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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not discussing your troony fanfic
    Not baldurs gate

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Whatever bg is. In any case it's the closest we will get in the next 15y or so.
      Theres no troony fur shit in my build, you sad kun.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does BG3 even have trannies?

      Is there even a single WRPG where you can play as a troony?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Cyberpunk 2077
        >Arcanum

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cyberpunk doesn't count since it has literally zero influence on the game.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Which monk is the most aesthetic in 5e?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm betting on elemental monk in bg3.
      Monk could go well with cha classes and thief. Maybe barb, if rage aso is compatible.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you choose a deity when making a Cleric?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. Only clerics do so (unfortunately).

      How will anyone even recruit minthara when the route to getting her is dumb as frick?

      I do hope they change it. Little faith though.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Which ones are available?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Idk haven't played ea, yet.
          Maybe this helps:
          https://baldursgate3.wiki.fextralife.com/Deities

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wait... you can play as a fricking CLERIC OF BHAAL?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Apparently, idk. The three certainly will play a key role and bhaal is revived and activated sarevok (a homeless drug addict) as cleric.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >activated sarevok (a homeless drug addict) as cleric
                That's from a non-canon Dungeon Master's Guild adventure module, anon.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Is that so?
                Still pretty confident that sarevok will show up.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                My bet is rather on Imoen. Coran is a given, since he's an influential noble within the city.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                100% imoen. Hopefully not horribly voiced.
                Pretty sure korgan and Jan are at least mentioned as well.

                Cleric and Bard are both ridiculously versatile.

                It's ridiculous how op they are. Wizard is no match for them. Bard of valor is buffer, fighter, full caster and has like all the skills in the world.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >korgan and Jan
                When and where?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Imoen
                Will she call us a queer fellow?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm more interested in that response from Swen that the non-Origin party members can instead be our enemies/adverseries. We already know this is the case for Minathra, but he also confirmed it for Minsc and Jaheira.
                Is this what's going on with Halsin? Will he be exclusive to Jaheira through some story choices shenanigans?
                If yes, it means there's a lot more party members that haven't been revealed.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Cleric is likely the worst multiclass class. It's actually all classes in one. Cleric is actually a one man party in 5e.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cleric and Bard are both ridiculously versatile.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cleric is like the most common multiclass dip wtf are you talking about

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why? Do the subclasses come early and are front loaded?

                I will play an Oath of Ancients Paladin with Jaheira and we WILL protect nature and the trees and the little birdies

                How wise, oh omnipresent authority figure.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                In 5e yeah. Full casters get heavier armor and shield proficiency with only a 1 level dip and some of the most powerful auras in the game.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I personally am not a fan of multiclassing. Not my thing.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Second that, I'm heavy into actually roleplaying a character, so I'd rather create one that makes sense, story-wise.

                Also, any words on the Hermit and Sailor backgrounds? That last one seems especially...odd. Are we going to get some boat action in the full game?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Are we going to get some boat action
                Maybe not in full but Baldur's Gate is a port city

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You don't have to go pure single class if you want to roleplay a character. It's not hard to see how a monk could pick up some fighter skills or a nature cleric might become a druid.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The Hermit will be hilarious, since this indicates they'll probably add a ton of dialogue options/choices to the effect off:
                >Leave me alone! And get off of my lawn!

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, doubt you'll get heavy armor from a dip. You will have to start as cleric and then change the class.

                Second that, I'm heavy into actually roleplaying a character, so I'd rather create one that makes sense, story-wise.

                Also, any words on the Hermit and Sailor backgrounds? That last one seems especially...odd. Are we going to get some boat action in the full game?

                We will see Friday. Maybe.
                Yeah, there are vehicles in hell.

                There are also multiclass combos that make sense flavour wise.

                You don't have to go pure single class if you want to roleplay a character. It's not hard to see how a monk could pick up some fighter skills or a nature cleric might become a druid.

                Exactly.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why would you want it changed? She is the evil route, Shadowheart is the one you can corrupt/uncorrupt from Shar. Changing Minthara so you can dick her as a good guy seems stupid.

        What exactly is her route? Do you have to betray and kill everyone?

        You have to give up the location of the druid grove, and also participate on the goblin side killing all the tieflings/druids there.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    How will anyone even recruit minthara when the route to getting her is dumb as frick?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bloodsplatter
      oh god, it's dragon age all over again

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >YOU DON'T UNDESTAND YOU MUST KILL THE INNOCENT PEOPLE
      I will rather rape her until she become mindbroken and couldn't live without me.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's just standard evil bullshit.
      >I NEED THING
      >YOU HELP ME GET THING
      >I LIKE THAT YOU GOT THING FOR ME
      > I FRICK YOU NOW
      Sounds a lot like zoomer women now that I think about it.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      What exactly is her route? Do you have to betray and kill everyone?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      just because you want to play a moralgay character doesn't mean the choices you would not make are 'dumb as frick'
      when the EA came out the first thing i did was the minthara route without even knowing or expecting i'd be able to bang her or that it would make her recruitable in the full game

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Even evil characters wouldn't choose Minthara's route organically. Come off it.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        What was your motivation?

        Even evil characters wouldn't choose Minthara's route organically. Come off it.

        Explain

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's not pragmatic. It's not intelligent. It's just evil for evil's sake and more likely to frick yourself over than not if you have a brain capable of calculation. It's a transparent "choose this for evil and breasts" route that only works through metagame motivations.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Agree.
            Which makes it below cartoon writing.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It's not pragmatic.
            The druids can't help you. Minthara has a tadpole and is working with the Absolute, whoever they are. Why would a pragmatic character not at the very least briefly consider her route to be more likely to solve the tadpole issue? Why would a pragmatic character care about refugees and druids?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              The motivation for going to to the goblin camp in the first place is to find Halsin, who you are told might be able to help you, and by the time you find out he can't help you've already chosen a side. The script could do a better job of tempting your character into performing evil acts by explicitly promising you things and actually delivering, but it doesn't. As it stands you're simply told what to do but they don't properly motivate you to do it, you must simply obey. The way things are currently set up only really works for Drow characters.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ummm my drow femdommy mommy step on me mommyyyyy

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >What was your motivation?
          the druids are evil and annoying and i don't care about tieflings + i wanted to see how much agency they gave the player

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >for the lulz
            Okay

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              evil paths are just as valid as good paths

              Dos2 movement.
              Yeah, your story is sad and touching, but I really want the exp, so... Die?

              i doubt it's more xp since you lose out on killing all the goblins

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                If all you care about is experience, you can just attack them whenever, but in terms of story the whole camp goes hostile after the celebration because The Absolute hates you for some reason.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                even if you talk minthara into helping you? i don't recall killing all the goblins afterwards but maybe i just didn't return to the goblin camp

                Can't you kill goblins and druids?

                if you want to max xp then sure, do all the quests then kill everyone

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I believe we will spend 30-40% of the game max level.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                probably, or they'll do some weird xp scaling where the latter levels take forever

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I believe we will spend 30-40% of the game max level.

                In DOS2 you got to half of the level cap by the end of ACT1. Levels slowed down a lot after that. Expect the same here

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Level cap is 23. I finish act 1 with level 8/9. Just replayed it.
                Tbh if you don't use tricks in the last fight, you need level 23, as the enemies have ridiculous stat/armor bloat.

                Just finished reading the whole divinity timeline. Actually stroy is rather bad and Lucian and braxus constantly reviving is rather lame. For like 10y and the void always loosing big league against 1-4 humans/mortals. How they push malady as both protagonist and antagonist is beyond ridiculous.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Can you even get to 23 without cheating? I though the max was 21 with extreme metagaming, and they expected most people to get to 20.
                Also I remembered finishing act 1 at 10. Maybe I'm misremembering
                Also yeah they never really cared about Divinity lore until the second game. It was just a patchwork job

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Arx has lots of exp. I am usually underleveled like 16/17 for whatever reason and when I did all in arx. Via guide I ended up With exactly 23.

                Tried the end boss with 20, was oneshotted with top gear. Thank god I saved before purchasing, so. I did EVERYTHING in arx and then purchased new gear (was at 300 gold after that) and won the fight with main char standing with like 5 hp.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You have to do it in right order, for instance there are multiple ambushes, finish quests and kill the quest giver (if its a meanie) in arx etc. The game doesn't register the killing anyway in the ending slides. Even picked talk to animals, despite it being ultra dumb and did quests there. Some quests/exp are hidden behind persuasion checks.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Killing Lohse’s demon master was one of the most thrilling and challenging game memories I have. Took a while. In the last fight I used that metamorph ability that put everyone at mid health. Since it used all of its best abilities out the gate and I saved mine and just took damage, it totally changed the course of the fight. Fun time. What a b***h of a boss.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                There are a lot of memorable fights in DOS 2.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                SOVL
                but
                >console

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I mean I just googled blackpits and picked an image. But if you wanna be a shit go for it I guess.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                This was such a good moron filter.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I played it just last night, since I wanted to do a run to occupy time till BG3 lands.
                Honestly it's just genuinely fun, as much fun as I remember it being. The fire and music makes the atmosphere tense but that just adds to how enjoyable it is. Sure the fight is difficult, but be smart and you can have a good time.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I love fights that filter people out. I love fights that make you think outside of the box.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly first time I fricked her quest up. Dunno how I did that. Don't spoiler. Playing rn and lohse quest is on track.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Larian's OCs are just annoying as frick and always have been

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, totally didn't like the concept, really.
                Also linear progression in stats doesn't work, not in poe nor in dos nor oblivion. It's just idiotic.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hope not. Would break pacing. Like wotr, here, last level for last fight. How dumb are you??!

                I expect act 3 (hell) to be rather short.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Can't you kill goblins and druids?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dos2 movement.
            Yeah, your story is sad and touching, but I really want the exp, so... Die?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Moment*
              What's with autocorrect lately

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why? Anything other than Human Male Fighter is the troony option. If you really want to LARP as Aragorn then Ranger is okay. And for you flaming homosexuals out there who are too queer and feminine for normal classes, vanilla sorcerer or wizard is an acceptable option. If see any of pick your special snowflake races and classes I will bash your into the ground. You've been warned.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why so boring bro?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's one of the local schizos who brings up trannies and gays in every thread.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, I love bg3. My issue is only with you special snowflake trannies and genderfluid queers. All those flowery classes and races exist merely as flavor for the world. You're not supposed to actually pick them. All's I'm saying is that if we were playing BG3 together and I saw you pick one of those classes you'd wake up in a hospital. That's all.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dunno, your Str 8 isn't really impressive, you lore bard.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              No, I love bg3. My issue is only with you special snowflake trannies and genderfluid queers. All those flowery classes and races exist merely as flavor for the world. You're not supposed to actually pick them. All's I'm saying is that if we were playing BG3 together and I saw you pick one of those classes you'd wake up in a hospital. That's all.

              Why so boring bro?

              Why? Anything other than Human Male Fighter is the troony option. If you really want to LARP as Aragorn then Ranger is okay. And for you flaming homosexuals out there who are too queer and feminine for normal classes, vanilla sorcerer or wizard is an acceptable option. If see any of pick your special snowflake races and classes I will bash your into the ground. You've been warned.

              You know the IP count isn't rising, you schizo samegay?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm only 3115101, you paranoid cretin.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                It says one. Me and you are already two, you laughable existence.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      4 pure white male champions, gotcha.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Why? Anything other than Human Male Fighter is the troony option.
      .....bait or schizophrenia? I can't tell anymore

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're male to female troony, aren't you?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I can't tell anymore
        Wow, you sound delusional. Take your meds.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Going with Monk for sure, hope they have good quarterstaffs

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      They actually do. I'm using a stave with my druid and it has a built in root spell.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I really hope we get better items. Dos had garbage items. Some unique were almost OK, rest gamey crap.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          There are plenty good items in BG3.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing iconic.
            Sure, you have useful stuff and powerful stuff, but stool club and salami isn't exactly carsomyr, is it?
            At least we don't have diablo 2 style loot in bg3.

            >Why? Anything other than Human Male Fighter is the troony option.
            .....bait or schizophrenia? I can't tell anymore

            Implying there's a difference in this case.

            It's just standard evil bullshit.
            >I NEED THING
            >YOU HELP ME GET THING
            >I LIKE THAT YOU GOT THING FOR ME
            > I FRICK YOU NOW
            Sounds a lot like zoomer women now that I think about it.

            Indeed.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Go frick yourself, shillhomosexual.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    so can you create a full party from scratch at some point or you do really have to use these Larian companions?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You always could.

      Run 4 instances of the game (at low graphics if you need to), host a multiplayer session for them, save at the start, quit, load and you got a full party all under your control.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Or just have 4 friends help y- LOL just kidding
        we all know nobody here has friends

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's fine. But has the same problem as the tabletop where you end up waiting 5 minutes+ for your turn to come around.

          Don't know why everyone else has to spend so long thinking.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dunno who you're playing with, but I'm sorry to hear they're so slow at thinking.
            The group I DM for does their consideration during other players turns, so by the time theirs comes around they know what to do and do it. Combat is typically pretty snappy.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Apparently form the get go this time, unlike dos2 where you needed to complete act 1 before the slapped a nexus mod to the DE and falsely claimed they are generous.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >and falsely claimed they are generous.
        I assume you have evidence and aren't talking out of your ass
        Right anon?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Edit
          Now that discarded companions don't die after act 1, merc team is the way to go, as origins will patiently wait at camp to text you with their cuck tales before your goyim ve'tahv goes back to sleep, oy vey.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm that idiot who sucks at thinking of builds and will refuse weird combinations out of principle, so single class Paladin or Cleric it is.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good choice. Multiclassing delays growth in the main class so should be avoided without a plan. Paladins and Clerics don't get much benefit from Feats so you can confidently choose to simply increase your Strength or Wisdom respectively.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Wood elf
    >Ranger
    Yep, its gaming time!

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone tried all weapons? Tridents, pikes and maces any good? Is bludgeoning still the best damage type?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tridents can now rush (attack with free move),cripple and bleed targets once each per short rest so at least they're better than Spears than can only rush.

      Pikes rush, bleed and get to reroll damage once each per short rest. They're fine I guess. Still no Polearm Master so they're not as good as they could be.

      Maces can daze but Morningstars can as well plus some chest smashing attack that I don't know what it does. Plus D8 (piercing) damage instead of D6. Or warhammers which are just a D8 mace. Maces are still just a weapon for clerics without martial weapon proficiency to use.

      Damage type hardly matters. Bludgeoning is just the favorite because it's good against skeletons (which you fight at level 2) while the other damage types have very, very rare differences which don't come up in BG3.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >which don't come up in BG3
        Doesn't really come up in 5e either unless you're using unofficial rule modification books. Guess that makes it pretty accurate.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Polearm master was confirmed on Friday along other feats. They only introduced 20 new spells in that update, hope more a on the way.
        That's what I thought, they pretty much abandoned it. Skeletons shouldn't be worthy enemy anyway.
        Your favourite weapon so far?

        >and falsely claimed they are generous.
        I assume you have evidence and aren't talking out of your ass
        Right anon?

        I don't have a screen ap to spoonfeed you bratty American, but I got that reply 2y ago on the larian forums. Goftbag like early magic mirror was originally a nexus mod. Others, too. Not sure if all bags were on nexus, majority was iirc.
        Or do you mean custom team from the start? That was confirmed together with rolling stats. Back then custom tavs (lol, larian discovered israelites) ought to have some personality. I'm sure they scrapped that part though.

        >which don't come up in BG3
        Doesn't really come up in 5e either unless you're using unofficial rule modification books. Guess that makes it pretty accurate.

        Damage types?

        Other multiclasses:
        Paladin goes with anything front loaded (fighter, monk) or full caster for tons of smites.
        Others are usually using the same stat, like ranger druid or barb +fighter/rogue.

        Gimping choices are barb and caster and mixed casters like druid cleric.

        All in all most combos are mostly flav, some combos like thief + martial or pallock are broken.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          very unbased ESL anon

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            More like typos...

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >completely missing the point of two entire posts was just typos

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Your favourite weapon so far?
          Just dual wielding a shortsword and a scimitar.

          Two weapon fighting is better than other weapons before level five and just as good at level 5.

          Once Polearm Master is in I'll probably use a Spear and Shield since the Duelist Fighting style add a flat +2 damage to all attacks including the extra bonus action attack. Making two D6+5 attacks plus an extra D4+5 attack and maybe another D6+5 attack if an enemy walks into range on their turn while also holding a shield is just super neato.

          If they flub Polearm Master somehow then Crossbow Expert to get an extra attack with Hand Crossbows.

          If they mess Crossbow Expert up as well then I don't know. Wait for mods, I guess.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thief and dual hand crossbow is ridiculously op.
            Wonder if they will nerf it.

            Are there any mods you recommend?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Duelist works with shield in bg3?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Don't know. The description suggests it doesn't but online discussion says it does but I can't be bothered to make a character to find out. I'll just hope those online people are correct and stay correct.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                When you start after release just pick human first to browse feats.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Looks like Variant Human won't be in so no bonus feat.

                Though I'm sure people will make a mod for that, eventually. But I don't like modding new games because of all the patches potentially clashing with mods.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah damn, I forgot. There are two humans. Curious if they allowing rolling for stats and how they implement it. On the ps blog there's a tieflings with 17 dex on lvl1.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty sure you can already manually assign stats. There isn't an in game roller AFAIK but you can roll it yourself easily.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah damn, I forgot. There are two humans. Curious if they allowing rolling for stats and how they implement it. On the ps blog there's a tieflings with 17 dex on lvl1.

                Pretty sure you can already manually assign stats. There isn't an in game roller AFAIK but you can roll it yourself easily.

                Also keep in mind, anons, that both races and SUBRACES have reactivity in-game. For example, I can bet any money that Zariel Tiefling will have a ton of unique content, since she's a huge part of the storyline of the prequel adventure module and the Minsc comics.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Also keep in mind, anons, that both races and SUBRACES have reactivity in-game.
                No they dont.

                >or example, I can bet any money that Zariel Tiefling will have a ton of unique content, since she's a huge part of the storyline of the prequel adventure module and the Minsc comics.
                You having 5 extra lines in the game is not "reactivity" you moronic shill.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No they dont.
                Yes they do. Half-Drow, for example.

                >you moronic shill
                Why are you even here?

                because they literally said the cap is 12 like 3 days ago when they did the blog.
                >no incentive
                To use this system they just spend 5 years fleshing out? Why would you make a 5e homebrew system for one game? You can reuse spells effects and shit but OS3 isn't going to use concentration, reaction system etc

                >To use this system they just spend 5 years fleshing out? Why would you make a 5e homebrew system for one game? You can reuse spells effects and shit but OS3 isn't going to use concentration, reaction system etc
                They already confirmed a sequel.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes they do.
                No they dont and I already explained to you why.

                >Why are you even here?
                because youre a shill lying to people about shit that isnt in the game.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                There is ''Story Mode'' for people that want varian human. I mean if you need a crutch to play the game you might as well play on easy LMAO!

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >All those different Dragonborn you can be
                >No Wild elves
                reeeeeeeee, I know they aren't in 5e, but I want more elves, I also want them to differentiate between Sun elves and Moon elves

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                As a moon elf I don't mind. Moon elves are mechanically the same as sun elves and they have separate options for each so I'm happy.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >browse feats
                Variant Humans don't exist, unless they just didn't advertise the race sheet. I honestly think it will be an option at launch, it will just be listed under Human to take the +1 to all or feat at start.

                Don't know. The description suggests it doesn't but online discussion says it does but I can't be bothered to make a character to find out. I'll just hope those online people are correct and stay correct.

                I used Cheat Engine to test, and yes 1H weapon+Shield still gives the +2 from dueling

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Isn't it +3 to stats and feat vs +1 to all?

                Cheat engine from nexus?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Its +1 to TWO different stats of choices, a skill you choose you become proficient in, and a feat. Its ridiculously better than +1 to all. I just Cheat Engine from, Cheat engine. Hell any mod would work as long as you can spawn/get in a 1H weapon and shield at the start and wack something. You could just use basket full of equipment, loot a spear and shield from it, and go hit an imp.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Two +1s and a Feat.

                Though they made the Ability Score Increase that you get from leveling a Feat as well so they'll probably have to fenangle it so you can't get a +3 to one stat at level 1.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >at launch
                Hate to break it to you, but Larian already confirmed in an interview this year the game will be feature complete - no additional DLCs/content patches are planned.
                They have a sequel to make, after all.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/wu4x94/no_dlc_for_bg3/

                Here's the proof. Couldn't be more straightforward.

                >No, there are no DLC planned.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >at launch
                Hate to break it to you, but Larian already confirmed in an interview this year the game will be feature complete - no additional DLCs/content patches are planned.
                They have a sequel to make, after all.

                "planned" They are putting it all into launch then what comes after is in the air. The same post said level cap is 10.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                1.And what makes you think that's not the level cap?
                2. Larian has no incentive to churn out DLC. As stated above, they already said there'll be a sequel.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >And what makes you think that's not the level cap?
                The showed off Otto's Irresistible Dance which you can't get till level 11.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                because they literally said the cap is 12 like 3 days ago when they did the blog.
                >no incentive
                To use this system they just spend 5 years fleshing out? Why would you make a 5e homebrew system for one game? You can reuse spells effects and shit but OS3 isn't going to use concentration, reaction system etc

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                They will have to add new classes to bg4. Think about it.
                They might release them on the go for bg3.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >They will have to add new classes to bg4.
                They already have all 5th Edition classes except the Artificer. If anything, they'll add some new subclasses, and even that's iffy, since you'll be simply importing your save game.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >They already have all 5th Edition classes
                All the 2014 5e classes. Next year WotC plans to release a revision of the system and unless they change their mind at the last second they're already making some hefty changes to a lot of classes in the playtest material.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, they said outright "no DLCs". How much of a clear answer do you need? No "we're thinking about it" or "we're open to the idea". Just a plain NO.
                And I applaud them for that. We've had 15 years of that "wait until all the content DLCs are out" bullshit. What was the last AAA RPG that came out feature complete? KOTOR?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Updates like DE aren't dlc. I'm ready to bet that we will get more content of one form or another on the road and likely for free.

                >Halsin is confirmed.
                No, no he isn't. Point me to an actual source.

                Bg3 plebbit everyone is talking about it. The only actual research I do is multiclassing, hence the thread.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Updates like DE aren't dlc. I'm ready to bet that we will get more content of one form or another on the road and likely for free.

                What don't you get about "the game will be feature complete on release?" They're not going the Owlcat route of "release a half finished game, and then spend the next two years on DLCs, DEs, and content patches." That was the whole point of the long development cycle. They made it clear in multiple interviews - the game will be done on release.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You don't understand. Classes in BG3 are more than just what they can do in combat and what skills they have. They have reactivity to them, by npcs and companions, which isn't as easy to implement, as a class in a game like Kingmaker or Wrath. Implementing new classes to BG3 will take a lot of time, unless Larian decides to make them less immersive and reactive, which I doubt, since they have no reason to do.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I do understand. I don't believe there won't be any update until bg4. I can live fine with it, sure.
                I don't think that will be the case. I can be wrong, sure.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                My point was that they can't just port the classes from a BG4 (if they're even working on one), because it requires a lot of work on BG3. This work required is work away from BG4.

                I won't claim the chance is zero though, because Swen is ultimately the one who decides and he hasn't really been dictated by money for his decisions.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not all obvs. But if the bring 30 new subclasses, 2 or so come to bg3. Bg4 is likely I conception phase for a while now. Do you think wotc and 10c let sven decide after 6m sales in wa alone?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I do understand. I don't believe there won't be any update until bg4. I can live fine with it, sure.
                I don't think that will be the case. I can be wrong, sure.

                Also... which class? Only Artificer is left, and that would require probably another 2 years of development, since he'd have to have his own unique content + introducing mechanisms/technology as actual game assets/mechanics.

                It seems Larian is performing an experiment - take a long development cycle, make a game feature complete, and see the results. Hopefully it'll sell like hotcakes, since I'm honestly sick and tired of waiting several years post release for a game to be 'done."

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                By the by, nobody pointed it out, but thanks to "Circle of the Land" Druids we know exactly which environments will be present in-game:

                Arctic: Hold Person Icon.png Hold Person, Spike Growth Icon.png Spike Growth

                Coast: Mirror Image Icon.png Mirror Image, Misty Step Icon.png Misty Step

                Desert: Blur Icon.png Blur, Silence Icon.png Silence

                Forest: Barkskin Icon.png Barkskin, Hold Person Icon.png Hold Person

                Grassland: Invisibility Icon.png Invisibility, Pass Without Trace Icon.png Pass Without Trace

                Mountain: Mirror Image Icon.png Mirror Image, Spike Growth Icon.png Spike Growth

                Swamp: Melf Acid Arrow.png Melf's Acid Arrow, Darkness Icon.png Darkness

                Underdark: Web Icon.png Web, Misty Step Icon.png Misty Step

                The "arctic" one is especially interesting to me, since the region around Baldur's Gate doesn't have such environments - unless there's a change of seasons in-game, and we get an actual winter.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >nobody pointed it out, but thanks to "Circle of the Land" Druids we know exactly which environments will be present in-game
                Nobody pointed it out because Circle of the Land doesn't need to be into an environment to select it. It's a neat flavorful detail and nothing more.
                It's not like the Ranger's Natural Explorer feature (thankfully changed from the tabletop version into something useful), that feature could've actually given some solid hints about the type of terrains.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I would agree with you, if not for the existence of extremely specific environments like "Coastal". If this was just for flavour, you'd think we would get more exotic ones, like "Jungle".

                So no, I think those are all in-game environments.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Subclasses then. IMHO there are way more classes in dnd, might be wrong though.

                Rather this then day one edition.

                By the by, nobody pointed it out, but thanks to "Circle of the Land" Druids we know exactly which environments will be present in-game:

                Arctic: Hold Person Icon.png Hold Person, Spike Growth Icon.png Spike Growth

                Coast: Mirror Image Icon.png Mirror Image, Misty Step Icon.png Misty Step

                Desert: Blur Icon.png Blur, Silence Icon.png Silence

                Forest: Barkskin Icon.png Barkskin, Hold Person Icon.png Hold Person

                Grassland: Invisibility Icon.png Invisibility, Pass Without Trace Icon.png Pass Without Trace

                Mountain: Mirror Image Icon.png Mirror Image, Spike Growth Icon.png Spike Growth

                Swamp: Melf Acid Arrow.png Melf's Acid Arrow, Darkness Icon.png Darkness

                Underdark: Web Icon.png Web, Misty Step Icon.png Misty Step

                The "arctic" one is especially interesting to me, since the region around Baldur's Gate doesn't have such environments - unless there's a change of seasons in-game, and we get an actual winter.

                Where did you find that? What follows if we travel in desert vs arctic?

                What do you think of 6 ranger, 2 fighter, 4 monk?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not in 5th Edition. BG3 has all the classes except Artificer.

                >Where did you find that?
                When you play a Druid of the Land, you choose a specialized environment connected to you.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Really? All the others are subclasses then? OK... Didn't know.

                Ah, you played the ea?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I dunno reading any remotely recent news?

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    How faithful to the pnp is this game? Is gloomstalker / assassin a viable build still?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      More faithful than previous games, less faithful than solasta.
      Take that as you will.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      We don't have the specifics before Friday, but it'll be likely among the very best multiclass es. Certainly to op for normal.

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    One thing that pissed me off about the beta was the weapons all doing the same damage :
    - 1h small weapon does 1d4
    - 1h medium 1d6/8
    - 2h 1d10
    It's not a big deal but this uniformity reeks of lazy, and its even worse considering its a quadruple A game.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is a weakness of the 5th edition ruleset. They made the most mass marketable D&D edition ever and in the process, as always, removed anything remotely interesting from the game.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ah, so it's a PnP thing of 5E ? i never played it as i stayed with 3.57/PF2nd for the most part.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I believe there are minor changes, like g. Axe 1d12 and g. Sword 2d6 aso. But yeah, damage output of weapons is a ridiculous.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You can keep crying about it or go browse some other threads. Really tired of hearing same people whine about other people who discuss about this game.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You can keep crying about it or go browse some other threads
      You can keep crying about it or go to reddit.

      >Really tired of hearing same people whine about other people who discuss about this game
      Reddit really loves BG3.
      They also pay their jannies in hotpockets.

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I don't post on v/termin and you only quoted me 4 times.
    Are you the same shizo from above?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you only quoted me 4 times
      Yes we know you are a samegayging shill.

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >top wiki is already fextralife
    eeew, how the frick is that atrocious website always at the top of search engines

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Let's see:

    >Karlach - Barbarian
    >Minsc - Ranger
    >Jaheira - Druid
    >Shadowheart - Cleric
    >Astarion - Rogue
    >Wyll - Warlock
    >Gale - Wizard
    >Lae'zel - Fighter

    Maybe:
    >Minthara - Paladin
    >Halsin - Druid #2 (?)

    So we're missing a bard, monk, sorcerer, and maybe a paladin if Minthara doesn't pan out.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Minthara is the bad drow domina, isn't she? How's she a paladin?
      Halsin is confirmed and obvs druid and Friday we get a new origin. Dragonborn monk?

      There is ''Story Mode'' for people that want varian human. I mean if you need a crutch to play the game you might as well play on easy LMAO!

      If the balance it like wotr by owlcucks I will switch hard story hard again. As encounter variety for these fricks means crystallizer demon ogres riding bisexual centipede tieflings made of vulcanic mithril.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >How's she a paladin?
        They basically merged paladins and anti-paladins into one archetype - a holy warrior of a given faith, no matter its tenets.

        >Halsin is confirmed and obvs druid
        Jaheira is a confirmed companion, so I'm iffy on Halsin, since that would make Druid a class that has two companions - and the only class to do so. So either he's out, or else Larian is holding back a shit ton of companions.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Gay. Subclasses to. Pigeonhole builds a lot.
          5e is cancer. Almost as thac0 is cancer.

          Halsin is confirmed. Due to popularity and sven being a friendly paladin 2/eldritch knight 9.

          If you can use shields and can't use anything better than a quarterstaff, then yes there's little reason to use one without the other.

          Good to know. In rl such a staff is borderline useless with a big ass shield. Shield has no Str needed in bg3 so far, right?

          explain to me the whole Early Access to Act 1 thing, shills.
          sucked some mean wieners for money, pirates bg3, kinda fun, would preorder.

          You get 3 days before release the full version, but can't advance in act 2 and honestly, you won't anyway.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Halsin is confirmed.
            No, no he isn't. Point me to an actual source.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous
              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                So why the frick would anyone play as Druid, seeing as you have TWO companions with that class?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                To feel in good company.
                Are you saying that you wouldn't play Fighter and make a Fighter only party if you had the option?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm heterosexual, so no.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >He doesn't make a single class themed party

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I only do that. Crossbow gang, 2h pistol for all, natures band of blossoms, drow wizard party of 6 aso...

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                whos the other druid?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Halsin. Which makes me think there are other "non-Origin" companions in-game, since it's very unlike Larian to duplicate a single class.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Jaheira. Unless they make her a ranger, in which case what the frick do you do with Minsc.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You don't take everyone with you, you can take only 4. The others will stay in your camp.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >we know you want to romance jason isaacs
                >like a steamy vampire and hunky druid
                >ask us about THAT halsin scene
                Every fricking time they reference romances it's gay shit. Disgusting.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              See? Say thank you, spoon fed kun to sauce San.

              What class and combo would give the most options for a gish type playstyle?
              I want to do martial things like swing a greatsword and frick shit up. I also want to cast some spells like maybe create water to set up sick combos with ice or lightning with another arcane party member, or cast mirror image, shield, or invisibility for defense.

              Is Eldritch knight worth using? the spell progression is so slow and never gets fireball.
              Hexblade would have been perfect but it's not in.
              War cleric? it does get extra attacks(with bonus action use) but that only seems a level 1-4 thing because at level 5+ i get cantrip progression which would be better and spirit weapon and spirit guardian.
              is what I want undoable?

              Have you read

              Polearm master was confirmed on Friday along other feats. They only introduced 20 new spells in that update, hope more a on the way.
              That's what I thought, they pretty much abandoned it. Skeletons shouldn't be worthy enemy anyway.
              Your favourite weapon so far?

              [...]
              I don't have a screen ap to spoonfeed you bratty American, but I got that reply 2y ago on the larian forums. Goftbag like early magic mirror was originally a nexus mod. Others, too. Not sure if all bags were on nexus, majority was iirc.
              Or do you mean custom team from the start? That was confirmed together with rolling stats. Back then custom tavs (lol, larian discovered israelites) ought to have some personality. I'm sure they scrapped that part though.

              [...]
              Damage types?

              Other multiclasses:
              Paladin goes with anything front loaded (fighter, monk) or full caster for tons of smites.
              Others are usually using the same stat, like ranger druid or barb +fighter/rogue.

              Gimping choices are barb and caster and mixed casters like druid cleric.

              All in all most combos are mostly flav, some combos like thief + martial or pallock are broken.

              You have to answer questions first: heavy armour or dex? Magic cc or damage or buffs? Extra attack? 2 or DW?
              Ek as it is know is only flavour, as shield, booming blade and everything else this bad subclass needs is not anmohnced/confirmed.
              Clerics don't need multiclass, bards neither.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                what would a damage oriented cleric look like?
                I'd want to use my concentration on spirit weapon or spirit guardians I'm assuming?
                could i do a str based cleric pick up Great weapon Master and use duplicity to give me advantage on attack rolls?

                Im not really bothered by a dex or str build i just want to be able to fight in the frontlines or do cool shit in the backlines from time to time.

                how about bard what would they do? I remember seeing them doing some hand crossbow type stuff but i never thought that looked too cool tbh.. maybe if im trying to be some type of han solo/indiana jones in dnd type thing.

                is sword bard any good?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sword bard is a machine. With 2 lvl in fighter barb you can dual wield anything into oblivion, and you are a full caster in medium/heavy armor.

                Cleric has 100 builds, really.

                You suggestion is viable.

                Crossbow dual wield with 3 or 5 lvl if rogue is among the highest single target dps per attack.

                I Diana Jones, ey? Then either bard or eldritch knight or multiclass either of them.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                2hand* obviously I was referring to great weapons

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Sword bard is a machine. With 2 lvl in fighter barb you can dual wield anything into oblivion, and you are a full caster in medium/heavy armor.

                Can you do a per level until level 5 atleast?
                is it level 1 bard then 2 levels in fighter/barb and go back into bard?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You only need barb or fighter for proficiencies like armour, second wind aso, as sword gets the extra attack on lvl 6 and is a full caster. Max charisma with asi and put 13+ into str/con or dex is you are into finesse weapons.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                thank you boss! looking forward to trying this out!

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    In 5e you can use quarterstaff with shield...?
    Or can you switch via button from 1h to 2h?
    The only difference are like 2 damage points? In that case shield is the clear winner.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you can use shields and can't use anything better than a quarterstaff, then yes there's little reason to use one without the other.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      At least in BG3 there are bunch of weapons you can use either as two handed or one handed. Quarterstaffa are one of those weapon types. I don't know how things are in the pen and paper but from what i understand there are differences between BG3 and the pen and paper on many occasions.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Idk either, IMHO it's the same in 5e. They bundled weapons into 1h, versatile (only with feat usable dual wield) and 2h weapons (only diablo 2 barbarian can dual wield those).

        I mightve changed my mind and will likely triple class, if I can find 4 good combos.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The 5e quarterstaff doesn't have topple.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's true. Was referring to versatile.
            IMHO the modals are partly from. Dos, partly from. OneDnD.

            >Updates like DE aren't dlc. I'm ready to bet that we will get more content of one form or another on the road and likely for free.

            What don't you get about "the game will be feature complete on release?" They're not going the Owlcat route of "release a half finished game, and then spend the next two years on DLCs, DEs, and content patches." That was the whole point of the long development cycle. They made it clear in multiple interviews - the game will be done on release.

            Oh boy, are you a boomer or smth?

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >bg3.wiki
    Wasn't aware this was a thing until now. Yikes.

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    explain to me the whole Early Access to Act 1 thing, shills.
    sucked some mean wieners for money, pirates bg3, kinda fun, would preorder.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What class and combo would give the most options for a gish type playstyle?
    I want to do martial things like swing a greatsword and frick shit up. I also want to cast some spells like maybe create water to set up sick combos with ice or lightning with another arcane party member, or cast mirror image, shield, or invisibility for defense.

    Is Eldritch knight worth using? the spell progression is so slow and never gets fireball.
    Hexblade would have been perfect but it's not in.
    War cleric? it does get extra attacks(with bonus action use) but that only seems a level 1-4 thing because at level 5+ i get cantrip progression which would be better and spirit weapon and spirit guardian.
    is what I want undoable?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm thinking of going War Cleric. Not the best melee, but I'll get access to level 6 spells.

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want to fall asleep and not wake up until the release.

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    How are they going to make Jaheira and Halsin different?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jaheira is multiclass.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is a terrible idea in 5e, though

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I know, but she's a Fighter/Druid in the game files either way. Unless they'll do a Karlach and switch her up on release.

          If that is the case, I wouldn't mind if she got a unique Druid archetype, maybe a Harper?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Harpers arent exclusively druids you shitskin-mongrel.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The only issue with a Fighter/Druid multiclass is metal armor being forbidden for druids, but they can change the rules for BG3 if they want to.

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Wrong
    Prove it then Black person.
    Whats reactivity to your race-choice apart from 5 lines strawn through out the whole game?

    Oh right, there isnt any.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Insane lunatic. Expect me to post 500 screenshot?
      The game has more than quadruple the lines in English than bg2 has in all lamguageswith combined, and 3 has fewer companions than 2. 170h dialogue is quite large. Every other reaction is (sub) class or (sub) race. You insect, you crawling disgrace.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Insane lunatic. Expect me to post 500 screenshot?
        Its telling that you couldn't even post 5.

        >It has a lot of writing that means it exists
        Am I talking to a legitmate moron?

        >You insect, you crawling disgrace.
        You are the one who is making up shit out of nowhere, you absolute subhuman. You soulless degenerate who is oozing dishonesty to his fellow men.
        In exchange for what actually? Do you at least get paid for making this shit up?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Bc I only watched playthrough here and there and in 1h there were easily 5. Do you really think I will look them up and post them here for like all races?

          Clearly basis stats overwhelms you, done with your meme brain.

          >It's actually stupid that Wyll gets a story for it's patron and the protag doesn't.
          Because the game is about the writers OCs and not you.

          100%

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Clearly basis stats overwhelms you, done with your meme brain.
            Black person, what is wrong with your brain? Do you have some sort of Zoomer-Autism where whenever someone states a mild criticism your knee-jerk reaction is to defend [PRODUCT] mindlessly?

            I already told you, that references to your race sprinkled throughout the game here and there arent reacitivity.
            You said its there. You go far to sperg out about how its there.

            So provide some fricking examples or you're full of shit, you mindless fandrone.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I already told you, that references to your race sprinkled throughout the game here and there arent reacitivity
              Tpdau my reading comprehension isn't really worth mentioning.
              I didn't register that.
              In that case I agree. It's often like:
              >oh, you are x, hence text for x...
              And x is never mentioned again. It do be like that in most cases, sure. Main reason is that the cuckold team shits on our product experience and are living their wild west fetishes to the fullest.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            why is being called a cuck an honour?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Indoctrinated

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Here you go, cretin. From their own Steam page.

          >The third Dwarf subrace will be playable at launch, adding a stoic and subterranean cousin to the dwarven family tree. We’ve also added a ton of reactivity around these characters, with over 200 new dialogue responses tailored to Duergar-kind.

          And that's for one SUB-RACE. Now frick off.

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm opting for Warlock for my 1st time, probably GOO or maybe Fiend. It's the only class I miss, when playing the Pathfinder vidyas.

    Kind of unrelated with the thread, but can some kind anon enlighten me on Shadowheart's and Minthara's romances (since Lae'zel is ugly as sin plus I haven't heard anything good about hers)?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't warlock defacto witch/hag?

      thank you boss! looking forward to trying this out!

      You will be an unstoppable machine.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Isn't warlock defacto witch/hag?
        No, Warlock is more akin to Kineticist mechanically, only of a much different flavour when it comes to explaining their powers.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          ? Kineticist controls energy elements with his mind/body. Warlock and witch have a patron and are arcane casters. They both use established spells like magic missile, melfs, aso. Kineticist just go brrr without his attacks bearing names of actual arch mages.
          Eldritch blast has eldritch in its name, indicating an occult power behind it's pact. Same as witch and patron in Pf.

          >Kind of unrelated with the thread, but can some kind anon enlighten me on Shadowheart's and Minthara's romances (since Lae'zel is ugly as sin plus I haven't heard anything good about hers)?
          Shadowheart is currently only romanceable on the good route, you drink some wine with her and share a chaste kiss, it doesn't go further than that.
          MIntharra is only currently only romanceable on the evil route, after you slaughter some druids and refugees, she proposes sex to celebrate. She doms you, unless you pass an intimidation check so you can dom her. She then tries to kill you post-coitus because her dark god told her so, but you can easily persuade her not to.

          The do part is real? And the others are watching? I saw no sleeping tents in the camp.

          [...]

          There's still also the first shortstack romance in the form of Helia, but we know frick all about her right now, since she's been redone completely at least once, from a gnomish druid to a halfling bard.

          Shouldn't short women bowdown to larger males?

          Will Swen have the balls to put SFM halfling porn in the game? We'll find out in a month.

          Already there.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's kind of like a mix of Kineticist (like the other anon said) and Witch with more ability-based patrons and with CHA as your casting stat.

        >Kind of unrelated with the thread, but can some kind anon enlighten me on Shadowheart's and Minthara's romances (since Lae'zel is ugly as sin plus I haven't heard anything good about hers)?
        Shadowheart is currently only romanceable on the good route, you drink some wine with her and share a chaste kiss, it doesn't go further than that.
        MIntharra is only currently only romanceable on the evil route, after you slaughter some druids and refugees, she proposes sex to celebrate. She doms you, unless you pass an intimidation check so you can dom her. She then tries to kill you post-coitus because her dark god told her so, but you can easily persuade her not to.

        Poor options in number do far. I hope they either introduce more, or crank up the quality and depth of the existing ones. Interesting that it doesn't have a Human one yet.

        [...]

        There's still also the first shortstack romance in the form of Helia, but we know frick all about her right now, since she's been redone completely at least once, from a gnomish druid to a halfling bard.

        >Halfling bard
        So a romanceable Linzi from KM? Damn. Will they be bold enough to go with that? For moronic reasons, you don't see female Halfling or Dwarf romances in vrpgs.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I really don't see how warlock is a kineticist. His powers come solely from a being from another plane, right?

          Yeah, no human is lame. Even dos had lohse and ifan.

          Pretty sure that all the races can frick each oyher, which is disgusting.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Mechanic-wise, the Kineticist gains a cantrip-like ranged touch attack (although it's like elemental energy instead of mystical/arcane one -think ATLA's benders) at first level that he can customize and empower as the levels progress. He can even exert himself to empower his blasts by taking CON damage. He is purely a striker.
            Thematic/Flavor-wise though he is very different to the Warlock, and that's where the Witch and her patrons come (though, again, not as in-depth as the lock's).

            So as you can see, not quite there in both mechanics and flavor

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, I see where you are coming from.
              Calling kinetic blast a cantrip is... Unsettling.

              Curious how much stuff larian will add to the subclasses. They kinda have to, as the levels before 14 don't do that much for most subclasses. So far they did a (somewhat) good job.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Kind of unrelated with the thread, but can some kind anon enlighten me on Shadowheart's and Minthara's romances (since Lae'zel is ugly as sin plus I haven't heard anything good about hers)?
      Shadowheart is currently only romanceable on the good route, you drink some wine with her and share a chaste kiss, it doesn't go further than that.
      MIntharra is only currently only romanceable on the evil route, after you slaughter some druids and refugees, she proposes sex to celebrate. She doms you, unless you pass an intimidation check so you can dom her. She then tries to kill you post-coitus because her dark god told her so, but you can easily persuade her not to.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm opting for Warlock for my 1st time, probably GOO or maybe Fiend. It's the only class I miss, when playing the Pathfinder vidyas.

        Kind of unrelated with the thread, but can some kind anon enlighten me on Shadowheart's and Minthara's romances (since Lae'zel is ugly as sin plus I haven't heard anything good about hers)?

        There's still also the first shortstack romance in the form of Helia, but we know frick all about her right now, since she's been redone completely at least once, from a gnomish druid to a halfling bard.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Will Swen have the balls to put SFM halfling porn in the game? We'll find out in a month.

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i lost all interest in my kineticist playthrough a while ago, very boring class

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bc it's way to op. Easily solo on hard in either game of the two.
      Had a custom team in wotr and the kineticist was doing the job as the others usually did 0 damage or buff the kineticist, while he went with 300+ damage per round.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bc it's way to op. Easily solo on hard in either game of the two.
      Had a custom team in wotr and the kineticist was doing the job as the others usually did 0 damage or buff the kineticist, while he went with 300+ damage per round.

      True, and that's why I personally prefer the Warlock more than the Kineticist. Because the former has also the flavor and tools to spice things up.

      Sure you can do various shenanigans with the Kineticist as well and sure each of the four elements is distinct in where it focuses and beautifully designed but, unless I'm playing with an ATLA-based character/team/campaign, the Warlock appeals to me a bit more.

      Maybe it's because I'm playing more PF than DnD and I miss it. Or maybe its cause it's such an iconic and famous class at this point across nerddom.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The only good thing in all of of is primalist. Great class/concept.

        Kineticist is by far the strongest, has little to no flavour to it.

        Warlock/witch is great. It's actually stupid that Wyll gets a story for it's patron and the protag doesn't.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It's actually stupid that Wyll gets a story for it's patron and the protag doesn't.
          Because the game is about the writers OCs and not you.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It's actually stupid that Wyll gets a story for it's patron and the protag doesn't.
          Because the game is about the writers OCs and not you.

          >that Wyll gets a story for it's patron and the protag doesn't

          Do we actually know this is the case? Larian outright said that a bunch of Act I content wasn't added. Maybe patron interactions were one of them?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            We don't. However I doubt one class will have more content than their dear origin.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              They confirmed some patron content.

              I would be surprised it there wasn't any, since it's probably the easiest type of content to add:
              >Limited completely to 1 on 1 interactions between you and the patron.
              >Location doesn't matter, so it's very easy to set up triggers for such interactions.
              >Very limited animations required, since it's basically a dialogue between two participants.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sure, but we will likely never see the patron.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you get to see the Patron, you may simply dislike that no matter what. For example if you choose Fiend you will always get a specific Devil (let's say an Erinyes because why not, it makes coomers happy) and it may not coincide with the Patron you wanted to get ("no, my Fiend patron is actually a Balor!").
                If you don't get to see it and it remains mysterious, you'll have people complaining about being half-assed compared to the oc donut steel companion of yours.

                I personally would love if all the Patrons contact you with esoteric dreams of dubious meaning.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Valid points from either perspective.
                I don't see black boxed text ever happen in bg3.

                Why not?
                >Zariel, or one of her servants, for the Fiend (since she's already heavily involved in the story)
                >Some entity related to the Absolute for the OOG
                >A Fey creture for the Archfey, like a coomer nymph

                Easy peasy.

                As above.

                I'm gonna make a goodie-two shoes young male human paladin and romance Karlach. And he VILL make her happy.

                The only good origin so far

                That's what a tiefling veteran of the Blood War had been waiting for. A normal, regular, young human paladin to settle down with.

                Apparently the tad pole messed with the origins. They were all veterans but got resetted.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why not?
                >Zariel, or one of her servants, for the Fiend (since she's already heavily involved in the story)
                >Some entity related to the Absolute for the OOG
                >A Fey creture for the Archfey, like a coomer nymph

                Easy peasy.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            They confirmed some patron content.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Sure x lines of reactivity.
              Wonder how that will work in custom party. Initially they promised mercs will have content and personality, too.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I highly doubt that.
            They REALLY want you to plas as their special snowflake OCs.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              They do with origin sex slaves.
              Look how plebbit drools over pixel lovers.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just out of curiosity I wanna ask off-topic, what's the best game for one to play a warlock? Both mechanically and flavor-wise. Is it WoW? I never got around to it because it looked to be in a sorry state.
        Anyway, think I might go Archfey because I don't wanna copy Wyll and GOO seems redundant. Will roleplay that I took a pact with a dark Archfey so that the aesthetic isn't totally prancing fairies Feywild

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't wanna copy Wyll
          This one depends on two factors:
          >Do we get an in-game patron?
          >Do we have interactions with it?

          If both are "yes", then it's hardly copying, especially since you can combine Fiend Warlock with playing a Zariel Tiefling, who is almost guaranteed to have the most reactivity out of all Tieflings.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      have you tried not using deadly earth

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        i didn't even make it to unlocking it.

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    maybe i will go some kind of gun class? those in this game?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, gunpowder is forbidden by the gods.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Unless the setting's God is Mercer.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      there is always the sword and shield build which i love.

      Elf race going full lightning mage

      cleric heal bawd

      Assassin obviously

      these are all really bad portraits.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Spic

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not that anon, but are you confused or something? BG3 is really a game where you need custom portraits, nor one where posters are searching for some.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            these homosexuals just like to post their awful ai generated art. insulting it and watching them lash out like they made it themselves is hilarious.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Top kek this Hispanic gets mad as frick that they are unable at understanding basic programs

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, gunpowder is forbidden by the gods.

      Unless the setting's God is Mercer.

      Actually, gunpowder and other technologies haven't spread out due to the activities of the Harpers. I really regret that the general view on them is a generally benign organization, whilst in reality they're much, much more grey in their activities.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Whoa, didn't know. Always hated them since bg2.
        Where to read more about that?
        Dont the artificers use guns?

        >Imoen
        Will she call us a queer fellow?

        I hope so. Minsc iwll likely be bad, esp as mercer/critical role is just plain bad with their burger accent... And honestly their burger approach to everything. Finesse, nuance, settled approach? Nah, big battle axe.

        I'm more interested in that response from Swen that the non-Origin party members can instead be our enemies/adverseries. We already know this is the case for Minathra, but he also confirmed it for Minsc and Jaheira.
        Is this what's going on with Halsin? Will he be exclusive to Jaheira through some story choices shenanigans?
        If yes, it means there's a lot more party members that haven't been revealed.

        Nah, that I don't believe. We have like 8 origins and those four. Already double what they planned/announced 3y ago.

        >All those different Dragonborn you can be
        >No Wild elves
        reeeeeeeee, I know they aren't in 5e, but I want more elves, I also want them to differentiate between Sun elves and Moon elves

        More subclasses would be great. Dragonborn will only have different colours. Don't believe they have 10 models for them.

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    there is always the sword and shield build which i love.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Barbadin

      Elf race going full lightning mage

      Storm sorc sword bard

      cleric heal bawd

      Best bae

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Elf race going full lightning mage

  31. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    cleric heal bawd

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This one is a remake of the female mage from Dragon Age: Origins. And a shit one at that.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, it's kinda bizarre actually. Turned the white hair into a veil. But then there's no hair under the veil.

  32. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Assassin obviously

  33. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Assassin obviously

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      With gloom stalker or fighter or barb or sorceror?

  34. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I will do a Dwarf War Cleric in memory of my Dwarf Fighter/Cleric Bhaalspawn from older Baldur Gates. I would assume, Strength, Wisdom and Constitution are my main stats correct? BTW I do hope this game will allow you to choose who talks because I hear in EA at least you can't do that and it chooses who talks by which character is the closest which was infuriating in DOS2.

    I also plan on doing maybe Dragonborn GOOlock, but I am still unsure about that. I want to do it because being Dragonborn with connection to some eldritch diety sounds fun. But I hear this class of Warlock is objectively the worst for it. I want to actually know how to build this character so it doesn't suck.

  35. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably gonna go Dragonborn Vengeance Paladin.

  36. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably gonna go High Elf Vengeance Paladin.

  37. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm gonna make a goodie-two shoes young male human paladin and romance Karlach. And he VILL make her happy.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's what a tiefling veteran of the Blood War had been waiting for. A normal, regular, young human paladin to settle down with.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Level 1 veteran of the blood war is still fricking absurd to me. Lae'zel is the only character in the entire game who acts her starting level.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Level 1 veteran of the blood war is still fricking absurd to me.
          Why? Even back in the Planescape setting the canon fodder was comprised of low-level demons/devils and hired mercenaries.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Level 1 veteran of the blood war is still fricking absurd to me.
          She's got her levels drained a couple of editions ago and never recovered since.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Level 1 veteran of the blood war is still fricking absurd to me.
          Why? Even back in the Planescape setting the canon fodder was comprised of low-level demons/devils and hired mercenaries.

          >Level 1 veteran of the blood war is still fricking absurd to me.
          She's got her levels drained a couple of editions ago and never recovered since.

          Also "Level 1" in 5th Edition is completely different from "Level 1" in 2nd Edition.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            This

            >Level 1 Mage in 2nd Edition
            >4 Hit Points
            >A Single Spell

            >Level 1 Mage in 5th Edition
            >On average 10 Hit Points
            >Unlimited cantrips, which also hit harder than any spell the Mage may have
            >And 2 casts of Level 1 Spells, which are also more powerful than any spell the Mage may have

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yep and he shall provide many cuddles and emotional support for devil rage device ape outs

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Will she femdom the pally or be tradwaifu?

  38. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    white-man-hating Larian has fallen to using the same tactics as pozcat
    >forget about the setting, characters, story, etc.
    >just talk about spec autism!

    Mushroom druid.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unless Larian buffed it (likely tbh) Mushroom Druid is garbo.

  39. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Question. I know that levels and stats mean something special right? Like a level 1 wizard is a trained wizard and 10 int is normal. So what's a level 10 like the cap? What's 18 int mean?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have no idea what you're even trying to ask but you need to work on your phrasing.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you confusing stats and levels?
        Maybe the site bg3. Wiki helps?

        I think he means lore-wise. Like 20 of a stat makes you incredibly beyond normal

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Then it'd probably goes something like this:
          18 INT: Very smart.
          20 INT: VERY very smart, like... genius smart. Real smart, you know.
          Not very relevant in the context of a video game though. You don't have to roleplay being below or above average intelligence.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            And yes I can't speak good either, blame my 9 INT

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          i think int in older editions was based on iq so like 20 int would be an inhuman intellect honestly, really anything above 16 would be a supergenius

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you confusing stats and levels?
      Maybe the site bg3. Wiki helps?

  40. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably play some fighter/cleric like always

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      No need for fighter in a cleric IMHO. You could take fighter 5 for the extra attack if that's how you roll.

  41. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What difficulty are you mad lads going to play on? Normal as usual? Hard mode to make the game even longer than it already is? Or storymode?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Normal of course, because reloading after having my ass kicked is probably going to be frustrating pretty quickly, and the whole hand-holding of Story Mode is pretty insulting.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Normal, as I don't want their custom rules, like fighter using fireball scroll etc.

      >ranger/druid multiclass
      sneed it or chuck it?

      Subclasses, stats? Beast master moon could be interesting.

      Why would you want it changed? She is the evil route, Shadowheart is the one you can corrupt/uncorrupt from Shar. Changing Minthara so you can dick her as a good guy seems stupid.
      [...]
      You have to give up the location of the druid grove, and also participate on the goblin side killing all the tieflings/druids there.

      Siding with goblins needs a lot of mental gymnastics. Sure, if you go evil/illithid, it's valid.

      Gives advantage in dialog, which is always good. The problem is, although it is quite easy to deal with, is they will accuse you of magically charming you. Same for using the Friends cantrip.

      Do they attack directly after accusation?

      If Gloomstalker is tabletop accurate and they don't change haste a Gloomstalker fighter can attack 9 times without even using bonus actions

      Curious. Gloomstalkter/thief is then like 14 times?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Do they attack directly after accusation?
        I think there is a way to bribe them or persuade them it didn't happen. You can also distance yourself and after some time they will just go back to normal.

        >can attack 9 times
        huh?

        Haste in BG3 gives full actions with no rules. It usually should go
        >Level 5 Fighter, hasted
        >Attack, attack a second time from Extra Attack
        >attack a third time because of Haste limits you to one extra attack
        It is
        >Attack, attack a second time from Extra Attack
        >attack a third time, and then a fourth time because its a full real action from haste

        You can also cast two spells in one turn, which is usually impossible. So yeah, they let you go wild a bit

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe I'll try friends in the game for once.

          Are you telling me that haste gives you an extra attack and an extra turn?
          Curious how they will implement mages and clerics as enemies.

  42. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ranger/druid multiclass
    sneed it or chuck it?

  43. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Create Undead
    do i have to be a Necromancer to use this? i wanted to try Eldritch Knight for the first time ever but summoning skeletons is just too good

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Any class can use it.

  44. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does "Charm" spell have any good non combat uses? I havent played the early access yet but im thinking about Necromancy/Enhancement for my first character

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gives advantage in dialog, which is always good. The problem is, although it is quite easy to deal with, is they will accuse you of magically charming you. Same for using the Friends cantrip.

  45. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If Gloomstalker is tabletop accurate and they don't change haste a Gloomstalker fighter can attack 9 times without even using bonus actions

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >can attack 9 times
      huh?

  46. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    30 fricking days. Ok i'm uninstalling and going to try and stay out of threads, popping in just to check for news, fingers crossed i am fresh for the release. I have my class and race chosen.
    >Shield Dwarf
    >10 DEX for heavy armor only
    >Fighter Two-Weapon Fighting Style
    >Battle Master
    >lvl 4 feat DUAL WIELDER(battle axe in each hand)
    See you 72 hours before release day lads!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Max con or gtfo

      What does it mean for it. For it to be into level the cap. Stats?

      Bg3. Wiki check the website
      Have you ever played a game before

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You sure you don't want to have 17 Str & 17 Con and bump both to 18 at level 4 instead?

      Dual Wielder is neat but more Strength means +1 damage and +1 accuracy instead of DW's +1 average damage and +1 armor. Also the Con boost helps. Plus you can already use handaxes, anyway.

      In the end it doesn't matter, I guess. You'll have both 20 Str and Dual Wielder by level 8.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You sure you don't want to have 17 Str & 17 Con and bump both to 18 at level 4 instead?

      Dual Wielder is neat but more Strength means +1 damage and +1 accuracy instead of DW's +1 average damage and +1 armor. Also the Con boost helps. Plus you can already use handaxes, anyway.

      In the end it doesn't matter, I guess. You'll have both 20 Str and Dual Wielder by level 8.

      BTW would Dwarf War Cleric with Dual Wield be good? I was thinking of Dual wielding flails or warhammers.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Only if you get feats and fighting style. No flails so far. Weapon choice should be martial and picked with regard to modals of given weapon. Secondary weapon can be any.

        The motivation for going to to the goblin camp in the first place is to find Halsin, who you are told might be able to help you, and by the time you find out he can't help you've already chosen a side. The script could do a better job of tempting your character into performing evil acts by explicitly promising you things and actually delivering, but it doesn't. As it stands you're simply told what to do but they don't properly motivate you to do it, you must simply obey. The way things are currently set up only really works for Drow characters.

        True

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dwarves get free prof with Battleaxes and Warhammers.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dual weapon fighting style? IMHO only martial classes get it

  47. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What does it mean for it. For it to be into level the cap. Stats?

  48. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    So if I buy BG3 the day before early full access begins, do I get that? Something about how you have access to the "full" act 1 3 days before everyone else does?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, 31st July you can start a new playthrough with the final patch.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cool, thanks

  49. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just setting the record straight for all of you EA chuds who cannot stop talking about your 3-day advance.

    You are nothing more than lowborn soldiers sent on the frontline to die and soften the enemy's morale, while noble knights such as I observe the battlefield from a safe distance and swoop in when it's become clear the battle needs a hero to save the day.

    So enjoy your "privilege" to beta-test the game for me for any last minute patch-up while I take a relaxing nap. I'll see you on Aug 3, peasants.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't intend on playing on Day 1.

      1. It's too fricking hot where I live, so I don't want to spoil the experience. I'll wait a month so it gets cooler.
      2. It's almost guaranteed there will be some intensive initial patching.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Patching 100%
        Replaying dos2 rn. Boy, there still plenty of broken quests.

  50. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Glyph of warding is the most broken spell in the game is sleeps all enemies in a large radius for 2 turns
    allowing you set up and to auto crit them and it doesn't even use concentration

  51. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >lawful good
    >white male
    >devotion paladin
    >Total Origin Character Death

    Yup, it’s gaming time.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Lawful Good

      At least know the basics of the game before you start spamming this shit. There are no alignments in the game.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not officially, but informally that doesn't stop most players from having one in mind when they customize a character. And obviously not the most boring LG Paladin archetype player.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          If anything, it's the Backgrounds/Inspirations combination which encourage you to play as a certain type of character. Class reactivity comes in second, with the exception of Clerics.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            When I first heard of bg3, I wanted to rp a lloth paladin duergar. Guess that's not allowed in dnd.

  52. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can already imagine the kwetching from people who played the EA when it turns out Larian reduced the available good by 2/3 in order to stop rest spamming.
    They've already confirmed they made it artificially abundant.
    I also hope there'll be more story/quest penalties for resting too much than what is already present.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Really curious if they fix resting - doubt it.

  53. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >female
    >drow
    >Lore Bard
    >wife shadowheart

  54. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want to start as a bard so I can pick out all the skills and proficiencies I want, then take two levels of warlock for eldritch blast+agonizing blast+darkvision, then back to bard for the rest of the game. I don't know if this is going to be screwing myself but I feel like on normal difficulty it probably won't matter. Am I making a mistake?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well it'll meant hat you won't have access to level 6 spells that you get at level 11 and you miss the Ability Score Improvement/Feat at level 12. But if they're not that interesting to you then you're fine.

      Frankly I don't think Bard's level 6 spells are that great compared to what they can already cast. Not like Wizards and such.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I am completely uninitiated so I don't fully understand what sixth level spells a bard would be missing out on, I was just thinking since I want to stack a ton of charisma anyways I might as well take the eldritch blast fun button and be able to pick human and still have darkvision.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Won't miss out on much. Have a look at their spell lists if you want (and click the 6th Level spell tab at the top).

          http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/spells:bard
          http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/spells:wizard

          Simply no contest. Bards get more fun spells on earlier levels.

          Of course, we don't know all the spells that'll be included on release so those lists can't be used to plan anything concrete.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        > and you miss the Ability Score Improvement/Feat at level 12.
        Considering this also happens to be the level cap, doesn't this encourage dipping in the first place?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          You only loose if you dip under 4 levels. Multiclassing can still outclass single class if you know what you are doing.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      ...why?
      1. Take a race that already has darkvision.
      2. Take the "Warloc Apprentice" Feat and pick eldritch blast as one of the cantrips.

      You'll only miss out on Agonizing Blast, instead of two full levels.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Agonizing Blast is the main part, though.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Multiclassing is all the fun. And character building is really half the fun.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          5th Edition DnD doesn't encourage multiclassing, quite the opposite in fact.

          Won't miss out on much. Have a look at their spell lists if you want (and click the 6th Level spell tab at the top).

          http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/spells:bard
          http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/spells:wizard

          Simply no contest. Bards get more fun spells on earlier levels.

          Of course, we don't know all the spells that'll be included on release so those lists can't be used to plan anything concrete.

          What exactly happens in-game when you use "Friends" on someone?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, I saw that. Still possible to make fun/broken/flavour builds. However it's designed for people not to, and it shows.
            IMHO subclasses are the worst progression system.

            Apparently you gain advantage for checks, but if you return, they are mad. You can bribe them or wait 1-2 level ups and they forget the accident. Very much like in real life.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >What exactly happens in-game when you use "Friends" on someone?
              You get advantage on charisma checks on them but lose reputation when the spell ends because they know you Friended them.

              QRD on reputation?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dunno. All I've noticed it affecting is the prices when bartering.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Qrd == quick run down?
                And no, I didn't double post. It was post almost simultaneously.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah, got it.
                Reputation is until now the exact same like in dos2. That's why you see streamers gifting 100 items to the mighty lich who also opens shop in your camp (larian...) to bump rep to 100, so they get triple payment for every item they sell after donations. Curious, if they will change it. Doubt it.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not sure - they said they intentionally "eased up" on certain mechanics for the purpose of the beta testing - they specifically mentioned the over-abundance of food as an example.
                So maybe being able to manipulate reputations is another one?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sure. We will see. They did have all the time in the world, and like quintuple budget than initially planned, but I'm still certain ending will be shite. Tav is Hebrew for ve'tahv, which roughly translates to omega.
                They also said we will get a lot of good origins and lvl 10 will be cap. We will see in few days on the final pfh.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What exactly happens in-game when you use "Friends" on someone?
            You get advantage on charisma checks on them but lose reputation when the spell ends because they know you Friended them.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why not 6 sword bard rest lock? You won't miss asi and will have better saves than warlock and best skills possible. Also an extra attack. You will loose spell progression though, worth it IMHO.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        So I would just be playing swords bard to 6 and then taking levels in warlock from 7 onward? As a swords bard would I be favoring eldritch blast less than regular attacks?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, to get the extra attack ASAP and start with bard as he has the better saves, max charisma. Eldritch blast is an cantrip, meaning you use it if you don't have anything better.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            If I went full warlock instead would Eldritch Blast still be a button to press when I don't have anything better? Was kind of hoping for it to be my primary weapon.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, as a warlock you are mainly an eldritch blast turret

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              It'll be the same. Cantrips scale via char level.

  55. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do we have a final spell list? The one shared few days ago is so limited. That can't be everything and we are still missing core spells like shields. Whole builds depend on them.

    I hope for new weapon types, likely not going to happen.

  56. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Forest Gnome get "Speak with Animals" as a racial spell at Level 1.

    Hmm... that's tempting.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      But they're short. What kind of weirdo even plays short races? This includes dwarf btw.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yep, this is going into the book.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Huh?

          Short races are mechanically the best.
          If you go for one playthrough, go human. If you make multiple, why not try what the game offers? Dragonborn gets a somewhat strong breath weapon. With larians surface fetish you can combo away. One of the many reasons to go full custom party.

          Pretty sure there's one lone reactivity check for if you're a short race. You stick your hand in a hard to reach hole.
          Wonder if there's gonna be more in full release
          short race specific checks in sex scenes....

          But they're short. Nobody wants to be short. Not even short people. Especially short people.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe consult a therapist?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Do you want to be short?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'll play an ek/goo on release, likely underdark gnome. I don't want to be a underground abomination in real life, nor a hobbit. However I don't have a problem playing a game as one.
                Do you understand the difference?

                I guess you're right. If you're going to be making a Wizard unless you specifically wnat to roleplay another race or want a combat build the logical choice is Forest Gnome.

                Idk, there are plenty of good choices. Gnomes are great wizards though.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Short races are mechanically the best.
        If you go for one playthrough, go human. If you make multiple, why not try what the game offers? Dragonborn gets a somewhat strong breath weapon. With larians surface fetish you can combo away. One of the many reasons to go full custom party.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty sure there's one lone reactivity check for if you're a short race. You stick your hand in a hard to reach hole.
        Wonder if there's gonna be more in full release
        short race specific checks in sex scenes....

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      By the way, for those who played the EA - how many interactions does "Speak with Animals" and "Speak with Dead" actually unlock?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        100, easily.

        If you're going to be playing a traditional Wizard you might as well make it a Forest Gnome.
        >+1 DEX
        >+2 INT
        >free Speak With Animals
        >Darkvision
        >Gnome Cunning(advantage on Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma Saving Throws)

        Gnomes are fantastic wizards. Dwarf wizard has medium armor for free. Halfling advantage for saving throws.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        A lot. There is a literal Druid Grove(obviously filled with animals) right after the tutorial to start you going places. There are also animals spread around in the wilderness. There will probably be less animals in the city of Baldur's Gate.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Rodents, pets, birds...
          Sewer animals..

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I guess you're right. If you're going to be making a Wizard unless you specifically wnat to roleplay another race or want a combat build the logical choice is Forest Gnome.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you're going to be playing a traditional Wizard you might as well make it a Forest Gnome.
      >+1 DEX
      >+2 INT
      >free Speak With Animals
      >Darkvision
      >Gnome Cunning(advantage on Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma Saving Throws)

  57. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Im gonna pirate this game and there is nothing you gays can do about it.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good!

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Youre not getting a single cent, Sven.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Unfortunately he has already enough
          I Would pirate it, if. I knew where.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm sure old Swen is kinda touched you love his game so much you're going to play it even without the entry fee. That's a great compliment.

            Yeah, just like Daedalic with Gollum.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Did Gollum sell so much that it broke Steam? I didn't know that anon, wow

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                God, how bad that game is.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm sure old Swen is kinda touched you love his game so much you're going to play it even without the entry fee. That's a great compliment.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            He loves creative ways to achieve goals.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's on gog, they're really asking for it.

  58. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The cuck schizo must've been banned from the board. Go look at:

    [...]

    And see what a rampaging moron looks like.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The cuck schizo must've been banned from the board.
      Good, jannies need a 20% raise. That was a really tiresome shitposter.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      that guy has been schizoposting for years i really doubt they can ban him

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        At least he's not the cirigay

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          or the gay dude who fills a thread by himself

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            The cuck schizo must've been banned from the board. Go look at:

            [...]

            And see what a rampaging moron looks like.

            I'm almost convinced the cuck posting is done by yet another group of Discord homosexuals, who have nothing better to do with their lives.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The cuck schizo must've been banned from the board.
      Good, jannies need a 20% raise. That was a really tiresome shitposter.

      that guy has been schizoposting for years i really doubt they can ban him

      [...]
      I'm almost convinced the cuck posting is done by yet another group of Discord homosexuals, who have nothing better to do with their lives.

      Nah Im still here.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        how does it feels being popular ?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          feels great.

  59. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wait... there's no Death Domain. But you can play as a Cleric of both Myrkul and Kelemvor, right? How is that possible?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Insider information: Death domain would make Chinese localization awkward, so they removed it.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not PHB. I know, I know Gloomstalker.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        But there's no domains available that would actually fit either, like Death, Law, Dreams etc.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not just that, but Spores Druid is available, and he's the closest you'll get to a Necromancer Druid.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >targets con (highest save for almost everything)
          >save for nothing NOT save for half
          >low damage regardless
          Shroom bros... Larian buffed us right?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            You'll get low CON enemies once you enter the city, I imagine.

  60. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Could some good anon point out whether any of these new upcoming spells are Cantrips?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      i don't see any

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just a selection, chill. We likely get 200 spells outside phb.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldnt' count on it, especially spells that aren't simple damage dealers. Remember, if they'd want to retroactively add any utility/environmental/speech-related - generally more complex spells, they'd have to go back and re-adjust the entire game towards those spells. So I don't think it'll happen.

        The same with adding any additional races, subraces, domains, classes - anything that has in-game, in-dialogue reactivity. Too many moving parts.

        I think that Larian isn't bullshitting when they stated that no DLC/content patches will come out, and the game will be complete on release.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          We will get more than patch 9 spells + picrel. We have level 6 for full casters and level 5 for others. IMHO 8 classes have magic abilities.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, you misunderstood. They've already said the full release will have around 600 spells. I meant that, after that, they won't be adding anything new.

  61. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Okay. So on July 30th we'll have the full version of act 1? The quest for going to the moon towers and such?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't it the whole game,

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, unfortunately not, but I've heard that instead of the EA version of act 1, we'll be getting the full release version of act 1. The full game releases on August 3rd

  62. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any use for this transgender spell?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >masc
      >femme
      Uhhh don't they mean Type A and Type B

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just answer the question, alright?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's the point of changing words from "female"
      to "femme" and "male" to "masc"?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fear.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          What the frick does that mean?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fear of making Twitter mad by suggesting appearance is related to gender.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Oh, and masc is the right word for it, huh?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, it's appearance focused.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >masc
                Short for masculine, masc is a cultural term used by LGBTQ+ people to denote masculine appearance or mannerisms in queer people. It is not exactly the same as masculinity (See: femme vs. femininity).

                All bodies can be masc, masc people can use all pronouns. To be masc doesn't necessarily mean you want to be like a cisgender heterosexual man. Most often masc culture is defined by queer masculine people- especially transmasc (mas transgender and gender nonconforming) people. Like masculinity, masc is not defined by cisgender or heterosexual men and being masc doesn't automatically mean you practice "toxic masculinity" or hate femininity.

                There is some complex overlap between butch lesbian and transmasc culture.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >What is it with them?
                Basically some think tanks figured out many years ago that if you can get children to be constantly spinning in place and depressed about their sexual identity, while others focus on attacking them, that you don't have to worry about any them organizing themselves in any real fashion.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                While this is likely true, I never found any papers that explicitly advocate that. I did find some that talk their way around it and can be read either way.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                While this is likely true, I never found any papers that explicitly advocate that. I did find some that talk their way around it and can be read either way.

                Add to that Hormone-Drugs are really cheap to make and are essentially a byproduct of another drug.

                You have now lots and lots of cheap meds that you can sell for premium all you have to do is create a customerbase, so you spent your drugmoney (the money pharma corps do is fricking ridiculous) and spent a few billions on marketing and voila, you have created the transgender lifestyle.
                The Pharma lobby already figured out in the 70s that its way more profitable to sell meds to the healthy than the sick.
                But wait, Trans-Tech isn't a budding industry merely for Pharma, hospitals can profit from it too. No you can get healthy patients to frick their bodies up so hard that they will need more meds to just keep going AND hospital-stay for genderops.
                Its like printing money!

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >gay tolerance is NOT a slippery slope
                Heh

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Based capitalists. Stupid people that chop their dick's off on a whim deserve nothing but suffering

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Children deserve protection from society and humanity is about uplifting ourselves over generations. This is a death cult mentality you have, also a great tool of control.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Children deserve protection from society
                Yeah just don't live in a place where they'll kidnap your kid and cut his dick off. This isn't that hard

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, you absolutely have to create a financial interest in any social engineering technique you want to enact, that's how it becomes self-perpetuating and untraceable.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >femme
      >masc
      Did "male" and "female" cease to exist? What in the frick.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Male and female are cisnormative dogwhistle microaggressions equivalent to sea ottering

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          its sealioning

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            What the frick is sealioning?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              term used by people being told they are wrong online because they think public websites are private spaces

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >YOU'RE POLITEBOMBING ME

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Now listen here, Cryptofascist!
                Mega-Corps controlling our speech is all in the great spirit of the great socialist ur-fathers Marx & Engels

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I love this comic, because of it's universality.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you kill someone, and want to use Speak with Dead, they won't speak with their killer. So you can disguise yourself to do it. You can also just get all the race-specific stuff like interacting with Tieflings in the grove, or Drow into the goblin camp and grymforge

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bump. Could someone not /misc/tarding right now actually answer the question?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        No.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Try reading the post above yours, champ.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you kill someone, and want to use Speak with Dead, they won't speak with their killer. So you can disguise yourself to do it. You can also just get all the race-specific stuff like interacting with Tieflings in the grove, or Drow into the goblin camp and grymforge

          Eh... seems like a huge waste of a spell slot, then.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            you can find magic items in the underdark with that kind of utility spells

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        No.

        1. Its /misc/gaying not /misc/tarding you fricking newbie.
        2. This was the most interesting discussion in a BG3-Thread in like 3 weeks so frick off.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, constantly. Also detect thoughts and speak to shit.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Disguising yourself as a drow makes interacting with goblins easier. But it also removes foot fetish content, so it's a mixed bag.

  63. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I pirated the EA last fall and had a pretty good time. Think I'll do a half high-elf fighter build. Just want to turn off my brain and hit things with a big sword. I'm probably going to go for the charlatan background since I also like to persuade and deceive

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bay?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I downloaded it from RARBG (RIP) if that's what you're asking

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sad. Any valid alternatives?

          Yes, it's appearance focused.

          Never heard that word before.

          >masc
          Short for masculine, masc is a cultural term used by LGBTQ+ people to denote masculine appearance or mannerisms in queer people. It is not exactly the same as masculinity (See: femme vs. femininity).

          All bodies can be masc, masc people can use all pronouns. To be masc doesn't necessarily mean you want to be like a cisgender heterosexual man. Most often masc culture is defined by queer masculine people- especially transmasc (mas transgender and gender nonconforming) people. Like masculinity, masc is not defined by cisgender or heterosexual men and being masc doesn't automatically mean you practice "toxic masculinity" or hate femininity.

          There is some complex overlap between butch lesbian and transmasc culture.

          Disgusting.
          What is it with them? Afraid to speak up and to unreflected to question anything corporations spoonfeed them. No wonder people snap and start shooting into crowds.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Holy checked, but I don't know any alternatives. Try the megathread on r/piracy that has a big list of sites

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Thx

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Patch 9 nowhere to be found, checked a dozen sites. Damn.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Try Steam

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                ?
                rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5952884

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cкaчaть is the thing to click at?
                Spasiba

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                use magnet link

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thx

                I will continue to pirate Larian games like I pirate Paradox and Obsidian games, and there is not a force alive that can hand me a cease and desist.

                Also, Rogue is the only fun martial in 5e, so that. Either an Assassin or Thief.

                Hero we desperately need
                Why not gloomstalkter assassin mc?
                Or thief barb and spam double attacks.

                gog-games

                Another supreme gentleman

                build autism is my favorite part of crpgs

                What else is there?

  64. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why did they call Ric Flair the nature boy?

  65. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have tried to use Disguise Self without much success ever since gaining my wizard powers. This spell sucks.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Obsv it does

      [...]
      Add to that Hormone-Drugs are really cheap to make and are essentially a byproduct of another drug.

      You have now lots and lots of cheap meds that you can sell for premium all you have to do is create a customerbase, so you spent your drugmoney (the money pharma corps do is fricking ridiculous) and spent a few billions on marketing and voila, you have created the transgender lifestyle.
      The Pharma lobby already figured out in the 70s that its way more profitable to sell meds to the healthy than the sick.
      But wait, Trans-Tech isn't a budding industry merely for Pharma, hospitals can profit from it too. No you can get healthy patients to frick their bodies up so hard that they will need more meds to just keep going AND hospital-stay for genderops.
      Its like printing money!

      I disagree. It wasn't created by them, but boy, did they support it big league at some point. Billions of tax money to fuel it.

      Byproduct of which drug?

      Right! Haven't even thought of selling hormones, sure, keep the gdp rising.
      It's totally a lifestyle. Found that out years ago by myself.

      It's literally printing money and then you can apply rainbow tax to fair jeans.

      Based capitalists. Stupid people that chop their dick's off on a whim deserve nothing but suffering

      Only to prove they aren't insane! Check your privilege.

      Now listen here, Cryptofascist!
      Mega-Corps controlling our speech is all in the great spirit of the great socialist ur-fathers Marx & Engels

      Huehue

      Oh, you misunderstood. They've already said the full release will have around 600 spells. I meant that, after that, they won't be adding anything new.

      Maybe, who cares? Already planning triple class builds.

      ?
      rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5952884

      Supreme gentlemen.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I have tried to use Disguise Self without much success ever since gaining my wizard powers. This spell sucks.
      Learn where it would be appropriate to use it. Learn to sneak so you can scout ahead. Once you know what you're going to be encountering, choose a disguise that will be beneficial.

  66. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shadowheart impregnator build???

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Spore druid

  67. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I will continue to pirate Larian games like I pirate Paradox and Obsidian games, and there is not a force alive that can hand me a cease and desist.

    Also, Rogue is the only fun martial in 5e, so that. Either an Assassin or Thief.

  68. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    is it better to buy this on gog or steam?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      gog-games

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Doesn't work 🙁

  69. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    build autism is my favorite part of crpgs

  70. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    How faithful is this game to 5e?
    I haven't played any tabletop systems since 3.5e DND and Pathfinder 1/2 so immediately I'm trying to figure out if there are any noob traps

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Somewhat. Some of the weaker options have been buffed. Like sorcerers don't have bloodline spells in 5e, but they do in BG3.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How faithful is this game to 5e?
      It is like 75 percent accurate to 5e.
      They tweaked the classes, for the better, mostly. So I wouldn't rely on any subclass break down or anything indepth.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >noob traps
      5e doesn't really have noob traps at the level of of/3.5. Well, it sort of does, but no where near that level, and Larian has buffed the lowest denominator.

  71. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I will play an Oath of Ancients Paladin with Jaheira and we WILL protect nature and the trees and the little birdies

  72. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anons, is it true that, when creating a character and choosing one of the pre-made Origins, you DON'T create the "who do you dream of" character?
    Because if that's the case, doesn't this outright confirm what the "leaker" claimed, that it's not a manifestation of the tadpole, but the essence of Bhaal?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who knows
      I doubt bhaal goes this way
      Then again larian lobotomy writing is capable of anything

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't this contradict the usage of illithid wisdom triggering lover scenes? Also the brain things whisper in girly voices and illithid are loved when they overcome you. Or bhaal is the father of illithid and vlaakith the mother and lae'zel is vlaakith before illithid lich transformation.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Who knows
        I doubt bhaal goes this way
        Then again larian lobotomy writing is capable of anything

        Anons, is it true that, when creating a character and choosing one of the pre-made Origins, you DON'T create the "who do you dream of" character?
        Because if that's the case, doesn't this outright confirm what the "leaker" claimed, that it's not a manifestation of the tadpole, but the essence of Bhaal?

        Wait... people have a problem figuring this out? It's obvious if you think for 5 seconds - the dream lover is the manifestation of the "special" tadpole, who wants to enter symbiosis with you; whilst the urge towards violence, the bloodthirst you feel within the dream etc., is the essence of Bhaal. Both of those are antagonistic towards one another, making it all the more obvious?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's also obvious why the illithid chose that particular group of people to implant with the experimental tadpoles - each of them have some "special" bloodline, either through connections to divinity, like Gale; a hellish pact, like Wyll; or being a descendant of dinivity, like the Bhaalspawn.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I remember something about the tadpole carriers being weapons. I think that's something you hear the 3 chosen of the Absolute mention when you see them in a vision.

  73. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm leaning barbarian to throw stuff around, shove people and all that. If variant human is there, then that, if not then maybe a half orc or dragonborn. Probably berserker for a subclass.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      No vhuman. Barb halforc + thief for bonus and sneak.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        That seems like an interesting combo, but at which level would you do that? Getting Thief is a 3 level dip, same with berserker. To throw people strength is important too and you want rages. Extra bonus isn't better than an extra attack I think (but I haven't seen how they implemented it, played before level 5 was unlocked, and then a bit after but didn't get to level 5 before I decided to wait for the release). So let's say you're level 3 barbarian berserker, you can start going into rogue immediately, but that takes 3 levels and doesn't seem that great as opposed to going barb 5 for that ASI and extra attack. So what barb 5 then rogue 3 (or 4 for extra ASI)? Seems kinda late, and expertise is good, but sneak attack is wasted (unless they took off the limitations).

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          There is no good time. I've considered a long time on the best time to multiclass a Barbarogue for a tabletop game and it's at level 5, which is too bad. Getting extra attack is too important.

          That said, Berserker Barbarians (at level 3) can make a bonus action attack while Raging so you're not as bad off if you multiclass earlier with them without as much of a drop but you'll still be weaker than other pure level 5 classes.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            The level cap is 12 right? Maybe something late like barb 8/rogue 4 could work? I'd definitely go after level 5, but when exactly would depend how much I feel like I need the extra rage, charm resistance and initiative bonus. But to be honest in throwing/shoving focus, would getting one more bonus help much? Like how often will you beed to throw 4 people one round? Or is it just for the round when you activate the rage? Of course you can just attack people, but I think throwing them is funnier.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, start with thief 3, then full barb or barb then 3 thief for cartoon dialogue.

          If you start as barb, immediately switch thief, then after 3lvl thief full barb. Takes a little until extra attack, but larian games are piss easy. Solod as a bard with literally no cheese.
          Asi aren't as important as level in barb/rage. 18-20 Str is enough, put rest in dex and maybe 14 in con. Ac is key in this game, as you are constantly outnumbered/flanked.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sneak attack is absolutely op, esp dual wield thief

            [...]
            Was disgusting
            Normal people don't teleport

            But I specifically want to throw people, not just stab them hard. Isn't throw range (and the ability to throw someone itself) dependant on strength? I want normal attacks more as a backup for when throwing isn't really an option.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Well then 3 barbarian to get Enraged Throw then 3 in Thief for the extra bonus action to do it twice since Enraged Throw is a bonus action.

              The level cap is 12 right? Maybe something late like barb 8/rogue 4 could work? I'd definitely go after level 5, but when exactly would depend how much I feel like I need the extra rage, charm resistance and initiative bonus. But to be honest in throwing/shoving focus, would getting one more bonus help much? Like how often will you beed to throw 4 people one round? Or is it just for the round when you activate the rage? Of course you can just attack people, but I think throwing them is funnier.

              Your 8 Barb and 4 Thief works fine for this.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Well then 3 barbarian to get Enraged Throw then 3 in Thief for the extra bonus action to do it twice since Enraged Throw is a bonus action.
                Won't I get an extra throw faster if I go barb 5? Extra attack can also be used for extra throw, no? And ASI for strength to throw further.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sure. Sounds like the better option. Thief can wait.

                Barbarian has what you need anyway and it's always safer to multiclass after level 5.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              So? You can still do it throw around most things. Just pick a normal sized race. Like I said, max Str and dex. Str is your most important stat, ac is the most important variable.
              No idea what your throwing fetish is, it's not very efficient. Maybe you saw too much promo material of larian.

              Sure. Sounds like the better option. Thief can wait.

              Barbarian has what you need anyway and it's always safer to multiclass after level 5.

              Idk, bonus action is pretty much key. You usually start fights in a bad position.
              Your choice. I'd finish thief ASAP. Back stab is also a live safer, as bosses have ridiculously high ac, action points and movement.

              I bought bg3 now and finished ea almost. I must say the criticism isn't hard enough. The writing is sometimes km bad, they do push fetish propaganda and everything and everyone obeys to the silent main char.
              Despite all this, astarion is by far the best companion and I don't like him one bit. All other comps are completely unbelievable appeasement sex dolls.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Just stabbing shit is boring, I like gimmicky combos. Throwing people sounds fun. Grappling also usually sucks in games and this gives at least a tiny bit of it.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Go brawler. Idk I only used throw few times. Boring and Inefficient. Even throwing axes are underwhelming.

                Multiclasses are all about gimmicks.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                As in tavern brawler? Did they implement it in some funky way? Cause normally it's just pretty underwhelming.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                In some games fists are absolutely op, but almost all games suck. Haven't checked it, but there's a talent for it.
                Now that I finished ea I am certain act one will be more than double of ea. Underground is apparently the easy way, and creche and forest will likely be medium and hard. So we are likely to see level 8/10 after act 1 (including all content) good choice as I like to play geared up characters.
                Larian home brew rules in regarding of balance is on point. I do expect more items though.
                Also I will totally play fighter/mage/thief, like in a true bg game.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sneak attack is absolutely op, esp dual wield thief

          >and teleporting around
          god I hated that. It made positioning feel arbitrary when you watch the opening of a fight as half the enemies jump or teleport.

          Also it kinda just pissed me off that for some reason Warfare couldn't get it's teleport (Phoenix Dive) till you were off the island so you felt like a moron who couldn't teleport like a normal person.

          Was disgusting
          Normal people don't teleport

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I may go for a Dwarf Wild Magic Barbarian. For some reason I see people talking about Duergar for this class so I may go for it too.

  74. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Is there an unspoken agreement the worst opinions on this board must be attached to anime pictures? By the way, Shadowife and Bae'zel are miracles of the universe.

  75. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >tranime reaction pic
    opinion immediately rendered invalid, sorry try again, fatty

  76. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >"N-NO U" tier reply
    >still posting tranime pic
    heres your (You) and take a shower, fatty. you stink

  77. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >still replying
    lol last (You) I'll give you

  78. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    3119824
    I can do this all day, the question is
    can (You)?

  79. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    3119839
    >still going at it

  80. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >people running defense for D:OS2 in the BG3 thread
    Reminder that Larian received backlash so intense for trying to implement shitty Divinity combat at the start of the beta that they basically redid almost all aspects of it. Most CRPG fans don't like the normiecore "everything is covered in feces and fire and teleporting around" combat of that game.

    Stop defending it, BG3 is better in every way.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >and teleporting around
      god I hated that. It made positioning feel arbitrary when you watch the opening of a fight as half the enemies jump or teleport.

      Also it kinda just pissed me off that for some reason Warfare couldn't get it's teleport (Phoenix Dive) till you were off the island so you felt like a moron who couldn't teleport like a normal person.

  81. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    3119852
    lol

  82. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    3119852
    lol

    Shut the frick up

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      no

  83. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    ? What game do you play?!
    Everyone constantly applauses everything I do. Like ten (drunk) people already begged me to have sex for them and weren't one bit disappointed I declined. "please come back anytime". ludo narrative doesn't go well with sandbox, eh swen?

    Game is high polish, no question. Few bugs here and there, but honestly wotr today in worse condition.

    It's a shame they have such subpar writing.

    Also focusing on the absolute I expect nothing from the ending. IMHO the wrong choice to start immediately with the big bad guy, but larian favours this approach. Didn't work in dos2 either.

  84. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I pretty much helped everyone. The tieflings I killed, bc I didn't know how to get leazel or what's her name and the bandits before withers for the xp. I helped halsin aso. The only time I saw the frog disapproving was when I talked to the healer of the druids for a cure. Maybe it's different for bard, as the class tag seems pretty op in dialogues.

  85. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is the best draconic bloodline for a sorcerer?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fire and poison is the most frequent damage type and poison us the most obnoxious one. You can take dragonborn for double resistances.

  86. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gonna go Palabard.
    College of swords/Oath of vengeance.
    Smites for days. Skill monkey. +1 AC +2 dmg. Advantage for bosses and hunters mark. Later on should have
    Will probably sword and board since that synergises best. But great weapon master is almost too good to pass up. Tbh though probably won't need the extra damage and kind of want to give shield master a try even though larian nerfed it by giving everyone free shoves.
    Haven't decided on race. Tempted by Half-orc for the crits, but the cha you can only start off at 15.
    Other options are half-wood-elf or zariel tiefling. Helf gets fleet of foot and better starting stats. Zariel gets two extra smites. The Cha is better also which pays off a bit too, but it isn't as needed on vengeance oath.
    Unless variant human gets in. In which case it's a no-brainer.
    Would love to play a monk, but even with the update they're still kind of shit.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good, but start with paladin bc of the saves.
      GWM is ridiculous. A must. Esp as enemy hp is bloated.

      He is decent, sleep immunity and great stats, drow he is great in dialogue. No vhuman.
      No info regarding monk, what are you talking about?

  87. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Depending on how Gloomstalker is implemented, Gloom 8/Theif 4 should be blender kino. Hopefully enough cool 1H weapons exist

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Will at least be as good as in tt.
      Thief is likely the best multiclass there is.
      With feats and items you can build a bonus action machine.

  88. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    How are 5th level fighters in bg3? Do they get anything cool from larian like rangers/barbs do?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      They get an extra attack, so you get to attack twice per round.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        But so do rangers/paladins/barbarians, and even 3rd level theif rogues

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Rogues have no extra attack.

          How are 5th level fighters in bg3? Do they get anything cool from larian like rangers/barbs do?

          Well, ek have magic and bm have a lot of maneuvers. I expect more in 3 weeks.

          The only larian rule I strongly dislike is that everyone can use scrolls. Triviliases the game.

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