Did piracy kill the Personal Computer?
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Did piracy kill the Personal Computer?
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Did HRT kill the OP brain cells?
no, I did
should've stayed in the coffee zone, cowboy..
The PC has been dead as a gaming system ever since Apple released the IIe.
It's the opposite. Piracy killed consoles.
Do pirates even use computers on their boats?
The seawater would be terrible on the electronics
Fricking Solmilian pirates
Well you say that but these dipshits cool their electronics with water. I mean look at this geek using fricking Kool Aid to cool his computer.
I'm glad I use fans. Water and electronics don't mix.
Yeah, powered by a car battery with an alternator turned by a weedwhacker
Nope. It revived the PC by being able to emulate shit you pirate
bots and mods killed the pc. diablo 2 resurrected online is 100x more fun on console than pc where asian botters trash the trading market. aim bots ruin fps games. farming bots ruin mmorpgs. scout and click bots ruin rts games. mods are hardly better. devs today release broken garbage and let modders "fix" it with unbalanced ad hoc garbage that never blends into the game well. mods are buggy amateur trash. it's like buying a nice small house at the price of a much larger house and then "fixing" it by letting a hobo build an extension out of old plywood scraps and corrugated sheet metal. pc gamers ruined pc gaming with their mindless consumption and low standards.
You ought to pick better games.
very real. you have to stick to single-player/pick a game where everything's on the server to avoid these problems.
99 times out of 100, they're not hacking, you're just shit.
I was beta testing a multiplayer game recently that hadn't (and still hasn't) been released to the public at all, and there will still morons like you complaining about hacking. The game didn't have any hacks, this was the first time anybody had ever played it outside of the QA or development team. It was literally impossible for someone to be hacking. But still people who can't accept that they're bad complained about hacking.
it's well know that bots are trashing the diablo 2 resurrected market. even blizzard has acknowledged it at this point. it's been going on since the original lod days in 2002. they won't do anything to prevent it because they can occasionally ban the botters and then resell them a couple dozen keys/accounts. blizzard makes more from botters at this point than actual players.
Doesn't sound too far-fetched to me. Release-day cheats exist. And that's for shit with actual anticheat protection.
>diablo 2 resurrected online is 100x more fun on console than pc where asian botters trash the trading market. aim bots ruin fps games. farming bots ruin mmorpgs. scout and click bots ruin rts games.
stop being an always online console trannitron. and play single player like a real manly man.
1998 was the year the PC permanently surpassed the console in processing power and graphics
way earlier, Doom came out in 1993 and Snes and Genesis were like "gulp!"
Consoles have been playing the catching up game ever since.
But When playstation came out in 94 no PC could pull of anything close to what it could until 1996 so I would say 96 is the year it took over for good.
That's an extremely dishonest statement. The actual number of pc gamers playing on the highest end hardware is an extremely small percentage. Most are indeed using machines and components that are under powered compared to what the most modern consoles on the market have had. If anything its like steps, with one pulling ahead of the other once the higher end hardware becomes more widely available.
this. i just took picrel from steam. most steam players are using hardware weaker than the current gen consoles.
Yeah, but what's the point of having the latest hardware in current year? Every component of my PC is from 2016 except for the video card, which is a 3080 (upgraded from a 1080). It plays Doom Eternal at 120 fps.
And yet they still have the ability to play over 100x as many games
i have the ability to eat 100x as many things as i currently do but i don't feel like chewing on tree bark and sucking down centipedes. the amount of games actually worth playing are about the same on pc and console. i have a 4080 and yet i still play new titles exclusively on my switch. it's just easier, more comfortable, and i know way more people with a switch than a gaming pc so i can actually play with friends instead of prepubescent shriekers that make up the vast majority of pc gamers. i regret spending money on a new pc when all i use it for is playing older stuff and web browsing. i could have bought a $300 minisforum with integrated graphics and it would have served me exactly the same.
>pcs ackshually suck, unlike my supa mario tablet
does this shit ever get old?
> the amount of games actually worth playing are about the same on pc and console.
W-which radeon graphics is that?
it doesn't say. my younger brother has a beelink minipc with amd 780m and it runs most games just fine. only a few games choked it like cyberpunk and rdr2. it also draws less than 30w on average. he plays the gacha stuff like genshin impact and honkai whatever at 60fps with it. i think he paid $500 for it just because him and his wife were sharing their main pc. they play the live service trash together like fortnite with it too but those games aren't really that demanding. i play skyrim on my iris xe integrated lenovo at 1080p and it hits the 60fps vsync. it runs kenshi at 60fps with a few mods to reduce the horrible partical weather effects.
>1650 constantly shit-talked by reviewers
>most used mid-tier card anyway
based or kek? idk
It's ok tho, I don't have a 4k monitor and I'm fine playing current games on mid or high rather than Ultra.
>pay 1000 more to get 5% graphic boost
meh, i play old shit anyways
>most steam players are using hardware weaker than the current gen consoles.
Wrong board
where do you think you are, Ganker shitter?
spaz down. i was only confirming what another anon claimed.
>muh board
kys
Even if you have current hardware games still play like shit so what's the point? Look at Dragon's Dogma 2
I used to buy top of the line cards immediately on release all the time but don't bother anymore because I don't want to reward their homosexualry
>The actual number of pc gamers playing on the highest end hardware is an extremely small percentage.
??? DOOM runs on just about any "old" PC back in the 90s. in any case PSX only took about 2 years to "catch up" and make a decent port of DOOM. 1 year later, Tomb Raider for PSX ran better than a barebones PC( no GPU card) running Tomb Raider.
>processing power and graphics
and yet everyone here is still playing old console games that can be emulated on a potato. pc gaming was never good. console > arcade > board/tabletop > pen and paper > pc. i say this as a moron who built a 2700 usd gaming pc to play vtmb once or twice a year and shitpost on Ganker.
I'm sorry you're too low IQ to play 90s PC games and need to play baby SNES games
It killed ownership due to paranoid corps locking shit down and screwing over everyone but the pirates in the process.
No. Only one thing was ever killed by piracy. It was the DC, and it was killed by piracy alone and nothing else. This is an undeniable fact and not the cope induced delusion of a deranged child.
Sorry bud, the District of Columbia merely adopted piracy. The PC was born in it, molded by it. If piracy couldn't kill it, piracy couldn't kill anything else.
Pffftt..
PC is your own ship...
Console is a cruise liner...
Make your choice
Very small numbers build their own pc. Most are using prebuilts or laptops for gaming.
those prebuilt PCs are still open platforms where the user can do whatever they like, including making sweeping changes to both software and hardware if one so chooses. consoles are locked down. this is not a matter of opinion, but the truth.
PC gaming is also locked down because, if you don't pirate, it's Steam or bust. you HAVE to be tied to Steam to even play on PC and Steam gets to decide the direction of PC gaming
>you HAVE to be tied to Steam to even play on PC
What the frick is this moronation anon? The most popular games aren't even on Steam. League of Legends, Fortnite, Valorant, Genshin, etc.
Yeah but if you want to play games that are not anal cancer, you are basically forced to use Steam.
>play games that are not anal cancer, you are basically forced to use Steam.
buy ads, Valve or frick off.
>noooo don't insult my goyslop sirs
nah that's moving the goalposts. theres several ways to get games on pc, steam is just the most popular. I'm a fan of DRM free games, myself, and have quite a large collection of them
>those prebuilt PCs are still open platforms where the user can do whatever they like,
That factor doesnt really matter when the majority are not taking advantage of that fact. You also have Apple computers that are more or less locked down as far as user serviceable modifications and now big tech is rolling out DRM hardware components with things like graphics cards specifically designed to limit the freedom of the user. It's not like how it was in the scene in the 90s, companies are pushing for PCs to go the way of smartphones and less people care about that former freedom.
moving the goalposts. PCs have way more freedom than consoles, and will continue to, as the modern consoles have no freedom whatsoever.
>and will continue to
Debatable.
>PCs have way more freedom than consoles
>DRM
>SecureBoot
>EFI
>Closed source everything
>Endless EULAs
>Legally renting everything on owning nothing
Wow, such freedom.
And consoles don't have DRM, closed source software, EULA, and allow booting into something other than the console's OS.
I personally own over 200 DRM free games, like 40 gb of drm free music, open source os, open source word processor, open source photoshop equivalent, open source game engine, daw, dozens of blu rays that I've ripped myself. I could go on and on, just like I'm sure you could go on and on seething about the pc platform for God knows why. seriously, fricking have a nice day. the world will be better off when you do.
>I could go on and on
You already did. And it was extremely cringe. Not even that anon. Just a PCgay cringing at your embarrassing flex.
I run Parabola on an X200. get on my level
>DRM
consoles have way harsher DRM
>SecureBoot
Optional. Install Linux. Steam even works on Linux.
>EFI
Has literally nothing to do with any of this. EFI is a replacement for the traditional inflexible PC BIOS. In fact, it typically gives you even more freedom and flexibility during the boot process than a BIOS.
>Closed source everything
>Endless EULAs
>blah blah blah
All infinitely worse on console.
Ever since the 8th gen, it's been pretty clear to me that PC was the way to go.
everything you just named is either completely avoidable (SecureBoot, Closed source stuff, DRM) or just not even an issue (UEFI is just BIOS 2.0)
For a brief period of time, kinda?
To be exact what nearly killed PC gaming was anti-piracy DRM. SecuROM, StarForce and so forth.
It can not be overstated how fricking awful some of the late 00's PC DRM was. Things got so bad that by the end Steam was seen as a saviour for letting you at the very least tie your license to an account rather than a magical unknown hardware ID.
I'm sure it was bad, and I hate malware too, and I'd certainly never buy a game today that had that shit. But I don't remember ever actually being affected by it. Silent Storm has truly vile malware on it that modern PCs flag immediately, but it ran perfectly at the time.
StarForce was so bad that it could actually brick your OS.
Not in retro time it didn't
How can you kill what was never alive to begin with? Why do you think so many "superior" PC devs bend over backwards to make console ports? Only to fail miserably once they get onto a system where there are actually good games.
No. Piracy only kills consoles and publishers/developers.
PC's aren't reliant on games or software sales. The only focus is to sell prebuilt PC's or PC parts for building a PC.
What killed PC gaming was the ever-increasing production costs combined with a stagnating market due to expensive, ineffective bloated hardware/software (remember the Pentium 4, Windows Vista, and the obnoxious fight against software piracy?) and cheap, secure, reasonably capable consoles stealing away frustrated customers.
So piracy killed physical copies of PC games. Thus forcing us to buy digitally and forcing us to choose between two digital retailers via Steam or Epic to own PC games.
Kinda, but the blame is more on the companies overreaction to piracy, a subset that wouldn't spend money anyway on their games, so it didn't really solve anything.
Piracy kills off profitability.
That's why I don't support piracy. Companies need to make money in order to continue producing games. If these companies fail, we're left with big corporations buying up these companies and acquiring the rights to their IP's and woke it up. Just look at what Crystal Dynamics did to Tomb Raider or Microsoft did to Dark Queen in Battletoads. Piracy and wokeism is cancer to the gaming industry.
>muh woke
>muh piracy causes muh woke
t.Triggered commie
I never said you should give money to BlackRock or Sweet Baby Inc. If a game goes woke, don't buy from them. As a matter of fact, there's a Sweet Baby Inc detector on Steam. Heck a lot of gamers these days are playing older games over newer ones because older games aren't woke.
Rise was a fun show for shonenslop watchers like me but needing to shoehorn a sex negative black April design, and to do it again, is just a turn off.
Now the entire show got plugged because not enough people watched it and think it's all woke ridden, Nick basically told the animators they were done at that point.
Good, enough fricking reboots and nostalgia bait
When is the next pre-rec.
>Companies need to make money in order to continue producing games.
yes. they get this money from BlackRock and Sweet Baby Inc. why the hell should you give them money?
I've been noticing that. Crystal Dynamics hate the fact that classic Lara is more popular than modern Lara.
Well classic Lara is very sexy. Everything that Crystal Dynamics hate.
>classic Lara is very sexy
>picrel: breasts
Her breasts looks round to me(picrel).
Sure, if you want a woman looking like Leon Kennedy.
classic Lara is sexy if you're 5
nuLara is sexy because I want to rape the girlpower out of her
>If these companies fail, we're left with big corporations buying up these companies and acquiring the rights to their IP
They'll just buy it anyway even if they're doing fine.
it died? That's news to me.
The PC industry pivoted to gaming when almost everything else could be done on other devices or a PC from a decade ago.
>piracy kill the Personal Computer?
they still exist, dumbass. like PC gaming never died no matter how much woke ass journalist said it died.
No; cheaper and portable computer systems that outperformed contemporary personal home computers sharply de-valued the personal computer.
When girls learned they could buy a photograph+film camera, telephone, e-mail/text, music/video player, and digital file storage device that was in a variety of colors, small enough to fit in your hand and cost only a few hundred collars (compared to thousands)... the value exploded, its sales increased, and personal home computers became almost useless to 80% of humans in the casual market. And, for those who did want a personal computer simply purchased a pre-prepared and half-priced laptop.
PCs and PC games never died though. The market just got bigger.
PCs still very much exist today.
Digital Distribution such as Steam killed Physical PC games.
Greetings from Ganker, chuds, sony's recent Helldivers 2 is something like 60-40 in favour of the PC, according to multiple sources. This fact makes redditors seethe uncontrollably
console install bases meanwhile have been stagnating for decades 🙂
What "killed" the home computer, really, was the iphone and everything that came after it. and it's funny too because they stopped teaching kids how to use the computer in school in the mid to late 2000s because they figured they would just learn at home anyway. Flash forward to only a few years later and now the majority of people under 25 don't know how to use a computer.
that being said, the PC-as-hobbyist device (Whether that be for games or something else) is strong and vibrant. The 80s computing revolution was something to behold I think--I'm not about to discount the c64 and the Apple II and so on--but I think the PC will be just fine. I built my PC a few years ago and it just provides endless value, whether I'm playing old games or new games or torrenting movies or working or writing or editing or doing music stuff--I mean, the computer is amazing. I love being on the computer. I always have!
It's kind of tragic that the era of the household computer fizzled out, but I think it's reasonable. Most computer users in the year 1995 or 2000 or 2005 really only needed basic access. Email, a few sites, etc, and for people like them a phone really is a fine replacement, but of course I'm totally avoiding discussion of how smartphones have kind of fricked the internet--but that was gonna happen one way or the other probably. Knowing how to use a computer though is a requirement in most halfway-decent jobs and is extremely empowering for so many other things, so I would like to see schools return to PCs or at least Windows laptops--having kids grow up on Chromebooks and then eventually use an iMac in multimedia class isn't really that helpful in the future.
don't forget the Core 2. it made laptops and mini PCs powerful enough for normie tasks that nobody besides GAYmurs needed desktops anymore
Smartphones and social media ruined so many things, it's unreal
Nah, it was shitty DRM (which was sometimes actual Malware), and PC versions playing second banana to console ports. Personally I remember getting Half Life 2, and then not really bothering with PC gaming for near a decade, when PC gaming started getting good again. Too bad it didn't last long and we're getting expensive parts and more cheaterd than ever before lmao.
People who still know this eat healthy and aren't dying soon.
Keep lying zoomers.
Piracy doesn't negatively affect PC the same way it negatively affects consoles. It does however negatively affects software, hence why physical copies of PC games are no longer sold. You're forced to buy from digital retailers such as Steam, Epic, or GOG. Pirategays don't value physical, hence why physical PC games are no longer sold.
True and the fact that people are still building or buying PC's, means piracy has zero affect on it whatsoever. Software is a different story and yeah I admit piracy killed physical media, despite me being pro-pirate. I'm not gonna lie and say piracy helps boost sales of games or software. You'd have to be stupid to think piracy helps boost sales of any kind.
tablets killed the pc
Who pirates games? Broke kids and third worlders. How many of those pirated games would have been sales? Like none? I used to pirate games because I was a kid and literally couldn't buy them.
I do it because I'm saving for a house.
>saving for a house
You gotta buy the land the house is on first lil' homie
I pirate games for the same reason other anons do...we don't want to waste money on games. We get accused of killing the Dreamcast, software companies, physical media, or video game sequels. Many publishers continue to publish on consoles because of DRM and anti-piracy updates. Must be why game publishers loves consoles more than PC.
It actually helped the PC market substantially.
The main thing is that the PC is a beancounter machine and NOT And looking back I really was a passive aggressive a games machine.
Even today, the PC architecture is terrible for videogames. Makes even worse that we've decided to adopt it as our console architecture.
>NOT And looking back I really was a passive aggressive a games machine
Control+V failure? I have no idea how the frick that happened. That part is just supposed to read
>NOT a games machine
My bad.
>Even today, the PC architecture is terrible for videogames
It's the architecture with the most computational power therefore it's good for video games.
Piracy had nothing to do with the PC's success. But it did have everything to do with the destruction of physical copies of PC games.
Nothing killed PC (gaming). The market is as large as ever, development tools and distribution platforms are plenty, individual devs to small shops to sub-AAA studios release plenty of titles, etc etc.
Is anti-PC some /vr/ meme? I own retro systems too, but who cares about platform?
Piracy killed physical distribution of PC video games. Steam basically saved PC gaming by selling digitally.
Piracy is one of the main things that's kept PC gaming alive.
Fake news. Piracy killed physical PC games. We're now forced to go digital making that fat ugly homosexual(Gabe Newell) rich.
way to move the goalposts, moron.
No, the moron is the one claiming Piracy saved PC gaming.
>Piracy saved PC gaming.
Piracy saved retro PC gaming.
Kill?
It's doing better than consoles, always been, always will.