Apparently, idk. The three certainly will play a key role and bhaal is revived and activated sarevok (a homeless drug addict) as cleric.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>activated sarevok (a homeless drug addict) as cleric
That's from a non-canon Dungeon Master's Guild adventure module, anon.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Is that so?
Still pretty confident that sarevok will show up.
11 months ago
Anonymous
My bet is rather on Imoen. Coran is a given, since he's an influential noble within the city.
11 months ago
Anonymous
100% imoen. Hopefully not horribly voiced.
Pretty sure korgan and Jan are at least mentioned as well.
Cleric and Bard are both ridiculously versatile.
It's ridiculous how op they are. Wizard is no match for them. Bard of valor is buffer, fighter, full caster and has like all the skills in the world.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>korgan and Jan
When and where?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Imoen
Will she call us a queer fellow?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm more interested in that response from Swen that the non-Origin party members can instead be our enemies/adverseries. We already know this is the case for Minathra, but he also confirmed it for Minsc and Jaheira.
Is this what's going on with Halsin? Will he be exclusive to Jaheira through some story choices shenanigans?
If yes, it means there's a lot more party members that haven't been revealed.
Cleric is likely the worst multiclass class. It's actually all classes in one. Cleric is actually a one man party in 5e.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Cleric and Bard are both ridiculously versatile.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Cleric is like the most common multiclass dip wtf are you talking about
11 months ago
Anonymous
Why? Do the subclasses come early and are front loaded?
I will play an Oath of Ancients Paladin with Jaheira and we WILL protect nature and the trees and the little birdies
How wise, oh omnipresent authority figure.
11 months ago
Anonymous
In 5e yeah. Full casters get heavier armor and shield proficiency with only a 1 level dip and some of the most powerful auras in the game.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I personally am not a fan of multiclassing. Not my thing.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Second that, I'm heavy into actually roleplaying a character, so I'd rather create one that makes sense, story-wise.
Also, any words on the Hermit and Sailor backgrounds? That last one seems especially...odd. Are we going to get some boat action in the full game?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Are we going to get some boat action
Maybe not in full but Baldur's Gate is a port city
11 months ago
Anonymous
You don't have to go pure single class if you want to roleplay a character. It's not hard to see how a monk could pick up some fighter skills or a nature cleric might become a druid.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The Hermit will be hilarious, since this indicates they'll probably add a ton of dialogue options/choices to the effect off: >Leave me alone! And get off of my lawn!
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, doubt you'll get heavy armor from a dip. You will have to start as cleric and then change the class.
Second that, I'm heavy into actually roleplaying a character, so I'd rather create one that makes sense, story-wise.
Also, any words on the Hermit and Sailor backgrounds? That last one seems especially...odd. Are we going to get some boat action in the full game?
We will see Friday. Maybe.
Yeah, there are vehicles in hell.
There are also multiclass combos that make sense flavour wise.
You don't have to go pure single class if you want to roleplay a character. It's not hard to see how a monk could pick up some fighter skills or a nature cleric might become a druid.
Why would you want it changed? She is the evil route, Shadowheart is the one you can corrupt/uncorrupt from Shar. Changing Minthara so you can dick her as a good guy seems stupid.
What exactly is her route? Do you have to betray and kill everyone?
You have to give up the location of the druid grove, and also participate on the goblin side killing all the tieflings/druids there.
It's just standard evil bullshit. >I NEED THING >YOU HELP ME GET THING >I LIKE THAT YOU GOT THING FOR ME > I FRICK YOU NOW
Sounds a lot like zoomer women now that I think about it.
just because you want to play a moralgay character doesn't mean the choices you would not make are 'dumb as frick'
when the EA came out the first thing i did was the minthara route without even knowing or expecting i'd be able to bang her or that it would make her recruitable in the full game
It's not pragmatic. It's not intelligent. It's just evil for evil's sake and more likely to frick yourself over than not if you have a brain capable of calculation. It's a transparent "choose this for evil and breasts" route that only works through metagame motivations.
>It's not pragmatic.
The druids can't help you. Minthara has a tadpole and is working with the Absolute, whoever they are. Why would a pragmatic character not at the very least briefly consider her route to be more likely to solve the tadpole issue? Why would a pragmatic character care about refugees and druids?
The motivation for going to to the goblin camp in the first place is to find Halsin, who you are told might be able to help you, and by the time you find out he can't help you've already chosen a side. The script could do a better job of tempting your character into performing evil acts by explicitly promising you things and actually delivering, but it doesn't. As it stands you're simply told what to do but they don't properly motivate you to do it, you must simply obey. The way things are currently set up only really works for Drow characters.
Dos2 movement.
Yeah, your story is sad and touching, but I really want the exp, so... Die?
i doubt it's more xp since you lose out on killing all the goblins
11 months ago
Anonymous
If all you care about is experience, you can just attack them whenever, but in terms of story the whole camp goes hostile after the celebration because The Absolute hates you for some reason.
11 months ago
Anonymous
even if you talk minthara into helping you? i don't recall killing all the goblins afterwards but maybe i just didn't return to the goblin camp
Can't you kill goblins and druids?
if you want to max xp then sure, do all the quests then kill everyone
11 months ago
Anonymous
I believe we will spend 30-40% of the game max level.
11 months ago
Anonymous
probably, or they'll do some weird xp scaling where the latter levels take forever
11 months ago
Anonymous
I believe we will spend 30-40% of the game max level.
In DOS2 you got to half of the level cap by the end of ACT1. Levels slowed down a lot after that. Expect the same here
11 months ago
Anonymous
Level cap is 23. I finish act 1 with level 8/9. Just replayed it.
Tbh if you don't use tricks in the last fight, you need level 23, as the enemies have ridiculous stat/armor bloat.
Just finished reading the whole divinity timeline. Actually stroy is rather bad and Lucian and braxus constantly reviving is rather lame. For like 10y and the void always loosing big league against 1-4 humans/mortals. How they push malady as both protagonist and antagonist is beyond ridiculous.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Can you even get to 23 without cheating? I though the max was 21 with extreme metagaming, and they expected most people to get to 20.
Also I remembered finishing act 1 at 10. Maybe I'm misremembering
Also yeah they never really cared about Divinity lore until the second game. It was just a patchwork job
11 months ago
Anonymous
Arx has lots of exp. I am usually underleveled like 16/17 for whatever reason and when I did all in arx. Via guide I ended up With exactly 23.
Tried the end boss with 20, was oneshotted with top gear. Thank god I saved before purchasing, so. I did EVERYTHING in arx and then purchased new gear (was at 300 gold after that) and won the fight with main char standing with like 5 hp.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You have to do it in right order, for instance there are multiple ambushes, finish quests and kill the quest giver (if its a meanie) in arx etc. The game doesn't register the killing anyway in the ending slides. Even picked talk to animals, despite it being ultra dumb and did quests there. Some quests/exp are hidden behind persuasion checks.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Killing Lohse’s demon master was one of the most thrilling and challenging game memories I have. Took a while. In the last fight I used that metamorph ability that put everyone at mid health. Since it used all of its best abilities out the gate and I saved mine and just took damage, it totally changed the course of the fight. Fun time. What a b***h of a boss.
11 months ago
Anonymous
There are a lot of memorable fights in DOS 2.
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
SOVL
but >console
11 months ago
Anonymous
I mean I just googled blackpits and picked an image. But if you wanna be a shit go for it I guess.
11 months ago
Anonymous
This was such a good moron filter.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I played it just last night, since I wanted to do a run to occupy time till BG3 lands.
Honestly it's just genuinely fun, as much fun as I remember it being. The fire and music makes the atmosphere tense but that just adds to how enjoyable it is. Sure the fight is difficult, but be smart and you can have a good time.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I love fights that filter people out. I love fights that make you think outside of the box.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Honestly first time I fricked her quest up. Dunno how I did that. Don't spoiler. Playing rn and lohse quest is on track.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Larian's OCs are just annoying as frick and always have been
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, totally didn't like the concept, really.
Also linear progression in stats doesn't work, not in poe nor in dos nor oblivion. It's just idiotic.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Hope not. Would break pacing. Like wotr, here, last level for last fight. How dumb are you??!
Why? Anything other than Human Male Fighter is the troony option. If you really want to LARP as Aragorn then Ranger is okay. And for you flaming homosexuals out there who are too queer and feminine for normal classes, vanilla sorcerer or wizard is an acceptable option. If see any of pick your special snowflake races and classes I will bash your into the ground. You've been warned.
No, I love bg3. My issue is only with you special snowflake trannies and genderfluid queers. All those flowery classes and races exist merely as flavor for the world. You're not supposed to actually pick them. All's I'm saying is that if we were playing BG3 together and I saw you pick one of those classes you'd wake up in a hospital. That's all.
No, I love bg3. My issue is only with you special snowflake trannies and genderfluid queers. All those flowery classes and races exist merely as flavor for the world. You're not supposed to actually pick them. All's I'm saying is that if we were playing BG3 together and I saw you pick one of those classes you'd wake up in a hospital. That's all.
Why so boring bro?
Why? Anything other than Human Male Fighter is the troony option. If you really want to LARP as Aragorn then Ranger is okay. And for you flaming homosexuals out there who are too queer and feminine for normal classes, vanilla sorcerer or wizard is an acceptable option. If see any of pick your special snowflake races and classes I will bash your into the ground. You've been warned.
You know the IP count isn't rising, you schizo samegay?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm only 3115101, you paranoid cretin.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It says one. Me and you are already two, you laughable existence.
Nothing iconic.
Sure, you have useful stuff and powerful stuff, but stool club and salami isn't exactly carsomyr, is it?
At least we don't have diablo 2 style loot in bg3.
>Why? Anything other than Human Male Fighter is the troony option.
.....bait or schizophrenia? I can't tell anymore
Implying there's a difference in this case.
It's just standard evil bullshit. >I NEED THING >YOU HELP ME GET THING >I LIKE THAT YOU GOT THING FOR ME > I FRICK YOU NOW
Sounds a lot like zoomer women now that I think about it.
Run 4 instances of the game (at low graphics if you need to), host a multiplayer session for them, save at the start, quit, load and you got a full party all under your control.
Dunno who you're playing with, but I'm sorry to hear they're so slow at thinking.
The group I DM for does their consideration during other players turns, so by the time theirs comes around they know what to do and do it. Combat is typically pretty snappy.
Apparently form the get go this time, unlike dos2 where you needed to complete act 1 before the slapped a nexus mod to the DE and falsely claimed they are generous.
Edit
Now that discarded companions don't die after act 1, merc team is the way to go, as origins will patiently wait at camp to text you with their cuck tales before your goyim ve'tahv goes back to sleep, oy vey.
Good choice. Multiclassing delays growth in the main class so should be avoided without a plan. Paladins and Clerics don't get much benefit from Feats so you can confidently choose to simply increase your Strength or Wisdom respectively.
Tridents can now rush (attack with free move),cripple and bleed targets once each per short rest so at least they're better than Spears than can only rush.
Pikes rush, bleed and get to reroll damage once each per short rest. They're fine I guess. Still no Polearm Master so they're not as good as they could be.
Maces can daze but Morningstars can as well plus some chest smashing attack that I don't know what it does. Plus D8 (piercing) damage instead of D6. Or warhammers which are just a D8 mace. Maces are still just a weapon for clerics without martial weapon proficiency to use.
Damage type hardly matters. Bludgeoning is just the favorite because it's good against skeletons (which you fight at level 2) while the other damage types have very, very rare differences which don't come up in BG3.
>which don't come up in BG3
Doesn't really come up in 5e either unless you're using unofficial rule modification books. Guess that makes it pretty accurate.
Polearm master was confirmed on Friday along other feats. They only introduced 20 new spells in that update, hope more a on the way.
That's what I thought, they pretty much abandoned it. Skeletons shouldn't be worthy enemy anyway.
Your favourite weapon so far?
>and falsely claimed they are generous.
I assume you have evidence and aren't talking out of your ass
Right anon?
I don't have a screen ap to spoonfeed you bratty American, but I got that reply 2y ago on the larian forums. Goftbag like early magic mirror was originally a nexus mod. Others, too. Not sure if all bags were on nexus, majority was iirc.
Or do you mean custom team from the start? That was confirmed together with rolling stats. Back then custom tavs (lol, larian discovered israelites) ought to have some personality. I'm sure they scrapped that part though.
>which don't come up in BG3
Doesn't really come up in 5e either unless you're using unofficial rule modification books. Guess that makes it pretty accurate.
Damage types?
Other multiclasses:
Paladin goes with anything front loaded (fighter, monk) or full caster for tons of smites.
Others are usually using the same stat, like ranger druid or barb +fighter/rogue.
Gimping choices are barb and caster and mixed casters like druid cleric.
All in all most combos are mostly flav, some combos like thief + martial or pallock are broken.
>Your favourite weapon so far?
Just dual wielding a shortsword and a scimitar.
Two weapon fighting is better than other weapons before level five and just as good at level 5.
Once Polearm Master is in I'll probably use a Spear and Shield since the Duelist Fighting style add a flat +2 damage to all attacks including the extra bonus action attack. Making two D6+5 attacks plus an extra D4+5 attack and maybe another D6+5 attack if an enemy walks into range on their turn while also holding a shield is just super neato.
If they flub Polearm Master somehow then Crossbow Expert to get an extra attack with Hand Crossbows.
If they mess Crossbow Expert up as well then I don't know. Wait for mods, I guess.
Don't know. The description suggests it doesn't but online discussion says it does but I can't be bothered to make a character to find out. I'll just hope those online people are correct and stay correct.
11 months ago
Anonymous
When you start after release just pick human first to browse feats.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Looks like Variant Human won't be in so no bonus feat.
Though I'm sure people will make a mod for that, eventually. But I don't like modding new games because of all the patches potentially clashing with mods.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Ah damn, I forgot. There are two humans. Curious if they allowing rolling for stats and how they implement it. On the ps blog there's a tieflings with 17 dex on lvl1.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Pretty sure you can already manually assign stats. There isn't an in game roller AFAIK but you can roll it yourself easily.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Ah damn, I forgot. There are two humans. Curious if they allowing rolling for stats and how they implement it. On the ps blog there's a tieflings with 17 dex on lvl1.
Pretty sure you can already manually assign stats. There isn't an in game roller AFAIK but you can roll it yourself easily.
Also keep in mind, anons, that both races and SUBRACES have reactivity in-game. For example, I can bet any money that Zariel Tiefling will have a ton of unique content, since she's a huge part of the storyline of the prequel adventure module and the Minsc comics.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Also keep in mind, anons, that both races and SUBRACES have reactivity in-game.
No they dont.
>or example, I can bet any money that Zariel Tiefling will have a ton of unique content, since she's a huge part of the storyline of the prequel adventure module and the Minsc comics.
You having 5 extra lines in the game is not "reactivity" you moronic shill.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>No they dont.
Yes they do. Half-Drow, for example.
>you moronic shill
Why are you even here?
because they literally said the cap is 12 like 3 days ago when they did the blog. >no incentive
To use this system they just spend 5 years fleshing out? Why would you make a 5e homebrew system for one game? You can reuse spells effects and shit but OS3 isn't going to use concentration, reaction system etc
>To use this system they just spend 5 years fleshing out? Why would you make a 5e homebrew system for one game? You can reuse spells effects and shit but OS3 isn't going to use concentration, reaction system etc
They already confirmed a sequel.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Yes they do.
No they dont and I already explained to you why.
>Why are you even here?
because youre a shill lying to people about shit that isnt in the game.
11 months ago
Anonymous
There is ''Story Mode'' for people that want varian human. I mean if you need a crutch to play the game you might as well play on easy LMAO!
11 months ago
Anonymous
>All those different Dragonborn you can be >No Wild elves
reeeeeeeee, I know they aren't in 5e, but I want more elves, I also want them to differentiate between Sun elves and Moon elves
11 months ago
Anonymous
As a moon elf I don't mind. Moon elves are mechanically the same as sun elves and they have separate options for each so I'm happy.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>browse feats
Variant Humans don't exist, unless they just didn't advertise the race sheet. I honestly think it will be an option at launch, it will just be listed under Human to take the +1 to all or feat at start.
Don't know. The description suggests it doesn't but online discussion says it does but I can't be bothered to make a character to find out. I'll just hope those online people are correct and stay correct.
I used Cheat Engine to test, and yes 1H weapon+Shield still gives the +2 from dueling
11 months ago
Anonymous
Isn't it +3 to stats and feat vs +1 to all?
Cheat engine from nexus?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Its +1 to TWO different stats of choices, a skill you choose you become proficient in, and a feat. Its ridiculously better than +1 to all. I just Cheat Engine from, Cheat engine. Hell any mod would work as long as you can spawn/get in a 1H weapon and shield at the start and wack something. You could just use basket full of equipment, loot a spear and shield from it, and go hit an imp.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Two +1s and a Feat.
Though they made the Ability Score Increase that you get from leveling a Feat as well so they'll probably have to fenangle it so you can't get a +3 to one stat at level 1.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>at launch
Hate to break it to you, but Larian already confirmed in an interview this year the game will be feature complete - no additional DLCs/content patches are planned.
They have a sequel to make, after all.
Here's the proof. Couldn't be more straightforward.
>No, there are no DLC planned.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>at launch
Hate to break it to you, but Larian already confirmed in an interview this year the game will be feature complete - no additional DLCs/content patches are planned.
They have a sequel to make, after all.
"planned" They are putting it all into launch then what comes after is in the air. The same post said level cap is 10.
11 months ago
Anonymous
1.And what makes you think that's not the level cap?
2. Larian has no incentive to churn out DLC. As stated above, they already said there'll be a sequel.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>And what makes you think that's not the level cap?
The showed off Otto's Irresistible Dance which you can't get till level 11.
11 months ago
Anonymous
because they literally said the cap is 12 like 3 days ago when they did the blog. >no incentive
To use this system they just spend 5 years fleshing out? Why would you make a 5e homebrew system for one game? You can reuse spells effects and shit but OS3 isn't going to use concentration, reaction system etc
11 months ago
Anonymous
They will have to add new classes to bg4. Think about it.
They might release them on the go for bg3.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>They will have to add new classes to bg4.
They already have all 5th Edition classes except the Artificer. If anything, they'll add some new subclasses, and even that's iffy, since you'll be simply importing your save game.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>They already have all 5th Edition classes
All the 2014 5e classes. Next year WotC plans to release a revision of the system and unless they change their mind at the last second they're already making some hefty changes to a lot of classes in the playtest material.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, they said outright "no DLCs". How much of a clear answer do you need? No "we're thinking about it" or "we're open to the idea". Just a plain NO.
And I applaud them for that. We've had 15 years of that "wait until all the content DLCs are out" bullshit. What was the last AAA RPG that came out feature complete? KOTOR?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Updates like DE aren't dlc. I'm ready to bet that we will get more content of one form or another on the road and likely for free.
>Halsin is confirmed.
No, no he isn't. Point me to an actual source.
Bg3 plebbit everyone is talking about it. The only actual research I do is multiclassing, hence the thread.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Updates like DE aren't dlc. I'm ready to bet that we will get more content of one form or another on the road and likely for free.
What don't you get about "the game will be feature complete on release?" They're not going the Owlcat route of "release a half finished game, and then spend the next two years on DLCs, DEs, and content patches." That was the whole point of the long development cycle. They made it clear in multiple interviews - the game will be done on release.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You don't understand. Classes in BG3 are more than just what they can do in combat and what skills they have. They have reactivity to them, by npcs and companions, which isn't as easy to implement, as a class in a game like Kingmaker or Wrath. Implementing new classes to BG3 will take a lot of time, unless Larian decides to make them less immersive and reactive, which I doubt, since they have no reason to do.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I do understand. I don't believe there won't be any update until bg4. I can live fine with it, sure.
I don't think that will be the case. I can be wrong, sure.
11 months ago
Anonymous
My point was that they can't just port the classes from a BG4 (if they're even working on one), because it requires a lot of work on BG3. This work required is work away from BG4.
I won't claim the chance is zero though, because Swen is ultimately the one who decides and he hasn't really been dictated by money for his decisions.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not all obvs. But if the bring 30 new subclasses, 2 or so come to bg3. Bg4 is likely I conception phase for a while now. Do you think wotc and 10c let sven decide after 6m sales in wa alone?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I do understand. I don't believe there won't be any update until bg4. I can live fine with it, sure.
I don't think that will be the case. I can be wrong, sure.
Also... which class? Only Artificer is left, and that would require probably another 2 years of development, since he'd have to have his own unique content + introducing mechanisms/technology as actual game assets/mechanics.
It seems Larian is performing an experiment - take a long development cycle, make a game feature complete, and see the results. Hopefully it'll sell like hotcakes, since I'm honestly sick and tired of waiting several years post release for a game to be 'done."
11 months ago
Anonymous
By the by, nobody pointed it out, but thanks to "Circle of the Land" Druids we know exactly which environments will be present in-game:
Arctic: Hold Person Icon.png Hold Person, Spike Growth Icon.png Spike Growth
Underdark: Web Icon.png Web, Misty Step Icon.png Misty Step
The "arctic" one is especially interesting to me, since the region around Baldur's Gate doesn't have such environments - unless there's a change of seasons in-game, and we get an actual winter.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>nobody pointed it out, but thanks to "Circle of the Land" Druids we know exactly which environments will be present in-game
Nobody pointed it out because Circle of the Land doesn't need to be into an environment to select it. It's a neat flavorful detail and nothing more.
It's not like the Ranger's Natural Explorer feature (thankfully changed from the tabletop version into something useful), that feature could've actually given some solid hints about the type of terrains.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I would agree with you, if not for the existence of extremely specific environments like "Coastal". If this was just for flavour, you'd think we would get more exotic ones, like "Jungle".
So no, I think those are all in-game environments.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Subclasses then. IMHO there are way more classes in dnd, might be wrong though.
Rather this then day one edition.
By the by, nobody pointed it out, but thanks to "Circle of the Land" Druids we know exactly which environments will be present in-game:
Arctic: Hold Person Icon.png Hold Person, Spike Growth Icon.png Spike Growth
Underdark: Web Icon.png Web, Misty Step Icon.png Misty Step
The "arctic" one is especially interesting to me, since the region around Baldur's Gate doesn't have such environments - unless there's a change of seasons in-game, and we get an actual winter.
Where did you find that? What follows if we travel in desert vs arctic?
What do you think of 6 ranger, 2 fighter, 4 monk?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not in 5th Edition. BG3 has all the classes except Artificer.
>Where did you find that?
When you play a Druid of the Land, you choose a specialized environment connected to you.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Really? All the others are subclasses then? OK... Didn't know.
One thing that pissed me off about the beta was the weapons all doing the same damage :
- 1h small weapon does 1d4
- 1h medium 1d6/8
- 2h 1d10
It's not a big deal but this uniformity reeks of lazy, and its even worse considering its a quadruple A game.
This is a weakness of the 5th edition ruleset. They made the most mass marketable D&D edition ever and in the process, as always, removed anything remotely interesting from the game.
You can keep crying about it or go browse some other threads. Really tired of hearing same people whine about other people who discuss about this game.
>You can keep crying about it or go browse some other threads
You can keep crying about it or go to reddit.
>Really tired of hearing same people whine about other people who discuss about this game
Reddit really loves BG3.
They also pay their jannies in hotpockets.
Minthara is the bad drow domina, isn't she? How's she a paladin?
Halsin is confirmed and obvs druid and Friday we get a new origin. Dragonborn monk?
There is ''Story Mode'' for people that want varian human. I mean if you need a crutch to play the game you might as well play on easy LMAO!
If the balance it like wotr by owlcucks I will switch hard story hard again. As encounter variety for these fricks means crystallizer demon ogres riding bisexual centipede tieflings made of vulcanic mithril.
>How's she a paladin?
They basically merged paladins and anti-paladins into one archetype - a holy warrior of a given faith, no matter its tenets.
>Halsin is confirmed and obvs druid
Jaheira is a confirmed companion, so I'm iffy on Halsin, since that would make Druid a class that has two companions - and the only class to do so. So either he's out, or else Larian is holding back a shit ton of companions.
So why the frick would anyone play as Druid, seeing as you have TWO companions with that class?
11 months ago
Anonymous
To feel in good company.
Are you saying that you wouldn't play Fighter and make a Fighter only party if you had the option?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm heterosexual, so no.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>He doesn't make a single class themed party
11 months ago
Anonymous
I only do that. Crossbow gang, 2h pistol for all, natures band of blossoms, drow wizard party of 6 aso...
11 months ago
Anonymous
whos the other druid?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Halsin. Which makes me think there are other "non-Origin" companions in-game, since it's very unlike Larian to duplicate a single class.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Jaheira. Unless they make her a ranger, in which case what the frick do you do with Minsc.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You don't take everyone with you, you can take only 4. The others will stay in your camp.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>we know you want to romance jason isaacs >like a steamy vampire and hunky druid >ask us about THAT halsin scene
Every fricking time they reference romances it's gay shit. Disgusting.
What class and combo would give the most options for a gish type playstyle?
I want to do martial things like swing a greatsword and frick shit up. I also want to cast some spells like maybe create water to set up sick combos with ice or lightning with another arcane party member, or cast mirror image, shield, or invisibility for defense.
Is Eldritch knight worth using? the spell progression is so slow and never gets fireball.
Hexblade would have been perfect but it's not in.
War cleric? it does get extra attacks(with bonus action use) but that only seems a level 1-4 thing because at level 5+ i get cantrip progression which would be better and spirit weapon and spirit guardian.
is what I want undoable?
Have you read
Polearm master was confirmed on Friday along other feats. They only introduced 20 new spells in that update, hope more a on the way.
That's what I thought, they pretty much abandoned it. Skeletons shouldn't be worthy enemy anyway.
Your favourite weapon so far?
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I don't have a screen ap to spoonfeed you bratty American, but I got that reply 2y ago on the larian forums. Goftbag like early magic mirror was originally a nexus mod. Others, too. Not sure if all bags were on nexus, majority was iirc.
Or do you mean custom team from the start? That was confirmed together with rolling stats. Back then custom tavs (lol, larian discovered israelites) ought to have some personality. I'm sure they scrapped that part though.
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Damage types?
Other multiclasses:
Paladin goes with anything front loaded (fighter, monk) or full caster for tons of smites.
Others are usually using the same stat, like ranger druid or barb +fighter/rogue.
Gimping choices are barb and caster and mixed casters like druid cleric.
All in all most combos are mostly flav, some combos like thief + martial or pallock are broken.
You have to answer questions first: heavy armour or dex? Magic cc or damage or buffs? Extra attack? 2 or DW?
Ek as it is know is only flavour, as shield, booming blade and everything else this bad subclass needs is not anmohnced/confirmed.
Clerics don't need multiclass, bards neither.
11 months ago
Anonymous
what would a damage oriented cleric look like?
I'd want to use my concentration on spirit weapon or spirit guardians I'm assuming?
could i do a str based cleric pick up Great weapon Master and use duplicity to give me advantage on attack rolls?
Im not really bothered by a dex or str build i just want to be able to fight in the frontlines or do cool shit in the backlines from time to time.
how about bard what would they do? I remember seeing them doing some hand crossbow type stuff but i never thought that looked too cool tbh.. maybe if im trying to be some type of han solo/indiana jones in dnd type thing.
is sword bard any good?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sword bard is a machine. With 2 lvl in fighter barb you can dual wield anything into oblivion, and you are a full caster in medium/heavy armor.
Cleric has 100 builds, really.
You suggestion is viable.
Crossbow dual wield with 3 or 5 lvl if rogue is among the highest single target dps per attack.
I Diana Jones, ey? Then either bard or eldritch knight or multiclass either of them.
11 months ago
Anonymous
2hand* obviously I was referring to great weapons
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Sword bard is a machine. With 2 lvl in fighter barb you can dual wield anything into oblivion, and you are a full caster in medium/heavy armor.
Can you do a per level until level 5 atleast?
is it level 1 bard then 2 levels in fighter/barb and go back into bard?
11 months ago
Anonymous
You only need barb or fighter for proficiencies like armour, second wind aso, as sword gets the extra attack on lvl 6 and is a full caster. Max charisma with asi and put 13+ into str/con or dex is you are into finesse weapons.
11 months ago
Anonymous
thank you boss! looking forward to trying this out!
In 5e you can use quarterstaff with shield...?
Or can you switch via button from 1h to 2h?
The only difference are like 2 damage points? In that case shield is the clear winner.
At least in BG3 there are bunch of weapons you can use either as two handed or one handed. Quarterstaffa are one of those weapon types. I don't know how things are in the pen and paper but from what i understand there are differences between BG3 and the pen and paper on many occasions.
Idk either, IMHO it's the same in 5e. They bundled weapons into 1h, versatile (only with feat usable dual wield) and 2h weapons (only diablo 2 barbarian can dual wield those).
I mightve changed my mind and will likely triple class, if I can find 4 good combos.
That's true. Was referring to versatile.
IMHO the modals are partly from. Dos, partly from. OneDnD.
>Updates like DE aren't dlc. I'm ready to bet that we will get more content of one form or another on the road and likely for free.
What don't you get about "the game will be feature complete on release?" They're not going the Owlcat route of "release a half finished game, and then spend the next two years on DLCs, DEs, and content patches." That was the whole point of the long development cycle. They made it clear in multiple interviews - the game will be done on release.
What class and combo would give the most options for a gish type playstyle?
I want to do martial things like swing a greatsword and frick shit up. I also want to cast some spells like maybe create water to set up sick combos with ice or lightning with another arcane party member, or cast mirror image, shield, or invisibility for defense.
Is Eldritch knight worth using? the spell progression is so slow and never gets fireball.
Hexblade would have been perfect but it's not in.
War cleric? it does get extra attacks(with bonus action use) but that only seems a level 1-4 thing because at level 5+ i get cantrip progression which would be better and spirit weapon and spirit guardian.
is what I want undoable?
Insane lunatic. Expect me to post 500 screenshot?
The game has more than quadruple the lines in English than bg2 has in all lamguageswith combined, and 3 has fewer companions than 2. 170h dialogue is quite large. Every other reaction is (sub) class or (sub) race. You insect, you crawling disgrace.
>Insane lunatic. Expect me to post 500 screenshot?
Its telling that you couldn't even post 5.
>It has a lot of writing that means it exists
Am I talking to a legitmate moron?
>You insect, you crawling disgrace.
You are the one who is making up shit out of nowhere, you absolute subhuman. You soulless degenerate who is oozing dishonesty to his fellow men.
In exchange for what actually? Do you at least get paid for making this shit up?
Bc I only watched playthrough here and there and in 1h there were easily 5. Do you really think I will look them up and post them here for like all races?
Clearly basis stats overwhelms you, done with your meme brain.
>It's actually stupid that Wyll gets a story for it's patron and the protag doesn't.
Because the game is about the writers OCs and not you.
>Clearly basis stats overwhelms you, done with your meme brain.
Black person, what is wrong with your brain? Do you have some sort of Zoomer-Autism where whenever someone states a mild criticism your knee-jerk reaction is to defend [PRODUCT] mindlessly?
I already told you, that references to your race sprinkled throughout the game here and there arent reacitivity.
You said its there. You go far to sperg out about how its there.
So provide some fricking examples or you're full of shit, you mindless fandrone.
>I already told you, that references to your race sprinkled throughout the game here and there arent reacitivity
Tpdau my reading comprehension isn't really worth mentioning.
I didn't register that.
In that case I agree. It's often like: >oh, you are x, hence text for x...
And x is never mentioned again. It do be like that in most cases, sure. Main reason is that the cuckold team shits on our product experience and are living their wild west fetishes to the fullest.
>The third Dwarf subrace will be playable at launch, adding a stoic and subterranean cousin to the dwarven family tree. We’ve also added a ton of reactivity around these characters, with over 200 new dialogue responses tailored to Duergar-kind.
I'm opting for Warlock for my 1st time, probably GOO or maybe Fiend. It's the only class I miss, when playing the Pathfinder vidyas.
Kind of unrelated with the thread, but can some kind anon enlighten me on Shadowheart's and Minthara's romances (since Lae'zel is ugly as sin plus I haven't heard anything good about hers)?
>Isn't warlock defacto witch/hag?
No, Warlock is more akin to Kineticist mechanically, only of a much different flavour when it comes to explaining their powers.
? Kineticist controls energy elements with his mind/body. Warlock and witch have a patron and are arcane casters. They both use established spells like magic missile, melfs, aso. Kineticist just go brrr without his attacks bearing names of actual arch mages.
Eldritch blast has eldritch in its name, indicating an occult power behind it's pact. Same as witch and patron in Pf.
>Kind of unrelated with the thread, but can some kind anon enlighten me on Shadowheart's and Minthara's romances (since Lae'zel is ugly as sin plus I haven't heard anything good about hers)?
Shadowheart is currently only romanceable on the good route, you drink some wine with her and share a chaste kiss, it doesn't go further than that.
MIntharra is only currently only romanceable on the evil route, after you slaughter some druids and refugees, she proposes sex to celebrate. She doms you, unless you pass an intimidation check so you can dom her. She then tries to kill you post-coitus because her dark god told her so, but you can easily persuade her not to.
The do part is real? And the others are watching? I saw no sleeping tents in the camp.
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There's still also the first shortstack romance in the form of Helia, but we know frick all about her right now, since she's been redone completely at least once, from a gnomish druid to a halfling bard.
Shouldn't short women bowdown to larger males?
Will Swen have the balls to put SFM halfling porn in the game? We'll find out in a month.
It's kind of like a mix of Kineticist (like the other anon said) and Witch with more ability-based patrons and with CHA as your casting stat.
>Kind of unrelated with the thread, but can some kind anon enlighten me on Shadowheart's and Minthara's romances (since Lae'zel is ugly as sin plus I haven't heard anything good about hers)?
Shadowheart is currently only romanceable on the good route, you drink some wine with her and share a chaste kiss, it doesn't go further than that.
MIntharra is only currently only romanceable on the evil route, after you slaughter some druids and refugees, she proposes sex to celebrate. She doms you, unless you pass an intimidation check so you can dom her. She then tries to kill you post-coitus because her dark god told her so, but you can easily persuade her not to.
Poor options in number do far. I hope they either introduce more, or crank up the quality and depth of the existing ones. Interesting that it doesn't have a Human one yet.
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There's still also the first shortstack romance in the form of Helia, but we know frick all about her right now, since she's been redone completely at least once, from a gnomish druid to a halfling bard.
>Halfling bard
So a romanceable Linzi from KM? Damn. Will they be bold enough to go with that? For moronic reasons, you don't see female Halfling or Dwarf romances in vrpgs.
Mechanic-wise, the Kineticist gains a cantrip-like ranged touch attack (although it's like elemental energy instead of mystical/arcane one -think ATLA's benders) at first level that he can customize and empower as the levels progress. He can even exert himself to empower his blasts by taking CON damage. He is purely a striker.
Thematic/Flavor-wise though he is very different to the Warlock, and that's where the Witch and her patrons come (though, again, not as in-depth as the lock's).
So as you can see, not quite there in both mechanics and flavor
Yeah, I see where you are coming from.
Calling kinetic blast a cantrip is... Unsettling.
Curious how much stuff larian will add to the subclasses. They kinda have to, as the levels before 14 don't do that much for most subclasses. So far they did a (somewhat) good job.
>Kind of unrelated with the thread, but can some kind anon enlighten me on Shadowheart's and Minthara's romances (since Lae'zel is ugly as sin plus I haven't heard anything good about hers)?
Shadowheart is currently only romanceable on the good route, you drink some wine with her and share a chaste kiss, it doesn't go further than that.
MIntharra is only currently only romanceable on the evil route, after you slaughter some druids and refugees, she proposes sex to celebrate. She doms you, unless you pass an intimidation check so you can dom her. She then tries to kill you post-coitus because her dark god told her so, but you can easily persuade her not to.
I'm opting for Warlock for my 1st time, probably GOO or maybe Fiend. It's the only class I miss, when playing the Pathfinder vidyas.
Kind of unrelated with the thread, but can some kind anon enlighten me on Shadowheart's and Minthara's romances (since Lae'zel is ugly as sin plus I haven't heard anything good about hers)?
There's still also the first shortstack romance in the form of Helia, but we know frick all about her right now, since she's been redone completely at least once, from a gnomish druid to a halfling bard.
Bc it's way to op. Easily solo on hard in either game of the two.
Had a custom team in wotr and the kineticist was doing the job as the others usually did 0 damage or buff the kineticist, while he went with 300+ damage per round.
Bc it's way to op. Easily solo on hard in either game of the two.
Had a custom team in wotr and the kineticist was doing the job as the others usually did 0 damage or buff the kineticist, while he went with 300+ damage per round.
True, and that's why I personally prefer the Warlock more than the Kineticist. Because the former has also the flavor and tools to spice things up.
Sure you can do various shenanigans with the Kineticist as well and sure each of the four elements is distinct in where it focuses and beautifully designed but, unless I'm playing with an ATLA-based character/team/campaign, the Warlock appeals to me a bit more.
Maybe it's because I'm playing more PF than DnD and I miss it. Or maybe its cause it's such an iconic and famous class at this point across nerddom.
I would be surprised it there wasn't any, since it's probably the easiest type of content to add: >Limited completely to 1 on 1 interactions between you and the patron. >Location doesn't matter, so it's very easy to set up triggers for such interactions. >Very limited animations required, since it's basically a dialogue between two participants.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sure, but we will likely never see the patron.
11 months ago
Anonymous
If you get to see the Patron, you may simply dislike that no matter what. For example if you choose Fiend you will always get a specific Devil (let's say an Erinyes because why not, it makes coomers happy) and it may not coincide with the Patron you wanted to get ("no, my Fiend patron is actually a Balor!").
If you don't get to see it and it remains mysterious, you'll have people complaining about being half-assed compared to the oc donut steel companion of yours.
I personally would love if all the Patrons contact you with esoteric dreams of dubious meaning.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Valid points from either perspective.
I don't see black boxed text ever happen in bg3.
Why not? >Zariel, or one of her servants, for the Fiend (since she's already heavily involved in the story) >Some entity related to the Absolute for the OOG >A Fey creture for the Archfey, like a coomer nymph
Easy peasy.
As above.
I'm gonna make a goodie-two shoes young male human paladin and romance Karlach. And he VILL make her happy.
The only good origin so far
That's what a tiefling veteran of the Blood War had been waiting for. A normal, regular, young human paladin to settle down with.
Apparently the tad pole messed with the origins. They were all veterans but got resetted.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Why not? >Zariel, or one of her servants, for the Fiend (since she's already heavily involved in the story) >Some entity related to the Absolute for the OOG >A Fey creture for the Archfey, like a coomer nymph
Just out of curiosity I wanna ask off-topic, what's the best game for one to play a warlock? Both mechanically and flavor-wise. Is it WoW? I never got around to it because it looked to be in a sorry state.
Anyway, think I might go Archfey because I don't wanna copy Wyll and GOO seems redundant. Will roleplay that I took a pact with a dark Archfey so that the aesthetic isn't totally prancing fairies Feywild
>I don't wanna copy Wyll
This one depends on two factors: >Do we get an in-game patron? >Do we have interactions with it?
If both are "yes", then it's hardly copying, especially since you can combine Fiend Warlock with playing a Zariel Tiefling, who is almost guaranteed to have the most reactivity out of all Tieflings.
Actually, gunpowder and other technologies haven't spread out due to the activities of the Harpers. I really regret that the general view on them is a generally benign organization, whilst in reality they're much, much more grey in their activities.
Whoa, didn't know. Always hated them since bg2.
Where to read more about that?
Dont the artificers use guns?
>Imoen
Will she call us a queer fellow?
I hope so. Minsc iwll likely be bad, esp as mercer/critical role is just plain bad with their burger accent... And honestly their burger approach to everything. Finesse, nuance, settled approach? Nah, big battle axe.
I'm more interested in that response from Swen that the non-Origin party members can instead be our enemies/adverseries. We already know this is the case for Minathra, but he also confirmed it for Minsc and Jaheira.
Is this what's going on with Halsin? Will he be exclusive to Jaheira through some story choices shenanigans?
If yes, it means there's a lot more party members that haven't been revealed.
Nah, that I don't believe. We have like 8 origins and those four. Already double what they planned/announced 3y ago.
>All those different Dragonborn you can be >No Wild elves
reeeeeeeee, I know they aren't in 5e, but I want more elves, I also want them to differentiate between Sun elves and Moon elves
More subclasses would be great. Dragonborn will only have different colours. Don't believe they have 10 models for them.
I will do a Dwarf War Cleric in memory of my Dwarf Fighter/Cleric Bhaalspawn from older Baldur Gates. I would assume, Strength, Wisdom and Constitution are my main stats correct? BTW I do hope this game will allow you to choose who talks because I hear in EA at least you can't do that and it chooses who talks by which character is the closest which was infuriating in DOS2.
I also plan on doing maybe Dragonborn GOOlock, but I am still unsure about that. I want to do it because being Dragonborn with connection to some eldritch diety sounds fun. But I hear this class of Warlock is objectively the worst for it. I want to actually know how to build this character so it doesn't suck.
>Level 1 veteran of the blood war is still fricking absurd to me.
Why? Even back in the Planescape setting the canon fodder was comprised of low-level demons/devils and hired mercenaries.
>Level 1 veteran of the blood war is still fricking absurd to me.
Why? Even back in the Planescape setting the canon fodder was comprised of low-level demons/devils and hired mercenaries.
>Level 1 veteran of the blood war is still fricking absurd to me.
She's got her levels drained a couple of editions ago and never recovered since.
Also "Level 1" in 5th Edition is completely different from "Level 1" in 2nd Edition.
>Level 1 Mage in 2nd Edition >4 Hit Points >A Single Spell
>Level 1 Mage in 5th Edition >On average 10 Hit Points >Unlimited cantrips, which also hit harder than any spell the Mage may have >And 2 casts of Level 1 Spells, which are also more powerful than any spell the Mage may have
white-man-hating Larian has fallen to using the same tactics as pozcat >forget about the setting, characters, story, etc. >just talk about spec autism!
Question. I know that levels and stats mean something special right? Like a level 1 wizard is a trained wizard and 10 int is normal. So what's a level 10 like the cap? What's 18 int mean?
Then it'd probably goes something like this:
18 INT: Very smart.
20 INT: VERY very smart, like... genius smart. Real smart, you know.
Not very relevant in the context of a video game though. You don't have to roleplay being below or above average intelligence.
Normal of course, because reloading after having my ass kicked is probably going to be frustrating pretty quickly, and the whole hand-holding of Story Mode is pretty insulting.
Normal, as I don't want their custom rules, like fighter using fireball scroll etc.
>ranger/druid multiclass
sneed it or chuck it?
Subclasses, stats? Beast master moon could be interesting.
Why would you want it changed? She is the evil route, Shadowheart is the one you can corrupt/uncorrupt from Shar. Changing Minthara so you can dick her as a good guy seems stupid.
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You have to give up the location of the druid grove, and also participate on the goblin side killing all the tieflings/druids there.
Siding with goblins needs a lot of mental gymnastics. Sure, if you go evil/illithid, it's valid.
Gives advantage in dialog, which is always good. The problem is, although it is quite easy to deal with, is they will accuse you of magically charming you. Same for using the Friends cantrip.
Do they attack directly after accusation?
If Gloomstalker is tabletop accurate and they don't change haste a Gloomstalker fighter can attack 9 times without even using bonus actions
Curious. Gloomstalkter/thief is then like 14 times?
>Do they attack directly after accusation?
I think there is a way to bribe them or persuade them it didn't happen. You can also distance yourself and after some time they will just go back to normal.
>can attack 9 times
huh?
Haste in BG3 gives full actions with no rules. It usually should go >Level 5 Fighter, hasted >Attack, attack a second time from Extra Attack >attack a third time because of Haste limits you to one extra attack
It is >Attack, attack a second time from Extra Attack >attack a third time, and then a fourth time because its a full real action from haste
You can also cast two spells in one turn, which is usually impossible. So yeah, they let you go wild a bit
>Create Undead
do i have to be a Necromancer to use this? i wanted to try Eldritch Knight for the first time ever but summoning skeletons is just too good
Does "Charm" spell have any good non combat uses? I havent played the early access yet but im thinking about Necromancy/Enhancement for my first character
Gives advantage in dialog, which is always good. The problem is, although it is quite easy to deal with, is they will accuse you of magically charming you. Same for using the Friends cantrip.
30 fricking days. Ok i'm uninstalling and going to try and stay out of threads, popping in just to check for news, fingers crossed i am fresh for the release. I have my class and race chosen. >Shield Dwarf >10 DEX for heavy armor only >Fighter Two-Weapon Fighting Style >Battle Master >lvl 4 feat DUAL WIELDER(battle axe in each hand)
See you 72 hours before release day lads!
You sure you don't want to have 17 Str & 17 Con and bump both to 18 at level 4 instead?
Dual Wielder is neat but more Strength means +1 damage and +1 accuracy instead of DW's +1 average damage and +1 armor. Also the Con boost helps. Plus you can already use handaxes, anyway.
In the end it doesn't matter, I guess. You'll have both 20 Str and Dual Wielder by level 8.
You sure you don't want to have 17 Str & 17 Con and bump both to 18 at level 4 instead?
Dual Wielder is neat but more Strength means +1 damage and +1 accuracy instead of DW's +1 average damage and +1 armor. Also the Con boost helps. Plus you can already use handaxes, anyway.
In the end it doesn't matter, I guess. You'll have both 20 Str and Dual Wielder by level 8.
BTW would Dwarf War Cleric with Dual Wield be good? I was thinking of Dual wielding flails or warhammers.
Only if you get feats and fighting style. No flails so far. Weapon choice should be martial and picked with regard to modals of given weapon. Secondary weapon can be any.
The motivation for going to to the goblin camp in the first place is to find Halsin, who you are told might be able to help you, and by the time you find out he can't help you've already chosen a side. The script could do a better job of tempting your character into performing evil acts by explicitly promising you things and actually delivering, but it doesn't. As it stands you're simply told what to do but they don't properly motivate you to do it, you must simply obey. The way things are currently set up only really works for Drow characters.
So if I buy BG3 the day before early full access begins, do I get that? Something about how you have access to the "full" act 1 3 days before everyone else does?
Just setting the record straight for all of you EA chuds who cannot stop talking about your 3-day advance.
You are nothing more than lowborn soldiers sent on the frontline to die and soften the enemy's morale, while noble knights such as I observe the battlefield from a safe distance and swoop in when it's become clear the battle needs a hero to save the day.
So enjoy your "privilege" to beta-test the game for me for any last minute patch-up while I take a relaxing nap. I'll see you on Aug 3, peasants.
1. It's too fricking hot where I live, so I don't want to spoil the experience. I'll wait a month so it gets cooler.
2. It's almost guaranteed there will be some intensive initial patching.
Glyph of warding is the most broken spell in the game is sleeps all enemies in a large radius for 2 turns
allowing you set up and to auto crit them and it doesn't even use concentration
Not officially, but informally that doesn't stop most players from having one in mind when they customize a character. And obviously not the most boring LG Paladin archetype player.
If anything, it's the Backgrounds/Inspirations combination which encourage you to play as a certain type of character. Class reactivity comes in second, with the exception of Clerics.
I can already imagine the kwetching from people who played the EA when it turns out Larian reduced the available good by 2/3 in order to stop rest spamming.
They've already confirmed they made it artificially abundant.
I also hope there'll be more story/quest penalties for resting too much than what is already present.
I want to start as a bard so I can pick out all the skills and proficiencies I want, then take two levels of warlock for eldritch blast+agonizing blast+darkvision, then back to bard for the rest of the game. I don't know if this is going to be screwing myself but I feel like on normal difficulty it probably won't matter. Am I making a mistake?
Well it'll meant hat you won't have access to level 6 spells that you get at level 11 and you miss the Ability Score Improvement/Feat at level 12. But if they're not that interesting to you then you're fine.
Frankly I don't think Bard's level 6 spells are that great compared to what they can already cast. Not like Wizards and such.
I am completely uninitiated so I don't fully understand what sixth level spells a bard would be missing out on, I was just thinking since I want to stack a ton of charisma anyways I might as well take the eldritch blast fun button and be able to pick human and still have darkvision.
> and you miss the Ability Score Improvement/Feat at level 12.
Considering this also happens to be the level cap, doesn't this encourage dipping in the first place?
Yeah, I saw that. Still possible to make fun/broken/flavour builds. However it's designed for people not to, and it shows.
IMHO subclasses are the worst progression system.
Apparently you gain advantage for checks, but if you return, they are mad. You can bribe them or wait 1-2 level ups and they forget the accident. Very much like in real life.
>What exactly happens in-game when you use "Friends" on someone?
You get advantage on charisma checks on them but lose reputation when the spell ends because they know you Friended them.
QRD on reputation?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Dunno. All I've noticed it affecting is the prices when bartering.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Qrd == quick run down?
And no, I didn't double post. It was post almost simultaneously.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Ah, got it.
Reputation is until now the exact same like in dos2. That's why you see streamers gifting 100 items to the mighty lich who also opens shop in your camp (larian...) to bump rep to 100, so they get triple payment for every item they sell after donations. Curious, if they will change it. Doubt it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not sure - they said they intentionally "eased up" on certain mechanics for the purpose of the beta testing - they specifically mentioned the over-abundance of food as an example.
So maybe being able to manipulate reputations is another one?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sure. We will see. They did have all the time in the world, and like quintuple budget than initially planned, but I'm still certain ending will be shite. Tav is Hebrew for ve'tahv, which roughly translates to omega.
They also said we will get a lot of good origins and lvl 10 will be cap. We will see in few days on the final pfh.
>What exactly happens in-game when you use "Friends" on someone?
You get advantage on charisma checks on them but lose reputation when the spell ends because they know you Friended them.
Why not 6 sword bard rest lock? You won't miss asi and will have better saves than warlock and best skills possible. Also an extra attack. You will loose spell progression though, worth it IMHO.
So I would just be playing swords bard to 6 and then taking levels in warlock from 7 onward? As a swords bard would I be favoring eldritch blast less than regular attacks?
Yes, to get the extra attack ASAP and start with bard as he has the better saves, max charisma. Eldritch blast is an cantrip, meaning you use it if you don't have anything better.
If I went full warlock instead would Eldritch Blast still be a button to press when I don't have anything better? Was kind of hoping for it to be my primary weapon.
Do we have a final spell list? The one shared few days ago is so limited. That can't be everything and we are still missing core spells like shields. Whole builds depend on them.
I hope for new weapon types, likely not going to happen.
Short races are mechanically the best.
If you go for one playthrough, go human. If you make multiple, why not try what the game offers? Dragonborn gets a somewhat strong breath weapon. With larians surface fetish you can combo away. One of the many reasons to go full custom party.
Pretty sure there's one lone reactivity check for if you're a short race. You stick your hand in a hard to reach hole.
Wonder if there's gonna be more in full release short race specific checks in sex scenes....
But they're short. Nobody wants to be short. Not even short people. Especially short people.
I'll play an ek/goo on release, likely underdark gnome. I don't want to be a underground abomination in real life, nor a hobbit. However I don't have a problem playing a game as one.
Do you understand the difference?
I guess you're right. If you're going to be making a Wizard unless you specifically wnat to roleplay another race or want a combat build the logical choice is Forest Gnome.
Idk, there are plenty of good choices. Gnomes are great wizards though.
Short races are mechanically the best.
If you go for one playthrough, go human. If you make multiple, why not try what the game offers? Dragonborn gets a somewhat strong breath weapon. With larians surface fetish you can combo away. One of the many reasons to go full custom party.
Pretty sure there's one lone reactivity check for if you're a short race. You stick your hand in a hard to reach hole.
Wonder if there's gonna be more in full release short race specific checks in sex scenes....
If you're going to be playing a traditional Wizard you might as well make it a Forest Gnome. >+1 DEX >+2 INT >free Speak With Animals >Darkvision >Gnome Cunning(advantage on Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma Saving Throws)
Gnomes are fantastic wizards. Dwarf wizard has medium armor for free. Halfling advantage for saving throws.
A lot. There is a literal Druid Grove(obviously filled with animals) right after the tutorial to start you going places. There are also animals spread around in the wilderness. There will probably be less animals in the city of Baldur's Gate.
I guess you're right. If you're going to be making a Wizard unless you specifically wnat to roleplay another race or want a combat build the logical choice is Forest Gnome.
If you're going to be playing a traditional Wizard you might as well make it a Forest Gnome. >+1 DEX >+2 INT >free Speak With Animals >Darkvision >Gnome Cunning(advantage on Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma Saving Throws)
I wouldnt' count on it, especially spells that aren't simple damage dealers. Remember, if they'd want to retroactively add any utility/environmental/speech-related - generally more complex spells, they'd have to go back and re-adjust the entire game towards those spells. So I don't think it'll happen.
The same with adding any additional races, subraces, domains, classes - anything that has in-game, in-dialogue reactivity. Too many moving parts.
I think that Larian isn't bullshitting when they stated that no DLC/content patches will come out, and the game will be complete on release.
No, unfortunately not, but I've heard that instead of the EA version of act 1, we'll be getting the full release version of act 1. The full game releases on August 3rd
>masc
Short for masculine, masc is a cultural term used by LGBTQ+ people to denote masculine appearance or mannerisms in queer people. It is not exactly the same as masculinity (See: femme vs. femininity).
All bodies can be masc, masc people can use all pronouns. To be masc doesn't necessarily mean you want to be like a cisgender heterosexual man. Most often masc culture is defined by queer masculine people- especially transmasc (mas transgender and gender nonconforming) people. Like masculinity, masc is not defined by cisgender or heterosexual men and being masc doesn't automatically mean you practice "toxic masculinity" or hate femininity.
There is some complex overlap between butch lesbian and transmasc culture.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>What is it with them?
Basically some think tanks figured out many years ago that if you can get children to be constantly spinning in place and depressed about their sexual identity, while others focus on attacking them, that you don't have to worry about any them organizing themselves in any real fashion.
11 months ago
Anonymous
While this is likely true, I never found any papers that explicitly advocate that. I did find some that talk their way around it and can be read either way.
11 months ago
Anonymous
While this is likely true, I never found any papers that explicitly advocate that. I did find some that talk their way around it and can be read either way.
Add to that Hormone-Drugs are really cheap to make and are essentially a byproduct of another drug.
You have now lots and lots of cheap meds that you can sell for premium all you have to do is create a customerbase, so you spent your drugmoney (the money pharma corps do is fricking ridiculous) and spent a few billions on marketing and voila, you have created the transgender lifestyle.
The Pharma lobby already figured out in the 70s that its way more profitable to sell meds to the healthy than the sick.
But wait, Trans-Tech isn't a budding industry merely for Pharma, hospitals can profit from it too. No you can get healthy patients to frick their bodies up so hard that they will need more meds to just keep going AND hospital-stay for genderops.
Its like printing money!
11 months ago
Anonymous
>gay tolerance is NOT a slippery slope
Heh
11 months ago
Anonymous
Based capitalists. Stupid people that chop their dick's off on a whim deserve nothing but suffering
11 months ago
Anonymous
Children deserve protection from society and humanity is about uplifting ourselves over generations. This is a death cult mentality you have, also a great tool of control.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Children deserve protection from society
Yeah just don't live in a place where they'll kidnap your kid and cut his dick off. This isn't that hard
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, you absolutely have to create a financial interest in any social engineering technique you want to enact, that's how it becomes self-perpetuating and untraceable.
If you kill someone, and want to use Speak with Dead, they won't speak with their killer. So you can disguise yourself to do it. You can also just get all the race-specific stuff like interacting with Tieflings in the grove, or Drow into the goblin camp and grymforge
If you kill someone, and want to use Speak with Dead, they won't speak with their killer. So you can disguise yourself to do it. You can also just get all the race-specific stuff like interacting with Tieflings in the grove, or Drow into the goblin camp and grymforge
Eh... seems like a huge waste of a spell slot, then.
I pirated the EA last fall and had a pretty good time. Think I'll do a half high-elf fighter build. Just want to turn off my brain and hit things with a big sword. I'm probably going to go for the charlatan background since I also like to persuade and deceive
>masc
Short for masculine, masc is a cultural term used by LGBTQ+ people to denote masculine appearance or mannerisms in queer people. It is not exactly the same as masculinity (See: femme vs. femininity).
All bodies can be masc, masc people can use all pronouns. To be masc doesn't necessarily mean you want to be like a cisgender heterosexual man. Most often masc culture is defined by queer masculine people- especially transmasc (mas transgender and gender nonconforming) people. Like masculinity, masc is not defined by cisgender or heterosexual men and being masc doesn't automatically mean you practice "toxic masculinity" or hate femininity.
There is some complex overlap between butch lesbian and transmasc culture.
Disgusting.
What is it with them? Afraid to speak up and to unreflected to question anything corporations spoonfeed them. No wonder people snap and start shooting into crowds.
[...]
Add to that Hormone-Drugs are really cheap to make and are essentially a byproduct of another drug.
You have now lots and lots of cheap meds that you can sell for premium all you have to do is create a customerbase, so you spent your drugmoney (the money pharma corps do is fricking ridiculous) and spent a few billions on marketing and voila, you have created the transgender lifestyle.
The Pharma lobby already figured out in the 70s that its way more profitable to sell meds to the healthy than the sick.
But wait, Trans-Tech isn't a budding industry merely for Pharma, hospitals can profit from it too. No you can get healthy patients to frick their bodies up so hard that they will need more meds to just keep going AND hospital-stay for genderops.
Its like printing money!
I disagree. It wasn't created by them, but boy, did they support it big league at some point. Billions of tax money to fuel it.
Byproduct of which drug?
Right! Haven't even thought of selling hormones, sure, keep the gdp rising.
It's totally a lifestyle. Found that out years ago by myself.
It's literally printing money and then you can apply rainbow tax to fair jeans.
Based capitalists. Stupid people that chop their dick's off on a whim deserve nothing but suffering
Only to prove they aren't insane! Check your privilege.
Now listen here, Cryptofascist!
Mega-Corps controlling our speech is all in the great spirit of the great socialist ur-fathers Marx & Engels
Huehue
Oh, you misunderstood. They've already said the full release will have around 600 spells. I meant that, after that, they won't be adding anything new.
Maybe, who cares? Already planning triple class builds.
>I have tried to use Disguise Self without much success ever since gaining my wizard powers. This spell sucks.
Learn where it would be appropriate to use it. Learn to sneak so you can scout ahead. Once you know what you're going to be encountering, choose a disguise that will be beneficial.
How faithful is this game to 5e?
I haven't played any tabletop systems since 3.5e DND and Pathfinder 1/2 so immediately I'm trying to figure out if there are any noob traps
>How faithful is this game to 5e?
It is like 75 percent accurate to 5e.
They tweaked the classes, for the better, mostly. So I wouldn't rely on any subclass break down or anything indepth.
>noob traps
5e doesn't really have noob traps at the level of of/3.5. Well, it sort of does, but no where near that level, and Larian has buffed the lowest denominator.
Anons, is it true that, when creating a character and choosing one of the pre-made Origins, you DON'T create the "who do you dream of" character?
Because if that's the case, doesn't this outright confirm what the "leaker" claimed, that it's not a manifestation of the tadpole, but the essence of Bhaal?
Doesn't this contradict the usage of illithid wisdom triggering lover scenes? Also the brain things whisper in girly voices and illithid are loved when they overcome you. Or bhaal is the father of illithid and vlaakith the mother and lae'zel is vlaakith before illithid lich transformation.
Who knows
I doubt bhaal goes this way
Then again larian lobotomy writing is capable of anything
Anons, is it true that, when creating a character and choosing one of the pre-made Origins, you DON'T create the "who do you dream of" character?
Because if that's the case, doesn't this outright confirm what the "leaker" claimed, that it's not a manifestation of the tadpole, but the essence of Bhaal?
Wait... people have a problem figuring this out? It's obvious if you think for 5 seconds - the dream lover is the manifestation of the "special" tadpole, who wants to enter symbiosis with you; whilst the urge towards violence, the bloodthirst you feel within the dream etc., is the essence of Bhaal. Both of those are antagonistic towards one another, making it all the more obvious?
It's also obvious why the illithid chose that particular group of people to implant with the experimental tadpoles - each of them have some "special" bloodline, either through connections to divinity, like Gale; a hellish pact, like Wyll; or being a descendant of dinivity, like the Bhaalspawn.
I remember something about the tadpole carriers being weapons. I think that's something you hear the 3 chosen of the Absolute mention when you see them in a vision.
I'm leaning barbarian to throw stuff around, shove people and all that. If variant human is there, then that, if not then maybe a half orc or dragonborn. Probably berserker for a subclass.
That seems like an interesting combo, but at which level would you do that? Getting Thief is a 3 level dip, same with berserker. To throw people strength is important too and you want rages. Extra bonus isn't better than an extra attack I think (but I haven't seen how they implemented it, played before level 5 was unlocked, and then a bit after but didn't get to level 5 before I decided to wait for the release). So let's say you're level 3 barbarian berserker, you can start going into rogue immediately, but that takes 3 levels and doesn't seem that great as opposed to going barb 5 for that ASI and extra attack. So what barb 5 then rogue 3 (or 4 for extra ASI)? Seems kinda late, and expertise is good, but sneak attack is wasted (unless they took off the limitations).
There is no good time. I've considered a long time on the best time to multiclass a Barbarogue for a tabletop game and it's at level 5, which is too bad. Getting extra attack is too important.
That said, Berserker Barbarians (at level 3) can make a bonus action attack while Raging so you're not as bad off if you multiclass earlier with them without as much of a drop but you'll still be weaker than other pure level 5 classes.
The level cap is 12 right? Maybe something late like barb 8/rogue 4 could work? I'd definitely go after level 5, but when exactly would depend how much I feel like I need the extra rage, charm resistance and initiative bonus. But to be honest in throwing/shoving focus, would getting one more bonus help much? Like how often will you beed to throw 4 people one round? Or is it just for the round when you activate the rage? Of course you can just attack people, but I think throwing them is funnier.
Yeah, start with thief 3, then full barb or barb then 3 thief for cartoon dialogue.
If you start as barb, immediately switch thief, then after 3lvl thief full barb. Takes a little until extra attack, but larian games are piss easy. Solod as a bard with literally no cheese.
Asi aren't as important as level in barb/rage. 18-20 Str is enough, put rest in dex and maybe 14 in con. Ac is key in this game, as you are constantly outnumbered/flanked.
Sneak attack is absolutely op, esp dual wield thief
[...]
Was disgusting
Normal people don't teleport
But I specifically want to throw people, not just stab them hard. Isn't throw range (and the ability to throw someone itself) dependant on strength? I want normal attacks more as a backup for when throwing isn't really an option.
Well then 3 barbarian to get Enraged Throw then 3 in Thief for the extra bonus action to do it twice since Enraged Throw is a bonus action.
The level cap is 12 right? Maybe something late like barb 8/rogue 4 could work? I'd definitely go after level 5, but when exactly would depend how much I feel like I need the extra rage, charm resistance and initiative bonus. But to be honest in throwing/shoving focus, would getting one more bonus help much? Like how often will you beed to throw 4 people one round? Or is it just for the round when you activate the rage? Of course you can just attack people, but I think throwing them is funnier.
Your 8 Barb and 4 Thief works fine for this.
11 months ago
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>Well then 3 barbarian to get Enraged Throw then 3 in Thief for the extra bonus action to do it twice since Enraged Throw is a bonus action.
Won't I get an extra throw faster if I go barb 5? Extra attack can also be used for extra throw, no? And ASI for strength to throw further.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sure. Sounds like the better option. Thief can wait.
Barbarian has what you need anyway and it's always safer to multiclass after level 5.
So? You can still do it throw around most things. Just pick a normal sized race. Like I said, max Str and dex. Str is your most important stat, ac is the most important variable.
No idea what your throwing fetish is, it's not very efficient. Maybe you saw too much promo material of larian.
Sure. Sounds like the better option. Thief can wait.
Barbarian has what you need anyway and it's always safer to multiclass after level 5.
Idk, bonus action is pretty much key. You usually start fights in a bad position.
Your choice. I'd finish thief ASAP. Back stab is also a live safer, as bosses have ridiculously high ac, action points and movement.
I bought bg3 now and finished ea almost. I must say the criticism isn't hard enough. The writing is sometimes km bad, they do push fetish propaganda and everything and everyone obeys to the silent main char.
Despite all this, astarion is by far the best companion and I don't like him one bit. All other comps are completely unbelievable appeasement sex dolls.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Just stabbing shit is boring, I like gimmicky combos. Throwing people sounds fun. Grappling also usually sucks in games and this gives at least a tiny bit of it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Go brawler. Idk I only used throw few times. Boring and Inefficient. Even throwing axes are underwhelming.
Multiclasses are all about gimmicks.
11 months ago
Anonymous
As in tavern brawler? Did they implement it in some funky way? Cause normally it's just pretty underwhelming.
11 months ago
Anonymous
In some games fists are absolutely op, but almost all games suck. Haven't checked it, but there's a talent for it.
Now that I finished ea I am certain act one will be more than double of ea. Underground is apparently the easy way, and creche and forest will likely be medium and hard. So we are likely to see level 8/10 after act 1 (including all content) good choice as I like to play geared up characters.
Larian home brew rules in regarding of balance is on point. I do expect more items though.
Also I will totally play fighter/mage/thief, like in a true bg game.
Sneak attack is absolutely op, esp dual wield thief
>and teleporting around
god I hated that. It made positioning feel arbitrary when you watch the opening of a fight as half the enemies jump or teleport.
Also it kinda just pissed me off that for some reason Warfare couldn't get it's teleport (Phoenix Dive) till you were off the island so you felt like a moron who couldn't teleport like a normal person.
Is there an unspoken agreement the worst opinions on this board must be attached to anime pictures? By the way, Shadowife and Bae'zel are miracles of the universe.
>people running defense for D:OS2 in the BG3 thread
Reminder that Larian received backlash so intense for trying to implement shitty Divinity combat at the start of the beta that they basically redid almost all aspects of it. Most CRPG fans don't like the normiecore "everything is covered in feces and fire and teleporting around" combat of that game.
>and teleporting around
god I hated that. It made positioning feel arbitrary when you watch the opening of a fight as half the enemies jump or teleport.
Also it kinda just pissed me off that for some reason Warfare couldn't get it's teleport (Phoenix Dive) till you were off the island so you felt like a moron who couldn't teleport like a normal person.
? What game do you play?!
Everyone constantly applauses everything I do. Like ten (drunk) people already begged me to have sex for them and weren't one bit disappointed I declined. "please come back anytime". ludo narrative doesn't go well with sandbox, eh swen?
Game is high polish, no question. Few bugs here and there, but honestly wotr today in worse condition.
It's a shame they have such subpar writing.
Also focusing on the absolute I expect nothing from the ending. IMHO the wrong choice to start immediately with the big bad guy, but larian favours this approach. Didn't work in dos2 either.
I pretty much helped everyone. The tieflings I killed, bc I didn't know how to get leazel or what's her name and the bandits before withers for the xp. I helped halsin aso. The only time I saw the frog disapproving was when I talked to the healer of the druids for a cure. Maybe it's different for bard, as the class tag seems pretty op in dialogues.
Gonna go Palabard.
College of swords/Oath of vengeance.
Smites for days. Skill monkey. +1 AC +2 dmg. Advantage for bosses and hunters mark. Later on should have
Will probably sword and board since that synergises best. But great weapon master is almost too good to pass up. Tbh though probably won't need the extra damage and kind of want to give shield master a try even though larian nerfed it by giving everyone free shoves.
Haven't decided on race. Tempted by Half-orc for the crits, but the cha you can only start off at 15.
Other options are half-wood-elf or zariel tiefling. Helf gets fleet of foot and better starting stats. Zariel gets two extra smites. The Cha is better also which pays off a bit too, but it isn't as needed on vengeance oath.
Unless variant human gets in. In which case it's a no-brainer.
Would love to play a monk, but even with the update they're still kind of shit.
Not discussing your troony fanfic
Not baldurs gate
Whatever bg is. In any case it's the closest we will get in the next 15y or so.
Theres no troony fur shit in my build, you sad kun.
Does BG3 even have trannies?
Is there even a single WRPG where you can play as a troony?
>Cyberpunk 2077
>Arcanum
Cyberpunk doesn't count since it has literally zero influence on the game.
Which monk is the most aesthetic in 5e?
I'm betting on elemental monk in bg3.
Monk could go well with cha classes and thief. Maybe barb, if rage aso is compatible.
Do you choose a deity when making a Cleric?
Yes. Only clerics do so (unfortunately).
I do hope they change it. Little faith though.
Which ones are available?
Idk haven't played ea, yet.
Maybe this helps:
https://baldursgate3.wiki.fextralife.com/Deities
Wait... you can play as a fricking CLERIC OF BHAAL?
Apparently, idk. The three certainly will play a key role and bhaal is revived and activated sarevok (a homeless drug addict) as cleric.
>activated sarevok (a homeless drug addict) as cleric
That's from a non-canon Dungeon Master's Guild adventure module, anon.
Is that so?
Still pretty confident that sarevok will show up.
My bet is rather on Imoen. Coran is a given, since he's an influential noble within the city.
100% imoen. Hopefully not horribly voiced.
Pretty sure korgan and Jan are at least mentioned as well.
It's ridiculous how op they are. Wizard is no match for them. Bard of valor is buffer, fighter, full caster and has like all the skills in the world.
>korgan and Jan
When and where?
>Imoen
Will she call us a queer fellow?
I'm more interested in that response from Swen that the non-Origin party members can instead be our enemies/adverseries. We already know this is the case for Minathra, but he also confirmed it for Minsc and Jaheira.
Is this what's going on with Halsin? Will he be exclusive to Jaheira through some story choices shenanigans?
If yes, it means there's a lot more party members that haven't been revealed.
Cleric is likely the worst multiclass class. It's actually all classes in one. Cleric is actually a one man party in 5e.
Cleric and Bard are both ridiculously versatile.
Cleric is like the most common multiclass dip wtf are you talking about
Why? Do the subclasses come early and are front loaded?
How wise, oh omnipresent authority figure.
In 5e yeah. Full casters get heavier armor and shield proficiency with only a 1 level dip and some of the most powerful auras in the game.
I personally am not a fan of multiclassing. Not my thing.
Second that, I'm heavy into actually roleplaying a character, so I'd rather create one that makes sense, story-wise.
Also, any words on the Hermit and Sailor backgrounds? That last one seems especially...odd. Are we going to get some boat action in the full game?
>Are we going to get some boat action
Maybe not in full but Baldur's Gate is a port city
You don't have to go pure single class if you want to roleplay a character. It's not hard to see how a monk could pick up some fighter skills or a nature cleric might become a druid.
The Hermit will be hilarious, since this indicates they'll probably add a ton of dialogue options/choices to the effect off:
>Leave me alone! And get off of my lawn!
Yeah, doubt you'll get heavy armor from a dip. You will have to start as cleric and then change the class.
We will see Friday. Maybe.
Yeah, there are vehicles in hell.
There are also multiclass combos that make sense flavour wise.
Exactly.
Why would you want it changed? She is the evil route, Shadowheart is the one you can corrupt/uncorrupt from Shar. Changing Minthara so you can dick her as a good guy seems stupid.
You have to give up the location of the druid grove, and also participate on the goblin side killing all the tieflings/druids there.
How will anyone even recruit minthara when the route to getting her is dumb as frick?
>bloodsplatter
oh god, it's dragon age all over again
>YOU DON'T UNDESTAND YOU MUST KILL THE INNOCENT PEOPLE
I will rather rape her until she become mindbroken and couldn't live without me.
It's just standard evil bullshit.
>I NEED THING
>YOU HELP ME GET THING
>I LIKE THAT YOU GOT THING FOR ME
> I FRICK YOU NOW
Sounds a lot like zoomer women now that I think about it.
What exactly is her route? Do you have to betray and kill everyone?
just because you want to play a moralgay character doesn't mean the choices you would not make are 'dumb as frick'
when the EA came out the first thing i did was the minthara route without even knowing or expecting i'd be able to bang her or that it would make her recruitable in the full game
Even evil characters wouldn't choose Minthara's route organically. Come off it.
What was your motivation?
Explain
It's not pragmatic. It's not intelligent. It's just evil for evil's sake and more likely to frick yourself over than not if you have a brain capable of calculation. It's a transparent "choose this for evil and breasts" route that only works through metagame motivations.
Agree.
Which makes it below cartoon writing.
>It's not pragmatic.
The druids can't help you. Minthara has a tadpole and is working with the Absolute, whoever they are. Why would a pragmatic character not at the very least briefly consider her route to be more likely to solve the tadpole issue? Why would a pragmatic character care about refugees and druids?
The motivation for going to to the goblin camp in the first place is to find Halsin, who you are told might be able to help you, and by the time you find out he can't help you've already chosen a side. The script could do a better job of tempting your character into performing evil acts by explicitly promising you things and actually delivering, but it doesn't. As it stands you're simply told what to do but they don't properly motivate you to do it, you must simply obey. The way things are currently set up only really works for Drow characters.
Ummm my drow femdommy mommy step on me mommyyyyy
Yes.
>What was your motivation?
the druids are evil and annoying and i don't care about tieflings + i wanted to see how much agency they gave the player
>for the lulz
Okay
evil paths are just as valid as good paths
i doubt it's more xp since you lose out on killing all the goblins
If all you care about is experience, you can just attack them whenever, but in terms of story the whole camp goes hostile after the celebration because The Absolute hates you for some reason.
even if you talk minthara into helping you? i don't recall killing all the goblins afterwards but maybe i just didn't return to the goblin camp
if you want to max xp then sure, do all the quests then kill everyone
I believe we will spend 30-40% of the game max level.
probably, or they'll do some weird xp scaling where the latter levels take forever
In DOS2 you got to half of the level cap by the end of ACT1. Levels slowed down a lot after that. Expect the same here
Level cap is 23. I finish act 1 with level 8/9. Just replayed it.
Tbh if you don't use tricks in the last fight, you need level 23, as the enemies have ridiculous stat/armor bloat.
Just finished reading the whole divinity timeline. Actually stroy is rather bad and Lucian and braxus constantly reviving is rather lame. For like 10y and the void always loosing big league against 1-4 humans/mortals. How they push malady as both protagonist and antagonist is beyond ridiculous.
Can you even get to 23 without cheating? I though the max was 21 with extreme metagaming, and they expected most people to get to 20.
Also I remembered finishing act 1 at 10. Maybe I'm misremembering
Also yeah they never really cared about Divinity lore until the second game. It was just a patchwork job
Arx has lots of exp. I am usually underleveled like 16/17 for whatever reason and when I did all in arx. Via guide I ended up With exactly 23.
Tried the end boss with 20, was oneshotted with top gear. Thank god I saved before purchasing, so. I did EVERYTHING in arx and then purchased new gear (was at 300 gold after that) and won the fight with main char standing with like 5 hp.
You have to do it in right order, for instance there are multiple ambushes, finish quests and kill the quest giver (if its a meanie) in arx etc. The game doesn't register the killing anyway in the ending slides. Even picked talk to animals, despite it being ultra dumb and did quests there. Some quests/exp are hidden behind persuasion checks.
Killing Lohse’s demon master was one of the most thrilling and challenging game memories I have. Took a while. In the last fight I used that metamorph ability that put everyone at mid health. Since it used all of its best abilities out the gate and I saved mine and just took damage, it totally changed the course of the fight. Fun time. What a b***h of a boss.
There are a lot of memorable fights in DOS 2.
SOVL
but
>console
I mean I just googled blackpits and picked an image. But if you wanna be a shit go for it I guess.
This was such a good moron filter.
I played it just last night, since I wanted to do a run to occupy time till BG3 lands.
Honestly it's just genuinely fun, as much fun as I remember it being. The fire and music makes the atmosphere tense but that just adds to how enjoyable it is. Sure the fight is difficult, but be smart and you can have a good time.
I love fights that filter people out. I love fights that make you think outside of the box.
Honestly first time I fricked her quest up. Dunno how I did that. Don't spoiler. Playing rn and lohse quest is on track.
Larian's OCs are just annoying as frick and always have been
Yeah, totally didn't like the concept, really.
Also linear progression in stats doesn't work, not in poe nor in dos nor oblivion. It's just idiotic.
Hope not. Would break pacing. Like wotr, here, last level for last fight. How dumb are you??!
I expect act 3 (hell) to be rather short.
Can't you kill goblins and druids?
Dos2 movement.
Yeah, your story is sad and touching, but I really want the exp, so... Die?
Moment*
What's with autocorrect lately
Why? Anything other than Human Male Fighter is the troony option. If you really want to LARP as Aragorn then Ranger is okay. And for you flaming homosexuals out there who are too queer and feminine for normal classes, vanilla sorcerer or wizard is an acceptable option. If see any of pick your special snowflake races and classes I will bash your into the ground. You've been warned.
Why so boring bro?
He's one of the local schizos who brings up trannies and gays in every thread.
No, I love bg3. My issue is only with you special snowflake trannies and genderfluid queers. All those flowery classes and races exist merely as flavor for the world. You're not supposed to actually pick them. All's I'm saying is that if we were playing BG3 together and I saw you pick one of those classes you'd wake up in a hospital. That's all.
Dunno, your Str 8 isn't really impressive, you lore bard.
You know the IP count isn't rising, you schizo samegay?
I'm only 3115101, you paranoid cretin.
It says one. Me and you are already two, you laughable existence.
4 pure white male champions, gotcha.
>Why? Anything other than Human Male Fighter is the troony option.
.....bait or schizophrenia? I can't tell anymore
You're male to female troony, aren't you?
>I can't tell anymore
Wow, you sound delusional. Take your meds.
Going with Monk for sure, hope they have good quarterstaffs
They actually do. I'm using a stave with my druid and it has a built in root spell.
I really hope we get better items. Dos had garbage items. Some unique were almost OK, rest gamey crap.
There are plenty good items in BG3.
Nothing iconic.
Sure, you have useful stuff and powerful stuff, but stool club and salami isn't exactly carsomyr, is it?
At least we don't have diablo 2 style loot in bg3.
Implying there's a difference in this case.
Indeed.
Go frick yourself, shillhomosexual.
so can you create a full party from scratch at some point or you do really have to use these Larian companions?
You can.
You always could.
Run 4 instances of the game (at low graphics if you need to), host a multiplayer session for them, save at the start, quit, load and you got a full party all under your control.
Or just have 4 friends help y- LOL just kidding
we all know nobody here has friends
It's fine. But has the same problem as the tabletop where you end up waiting 5 minutes+ for your turn to come around.
Don't know why everyone else has to spend so long thinking.
Dunno who you're playing with, but I'm sorry to hear they're so slow at thinking.
The group I DM for does their consideration during other players turns, so by the time theirs comes around they know what to do and do it. Combat is typically pretty snappy.
Apparently form the get go this time, unlike dos2 where you needed to complete act 1 before the slapped a nexus mod to the DE and falsely claimed they are generous.
>and falsely claimed they are generous.
I assume you have evidence and aren't talking out of your ass
Right anon?
Edit
Now that discarded companions don't die after act 1, merc team is the way to go, as origins will patiently wait at camp to text you with their cuck tales before your goyim ve'tahv goes back to sleep, oy vey.
I'm that idiot who sucks at thinking of builds and will refuse weird combinations out of principle, so single class Paladin or Cleric it is.
Good choice. Multiclassing delays growth in the main class so should be avoided without a plan. Paladins and Clerics don't get much benefit from Feats so you can confidently choose to simply increase your Strength or Wisdom respectively.
>Wood elf
>Ranger
Yep, its gaming time!
Has anyone tried all weapons? Tridents, pikes and maces any good? Is bludgeoning still the best damage type?
Tridents can now rush (attack with free move),cripple and bleed targets once each per short rest so at least they're better than Spears than can only rush.
Pikes rush, bleed and get to reroll damage once each per short rest. They're fine I guess. Still no Polearm Master so they're not as good as they could be.
Maces can daze but Morningstars can as well plus some chest smashing attack that I don't know what it does. Plus D8 (piercing) damage instead of D6. Or warhammers which are just a D8 mace. Maces are still just a weapon for clerics without martial weapon proficiency to use.
Damage type hardly matters. Bludgeoning is just the favorite because it's good against skeletons (which you fight at level 2) while the other damage types have very, very rare differences which don't come up in BG3.
>which don't come up in BG3
Doesn't really come up in 5e either unless you're using unofficial rule modification books. Guess that makes it pretty accurate.
Polearm master was confirmed on Friday along other feats. They only introduced 20 new spells in that update, hope more a on the way.
That's what I thought, they pretty much abandoned it. Skeletons shouldn't be worthy enemy anyway.
Your favourite weapon so far?
I don't have a screen ap to spoonfeed you bratty American, but I got that reply 2y ago on the larian forums. Goftbag like early magic mirror was originally a nexus mod. Others, too. Not sure if all bags were on nexus, majority was iirc.
Or do you mean custom team from the start? That was confirmed together with rolling stats. Back then custom tavs (lol, larian discovered israelites) ought to have some personality. I'm sure they scrapped that part though.
Damage types?
Other multiclasses:
Paladin goes with anything front loaded (fighter, monk) or full caster for tons of smites.
Others are usually using the same stat, like ranger druid or barb +fighter/rogue.
Gimping choices are barb and caster and mixed casters like druid cleric.
All in all most combos are mostly flav, some combos like thief + martial or pallock are broken.
very unbased ESL anon
More like typos...
>completely missing the point of two entire posts was just typos
>Your favourite weapon so far?
Just dual wielding a shortsword and a scimitar.
Two weapon fighting is better than other weapons before level five and just as good at level 5.
Once Polearm Master is in I'll probably use a Spear and Shield since the Duelist Fighting style add a flat +2 damage to all attacks including the extra bonus action attack. Making two D6+5 attacks plus an extra D4+5 attack and maybe another D6+5 attack if an enemy walks into range on their turn while also holding a shield is just super neato.
If they flub Polearm Master somehow then Crossbow Expert to get an extra attack with Hand Crossbows.
If they mess Crossbow Expert up as well then I don't know. Wait for mods, I guess.
Thief and dual hand crossbow is ridiculously op.
Wonder if they will nerf it.
Are there any mods you recommend?
Duelist works with shield in bg3?
Don't know. The description suggests it doesn't but online discussion says it does but I can't be bothered to make a character to find out. I'll just hope those online people are correct and stay correct.
When you start after release just pick human first to browse feats.
Looks like Variant Human won't be in so no bonus feat.
Though I'm sure people will make a mod for that, eventually. But I don't like modding new games because of all the patches potentially clashing with mods.
Ah damn, I forgot. There are two humans. Curious if they allowing rolling for stats and how they implement it. On the ps blog there's a tieflings with 17 dex on lvl1.
Pretty sure you can already manually assign stats. There isn't an in game roller AFAIK but you can roll it yourself easily.
Also keep in mind, anons, that both races and SUBRACES have reactivity in-game. For example, I can bet any money that Zariel Tiefling will have a ton of unique content, since she's a huge part of the storyline of the prequel adventure module and the Minsc comics.
>Also keep in mind, anons, that both races and SUBRACES have reactivity in-game.
No they dont.
>or example, I can bet any money that Zariel Tiefling will have a ton of unique content, since she's a huge part of the storyline of the prequel adventure module and the Minsc comics.
You having 5 extra lines in the game is not "reactivity" you moronic shill.
>No they dont.
Yes they do. Half-Drow, for example.
>you moronic shill
Why are you even here?
>To use this system they just spend 5 years fleshing out? Why would you make a 5e homebrew system for one game? You can reuse spells effects and shit but OS3 isn't going to use concentration, reaction system etc
They already confirmed a sequel.
>Yes they do.
No they dont and I already explained to you why.
>Why are you even here?
because youre a shill lying to people about shit that isnt in the game.
There is ''Story Mode'' for people that want varian human. I mean if you need a crutch to play the game you might as well play on easy LMAO!
>All those different Dragonborn you can be
>No Wild elves
reeeeeeeee, I know they aren't in 5e, but I want more elves, I also want them to differentiate between Sun elves and Moon elves
As a moon elf I don't mind. Moon elves are mechanically the same as sun elves and they have separate options for each so I'm happy.
>browse feats
Variant Humans don't exist, unless they just didn't advertise the race sheet. I honestly think it will be an option at launch, it will just be listed under Human to take the +1 to all or feat at start.
I used Cheat Engine to test, and yes 1H weapon+Shield still gives the +2 from dueling
Isn't it +3 to stats and feat vs +1 to all?
Cheat engine from nexus?
Its +1 to TWO different stats of choices, a skill you choose you become proficient in, and a feat. Its ridiculously better than +1 to all. I just Cheat Engine from, Cheat engine. Hell any mod would work as long as you can spawn/get in a 1H weapon and shield at the start and wack something. You could just use basket full of equipment, loot a spear and shield from it, and go hit an imp.
Two +1s and a Feat.
Though they made the Ability Score Increase that you get from leveling a Feat as well so they'll probably have to fenangle it so you can't get a +3 to one stat at level 1.
>at launch
Hate to break it to you, but Larian already confirmed in an interview this year the game will be feature complete - no additional DLCs/content patches are planned.
They have a sequel to make, after all.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/wu4x94/no_dlc_for_bg3/
Here's the proof. Couldn't be more straightforward.
>No, there are no DLC planned.
"planned" They are putting it all into launch then what comes after is in the air. The same post said level cap is 10.
1.And what makes you think that's not the level cap?
2. Larian has no incentive to churn out DLC. As stated above, they already said there'll be a sequel.
>And what makes you think that's not the level cap?
The showed off Otto's Irresistible Dance which you can't get till level 11.
because they literally said the cap is 12 like 3 days ago when they did the blog.
>no incentive
To use this system they just spend 5 years fleshing out? Why would you make a 5e homebrew system for one game? You can reuse spells effects and shit but OS3 isn't going to use concentration, reaction system etc
They will have to add new classes to bg4. Think about it.
They might release them on the go for bg3.
>They will have to add new classes to bg4.
They already have all 5th Edition classes except the Artificer. If anything, they'll add some new subclasses, and even that's iffy, since you'll be simply importing your save game.
>They already have all 5th Edition classes
All the 2014 5e classes. Next year WotC plans to release a revision of the system and unless they change their mind at the last second they're already making some hefty changes to a lot of classes in the playtest material.
Anon, they said outright "no DLCs". How much of a clear answer do you need? No "we're thinking about it" or "we're open to the idea". Just a plain NO.
And I applaud them for that. We've had 15 years of that "wait until all the content DLCs are out" bullshit. What was the last AAA RPG that came out feature complete? KOTOR?
Updates like DE aren't dlc. I'm ready to bet that we will get more content of one form or another on the road and likely for free.
Bg3 plebbit everyone is talking about it. The only actual research I do is multiclassing, hence the thread.
>Updates like DE aren't dlc. I'm ready to bet that we will get more content of one form or another on the road and likely for free.
What don't you get about "the game will be feature complete on release?" They're not going the Owlcat route of "release a half finished game, and then spend the next two years on DLCs, DEs, and content patches." That was the whole point of the long development cycle. They made it clear in multiple interviews - the game will be done on release.
You don't understand. Classes in BG3 are more than just what they can do in combat and what skills they have. They have reactivity to them, by npcs and companions, which isn't as easy to implement, as a class in a game like Kingmaker or Wrath. Implementing new classes to BG3 will take a lot of time, unless Larian decides to make them less immersive and reactive, which I doubt, since they have no reason to do.
I do understand. I don't believe there won't be any update until bg4. I can live fine with it, sure.
I don't think that will be the case. I can be wrong, sure.
My point was that they can't just port the classes from a BG4 (if they're even working on one), because it requires a lot of work on BG3. This work required is work away from BG4.
I won't claim the chance is zero though, because Swen is ultimately the one who decides and he hasn't really been dictated by money for his decisions.
Not all obvs. But if the bring 30 new subclasses, 2 or so come to bg3. Bg4 is likely I conception phase for a while now. Do you think wotc and 10c let sven decide after 6m sales in wa alone?
Also... which class? Only Artificer is left, and that would require probably another 2 years of development, since he'd have to have his own unique content + introducing mechanisms/technology as actual game assets/mechanics.
It seems Larian is performing an experiment - take a long development cycle, make a game feature complete, and see the results. Hopefully it'll sell like hotcakes, since I'm honestly sick and tired of waiting several years post release for a game to be 'done."
By the by, nobody pointed it out, but thanks to "Circle of the Land" Druids we know exactly which environments will be present in-game:
Arctic: Hold Person Icon.png Hold Person, Spike Growth Icon.png Spike Growth
Coast: Mirror Image Icon.png Mirror Image, Misty Step Icon.png Misty Step
Desert: Blur Icon.png Blur, Silence Icon.png Silence
Forest: Barkskin Icon.png Barkskin, Hold Person Icon.png Hold Person
Grassland: Invisibility Icon.png Invisibility, Pass Without Trace Icon.png Pass Without Trace
Mountain: Mirror Image Icon.png Mirror Image, Spike Growth Icon.png Spike Growth
Swamp: Melf Acid Arrow.png Melf's Acid Arrow, Darkness Icon.png Darkness
Underdark: Web Icon.png Web, Misty Step Icon.png Misty Step
The "arctic" one is especially interesting to me, since the region around Baldur's Gate doesn't have such environments - unless there's a change of seasons in-game, and we get an actual winter.
>nobody pointed it out, but thanks to "Circle of the Land" Druids we know exactly which environments will be present in-game
Nobody pointed it out because Circle of the Land doesn't need to be into an environment to select it. It's a neat flavorful detail and nothing more.
It's not like the Ranger's Natural Explorer feature (thankfully changed from the tabletop version into something useful), that feature could've actually given some solid hints about the type of terrains.
I would agree with you, if not for the existence of extremely specific environments like "Coastal". If this was just for flavour, you'd think we would get more exotic ones, like "Jungle".
So no, I think those are all in-game environments.
Subclasses then. IMHO there are way more classes in dnd, might be wrong though.
Rather this then day one edition.
Where did you find that? What follows if we travel in desert vs arctic?
What do you think of 6 ranger, 2 fighter, 4 monk?
Not in 5th Edition. BG3 has all the classes except Artificer.
>Where did you find that?
When you play a Druid of the Land, you choose a specialized environment connected to you.
Really? All the others are subclasses then? OK... Didn't know.
Ah, you played the ea?
I dunno reading any remotely recent news?
How faithful to the pnp is this game? Is gloomstalker / assassin a viable build still?
More faithful than previous games, less faithful than solasta.
Take that as you will.
We don't have the specifics before Friday, but it'll be likely among the very best multiclass es. Certainly to op for normal.
One thing that pissed me off about the beta was the weapons all doing the same damage :
- 1h small weapon does 1d4
- 1h medium 1d6/8
- 2h 1d10
It's not a big deal but this uniformity reeks of lazy, and its even worse considering its a quadruple A game.
This is a weakness of the 5th edition ruleset. They made the most mass marketable D&D edition ever and in the process, as always, removed anything remotely interesting from the game.
Ah, so it's a PnP thing of 5E ? i never played it as i stayed with 3.57/PF2nd for the most part.
I believe there are minor changes, like g. Axe 1d12 and g. Sword 2d6 aso. But yeah, damage output of weapons is a ridiculous.
You can keep crying about it or go browse some other threads. Really tired of hearing same people whine about other people who discuss about this game.
>You can keep crying about it or go browse some other threads
You can keep crying about it or go to reddit.
>Really tired of hearing same people whine about other people who discuss about this game
Reddit really loves BG3.
They also pay their jannies in hotpockets.
I don't post on v/termin and you only quoted me 4 times.
Are you the same shizo from above?
>you only quoted me 4 times
Yes we know you are a samegayging shill.
>top wiki is already fextralife
eeew, how the frick is that atrocious website always at the top of search engines
Let's see:
>Karlach - Barbarian
>Minsc - Ranger
>Jaheira - Druid
>Shadowheart - Cleric
>Astarion - Rogue
>Wyll - Warlock
>Gale - Wizard
>Lae'zel - Fighter
Maybe:
>Minthara - Paladin
>Halsin - Druid #2 (?)
So we're missing a bard, monk, sorcerer, and maybe a paladin if Minthara doesn't pan out.
Minthara is the bad drow domina, isn't she? How's she a paladin?
Halsin is confirmed and obvs druid and Friday we get a new origin. Dragonborn monk?
If the balance it like wotr by owlcucks I will switch hard story hard again. As encounter variety for these fricks means crystallizer demon ogres riding bisexual centipede tieflings made of vulcanic mithril.
>How's she a paladin?
They basically merged paladins and anti-paladins into one archetype - a holy warrior of a given faith, no matter its tenets.
>Halsin is confirmed and obvs druid
Jaheira is a confirmed companion, so I'm iffy on Halsin, since that would make Druid a class that has two companions - and the only class to do so. So either he's out, or else Larian is holding back a shit ton of companions.
Gay. Subclasses to. Pigeonhole builds a lot.
5e is cancer. Almost as thac0 is cancer.
Halsin is confirmed. Due to popularity and sven being a friendly paladin 2/eldritch knight 9.
Good to know. In rl such a staff is borderline useless with a big ass shield. Shield has no Str needed in bg3 so far, right?
You get 3 days before release the full version, but can't advance in act 2 and honestly, you won't anyway.
>Halsin is confirmed.
No, no he isn't. Point me to an actual source.
So why the frick would anyone play as Druid, seeing as you have TWO companions with that class?
To feel in good company.
Are you saying that you wouldn't play Fighter and make a Fighter only party if you had the option?
I'm heterosexual, so no.
>He doesn't make a single class themed party
I only do that. Crossbow gang, 2h pistol for all, natures band of blossoms, drow wizard party of 6 aso...
whos the other druid?
Halsin. Which makes me think there are other "non-Origin" companions in-game, since it's very unlike Larian to duplicate a single class.
Jaheira. Unless they make her a ranger, in which case what the frick do you do with Minsc.
You don't take everyone with you, you can take only 4. The others will stay in your camp.
>we know you want to romance jason isaacs
>like a steamy vampire and hunky druid
>ask us about THAT halsin scene
Every fricking time they reference romances it's gay shit. Disgusting.
See? Say thank you, spoon fed kun to sauce San.
Have you read
You have to answer questions first: heavy armour or dex? Magic cc or damage or buffs? Extra attack? 2 or DW?
Ek as it is know is only flavour, as shield, booming blade and everything else this bad subclass needs is not anmohnced/confirmed.
Clerics don't need multiclass, bards neither.
what would a damage oriented cleric look like?
I'd want to use my concentration on spirit weapon or spirit guardians I'm assuming?
could i do a str based cleric pick up Great weapon Master and use duplicity to give me advantage on attack rolls?
Im not really bothered by a dex or str build i just want to be able to fight in the frontlines or do cool shit in the backlines from time to time.
how about bard what would they do? I remember seeing them doing some hand crossbow type stuff but i never thought that looked too cool tbh.. maybe if im trying to be some type of han solo/indiana jones in dnd type thing.
is sword bard any good?
Sword bard is a machine. With 2 lvl in fighter barb you can dual wield anything into oblivion, and you are a full caster in medium/heavy armor.
Cleric has 100 builds, really.
You suggestion is viable.
Crossbow dual wield with 3 or 5 lvl if rogue is among the highest single target dps per attack.
I Diana Jones, ey? Then either bard or eldritch knight or multiclass either of them.
2hand* obviously I was referring to great weapons
>Sword bard is a machine. With 2 lvl in fighter barb you can dual wield anything into oblivion, and you are a full caster in medium/heavy armor.
Can you do a per level until level 5 atleast?
is it level 1 bard then 2 levels in fighter/barb and go back into bard?
You only need barb or fighter for proficiencies like armour, second wind aso, as sword gets the extra attack on lvl 6 and is a full caster. Max charisma with asi and put 13+ into str/con or dex is you are into finesse weapons.
thank you boss! looking forward to trying this out!
In 5e you can use quarterstaff with shield...?
Or can you switch via button from 1h to 2h?
The only difference are like 2 damage points? In that case shield is the clear winner.
If you can use shields and can't use anything better than a quarterstaff, then yes there's little reason to use one without the other.
At least in BG3 there are bunch of weapons you can use either as two handed or one handed. Quarterstaffa are one of those weapon types. I don't know how things are in the pen and paper but from what i understand there are differences between BG3 and the pen and paper on many occasions.
Idk either, IMHO it's the same in 5e. They bundled weapons into 1h, versatile (only with feat usable dual wield) and 2h weapons (only diablo 2 barbarian can dual wield those).
I mightve changed my mind and will likely triple class, if I can find 4 good combos.
The 5e quarterstaff doesn't have topple.
That's true. Was referring to versatile.
IMHO the modals are partly from. Dos, partly from. OneDnD.
Oh boy, are you a boomer or smth?
>bg3.wiki
Wasn't aware this was a thing until now. Yikes.
explain to me the whole Early Access to Act 1 thing, shills.
sucked some mean wieners for money, pirates bg3, kinda fun, would preorder.
What class and combo would give the most options for a gish type playstyle?
I want to do martial things like swing a greatsword and frick shit up. I also want to cast some spells like maybe create water to set up sick combos with ice or lightning with another arcane party member, or cast mirror image, shield, or invisibility for defense.
Is Eldritch knight worth using? the spell progression is so slow and never gets fireball.
Hexblade would have been perfect but it's not in.
War cleric? it does get extra attacks(with bonus action use) but that only seems a level 1-4 thing because at level 5+ i get cantrip progression which would be better and spirit weapon and spirit guardian.
is what I want undoable?
I'm thinking of going War Cleric. Not the best melee, but I'll get access to level 6 spells.
I want to fall asleep and not wake up until the release.
How are they going to make Jaheira and Halsin different?
Jaheira is multiclass.
This is a terrible idea in 5e, though
I know, but she's a Fighter/Druid in the game files either way. Unless they'll do a Karlach and switch her up on release.
If that is the case, I wouldn't mind if she got a unique Druid archetype, maybe a Harper?
Harpers arent exclusively druids you shitskin-mongrel.
The only issue with a Fighter/Druid multiclass is metal armor being forbidden for druids, but they can change the rules for BG3 if they want to.
>Wrong
Prove it then Black person.
Whats reactivity to your race-choice apart from 5 lines strawn through out the whole game?
Oh right, there isnt any.
Insane lunatic. Expect me to post 500 screenshot?
The game has more than quadruple the lines in English than bg2 has in all lamguageswith combined, and 3 has fewer companions than 2. 170h dialogue is quite large. Every other reaction is (sub) class or (sub) race. You insect, you crawling disgrace.
>Insane lunatic. Expect me to post 500 screenshot?
Its telling that you couldn't even post 5.
>It has a lot of writing that means it exists
Am I talking to a legitmate moron?
>You insect, you crawling disgrace.
You are the one who is making up shit out of nowhere, you absolute subhuman. You soulless degenerate who is oozing dishonesty to his fellow men.
In exchange for what actually? Do you at least get paid for making this shit up?
Bc I only watched playthrough here and there and in 1h there were easily 5. Do you really think I will look them up and post them here for like all races?
Clearly basis stats overwhelms you, done with your meme brain.
100%
>Clearly basis stats overwhelms you, done with your meme brain.
Black person, what is wrong with your brain? Do you have some sort of Zoomer-Autism where whenever someone states a mild criticism your knee-jerk reaction is to defend [PRODUCT] mindlessly?
I already told you, that references to your race sprinkled throughout the game here and there arent reacitivity.
You said its there. You go far to sperg out about how its there.
So provide some fricking examples or you're full of shit, you mindless fandrone.
>I already told you, that references to your race sprinkled throughout the game here and there arent reacitivity
Tpdau my reading comprehension isn't really worth mentioning.
I didn't register that.
In that case I agree. It's often like:
>oh, you are x, hence text for x...
And x is never mentioned again. It do be like that in most cases, sure. Main reason is that the cuckold team shits on our product experience and are living their wild west fetishes to the fullest.
why is being called a cuck an honour?
Indoctrinated
Here you go, cretin. From their own Steam page.
>The third Dwarf subrace will be playable at launch, adding a stoic and subterranean cousin to the dwarven family tree. We’ve also added a ton of reactivity around these characters, with over 200 new dialogue responses tailored to Duergar-kind.
And that's for one SUB-RACE. Now frick off.
I'm opting for Warlock for my 1st time, probably GOO or maybe Fiend. It's the only class I miss, when playing the Pathfinder vidyas.
Kind of unrelated with the thread, but can some kind anon enlighten me on Shadowheart's and Minthara's romances (since Lae'zel is ugly as sin plus I haven't heard anything good about hers)?
Isn't warlock defacto witch/hag?
You will be an unstoppable machine.
>Isn't warlock defacto witch/hag?
No, Warlock is more akin to Kineticist mechanically, only of a much different flavour when it comes to explaining their powers.
? Kineticist controls energy elements with his mind/body. Warlock and witch have a patron and are arcane casters. They both use established spells like magic missile, melfs, aso. Kineticist just go brrr without his attacks bearing names of actual arch mages.
Eldritch blast has eldritch in its name, indicating an occult power behind it's pact. Same as witch and patron in Pf.
The do part is real? And the others are watching? I saw no sleeping tents in the camp.
Shouldn't short women bowdown to larger males?
Already there.
It's kind of like a mix of Kineticist (like the other anon said) and Witch with more ability-based patrons and with CHA as your casting stat.
Poor options in number do far. I hope they either introduce more, or crank up the quality and depth of the existing ones. Interesting that it doesn't have a Human one yet.
>Halfling bard
So a romanceable Linzi from KM? Damn. Will they be bold enough to go with that? For moronic reasons, you don't see female Halfling or Dwarf romances in vrpgs.
I really don't see how warlock is a kineticist. His powers come solely from a being from another plane, right?
Yeah, no human is lame. Even dos had lohse and ifan.
Pretty sure that all the races can frick each oyher, which is disgusting.
Mechanic-wise, the Kineticist gains a cantrip-like ranged touch attack (although it's like elemental energy instead of mystical/arcane one -think ATLA's benders) at first level that he can customize and empower as the levels progress. He can even exert himself to empower his blasts by taking CON damage. He is purely a striker.
Thematic/Flavor-wise though he is very different to the Warlock, and that's where the Witch and her patrons come (though, again, not as in-depth as the lock's).
So as you can see, not quite there in both mechanics and flavor
Yeah, I see where you are coming from.
Calling kinetic blast a cantrip is... Unsettling.
Curious how much stuff larian will add to the subclasses. They kinda have to, as the levels before 14 don't do that much for most subclasses. So far they did a (somewhat) good job.
>Kind of unrelated with the thread, but can some kind anon enlighten me on Shadowheart's and Minthara's romances (since Lae'zel is ugly as sin plus I haven't heard anything good about hers)?
Shadowheart is currently only romanceable on the good route, you drink some wine with her and share a chaste kiss, it doesn't go further than that.
MIntharra is only currently only romanceable on the evil route, after you slaughter some druids and refugees, she proposes sex to celebrate. She doms you, unless you pass an intimidation check so you can dom her. She then tries to kill you post-coitus because her dark god told her so, but you can easily persuade her not to.
There's still also the first shortstack romance in the form of Helia, but we know frick all about her right now, since she's been redone completely at least once, from a gnomish druid to a halfling bard.
Will Swen have the balls to put SFM halfling porn in the game? We'll find out in a month.
i lost all interest in my kineticist playthrough a while ago, very boring class
Bc it's way to op. Easily solo on hard in either game of the two.
Had a custom team in wotr and the kineticist was doing the job as the others usually did 0 damage or buff the kineticist, while he went with 300+ damage per round.
True, and that's why I personally prefer the Warlock more than the Kineticist. Because the former has also the flavor and tools to spice things up.
Sure you can do various shenanigans with the Kineticist as well and sure each of the four elements is distinct in where it focuses and beautifully designed but, unless I'm playing with an ATLA-based character/team/campaign, the Warlock appeals to me a bit more.
Maybe it's because I'm playing more PF than DnD and I miss it. Or maybe its cause it's such an iconic and famous class at this point across nerddom.
The only good thing in all of of is primalist. Great class/concept.
Kineticist is by far the strongest, has little to no flavour to it.
Warlock/witch is great. It's actually stupid that Wyll gets a story for it's patron and the protag doesn't.
>It's actually stupid that Wyll gets a story for it's patron and the protag doesn't.
Because the game is about the writers OCs and not you.
>that Wyll gets a story for it's patron and the protag doesn't
Do we actually know this is the case? Larian outright said that a bunch of Act I content wasn't added. Maybe patron interactions were one of them?
We don't. However I doubt one class will have more content than their dear origin.
I would be surprised it there wasn't any, since it's probably the easiest type of content to add:
>Limited completely to 1 on 1 interactions between you and the patron.
>Location doesn't matter, so it's very easy to set up triggers for such interactions.
>Very limited animations required, since it's basically a dialogue between two participants.
Sure, but we will likely never see the patron.
If you get to see the Patron, you may simply dislike that no matter what. For example if you choose Fiend you will always get a specific Devil (let's say an Erinyes because why not, it makes coomers happy) and it may not coincide with the Patron you wanted to get ("no, my Fiend patron is actually a Balor!").
If you don't get to see it and it remains mysterious, you'll have people complaining about being half-assed compared to the oc donut steel companion of yours.
I personally would love if all the Patrons contact you with esoteric dreams of dubious meaning.
Valid points from either perspective.
I don't see black boxed text ever happen in bg3.
As above.
The only good origin so far
Apparently the tad pole messed with the origins. They were all veterans but got resetted.
Why not?
>Zariel, or one of her servants, for the Fiend (since she's already heavily involved in the story)
>Some entity related to the Absolute for the OOG
>A Fey creture for the Archfey, like a coomer nymph
Easy peasy.
They confirmed some patron content.
Sure x lines of reactivity.
Wonder how that will work in custom party. Initially they promised mercs will have content and personality, too.
I highly doubt that.
They REALLY want you to plas as their special snowflake OCs.
They do with origin sex slaves.
Look how plebbit drools over pixel lovers.
Just out of curiosity I wanna ask off-topic, what's the best game for one to play a warlock? Both mechanically and flavor-wise. Is it WoW? I never got around to it because it looked to be in a sorry state.
Anyway, think I might go Archfey because I don't wanna copy Wyll and GOO seems redundant. Will roleplay that I took a pact with a dark Archfey so that the aesthetic isn't totally prancing fairies Feywild
>I don't wanna copy Wyll
This one depends on two factors:
>Do we get an in-game patron?
>Do we have interactions with it?
If both are "yes", then it's hardly copying, especially since you can combine Fiend Warlock with playing a Zariel Tiefling, who is almost guaranteed to have the most reactivity out of all Tieflings.
have you tried not using deadly earth
i didn't even make it to unlocking it.
maybe i will go some kind of gun class? those in this game?
No, gunpowder is forbidden by the gods.
Unless the setting's God is Mercer.
these are all really bad portraits.
Spic
Not that anon, but are you confused or something? BG3 is really a game where you need custom portraits, nor one where posters are searching for some.
these homosexuals just like to post their awful ai generated art. insulting it and watching them lash out like they made it themselves is hilarious.
Top kek this Hispanic gets mad as frick that they are unable at understanding basic programs
Actually, gunpowder and other technologies haven't spread out due to the activities of the Harpers. I really regret that the general view on them is a generally benign organization, whilst in reality they're much, much more grey in their activities.
Whoa, didn't know. Always hated them since bg2.
Where to read more about that?
Dont the artificers use guns?
I hope so. Minsc iwll likely be bad, esp as mercer/critical role is just plain bad with their burger accent... And honestly their burger approach to everything. Finesse, nuance, settled approach? Nah, big battle axe.
Nah, that I don't believe. We have like 8 origins and those four. Already double what they planned/announced 3y ago.
More subclasses would be great. Dragonborn will only have different colours. Don't believe they have 10 models for them.
there is always the sword and shield build which i love.
Barbadin
Storm sorc sword bard
Best bae
Elf race going full lightning mage
cleric heal bawd
This one is a remake of the female mage from Dragon Age: Origins. And a shit one at that.
Yeah, it's kinda bizarre actually. Turned the white hair into a veil. But then there's no hair under the veil.
Assassin obviously
Assassin obviously
With gloom stalker or fighter or barb or sorceror?
I will do a Dwarf War Cleric in memory of my Dwarf Fighter/Cleric Bhaalspawn from older Baldur Gates. I would assume, Strength, Wisdom and Constitution are my main stats correct? BTW I do hope this game will allow you to choose who talks because I hear in EA at least you can't do that and it chooses who talks by which character is the closest which was infuriating in DOS2.
I also plan on doing maybe Dragonborn GOOlock, but I am still unsure about that. I want to do it because being Dragonborn with connection to some eldritch diety sounds fun. But I hear this class of Warlock is objectively the worst for it. I want to actually know how to build this character so it doesn't suck.
Probably gonna go Dragonborn Vengeance Paladin.
Probably gonna go High Elf Vengeance Paladin.
I'm gonna make a goodie-two shoes young male human paladin and romance Karlach. And he VILL make her happy.
That's what a tiefling veteran of the Blood War had been waiting for. A normal, regular, young human paladin to settle down with.
Level 1 veteran of the blood war is still fricking absurd to me. Lae'zel is the only character in the entire game who acts her starting level.
>Level 1 veteran of the blood war is still fricking absurd to me.
Why? Even back in the Planescape setting the canon fodder was comprised of low-level demons/devils and hired mercenaries.
>Level 1 veteran of the blood war is still fricking absurd to me.
She's got her levels drained a couple of editions ago and never recovered since.
Also "Level 1" in 5th Edition is completely different from "Level 1" in 2nd Edition.
This
>Level 1 Mage in 2nd Edition
>4 Hit Points
>A Single Spell
>Level 1 Mage in 5th Edition
>On average 10 Hit Points
>Unlimited cantrips, which also hit harder than any spell the Mage may have
>And 2 casts of Level 1 Spells, which are also more powerful than any spell the Mage may have
Yep and he shall provide many cuddles and emotional support for devil rage device ape outs
Will she femdom the pally or be tradwaifu?
white-man-hating Larian has fallen to using the same tactics as pozcat
>forget about the setting, characters, story, etc.
>just talk about spec autism!
Mushroom druid.
Unless Larian buffed it (likely tbh) Mushroom Druid is garbo.
Question. I know that levels and stats mean something special right? Like a level 1 wizard is a trained wizard and 10 int is normal. So what's a level 10 like the cap? What's 18 int mean?
I have no idea what you're even trying to ask but you need to work on your phrasing.
I think he means lore-wise. Like 20 of a stat makes you incredibly beyond normal
Then it'd probably goes something like this:
18 INT: Very smart.
20 INT: VERY very smart, like... genius smart. Real smart, you know.
Not very relevant in the context of a video game though. You don't have to roleplay being below or above average intelligence.
And yes I can't speak good either, blame my 9 INT
i think int in older editions was based on iq so like 20 int would be an inhuman intellect honestly, really anything above 16 would be a supergenius
Are you confusing stats and levels?
Maybe the site bg3. Wiki helps?
Probably play some fighter/cleric like always
No need for fighter in a cleric IMHO. You could take fighter 5 for the extra attack if that's how you roll.
What difficulty are you mad lads going to play on? Normal as usual? Hard mode to make the game even longer than it already is? Or storymode?
Normal of course, because reloading after having my ass kicked is probably going to be frustrating pretty quickly, and the whole hand-holding of Story Mode is pretty insulting.
Normal, as I don't want their custom rules, like fighter using fireball scroll etc.
Subclasses, stats? Beast master moon could be interesting.
Siding with goblins needs a lot of mental gymnastics. Sure, if you go evil/illithid, it's valid.
Do they attack directly after accusation?
Curious. Gloomstalkter/thief is then like 14 times?
>Do they attack directly after accusation?
I think there is a way to bribe them or persuade them it didn't happen. You can also distance yourself and after some time they will just go back to normal.
Haste in BG3 gives full actions with no rules. It usually should go
>Level 5 Fighter, hasted
>Attack, attack a second time from Extra Attack
>attack a third time because of Haste limits you to one extra attack
It is
>Attack, attack a second time from Extra Attack
>attack a third time, and then a fourth time because its a full real action from haste
You can also cast two spells in one turn, which is usually impossible. So yeah, they let you go wild a bit
Maybe I'll try friends in the game for once.
Are you telling me that haste gives you an extra attack and an extra turn?
Curious how they will implement mages and clerics as enemies.
>ranger/druid multiclass
sneed it or chuck it?
>Create Undead
do i have to be a Necromancer to use this? i wanted to try Eldritch Knight for the first time ever but summoning skeletons is just too good
Any class can use it.
Does "Charm" spell have any good non combat uses? I havent played the early access yet but im thinking about Necromancy/Enhancement for my first character
Gives advantage in dialog, which is always good. The problem is, although it is quite easy to deal with, is they will accuse you of magically charming you. Same for using the Friends cantrip.
If Gloomstalker is tabletop accurate and they don't change haste a Gloomstalker fighter can attack 9 times without even using bonus actions
>can attack 9 times
huh?
30 fricking days. Ok i'm uninstalling and going to try and stay out of threads, popping in just to check for news, fingers crossed i am fresh for the release. I have my class and race chosen.
>Shield Dwarf
>10 DEX for heavy armor only
>Fighter Two-Weapon Fighting Style
>Battle Master
>lvl 4 feat DUAL WIELDER(battle axe in each hand)
See you 72 hours before release day lads!
Max con or gtfo
Bg3. Wiki check the website
Have you ever played a game before
You sure you don't want to have 17 Str & 17 Con and bump both to 18 at level 4 instead?
Dual Wielder is neat but more Strength means +1 damage and +1 accuracy instead of DW's +1 average damage and +1 armor. Also the Con boost helps. Plus you can already use handaxes, anyway.
In the end it doesn't matter, I guess. You'll have both 20 Str and Dual Wielder by level 8.
BTW would Dwarf War Cleric with Dual Wield be good? I was thinking of Dual wielding flails or warhammers.
Only if you get feats and fighting style. No flails so far. Weapon choice should be martial and picked with regard to modals of given weapon. Secondary weapon can be any.
True
Dwarves get free prof with Battleaxes and Warhammers.
Dual weapon fighting style? IMHO only martial classes get it
What does it mean for it. For it to be into level the cap. Stats?
So if I buy BG3 the day before early full access begins, do I get that? Something about how you have access to the "full" act 1 3 days before everyone else does?
Yes, 31st July you can start a new playthrough with the final patch.
Cool, thanks
Just setting the record straight for all of you EA chuds who cannot stop talking about your 3-day advance.
You are nothing more than lowborn soldiers sent on the frontline to die and soften the enemy's morale, while noble knights such as I observe the battlefield from a safe distance and swoop in when it's become clear the battle needs a hero to save the day.
So enjoy your "privilege" to beta-test the game for me for any last minute patch-up while I take a relaxing nap. I'll see you on Aug 3, peasants.
I don't intend on playing on Day 1.
1. It's too fricking hot where I live, so I don't want to spoil the experience. I'll wait a month so it gets cooler.
2. It's almost guaranteed there will be some intensive initial patching.
Patching 100%
Replaying dos2 rn. Boy, there still plenty of broken quests.
Glyph of warding is the most broken spell in the game is sleeps all enemies in a large radius for 2 turns
allowing you set up and to auto crit them and it doesn't even use concentration
>lawful good
>white male
>devotion paladin
>Total Origin Character Death
Yup, it’s gaming time.
>Lawful Good
At least know the basics of the game before you start spamming this shit. There are no alignments in the game.
Not officially, but informally that doesn't stop most players from having one in mind when they customize a character. And obviously not the most boring LG Paladin archetype player.
If anything, it's the Backgrounds/Inspirations combination which encourage you to play as a certain type of character. Class reactivity comes in second, with the exception of Clerics.
When I first heard of bg3, I wanted to rp a lloth paladin duergar. Guess that's not allowed in dnd.
I can already imagine the kwetching from people who played the EA when it turns out Larian reduced the available good by 2/3 in order to stop rest spamming.
They've already confirmed they made it artificially abundant.
I also hope there'll be more story/quest penalties for resting too much than what is already present.
Really curious if they fix resting - doubt it.
>female
>drow
>Lore Bard
>wife shadowheart
I want to start as a bard so I can pick out all the skills and proficiencies I want, then take two levels of warlock for eldritch blast+agonizing blast+darkvision, then back to bard for the rest of the game. I don't know if this is going to be screwing myself but I feel like on normal difficulty it probably won't matter. Am I making a mistake?
Well it'll meant hat you won't have access to level 6 spells that you get at level 11 and you miss the Ability Score Improvement/Feat at level 12. But if they're not that interesting to you then you're fine.
Frankly I don't think Bard's level 6 spells are that great compared to what they can already cast. Not like Wizards and such.
I am completely uninitiated so I don't fully understand what sixth level spells a bard would be missing out on, I was just thinking since I want to stack a ton of charisma anyways I might as well take the eldritch blast fun button and be able to pick human and still have darkvision.
Won't miss out on much. Have a look at their spell lists if you want (and click the 6th Level spell tab at the top).
http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/spells:bard
http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/spells:wizard
Simply no contest. Bards get more fun spells on earlier levels.
Of course, we don't know all the spells that'll be included on release so those lists can't be used to plan anything concrete.
> and you miss the Ability Score Improvement/Feat at level 12.
Considering this also happens to be the level cap, doesn't this encourage dipping in the first place?
You only loose if you dip under 4 levels. Multiclassing can still outclass single class if you know what you are doing.
...why?
1. Take a race that already has darkvision.
2. Take the "Warloc Apprentice" Feat and pick eldritch blast as one of the cantrips.
You'll only miss out on Agonizing Blast, instead of two full levels.
Agonizing Blast is the main part, though.
Multiclassing is all the fun. And character building is really half the fun.
5th Edition DnD doesn't encourage multiclassing, quite the opposite in fact.
What exactly happens in-game when you use "Friends" on someone?
Yeah, I saw that. Still possible to make fun/broken/flavour builds. However it's designed for people not to, and it shows.
IMHO subclasses are the worst progression system.
Apparently you gain advantage for checks, but if you return, they are mad. You can bribe them or wait 1-2 level ups and they forget the accident. Very much like in real life.
QRD on reputation?
Dunno. All I've noticed it affecting is the prices when bartering.
Qrd == quick run down?
And no, I didn't double post. It was post almost simultaneously.
Ah, got it.
Reputation is until now the exact same like in dos2. That's why you see streamers gifting 100 items to the mighty lich who also opens shop in your camp (larian...) to bump rep to 100, so they get triple payment for every item they sell after donations. Curious, if they will change it. Doubt it.
I'm not sure - they said they intentionally "eased up" on certain mechanics for the purpose of the beta testing - they specifically mentioned the over-abundance of food as an example.
So maybe being able to manipulate reputations is another one?
Sure. We will see. They did have all the time in the world, and like quintuple budget than initially planned, but I'm still certain ending will be shite. Tav is Hebrew for ve'tahv, which roughly translates to omega.
They also said we will get a lot of good origins and lvl 10 will be cap. We will see in few days on the final pfh.
>What exactly happens in-game when you use "Friends" on someone?
You get advantage on charisma checks on them but lose reputation when the spell ends because they know you Friended them.
Why not 6 sword bard rest lock? You won't miss asi and will have better saves than warlock and best skills possible. Also an extra attack. You will loose spell progression though, worth it IMHO.
So I would just be playing swords bard to 6 and then taking levels in warlock from 7 onward? As a swords bard would I be favoring eldritch blast less than regular attacks?
Yes, to get the extra attack ASAP and start with bard as he has the better saves, max charisma. Eldritch blast is an cantrip, meaning you use it if you don't have anything better.
If I went full warlock instead would Eldritch Blast still be a button to press when I don't have anything better? Was kind of hoping for it to be my primary weapon.
Yes, as a warlock you are mainly an eldritch blast turret
It'll be the same. Cantrips scale via char level.
Do we have a final spell list? The one shared few days ago is so limited. That can't be everything and we are still missing core spells like shields. Whole builds depend on them.
I hope for new weapon types, likely not going to happen.
>Forest Gnome get "Speak with Animals" as a racial spell at Level 1.
Hmm... that's tempting.
But they're short. What kind of weirdo even plays short races? This includes dwarf btw.
Yep, this is going into the book.
Huh?
But they're short. Nobody wants to be short. Not even short people. Especially short people.
Maybe consult a therapist?
Do you want to be short?
I'll play an ek/goo on release, likely underdark gnome. I don't want to be a underground abomination in real life, nor a hobbit. However I don't have a problem playing a game as one.
Do you understand the difference?
Idk, there are plenty of good choices. Gnomes are great wizards though.
Short races are mechanically the best.
If you go for one playthrough, go human. If you make multiple, why not try what the game offers? Dragonborn gets a somewhat strong breath weapon. With larians surface fetish you can combo away. One of the many reasons to go full custom party.
Pretty sure there's one lone reactivity check for if you're a short race. You stick your hand in a hard to reach hole.
Wonder if there's gonna be more in full release
short race specific checks in sex scenes....
By the way, for those who played the EA - how many interactions does "Speak with Animals" and "Speak with Dead" actually unlock?
100, easily.
Gnomes are fantastic wizards. Dwarf wizard has medium armor for free. Halfling advantage for saving throws.
A lot. There is a literal Druid Grove(obviously filled with animals) right after the tutorial to start you going places. There are also animals spread around in the wilderness. There will probably be less animals in the city of Baldur's Gate.
Rodents, pets, birds...
Sewer animals..
I guess you're right. If you're going to be making a Wizard unless you specifically wnat to roleplay another race or want a combat build the logical choice is Forest Gnome.
If you're going to be playing a traditional Wizard you might as well make it a Forest Gnome.
>+1 DEX
>+2 INT
>free Speak With Animals
>Darkvision
>Gnome Cunning(advantage on Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma Saving Throws)
Im gonna pirate this game and there is nothing you gays can do about it.
Good!
Youre not getting a single cent, Sven.
Unfortunately he has already enough
I Would pirate it, if. I knew where.
Yeah, just like Daedalic with Gollum.
Did Gollum sell so much that it broke Steam? I didn't know that anon, wow
God, how bad that game is.
I'm sure old Swen is kinda touched you love his game so much you're going to play it even without the entry fee. That's a great compliment.
He loves creative ways to achieve goals.
It's on gog, they're really asking for it.
The cuck schizo must've been banned from the board. Go look at:
And see what a rampaging moron looks like.
>The cuck schizo must've been banned from the board.
Good, jannies need a 20% raise. That was a really tiresome shitposter.
that guy has been schizoposting for years i really doubt they can ban him
At least he's not the cirigay
or the gay dude who fills a thread by himself
I'm almost convinced the cuck posting is done by yet another group of Discord homosexuals, who have nothing better to do with their lives.
Nah Im still here.
how does it feels being popular ?
feels great.
Wait... there's no Death Domain. But you can play as a Cleric of both Myrkul and Kelemvor, right? How is that possible?
Insider information: Death domain would make Chinese localization awkward, so they removed it.
It's not PHB. I know, I know Gloomstalker.
But there's no domains available that would actually fit either, like Death, Law, Dreams etc.
Not just that, but Spores Druid is available, and he's the closest you'll get to a Necromancer Druid.
>targets con (highest save for almost everything)
>save for nothing NOT save for half
>low damage regardless
Shroom bros... Larian buffed us right?
You'll get low CON enemies once you enter the city, I imagine.
Could some good anon point out whether any of these new upcoming spells are Cantrips?
i don't see any
Just a selection, chill. We likely get 200 spells outside phb.
I wouldnt' count on it, especially spells that aren't simple damage dealers. Remember, if they'd want to retroactively add any utility/environmental/speech-related - generally more complex spells, they'd have to go back and re-adjust the entire game towards those spells. So I don't think it'll happen.
The same with adding any additional races, subraces, domains, classes - anything that has in-game, in-dialogue reactivity. Too many moving parts.
I think that Larian isn't bullshitting when they stated that no DLC/content patches will come out, and the game will be complete on release.
We will get more than patch 9 spells + picrel. We have level 6 for full casters and level 5 for others. IMHO 8 classes have magic abilities.
Oh, you misunderstood. They've already said the full release will have around 600 spells. I meant that, after that, they won't be adding anything new.
Okay. So on July 30th we'll have the full version of act 1? The quest for going to the moon towers and such?
Isn't it the whole game,
No, unfortunately not, but I've heard that instead of the EA version of act 1, we'll be getting the full release version of act 1. The full game releases on August 3rd
Any use for this transgender spell?
>masc
>femme
Uhhh don't they mean Type A and Type B
Just answer the question, alright?
What's the point of changing words from "female"
to "femme" and "male" to "masc"?
Fear.
What the frick does that mean?
Fear of making Twitter mad by suggesting appearance is related to gender.
Oh, and masc is the right word for it, huh?
Yes, it's appearance focused.
>masc
Short for masculine, masc is a cultural term used by LGBTQ+ people to denote masculine appearance or mannerisms in queer people. It is not exactly the same as masculinity (See: femme vs. femininity).
All bodies can be masc, masc people can use all pronouns. To be masc doesn't necessarily mean you want to be like a cisgender heterosexual man. Most often masc culture is defined by queer masculine people- especially transmasc (mas transgender and gender nonconforming) people. Like masculinity, masc is not defined by cisgender or heterosexual men and being masc doesn't automatically mean you practice "toxic masculinity" or hate femininity.
There is some complex overlap between butch lesbian and transmasc culture.
>What is it with them?
Basically some think tanks figured out many years ago that if you can get children to be constantly spinning in place and depressed about their sexual identity, while others focus on attacking them, that you don't have to worry about any them organizing themselves in any real fashion.
While this is likely true, I never found any papers that explicitly advocate that. I did find some that talk their way around it and can be read either way.
Add to that Hormone-Drugs are really cheap to make and are essentially a byproduct of another drug.
You have now lots and lots of cheap meds that you can sell for premium all you have to do is create a customerbase, so you spent your drugmoney (the money pharma corps do is fricking ridiculous) and spent a few billions on marketing and voila, you have created the transgender lifestyle.
The Pharma lobby already figured out in the 70s that its way more profitable to sell meds to the healthy than the sick.
But wait, Trans-Tech isn't a budding industry merely for Pharma, hospitals can profit from it too. No you can get healthy patients to frick their bodies up so hard that they will need more meds to just keep going AND hospital-stay for genderops.
Its like printing money!
>gay tolerance is NOT a slippery slope
Heh
Based capitalists. Stupid people that chop their dick's off on a whim deserve nothing but suffering
Children deserve protection from society and humanity is about uplifting ourselves over generations. This is a death cult mentality you have, also a great tool of control.
>Children deserve protection from society
Yeah just don't live in a place where they'll kidnap your kid and cut his dick off. This isn't that hard
Yes, you absolutely have to create a financial interest in any social engineering technique you want to enact, that's how it becomes self-perpetuating and untraceable.
>femme
>masc
Did "male" and "female" cease to exist? What in the frick.
Male and female are cisnormative dogwhistle microaggressions equivalent to sea ottering
its sealioning
What the frick is sealioning?
term used by people being told they are wrong online because they think public websites are private spaces
>YOU'RE POLITEBOMBING ME
Now listen here, Cryptofascist!
Mega-Corps controlling our speech is all in the great spirit of the great socialist ur-fathers Marx & Engels
I love this comic, because of it's universality.
If you kill someone, and want to use Speak with Dead, they won't speak with their killer. So you can disguise yourself to do it. You can also just get all the race-specific stuff like interacting with Tieflings in the grove, or Drow into the goblin camp and grymforge
Bump. Could someone not /misc/tarding right now actually answer the question?
No.
Try reading the post above yours, champ.
Eh... seems like a huge waste of a spell slot, then.
you can find magic items in the underdark with that kind of utility spells
No.
1. Its /misc/gaying not /misc/tarding you fricking newbie.
2. This was the most interesting discussion in a BG3-Thread in like 3 weeks so frick off.
Yeah, constantly. Also detect thoughts and speak to shit.
Disguising yourself as a drow makes interacting with goblins easier. But it also removes foot fetish content, so it's a mixed bag.
I pirated the EA last fall and had a pretty good time. Think I'll do a half high-elf fighter build. Just want to turn off my brain and hit things with a big sword. I'm probably going to go for the charlatan background since I also like to persuade and deceive
Bay?
I downloaded it from RARBG (RIP) if that's what you're asking
Sad. Any valid alternatives?
Never heard that word before.
Disgusting.
What is it with them? Afraid to speak up and to unreflected to question anything corporations spoonfeed them. No wonder people snap and start shooting into crowds.
Holy checked, but I don't know any alternatives. Try the megathread on r/piracy that has a big list of sites
Thx
Patch 9 nowhere to be found, checked a dozen sites. Damn.
Try Steam
?
rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5952884
Cкaчaть is the thing to click at?
Spasiba
use magnet link
Thx
Hero we desperately need
Why not gloomstalkter assassin mc?
Or thief barb and spam double attacks.
Another supreme gentleman
What else is there?
Why did they call Ric Flair the nature boy?
I have tried to use Disguise Self without much success ever since gaining my wizard powers. This spell sucks.
Obsv it does
I disagree. It wasn't created by them, but boy, did they support it big league at some point. Billions of tax money to fuel it.
Byproduct of which drug?
Right! Haven't even thought of selling hormones, sure, keep the gdp rising.
It's totally a lifestyle. Found that out years ago by myself.
It's literally printing money and then you can apply rainbow tax to fair jeans.
Only to prove they aren't insane! Check your privilege.
Huehue
Maybe, who cares? Already planning triple class builds.
Supreme gentlemen.
>I have tried to use Disguise Self without much success ever since gaining my wizard powers. This spell sucks.
Learn where it would be appropriate to use it. Learn to sneak so you can scout ahead. Once you know what you're going to be encountering, choose a disguise that will be beneficial.
Shadowheart impregnator build???
Spore druid
I will continue to pirate Larian games like I pirate Paradox and Obsidian games, and there is not a force alive that can hand me a cease and desist.
Also, Rogue is the only fun martial in 5e, so that. Either an Assassin or Thief.
is it better to buy this on gog or steam?
gog-games
Doesn't work 🙁
build autism is my favorite part of crpgs
How faithful is this game to 5e?
I haven't played any tabletop systems since 3.5e DND and Pathfinder 1/2 so immediately I'm trying to figure out if there are any noob traps
Somewhat. Some of the weaker options have been buffed. Like sorcerers don't have bloodline spells in 5e, but they do in BG3.
>How faithful is this game to 5e?
It is like 75 percent accurate to 5e.
They tweaked the classes, for the better, mostly. So I wouldn't rely on any subclass break down or anything indepth.
>noob traps
5e doesn't really have noob traps at the level of of/3.5. Well, it sort of does, but no where near that level, and Larian has buffed the lowest denominator.
I will play an Oath of Ancients Paladin with Jaheira and we WILL protect nature and the trees and the little birdies
Anons, is it true that, when creating a character and choosing one of the pre-made Origins, you DON'T create the "who do you dream of" character?
Because if that's the case, doesn't this outright confirm what the "leaker" claimed, that it's not a manifestation of the tadpole, but the essence of Bhaal?
Who knows
I doubt bhaal goes this way
Then again larian lobotomy writing is capable of anything
Doesn't this contradict the usage of illithid wisdom triggering lover scenes? Also the brain things whisper in girly voices and illithid are loved when they overcome you. Or bhaal is the father of illithid and vlaakith the mother and lae'zel is vlaakith before illithid lich transformation.
Wait... people have a problem figuring this out? It's obvious if you think for 5 seconds - the dream lover is the manifestation of the "special" tadpole, who wants to enter symbiosis with you; whilst the urge towards violence, the bloodthirst you feel within the dream etc., is the essence of Bhaal. Both of those are antagonistic towards one another, making it all the more obvious?
It's also obvious why the illithid chose that particular group of people to implant with the experimental tadpoles - each of them have some "special" bloodline, either through connections to divinity, like Gale; a hellish pact, like Wyll; or being a descendant of dinivity, like the Bhaalspawn.
I remember something about the tadpole carriers being weapons. I think that's something you hear the 3 chosen of the Absolute mention when you see them in a vision.
I'm leaning barbarian to throw stuff around, shove people and all that. If variant human is there, then that, if not then maybe a half orc or dragonborn. Probably berserker for a subclass.
No vhuman. Barb halforc + thief for bonus and sneak.
That seems like an interesting combo, but at which level would you do that? Getting Thief is a 3 level dip, same with berserker. To throw people strength is important too and you want rages. Extra bonus isn't better than an extra attack I think (but I haven't seen how they implemented it, played before level 5 was unlocked, and then a bit after but didn't get to level 5 before I decided to wait for the release). So let's say you're level 3 barbarian berserker, you can start going into rogue immediately, but that takes 3 levels and doesn't seem that great as opposed to going barb 5 for that ASI and extra attack. So what barb 5 then rogue 3 (or 4 for extra ASI)? Seems kinda late, and expertise is good, but sneak attack is wasted (unless they took off the limitations).
There is no good time. I've considered a long time on the best time to multiclass a Barbarogue for a tabletop game and it's at level 5, which is too bad. Getting extra attack is too important.
That said, Berserker Barbarians (at level 3) can make a bonus action attack while Raging so you're not as bad off if you multiclass earlier with them without as much of a drop but you'll still be weaker than other pure level 5 classes.
The level cap is 12 right? Maybe something late like barb 8/rogue 4 could work? I'd definitely go after level 5, but when exactly would depend how much I feel like I need the extra rage, charm resistance and initiative bonus. But to be honest in throwing/shoving focus, would getting one more bonus help much? Like how often will you beed to throw 4 people one round? Or is it just for the round when you activate the rage? Of course you can just attack people, but I think throwing them is funnier.
Yeah, start with thief 3, then full barb or barb then 3 thief for cartoon dialogue.
If you start as barb, immediately switch thief, then after 3lvl thief full barb. Takes a little until extra attack, but larian games are piss easy. Solod as a bard with literally no cheese.
Asi aren't as important as level in barb/rage. 18-20 Str is enough, put rest in dex and maybe 14 in con. Ac is key in this game, as you are constantly outnumbered/flanked.
But I specifically want to throw people, not just stab them hard. Isn't throw range (and the ability to throw someone itself) dependant on strength? I want normal attacks more as a backup for when throwing isn't really an option.
Well then 3 barbarian to get Enraged Throw then 3 in Thief for the extra bonus action to do it twice since Enraged Throw is a bonus action.
Your 8 Barb and 4 Thief works fine for this.
>Well then 3 barbarian to get Enraged Throw then 3 in Thief for the extra bonus action to do it twice since Enraged Throw is a bonus action.
Won't I get an extra throw faster if I go barb 5? Extra attack can also be used for extra throw, no? And ASI for strength to throw further.
Sure. Sounds like the better option. Thief can wait.
Barbarian has what you need anyway and it's always safer to multiclass after level 5.
So? You can still do it throw around most things. Just pick a normal sized race. Like I said, max Str and dex. Str is your most important stat, ac is the most important variable.
No idea what your throwing fetish is, it's not very efficient. Maybe you saw too much promo material of larian.
Idk, bonus action is pretty much key. You usually start fights in a bad position.
Your choice. I'd finish thief ASAP. Back stab is also a live safer, as bosses have ridiculously high ac, action points and movement.
I bought bg3 now and finished ea almost. I must say the criticism isn't hard enough. The writing is sometimes km bad, they do push fetish propaganda and everything and everyone obeys to the silent main char.
Despite all this, astarion is by far the best companion and I don't like him one bit. All other comps are completely unbelievable appeasement sex dolls.
Just stabbing shit is boring, I like gimmicky combos. Throwing people sounds fun. Grappling also usually sucks in games and this gives at least a tiny bit of it.
Go brawler. Idk I only used throw few times. Boring and Inefficient. Even throwing axes are underwhelming.
Multiclasses are all about gimmicks.
As in tavern brawler? Did they implement it in some funky way? Cause normally it's just pretty underwhelming.
In some games fists are absolutely op, but almost all games suck. Haven't checked it, but there's a talent for it.
Now that I finished ea I am certain act one will be more than double of ea. Underground is apparently the easy way, and creche and forest will likely be medium and hard. So we are likely to see level 8/10 after act 1 (including all content) good choice as I like to play geared up characters.
Larian home brew rules in regarding of balance is on point. I do expect more items though.
Also I will totally play fighter/mage/thief, like in a true bg game.
Sneak attack is absolutely op, esp dual wield thief
Was disgusting
Normal people don't teleport
I may go for a Dwarf Wild Magic Barbarian. For some reason I see people talking about Duergar for this class so I may go for it too.
Is there an unspoken agreement the worst opinions on this board must be attached to anime pictures? By the way, Shadowife and Bae'zel are miracles of the universe.
>tranime reaction pic
opinion immediately rendered invalid, sorry try again, fatty
>"N-NO U" tier reply
>still posting tranime pic
heres your (You) and take a shower, fatty. you stink
>still replying
lol last (You) I'll give you
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I can do this all day, the question is
can (You)?
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>still going at it
>people running defense for D:OS2 in the BG3 thread
Reminder that Larian received backlash so intense for trying to implement shitty Divinity combat at the start of the beta that they basically redid almost all aspects of it. Most CRPG fans don't like the normiecore "everything is covered in feces and fire and teleporting around" combat of that game.
Stop defending it, BG3 is better in every way.
>and teleporting around
god I hated that. It made positioning feel arbitrary when you watch the opening of a fight as half the enemies jump or teleport.
Also it kinda just pissed me off that for some reason Warfare couldn't get it's teleport (Phoenix Dive) till you were off the island so you felt like a moron who couldn't teleport like a normal person.
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lol
Shut the frick up
no
? What game do you play?!
Everyone constantly applauses everything I do. Like ten (drunk) people already begged me to have sex for them and weren't one bit disappointed I declined. "please come back anytime". ludo narrative doesn't go well with sandbox, eh swen?
Game is high polish, no question. Few bugs here and there, but honestly wotr today in worse condition.
It's a shame they have such subpar writing.
Also focusing on the absolute I expect nothing from the ending. IMHO the wrong choice to start immediately with the big bad guy, but larian favours this approach. Didn't work in dos2 either.
I pretty much helped everyone. The tieflings I killed, bc I didn't know how to get leazel or what's her name and the bandits before withers for the xp. I helped halsin aso. The only time I saw the frog disapproving was when I talked to the healer of the druids for a cure. Maybe it's different for bard, as the class tag seems pretty op in dialogues.
What is the best draconic bloodline for a sorcerer?
Fire and poison is the most frequent damage type and poison us the most obnoxious one. You can take dragonborn for double resistances.
Gonna go Palabard.
College of swords/Oath of vengeance.
Smites for days. Skill monkey. +1 AC +2 dmg. Advantage for bosses and hunters mark. Later on should have
Will probably sword and board since that synergises best. But great weapon master is almost too good to pass up. Tbh though probably won't need the extra damage and kind of want to give shield master a try even though larian nerfed it by giving everyone free shoves.
Haven't decided on race. Tempted by Half-orc for the crits, but the cha you can only start off at 15.
Other options are half-wood-elf or zariel tiefling. Helf gets fleet of foot and better starting stats. Zariel gets two extra smites. The Cha is better also which pays off a bit too, but it isn't as needed on vengeance oath.
Unless variant human gets in. In which case it's a no-brainer.
Would love to play a monk, but even with the update they're still kind of shit.
Good, but start with paladin bc of the saves.
GWM is ridiculous. A must. Esp as enemy hp is bloated.
He is decent, sleep immunity and great stats, drow he is great in dialogue. No vhuman.
No info regarding monk, what are you talking about?
Depending on how Gloomstalker is implemented, Gloom 8/Theif 4 should be blender kino. Hopefully enough cool 1H weapons exist
Will at least be as good as in tt.
Thief is likely the best multiclass there is.
With feats and items you can build a bonus action machine.
How are 5th level fighters in bg3? Do they get anything cool from larian like rangers/barbs do?
They get an extra attack, so you get to attack twice per round.
But so do rangers/paladins/barbarians, and even 3rd level theif rogues
Rogues have no extra attack.
Well, ek have magic and bm have a lot of maneuvers. I expect more in 3 weeks.
The only larian rule I strongly dislike is that everyone can use scrolls. Triviliases the game.