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I love how Corvo commented this in his journal in D2. >I'm not diplomat so I failed...
I think Corvo failing to save Kalwin is more of an indictment against the Empress. Her reign was pretty short so people didn't really have a solid idea of her, so she may had ended up being a good ruler, but you would think the lady would police her inner circle better and that she'll use more resources available to her. I guess I can excuse the coup somewhat because it was pretty limited and only a few people seemed to be in on it, so it would be difficult to figure it out
but the Spymaster and Champell are obviously corrupt. If I was her, I would had at least removed the gross amohnt of power the Spymaster has. An in-game book stated the role can override the parliament and has a lot of leeway, so much so that the role is arguably only less powerful relative to the sovereign. Maybe I would have it that those powers are more of an emergecy that the crown or/and parliament may grant according the how bad the situation is. The role is so powerful to begin with because of how dire the Mortley Insurrection was apparently. It wouldn't be perfect but it'll serve as an obstacle to anyone with bad intentions. She's probably the most powerful person in the known world. She really can't just find some loyal subject to do the mission for her? Why send away a guy with no political experience whatsoever and whose entire role is to protect you? That's just asking for trouble, not to mention impractical and not really conductive.
There are no founding Fathers in Dishonored and the guy I mentioned used the clockwork soldier to oppress the common people.
The roughest equivalent is apparently that one emperor that started the empire in the first place. Since the empire is a consitutional monarchy and is more or less the British empire, it is safe to say that some things like an in-universe Manga Carta, The Golorious Revolution, and the Age of Enlightenment (Which may be occuring within the timeframe of the games.) happened, so you could say the people that will those events into action can be said to the Founding Fathers.
>Her reign was pretty short so people didn't really have a solid idea of her
But in books, papers and conversations everyone were pricing her as good ruler.
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I may wrong on this because I'm mostly basing my opinion on one in-game book, where it stated such things. I can't really recall anything specific the Empress has done but that could be because the game just thinks it isn't really needed to bother with that. I am a little hesitant because the same in game book also stated some things the previous Kaldwin has done to earn admiration. I have the impression the Jessamine was a popular ruler, partly to do with how she's coming from the good rulership of her father, but hasn't done anything actually significant. Probably maintained the peace before the plague but I'm afraid no more than that.
11 months ago
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Some characters states this >The Empress was the only thing that was holding everything together
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The characters are subject to their own biases and limited view points. It is also important to know these characters will state this in the middle of the worst parts of the Rat Plague. In such times, people may romanticize the past, partially as a way to act as a mental refuge. They may even have some credence to even think so. Even if Jassassmine hasn't done anything significant, her role as Empress would have a uniting factor. Her death was pretty disheartening and eroded a great deal of morale, which ties in with the chaos system now that I think about it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
If that ruler was able to hold everything together in such extreme time, it tells something
>The second game simply isn't canon
I really couldn't believe when they announced that the story for the second game would be just a repeat of the DLC for the first one
How creatively bankrupt you have to be?
>The second game simply isn't canon
This anon gets it
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Harvey is such a mid-level talent. Everytime he helms a sequel on it's own is a mediocre affair with little originality.
The frenchman really was holding Arkane together
>Delilah goes from a jealous baker's daughter to Jessamine's sekrit half-sister >Daud goes from accepting his role in his life to "AARGH IT'S ALL THE BLACK EYED BASTARD'S FAULT LET'S KILL HIM BILLIE" >devs too afraid of players thinking for themselves critically so they're straight up just told Emily is Corvo's daughter and the Heart's voice is the Empress because imagine having to figure that out during D1 >Outsider turned from an ancient whale god to "muh sacrified street rat" >neither Corvo nor Emily somehow react to Daud's audiograph showing he saved Emily's life 15 years prior >Emily has the super high IQ idea of dissolving the Abbey after D2's events even after they gave their life being Dunwall's last line of defense while their Empress was chilling in Karnaca because shit writers can't into nuance, think all dark magic users are goody two-shoes like Corvo and not insane psychopaths like Granny Rags
Not to mention what a huge retcon of the 1st game choices 2 is >Low Chaos: Emily ruled long and justly
SIKE homie
But out of all the retcons, the Outsider one was probably the worse. They completely killed his mystique and aura. And the new VA sucks
Not to mention that the Empire has fallen after DOTO events
11 months ago
Anonymous
It has? Why?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Audio file in Deathloop never mentioned reason, but judging how Tyvia was expanding its airbases near the border it could be other war
11 months ago
Anonymous
Because nu-Arkane hates Dishonored. Deathloop takes place in the Dishonored universe, in Tyvia centuries down the line and it confirms the Empire is no more. Emily destroyed all that came before, learned nothing from D2 and essentially made sure her mom's sacrifices were for naught.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Deathloop was suppose to be D3, but pitch was axed by Zenimax. So D3 story scraps still made it in Deathloop
11 months ago
Anonymous
Deathloop was suppose to be D3, but pitch was axed by Zenimax. So D3 story scraps still made it in Deathloop
What a shame.
I didn't play Deathloop because of cover Black folk, was it good? Did it make money?
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It was ok, but really lacked variety and details. Loop "mystery" was just liner story which solved itself. To beat the game you have to do exact same actions without any other choices.
Colt and Juliana banters was actually good, but they run out of lines pretty fast and the next whole walkthrough is gonna be silent trip.
According to Arkane it was their the most successful game. So take that information how you want.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>According to Arkane it was their the most successful game >Soulless, wider appeal slop is more popular than soulful and carefully crafted game
Many sad cases
The fr*ch are a pox on this world
Now that I think about, Delilah being Jessamine's sekrit sister kinda invalidates the plot of the Brigmore Witches DLC
If she can assume the throne even as an illegitimate daughter, why go through all those hoops to possess Emily? Just have her killed with Jessamine.
Because it was a lie and her Plan A failed, so she skipped to Plan B.
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Anonymous
>Because it was a lie
Sure, but the game treats it as true, and of that's the case then her plan on 1 doesn't make any sense
Also, I'll have to reiterate how creatively bankrupt the whole game is, because not only the plot is recycled but so is the way to kill her, beat by beat
Because they will be loyal to literally anyone that buys them? As in that if oh I don’t know some random fat frick noble buys a bunch he could use them to stage a coup.
I think it's true that she was living in the tower and was Jessamine's playmate, but everything else was a lie or her twisted view on things because she was jealous and thought that Jessamine didn't deserve it.
Vase incident was most likely true, because how obsessed and fixated she was about it.
But anyway, Delilah was Harvey's pet character which he couldn't let go.
Harvey is such a mid-level talent. Everytime he helms a sequel on it's own is a mediocre affair with little originality.
The frenchman really was holding Arkane together
>Why would Delilah say something like that?
She's saying he should go for it because Delilah has a daddy fetish and will be too dead to ever act on it.
Also she knew her sister was a prostitute, Daude didn't know, if he did he wouldn't have felt so bad about killing her, instead he died a mopey simp.
>you can find High Overseer as weeper if you chose non-lethal method >you also can find his journal in which he describes how miserable was his last weeks and curses Corvo in the end
During your first trip to the Hounds Pit Pub you can meet Lydia for the first time by appearing in front of her from a window climbing the outside of the building and she has a specific reaction to it
If you leave the High Overseer building through the door on the inside instead of the alleyway left of the building, you can see something watching you from a rooftop then Blinking away. As per word of god it's supposed to be a Whaler keeping tabs on you but they used a target practice mannequin as a placeholder during development and forgot to change it so even in the final game if you're quick and zoom in you can see an iron dummy teleporting away
You can confront Daud out in the open and still be able to kill no one: his Whalers will come out to defend him and he'll accept their help in High Chaos but call them back in Low Chaos to have an honorable duel with you, and if you do defeat him he then gives you the speech you see from his pov in the DLCs after which you can spare him and let him disappear
>in Low Chaos to have an honorable duel with you, and if you do defeat him he then gives you the speech you see from his pov in the DLCs after which you can spare him and let him disappear
It's the coolest way to defeat him
Yeah, the game definitely needed breaks from it's usual rules >Duel Daud doesn't count as breaking stealth if he's the first to detect you >Killing that guy in the duel either shouldn't count on the kills, or you should have a way to disarm him >Disappearing the bodies that you kill means you should have low chaos
>lololol >I'll just casually ruin a phenomenal piece of world building with a great sense of eerie wonder and mystery to make a commentary how le rich are le ebil!!!!1!!
Peak midwitism
Harvey "Boyle gets away with it because she's a woman also Delilah is a victim there's a transexual woman in Karnaca and Anita Sarkeesian is my best friend btw I did nothing wrong with Invisible War" Smith
>every woman in Dishonored is either a servant, a prostitute, a witch, a queen, or a little girl or a victim
.Oh noes! Women can't be bad people or victims! Never mind the fact that you kill scores of men in horrible ways, women are the primary victims of war! I stand with her!
Funniest thing is how little girls, maids, witches, queens and prostitutes are all so fricking different from one another. What else do you want? Judging by Dishonored 2, for women to be generic guards you can slaughter? Yay for beating the patriarchy I guess. It's bizarre to me how these people can't see characters beyond their surface level appearance. They'd probably dismiss Cecelia as 'a powerless servant' when she's so much more, a great character and one whose intelligence and ability to read the room and go unnoticed saved her life.
It's a brainrot, it makes you incapable of thinking
They're good and bad women characters from all ages and differing social classes, precisely like the men
Even in a society clearly based off 17th century London, you find someone capable in combat like Billie Lurk
But that's not enough, it's not equality they seek, women need to be presented as better, simple as
After visiting Ganker
Considering all games, Corvo is really shitty at his job, but he is good assassin.
Daud and Delilah were pretty exceptional cases. In the first game, it was especially notable because Corvo didn't even had the Outsider's mark.
And he still managed to kill 4 of Daud's assassins
They blinked away, but otherwise yeah, he did beat them
He was far away on a mission before the first game
The second game simply isn't canon
>be the empress
>have a dedicated personal bodyguard
>send him far away on a mission
She deserved to die
This
The guy is Lord protector, not Lord email.
I love how Corvo commented this in his journal in D2.
>I'm not diplomat so I failed...
I think Corvo failing to save Kalwin is more of an indictment against the Empress. Her reign was pretty short so people didn't really have a solid idea of her, so she may had ended up being a good ruler, but you would think the lady would police her inner circle better and that she'll use more resources available to her. I guess I can excuse the coup somewhat because it was pretty limited and only a few people seemed to be in on it, so it would be difficult to figure it out
but the Spymaster and Champell are obviously corrupt. If I was her, I would had at least removed the gross amohnt of power the Spymaster has. An in-game book stated the role can override the parliament and has a lot of leeway, so much so that the role is arguably only less powerful relative to the sovereign. Maybe I would have it that those powers are more of an emergecy that the crown or/and parliament may grant according the how bad the situation is. The role is so powerful to begin with because of how dire the Mortley Insurrection was apparently. It wouldn't be perfect but it'll serve as an obstacle to anyone with bad intentions. She's probably the most powerful person in the known world. She really can't just find some loyal subject to do the mission for her? Why send away a guy with no political experience whatsoever and whose entire role is to protect you? That's just asking for trouble, not to mention impractical and not really conductive.
The roughest equivalent is apparently that one emperor that started the empire in the first place. Since the empire is a consitutional monarchy and is more or less the British empire, it is safe to say that some things like an in-universe Manga Carta, The Golorious Revolution, and the Age of Enlightenment (Which may be occuring within the timeframe of the games.) happened, so you could say the people that will those events into action can be said to the Founding Fathers.
>Her reign was pretty short so people didn't really have a solid idea of her
But in books, papers and conversations everyone were pricing her as good ruler.
I may wrong on this because I'm mostly basing my opinion on one in-game book, where it stated such things. I can't really recall anything specific the Empress has done but that could be because the game just thinks it isn't really needed to bother with that. I am a little hesitant because the same in game book also stated some things the previous Kaldwin has done to earn admiration. I have the impression the Jessamine was a popular ruler, partly to do with how she's coming from the good rulership of her father, but hasn't done anything actually significant. Probably maintained the peace before the plague but I'm afraid no more than that.
Some characters states this
>The Empress was the only thing that was holding everything together
The characters are subject to their own biases and limited view points. It is also important to know these characters will state this in the middle of the worst parts of the Rat Plague. In such times, people may romanticize the past, partially as a way to act as a mental refuge. They may even have some credence to even think so. Even if Jassassmine hasn't done anything significant, her role as Empress would have a uniting factor. Her death was pretty disheartening and eroded a great deal of morale, which ties in with the chaos system now that I think about it.
If that ruler was able to hold everything together in such extreme time, it tells something
>The second game simply isn't canon
I really couldn't believe when they announced that the story for the second game would be just a repeat of the DLC for the first one
How creatively bankrupt you have to be?
Just be Harvey "The Cuck" Smith
>The second game simply isn't canon
This anon gets it
>Delilah goes from a jealous baker's daughter to Jessamine's sekrit half-sister
>Daud goes from accepting his role in his life to "AARGH IT'S ALL THE BLACK EYED BASTARD'S FAULT LET'S KILL HIM BILLIE"
>devs too afraid of players thinking for themselves critically so they're straight up just told Emily is Corvo's daughter and the Heart's voice is the Empress because imagine having to figure that out during D1
>Outsider turned from an ancient whale god to "muh sacrified street rat"
>neither Corvo nor Emily somehow react to Daud's audiograph showing he saved Emily's life 15 years prior
>Emily has the super high IQ idea of dissolving the Abbey after D2's events even after they gave their life being Dunwall's last line of defense while their Empress was chilling in Karnaca because shit writers can't into nuance, think all dark magic users are goody two-shoes like Corvo and not insane psychopaths like Granny Rags
Not to mention what a huge retcon of the 1st game choices 2 is
>Low Chaos: Emily ruled long and justly
SIKE homie
But out of all the retcons, the Outsider one was probably the worse. They completely killed his mystique and aura. And the new VA sucks
Not to mention that the Empire has fallen after DOTO events
It has? Why?
Audio file in Deathloop never mentioned reason, but judging how Tyvia was expanding its airbases near the border it could be other war
Because nu-Arkane hates Dishonored. Deathloop takes place in the Dishonored universe, in Tyvia centuries down the line and it confirms the Empire is no more. Emily destroyed all that came before, learned nothing from D2 and essentially made sure her mom's sacrifices were for naught.
Deathloop was suppose to be D3, but pitch was axed by Zenimax. So D3 story scraps still made it in Deathloop
What a shame.
I didn't play Deathloop because of cover Black folk, was it good? Did it make money?
It was ok, but really lacked variety and details. Loop "mystery" was just liner story which solved itself. To beat the game you have to do exact same actions without any other choices.
Colt and Juliana banters was actually good, but they run out of lines pretty fast and the next whole walkthrough is gonna be silent trip.
According to Arkane it was their the most successful game. So take that information how you want.
>According to Arkane it was their the most successful game
>Soulless, wider appeal slop is more popular than soulful and carefully crafted game
Many sad cases
The fr*ch are a pox on this world
Forgot pic
>Sections in the Void where Delilah shows you her totally real childhood story (tm) cannot be skipped
Now that I think about, Delilah being Jessamine's sekrit sister kinda invalidates the plot of the Brigmore Witches DLC
If she can assume the throne even as an illegitimate daughter, why go through all those hoops to possess Emily? Just have her killed with Jessamine.
Because it was a lie and her Plan A failed, so she skipped to Plan B.
>Because it was a lie
Sure, but the game treats it as true, and of that's the case then her plan on 1 doesn't make any sense
Also, I'll have to reiterate how creatively bankrupt the whole game is, because not only the plot is recycled but so is the way to kill her, beat by beat
>not taking bribes
>don't abuse their power
>won't betray you
>somehow they are le bad and needs to be wiped out from the face of the Empire
Because they will be loyal to literally anyone that buys them? As in that if oh I don’t know some random fat frick noble buys a bunch he could use them to stage a coup.
That's why goverment should monopolies them.
It did, the scenario I gave was the part of 2’s plot.
Not to the other isles dukes and kings, but only to the emperor/empress
You mean the person that controls/is the boss of all those people?
just like the founding fathers intended bucko
There are no founding Fathers in Dishonored and the guy I mentioned used the clockwork soldier to oppress the common people.
frick those clockwork soldiers
hated those frickers
Skill issue
Bend time and Domino are broken abilities
And that's a good thing
>Another Dishonored thread
The frick Bethesda shilling this game all of the sudden
>literally every video game thread on Ganker is LE PAID SHILL BOOGEYMAN
Take your meds, moron
stfu, I'm not playing your goyslop
>everything is GOOOYSLOOOOOPPPPPP
>everything is SHIIIIIIIILLS
>people don't discuss video games on Ganker, it's all MARKETERS
Pretty sure Delilah is moronic.
You could do a blood test and find out
I think it's true that she was living in the tower and was Jessamine's playmate, but everything else was a lie or her twisted view on things because she was jealous and thought that Jessamine didn't deserve it.
Vase incident was most likely true, because how obsessed and fixated she was about it.
But anyway, Delilah was Harvey's pet character which he couldn't let go.
Harvey is such a mid-level talent. Everytime he helms a sequel on it's own is a mediocre affair with little originality.
The frenchman really was holding Arkane together
this coat is so stupid and unpractical, daud had much better outfit. also his hand looks much cooler (the mark glows through the gloves)
Should we gather for whiskey and cigars tonight?
>Why would Delilah say something like that?
She's saying he should go for it because Delilah has a daddy fetish and will be too dead to ever act on it.
Also she knew her sister was a prostitute, Daude didn't know, if he did he wouldn't have felt so bad about killing her, instead he died a mopey simp.
Post your favorite details or interactions.
>let Martin see you in the final mission on high chaos
>he kills himself to spite you
>you can find High Overseer as weeper if you chose non-lethal method
>you also can find his journal in which he describes how miserable was his last weeks and curses Corvo in the end
During your first trip to the Hounds Pit Pub you can meet Lydia for the first time by appearing in front of her from a window climbing the outside of the building and she has a specific reaction to it
If you leave the High Overseer building through the door on the inside instead of the alleyway left of the building, you can see something watching you from a rooftop then Blinking away. As per word of god it's supposed to be a Whaler keeping tabs on you but they used a target practice mannequin as a placeholder during development and forgot to change it so even in the final game if you're quick and zoom in you can see an iron dummy teleporting away
You can confront Daud out in the open and still be able to kill no one: his Whalers will come out to defend him and he'll accept their help in High Chaos but call them back in Low Chaos to have an honorable duel with you, and if you do defeat him he then gives you the speech you see from his pov in the DLCs after which you can spare him and let him disappear
Also killed deffending Whalers count as civilians
>in Low Chaos to have an honorable duel with you, and if you do defeat him he then gives you the speech you see from his pov in the DLCs after which you can spare him and let him disappear
It's the coolest way to defeat him
Shame it counts as being spotted
Yeah, the game definitely needed breaks from it's usual rules
>Duel Daud doesn't count as breaking stealth if he's the first to detect you
>Killing that guy in the duel either shouldn't count on the kills, or you should have a way to disarm him
>Disappearing the bodies that you kill means you should have low chaos
Recently bought the 2nd game and it just isn't grabbing me. I liked the first one. What happened
Gameplay, artstyle and design are god tier, but story and character development are pure trash. Just skip cutscenes and dialogs
He was the only one screwing the empress he was with her 24/7
Powerful
>lololol
>I'll just casually ruin a phenomenal piece of world building with a great sense of eerie wonder and mystery to make a commentary how le rich are le ebil!!!!1!!
Peak midwitism
Harvey "Boyle gets away with it because she's a woman also Delilah is a victim there's a transexual woman in Karnaca and Anita Sarkeesian is my best friend btw I did nothing wrong with Invisible War" Smith
>every woman in Dishonored is either a servant, a prostitute, a witch, a queen, or a little girl or a victim
.Oh noes! Women can't be bad people or victims! Never mind the fact that you kill scores of men in horrible ways, women are the primary victims of war! I stand with her!
Leftists have ruined all historical or historical-inspired settings with this crap demanding that at least half the cast is a strong girl boss.
Funniest thing is how little girls, maids, witches, queens and prostitutes are all so fricking different from one another. What else do you want? Judging by Dishonored 2, for women to be generic guards you can slaughter? Yay for beating the patriarchy I guess. It's bizarre to me how these people can't see characters beyond their surface level appearance. They'd probably dismiss Cecelia as 'a powerless servant' when she's so much more, a great character and one whose intelligence and ability to read the room and go unnoticed saved her life.
It's a brainrot, it makes you incapable of thinking
They're good and bad women characters from all ages and differing social classes, precisely like the men
Even in a society clearly based off 17th century London, you find someone capable in combat like Billie Lurk
But that's not enough, it's not equality they seek, women need to be presented as better, simple as
Some people never change.
>subversive 0.1% vampired
Oh man, was the game based all along
Shall we gather for whisky and cigars tonight?
Never doubt it
Blow off, choffer.