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Disco Elysium
I finally beat the game and can participate in the threads now
Can we talk about it?
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lol no
yes
I tried a rerun not long ago, but it's still too soon for me, gotta wait another year atleast. Fun game tho.
try
>the payoff of Advanced Race Theory is getting to tell Measurehead he's making it all up
>your advanced racial profiling allows you to identitify hanged man's ethnic background
nevertheless, devs are gays for cucking out of proper slurs and/or proxy israelites
LIEUTENANT I'm from the future listen closely, you have to stop the Mesques before it's too la--
ARREST
KLAASJE
leave her be, arresting her doesn't serve anyone
She's directly responsible for the case not being open and shut, leading to a situation that could kill hundreds
wouldn't that be Ruby?
Ruby went along with Klaasje's plan to fake a hanging because she was lesbian-compromised
>Ruby went along with Klaasje's plan
wait, I thought Ruby was the one who made the plan and did everything while ms. Disco Dancer was in tatters over the merc dying on top of her? did I get played?
Sounds like you didn't have high enough in Volition or Rethoric. You got played hard.
fuuuuck. I even got the volition dialogue telling me my skills are getting charmed and still fricking failed for it. I feel like such a moron right now.
>Getting played despite everyone telling you that you're getting played
Just like real life huh
>did I get played?
Don't listen to him, the crownhead is a boring condom.
This! Now harry, what you should do is grab a gun and put into your mouth.
I love authority. Great skill.
is authority ever right about anything?
authority is always right
He's mostly right about the working class woman.
I'LL SHOW YOU WHO'S BOSS
>did I get played?
Yes. It was Klaasje's idea to string up the corpse to disguise the bullet wound, to the point they hung him in her shower first so he'd start showing signs of lividity consistent with death by hanging as soon as possible
yeah the whole point was that klaasje strung along ruby who then wanted to take the blame and made it seem like it was her idea that she strung the body up to protect klaasje. i kinda wish there was a way to make ruby not die but all outcomes lead to her death
>all outcomes lead to her death
You can let her go if you push over her machine
she still domes herself though
>didn't pass the check to let her go
>i kinda wish there was a way to make ruby not die but all outcomes lead to her death
No, you can let her go and she lives.
>i kinda wish there was a way to make ruby not die but all outcomes lead to her death
>Tells you that she wants to go
>Let her go
wow that was hard
i thought letting her go just made her kill herself, or that's what happened when i tried to resolve the situation
as other anons pointed out you can let her leave, and from the police point of view that's better than letting her blast her brains out, but I was still miffed about it cause she was probably the most important person to apprehend in the entire game.
>anon is compromised
>trusting a woman
>t.compromised
I didn't arrest her because I was afraid I would piss off the Union and therefor, have a more difficult time getting the murder solved.
Are you a simp? I admit I didn't arrest her either, but that was only because I was afraid of losing whatever positivity I had with the Union and Titus's crew, thus possibly making the rest of the case a nightmare. She was the person fricking the case up the most by throwing so much bullshit at you in order to save her own ass. She is objectively a terrible person.
You simped for the simps you fricking simp
im lmaoing at your life
But then I can't finish her quest where she tells me where she hid her papers
You find them anyway. Not arresting her only lets you find out that she lied to you, yet a fricking gain
But anon, if I don't arrest her, maybe she'll realise her mistake and come back to me!
>Not arresting her only lets you find out that she lied to you
bit of a "no shit" revelation tbh
No, i'm not gonna kill a human beeing just because it pissed off the McDonald CEO
>corporate spy turned drug prostitute
>a human being
[laugh in Encyclopedia]
Not gonna lie, DRAMA literally carried the whole shit. It was fantastic.
>shaving
>stopping the expression
Why would you do this to Harry?
I unironically wanted him to get better.
This. You don't give me false information int he middle of my investigation and get away with it. The moralists turning you into corruption-caviar is your own doing.
Also, she poked fun at me when I told her I wanted some frick.
I liked DE but the game really takes a nosedive as soon as you leave the town
The Deserter's motives are reasonably justified.
I don't really have a problem with his motives but it's just not a satisfying conclusion to the game, if he wasn't the crux of the whole story and instead maybe a side quest character it would have been fine.
I've replayed the game about five times and I've come to the conclusion that, while on my first run I was disappointed, it's really not the point. The game is ultimately about what you decide to do with the protagonist and is just another week in the life for a Precinct Detective.
The plot isnt about finding the killer anyway. Its about understanding why Lely's death was going to cause a major disaster, which you have to deal with directly.
It had themes, something most gamers aren't used to, because most games are utter slop. It was a very satisfying conclusion for its themes and what you've been learning all game.
The whole Deserter situation is completely undermined by the Phasmid. I don't know why they went and let this side plot completely overtake the finale of the game.
Anon, the Phasmid is the ending of the game.
Incel rage because someone fricked a girl he was stalking?
not the 50 years of people shitting on his country nope not that part at all
He can be angry about the state of his country. But he murdered that dude out of incel rage and mental illness, not because Communism failed.
potato, potato
The point is, he wasn't doing anything for a grander political purpose. Politics was his life, but the single most potent act he ever performed was pulling the trigger for petty revenge because someone had something, and he did not. In a way he's parallel to Harry, too, because the girl he was staring at from afar was someone impossibly different and distant to what he thought. She was a monument, not a woman, and all he did was ruin three lives by being so held up on her.
With the pull of a trigger, he threw away any life he could've had away, under the shield of 'political revolutionism' which was actually just deep frustration for his failings, and all he is after that is a stupid old dying man with a speech that doesn't sound as good as it did in his head, for people who don't care to hear it. Which, really, is what all political activism is.
>In a way he's parallel to Harry
Huh, I didn't realize this.
That part of the game isn't mentioned much, but it's my favorite bit, for sure. The culprit introduced directly after the dream and directly before the Phasmid reveal, and he's totally incapable of seeing the criter while Harry is able to directly communicate with it. Deserter's life is over, he pissed it away on politics and women that he couldn't have, and he can't even perceive that there are beautiful, magical things still in the world to discover, profound thoughts to have that aren't slave to any ideology. The only happy couple you see in the entire game, are the Phasmid Hunters.
And after that, you walk into the ending, where all of Harry's sins and triumphs are weighed, right in front of Lilienne's house, another parallel to Harry. After having his past revealed to him through his own mind, after seeing his sins reflected in the Deserter, and the beauty and opportunity of the world offered to him in the Phasmid, the final judgement is in front of the only woman who could share his pain, the only person who earnestly gave him a shot without an agenda. It's all so narratively and subtextually dense, and I could go on and on about the importance of that specific location to Harry, like the scene with Kim and Lilienne's daughter where Kim forces Harry to suspend his martyr/sufferer complex ("Shut up and hug the damn lamb") allowing him to begin the healing process just a little, but I'll hold off.
>but I'll hold off
... unless???
Sorry anon, I have to hold off for my own sake, at least until I have a shower. It's cold as frick down under ATM and my feet are too cold to go off on an autistic tangent about great moments of thematic resonance in Disco Elysium right now
Alright thanks for sharing so far. I thought it was interesting.
Thank you! I'm not all that smart and my subtext skills are pretty surface but I'm glad you could get something out of it.
>tfw dropkicked this dumb Black person
>Dropkick
you roundhouse kick him you moron tourist
Whatever. That was the best part.
>pirate it when it comes out
>dropkick stupid Black person
>cant remember minor detail in a thread years later
>some turbovirgin autist spergs out and has a meltdown because i havent played his favorite slop recently enough to recall how some dumb Black person gets attacked
lol seethe little homosexual
i didnt even finish it i just thought dropkicking the Black person was funny
you probably cucked to him
meanwhile i didnt even try 🙂
>dropkick
It was a roundhouse kick.
I recently picked up the Collector's Edition for the art book alone. It didn't disappoint.
You can find the whole art book on the internet archive. $250 is a pretty high asking price and I don't view the collection as being worth it.
What kind of cop were you?
What political route did you go?
loser
You have no idea
>What kind of cop were you?
Constantly using drugs and intimidating or abusing power wherever possible
>What political route did you go?
Moralism
I was an ultraliberal sorry cop. The weight of Harry's frickups was too much for me and I needed that money to get him back on track.
My second playthrough I was a commie cop but also on the money grind, finding investors. Kim made note of this at the end.
i checked my stats at the end and i was surprised the game made me into a socialist despite not really leaning that way personally, that plus hyper capitalist
the game's political system is not only caricature, but also not reflective of the ideologies we know in our world under the same name. and most players end up hypercapitalist due to the RPG player's nature being hoarding wealth whenever possible.
i mostly picked it because i thought the lines were funny
>most players end up hypercapitalist due to the RPG player's nature being hoarding wealth whenever possible.
Don't be an idiot, anon, the game chooses your "political alignment" based on the number of "political" dialogue choices you made. If Kim tags you as an ultraliberal at the end it's because you kept saying dumb shit about hustling and the market, not anything you did or said to earn more money.
>recently
So you gave those thieves your money?
captcha: GAYHIV
You should've screencapped your captcha.
I'm not on my PC 🙁
you can't steal from communists, only create property
>What kind of cop were you?
I think I ended up being sorry, mainly.
I never touched alcohol or drugs, and wanted Harry to get better and recover, so I apologized for my former misdemeanors and kind of treated the case as penance for what I've become.
I think I had 2/5/2/3 stats with inland empire speciality, but looking back, I think I liked the FYS skills more than MOT.
>What political route did you go?
I thought that opting in for some political quest meant you get blocked from all the others, so I ended up rejecting a few at first. In the end I have only done the Ultranationalist quest, though Kim still called me a fascist at the end of the game. A lot of fascist options were moronic, but I did like the patriotic ones, like ones saying that Revachol should be independent from the coalition, or respecting the tradition of the old royalty. I guess that was enough to push it as my most chosen option, though I guess the difference between that and the second most chosen must have been tiny.
>You spend the entire game going straight-edge with Harry
>Only for his old partner to tel you this isn't the first or last time you've fallen off the wagon and promised to get better
It's realistic but god it's a kick in the balls at the end.
If your violation is high enough then it tells you you will
>violation
Didn't realised Disco Elysium had a porn parody
internalize wasteland of reality my Black
>want the artbook
>but the only way to get it is by giving money to the people who killed Disco Elysium
What's up with this?
Who are these people and how did they kill Disco Elysium?
the commies sold the company and now other commies complain that the buyers got what they paid for
Why are you defending a career fraudster?
You think he redeemed himself, abandoned his past of frauding, and the creators are just using it to justify their mistakes?
The investors bought the controlling share of ZA/UM out from under the founders and then fired them when they objected to turning the franchise into a monetised cash cow
pretty smart, the art collective weren't going to produce another hit
>runaway success with a sequel already in development
Lick a little harder, you missed a spot
Their investors stole the company. Classic case of fraud, really, they fired all the original Estonian writers (including the guy who MADE THE ORIGINAL BOOK) and hired westerners, wanted to make DE 2 a live service game, plus an Amazon series, and now the originals are on court to get the company back.
Capital really does assimilate all critique onto itself, just like Joyce said.
Say what you will about this whole siltuation and how genuinely wienered it is, but if the OG writers opted to just make as close to a 1:1 recreation of DE as a TV series as they could, I'm sure it would end up being the huge hit series of the year. The themes and story present in the game could translate very well to a show imo.
I don't know about that. TV/Movie viewers don't usually like their MCs to be a miserable alcoholic who's out of control.
true detective was great
That's fair actually. Maybe I'm viewing it too strongly through my enjoyment of political thriller programs and the like.
But I also imagine that the "first episode" opening with the Reptilian Brain voice speaking to "you" as the darkness slowly gives way to shapes and forms, then the process of watching Harry wake up in the hostel room and following with him as the two of you both equally know nothing, and the story progressing forth as with the game would be a good hook for most people.
I also envision it having the thought portraits vaguely being present in the background as they speak to Harry while he goes mining about, and that uniqueness would also help it stand out.
But I'm not a TV writer, so what do I know.
I suppose that's true. Unfortunate as it is.
I get your vision and the game's intro is a really good hook. Its just that seeing the kind of drivel that's being cooked out in movies and shows, I can't help but wonder if anyone would willing take this kind of approach. Then again, I just remembered people did like Bojack Horseman and the MC was pretty miserable.
Which quests/plot threads from the game would you keep or maybe expand on? While I liked stuff like finding the dead husband of the working class woman, some of the quests simply have little or no bearing on the overall plot of the game, and could be too detatched to make sense in a tv format.
I guess other than the obvious murder, you ought to fit the whole pale plot, maybe even keep the setting up a disco in the church quest as long as it doesn't drag out too much, you'd need all the political options to be represented, though I guess Harry himself shouldn't really embrace any of them. You'd probably need the Innocences explained somehow, while it's mostly through a book in the game itself. Maybe you'd need to cut Cuno altogether, perhaps the doomed commercial area as well.
I wonder how could they pull a show like that off.
The doomed commercial area is tied into the disco church, and Cuno is a pretty big part of the initial corpse investigation.
>1:1 recreation of DE as a TV series
They literally can't. You can't just make a TV series that's a 1:1 recreation of the source material.
I'm not a /misc/tard, but it is a fact that they would have diversity quotas. They would be required to have external writers working on the show. A diverse team of writers. Some of those writes would see this as an opportunity to write their own stories utilizing an established franchise as a stepping stone, as they ALWAYS do. They also would have no control over the casting.
yeah, it certainly has potential, but it would be hard to pull off, especially without the characteristic inner monologues
It would simply not work as a TV series.
Clown world, huh? Hope they get their company back. I'd like to see more games from these people.
By the way, does this have anything to do with the Final Cut and vanilla game?
I'm not sure which I should play.
Played vanilla on PC and the Final Cut on PS4 and noticed the addition of a narrator that sounds black. Not sure what changes between versions, or if one is from the original creators and the other by the company subverters.
Asking as I might finish the game this time. I enjoyed my time with it very much both times, but didn't have time to finish the game.
Final Cut was made before the bullshit happened. The biggest change is everyone being completely voice acted; a Narrator that does all the narration as well as the Skill voices, a few of the VAs were changed completely. There are "Political Vision Quests" you can do on Day 4, only one a run, which are less shitpost-y than the name makes them sound. There's some other minor interactions added, some new achievements, some QoL I can't remember.
That signature is in the worst fricking spot and ruins the whole picture
In my last run, getting-his-shit-together professional Sorry Cop leaning Fascist, despite doing the Moralist Vision Quest, which I think is really funny.
I wish I'd played less before Vision Quests were added, because the Moralist one is the most beautiful of that last time through. Harry is a tiny little man trying to contact a force larger than him for any kind of answers, and when you finally reach the huge monolith, just out of sight but ever-present, its impact drenching the entire world, all he gets back is "Stand by. Something is being done". And life goes on. It's a deeply spiritual moment, a moment of prayer and religious awakening, and a reinforcing of the humanity in the world. There are unimaginable forces of pressure and power at work, the political equivalent of tectonic shifts, and it's incredibly easy to get caught up in that like everyone else, but just outside the little bubble of your view, there IS something being done. You can't possibly see it from where you're standing, but little by little, the world is still being built, and we're all going somewhere.
It wasn't THE answer, but it was what Harry needed to hear. There was no greater truth or elaborate plot or huge revelation of meaning behind Revachol, like he wanted or imagined there would be. But when he came down off that statue, he had learned what he climbed up there to find out, in the end. He knew that the monolith was real, someone was out there trying to reach him too, and that Something Is Being Done.
the cowardice of absolving oneself from the responsibility to act morally through trust in a hollow abstraction certainly is the moralist position
I played a full sober playthrough where I tried to do good by others, always got paid, and apologized too much.
>You have no idea
I also love Communism, please join my Trans-positive discord!
NPC response
Moderators.
game's biggest triumph is making (critical) failures fun to see and reasonable mechanically
for a genre so terribly prone to savescumming, it's a big feaf
My first death in the game being sitting down on a chair made me savescum even more than usual
>feaf
gomenasorry, i'm a reatard
You cant talk about games on Ganker sorry.
have a nice day shill
>haven't seen a single screenshot from the scene creator yet
wow
Is this game made for 'people' that browse leftypol? I'm suspecting it is. They're also furgays to boot so that's even more funny.
So what? they should own up to it.
it's made by commies but not necessarily for commies
>it's made by commies
Into the trash it goes. Chapo traphouse in video game format sounds like AIDS tbh. Hbomberguy is also an uninteresting homosexual and I'm not watching his videos or anything by Contrapoints. Die.
>Game made by commies
It makes fun of commies more than anything else. It calls communism an ideology for losers and that all the communists died fighting for communism
>all the communists died fighting for communism
Wtf I love communism now
I don't understand how women could have worked on this game because if there's one game that I legit can say I have trouble believe women would understand, it's Disco Elysium.
If the kind of alcoholism Harry devolves into, the conversation with the spy, the phonecall and the final dream didn't resonate with you, I will simply assume it's because you're not a man.
And fairly pretty women, too. Lindpare saw right through us.
RPG Codex should be discredited in opinions or popular consensus when it comes to RPGs from now on because they recommended this piece of shit game. The combat in this game is worse than Planescape Torment.
And by saying that, what i really mean is that there is NO combat. This is basically just a point and click adventure.
And that's a good thing, just like Planescape would have benefitted from having no combat, or a way to avoid it other than just running away and hoping enemies can't keep up.
As half arsed as the combat system was in Planescape it was the thing that kept me somewhat engaged. Once something starts being less video gamey for me that's where i start losing interest. Yes I'm that uninterested if table top style rpgs don't attempt to do something like that. I'd rather just play an actual table top instead.
>As half arsed as the combat system was in Planescape it was the thing that kept me somewhat engaged.
PS:T combat ruined the game for me. I can not imagine how anyone could enjoy it.
Planescape was aimed at teen boys, who would've gotten bored and shut the game off 5 minutes in if it didn't have them immediately killing zombies, and constantly interrupt the long-text walls with monster-killing, or even let them kill talking-heads if and when they felt like it or if they couldn't find some other way out of a problem.
I can't even imagine how fricking dumb and in how much of an insular echo-chamber you have to be to type out something so obviously stupid.
I'm not talking about sales you shekel-obsessed cum guzzler, I'm talking about quality of the game. Planescape's awful combat added nothing to the game, and no 'teen boy' would have played through that shit to the end if they didn't care about the writing. So why criticize DE's lack of combat when it also wasn't necessary and would have likely made it worse?
>completely miss the point of the post to an autistic degree
>"hurr durr u stupid"
Holy shit
I think Torment was fine as is, I would however love to see another planescape game in the style of Disco Elysium.
Brain damage. The combat kept Planescape engaging and gave meaning to your party.
>combat kept Planescape engaging
Guess you've never read a book then?
Like it or not, it's a video game. Not a book.
No combat in DE is a really good thing. I'd hate it if the game had a "gameplay loop"
>why doesn't this game let me shoot guns all the time! WTF 0/10!!!!
letting harry shoot at anything he felt like would have greatly improved the game
Kim wouldn't really stand for too much unlawful discharge of firearms
Frick off back to CoD then
Yeah, frick these point 'n' clicks. Time to play some good ass RPGs.
what was the deal with measurehead, what did he lack in order to become a true hardy boy
Real dignity. He goes on about his heritage and his pride, and all his prostitutes care about is "it makes their pussies wet". He can talk all the pseudo-science and philosophy about ham sandwiches he wants, because nobody in the world actually gives a shit, he's just a slab of meat for them.
He looks down on them because he knows he'd never fit in with them. Everything about Measurehead is a cope for the fact he's a giant of a man being shit on by life in Revachol.
I need to frick Harry
What is the best arrangement?
Harry in the back Kim in the front or Kim in the back Harry in the front?
Harry on the floor crying, Kim patting Harry's head
>Oh it's a game about being a detective
>Oh it's a game game about politics, pretending to be a game about being a detective
>Oh it's a game about dealing with alcoholism, pretending to be a game about politics
>Oh it's a game about love, pretending to be a game about dealing with alcoholism
>Oh no
I could've saved her.
She was never real, anon. Whatever she showed you, it wasn't her. It was what she thought would get her what she needed. Maybe she doesn't even know who the real her is anymore, maybe she's been hiding for too long. But you couldn't save her.
you can't even save yourself
The devs really nailed the mind of a schizophrenic alcoholic
t. schizophrenic alcoholic
officers harry and kim, shamrock thot patrol
Agents Pisshomosexual and Frick The World, RCP, on the scene
You made him wear the jacket, right?
You didn't say Frick The Jacket because you lacked the skills to make him wear it, right?
>No portrait
Fricking red-blooded stud detected, FRICK the paste
Past*
Jacketlets like me really are barely literate subhumans
'ate foreigners
'ate bourgeois
'ate poor people
'ate change
luv me reivochol
simple as
what happens if you collect all armor pieces before the mercenary tribunal?
do you still get shot?
You get shot in the leg, the only piece of armor that's missing. Also you can't get the helmet until right at the very end.
as the other anon said, you still get shot in the leg, but the armor lets you tank the 1st shot if you fail to dodge it. also I'm pretty sure the mercs get mad at you for wearing their leader's gear
what the frick did Deserter even eat
He tells you he used to sneak into town and scrounge supplies, then when people stopped giving a shit about the Revolution he could just walk around and nobody noticed him
I gave Klaasje a slip.
I trust her to honor it.
>Shivers: She's getting on a plane and never coming back
>(You): She'll be back. I trust her.
Gimme skills for my next playthrough
Visual Calculus
Physical Instrument
Encyclo-fricking-pedia
drama, electrochemistry, authority
> just being polite
> you're a sorry cop now
Cool for the most part, though the Authority, Suggestion, Half-Light and especially Reaction Speed are downgrades
They're official, by the way. Only Intellect got its portraits finished in time for release and they held off updating the rest
what are those?
I'm guessing vanilla game vs. Final Cut
authority is a major downgrade
What did they mean by this
that kim is a moralist homosexual
they meant that hating entire groups of people is a negative trait for a job that requires you to be as objective as possible
But I'm still an okay detective
>damn it Du Bois, your race theories and the constant women hatred are unacceptable for an officer! You're a loose cannon!
>...but you're a damn good cop
but the real police do just fine??
Why would Harry hate foreigners and women, I wonder?
Couldn't possibly because his fiancée fricked off with a guy from Graad
It's not a game, because it's impossible to get stuck and be unable to continue, so you didn't beat it
>it's impossible to get stuck and be unable to continue
Haven't played it
>BTFOs fascism in just one dialogue line
Fascism if you boil it down is just discomfort with women
Meeting Evert for the first time fricking gave me a whiplashed. The fricking toad is in charge is both terrifying and hilarious. The way he speaks to you have a tinge of condescension.
>tinge
m8 it's fricking dripping, gushing, you're drowning in his sarcasting treacle
Evrart is hilarious. He is so disgustingly shrewd, but everything he says is just golden, great job by the voice actor as well.
what was it you said to trigger that line?
>Get the frick out of here. Don't be a moron.
thank you
>tinge
gave me a good laff
It wasn't Evrart tho.
Why the frick was this moment so painful?
Because you're a male.
I wasn't sad, I was angry.
>I have failed you, brother.
It's fricking over.
Because this is failure.
You're faced with the core of Harry's obsession, and you fell into the same pitfall he fell into before.
You failed to get him to let go of her, and so he's forever stuck dreaming about her, hoping that somehow, the right combination of words will bring her back, when the truth is she's long gone to greener pasture, but he can't accept it, and he'll be back to his miserable self, again and again, until he either finally succeed, or die.
He failed because he put pussy on the pedestal when it belongs in the kitchen
Apparently Harry did everything he could for her, yet she fricked off with some fricking immigrant homosexual.
He was also a great sportsman.
>Apparently Harry did everything he could for her, yet she fricked off with some fricking immigrant homosexual.
The problem is that it's hard to tell what information about their relationship is real and what was made up by him, after 6 years of constantly switching from self-hatred to hating her, you eventually just forget what was real anymore.
It's surprisingly accurate to a strong heartbreak.
It's surprisingly accurate to a strong heartbreak.
It is.
t. someone who took 6 years to get over my ex
what conclusion did you come to? did al-ghul help?
I realized no amount of rumination is gonna help her bring her back. Not just her physically. "HER" as a person whom I knew and love. (Arguably the version I have of her in my head.)
She's gone to her own greener pastures, much like Harry's ex. A new man, a new life. I had to get out of the gutter that I've put myself in and move on. I doubt I'll find the same kind of love again but I'd rather not die pitying myself.
Haha, it only took me 3 years and one excruciating conversation.
At least you guys got over them...
Oh believe me, I know.
5 years ago, a 4 years long relationship. I just stopped even thinking back on it anymore, any memories I have from my time with her are just awful ones and the worst part is I know some of it is made up but I can't even remember what she truly was like before she fricked me over.
Here's a great question. What parts were real, and what parts where Harry reflecting his own self-loathing?
So I completed the game too. Can someone explain to me about the whole 2mm hole plot and the pale? Is the reality of DE basically collapsing?
yeah pretty much
That's quite melancholic. I wasn't just too sure it was "real" real or it was just a concept being thrown around. Making Harry try to get his shit together, only to realize it would almost be for naught in the next few decades feels almost futile.
Harry can save it. Not Raphael Ambrosius Costeau, or Tequila Sunset, or Dick Mullen, or any of the other people that he tried to replace himself with, but Harry Du Bois.
The game is a prequel to the book, Revachol is already gone
Oh shit did Sacred Air get translated? When did this happen?
https://gofile.io/d/XR6BKy
Finally I get to read it, thanks anon.
you are a based individual and don't let anyone tell you otherwise
The fact that your ex doesn't love you, but Revachol does, hit me hard.
Less than 30 years before the Pale consumes what's left of the planet
Did you have the talk with Joyce?
She explains everything to you in detail.
Also, the book (Sacred and terrible Air) further explains it.
From what I understand, time flow in two directions, and the Pale is the result of futures that can no longer exist because it got altered/stolen by Innocences.
It made me wonder, does that mean the power of Innocences is time limited, as eventually the future timeline will become the past?
>/misc/ incarnate
>giggahomie with a degree in phrenology
based
>tfw no sequel with Cuno and Cunoesse as detectives and playable characters
Imagine the kino monologues with Cuno
>Cunoesse
she's a lost cause
probably dead in a ditch somewhere in a few years
maybe in prison
but yeah, Cuno going from a rowdy moron c**t to taking autistic interest in cop work is fun, I'd love to see him in the police force in some years
>she's a lost cause
She's 12. She's living in a storm-drain, reading storybooks by flashlight and giggling with her only friend in the world about what a hardcore little gang they have and how they're going to take over the world when they get older.
Cuno tells you stories about how he's a speed-dealing badass killer from Night City, only second to his terrifying murder-brawler of a father. When Cunoesse tells stories that scare Cuno, about how she's half-demon and she's killed men with her bare hands and it took fifty pigs to bring her in and drop her off in Revachol, what does that tell you about the kind of life she'd lived?
Cuno is shit scared of Cunoesse and joins the RCM in part to get the frick away from her
So do you guys still go through expository dialogues on your second playthrough or just go straight for the plot.
I go through it all. I soak it in. But I'm the weird kind of moron that goes through the whole thing when I replay NV or KOTOR 2 or Chrono Trigger, or any game with a particularly good story, and, when I'm not playing it, I'm thinking about more things in the same universe, like Harry getting his life together and starting a small relationship with Lilienne, a tiny piece of mundane sober reality to dispel the intoxicating, fantasy he's been living in for so long.
>I finally beat the game and can participate in the threads
No one here beat it so you wasted your time.
I still don't know how to feel about Joyce. She seemed so genuine and helpful compared to Evrart it set off my alarms, but I couldn't really find anything explicitly wrong with her.
I liked her in the end, but I felt like I shouldn't.
I might be reading it wrong but I think Kim doesn't want you being buddy buddy with her is because he's afraid about you knowing about the Pale would freak you out and her being sort of an outside player to the whole case being shared sensitive information did not sit right with him.
Yeah, I liked her too. Seemed like the most helpful and empathetic character in the entire game.
Joyce is pretty straightforward in terms of what she wants from you and why it helps her. Surprisingly, it turns out that she isn't really hiding anything as such, besides being touched by the pale. I liked her too. She's one of the only people in the entire setting who is straight with you from the beginning.
She's not a negotiator, she's very likely the reason the mercenaries are there in the first place
>but I couldn't really find anything explicitly wrong with her
She's on the wrong side of the conflict. Willingly, fully comprehending the destruction she wreaks.
> cool new fiction world
> has a built-in inevitable apocalypse to prevent it from going into the future
well, shit
They could cover other places, though. And the apocalypse happens several decades later.
>cool new fiction world
>cool
>le heckin wholesome dice maker
>le tragic failed indie game dev studio
It's a reddit world.
Go back to that cesspool called Reddit you worthless moron.
Harry DuBois is gonna save the world, the pale CAN be tamed
how
Churches, Clubs, and Anodic Dance Music
Did anyone make a fanart of the part where Harry and Kim dance?
I love how this image is accurate to the events of the game
What was the point of the Sunday Friend?
He demonstrated that it was 100% possible to speak for a long time, without actually saying anything.
To demonstrate the inhumanity of the MoralIntern and explain why Revachol is still such a shithole after 50 years of their "rule"
To show that liberalism is there to, at best, preserve the status quo, and more likely to just exploit those who aren't in the ingroup of nations at the behest of the ingroup