Yes, it basically bankrupted them. They """""merged""""" with Enix to save themselves. Really, Enix bought them out.
Protip, Enix has always been much bigger then Square. They own stake in multiple anime and manga publishing firms, and other entertainment. Vidya is only a portion of them, it was everything for Square on the other hand.
Enix was already in the midst of negotiations while the movie was being made. The fact that it bombed just as they were ready to close the deal nearly killed the merger because it put Square deep into the hole.
It's also why most of the leadership ended up being Enix heads instead of a mix of them. It's like a reverse Boeing situation, when they bought McDonnell-Douglas and the leadership of McDonnell-Douglas got plopped into leading Boeing which lead to the their shift of only caring about stocks.
over 20 years of bad games killed final fantasy
yes the film was a disaster but it's pretty copeful to still be trying to blame it today. in 2024 the financial successes or failures of the spirits within are no longer relevant
The funniest part is that SquareEnix is worth less today than Square was when it was supposedly dying after Spirits Within flopped. That's what decades of incompetent management gets you. The movie wasn't even that expensive in the grand scheme of things. It was just an excuse for morons like Wada to seize power and run the company into the ground.
>The movie wasn't even that expensive in the grand scheme of thing
Whats missing in the budget of Spirits Within is the cost of the studio it self and the render farms, these are NOT part of the movie budget you'd find on IMDB.
If I'm remembering right (and I'm having to remember back about 20 years since a lot of the old articles/interviews are gone on sites) Square actually spent something like $300m in total for the the whole thing in like 1999 dollars.
So crazy, square was coming out with all sorts of great games for ps1, then this movie was so incredibly boring, I don’t understand what they were thinking. They went nasapunk. You never go nasapunk, especially when your games were fantasy based. God what a moronic movie.
No, it was a bunch of bad decisions that culminated into their fall, Sakaguchi and his shitty movie were an easy escape goat.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/lets-clear-up-the-reason-for-squaresofts-demise-and-why-square-and-enix-merged.744184/
FFXIV 1.0 almost caused the same thing, Yoshi-P legit saved their asses.
The overreaction to it did. They invested too much and the suits got too scared. If they just stuck to their strategy it would've been fine. At the end of the day they just had weak leadership
They were apparently merging with Enix before it bombed. It bombing may have stopped it but it didn't.
>The merger between Square and Enix, which had been under consideration since at least 2000 according to Yasuhiro Fukushima, Enix chairman at the time, was delayed because of the failure of the film and Enix's hesitation at merging with a company that had just lost a substantial amount of money.[72] Square Pictures was closed in late January 2002, largely due to the commercial failure of The Spirits Within.
I still think this movie would have done fine if it was just marketed as "The Spirits Within" but by having "Final Fantasy" in the title they put off people who were FF fans as well as sci-fi fans who knew very little about video games. Also lmao at the VA talent they got for this.
I'd cling on to Hades too. Even though he did a great job, that animation is some of the best shit that came out of Disney. It'd make me screaming into a mic after 12 beers look good.
>sci-fi fans
Sci-fi especially space sci-fi was dead as a genre by the time SW came out. No one wanted anything to do with sci-fi anymore because of how common they were up until the 90's. They were a dime a dozen, by the late 90's early 2000's you just didn't feel anything when a new space sci-fi themed movie or show was released. Much like the zombie fad and the super hero fad, people just eventually burned themselves out of the genre.
>I bet Kojima fricking hates Sakaguchi for getting the career path he wanted
???
Kojima's literally living the dream with his Hollywood star escorts and being able to make his moviegame shit with zero restraints, Sakaguchi drowned into complete irrelevance once people saw that he was a hopeless hack, I don't think Kojima even registered Sakaguchi because unlike him he actually got what he wanted and won hard.
Kojima did what Capcom couldn't with Resident Evil and made a fully-rendered 3D game environment, and then put top-notch voice actor performances into in-engine cutscenes. Sakaguchi only managed such a game in the next console generation, then was gone from the company by then.
>having "Final Fantasy" in the title
It's because Square was arrogant and let the success of the PlayStation games go to their heads. They thought Final Fantasy was a mainstream phenomenon and wanted to show off their CGI with "Final Fantasy" proudly in the title.
They didn't build it, they just leased buildings at a state owned movie studio in Hawaii. They also had an LA studio that did most of the CGI movies for their games at the time.
Yes, the logic is that Hawaii was halfway in between Japan and the US. But in reality the real estate is insanely expensive and there's a reason why no studios are headquartered on the most remote state in the US.
>Aki Ross is the main character in Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. A scientific prodigy, she was one of the first ever photorealistic computer-generated human characters to be created and used in film, and was intended to be the world's first computer generated "virtual actress"
reminder that they were 20 years ahead of the curve by trying to create a digital actor
To be honest when I saw photos in magazines it took me a while to realize the film wasn't live-action. The quality of the human models really were a decade ahead of their time
I saw this on TV as a kid when I was home sick with a fever and thought it was the coolest shit. Can't remember anything that happened, just that it was like The Matrix's real world with alien ghosts instead of robots, and a chinawoman and CGI Alec Baldwin drive a spaceship or something. Bet it wasn't as bad as people said it was, but also just plain not great.
It's actually one of the big inspirations behind Mass Effect, if it had been conceptualized as a new ip game instead, maybe for the PS2, sakaguchi would probably be held in the same regard kojima is today instead of drunkenly stumbling at XIV events
>Aki Ross is the main character in Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. A scientific prodigy, she was one of the first ever photorealistic computer-generated human characters to be created and used in film, and was intended to be the world's first computer generated "virtual actress"
reminder that they were 20 years ahead of the curve by trying to create a digital actor
At least when stationary, they don't even look that much shittier than mainstream animated characters today. A pass over these models with all the rendering candy you can get even in Blender today but would explode their shit back then would be hella interesting.
So what I'm getting from things shared here and elsewhere it's essentially this: >have a US branch, but close it in a snit because Secret of Evermore was developed and published without your oversight >in turn, you have no presence to release FF7 internationally on your own, and now you have to share the profits of your biggest release with Sony America >still make enough to fund all kinds of experimental stuff, but after Einhander and SaGa Frontier crash SCEA isn't going to extend their deal >set up a deal with EA to get distribution in the West while you hock their stuff in Japan and at the same time beigin courting Enix to the table so you can be one big Japanese company instead of in a LLC with a Western outfit >Spirits Within's financial loss nearly tanks the deal, Sakaguchi relegated to a corner office in Honolulu in the hopes he'll want to retire >Enix finally gets into bed with you, but with the stipulation that the experimental phase is over - they're only interested in your half producing more FF and maybe Mana, and if it turns out this new Kingdom Hearts things has legs you can go at that too >uhh OK boss
>forgetting the original digital actress
Kenji Eno would be very disappointed in you.
The guy's name was nearly at parity with Nintendo's Miyamoto. If Sakaguchi had reined himself in instead of trying to be a rock star developer, he probably could've had more time at Square.
Squaresoft at its peak was a mix of the serious and soulful Sakaguchi side, and the campy and over the top Nomura side.
The movie was too Sakaguchi. It needed some Nomura to be more entertaining.
But then Squaresoft kicked out Sakaguchi and now he is missing as an important ingredient. Now all FF are campy, moronic rule-of-cool shit fests for maggot minded morons.
The balance is gone.
They should have called it anything but Final Fantasy. They only got lucky because FF7 immediately redefined the FF name from D&D style plots to contemporary/futurist scifi stuff.
>Nomura
Nomura hadn't proven himself yet. He was still a programmer and had just beaten out Amano for the full-time character designer position.
Squaresoft at its peak was a mix of the serious and soulful Sakaguchi side, and the campy and over the top Nomura side.
The movie was too Sakaguchi. It needed some Nomura to be more entertaining.
But then Squaresoft kicked out Sakaguchi and now he is missing as an important ingredient. Now all FF are campy, moronic rule-of-cool shit fests for maggot minded morons.
The balance is gone.
Only movie I fell asleep to in theaters was pic related. Then I watched the original Spanish version [REC] and was terrified even though it's basically shot for shot the same movie up until the end.
>make some random scifi movie >name it Final Fantasy >Final Fantasy fans hate it for not being anything like Final Fantasy >other potential viewers shy away because it's named Final Fantasy
It had “random encounters” in the ghosts that would show up out of nowhere and elemental crystals/samples they had to collect for story reasons. It was a bit of a stretch but there were some pieces here and there.
>Toy Story >Antz >A Bug's Life >Toy Story 2 >Shrek >Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
It doesn't compare to the previous fully CGI movies. The script isn't as well crafted.
While Shrek is very ugly for sure, Spirits Within is not exactly a good example to counter with.
Its very ugly it self, just in entirely different ways then Shrek was.
>It doesn't compare to the previous fully CGI movies.
CG films by that time rarely had human characters for fear of crossing into the Uncanny Valley. The one criticism you'll never hear about this movie was the human characters running right through it.
I can agree with Antz, but not the others. Toy Story 2 and Shrek 1 still look great.
Toy Story 2 is the same as the first, but with improved lighting effects. Shrek easily shows its age today, but the writing is still timeless.
I'd like to see more wacky Japanese takes on Scientology like this movie. Way more interesting than rehashing Christian and Gnostic stuff over and over.
I played all the ps1 FF's with my dad, we rented this movie when it came out and then stopped it halfway through and returned it cause it was so fricking boring.
Final Fantasy X was the last good game Square ever made, everything after was just money chasing schemes and poorly managed projects.
That's not eve mentioning all the influence western white roaches have on them, I hope they go bankrupt along with Capcom, that's another company that has too many whites infesting them to be cleansed at this point.
Because what they intended to do was more than what the PS1 could handle. They clearly weren't intending to do yet another game with wobbly models and prerendered cg backgrounds, battle scenes taking place in an arena the size of a bedroom with extra long intro sequences to hide leading times.
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Parts of that version are left in the game though. For example in the beginning when tidus is making his way through the crowd to his blitzball game.
I always heard the rumor as a kid that there was a hidden naked pic on the DVD for the movie you could unlock/find. I've seen the naked version of this pic on the internet but was that just an edit? Or did they actually make a nude render and hid it on the DVD?
Not saying such a thing wouldn't exist in some computers of the tim by square enix but i doubt they would even consider putting it on the dvd's
it's one of those things you put in the vault and let it stay forever at the company.
Sakaguchi thought he was some genius auteur and wasted millions trying to do realistic CGI when the technology is not enough to make it cost efficient.
https://variety.com/2002/film/news/square-usa-morphs-honolulu-studio-shut-1117859368/ >Jun Aida, “Final Fantasy” executive producer and the Hawaii studio’s president, told employees of the shutdown on Monday. The company was spending about $18 million annually to operate the studio, which cost $46 million to create. About 30% of the workers are from Japan, 12% are Hawaii residents and the rest from North America.
Crazy that they blew 140m+ on such a dead end endeavor. I'd love to read a breakdown of the whole fiasco from start to finish but no one involved will ever talk. Also interesting that it says they made 10 minutes of CGI footage for a Matrix Reloaded trailer after TSW. I don't remember any kind of trailer like that though.
Who? Do you mean Square Enix, you stupid fricking zoomer?
DONT BE MEAN TO ME! I AM ASKING A QUESTION YOU ARE VERY RUDE!
Based and THATS MY PURSE I DONT KNOW YOU pilled
>he doesn't know
>or is baiting
>boomer is too senile to remember which one came first
I think it's time we admitted you to the retirement home.
Grampa, it wasn't your fault. You have to let Squaresoft go.
Wannabe oldgays are so embarrassing.
Yes, it basically bankrupted them. They """""merged""""" with Enix to save themselves. Really, Enix bought them out.
Protip, Enix has always been much bigger then Square. They own stake in multiple anime and manga publishing firms, and other entertainment. Vidya is only a portion of them, it was everything for Square on the other hand.
moron
square soft, like your DICK
zoomer website, old man. if you ain't zoomin then you ain't cruisin. now beat it
Didn't Enix have to save their asses because this bombed so bad?
Enix was already in the midst of negotiations while the movie was being made. The fact that it bombed just as they were ready to close the deal nearly killed the merger because it put Square deep into the hole.
It's also why most of the leadership ended up being Enix heads instead of a mix of them. It's like a reverse Boeing situation, when they bought McDonnell-Douglas and the leadership of McDonnell-Douglas got plopped into leading Boeing which lead to the their shift of only caring about stocks.
XVI killed the Final Fantasy franchise.
over 20 years of bad games killed final fantasy
yes the film was a disaster but it's pretty copeful to still be trying to blame it today. in 2024 the financial successes or failures of the spirits within are no longer relevant
The funniest part is that SquareEnix is worth less today than Square was when it was supposedly dying after Spirits Within flopped. That's what decades of incompetent management gets you. The movie wasn't even that expensive in the grand scheme of things. It was just an excuse for morons like Wada to seize power and run the company into the ground.
>The movie wasn't even that expensive in the grand scheme of thing
Whats missing in the budget of Spirits Within is the cost of the studio it self and the render farms, these are NOT part of the movie budget you'd find on IMDB.
If I'm remembering right (and I'm having to remember back about 20 years since a lot of the old articles/interviews are gone on sites) Square actually spent something like $300m in total for the the whole thing in like 1999 dollars.
Square Enix is a bunch of homosexuals wearing a costume of rotting corpses
>SquareEnix is worth less today than Square was when it was supposedly dying
That can't be true.
No, it killed Enix.
So crazy, square was coming out with all sorts of great games for ps1, then this movie was so incredibly boring, I don’t understand what they were thinking. They went nasapunk. You never go nasapunk, especially when your games were fantasy based. God what a moronic movie.
No, it was a bunch of bad decisions that culminated into their fall, Sakaguchi and his shitty movie were an easy escape goat.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/lets-clear-up-the-reason-for-squaresofts-demise-and-why-square-and-enix-merged.744184/
FFXIV 1.0 almost caused the same thing, Yoshi-P legit saved their asses.
Scapegoat anon, not escape goat, that's a completely different thing.
Am i banned here too
The overreaction to it did. They invested too much and the suits got too scared. If they just stuck to their strategy it would've been fine. At the end of the day they just had weak leadership
Honestly, a lot of things that went wrong with this movie make a lot more sense when you realize it was written by mutts.
I saw spirits within in theaters with my mom
They were apparently merging with Enix before it bombed. It bombing may have stopped it but it didn't.
>The merger between Square and Enix, which had been under consideration since at least 2000 according to Yasuhiro Fukushima, Enix chairman at the time, was delayed because of the failure of the film and Enix's hesitation at merging with a company that had just lost a substantial amount of money.[72] Square Pictures was closed in late January 2002, largely due to the commercial failure of The Spirits Within.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy%3A_The_Spirits_Within
My best friend fricking loved that movie so much when we were kids. I still have yet to watch it.
sounds like an easy way to bond with friend, anon
Bonding is GAY
I'd rather be gay with friends than straight and alone
>"Square" Pictures logo
>it's a rectangle, not a square
Should have been a giant red flag right there.
I still think this movie would have done fine if it was just marketed as "The Spirits Within" but by having "Final Fantasy" in the title they put off people who were FF fans as well as sci-fi fans who knew very little about video games. Also lmao at the VA talent they got for this.
>James Woods
If anything, I'd say he's a secret animation fan considering he'll probably clutch on to his Hades role until he meets the god himself.
I'd cling on to Hades too. Even though he did a great job, that animation is some of the best shit that came out of Disney. It'd make me screaming into a mic after 12 beers look good.
>sci-fi fans
Sci-fi especially space sci-fi was dead as a genre by the time SW came out. No one wanted anything to do with sci-fi anymore because of how common they were up until the 90's. They were a dime a dozen, by the late 90's early 2000's you just didn't feel anything when a new space sci-fi themed movie or show was released. Much like the zombie fad and the super hero fad, people just eventually burned themselves out of the genre.
I bet Kojima fricking hates Sakaguchi for getting the career path he wanted and failing so no one would ever let him direct a movie.
>I bet Kojima fricking hates Sakaguchi for getting the career path he wanted
???
Kojima's literally living the dream with his Hollywood star escorts and being able to make his moviegame shit with zero restraints, Sakaguchi drowned into complete irrelevance once people saw that he was a hopeless hack, I don't think Kojima even registered Sakaguchi because unlike him he actually got what he wanted and won hard.
Kojima did what Capcom couldn't with Resident Evil and made a fully-rendered 3D game environment, and then put top-notch voice actor performances into in-engine cutscenes. Sakaguchi only managed such a game in the next console generation, then was gone from the company by then.
The story is STILL an incomprehensible mess, and it didn't help that he decided their debut studio should be LOCATED ON FRICKING HAWAII.
>having "Final Fantasy" in the title
It's because Square was arrogant and let the success of the PlayStation games go to their heads. They thought Final Fantasy was a mainstream phenomenon and wanted to show off their CGI with "Final Fantasy" proudly in the title.
Didn't Squaresoft also build a Movie Studio in Hawaii for this?
They didn't build it, they just leased buildings at a state owned movie studio in Hawaii. They also had an LA studio that did most of the CGI movies for their games at the time.
Yes, the logic is that Hawaii was halfway in between Japan and the US. But in reality the real estate is insanely expensive and there's a reason why no studios are headquartered on the most remote state in the US.
To be honest when I saw photos in magazines it took me a while to realize the film wasn't live-action. The quality of the human models really were a decade ahead of their time
>The main character of this appeared on the cover of Maxim
It truly was a different time.
KINO TIME
the kino that filtered millions
I saw this on TV as a kid when I was home sick with a fever and thought it was the coolest shit. Can't remember anything that happened, just that it was like The Matrix's real world with alien ghosts instead of robots, and a chinawoman and CGI Alec Baldwin drive a spaceship or something. Bet it wasn't as bad as people said it was, but also just plain not great.
It's actually one of the big inspirations behind Mass Effect, if it had been conceptualized as a new ip game instead, maybe for the PS2, sakaguchi would probably be held in the same regard kojima is today instead of drunkenly stumbling at XIV events
>Aki Ross is the main character in Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. A scientific prodigy, she was one of the first ever photorealistic computer-generated human characters to be created and used in film, and was intended to be the world's first computer generated "virtual actress"
reminder that they were 20 years ahead of the curve by trying to create a digital actor
Aki walked so VShojo could run
At least when stationary, they don't even look that much shittier than mainstream animated characters today. A pass over these models with all the rendering candy you can get even in Blender today but would explode their shit back then would be hella interesting.
So what I'm getting from things shared here and elsewhere it's essentially this:
>have a US branch, but close it in a snit because Secret of Evermore was developed and published without your oversight
>in turn, you have no presence to release FF7 internationally on your own, and now you have to share the profits of your biggest release with Sony America
>still make enough to fund all kinds of experimental stuff, but after Einhander and SaGa Frontier crash SCEA isn't going to extend their deal
>set up a deal with EA to get distribution in the West while you hock their stuff in Japan and at the same time beigin courting Enix to the table so you can be one big Japanese company instead of in a LLC with a Western outfit
>Spirits Within's financial loss nearly tanks the deal, Sakaguchi relegated to a corner office in Honolulu in the hopes he'll want to retire
>Enix finally gets into bed with you, but with the stipulation that the experimental phase is over - they're only interested in your half producing more FF and maybe Mana, and if it turns out this new Kingdom Hearts things has legs you can go at that too
>uhh OK boss
>forgetting the original digital actress
Kenji Eno would be very disappointed in you.
>this made hollywood boomers cry and shit their pants
lel
Roger Ebert loved it and even bought into the idea of all-digital actors replacing live ones.
>was intended to be the world's first computer generated "virtual actress"
Once again human ingenuity failed to realize the manevolence of humanity in creating actresses solely meant to entertainment and not for cinema
the movie came out like 3 months after The Gorillaz first album hit the scene. the virtual celebrity thing was the style at the time
she was a top-tier waifu. Kino voice. I can't understand that people don't like this movie. It legitamately looks amazin
no the hollyjews and tertiary fanboys killed the movie
It proved that Sakaguchi is a hack.
Did Sakaguchi deserve to shoulder the complete responsibility?
The guy's name was nearly at parity with Nintendo's Miyamoto. If Sakaguchi had reined himself in instead of trying to be a rock star developer, he probably could've had more time at Square.
They should have called it anything but Final Fantasy. They only got lucky because FF7 immediately redefined the FF name from D&D style plots to contemporary/futurist scifi stuff.
>Nomura
Nomura hadn't proven himself yet. He was still a programmer and had just beaten out Amano for the full-time character designer position.
Squaresoft at its peak was a mix of the serious and soulful Sakaguchi side, and the campy and over the top Nomura side.
The movie was too Sakaguchi. It needed some Nomura to be more entertaining.
But then Squaresoft kicked out Sakaguchi and now he is missing as an important ingredient. Now all FF are campy, moronic rule-of-cool shit fests for maggot minded morons.
The balance is gone.
I think this might be the only movie I've fallen asleep to in a cinema.
Shut up ugly
Only movie I fell asleep to in theaters was pic related. Then I watched the original Spanish version [REC] and was terrified even though it's basically shot for shot the same movie up until the end.
REC is great, I almost shat my pants
Rec is one of the best films of if its time
Quarantine is garbage.
mine was toy story 3 and men who stare at goats
>that part where the giant whale ghost floats through the shuttle and kills like 200 people
Scared me for a month
>make some random scifi movie
>name it Final Fantasy
>Final Fantasy fans hate it for not being anything like Final Fantasy
>other potential viewers shy away because it's named Final Fantasy
I watched it two times in cinema, so I did my part. What's your excuse?
I wish it killed the merger.
>tfw actually liked the movie
>tfw unironically blame pedowood for Squaresoft eating shit
It came out 2 months after the first Shrek (which is a masterpiece). Spirits Within was weak by comparison.
Shrek is a novelty film its not good.
Why is it even called final Fantasy? There's not even a chocobo or soemthing
They had a Dr. Sid.
>There's not even a chocobo
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Chocobo_(The_Spirits_Within)
It had “random encounters” in the ghosts that would show up out of nowhere and elemental crystals/samples they had to collect for story reasons. It was a bit of a stretch but there were some pieces here and there.
This. It's all almost there, just watered down abit from the usual fantasticyness
>Toy Story
>Antz
>A Bug's Life
>Toy Story 2
>Shrek
>Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
It doesn't compare to the previous fully CGI movies. The script isn't as well crafted.
Those are all ugly as frick though. Americans suck at making aesthetically pleasing films.
I can agree with Antz, but not the others. Toy Story 2 and Shrek 1 still look great.
While Shrek is very ugly for sure, Spirits Within is not exactly a good example to counter with.
Its very ugly it self, just in entirely different ways then Shrek was.
>It doesn't compare to the previous fully CGI movies.
CG films by that time rarely had human characters for fear of crossing into the Uncanny Valley. The one criticism you'll never hear about this movie was the human characters running right through it.
Toy Story 2 is the same as the first, but with improved lighting effects. Shrek easily shows its age today, but the writing is still timeless.
>While Shrek is very ugly for sure
Filtered
disgusting. absolutely vile.
This looks great to this day. There was talent behind this.
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looks like any generic cgi film.
>wrong post
I'd like to see more wacky Japanese takes on Scientology like this movie. Way more interesting than rehashing Christian and Gnostic stuff over and over.
I'm one of probably five people who actually watched that film in a cinema back then.
Yay. I got us all cups
I kinda liked it actually
I feel sorry for the people who refuse to accept that Shrek (2001) is one of the best animation movies ever made.
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!
I played all the ps1 FF's with my dad, we rented this movie when it came out and then stopped it halfway through and returned it cause it was so fricking boring.
Good movie
Final Fantasy X was the last good game Square ever made, everything after was just money chasing schemes and poorly managed projects.
That's not eve mentioning all the influence western white roaches have on them, I hope they go bankrupt along with Capcom, that's another company that has too many whites infesting them to be cleansed at this point.
X was unfinished same with 12. And 12 was better than x.
I'm sure you can prove that, 12gay. The only things that appear to be cut from X are four songs and a possible easter egg Buster Sword.
X was almost on the dreamcast.
It was just delayed and kept in development for so long they made that shitfest 9 as a holdover.
It was delayed for a reason.
Because what they intended to do was more than what the PS1 could handle. They clearly weren't intending to do yet another game with wobbly models and prerendered cg backgrounds, battle scenes taking place in an arena the size of a bedroom with extra long intro sequences to hide leading times.
Parts of that version are left in the game though. For example in the beginning when tidus is making his way through the crowd to his blitzball game.
I always heard the rumor as a kid that there was a hidden naked pic on the DVD for the movie you could unlock/find. I've seen the naked version of this pic on the internet but was that just an edit? Or did they actually make a nude render and hid it on the DVD?
I'm pretty sure that was just a render someone made. I coomed to that one repeatedly as a kid
Not saying such a thing wouldn't exist in some computers of the tim by square enix but i doubt they would even consider putting it on the dvd's
it's one of those things you put in the vault and let it stay forever at the company.
>The only final fantasy thing in the entire film was the Mako stream/Gaia.
You clearly never watched the movie, or slept through most of it
I liked the movie as a kid but that's an Australian thing apparently.
Probably reminded me of home
What do you mean by killed? Square is currently dominating anime.
I saw this garbage in the theater and I'm still upset.
Good for you
I thought the movie was alright. Nothing I'll ever watch again, but not a waste of time.
No, Sakaguchi making XI into an MMO killed squaresoft.
He merely wounded Squaresoft with this movie, that was the finishing blow.
Except FFXI was the most profitable game in the company's history up until their next MMO
the phantoms scared the frick out of me
Sakaguchi thought he was some genius auteur and wasted millions trying to do realistic CGI when the technology is not enough to make it cost efficient.
Once again it wouldn't have been as financially disastrous if they didn't build a NEW studio headquartered in Hawaii.
https://variety.com/2002/film/news/square-usa-morphs-honolulu-studio-shut-1117859368/
>Jun Aida, “Final Fantasy” executive producer and the Hawaii studio’s president, told employees of the shutdown on Monday. The company was spending about $18 million annually to operate the studio, which cost $46 million to create. About 30% of the workers are from Japan, 12% are Hawaii residents and the rest from North America.
Crazy that they blew 140m+ on such a dead end endeavor. I'd love to read a breakdown of the whole fiasco from start to finish but no one involved will ever talk. Also interesting that it says they made 10 minutes of CGI footage for a Matrix Reloaded trailer after TSW. I don't remember any kind of trailer like that though.
It was for the Animatrix wasn't it?
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