses that it is a viable market now due to bg3's success, critical role and accessibility of 5e. So essentially there is a chance of another triple A crpg in the future not made by larisn
>full on RPG steals the thunder from every AAA game with """RPG elements""" and shows that there is a real market for turn based story driven games in the mainstream
but
>its up to its fricking neck in just about every kind of degeneracy under the sun, even if its to its own detriment like your party members throwing themselves at you without warning. Expect more of this from other studios in the future. Also they will advertise it with gay furry feral sex, but lord forbid you want to frick a goblin
talk about a fricking monkeys paw
>Party members throwing themselves at you.
That was a bug, one that caused "late game" romance flags to trigger much too early. It's been patched.
Even worse, the fact that it was in Early Access for years means that slop can still be churned out and kept on low heat until a marketing blitz happens for 1.0.
It was succesful because people played it and had fun, something that Ganker can't experience anymore because Ganker prefers to argue instead of actually playing the game.
Aldo because it had no zoomer catcher stuff like battle passes, DLCs or stuff like that.
>inb4 deluxe edition
Literal cosmetics and a letter that says "thank you for your support".
I beat it in the first month after full release. It was shit experience.
>dialed to eleven realism models which look entirely out of place
>ugly as frick on top of it
>extreme close ups in every dialogue, event and cutscene which not only skips imagination part of rpg entirely it also looks fricking atrocious due to andromeda tier uncanny volley face mocap
>5e is shit edition, doubly so if you can't rummage through splats and choose interesting parts
>larian gimmicks with verticality, dipping, jumps etc aren't fricking helping it either
>story is shit, both in narrative and writing, nevermind huge dumps larian take on setting to shoehorn illithid wank
>for all the hailed choices there is only one that does anything and it is in first act
>and by does anything i mean it locks you out of significant portion of content offering almost nothing to replace it with
Sometimes I think the gay shit, the bear, and Shartcucking was added purely to the game to undermine any actual discussion of the negatives of this game.
Negative. Mass censorship and degeneracy. They even censored people who made mods taking the gay out.
>Ganker main problem with the game is that they constantly encounter bestiality and homosexualry
>game doesnt force players into bestiality and homosexualry unless they go through the multiple stages of specific dialogues, consciously or subconsciously
It exposed Ganker as a bunch of exposed homosexuals and bear frickers, so they are mad at the game
i did because i just thought it was funny
I don't play games with black people in the main cast, so I don't see me picking up BG3 any time soon.
>straight white male romance option has fade to black sex scene
they did this on purpose.
I never see anyone discuss the gameplay of this game. Just sex. Is beast master ranger fun?
>I never see anyone discuss the gameplay of this game
>said the tranimegay in a thread with an ongoing builds discussion
Yeah, that tracks
discussing 5e =/= discussing baldur's gate 3. Nice try wienersmoker.
except nobody is discussing 5E here. Why are tranimegays so moronic that they cant follow a thread?
>I never see anyone discuss the gameplay
Because it's just a neutered 5e, and 5e isn't a particularly deep or interesting system. It's not so terrible that you can mock it day in and day out, but it's inoffensive at best and story is what makes or breaks the enjoyability of any game (video or tabletop) using it.
>Is beast master ranger fun?
It's quite literally the single worst archetype in 5e bar none. Ranger in general got shafted, just play Druid and get Find Familiar through a feat or something.
>I never see anyone discuss the gameplay of this game
Literally in this very thread a few hours ago.
>Is beast master ranger fun?
No. I will not elaborate as to why because you sound like a gay whose sole intention is to stir up shit.
too much work to replicate, industry will not course correct as current course bring enough money
Which do you think makes more money. BG3 or micro transactions?
people who buy microtransactions need to be shot
it'd be like if boomers figured it'd be okay for movie theatres and directors to add in certain scenes/have the main character of the movie wear a different outfit for a 10 dollar premium
micro transactions no question, if the insominac leak proved anything it's that micro transactions are just pure profit, they cost nothing to make and rake in insane money.
But Insomniac's games don't have micro transactions?
Net neutral, maybe leaning negative. It shows the value of giving a frick about your production in RPGs, namely voice acting and animation, but holy shit the writing is bad. Also encourages more dredging up of old IPs just to profit off the name. Let's be real, the Baldur's Gate story was finished, there was no need to drag its corpse into the limelight for this disaster.
Really, it'll just spawn imitators who rather than imitating the good production value, imitate the constant sex and normiebait writing. Also 5e is shit.
Have you seen the reviews on Rogue Trader from people who liked BG3?
Naturally negative.
The bleeding and festering wound BG3 inflicted on the entire CRPG genre will not heal for many, many years to come....
I'm afraid we have a situation of shitcher 3 wild puke level again.
A bunch of zoom-zoom guys will get into the genre and because of their number and their desire to devour undigested feces, as well as because of their aggression towards real games - the whole genre will change for many years.
Good morning, sir.
Those sound like useful complaints for development, followed by some dude malding while wearing the avatar of a character who means nothing in the game he's in
I played BG1 and 2 back when they came out and replayed them again a year before BG3's release. I don't really care for BG3 as a BG game which is easy enough to do because of how long it's been and how Wizards has already shat all over the city and the setting over the years anyway. As a game though, BG3 is fantastic. While I love classic CRPGs, BG3 really shows has stagnant they've been mechanics wise because all they ever bother to do is adapt rules without ever giving them interactivity and freedom. Being able to throw anything that isn't nailed down, jumping being an actual action that helps with the verticality that the game has and most RPGs don't, lots of destructible objects and physics props, interactions between spells, etc.
I'm playing Rogue Trader right now and I do appreciate the narrative focus, and I always love how grand the scale of Owlcat's games are with how you assume a high position and manage things and explore a gigantic (on paper) map, gameplay-wise it's again back to being really primitive, hell, even more primitive than most other CRPGs because all you do in the overworld is run around until combat starts because there's not much to interact with. The world is massively skippable and you walk past most of it because there's nothing there. Of course, it's a hundred times much lower budget game and I'd rather they stick to what they do best than rock the boat, but it's a stark contrast and shows how much of a game changer BG3 could be if developers follow in its footsteps.
There's a game I spotted on Steam that might be similar in how it tries to focus on mechanics rather than just being combat simulator since it promises environmental destruction, verticality, elements and lets you jump. It's been in the works for much longer than BG3's been out, but either way I really hope developers keep going in this direction with RPGs.
What's the name of that other game you mentioned anon?
Being able to put a silence bubble on a cracked wall and then smash it without alerting guards is the kind of shit I wish more games did. BG3 has this immersive sim feel to it at times and I love it.
Other developers making RPG games need to develop beter engines. Currently there is no other engine out there for RPGs to do similar things to the engine Larian are using. On top of that Larian now boosted their production to stupedous levels with all the mocapped scenes, voiced dialogues and unique music for different encounters that sometimes are even a part of the encounter AKA the harpies or the song of Balduran that you can hear in the Elfsong Tavern being sang by the spirit inhabiting the place.
I am enjoying Rogue Trader for what it is(only a few hours in) but if it had the production of BG3 and a better engine it would've been an even better game.
I mean, the bodies are fine and and dandy, but there's just something about western faces in games that looks off-putting, and it seems to get worse as graphical fidelity improves.
its called you being a pedophile
More like undicky valley kek
They have this opinionated expressions, cunning b***h brows, like they are thinking and judging things. They remove the female innocence from them and they look annoying and obnoxious.
Are pubic hair canon?
>Kill Halsin
>Gameplay improved
Funny how that works.
Good. Todd-sama did not deserve to win GOTY.
It's lessons were already known, but they will never learn or practice in large scale, Larian was one small studio using a IP that the owners were throwing in the trash
Lessons of the game:
>waifus and sex sells
Obviously going against the feminazi ideology
>effort and good production sells on it's own
Going against the lazy israelites principles of half-assing everything they do
You will never see this be implemented into AAA
>BG3
>Waifus
Why ask questions you already know the answer to?
Why does every bg3 thread reek of CCP shills?
It will be good for the AAA industry
It will be bad for the crpg niche that will inevitably be vandalized by the AAA industry
>When Harleep starts to sing in his final encounter
Whilst I'd like to believe something good will come of this, I doubt it. BG3 could even poison the well for the genre as a whole, with outsiders to CRPGs demanding they get more BG3-likes to the detriment of everything else.
>with outsiders to CRPGs demanding they get more BG3-likes to the detriment of everything else.
>more BG3-likes
BASADO
>BG3-likes
Anon... I...
If you prefer I can call them DOS-likes, but there's a huge portion of BG3's fanbase (arguably the majority) who haven't even touched the Original Sin games in order to realize BG3 is actually DOS3 in disguise.
Would you be surprised to find out that BG3 boosted the sales of D:OS and D:OS2?
>but there's a huge portion of BG3's fanbase (arguably the majority) who haven't even touched the Original Sin games in order to realize BG3 is actually DOS3 in disguise.
it isnt the same tho at all anon.
im getting and replying late to this, but I had DOS2 for years and never got out of fort joy because the combat was just less fun.
5E rulesets and I beat BG3.And all its side content.
same guy
Most CRPGs are niche anyway, I really doubt the success of BG3 will have any bearing on Owlcat's devoted fanbase for instance. They'll keep utilizing kickstarter and force shit like Dervin and Blackwater into the main story in order to keep going.
BG3 is so much worse than owlcat games
BG3 is THE WOKEST shit i've ever seen.
Plus owlcat game are actually games with gameplay and builds, while Bg3 is glorified movie FFS
Just compare them head-on and you will see how big the difference is
Owlcat games has more value than BG3 because they are better in everything besides prerender bear gay sex movies
They have better gameplay, better writing, better build making, better plot, better music FFS
not watching schizo shit
get downboated nig :v)
>complains about wokeshit
>shills Owlkek games
Owlcat isn't woke! Well, Kingmaker has two companions that are in an open relationship and you can frick and marry both of them at the same time. Okay well WOTR isn't woke - Uh, maybe ignore the transgender and his mommy orc gf. Or the fact that the only true and straight romance options is with a succubus that has had thousands of bodies under her belt.
Net positive because of Shadowaifu of course!
Need to snort that shithole so bad.
homosexuals on Ganker are all fat and moronic so they have just given up on reasonable standards for women just to spite the world.
Every woman needs to have a figure like 2B as drawn by a furry with an inflation fetish, otherwise she is a troony plank or whatever
Nevermind that every woman in the game is thin and toned with perky c-cups with long legs and a nice ass, because WHERES MY H-CUP JIGGLE PHYSICS NOOOO THIS GAME IS POZZED
all this but completely unironically
What made you think anything I said was ironic you actual mouthbreather. I stated that was what you touchless homosexuals think. No hyperbole. Its sad.
Nah it's BASED. Get them ugly shits outta video games.
Yes. What is the issue?
he has a point.
>6 euro discount for a 3 year old game
Wow!
reminder that the genre was as good as dead a mere 10 years ago, how much harm can it really do?
>owlshill begs for attention in BG3 thread
>felt like rogue trader was objectively worse than BG3
>finished rogue trader despite all the gamebreaking bugs
>couldnt be bothered to finish BG3
what's wrong with me?
>what's wrong with me?
Sounds like cognitive dissonance, for starters.
Probably attention span issues? Rogue trader is quite a bit shorter than BG3.
Melania has rot-aids, yet still has a better ass.
considering it proved everything AAA publishers have been pushing for the past decade were lies, hopefully a positive. Game doesn't have Denuvo so go ahead and pirate it, it already sold about 7 million copies and there's plenty of 5e homosexuals out there that are willing to buy the special physical edition to put on their virginity shelves as well as a d20 to shove up their girlfriend's ass.
The reaction of AAA dev trying to explain that BG3 couldn't be replicated, only to show the entire world that the AAA development model is so bloated and obsess by the shareholder profit it can't do what Larian team (a smaller team without AAA budget) could do make it a positive.
They litteraly say they couldn't do it because they can't have a stable dev team, with experience on their engine and can't have a longer game development cycle where you listen to player feedback.
>The reaction of AAA dev trying to explain that BG3 couldn't be replicated
They can't even replicate simpler and older games. Insomniac spent 300 million for 20 hrs game (100%) and sold it for 70 USD. That's a fricking scam.
I imagine
>positive
releasing good, full vidya
>negative
more degeneracy in vidya
>no buttplug outline sticking out under her dress
lame
shadowheart had a boner impact on my penis
At most maybe more nudity and sex in games. No AAA game is gonna bother with the scope that bg3 had
>roleplaying game
>Level 25 mage
>Probably trained his whole life becoming good at magic in roleplaying terms
>Give 100 gold to a zombie
>Can no longer cast magic but is now a holy paladin without a minute of training
This game is utter trash and it disgusts me to this day that it is allowed to drag the name of Baldurs Gate through the shit
t. didn't actually play the game
Dude just respecc
Dude race doesn't matter in BG btw
Dude gender doesn't matter btw
Dude alignment doesn't matter btw
This game is dog dumpster trash
>Level 25 mage
Epic reaction images bro
Complements your braindead shitposting
you can adjust the number i did not play or purchase the game berceuse of these and other points
it's trash and not baldurs gate
this is not me
>i did not play the game
Yeah we know.
You're so moronic there's no way it doesn't negatively affect every aspect of your life.
dude i love dumped down goyslop too
most important part is that there are hot b***hes
frick the roleplaying part haha!
You haven't played it. Opinion discarded.
Complaining about a convenience feature such as respeccing ruining immersion is genuinely moronic, and the fact that you're trying to act smug about it is like trying to act smug about your game's pause button doesn't actually pause time.
Idk what to say you should be vivisected in the name of science to better understand and help morons all over the world go to the toilet without pissing themselves for "immersion"
are you being paid to post this objectively false opinion about roleplaying?
>objectively
>opinion
I'm going to be the 3rd (4th?) person itt to call you a moron.
>objectively false opinion
No, ill poke your down syndrome ass for free. You're the stupidest poster i've seen all week and now you're crying shill, like a blind and deaf, piss stained invalid at a mental hospital trying to soothe the voices in his head.
How about you roleplay having a brain first?
>dumb downed
people keep saying this and outing themselves as brainlets
stacking 20 feats to get your tohit to +30 isn't roleplaying, interesting or complex, it's just fricking boring. Call me when your cRPG has platforming, real verticality, real stealth, prison systems, letting you kill any NPC, actual magic like speak with dead/animals/detect thoughts/fly/gust of wind/polymorph/seeming, etc etc. Or throwing. Or destructible environments, and on and on and on.
Then we'll talk.
sure, how much are you investing?
>no argument
yeah get fricked kid.
I concede
BG3 delivered good game with hot b***hes and Ganker complains about it
and they go to next thread to reeeeeee about how western games can't into pretty women
It's just shitposters. It's the same people that complain about Cyberpunk 2077 when that game also gave us a ton of hot b***hes and first person action RPG goodness.
It acts as a precedent to justify devs putting in more attractive characters
>But BG3 girls are ugly
Compared to western standards they are sex symbols
post one japanese game with more attractive characters
There are also a ton of attractive side characters and villains. I mean Mizora is pure sex!
My new desktop.
Negative.
Now normies will destroy both P&P and cRPGs.
BG3 had no impact at all tbh. These discord raids are probably the only thing it'll be remembered for.
Invite to your discord?
Are the sex scenes good?
They are fine for a game that is not a WEG. As far as sex scenes go Cyberpunk 2077 and BG3 have the best sex scenes to date.
>most important part is that there are hot b***hes
If you hate hot b***hes in games you have been infected with the woke mind virus
thanks elon i love diablo 4 too
bg3 and d4 are both really good games
No d4 sucks just like you
it'll be easier to tell within a few years after devs of other games have time to shamelessly ape whatever their gut tells them was key to BG3's success
Negative, or at least it exposed a lot of negative stuff
>BG3 schizo is a phoneposter
This is like my first or second time talking about bg3 what’s your problem
nobody believes you bear broken moron.
Guess you were projecting with that schizo comment
Pedophile "Weebs" who use moronic buzzwords like "tranime" getting utterly bearbroken will never not be funny.
Okay you admit you’re a zoophile freak
Nope. But thanks for admitting you're a pedophile.
Nope you’re projecting again
You don't know what that word means.
of all the weird shit to get angry about BG3, i really don't understand the anime fans projecting their own censorship troubles on to the game.
It’s hypocrisy. Can’t show anime girl skin but bear sex is cool in the eyes of censorship and gaming journalists.
why do you spend your time listening to gaming journalists' opinions? it's companies like sony who demand the censorship. there is no hypocrisy on larian's behalf.
It’s not exactly larian or the game itself at fault, but the fact that it gets a pass while Sony and journalists (who affect public opinion and therefore censorship by companies) always go after any anime game fanservice.
they why stay angry at bg3. direct your anger elsewhere.
I don’t stay angry about it I just posted that picture because it describes the hypocrisy revealed by the game.
nta but hypocrisy is getting mad about muh degeneracy while pretending you have a principled stance against censorship.
Both groups are hypocrites, but at least Ganker's influence on the industry is very limited
then why are you preaching to the converted on Ganker instead of fighting your good fight elsewhere?
So are gaming journalists at this point. Some low paid freelancer churning out click bait like "why Cammy's thighs are problematic" has microscopic influence and clout even compared to actual big name influencer ecelebs on twitch and yt
BG3 is the first time I've seen a modern video game where the voice actresses are actually cute and hot in real life to match their sexy voices and vibe of ingame models instead of turning out to be nasty frumpy ogres IRL that you wish you never looked up. Froggie's VA is a straight up Stacey.
BG3 taught the industry that you can release unfinished games and normalgays will still consume that slop up and even thank afterwards so negative impact, I guess.
no, that was cyberpunk and about 10 other games
People were very critical of CP at launch though. BG3 taught that you only need to polish the first 1/3rd of your game, the rest doesn't really matter since people won't be playing to the end anyway.
BG3 was nowhere as unfinished as Cyberpunk was at launched and it was updated far more quickly and consistently than most games. You people act like 1/3rd of the game was missing at launch, it's beyond disingenuous. Especially considering this is a genre where most games are even more unfinished at launch despite being low budget.
>the rest doesn't really matter since people won't be playing to the end anyway.
That's most games that take +50 hours to beat on a blind playthrough. There are few games of BG3s length where more than a third of the owners actually beat it
And that's because companies keep frontloading their games.
Because BG3 didn't launch on PS5...
It's because most people just don't finish their games, especially when they're long. BG3 has an higher than average completion rate considering how long the average first playthrough is.
>And that's because companies keep frontloading their games.
3rd act is ~50% of the game.
>Because BG3 didn't launch on PS5...
Only one big performance bug (memory leak in the city) during launch, my friend. You can't compare these games.
BG3 didn't get warning plaque from Sony. Stop comparing these games.
Yes, BG3 is the first high profile unfinished game to be released in video game history.
The game is pretty good. If you're worried about gays, chinks, and whatever then you got the bad ending. I bet if a guy would hit on you, you'd get angry.
BG3 was a step forwards in normalization of bestiality. So it was negative for the industry.
You don't actually believe this
I do. A best-selling game comes out that has hardcore sex between man and animal, and everyone makes excuses for why it's okay for a game to have this type of content.
This shit should be banned by law.
t. small government convervative who also likes e-girl
See
You don't have a sincere opinion you are just coping.
It's 1 minute, optional scene that's treated as a joke. You know, the bear being all smug and the squirrel dropping his nut.
We've been joking about bestiality for centuries.
Nobody is gonna frick you mom, don't worry.
You've 100% jerk offd to e-girl at one point so you're a pedophile.
Don't care what the context or when.
Now find a hole and jump in it.
The only thing that irritates me is that none of the women in Baldur's Gate 3 are curvaceous or THICC. They're all broad-shouldered, fridge bodies with small breasts. They all use the same body model and it looks like shit.
Why is this thread full of shitposters pretending to be JRPG fanboys getting mad at BG3
very negative
>just put porn in promo material for easy cash-in
>just use the marketing machine to astroturf over every aspect except gameplay
>frontload the first 15% of the game because the game is designed to be dropped at the end of the first chapter (mostly by selling it as a multiplayer game to an older audience that will be incapable of keeping a schedule, meaning they will "continue later" but never will)
>blablantly lie to set yourself "against the trends" despite doing the same (claim about a complete game without microtransactions despite having a 10$ DLC, twitch drops et saying you're indie despite being partly owned by Tencent)
>follow all the negatives of these current days: a game designed to bloat the SSD, woke content out of the ass, characters are archetypes of the current day (meaning the game will feel off in a couple of years, like with all the characters with the broccoli zoomer haircut that is already falling off), an aggressive stance against people making white characters, data collection etc
the only good thing was to make western AAA devs piss themselves on social media, sadly people thought they would get a better competition because these companies would have to step up their game, but bg3 sold a few millions and probably turned a small profit while these AAA microtransaction games make as much money in a single day with a single skin release
>>just put porn in
Opinion discarded
the game was avaliable for almost a full year and nobody gave a shit about it
then the bear frick trailer came in and it was popular
you can't rewrite history, no matter how hard you try
Bro the game was in EA for like 3 years. Also, can you link the bear frick trailer real quick?
>ask for trailer
>get an asmongold react video
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go to youtube and type "baldurs gate bear"
I finally understand what normies mean by "touch grass". Jesus christ, anon, you're living in a different reality, you know that right? Frick this monkey ass videogame, you're failing at being an individual my guy.
every point is clearly defined, it's easy to contest one point while ignoring the others.
that is, only if you have a single argument against what I said, but both of us know you have none
I don't see why you even bother replying after making it clear your opinions have a value of zero. Maybe try again next thread.
Just don't answer to pretend you left the thread, because this is the weakest answer you could come up with.
Answer to what, idiot? You're just a boring idiot with nothing meaningful to say, just a collection of dishonest blanket statements you could say about anything.
Morons like you are never prepared to go into even the slightest bit of detail because you realize that's the point where your idiocy is well and truly exposed.
lol
if the game is so good why dont you play it instead of defending it here with your moronic paragraphs
you are clearly paid shills or work for larian
>nooooo you can't discuss a game if you're not currently playing it
the game has been out for 4 months anon.
>if you like a game why are you talking about it just let us shitpost without any pushback or else you're a shill
Cope.
Because I've already played it you dumb Black person-kun
I didn't like how the third act is pozzed as frick
Whenever someone says
>BALDURS GATE 3 CHANGED GAMING OMMGGG!!!
I ask in what way and they come out with the most esoteric fairy shit like
>UMM IT SHOWED GAMES MADE WITH PASSIONS AND GOOD ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND GOOD GAMES AND GAMES THAT ARE GOOD AND COMPANIES GOOD AND THAT IT CAN BE GOOD BECAUSE THE GAME IS GOOD
moronation.
BG3 probably has the worst story I've ever seen in a isometric RPG. It's horrible. In these types of games story is extremely important. There are also characters and areas that are woefully underused. You have the entire githyanki creche that is just there so you can have the fricking chair scene. Chapter 3 is woefully underutilized and the game itself after chapter 1 is extremely short.
The fact people praise this game as the best game of all time and one of the best isometric rpgs of all time boggles my mind. Even NWN had a better story than this.
WORSE is the fact that isometric RPG's have a history of moddability and BG3 has no extensive moddability nor does it have a create your own adventure mode or a build your own adventure. Or even a multiplayer mode with a human DM feature.
It's just half baked.
Some of the characters seem like after thoughts too. Minsk, Minthara, the bear sex druid and the old hag granny are all woefully under used. There's barely any story for them at all. It feels like an afterthought when after story, characters are the most important thing in games like this.
I genuinely don't understand the insane reaction for this game. It feels like some sort of weird mass hysteria. It's a good game. It's fine. It's middle of the pack for isometric RPG's though and it's characters are entirely forgettable.
Maybe I'm just too old for this shit.