Why does the retro community *still* rely on direct download sites? I cri everytiem I see a dead link, sites that datacap you or ratelimit you, or some redditors new "open archive" that dies in a year.
Not to mention DDLgays are killing archive.org as we speak.
so why the frick haven't normies just stuck to torrenting? its safer, quasi-decentralised, and you can bulk download EVERYTHING that way. did they get bad memories from uTorrent and TPB?
>safer
yes, because a site changing its files and loading them with malware without telling you is something that can happen with torrents
Uploading a spiked torrent somewhere is infinitely easier than pwning a server.
how will the nes rom i execute on my wii put malware on my pc
The solution is obvious: XDCC
>safer
>Safer Sephiroth
>safer
Netflix and Spotify destroyed torrent knowledge for an entire generation, unironically. Since 2011-ish, streaming has been so convenient that you have an entire cohort of young people who never learned how to use torrents even when it would make sense to. Also computer literacy in general is going way down for young people.
Anyway, I will say that arcade rom sets seem more accessible via torrent than ddl, but that’s probably because players wanting to emulate arcade games probably skew older.
I know everyone on this website is a complete doomer in every sense, but I'm 29 and I hire 21-23 year old graduates who have openly talked about torrenting with me and others. They're mostly all Asian American and make 100k+ salary. They seem savvy enough. Whereas the older 35+ year olds I used to work with 3 years ago have no clue how to torrent and mostly choose to stream Netflix off their PS4. They are all white but make about 30-40k per year (I changed careers).
Point is I think the kids are fine.
>safer
Rather just use DownThemAll for big (CD) sets, but so far the only full CD sets I have are for SEGA CD and TurboGrafx-CD. PS1 is enormous even if it's just a full US CHD set, same with Saturn and Dreamcast
I think its just easiest to exploit the hosting loophole. I dont know how this makes sense legally but torrent trackers get nuked by DMCAs, while some index filled with rapidshare links will survive for a decade or more.
The admins of this shit are also in it for the traffic, and normies/casuals never fricking figured out torrents. They like html links idk why.
Also with trackers you are completely at the mercy of autist troony admins who sit in IRC all day and edge to the sites user agreement. Fcuk you retrowithin, i helped you rebuild your site on a massive scale and then arbitrarily got banned for no reason
I still don't understand how C00kie's Bustle got removed from archive.org due to a dmca takedown but nothing else did
It's far from the only thing that's gotten removed, people narc on stuff there all the time. That was just a special case as the copyright troll was so autistically persistent, in most cases you won't notice how often things are reuploaded.
because unless they're newer games, the file size is small.
torrents benefit from this though because you can easily download collections, whereas a site would ratelimit you 4 downloads in, or you would have to go through the effort of clicking literally thousands of games or using a 3rd party downloader that may or may not be blocked
>I think its just easiest to exploit the hosting loophole. I dont know how this makes sense legally but torrent trackers get nuked by DMCAs, while some index filled with rapidshare links will survive for a decade or more.
the sites themselves don't, remember emuparadise, megaupload, rapidshare lol, zippyshare, etc? MEGA links get taken down all the time, and gays LOVE to use ad infested shit like ad.fly, 1fichier (who also has links taken down and gay rate limits), etc. its all rotten to the core. public trackers might die but the torrents themselves are almost always still up, I'm still sneeding a >10y gta torrent from KAT
>Also with trackers you are completely at the mercy of autist troony admins who sit in IRC all day and edge to the sites user agreement
agreed, private trackers suck ass
forgot to mention
>a site would ratelimit you 4 downloads in
why you playing 4 games at once anon?
>kick ass torrents
Thank you for the nostalgia
Demonoid ;_;
Changed my life a little bit
With all this whining and fear of people killing Archive.org surely you must be doing the one thing that matters: you donate right? Instead of trying to convince the average person not to use it, maybe you should be trying to convince to donate to it, since it’s a good cause.
Better question is why OP still doesn't have fullsets of retro consoles? As you say the direct download sites have been around for a decade+ and a 1TB drive costs maybe $40-50 these days.
i would trust vimms lair with my life
I mean for cartridge romsets it's literally like a single 1GB or 4GB download. Not that different from downloading a single modern game. CD rom sets are different though, way bigger, even with CHD
>and you can bulk download EVERYTHING that way.
lol how young are you to have never done that and found out how shit it actually is to have 700 movies you don't want to watch
Seeding is a public service
try mexican formus then.
Someone who downloads a game from a DDL site has nothing to fear. Someone who downloads files through a torrent can get a letter from their ISP because of Nintendo or Digital Leisure or whoever, or get their internet cut off in extreme cases. Also, a torrent requires people constantly remain connected to seed, DDL's only require the uploader to upload the files once, then the server to remain up. DDL's are less liability to the uploaders and downloaders, and far less bandwidth is required from the uploader to get the files available to people. Torrents are pure liability for uploaders and downloaders, and usually results in the uploader having to transfer the same data multiple times. All just so the downloader can get a faster download.
Literally, the only people who advocate for torrents over DDL's are leeches who don't care if the uploaders get fricked as long as they get to download it faster.
>Someone who downloads files through a torrent can get a letter from their ISP because of Nintendo or Digital Leisure or whoever, or get their internet cut off in extreme cases
burger/davido-kun problems
>Also, a torrent requires people constantly remain connected to seed, DDL's only require the uploader to upload the files once, then the server to remain up.
1 point of failure
vs
100s of uploaders
>1 point of failure
>vs
>100s of uploaders
You say that like the 100's of people who download the file from a DDL can't re-upload it somewhere else or mirror the file, or that torrents are somehow more likely to survive. Remember that great private tracker for music that had just about everything? And now all the torrents are dead since it got DMCA'd to death? Or the pleasuredome torrents? A torrent is a single point of failure just like a DDL site. It just creates more risk and liability for the uploader and puts the downloaders at risk as well, solely so the downloader gets a faster download.
>100's of people who download the file from a DDL can't re-upload it somewhere else or mirror the file, or that torrents are somehow more likely to survive
torrents have checksumming, DDL's don't in most cases
>Remember that great private tracker for music that had just about everything? And now all the torrents are dead since it got DMCA'd to death? Or the pleasuredome torrents
thats purely an issue of pr*vate trackers, since they ban people if they redistribute them
>It just creates more risk and liability for the uploader
with a torrent, the original uploader can just vanish or seed behind over 9000 proxies
in DDL, the original uploader still needs to exist
>torrents have checksumming, DDL's don't in most cases
What the frick does that have to do with the question I asked?
>thats purely an issue of pr*vate trackers, since they ban people if they redistribute them
No, that was an issue of the trackers getting shut the frick down due to either legal problems or a lack of funds. The same shit that effects romsites.
>with a torrent, the original uploader can just vanish or seed behind over 9000 proxies
>in DDL, the original uploader still needs to exist
And here he is folks. Someone moronic enough to think you can hide behind a VPN to hide a torrent upload but not other uploads, as well as moronic enough to think literally NO ONE besides the original uploader can upload a file they have downloaded.
>No, that was an issue of the trackers getting shut the frick down due to either legal problems or a lack of funds. The same shit that effects romsites.
DHT exists, and most torrents don't have 1 tracker
'Nuff said. I'd just like to add that torrents are great as an alternative mean of download for *legal* stuff. For example, software (foss or freeware) made by a small team who has trouble maintaining a direct server always up and fast. The community might set up a torrent to alleviate the server's traffic and shorten download times. Linux ISOs are commonly distributed that way.
>B-but... Tampering...
Yes, we have signatures and checksums for that.
Question: if you only accept encrypted connections, does it make torrent any less risky?
Real men own USB cart dumpers for the consoles they play.
Just like real consoles play the USB cart dumpers for the men they own.
>bulk download EVERYTHING
A slave hoards and wastes space.
A man handpicks and curates.
>safer
Torrents have their own issues, specifically not having enough seeders to keep the files up.
Many are still suspicious that you'll get some huge fine and possible arrest for Piracy (US defines it as illegal copying and redistribution of copyright material).
DDLs are mainly preferred because of semantics. As long as you're not redistributing, you're in the clear, so the thinking goes.
>safer
Nice joke.
>fines
That's why I torrent at the office during working hours.
well torrents are kinda a gamble we have to be honest is like when Gta V came for PC
>everyone hurried up
>got a torrent link on some big site
>downloaded the file without issues
>install the 50 GB game
>after installing it ask you to restart the PC
>get greeted by a surprise
>what you torrented was a 50GB virus and nothing else.
This thread is comedy gold. Don't let it die.
I've been trying my fricking best here, creating every joke I can, and you come saying: "ohohohoho i want more". Then, help, you bastard! You're laughing for free and still want eternal laughter? How about you join the circus and assist us down here?
ddl should be the standard
direct downloads are dying because "collectors" report the links simple as that thye use the excuse
>but muhh game lose value because of piracy
and cry like a b***h.
thats actually based, i hope the DDL reckoning comes sooner
>Seifer Almasy (pronounced SAFER AL MUH SEE)
Every man should have a large archive of video games.
>Why does the retro community *still* rely on direct download sites?
why not? it's faster than waiting for the torrent a lot of the time
>dies in a year
are you so dumb you can't find another archive or site?
>doomposting about how this time, definitely, for-realz this time, every download site will be removed from the internet
you're dumb af
We need more scene releases of retro games. FTP will always be king.