its a shitton of content you're missing out on and stuff that makes the endgame easier. i would highly recommend using a DLC unlocker if you have a legit copy of the game, or just pirating everything if you aren't willing to pay for the DLC.
The grind is massively overstated and isn't over 100 hours in any game unless you're bashing your head against a power gap wall rather than trying to cheese past it.
If there's one thing I learned about Disgaea fans, they have no fricking concept of time. Like I have 156 hours in Disgaea D2 before I dropped it. I don't have any character with fully upgraded Trapezohedrons nor do all my characters have them, and my Laharl hasn't even capped Reincarnations, let alone max stats. That's one fricking character; if I wanted a full roster I still have 9 to go—and that's assuming I never want to switch up the roster. Barely had any of the max rank weapons either.
I just got too bored about repeating the same reincarnation thing over and over when there was no longer anyway to optimize it further, and the item world shit was getting old as well. Even with all that work I couldn't even survive the superboss's per-iniative attack.
>they have no fricking concept of time
What does have a "concept of time" are the counters on my save files.
And no, you don't need anywhere even remotely close to 156 hours to beat DD2 Baal, even if that is his hardest incarnation out of all the games.
Of course you can just spam the first stage in the game for a thousand hours and still not come close to beating him, but that's obviously not what we are talking about here.
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Anonymous
I'm sure you mean that shit where you get one character up to max stats and then put DLC evilities on them, right? Yeah, real fricking fun tactical game.
And no, it was using the Trial Caverns whatever to level up between item world runs to try getting end game items and innocents. I didn't focus on just one character, but even the one I was trying to get way ahead was still way behind being able to face him.
Of course I didn't look up anything beforehand, so no guides, and while I didn't minmax as hard as I could, I still went out of my way to do methods I didn't like in order to grind more efficiently.
But please, tell me how Disgaea post-game isn't 300 hours of fricking grinding. The main story wasn't even 20 hours if I recall.
8 months ago
Anonymous
You sound schizophrenic.
I am honestly not sure what to tell you anon. Are you maybe watching all the animations and so on? People usually skip those.
Even howlongtobeat has DD2 at under 100h for completionist and those estimates are usually rather high to be more on the safe side.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Howlongtobeat
Yeah, about that.
It also has very little polled.
8 months ago
Anonymous
I 100%'d the data collection on D4 Vita for the Trophy and that took me about 160h total but that's also the biggest Disgaea game with the most stuff to do and that trophy alone took around 50h of going through the Item World, capturing/interrogating, and hunting for Fun weapons
That's the only Disgaea I have more than 100h in and I did everything and all achievements in all of them except for D6
8 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, the point of disgaea is to maximize the efficiency of your grind, not just to grind forever. I suck at the efficiency shit but I'm not going to complain about not knowing which enemies to combine so that I can still one-shot them even though they are a higher level than me.
8 months ago
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Just out of curiosity, is your 'need' after 1000s of hours of experience and minmaxing the shortest path to achieving this?
Because it feels like you're setting unrealistic expectations, which seems to be a massive problem with veteran Disgaea players. Like I'm looking up what people reported their playtimes as and you just sound full of shit.
Like the guy above says it's "overstated" but it really just doesn't seem to be overstated in the least.
The grind is massively overstated and isn't over 100 hours in any game unless you're bashing your head against a power gap wall rather than trying to cheese past it.
its post game stuff, the main story is essentially unchanged without it. if youve played the previous games, the DLC is the little cameos with prior protags with a little fanservice scene and unlocks them as playable characters
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I was very surprised the PS5 version was still only 60 bucks, but then again i can't really see them charging 70 for this game, especially now that theyre using cheap looking 3d chibis instead of the sprites. God i miss the sprites.
I don't like the jumbo system. How do I beat the first boss with the jumbo system? Another guy in the last thread suad to build up combos but when I did Fuji missed and the boss just one shot him and then an enemy monk jumbo'd and killed the rest of my team. I just think they should have stopped with the limit break thing they did with Fuji
Does anybody know an easy way to get the angel cake or whatever it's called bribe item? You need it to unlock Maiko, and you need that to unlock something else.
Blacky is also an abomination made from a eldritch monster's flesh and blood while tractie was made from words and paper and fantie is made from girl cum and a lantern.
is a particular one better or i should play the older one first? and what is better for a complete newb. i don't know shit about these games except i have them on my wishlist forever because i like witches.
Play Refrain first. It has some minor call backs to it in Galleria on top of having better labyrinths to explore. Galleria's rushed development led to things getting cut and needing to rely on random map generators for sections of the game, holding it back some. Both have a great story and while Galleria did have some gameplay improvements, Refrain is the better experience to play.
Nacho didn't fricking deserve it bros.... I genuinely hope the next witch game expands on what happens to eureka cause that's just too sad to leave her wandering hopelessly in a nachiless world, with only dreams to remember her by.
>I genuinely hope the next witch game expands on what happens to eureka
I feel like she'd get a passing mention at most, if we even get a fourth game in the series.
with how much Luca was implied to be nachi's real mom and how she issued the last request as well as the hologram lady mentioning her plans would not go as she wanted. An overarching narrative is starting to form for the series and I really hope nis gives him another game so he can expand on it.
How in the frick did they greenlight this game. This is the total opposite of a money maker, and the total opposite of "trying to appeal to a broader audience" (both because it's a drpg and because of its themes). But I'm so happy they did. Too bad this kind of risky game is so rare nowadays.
And even more unbelievable, it got a fricking sequel.
Some exec at nis really likes izumi for his weird gameplay ideas or for his incredibly dark writing. Probably the latter with how fricked up galleria got and how he got told to cut that one sprite.
what's even the context behind this one, I don't remember a scene where this would be relevant
8 months ago
Anonymous
with how insecure the prince was and how confused he was sexually I could totally see that happening and fantie roaming in on it as a cat to hint at his (her) gender and sexuality problem.
8 months ago
Anonymous
i will now not play your troony game
8 months ago
Anonymous
the troony is never portrayed in a favorable light tries to force the main character to pleasure a donkey and threatens to have her guards rape and kill the main duo if she doesn't. She also is getting molested by her uncle.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Also ends up in the fricking guillotine in both timelines lmao.
8 months ago
Anonymous
adding on to that eureka having her undress in front of her probably replaced what that scene could've been but this is pure speculation because it was cut.
I wanted to play your series Etna but I'm on PC and your PC port of 1 is a fricking mess and I want all the characters and not even modders really figured that shit out.
the etna flonne duo was probably the last interesting thing about that series. Disgaea 2 with the mc and the demon princess was also fun.
Everything after is a poor clone.
>all classes have male and female versions in this game
how the frick am i supposed to pick? I dont think i've ever had a female ninja or male samurai, but i love the ones i'm used to
I'm still getting used to those, I haven't played one of these since D2, but yea i guess that should be the deciding factor rather than chibi booba. For now I'm just trying to get a little ways into the story and unlock classes before i really get into it, just got Ceefore but haven't finished that chapter
It's crazy how 5 is so much better in every way like graphics, music, animation, features, level design, everything compared to both 6 and 7, it's like they didn't even try.
I even forget that geo panels exists when playing 7.
At least pirilika voice is cute.
I did. I gotta get to grindan again.
I'm mostly using an Armor Knight as my wall. She's able to take no damage from Jumbo enemies once I Shield and Braveheart her, but once I Jumbo her she get's oneshotted. Kinda lame.
The story is fine, with the one detail that annoyed me was little boss variety with barely changing up each God of Destruction fight
Honestly I really liked the character cast, which sucks since they're still trapped in a mechanically flawed as frick game as 6
There's a schizo theory going around that NIS knows that the characters are the only thing people praise about 6 so they don't want to put them in 7 because then no one would have any reason to play 6. It's stupid, but the only other reason I can think why they're not in 7 despite all the models already being there is that they don't want to look lazy or something.
Companies usually like to pretend failed projects don't exist but Disgaea usually do takes a while to release al the DLC, so D6 cast still has a chance to appear
Women always burst into laughter when they spot a tiny dick. But heaven forbid a man for pointing out that a women might be underdeveloped in the chest area.
I don't think it is as comparable as people think it is
a micro dick is pathetic because we as a species evolved to be size queens, and because a bigger dick (up to a certain point) means more pleasure meaning the female will stick around more
meanwhile fat breasts pre lactation period is an attractive but a moot point since post lactation period both small and big breasts end up producing almost the same amount of milk for the offspring
This is even shown in how although most of the male population likes big breasts, small breasts are not a deal breaker, but a small hip/ass is, since a wider hip is linked to an easier time to birth the next-gen
tl;dr
big breasts, big ass is great
small breasts, big ass is also great
big breasts small ass and small breasts small ass is a tragedy
I don't think so, but I'm pretty sure promotional material said and even within the game Zed had already super reincarnated a bunch of times.
Sorry idk how to grab a picture from the pdf so I cropped a screenshot.
Trying to figure out any kind of power scaling in this series is moronic.
Doesn't matter how much or how little I grinded Laharl in Disgaea 1, he keeps being just the right level for my characters to beat him at the start of the post game.
>Trying to figure out any kind of power scaling in this series is moronic.
There actually is two things, D5 gave most of the characters overloads so even if they aren't an overlord in name they're basically one if they have it, and some characters skills say that it can beat overlords or they fear it or whatever. That's it, can't even use the playable character card because of some lose in the cutscene against returning characters
The lore reason is that zed reincarnated a lot of times and he need to defeat the god of destruction that is a super boss type character but in the main story. For everything to make sense they inflated the numbers.
I spent around 150 hours in D5 probably because I was just enjoying it. Really didn't like the extract grinding however, but I don't know how necessary that was when item world grinding seems to be the most important thing besides class mastery in that game, and that one doesn't take all too long, it's just somewhat tedious. I wonder if 4's postgame is better, not that I disliked 5's.
>longass map with the boss all the way in the back >jumbo my unit and nuke the boss to end the map instantly
Who the frick greenlit this hilariously broken mechanic?
And what's funny is they do the boss thing a lot. 13 magistrates+all the final bosses, a lot of who make multiple appearances. It's like they want you to exploit it.
Disgaea scares me, because I know there's at least one autist out there that plays literally nothing but Disgaea. Like that's the entirety of his video game hobby - grinding out these games up to insane numbers- and he'll keep doing it until he dies.
That disturbs me.
>it only calculates normal attack fist damage into RES and not any sort of skill damage.
You sure about that? I don't doubt NIS moronation but they got it right with 5.
better performance than 6 but is still shit beyond redemption, I still will get it on switch because playing on portable is godsend but if I had access to a Deck I wouldn't even think it twice.
You get 30fps most of the time. The only time the fps drops was when I tried to control any jumbified units (It's fine when there are jumbified units on field until I tried to control them)
Actual moron, time between 6 and 7 was two years in JP alone
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I have not played anything beyond 5, are these people being moronic or is there anything to these claims?
Dude is moronic. 6 was casualized in part to bring in new players, but also because they made a new engine for it so they were light on content as a result. NIS has used proprietary engines for ALL their games except for Disgaea 4.
I don't own the game you fricking goon, I said so literally in the post you quoted, that is why I am asking.
Also that's not how it works, you came here making these claims, YOU need to provide evidence or frick off.
Relatively gentle difficulty curve that has milestones. Disgaea practically invented GRIND. The mechanics of each game get progressively more involved, and the stories are usually self-contained.
Is it a game where I have to grind(like repeating final fantasy random encounters) or is it a game where I don't have to grind so long as I'm gud enough? If a game is easy, that why would one need to grind? Wouldn't the urge to grind imply that the game throws tough encounters?
It is THE grinding game. You keep playing to make numbers go up and beat up enemies with increasingly large numbers.
Think of Disgaea as a progenitor to idle games.
These games look cool. How hard are they? Are they grindy? Should I play these games in release order?
>How hard are they?
Difficulty is what you make it. If you spend a lot of time grinding and doing a ton of Item World while still doing the main story your team will probably stay pretty OP for the story levels.
You can also trivialize a lot of things by abusing gameplay mechanics and you're encouraged to figure out these exploits. >Are they grindy?
See above. Generally yes but it's usually a lot less tedious than grinding in most other games since Disgaea expects you to do it a lot and has tons of mechanics and levels designed specifically to facilitate efficient grinding. >Should I play these games in release order?
I'd recommend starting with the HD remaster of 2 since it plays very similar to 1 but with slightly more refined mechanics and more forgiving difficulty early on and it has a story that stands alone well. Play 1 next after 2 if you like it.
>How hard are they?
It varies from entry to entry but generally no, not that hard. >Are they grindy?
Beating the main story requires little to no grinding depending on how you play. I had to grind for story chapters back when I played the very first Disgaea but maybe I'm just dumb >Should I play these games in release order?
Depends on your tolerance for non-HD sprites. Many people will say (and I agree) that the first one has the best story and that alone makes it worth playing, but in terms of gameplay and mechanics they got progressively better with each entry. I have only played up to 5 though, I hear 6 is pretty bad overall and I don't know much about 7 either.
I have not played 3 but honestly, you can't go wrong with 2, 4 or 5 imo
I really like the characters in 2 but the gameplay part is less good (but still good) than in the others.
4 has a cool protagonist if you can stomach one particular joke/personality trait being repeated ad-nauseam... which is honestly kind of standard for this series I guess.
5 is my personal favorite; I like the protagonist, I love almost all of the supporting cast, I liked the new units it introduced and it has great music as well. Gameplay wise it is also the most refined (if a bit casualized) out of the 2D mainline games.
I liked his design and his voice but yeah, his personality falls a bit flat by himself, can't really argue much against that. I liked how the rest of the cast interact with him, I guess?
Not him but I like Killia because I think he's cool.
8 months ago
Anonymous
He'd get dog walked by Valz. HARD.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Okay?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Just saying he's a b***h with the personality of a Kraft single whose only redeeming trait is the company he keeps, and ALL of them are also one note caricatures of tropes.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah that's true. I just think his moves and design are cool.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, he does look pretty hardcore, but God DAMN, did they go out of their way to sortie a damage control by adding that "cooking" element to his character in the D6 dlc.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>introduce overload, making some characters change form >doesn't at least make them at least a special skill in 7
I fricking miss berserk usalia
>Killia is a complete non-character
Kinda one of the reasons why I like him and Adell is that they're not caricatures repeating the same joke over and over.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Adell is a caricature of the generic muscle over brains shounen protagonist with a traumatic backstory and pent up issues that never get resolved though.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Adell isn't an idiot, as seen with the geo-puzzle level
You know I think the disagaea games just tend to add to many characters that don't contribute to the story or hardly get any development. That's way I liked the first Disgaea since the first half of the game it's just Laharl, Flonne and Etna and the second half they onlly add Cpt. Gordon, Jennifer and Thursday.
A lot of 1's story involved other characters outside the playable cast which kept it from feeling bloated >Lamington >Vulcanus >Vyers >Carter >Zombie Kid whose name I can't be fricked to look up
>That's way I liked the first Disgaea since the first half of the game it's just Laharl, Flonne and Etna and the second half they onlly add Cpt. Gordon, Jennifer and Thursday.
i mean most disgaea only have a main party of 6-7(ignoring whatever joins in post game). but i guess the newer games frontload them too much and then never do anything with them.
And disgaea 5 felt so fricking formulaic, holy shit. >chapter 1: first character joins >chapter 2: second character joins >chapter 3: third character joins >chapter 4: fourth character joins >... >chapter n: first character has their character "development" chapter >chapter n+1: second character has their character "development" chapter >chapter n+2: third character has their character "development" chapter >chapter n+3: fourth character has their character "development" chapter >and then they just exist
I also didn't like the disjointed netherworlds in 5 and 6 and just hopping from world to world each chapter.
Only in chapter 3 of D7 so far but it's nice it has a more overarching theme even going from one world to the next.
Axels story was a mistake, I got baited into thinking they would do something awesome for side characters but it never happened.
It also feels bad that I want Labyrinth of Refrain cameos but it all eludes me.
Because e-girl animu shit is a crutch for a game with bad gameplay, and if I wanted to coom I would go on pornhub and look at real women like a neurotypical person
It's the Gurren Lagann of tactical RPGs. Take Final Fantasy Tactics and make it wacky anime style with over-the top animations and absurd stats and you have Disgaea.
>tactical RPG
What does that mean exactly? I love turn-based TTRPG combat for tactical combat the most, so I loved BG3. I guess this would be more like fire emblem? I also hear it's a grind fest? I don't like extraneous grinding.
Tactical RPGs refer to grid-based RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics, Fire Emblem, or Tactics Ogre, to name some other examples. >I don't like extraneous grinding.
Grinding IS the game, you pump up your dudes' numbers and see how absurd they get.
From the way you write, you're a prime target for anything autism-related.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Projection + didn't answer the question
Yeah, more like Fire Emblem, Final Fantasy Tactics, Triangle Strategy- those kinds of games. And while the main gimmick that sets Disgaea apart from the others is how far you can exploit the system for Big Numbers, the main campaign is designed so that you can complete it without getting into the ridiculous grind. All of the games have demos if you feel like giving them a shot, but even though I'm a huge fan of Disgaea, I admit it's got very niche appeal.
You can play the main story as a traditional srpg without any grinding at all.
Tactical RPGs refer to grid-based RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics, Fire Emblem, or Tactics Ogre, to name some other examples. >I don't like extraneous grinding.
Grinding IS the game, you pump up your dudes' numbers and see how absurd they get.
Thanks
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Projection + didn't answer the question
Lol, you're a bigger autist than all the Disgaea players combined.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>are this game's fans autistic? >"NO U!!!"
Okay, gay.
Yeah, more like Fire Emblem, Final Fantasy Tactics, Triangle Strategy- those kinds of games. And while the main gimmick that sets Disgaea apart from the others is how far you can exploit the system for Big Numbers, the main campaign is designed so that you can complete it without getting into the ridiculous grind. All of the games have demos if you feel like giving them a shot, but even though I'm a huge fan of Disgaea, I admit it's got very niche appeal.
>Unlock item world >figure I'll do a couple floors to farm consumables >bonus objectives only give item levels >eh whatever, I'll go til I run out of bodies >8 floors later and everyone has practically doubled their level
what the frick
That's slower after a while, buff exp gain is constant so you always gain the same amount of levels with each cast. It's much faster for a good while, plus it doesn't require any good equipment whatsoever
This, holy shit the item world is so overpowered. I did three 4-6 IW level runs when it first dropped and came out and got carried by it so hard it took me up to like chapter 9. Not that I'm complaining or anything. Just beat the main at 20 hours, feels good having almost a good of a story as D1 finally after 20 years, albeit minus the iconic stuff such as Prism Rangers, Midboss, Horse wiener, Etna, etc
>my toaster took bg3, diablo4, remnant2, elden bling like a champ >finally took a knee on nis game with constant freezes because cpu cant handle the same animation playing twice
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yeah I've been getting the freezes on skill use too, but it's never taken more than 5 seconds to unfrick itself.
Just set battle animations to skip after first play if you still want to see them but not have it be unplayable.
Disgaea is a mix of a lightweight coded game and a stupid spaggetti code game
1 and 2 are light as frick to the point they came on CDs instead of DVDs on the PS2
3 onwards is fricking badly coded to the point it makes yandere sim look competent
Honestly, every single game made by NIS is like this, remember how metalica's game melted down PS3s?
>remember how metalica's game melted down PS3s?
i'm pretty sure this only became an issue once the american team got their hands on it and managed to break the fricking game while translating it, same with the dd2 issues
Anon, no matter how bad the translation is content-wise, it is just a simple code injection to enable a text toggle between two text libraries that represent the whole story text
If your game had a huge ass memory leak because of some simple as frick mod being added to it, the base code was already fricked and hanging by a single thread
Be careful if you say their games aren't optimized some schizo will say you are a tendie or something like that. Honestly everyone should agree that they should just have stayed with the 2d sprites.
>2d sprites
They were better, but "reviewers" and sites do keep the trend of >better graphics = better game
Despite nintendo clearly showing everyone that it is not true
>6 crashes on the Switch >4 crashing if you picked a certain rifle demon voice >DD2 overheating from Tera Fire
how do you get called a tendie for that?
That might be true. Though, to be fair, I was initially baited into Disgaea assuming it to be a genuine SRPG with good character designs, when in reality, it's a fricking meme SRPG where making enormous numbers if the fun of it, but still with good character designs. I don't really like such mindless grinding.
>it's a fricking meme SRPG where making enormous numbers if the fun of it
That's literally the marketing shtick they use since the beginning. You might just be too moronic for your own good.
That would be insinuating I bought into it because of official marketing and not some anon like 8 or 9 years ago telling me it would be pretty good if I was looking to scratch my then srpg itch.
It scales to the highest level in your party, so if you're overleveling a single unit with no other boosts, you'll get creamed. But they have shit equipment and no extra stats, so you can power through them pretty easy if you also have that overleveled unit drink a bunch of stat boosts from the Juice Bar.
Killia wanted his titcow gf back or something from her incestuous brother and possessive father I think? It was kinda boring and the only other thing I remember was the dicky bunny force feeding the girl who killed her parents.
J-SRPG with everything cranked to 12 just to be as silly as possible. Starts off pretty simple like any other SRPG "hey this weapon is +10 ATK, this special ability attacks in a 3 block line", but then suddenly its "every single item contains a dungeon and you picked up monsters and stacked them into one super-monster and btw have 14 billion HP"
a story and characters to go along with it, very tongue in cheek, just expect constant silliness, something like Neptunia except in the Underworld instead of the virtual world. like one of the first really memorable bits is your party all making fun of an early boss for just being a "midboss" and not an important character - this becomes an ongoing bit with that character.
great anime art ofc from a NIS game, Disgaea loves flat girls wearing as little as possible.
>Can afford the game without hurting my finances >Know I will enjoy the game >But if I buy the ultimate edition I would support further predatory prices
I'm really conflicted
>get fuji 2 stars in each class >reincarnate >level him back to what he was before >he now absolutely tears ass at level 50
i wish the early stars were worth less base stats/stat growth/whatever to be not as broken as quickly. i guess he will probably carry me a fair bit through the story now.
Also surprised MT1 doesn't even get much easier to grind after beating it once. i could finish the one guy in the initial map configuration with the right evilities but now the 5 dragons are way stronger.
I probably shouldn't anyway. main story difficulty is already broken so hard it's crying in the corner.
The Disgaea 4 PC port came out after 5. The company was hurting for money, and that was a way to get some quick cash flow. Disgaea on PC has a weird history.
First they released 1 and 2. 2 didn't sell well, so they jumped straight to 5 since it has sold gangbusters on Switch a bit before. Then They released 4, then 6 not long after its Switch release, and now 7's released simultaneously with the console versions for the first time. So now we're only missing 3 and DD2 thanks to them jumping around.
there's strategy involved in how to make your numbers the bigger numbers.
Tons of passive abilities on each character and class that you can pass around and mix and match as you see fit and how you wanna build your units.
And the final post game challenge usually has stats + weird gimmicks that you won't brute force with sheer numbers and need a good setup for.
You can play the game as strategically or as gorilla mode as you want. It has all the usual SRPG mechanics to consider like positioning, elevation- pretty much what you'd expect. It also encourages team attacks and chaining combos when you can, and there's hundreds of passive abilities and dozens of classes to play around with. But you can also just get to level 9,999 in the first chapter and flick everything away if you feel like doing that instead.
Yes. I did some post content of previous entries but never grinded like a coalmining Black person, I like the characters more and the gameplay is serviceable enough.
so most of the strategy is more in how to build the characters instead of battles?
That's a lot of it. They didn't mention that stages in the campaign tend to be laid out like puzzles, with different colored panels giving effects like enemy stats x3, Recover 20% HP, etc. Most of the strategy comes from how you deal with those effects without showing your butthole. You can have your whole army pick each other up and toss them to the other side of the map to rush down whatever the biggest problem is, but it'll leave your units scattered and with their turns taken up. Knowing when to push and when to turtle up is really important if you aren't overleveling.
No... The other anons were talking about the stats but there is lift and throw mechanics. Specials. Team attacks, geo panels... Item world and post game are harder than the main game itself that you can just destroy it with big numbers alone.
You can play the game as strategically or as gorilla mode as you want. It has all the usual SRPG mechanics to consider like positioning, elevation- pretty much what you'd expect. It also encourages team attacks and chaining combos when you can, and there's hundreds of passive abilities and dozens of classes to play around with. But you can also just get to level 9,999 in the first chapter and flick everything away if you feel like doing that instead.
I'm not paying shit for a game that has the grinding gameplay loop of a gacha but with a $60 price tag. If you're going to give the same fricking gameplay a mobile game has, charge the same amount AKA fricking nothing.
Just woke up, time to get back at it. Guess i'll hit item world for the first time and then continue with the story for a bit, i want to make this game last at least until next year if I can
is character world still in the game? It was really boring ans slow in D5 and I hope there is a faster alternative in this one.
Also, how hard is the end game?
>do first demon shogi stage >set up D.I. to pick up and throw the prinny >only picks it up, ends the turn >"what the hell" >do it step by step instead of fully automatic >actually picks up the prinny and throws it in the same turn
Is this shit scuffed?
Also i really don't like this. since you have to do it in 1 turn for the max reward you end up making hyper specific solutions instead so these might as well be normal stages with the twist of being fixed units and more of a puzzle. but instead you have to deal with the shitty D.I. menu.
Yes. I did some post content of previous entries but never grinded like a coalmining Black person, I like the characters more and the gameplay is serviceable enough.
Is this the worst story campaign ever? >like half to two thirds of stages are "boss" fights >"bosses" are recycled a ton, fight each at least 3 times, sometimes right after one another >stages that need to be cleared are pretty boring, no clever stage hazards
Pretty lame overall
>no clever stage hazards
Can't remember a single geo-based main campaign level in 1-4 that was interesting. It's always tower to the end to destroy the geo block or avoiding -70MV -480%HP traps. There were a few cool dark world/x-dimension puzzles, but that's it.
The only downside to playing it "normally" is that healing has never been balanced. Even a massively underlevelled healer will be able to heal a group of units to max so as long as you don't get one shot and your healer doesn't get sniped you can't lose.
It looks like an early 3D iPhone game from the late 2000s
it looks like an HD 3D DS game
We all want the sprites back, they don't even have to be HD, just hire some sprite artists and embrace the budget game look
The game was patched with a lot of the more obvious problems fixed on day 1. There's no fan-made patches that I'm aware of yet. I assume anyone inclined to make one wants to wait a bit to see how NISA handles it first.
I played 1, 2, 3 (over 300h on it alone, frick baal and his map of over tuned majin homies) and 4 till my save corrupted on my Vita
Should I play 5 and 6 before or should I go straight for 7?
Am I missing anything besides the grinding?
I heard 4 was peak story in the new ones, but it was ok from what I saw
4 has the best gameplay and most content while still retaining the old Disgaea writing.
5 is okay, it changes a lot, depending on who you ask for the better or worse, but the writing is abysmal. It's pretty much a perfectly played straight WSJ story
6 is awful
Dunno about 7 yet, I'm barely in Chapter 4 but so far it seems okay. Much better than 6 at least
Baal is not satisfying either, a few maps of over stupid hard challenges where the only strategy is BRING BUFF homieS
You can't even carpet bomb them with buff prinnies because of the way the map is laid out
hours and hours grinding on item world to basically a "thats it?"
Frick that
Any grindan autismos know if the game's story is good? I know for a lot of people, they'll go >Disgaea story, but god 5 was unbearable for me aside from some key points and 6 I didn't bother with due to being burned by 5 and seeing how much of a tech demo 6 was
how necessary is getting the dlc for a complete experience? is it just fan service i can ignore?
its a shitton of content you're missing out on and stuff that makes the endgame easier. i would highly recommend using a DLC unlocker if you have a legit copy of the game, or just pirating everything if you aren't willing to pay for the DLC.
what kind of content?
the bonus stories and bonus characters would be the most important. the characters have some exclusive evilities (abilities)
>and stuff that makes the endgame easier.
Like turning down the 300 hour grind to a 280 hour grind? Frick Disgaea's end game.
I have done all the end game and hardest superbosses in every Disgaea but 6 and have not spent over 100h in any of them.
If there's one thing I learned about Disgaea fans, they have no fricking concept of time. Like I have 156 hours in Disgaea D2 before I dropped it. I don't have any character with fully upgraded Trapezohedrons nor do all my characters have them, and my Laharl hasn't even capped Reincarnations, let alone max stats. That's one fricking character; if I wanted a full roster I still have 9 to go—and that's assuming I never want to switch up the roster. Barely had any of the max rank weapons either.
I just got too bored about repeating the same reincarnation thing over and over when there was no longer anyway to optimize it further, and the item world shit was getting old as well. Even with all that work I couldn't even survive the superboss's per-iniative attack.
Disgaea is a great series if you wanna lose the notion of time, I have clocked 200 hours on 6 and I fricking despise that game.
>they have no fricking concept of time
What does have a "concept of time" are the counters on my save files.
And no, you don't need anywhere even remotely close to 156 hours to beat DD2 Baal, even if that is his hardest incarnation out of all the games.
Of course you can just spam the first stage in the game for a thousand hours and still not come close to beating him, but that's obviously not what we are talking about here.
I'm sure you mean that shit where you get one character up to max stats and then put DLC evilities on them, right? Yeah, real fricking fun tactical game.
And no, it was using the Trial Caverns whatever to level up between item world runs to try getting end game items and innocents. I didn't focus on just one character, but even the one I was trying to get way ahead was still way behind being able to face him.
Of course I didn't look up anything beforehand, so no guides, and while I didn't minmax as hard as I could, I still went out of my way to do methods I didn't like in order to grind more efficiently.
But please, tell me how Disgaea post-game isn't 300 hours of fricking grinding. The main story wasn't even 20 hours if I recall.
You sound schizophrenic.
I am honestly not sure what to tell you anon. Are you maybe watching all the animations and so on? People usually skip those.
Even howlongtobeat has DD2 at under 100h for completionist and those estimates are usually rather high to be more on the safe side.
>Howlongtobeat
Yeah, about that.
It also has very little polled.
I 100%'d the data collection on D4 Vita for the Trophy and that took me about 160h total but that's also the biggest Disgaea game with the most stuff to do and that trophy alone took around 50h of going through the Item World, capturing/interrogating, and hunting for Fun weapons
That's the only Disgaea I have more than 100h in and I did everything and all achievements in all of them except for D6
Anon, the point of disgaea is to maximize the efficiency of your grind, not just to grind forever. I suck at the efficiency shit but I'm not going to complain about not knowing which enemies to combine so that I can still one-shot them even though they are a higher level than me.
Just out of curiosity, is your 'need' after 1000s of hours of experience and minmaxing the shortest path to achieving this?
Because it feels like you're setting unrealistic expectations, which seems to be a massive problem with veteran Disgaea players. Like I'm looking up what people reported their playtimes as and you just sound full of shit.
Like the guy above says it's "overstated" but it really just doesn't seem to be overstated in the least.
The grind is massively overstated and isn't over 100 hours in any game unless you're bashing your head against a power gap wall rather than trying to cheese past it.
i hate that this guy doesn't commit
actually makes you dislike the art
its post game stuff, the main story is essentially unchanged without it. if youve played the previous games, the DLC is the little cameos with prior protags with a little fanservice scene and unlocks them as playable characters
Because the porn is free
literally this, I never understood why people play porn games or softcore/ecchi games. Just look at porn.
Playing and watching is different
you should really stop asking chat gpt for edgy content.
Just grow up bro it’s actually not embarrassing at all.
I like her ribs
I haven't finished the first one yet
BECAUSE GODDAMNED FRICKING israeliteS DISTRIBUTED THIS FRICKING PIECE OF SHIT SHOVELWARE ON STEAM FOR 60 DOLLARS THEN AN 80 DOLLAR RELEASE WEEK ONLY PACK GO FRICK YOURSELVES GREEDY FRICKING israeliteS. YOU RUINED VIDEO GAMES. have a nice day SON ON A prostitute I FRICK YOUR ENTIRE HOOKNOSED GODDAMN FAMILY IM NOT PAYING FOR THIS FRICKING SHIT GAME FRICK THIS SERIES FRICK NISA israeliteS israeliteS israeliteS israeliteS
I bought D1 20 years ago for $60. Kys
I was very surprised the PS5 version was still only 60 bucks, but then again i can't really see them charging 70 for this game, especially now that theyre using cheap looking 3d chibis instead of the sprites. God i miss the sprites.
Its not your game. You're just DLC.
God I wish Etna was real.
She’ll be my first custom android/sex slave
I don't like the jumbo system. How do I beat the first boss with the jumbo system? Another guy in the last thread suad to build up combos but when I did Fuji missed and the boss just one shot him and then an enemy monk jumbo'd and killed the rest of my team. I just think they should have stopped with the limit break thing they did with Fuji
Just go to the shop, buy all the best shit, load it up on your best unit, and jumbify them. Shouldn't be too hard.
>start with a succubus
>class isn't unlocked
Part of the costume DLC.
Imagine if the first fap of your life was Etna.
Does anybody know an easy way to get the angel cake or whatever it's called bribe item? You need it to unlock Maiko, and you need that to unlock something else.
Apparently it's a TL error and any consumable will do.
The diamond next to the quest still isn't purple.
Yeah my bad, I'm thinking of the one for cliones
Got Disgaea 2 for $4 instead. Superior game for just a couple of pennies. What a world.
I can't support how bad the 3D and attack animations look. Not enough focus on flats.
Too poor, dood.
I did but it's going to take a while for them to ship it to me
Yar
Yarmao even
I bought it, It is just that I live on a 3rd world shithole and it doesn't ship until next week.
god i love flat girls so fricking much
Disgaea? more like you're dysgenic, OP.
is there a way to hide those buttom prompts at the bottom of the screen?
they are huge as frick on 4k
>Plug in my Xbox controller with a USB cable
>Xbox buttons pop up
>Connect my controller through bluetooth
>PS4 buttons pop up
grind my lips on etna's tummy and pllblblt
Don't you have criminals to catch, L?
I dont want goofy grinding games. I want to do an incredibly shitty job protecting witch smiles
Blacky succeeded in protecting his witch's smile in the end.
Blacky is also an abomination made from a eldritch monster's flesh and blood while tractie was made from words and paper and fantie is made from girl cum and a lantern.
I think the bigger advantage Blacky has is movable limbs that allow him to do something other then getting carried around by a bunch of puppets.
15 guys and 25 cats cannot compare to functioning arms and legs.
But dood. Laharl is technically half-witch.
Normal ending in the first game everyone got is the shitty smile protection he recieved.
Girl Laharl is the best character in this franchise.
breasts
>want to be an idol
Nah, the prinny from the prinny games are the best character in this whole franchise
The games are also the best games in this whole franchise
is a particular one better or i should play the older one first? and what is better for a complete newb. i don't know shit about these games except i have them on my wishlist forever because i like witches.
2nd one got shoved out the door half-finished due to budget problems. The farther in you get the less well designed it gets and it shows.
Play Refrain first. It has some minor call backs to it in Galleria on top of having better labyrinths to explore. Galleria's rushed development led to things getting cut and needing to rely on random map generators for sections of the game, holding it back some. Both have a great story and while Galleria did have some gameplay improvements, Refrain is the better experience to play.
Nacho didn't fricking deserve it bros.... I genuinely hope the next witch game expands on what happens to eureka cause that's just too sad to leave her wandering hopelessly in a nachiless world, with only dreams to remember her by.
>I genuinely hope the next witch game expands on what happens to eureka
I feel like she'd get a passing mention at most, if we even get a fourth game in the series.
with how much Luca was implied to be nachi's real mom and how she issued the last request as well as the hologram lady mentioning her plans would not go as she wanted. An overarching narrative is starting to form for the series and I really hope nis gives him another game so he can expand on it.
How in the frick did they greenlight this game. This is the total opposite of a money maker, and the total opposite of "trying to appeal to a broader audience" (both because it's a drpg and because of its themes). But I'm so happy they did. Too bad this kind of risky game is so rare nowadays.
And even more unbelievable, it got a fricking sequel.
Some exec at nis really likes izumi for his weird gameplay ideas or for his incredibly dark writing. Probably the latter with how fricked up galleria got and how he got told to cut that one sprite.
>that one sprite
post it
ok
https://files.catbox.moe/4meziu.png
Labyrinth series may as well be hentai games.
If only they stopped being COWARDS and add a 18+ block option.
if they had porn in them they would have way less impact. Them being cutesy at the start and devolving into hell is the best part
Yeah that's why you only the porn for ryona and rape scenes that happen to the MCs
>receive note that says to draw ten year old boy getting eaten by royalty
>doesn't explain how they are eaten
Never played this game, how does the kids gotten eaten?
Anons moronic they find a kids fresh corpse and eat it, then they hired people to kidnap live kids then ate them
I hate how she has one huge boob and one small boob.
what's even the context behind this one, I don't remember a scene where this would be relevant
with how insecure the prince was and how confused he was sexually I could totally see that happening and fantie roaming in on it as a cat to hint at his (her) gender and sexuality problem.
i will now not play your troony game
the troony is never portrayed in a favorable light tries to force the main character to pleasure a donkey and threatens to have her guards rape and kill the main duo if she doesn't. She also is getting molested by her uncle.
Also ends up in the fricking guillotine in both timelines lmao.
adding on to that eureka having her undress in front of her probably replaced what that scene could've been but this is pure speculation because it was cut.
i hope you die spoilerhomosexual
I still have to play 4 5 and 6
2 and 7 are the only disgaeas worth playing
6 isn't even worth a mention, 4 and 5 anret for speedrshing both are great on their own ways and shouldn't be less than 100 hours on each
I hate etna so much, I can't even bring myself to jerk off to her anymore. Holy shit she's awful.
Flanderization doesn't even begin to cover it
t. Laharl
>I can't even bring myself to jerk off to her anymore.
Don't say that. You're scaring me, dood. This isn't like you.
waiting for Etna nude mods
yes for the chibis as well
>3d
>have to pay separately for Laharl
I wanted to play your series Etna but I'm on PC and your PC port of 1 is a fricking mess and I want all the characters and not even modders really figured that shit out.
>PC port of 1 is a fricking mess and I want all the characters and not even modders really figured that shit out.
Have you actually tried to use all that and put it together? It's not so great and that should come with a lot of asterisks, unless it got updated?
The way the characters are split in the DLC is exceptionally israeli.
Don't buy them, if you don't want to pirate the whole thing then creamapi apparently works. Frick them.
the etna flonne duo was probably the last interesting thing about that series. Disgaea 2 with the mc and the demon princess was also fun.
Everything after is a poor clone.
what the frick is a boost ticket and where can I see how many I have?
Just noticed they added fricking PVP. Do PVP affect the single player game? Was the game balanced around PVP?
No, no. It's just there for power autists after Carnage Baal. And even then it doesn't seem worth doing.
Thanks! Good to know. May pirate it one of these days.
It's all autobattle minmax shit where you make no battle decisions so it basically doesn't exist.
>all classes have male and female versions in this game
how the frick am i supposed to pick? I dont think i've ever had a female ninja or male samurai, but i love the ones i'm used to
If it wasn't for Yeyasu and pii-chan I would be on a fricking harem.
Mage feet
Evilities?
I'm still getting used to those, I haven't played one of these since D2, but yea i guess that should be the deciding factor rather than chibi booba. For now I'm just trying to get a little ways into the story and unlock classes before i really get into it, just got Ceefore but haven't finished that chapter
Archer's crimes are so vile that Healer had to open her eyes to witness it. That evil flatty must pay for this.
is the ultimate edition worth the money should i care bout the dlc bros
No modern game is worth $100 anon.
id pay $100 for sa3
Just fricking play frontiers anon, I played it and only people with a hateboner for Sonic hates it.
https://github.com/pointfeev/CreamInstaller
you should care about it but dont pay for it like a good goy
im a good boy who pays for his games
how has this dogshit series run for 7 games
Shut the frick up Black person
Is actually 8 but who cares.
It's crazy how 5 is so much better in every way like graphics, music, animation, features, level design, everything compared to both 6 and 7, it's like they didn't even try.
I even forget that geo panels exists when playing 7.
At least pirilika voice is cute.
I hate the jump to chibi so damn much, who the frick monkey pawed us, I would have preferred if the series ended at 5
I hate it how every special attacks has you moved to a different screen for the animation.
Everything before 5 didn't do this.
That and the spinning in mid air enemies, holy frick it looks bad
What are your starter mooks' names?
Sky Cat the female warrior
Kyoko the healer
Gaines the prinny
Warrior: Kira
Cleric: Serena
Prinny: The Boss
Lowell the prinny
August the prinny
Grune the prinny
i'm playing disgaea 1
cause it's 100bux and I'm a cheapskate.
I might still end up getting it because Gunslinger's back
Just pirate it, it doesn't have denuvo
NIS is one of the only devs I actually kind of feel bad for pirating games from
Same it's why I buy all their games
Just buy the base game anon.
Whatever you do with the game files that you bought and own with your money after that is none of their business.
I did. I gotta get to grindan again.
I'm mostly using an Armor Knight as my wall. She's able to take no damage from Jumbo enemies once I Shield and Braveheart her, but once I Jumbo her she get's oneshotted. Kinda lame.
Then again I just started Episode 3.
Does Pleinair's evility (+30%exp/mana to all) stack if I copy it and put it on other units?
This is Disgaea so yes, it loves it when you stack shit.
Do we have young characters on Disgaea 7? I don't care about tit monsters.
Disgaea is either young and flat or titty monsters. It's the inbetween that's rare.
There's a couple oppai e-girls but no flat hags
>couple oppai e-girls
There is?
I don't remember harada doing oppai e-girls
Sea Angels have big boobs
They are not really e-girls
Considering Rainier's an adult, yeah I'd say they are.
my beloved, hopefully she comes back before they file for bankruptcy
D7 is a very rebooblican game but of course there are flats here and there
Piririka is literally one mosquito bite away form being Archer tier of flat anon.
Nonsense. She's just a normal C.
pls be dlc costume
For girls, there's Ao, who is daughterfu. For boys, there's Suisen, who is a young Data.
IS Disgaea 6 as bad as people make it out to be?
Is the story fun at least?
No, not even /ss/ makes it half enjoyable.
The story is fine, with the one detail that annoyed me was little boss variety with barely changing up each God of Destruction fight
Honestly I really liked the character cast, which sucks since they're still trapped in a mechanically flawed as frick game as 6
Why didn't they get to dlc cameo in 7? is 6 going to be memory holes because it flopped due to lacking content rather than being poorly written?
There's a schizo theory going around that NIS knows that the characters are the only thing people praise about 6 so they don't want to put them in 7 because then no one would have any reason to play 6. It's stupid, but the only other reason I can think why they're not in 7 despite all the models already being there is that they don't want to look lazy or something.
Companies usually like to pretend failed projects don't exist but Disgaea usually do takes a while to release al the DLC, so D6 cast still has a chance to appear
>Have over 80 generic units
>can't dump them in the Research facility anymore
How the frick do I level them all up?
Exp Squad?
>can only dump 7 units in the squad compared to a shitton of units back in D5 and D6
Nah don't give me that bullshit.
Okay, but do that with Prinny Instructor/Prinny Hat.
base game or ultimate edition?
any idea who the english voice actress for pirilika is? she sounds kinda familiar
>Was planning to get the switch version
>See all the dlc
Holy shit man, i think i'll get the steam one instead...
Pleinair...floats?!
Always has been.
she always has
Flat is justice!
Women always burst into laughter when they spot a tiny dick. But heaven forbid a man for pointing out that a women might be underdeveloped in the chest area.
I don't think it is as comparable as people think it is
a micro dick is pathetic because we as a species evolved to be size queens, and because a bigger dick (up to a certain point) means more pleasure meaning the female will stick around more
meanwhile fat breasts pre lactation period is an attractive but a moot point since post lactation period both small and big breasts end up producing almost the same amount of milk for the offspring
This is even shown in how although most of the male population likes big breasts, small breasts are not a deal breaker, but a small hip/ass is, since a wider hip is linked to an easier time to birth the next-gen
tl;dr
big breasts, big ass is great
small breasts, big ass is also great
big breasts small ass and small breasts small ass is a tragedy
where pirate
Is there even a lore reason behind the D6 moronic numbers from the get-go?
I don't think so, but I'm pretty sure promotional material said and even within the game Zed had already super reincarnated a bunch of times.
Sorry idk how to grab a picture from the pdf so I cropped a screenshot.
Trying to figure out any kind of power scaling in this series is moronic.
Doesn't matter how much or how little I grinded Laharl in Disgaea 1, he keeps being just the right level for my characters to beat him at the start of the post game.
>Trying to figure out any kind of power scaling in this series is moronic.
There actually is two things, D5 gave most of the characters overloads so even if they aren't an overlord in name they're basically one if they have it, and some characters skills say that it can beat overlords or they fear it or whatever. That's it, can't even use the playable character card because of some lose in the cutscene against returning characters
The lore reason is that zed reincarnated a lot of times and he need to defeat the god of destruction that is a super boss type character but in the main story. For everything to make sense they inflated the numbers.
i just started the game but why do my monsters have like 20 hp? they get oneshot by everything
Because Disgaea in general gives 0 fricks about monsters.
Level them up some and throw a muscle on them to beef them up.
Monsters need more help than other classes to get going, which makes sense as the series base monster class is literal cannon fodder.
I heard the DLC was bugged.
Depends on the platform or the DLC we're talking about, wouldn't recommend it if you're at all money conscious at the moment. though.
I spent around 150 hours in D5 probably because I was just enjoying it. Really didn't like the extract grinding however, but I don't know how necessary that was when item world grinding seems to be the most important thing besides class mastery in that game, and that one doesn't take all too long, it's just somewhat tedious. I wonder if 4's postgame is better, not that I disliked 5's.
4's postgame felt a lot more involved than 5's. 5 was kind of a light stroll, 4 had a lot of shit going on.
Is there a DLC unlocker for 7? Where do I get it?
Are bunnies in this game, like the ones from 5?
>longass map with the boss all the way in the back
>jumbo my unit and nuke the boss to end the map instantly
Who the frick greenlit this hilariously broken mechanic?
And what's funny is they do the boss thing a lot. 13 magistrates+all the final bosses, a lot of who make multiple appearances. It's like they want you to exploit it.
So uuuh...
How the frick do I beat axel dlc?
It's literally scaling with my level, every attack is just miss
>axel
His evilities make him invincible. You have to throw him on the damage tiles and box him in.
D7 story is actually go-
Frick off, Pirilika's dad is hilarious.
If you were playing with japanese audio like you should this would be nothing, Piririka is saying パパ上様 since chp1 and is fricking hilarious.
>Hub theme doesn't have lyrics
gay
pre-order canceled
I'M MOVING ON
I really don't want to spend $104.
then dont'. Buy the base game and pirate the whole goddamn thing.
Yeah. Do it now before they patch it and you have no choice but to actually pirate it.
Does male armour knight get the x20 counter evility?
Trying to decide on a generic for my self insert.
Male and female get totally different evilities. You could scroll it from a female though.
I just want guest characters back
What does Metallica smell like?
A swamp you dumb Black person can't you read
I never played a Disgae game, do I have to start with the first one or can I just pick the newer one?
Start with the first one, if you like the setting and the gameplay all the other entries are more of the same but with lots of QoL introduced.
1 to 5 is good.
6 is disastrous.
7 is their attempt to fix what went wrong with 6 but still inferior in every way compared to 5.
>do I have to start with the first one
no, but you should
After 6 they should be happy I haven't forgotten the entire series and started claiming I never liked them at all.
Do ya like the grindan game Anon?
yea but only when I play as an immovable thing/ object
Disgaea scares me, because I know there's at least one autist out there that plays literally nothing but Disgaea. Like that's the entirety of his video game hobby - grinding out these games up to insane numbers- and he'll keep doing it until he dies.
That disturbs me.
I know a guy who does this but for Monster Hunter
Still autistic but monster hunter does offer some variety from game to game and wep to wep.
That's me.
Hi Anon.
so what?
>Flonne
>Evility that calculates any damage involving fists with RES instead of ATK/HIT
>Her fist affinity is C-tier
What did NIS mean by this?
Blame D2
Apparently, it only calculates normal attack fist damage into RES and not any sort of skill damage.
Why the frick can't her uniques scale on RES or INT?
>it only calculates normal attack fist damage into RES and not any sort of skill damage.
You sure about that? I don't doubt NIS moronation but they got it right with 5.
Tasty angel tummy and armpits
Never forget what they took from us.
Is this from the gacha?
Yeah
>11 hours in
>just done with chapter 4
How is the performance on switch? Anyone know?
I heard it has performance mode but 6 looked like absolute shit.
Is 7 blurry as frick too?
better performance than 6 but is still shit beyond redemption, I still will get it on switch because playing on portable is godsend but if I had access to a Deck I wouldn't even think it twice.
You get 30fps most of the time. The only time the fps drops was when I tried to control any jumbified units (It's fine when there are jumbified units on field until I tried to control them)
How do Nekomatas look in nu-Disgaea? Do they look good as 3D chibis?
>Disgaea without fanservice
Into the fricking trash
What the FRICK are you talking about?
Disgaea 7 is wef compliant slop with no fanservice
Every Disgaea after 5 is soulless EA/Ubi/CoD-style annual release franchise-milking shovelware.
Actual moron, time between 6 and 7 was two years in JP alone
Dude is moronic. 6 was casualized in part to bring in new players, but also because they made a new engine for it so they were light on content as a result. NIS has used proprietary engines for ALL their games except for Disgaea 4.
Oh no, he's moronic.
>Dude you are like totally wrong!
>No I’m not gonna post anything lewd from 7, just call you moronic!
Post fanservice from 7 and I will concede
I don't own the game you fricking goon, I said so literally in the post you quoted, that is why I am asking.
Also that's not how it works, you came here making these claims, YOU need to provide evidence or frick off.
>posting proof of something that doesnt exist
You are not very smart
Whatever moron, just frick off already.
Or keep bumping the thread I guess, your call.
But surely you have proof to your claim of no fan service right?
Do the bonus screen art and Omega/Tera spell arts with the guest artists count?
i want to SMASH fuka's head in with her bat
I'll pretend Etna's to be a vertical censor bar.
I have not played anything beyond 5, are these people being moronic or is there anything to these claims?
No, there's just a moron mindbroken by Killia not sperging eveey 3 lines like Valvatorez
>Disgaea without fanservice
Shouldn't laharl be dead there because of his weakness?
the succubus jumbobility turns him female so it's okay
god imagine etna at that size
Any nude mods yet?
I was promised day 1 nude mods.
These games look cool. How hard are they? Are they grindy? Should I play these games in release order?
Relatively gentle difficulty curve that has milestones. Disgaea practically invented GRIND. The mechanics of each game get progressively more involved, and the stories are usually self-contained.
Is it a game where I have to grind(like repeating final fantasy random encounters) or is it a game where I don't have to grind so long as I'm gud enough? If a game is easy, that why would one need to grind? Wouldn't the urge to grind imply that the game throws tough encounters?
It is THE grinding game. You keep playing to make numbers go up and beat up enemies with increasingly large numbers.
Think of Disgaea as a progenitor to idle games.
>How hard are they?
Difficulty is what you make it. If you spend a lot of time grinding and doing a ton of Item World while still doing the main story your team will probably stay pretty OP for the story levels.
You can also trivialize a lot of things by abusing gameplay mechanics and you're encouraged to figure out these exploits.
>Are they grindy?
See above. Generally yes but it's usually a lot less tedious than grinding in most other games since Disgaea expects you to do it a lot and has tons of mechanics and levels designed specifically to facilitate efficient grinding.
>Should I play these games in release order?
I'd recommend starting with the HD remaster of 2 since it plays very similar to 1 but with slightly more refined mechanics and more forgiving difficulty early on and it has a story that stands alone well. Play 1 next after 2 if you like it.
>How hard are they?
It varies from entry to entry but generally no, not that hard.
>Are they grindy?
Beating the main story requires little to no grinding depending on how you play. I had to grind for story chapters back when I played the very first Disgaea but maybe I'm just dumb
>Should I play these games in release order?
Depends on your tolerance for non-HD sprites. Many people will say (and I agree) that the first one has the best story and that alone makes it worth playing, but in terms of gameplay and mechanics they got progressively better with each entry. I have only played up to 5 though, I hear 6 is pretty bad overall and I don't know much about 7 either.
>Another worthless titcow Disgaea
>Now with shitty 3D
skip
dw I usually buy 2-4 copies of these games
The 3D models are cute.
holy shit 3D is ugly, i think i'm just going to reinstall D5.
and these b***hes got nothing on Etna or Seraphina.
>Seraphina
Bottom tier trash
The guy you are quoting is a homosexual but you are wrong, Seraphina is cute.
what chapter do you get muscle mommy in?
Literally right after that fight.
She's kinda shit when you get her though because of her innate evility which doesn't get upgraded until later.
do i need to buy the dlc bros?
I'm genuinely feel bad for this niche game that it flopped in their main market Japan and in the west as well.
This game will never break mainstream because of the incompetent higher up devs
I haven't played disgaea since the first one.
Do I need to play the earlier games to get the full story?
No, they are all very much self contained.
Then I guess I'll emulate some of the earlier games first and buy the new one when it's on sale.
Which one you guys recommend?
I have not played 3 but honestly, you can't go wrong with 2, 4 or 5 imo
I really like the characters in 2 but the gameplay part is less good (but still good) than in the others.
4 has a cool protagonist if you can stomach one particular joke/personality trait being repeated ad-nauseam... which is honestly kind of standard for this series I guess.
5 is my personal favorite; I like the protagonist, I love almost all of the supporting cast, I liked the new units it introduced and it has great music as well. Gameplay wise it is also the most refined (if a bit casualized) out of the 2D mainline games.
while i can agree 5 is fun
>I like the protagonist
Killia is a complete non-character, what's there to like?
I liked his design and his voice but yeah, his personality falls a bit flat by himself, can't really argue much against that. I liked how the rest of the cast interact with him, I guess?
Not him but I like Killia because I think he's cool.
He'd get dog walked by Valz. HARD.
Okay?
Just saying he's a b***h with the personality of a Kraft single whose only redeeming trait is the company he keeps, and ALL of them are also one note caricatures of tropes.
Yeah that's true. I just think his moves and design are cool.
Yeah, he does look pretty hardcore, but God DAMN, did they go out of their way to sortie a damage control by adding that "cooking" element to his character in the D6 dlc.
>introduce overload, making some characters change form
>doesn't at least make them at least a special skill in 7
I fricking miss berserk usalia
>Killia is a complete non-character
Kinda one of the reasons why I like him and Adell is that they're not caricatures repeating the same joke over and over.
Adell is a caricature of the generic muscle over brains shounen protagonist with a traumatic backstory and pent up issues that never get resolved though.
Adell isn't an idiot, as seen with the geo-puzzle level
>tfw enjoy tactics games but not a pedophile
Disgaea 7 is perfect for you then
You know I think the disagaea games just tend to add to many characters that don't contribute to the story or hardly get any development. That's way I liked the first Disgaea since the first half of the game it's just Laharl, Flonne and Etna and the second half they onlly add Cpt. Gordon, Jennifer and Thursday.
Disgaea 5 could have done without Zeroken. Maybe I just hate him, I don't know.
OK not really hate him but I just very much don't care about him.
A lot of 1's story involved other characters outside the playable cast which kept it from feeling bloated
>Lamington
>Vulcanus
>Vyers
>Carter
>Zombie Kid whose name I can't be fricked to look up
>That's way I liked the first Disgaea since the first half of the game it's just Laharl, Flonne and Etna and the second half they onlly add Cpt. Gordon, Jennifer and Thursday.
i mean most disgaea only have a main party of 6-7(ignoring whatever joins in post game). but i guess the newer games frontload them too much and then never do anything with them.
And disgaea 5 felt so fricking formulaic, holy shit.
>chapter 1: first character joins
>chapter 2: second character joins
>chapter 3: third character joins
>chapter 4: fourth character joins
>...
>chapter n: first character has their character "development" chapter
>chapter n+1: second character has their character "development" chapter
>chapter n+2: third character has their character "development" chapter
>chapter n+3: fourth character has their character "development" chapter
>and then they just exist
I also didn't like the disjointed netherworlds in 5 and 6 and just hopping from world to world each chapter.
Only in chapter 3 of D7 so far but it's nice it has a more overarching theme even going from one world to the next.
You nailed my biggest problem with 5's story. The story being fun again is one of the things I give 7 credit for.
Because I refuse to give NISA money and I refuse to give devs with and NIS can frick off with all the new DLC shit too.
2 has the best ending
>still warm
Axels story was a mistake, I got baited into thinking they would do something awesome for side characters but it never happened.
It also feels bad that I want Labyrinth of Refrain cameos but it all eludes me.
>Labyrinth cameos
just skins for the humanoid characters would be enough.
Luca, Dronya, Tractie would be good characters. Attacks can be puppets, cameo pair attacks, Mezzaluca shenanigans.
is stinky weeb pussy good for you?
no go for a stinky witch instead
I don't play anime pedo shit.
What does the Enemy Strength cheat do? Just up enemy damage? Do I get more XP for beating enemies with it on?
it raises enemy levels, so anything that's derivative of it (xp, mana, etc,) also goes up.
Bought it, amazon just shipped my copy. I would rather buy the next numbered game than play the gachashit cancer that will end up dead.
But DRPG is the real Disgaea 6. It even has the sprites people want. The global version is already dead.
Any tactical RPG that has gacha has always been a hard pass for me. GFL clears the barrier because getting the characters are free.
Because Disgaea D2 was a massive piece of shit. I don't even want play a new one. I'll stick with 1 through 4.
Because e-girl animu shit is a crutch for a game with bad gameplay, and if I wanted to coom I would go on pornhub and look at real women like a neurotypical person
>You should open the Netherworld. Stop having it be closed.
fine I chuckled
Holy shit
first comment decides which version of the game i buy
base game, no dlc
pirate edition
This is important: is Usalia part of the DLC?
Comes with Beryl and girl Laharl in a set.
Yes.
what about Majorita?
Unfortunately no. The D5 cast got shafted pretty hard- just Killia, Usalia, and Seraphina. Of course, D4 gets every main character except Emizel.
SOLD
Hahaha this HAS to be an edit holy shit.
You can alter the character bios yourself.
It's an in game edit. You can change the text
and not a single gameplay in a threads like this..
It's a strategy RPG, dude. What are you really expecting to see?
>the enemy's name
nice try nisa employee
PvP? Baal?
I've noticed recently that any thread with a cute girl in the OP will inevitably get a moron going "BUT WHERE IS THE GAMEPLAY???"
>catsabers name
Maybe i will.
Lol.
LOL.
Same shit, different 3D model. What do you expect to happen?
Also
>PVP
L O L
O
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What's the point of this game? It seems like some kind of fire emblem type of outdated gameplay shit with a smokin' hot e-girl.
It's the Gurren Lagann of tactical RPGs. Take Final Fantasy Tactics and make it wacky anime style with over-the top animations and absurd stats and you have Disgaea.
>tactical RPG
What does that mean exactly? I love turn-based TTRPG combat for tactical combat the most, so I loved BG3. I guess this would be more like fire emblem? I also hear it's a grind fest? I don't like extraneous grinding.
Tactical RPGs refer to grid-based RPGs like Final Fantasy Tactics, Fire Emblem, or Tactics Ogre, to name some other examples.
>I don't like extraneous grinding.
Grinding IS the game, you pump up your dudes' numbers and see how absurd they get.
People enjoy it? Do they tend to be autistic?
From the way you write, you're a prime target for anything autism-related.
Projection + didn't answer the question
Thanks
>Projection + didn't answer the question
Lol, you're a bigger autist than all the Disgaea players combined.
>are this game's fans autistic?
>"NO U!!!"
Okay, gay.
You can play the main story as a traditional srpg without any grinding at all.
Yeah, more like Fire Emblem, Final Fantasy Tactics, Triangle Strategy- those kinds of games. And while the main gimmick that sets Disgaea apart from the others is how far you can exploit the system for Big Numbers, the main campaign is designed so that you can complete it without getting into the ridiculous grind. All of the games have demos if you feel like giving them a shot, but even though I'm a huge fan of Disgaea, I admit it's got very niche appeal.
>that mon hun pitfall trap
>they even put the small barrel bomb in
Kinooo
I have every disgaea in my switch except 6 and 7 cuz they run like garbage.
6 and 7 is pc for me.
Can anyone post the character with the biggest breast size from disgaea please?
Probably this, though Priere is sometimes drawn to be fricking massive, mostly in the gacha game.
defend this
No. I will, however, pirate this.
Where to get the DLC unlocker?
The usual places? SteamEmu auto-unlocks it.
they put those dlcs in every game.
>8$
>mix the characters so you have to buy at least two packs to get all the characters from one game
Pretty despicable
And i forgot
Pleinair is only available in the ultimate version
Etna is pure raw sex
Overpriced
Would buy it, if it was 30 bucks
I want to pirate but does the pvp or multiplayer matter that much?
>Unlock item world
>figure I'll do a couple floors to farm consumables
>bonus objectives only give item levels
>eh whatever, I'll go til I run out of bodies
>8 floors later and everyone has practically doubled their level
what the frick
The item world is a pretty slow place to level at in general.
Just use buffs, dood.
I was trying to get everyone caught up to fuji since he was 5+ ahead of everyone else, not cheese through the story.
>not just martial-1 to grind up your item ranks too
Luv killing me 5 homies on a square, simple as
That's slower after a while, buff exp gain is constant so you always gain the same amount of levels with each cast. It's much faster for a good while, plus it doesn't require any good equipment whatsoever
Buff using skills?
Are there any HIT or SPD buffs?
This, holy shit the item world is so overpowered. I did three 4-6 IW level runs when it first dropped and came out and got carried by it so hard it took me up to like chapter 9. Not that I'm complaining or anything. Just beat the main at 20 hours, feels good having almost a good of a story as D1 finally after 20 years, albeit minus the iconic stuff such as Prism Rangers, Midboss, Horse wiener, Etna, etc
Bot post?
What?
>my toaster took bg3, diablo4, remnant2, elden bling like a champ
>finally took a knee on nis game with constant freezes because cpu cant handle the same animation playing twice
i
kneel
yeah I've been getting the freezes on skill use too, but it's never taken more than 5 seconds to unfrick itself.
Just set battle animations to skip after first play if you still want to see them but not have it be unplayable.
Disgaea is a mix of a lightweight coded game and a stupid spaggetti code game
1 and 2 are light as frick to the point they came on CDs instead of DVDs on the PS2
3 onwards is fricking badly coded to the point it makes yandere sim look competent
Honestly, every single game made by NIS is like this, remember how metalica's game melted down PS3s?
>remember how metalica's game melted down PS3s?
i'm pretty sure this only became an issue once the american team got their hands on it and managed to break the fricking game while translating it, same with the dd2 issues
Anon, no matter how bad the translation is content-wise, it is just a simple code injection to enable a text toggle between two text libraries that represent the whole story text
If your game had a huge ass memory leak because of some simple as frick mod being added to it, the base code was already fricked and hanging by a single thread
Be careful if you say their games aren't optimized some schizo will say you are a tendie or something like that. Honestly everyone should agree that they should just have stayed with the 2d sprites.
>2d sprites
They were better, but "reviewers" and sites do keep the trend of
>better graphics = better game
Despite nintendo clearly showing everyone that it is not true
>6 crashes on the Switch
>4 crashing if you picked a certain rifle demon voice
>DD2 overheating from Tera Fire
how do you get called a tendie for that?
Don't forget
>metalica's game bricking PS3s
>Crossdressing does not exist!
>Everything has to be a troony!
Total troonylator death
did you even read the lines? that dialogue supports the idea that people can crossdress without being (mt)Female
Shut up, troony. The line's easily fixed to be non-agenda pushing, but troonylators just can't help themselves.
And that's why I don't buy NIS games anymore.
You mean you've never bought a nis game?
No Zetta no buy.
After d4 I forgot you even existed. I'm too old for grindan, barely dressed e-girl vidya now. I have a job, and family.
I miss the guy who use to make disgaea comics here though.
>I have a job, and family.
Not an excuse.
Sorry senpai, I will replay d1,2,3... maybe 4.
Also this, i miss when translators were pervy weebs who didnt have an agenda other than pervy weebness.
Should I? I'm 1 click away.
>$100
Frick no anon. 60 at best for a new game. Anything else can frick off.
If you're buying that you may as well get it from fanatical to avoid taxes.
Don't be stupid. It's not worth that price tag.
>buy game
>download game
>replace dll and setup dlc file
>refund game
do it homosexual.
Because the price is ridiculous for something I'll probably drop 20 hours in tops.
Disgaea is so fricking boring.
YOU'RE boring.
That might be true. Though, to be fair, I was initially baited into Disgaea assuming it to be a genuine SRPG with good character designs, when in reality, it's a fricking meme SRPG where making enormous numbers if the fun of it, but still with good character designs. I don't really like such mindless grinding.
>it's a fricking meme SRPG where making enormous numbers if the fun of it
That's literally the marketing shtick they use since the beginning. You might just be too moronic for your own good.
That would be insinuating I bought into it because of official marketing and not some anon like 8 or 9 years ago telling me it would be pretty good if I was looking to scratch my then srpg itch.
I bought 2, 4 and 5 for PC since I've only played 1. It's really annoying that 3 doesn't have a PC version of any kind.
Emulate it.
I'll have to after I finish 2, it's still annoying to have to go to that effort though.
>3D
>day one MTX
BG3 is way better than this garbage. play real turn based RPGs, weebs.
>Western slop
No thanks
Arcadian Vampire is my favourite hub theme.
Don't like grindan. Simple as.
Adell had the single most broken passive in D5.
When should I start the DLC story? I activated the DLC and went to try first DLC story at Lv3. I couldn't hit the boss.
the DLC assumes you have all mechanics unlocked and scales with level, its best to leave it to postgame
It scales to the highest level in your party, so if you're overleveling a single unit with no other boosts, you'll get creamed. But they have shit equipment and no extra stats, so you can power through them pretty easy if you also have that overleveled unit drink a bunch of stat boosts from the Juice Bar.
>actual gaming disgussion
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>LE SMEXY SUCUBBUS GIRL
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>finished Disgaea 5
>can't remember a single thing about it
Killia wanted his titcow gf back or something from her incestuous brother and possessive father I think? It was kinda boring and the only other thing I remember was the dicky bunny force feeding the girl who killed her parents.
The only thing i remember is Lieze not being playable for some god forsaken reason.
She would've just sucked.
Reminds me of Etna's brother not being playable in DD2.
Would have been way cooler than Barbara and the moron trio for a postgame character
Lieze coming back to life in the literal epilogue out of nowhere was so bizzare considering the entire game was MC getting over her death.
Albeit made me retroactively feel really bad for Seraphina
I remember the giga moronic """""plot"""""" about LoC in the postgame.
No writing in NIS game will ever top this.
never played this series whats it like and whys it good
also is pc ports best way to play or the vita i have both options for the games up to 4 i think?
Play everything but 3 on PC.
Play 3 on Vita because it never got ported.
J-SRPG with everything cranked to 12 just to be as silly as possible. Starts off pretty simple like any other SRPG "hey this weapon is +10 ATK, this special ability attacks in a 3 block line", but then suddenly its "every single item contains a dungeon and you picked up monsters and stacked them into one super-monster and btw have 14 billion HP"
a story and characters to go along with it, very tongue in cheek, just expect constant silliness, something like Neptunia except in the Underworld instead of the virtual world. like one of the first really memorable bits is your party all making fun of an early boss for just being a "midboss" and not an important character - this becomes an ongoing bit with that character.
great anime art ofc from a NIS game, Disgaea loves flat girls wearing as little as possible.
>no more team attacks
WTH
They are there just in a very different and shitty way.
Disgaea 1 is the only good disgaea game. The novelty was not made for a series but for a one-off.
How are DLCs for D4? Never had them on ps3.
Yeyasu is up there with the best character arcs in Disgaea. Faint praise admittedly, but still, I enjoyed it.
ToT
Any more D7 dicky?
Too expensive
How is zombie maiden is she fun?
HA
>Can afford the game without hurting my finances
>Know I will enjoy the game
>But if I buy the ultimate edition I would support further predatory prices
I'm really conflicted
Just don't.
But I want to play the game...
If I don't buy the character DLCs now I'll never play them again later once I'm done with the game this month.
Then just buy it since you can afford it
https://www.ovagames.com/disgaea-7-vows-of-the-virtueless-proper-rune.html
>get fuji 2 stars in each class
>reincarnate
>level him back to what he was before
>he now absolutely tears ass at level 50
i wish the early stars were worth less base stats/stat growth/whatever to be not as broken as quickly. i guess he will probably carry me a fair bit through the story now.
Also surprised MT1 doesn't even get much easier to grind after beating it once. i could finish the one guy in the initial map configuration with the right evilities but now the 5 dragons are way stronger.
I probably shouldn't anyway. main story difficulty is already broken so hard it's crying in the corner.
Why does every dark assembly win/lose make me blow my headphones out every time
I dunno guys. This feels like a pretty bad entry on the whole; people are just glad it's not 6.
Is 4 really this good?
The Disgaea 4 PC port came out after 5. The company was hurting for money, and that was a way to get some quick cash flow. Disgaea on PC has a weird history.
First they released 1 and 2. 2 didn't sell well, so they jumped straight to 5 since it has sold gangbusters on Switch a bit before. Then They released 4, then 6 not long after its Switch release, and now 7's released simultaneously with the console versions for the first time. So now we're only missing 3 and DD2 thanks to them jumping around.
>DD2 gets ported to PC
>it burns down GPUs
3 sucks
5 > 7 > 6
5>>7>6
Somone shill me this series. Why would I want to play it? What's the appeal?
do you like numbers? do you like big numbers? do you like big numbers go BIG? this is it, oh and some fanservice because yeah
It's like final fantasy tactics and fire emblem but with demon girls and big numbers
is there any strategy involved or is it bigger number always wins
There is some strategy but big numbers always brute force everything.
there's strategy involved in how to make your numbers the bigger numbers.
Tons of passive abilities on each character and class that you can pass around and mix and match as you see fit and how you wanna build your units.
And the final post game challenge usually has stats + weird gimmicks that you won't brute force with sheer numbers and need a good setup for.
so most of the strategy is more in how to build the characters instead of battles?
That's a lot of it. They didn't mention that stages in the campaign tend to be laid out like puzzles, with different colored panels giving effects like enemy stats x3, Recover 20% HP, etc. Most of the strategy comes from how you deal with those effects without showing your butthole. You can have your whole army pick each other up and toss them to the other side of the map to rush down whatever the biggest problem is, but it'll leave your units scattered and with their turns taken up. Knowing when to push and when to turtle up is really important if you aren't overleveling.
No... The other anons were talking about the stats but there is lift and throw mechanics. Specials. Team attacks, geo panels... Item world and post game are harder than the main game itself that you can just destroy it with big numbers alone.
You can play the game as strategically or as gorilla mode as you want. It has all the usual SRPG mechanics to consider like positioning, elevation- pretty much what you'd expect. It also encourages team attacks and chaining combos when you can, and there's hundreds of passive abilities and dozens of classes to play around with. But you can also just get to level 9,999 in the first chapter and flick everything away if you feel like doing that instead.
I'm not paying shit for a game that has the grinding gameplay loop of a gacha but with a $60 price tag. If you're going to give the same fricking gameplay a mobile game has, charge the same amount AKA fricking nothing.
>I have no idea what the gameplay is like but let me just have a guess
what's with all these morons coming in asking the same thing
Just woke up, time to get back at it. Guess i'll hit item world for the first time and then continue with the story for a bit, i want to make this game last at least until next year if I can
How is performance on switch for the new game?
Anyone know where I can get the D1 Complete APK?
>has half a dozen ways of playing the game
>decides to be a mobiletard
Disgusting
disgaea is bad for mobile, it will overheat your phone, same with danganronpa games, they hired a moron to port their games
is character world still in the game? It was really boring ans slow in D5 and I hope there is a faster alternative in this one.
Also, how hard is the end game?
>can speed up / skip everything BUT the jumbification cutscene
Whyyyyy
what? you can make it skip that in the settings
Where the frick do I get stealing hands, had like 3 but I used them and forgot where I got them from
You can buy a couple sightseeing in chapter 2's map.
Didn't like D1.
Any other one that's worth trying that's not a money grab?
NISA can suck a wiener
>80 for the game
>70 for the postgame
>0 for the game
>0 for the postgame
Just got 5 on Switch. I've never played one of these before, am I going to regret it?
at least you started with a good one
I don't like that generics keep getting worse and worse compared to uniques.
>I dont' play these games
ok and?
Uniques have always been trash
>I don't like that generics keep getting worse and worse
You're in the Item World and this guy slaps your waifu's ass
I slap his ass and marry him
>do first demon shogi stage
>set up D.I. to pick up and throw the prinny
>only picks it up, ends the turn
>"what the hell"
>do it step by step instead of fully automatic
>actually picks up the prinny and throws it in the same turn
Is this shit scuffed?
Also i really don't like this. since you have to do it in 1 turn for the max reward you end up making hyper specific solutions instead so these might as well be normal stages with the twist of being fixed units and more of a puzzle. but instead you have to deal with the shitty D.I. menu.
>zombie maid replaced by a zombie chink that can revive herself
Sounds great in the item world, they don't think these things through
They can buff, make someone go twice and make items useful? I thought the jiangshis were like the rabbits in 5.
Etna tummy is locked behind DLC
>original dalle mini could do etna to a T
>crayon did her ok
>new bing can't do it at all
We are somehow safe from aislop spam at least
Why is disgaea so fricking boring
will I regret buying this on switch?
Yeah
is this shit any fun if I am not autistic?
Yes. I did some post content of previous entries but never grinded like a coalmining Black person, I like the characters more and the gameplay is serviceable enough.
Is this the worst story campaign ever?
>like half to two thirds of stages are "boss" fights
>"bosses" are recycled a ton, fight each at least 3 times, sometimes right after one another
>stages that need to be cleared are pretty boring, no clever stage hazards
Pretty lame overall
i just hate the "defeat boss to win" condition. usually i just tower over and the stage ends right there.
>no clever stage hazards
Can't remember a single geo-based main campaign level in 1-4 that was interesting. It's always tower to the end to destroy the geo block or avoiding -70MV -480%HP traps. There were a few cool dark world/x-dimension puzzles, but that's it.
2's tournament arc had a geo puzzle stage no?
yeah
yep, 5 could be easily cheesed but at least the maps were decent
>no playable Zetta no buy
Disgaea always been about geoblocks, big numbers is just the endgame
The only downside to playing it "normally" is that healing has never been balanced. Even a massively underlevelled healer will be able to heal a group of units to max so as long as you don't get one shot and your healer doesn't get sniped you can't lose.
The game's graphics legit look like a late 6th
gen/early 7th gen console game
Meanwhile HD sprites were pretty timeless, other than when you got teleported to the empty room universe for skills.
It looks like an early 3D iPhone game from the late 2000s
it looks like an HD 3D DS game
We all want the sprites back, they don't even have to be HD, just hire some sprite artists and embrace the budget game look
Also make more prinny games
NISA has been getting shittier and shittier with their localization
How is D7 in regards of that?
Well shitty half copied google translate is better than fanfiction from unstable fatasses
I must bother you then, is there a translation patch for PC?
The game was patched with a lot of the more obvious problems fixed on day 1. There's no fan-made patches that I'm aware of yet. I assume anyone inclined to make one wants to wait a bit to see how NISA handles it first.
understandable, guess i'll too wait a bit
Thanks anon
Remember in D1 Etna doing the tutorials? Now it's just a soulless screen and caption
I played 1, 2, 3 (over 300h on it alone, frick baal and his map of over tuned majin homies) and 4 till my save corrupted on my Vita
Should I play 5 and 6 before or should I go straight for 7?
Am I missing anything besides the grinding?
I heard 4 was peak story in the new ones, but it was ok from what I saw
4 has the best gameplay and most content while still retaining the old Disgaea writing.
5 is okay, it changes a lot, depending on who you ask for the better or worse, but the writing is abysmal. It's pretty much a perfectly played straight WSJ story
6 is awful
Dunno about 7 yet, I'm barely in Chapter 4 but so far it seems okay. Much better than 6 at least
5 isn't bad
Play D2
The original cast hasn't been topped since their creation
Do NOT play DD2.
Like why? it is the regular gameplay with good story
Oh nice
And gotta agree D3 is kinda unsatisfying i got all the endings, but i skipped that baal, i no longer felt engaged enough to continue
Baal is not satisfying either, a few maps of over stupid hard challenges where the only strategy is BRING BUFF homieS
You can't even carpet bomb them with buff prinnies because of the way the map is laid out
hours and hours grinding on item world to basically a "thats it?"
Frick that
The only good thing in that game is Laharl with pants
I already did
also infinite
DD2 wasn't as bad as D3 on ps3, where i did those 300h
DD2 doesn't even have the original cast, not really.
They are at best caricatures of their former self.
DD2 is sitcom original cast
built for small prinny wiener, dood
how come you guys told me d7 wouldn't censor the artwork on the case but then they did? and how come your response now will be "IT DOESN'T MATTER"?
It doesn't matter because the cover is reversible, gay
>it won't happen
>it happens
>okay well it happened but who cares?
every time
>unlock Baal
>first fight is the lvl 9999 carnage version
Oh
I did, I just haven't played much yet.
Any grindan autismos know if the game's story is good? I know for a lot of people, they'll go >Disgaea story, but god 5 was unbearable for me aside from some key points and 6 I didn't bother with due to being burned by 5 and seeing how much of a tech demo 6 was
Why did they ruin chara world on 5? it was literally the worst chara world