Disney is buying Hasbro. Everything you have seen from wotc has been mismanaged attempts to pump up stock value to make it worth more to the house of mouse.
Obviously thats all been a disaster and Hasbro has accepted a lower bid. The company will be changing hands in 2024, the sale will be announced in the coming weeks.
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Okay.
Still gonna play my own shitty frankesteined homebrew system with my IRL friends tho.
>Still gonna play my own shitty frankesteined homebrew system
Horribly imbalanced, barely tested and absolutely wonderful fun?
Utterly, unfathomable, undeniably based. Godspeed, homebrewchad.
I can't wait for all the Disney secret lair cross overs
Magic will almost certainly be "the kingdom hearts of card games" with more of those IP sets.
they want magic and d&d to be systems for any number of other spinoff card games and ttrpgs using their IPs
Disney made more money licensing to Hasbro than they ever could running it. Why would they buy it?
lol
For absorbing Hasbro IPs
What IPs?
There's nothing of value in Hasbro.
Transformers, dnd, and mtg are pretty valuable
All of these IPs are, combined, worth about a tenth of Disney's own IPs.
Doesn't matter. Gives them more shit to gain "profits" off of. That's all Disney does: Acquisitions so THEY control shit and can copy-write it for 100+ years.
>copy-write
copyright
Uh huh. Pull the other one, kid.
so you're saying they're worth a lot?
Haha wow only a 10% boost in revenue oh jees how terrible
...you don't know how value and revenues differ, do you? Let's just say we're talking about Hasbro because theirs are wildly divergent.
>loses it
That's great, tripgay, but why are you lying?
Hasbro 2.0 was intended to be a major refactoring of the business to minimize the corporation's exposure to declining toy production revenues by focusing on high volume, high value brands like Magic and D&D. The way it was done was in the single most high risk manner conceivable: cancel most of the video games currently in production to make way for YE GRANDE VTT/MMO EXPERIENCE from Chris Cao. Incredibly stupid plan from the outset, extremely high risk (trade products you were making licensing money off of for a product you...aren't making money on), but without showing some sort of moves to drive future revenues, the value of Hasbro's brands would deteriorate as analysts and creditors downgraded them again. The whole OGL revision was, form their perspective, the least risky part of the plan. If they'd managed to actually get it in place before the D&D players caught wind of it, they probably would have been correct.
What continues to escape me is why you're lying about being in the industry, or knowing a single fricking thing about how stonks work.
Mate you're the one losing it
>untrips to "no, u"
I mean, I didn't say stop tripping...but damned if you didn't.
I genuinely don't get what ideological bone there is to pick. We all hate Hasbro.
> I genuinely don't get what ideological bone there is to pick. We all hate Hasbro.
Ye. What I hate most about them is that they say the sky is blue while it's fricking pouring and I have to pretend with a straight face to my boss that there's indeed a blue sky out.
>I have to lie to le boss, this is very new and original
It's just fricking disgusting. I love my job but the toy sector is a fricking mess. The whole industry sometimes feels like a game of fricking pretend, Pretend outdated methods are still worthwhile and pretend those big companies are worth their fricking ivory towers. And then you have those silly ''independent'' analysts who suck big corpo wiener. And then when normal people lose their jobs they pretend to feel sorry for them but aren't willing to call out the elephant in the room. Hasbro firing normal people? ''Oh I feel sorry for them'' they all shout on their LinkedIn. Anyone willing to say ''Hey how about those fat pigs up top take a paycut?'' Course not.
>What continues to escape me is why you're lying about being in the industry
He's got an ideological bone to pick. That or he's in the industry but just stupid, there are plenty of people who are bad at their jobs.
> t. toy industry gay
In the toy sector you're not allowed to say that the emperor has no clothes. So if a company is fricking shit up, you're supposed to see nothing, hear nothing and say nothing, otherwise your career will be hurt for it in a silent ''cancel culture''; just praise the big corps or else. This caused those big corps to become fricking circlejerks and their shareholders to believe all the BS since all the ''analysts'' are nothing more than cheerleaders. See this BS for example: https://globaltoynews.com/2023/01/18/hasbro-has-angered-its-d-does-it-matter/
Toys R Us dying? Ye that shit was obvious for anyone with two brain cells. ''Oh no a hedgefund just puts it out of its mystery, how could this be?'' All the other toy retailers? Same thing. Hasbro? Same. See, all these fricktards in their ivory towers made their successes in the '80s and that means whatever formula for success they made 40 years ago is still perfect today. Wait, it doesn't work anymore? Well too bad, if you speak up your career is over bucko.
You can say ''but there's nothing of value in Hasbro amiright?'' like , but that ain't true; just a whole lot of good IP's that have been mismanaged for decades.
> Letting GI Joe peeter out
> Transformers being boring and just milked out
> Failing to capitalize on the success of MLP G4
> Ending the LPS show prematurely and then making a new iteration immediately that sucked ass
> Letting Peppa Pig be superceded by Bluey
> making shitty video games nobody wants
> trying to frick the DnD community over for max profits
> Sucking profits from MTG away to keep the other brands afloat
> thinking their formula ''Brand Blueprint'', also called ''Bland Bullshit'' makes their story IP's work even though it never has.
Are there people who have shown alternatives? Yes and they're all cancelled under the guise of ''whatever you want means risk so let's not try something we're not familiar with''. It's fricking infuriating.
Hey toy industry gay, let's hypothetically say that I'm a successful author. How does one break into making toys based on my IP?
> t. toy industry gay (why doesn't this silly board just use ID's like /misc/? Makes shit a lot easier)
Answer; either do it yourself or don't bother. No one wants to invest in something that is based on new material. The only new material over the past decade in the whole industry is Bluey - yes, just one single IP. And that shit was partially financed by the Australian government and the BBC.
If you're new on the block you can try third party helpers like Mary Couzin or Mojo Nation, but those are usually useless, and the Toy Association just sucks the wieners of the big corpo's. Then there's the issue of manufacturing and distribution. Go to India or Mexico for manufacturing since China is getting too expensive and is unreliable. Distribution; start with small stores first now that TrU is dead, then once you get success the larger chains will show interest.
I think /misc/ has IDs because there’s a lot shitposting and people would samegay hard to derail threads, we don’t really have that problem to the same degree
Bullshit. Paw Patrol proves you're nothing but a schizo poster who hasn't got a clue what they're on about.
the Paw Patrol show started in 2013 - exactly 10 years ago -, but its first toys were released in small releases as early as 2011 IIRC, which makes it older than a decade. And even if I were to swallow this correction, just 2 new brands in a decade doesn't sound great either.
No board wants to be more like /misc/.
The name field exists for this sort of thing.
>the BBC
Obsessed
I work in sales anon, it is my job to know.
That was an excellent and specific answer. Much appreciated.
>Go to India or Mexico for manufacturing since China is getting too expensive and is unreliable.
I thought it was all moving to Vietnam; that's where Hasbro's been doing business for like a decade now.
>why doesn't this silly board just use ID's like /misc/?
IDs are a punishment for shit boards.
If you need a name to can be semi-authenticated, use a tripcode. That's literally what it's there for.
> t. toy industry gay
(me)
(cont.)
The only way to save Hasbro is to shove half the boardmembers out the door and replace them with people who think realistically and have the best for all IP's in mind. Not gonna happen, of course. That and replace the Bland Bullshit model as well as making a big apology to the DnD community and making a legally binding agreement never to do that shit with OGL again. Also not going to happen of course - Hasbro is fricked
> people my age are eating almost every marvel slop of shit movie
Not true. Revenues have been going down by a nice percentage. This is all the fault of Putin and Corona and Economic downturn of course, not theirs.
> Hasbro to be bought up by Disney
Would someone do that? Just go on /tg/ and tell lies? Disney has had a really bad year and I doubt they even have the funds ready to buy Hasbro up. Besides I don't even think they want to. And even if they did, OP over here hasn't provided us with any evidence so I call BS.
you forgot one...
>royally fricking up jem's revival so badly that it made the whole brand poison.
...i'll never forgive hasbro for this. the 2010s was literally the perfect time for a jem revival/reboot with the neo 80s trend and they colossally fricked it up with a terrible movie with a laughably low budget and a hotshotted comic written by an inexperienced author who wrote themselves into a corner when they forced their OTP into the comics.
i'd also blame hasbro for fricking up the ROM revival but that was more IDWs fault for forcing all the hasbro properties into a shared universe.
> Letting Peppa Pig be superceded by Bluey
You mean letting Peppa Pig be superceded by Paw Patrol, that's the real kids show printing money right now.
Ironically I think Bluey is eating up the market MLP G5 wanted, which is adults on twitter all talking about it being good.
>Ironically I think Bluey is eating up the market MLP G5 wanted, which is adults on twitter all talking about it being good.
There are so many layers delicious irony in this fact.
Has Bluey really beaten the sow?
>making shitty video games nobody wants
Fall of Cybertron was amazing.
>MtG
>DND
>Transformers
>MLP
>GI Joe
>Power Rangers
>MtG
Although seemingly profitable compared to the rest of the market, its not really big or known enough to be super attractive to Disney. Its a niche hobby
>DND
See above
>Transformers
Probably some legal shit with whoever owns the rights to the movies already. So they probably wouldn't gain the rights to make Transformers movies just by buying Hasbro
>MLP
Attractive, but this is Disney, its not a big enough to matter, especially considering they're already a big player in children's entertainment and toys
>GI Joe
See above
>Power Rangers
See above
Basically Hasbro's IPs already exist in Disney in some form, or are too niche for them to care about. If they choose to buy Hasbro it would be like snapping up a snack to round out their monopoly in the children's market more than anything. The stuff WE care about wouldn't even register to Disney as being a profitable venture and they'd just let whoever was in charge of it continue to do as they want.
> TF, GI Joe, PR, MLP
All brands that are underutilized and abused. Would've been worth billions more if they had been handled properly:
> Give Michael Bay a better scriptwriter
> Actually exploit MLP G4's success rather than throwing the golden eggs from the goose into the dirt and just slaughtering the goose
> Abandon GI Joe altogether
>Although seemingly profitable compared to the rest of the market, its not really big or known enough to be super attractive to Disney. Its a niche hobby
Why is Disney coming out with their own collectible card game, then?
If Disney’s gonna buy Hasbro then why did they try to make their own DnD in the first place?
Disney is not going to buy hasbro. The whole thread is bullshit spammed by some hedge fund who want Hasbro to spam MTG card sets and sell of WOTC to make a quick buck so they make a quick profit. Their job is to make sure there is one thread about hasbro up 24/7 here and on ten other boards. There is an anon who posted it in an earlier thread. They pay the agency that shilled monster energy drinks here apparently
>a former pro player potentially running WOTC
we kaiba corp now
>Jon Finkel
>The 'Michael Jordan' of Magic: The Gathering
on the one hand it's nice to see Jon get recognition, on the other hand it's sad that this is the only way they know how to explain his importance to clueless investors
except we don't need Jon Finkel or Kai Budde, we need Mike frickin' Long.
Imagine thinking that playing a card game qualifies you to be a director on the board of a major public corporation because an asset stripping hedge fund that wand to make a one time large profit by selling off WOTC so it can make money decided to shill you as a sock puppet vote. Are you trying to confirm that alta fox is spamming this board?
Anon I don't think you understand. There's nothing that the Mouse is not attracted to. It wants to hoard the whole world.
>It wants to hoard the whole world.
or bomb it. Considering some of the biggest investors in disney are also heavily into raytheon and other arms manufacturers.
>MLP
Is worth jackshit nowadays.
G4 was lightning on a bottle but they completely refused to capitalize on it because it was an abandoned thing and thus no higher exec could claim it has his accomplishment.
G5 is a massive flop despite them having invested more on its first season than they spent on the entirety of G4.
Disney already had Power Rangers before and sold it.
Wise move it was always pretty shitty
>hasbro is buying warhammer!
>disney is buying warhammer!
>disney is buying hasbro!
Enough with these shit threads
They've been saying shit like this for decades, see.
Would love if this was true. I want the worst of the 5e crowd to stay in their containment game. All my friends who play have already jumped ship. A rising tide lifts all boats, true, but I can already sail any boat I want and I don't want to sail them through a flood of sewage.
Is Disney in a place to acquire Hasbro right this minute?
>Their consumers are tired of superheroes.
>They're still throwing things at the wall with the Star Wars IP to see what sticks.
>Their IP on Mickey Mouse is about to go through some uncertainty, but finalized answers won't be known for sure until as early as 2024
Anon Disney’s biggest source of revenue is ESPN. Not any of their IPs.
>Anon Disney’s biggest source of revenue is ESPN. Not any of their IPs.
What the hell are you talking about?
Disney sees total revenue of about 50+ billion from their entertainment divisions. ESPN makes 4 billion in revenue annually.
How the frick are these Ganker threads a thing here.
It's like a console war thread, people are arguing over the financial numbers not for financial reasons but because it's like a score in a football game
What /tg/ do disney make?
Disney owns marvel and star wars and most importantly serves as a big boogeyman that will buy your favorite company and turn it gay
>How the frick are these Ganker threads a thing here.
Stock market speculation is horoscopes for libertarians.
>If Disney’s gonna buy Hasbro then why did they try to make their own DnD in the first place?
They did. Quests of Yore bombed.
He correctly articulated basic business concepts based on real world financial data, that's as far from Ganker as you get.
>tired of superheroes
In your online bubble, meanwhile in the real world they're still half of the top 10
>Moon Man
Chinese film that's more or less Armageddon in the Bad End route.
So basically that music video? Cool.
>15 movies come out
>7 of them are supers movies
>THEY'RE IN THE TOP TEN MOVIES THIS YEAR THEY'RE STILL POPULAR!
Yeah naw. The last 3 years have been awful for movies coming out in general. The fact that half of what is coming out are superhero movies isn't a credit to them but more a case of people just going to see movies period. Yes there is a certain subset of braindead Marvel fans that see every single superhero movie, and that will always bolster sales somewhat, but we're at the point where pretty much everyone on the street will say they're tired of superheroes on some level. Some will still see one or two, but we're well past the point of the average person seeing every Marvel slop of shit movie coming out now.
I don’t know how old you are, but I can tell you as a 23 year old that you’re completely fricking wrong, most people my age still eat that shit up.
I suppose you could be right that I'm out of touch. 30 years old is maybe not the target demographic for new movies anymore.
>we're at the point where pretty much everyone on the street will say they're tired of superheroes on some level.
I'm not tired of the idea of seeing another sh movie; I'm tired of the idea of watching them shovel shit and paying for it. I saw Sam Raimi directing one to see Sam Raimi doing his thing. Some of that was there, but there was a lot of shit to sit through in the same bundle.
John Wayne got boring. So has capeshit.
>I saw Sam Raimi directing one to see Sam Raimi doing his thing.
You just can't have an entire movie about Spider-Man committing hate crimes against minorities anymore, anon. It was a different time.
>Top Gun dabbing on everything
>only beaten by inflated Avatar
of superheroes
>In your online bubble, meanwhile in the real world they're still half of the top 10
Depressing. At least the new D&D movie looks fun.
>At least the new D&D movie looks fun.
It looks like a marvel movie, though. It's gonna be guardians of the galaxy but fantasy instead of space fantasy.
>guardians of the galaxy but fantasy instead of space fantasy.
I will be surprised and delighted if it is actually that good.
IP on Mickey Mouse is about to go through some uncertainty
Lol, that would require US Congress not being the easiest political prostitute on the planet.
Congress already denied them last time they wanted an extension.
>Lol, that would require US Congress not being the easiest political prostitute on the planet.
there's two problems, 1) these things take time and Disney literally doesn't have enough time to get another copyright extension pushed through before Mickey goes Public Domain, and 2) a sizable chunk of the Republican party are pissed off at Disney so probably wouldn't support another extension(they've even discussed actually reversing some of the previous copyright extensions specifically to spite Disney)
Rumor has it they've lost a lot of money from the FTX collapse
Post your source.
i want to believe
Sorry but if anything, I trust Disney even less.
Tiamat will become a Disney princess?
> Celestia, Luna, Cadence and Twilight will become Disney Princesses
kek hadn't thought of that. That's hilarious
Honestly, I think Disney would probably go with Dragonlance. It's got Laurana, Tika, Kitiara for the hard femdom gays, Malys for the crazy dragonfrickers. Heart for the non-crazy ones.
It'll probably be a long while before they even look at MIna which kinda sucks, skinhead Jeanne D'Arc and her merry band of Black Company-ish simps would be amazing.
>Disney is buying Hasbro
Sauce or are you speculating? I didn't find anything about this via google.
MLP is so shit nowadays that literally anyone else handling it would be an improvement. I hope this is real.
Hey remember to hate D&D and hasbro and like me Conor and my hedge fund alta fox because we have 2% of hasbro stock and would really like them to sell off WOTC so we can get a one off dividend payment and rake in a huge profit! It will absoltely frick wothc and hasbro and D&D but I don't care because I'm conor from alta fox and I asset strip companies and don't give a frick about you stupid roleplaying shit! Just give me my money you moronic nerds! Agencies have been spamming here to get some hate going for the board of hasbro who have been blocking my board takeover , the same people who ran the monster energy campaign. You do as your told. You've been told to hate D&D and hasbro and wotc and I've paid for your brains. I fricking own you.
>Implying i need this particular reason to hate Hasbro
Black person, we shitted on d&d since this fricking board existed.
>Black person, we shitted on d&d since this fricking board existed.
Yes, and? I think you're the one confused about how the things work here. We shit on d&d WHILE having discussion about, that's how things work with nerds. I don't give a crap about hasbro being shorted because we don't play d&d (or any other ttrpg) based on the publisher, hasbro could fail tomorrow and that won't change shit for us, the games are still there. If anything less greedy corporate israelites in the hobby = better environment for us hobbyists.
Now get the frick out shill.
>been told to hate Hasbro and Wotc
Black person I came to that conclusion by just watching them rape mtg. Nobody told me shit.
>Agencies have been spamming here to get some hate going for the board of hasbro who have been blocking my board takeover , the same people who ran the monster energy campaign. You do as your told. You've been told to hate D&D and hasbro and wotc and I've paid for your brains. I fricking own you.
Christ, this has to be the MOST pathetic attempt in history to gaslight a narrative.
>Christ, this has to be the MOST pathetic attempt in history to gaslight a narrative.
Fick off Black person, you're not even worth another (you).
Hello Conors flying monkey
, this has to be the MOST pathetic attempt in history to gaslight a narrative.
https://www.reuters.com/business/exclusive-hasbro-set-defeat-alta-fox-board-challenge-sources-2022-06-07/
https://www.reuters.com/business/exclusive-hasbro-snubs-alta-fox-board-nominee-offer-settlement-talks-sources-2022-03-27/
March 27 (Reuters) - Hasbro Inc (HAS.O) has turned down a settlement offer from Alta Fox Capital Management LLC to have only one of its nominees added to the U.S. toy maker's board of directors, making a shareholder vote over the dispute likely, people familiar with the matter said on Sunday.
The two sides have been discussing how to avert a proxy contest after Alta Fox, a hedge fund that holds a 2.5% stake in Hasbro, nominated five directors to the company's eleven-member board last month.
Alta Fox has privately indicated to Hasbro, the maker of Dungeons & Dragons and Play-Doh, that it would settle for two new directors, as long as one of them is one of the five Alta Fox nominees, and a board committee focused on capital allocation, the sources said.
Hasbro, however, has rejected giving any of the Alta Fox nominees a board seat, the sources added. The Pawtucket, Rhode Island-based company has indicated to Alta Fox that it believes it can replenish its board with directors of a higher caliber and more relevant experience than the Alta Fox nominees, the sources added.
What part of "we don't care" did you not understand. We didn't start shitting on hasbro all of a sudden, we shitted on d&d and mtg choices for YEARS before this ogl shitshow, the fact some israelite is trying to short hadbro RIGHT NOW doesn't change the pre-existing narrative.
Again frick. off.
Pur gasoline on yourself and light a cigarette Black.
We don't fricking care what (you) think you hedge fund homosexual
>1¢ has been hadded you your account
We hate hasbro, we hate altofox, we hate corpopigs. Get the frick out from the hobby.
We? You're a fricking moron that speak for nobody. You want to start echo chamber threads about hasbro financials every fricking 8 hours? 'We'. Frick off and die you hedge fund c**t.
1. You don't have the exclusive into using the word "we"
2. I didn't start this thread
3. What part of "not our problem" you don't get? Why should we care that a israelite corpo is getting shorted by another israelite corpo? Explai, i'll wait.
We think you are a fricking dickhead. Lrk more you fricking agency shill. Stop spamming hasbro finance threads or take it to Ganker where it belongs. Don't b***h when it misfires.
>No explanation
As expected. You're a Black person
This thread belongs on Ganker. You spam this shit constantly. Go away.
Come on, complete the following phrase:
"I need to care that altofox is shorting hasbro because ______________"
Too late. Anons know what you are doing. Frick off to Ganker
As expected, you can't complete that sentence because there's simply no reason for anyone here to care about. You're a gaslighting Black person and should have a nice day.
Keep spamming your shit flinging shill hedgefunds spam hasbro finance threads dude. Its le based. Its even funnier if you do it for free. That agency that did the monster energy campaign here really knows how to get inside the heads of restarts like you. One poster can start spamming screencaps of letters from Alta Fox and not a word. people start criticising Alta Fox and its owner and you throw a complete fit. Humm.
>Keep spamming your shit flinging shill hedgefunds spam hasbro finance threads dude.
Again i didn't start this thread
>Its le based.
Spotted the tourist
>Its even funnier if you do it for free.
Like the gaslight work your doing right now? Shit Black person as a raise.
>That agency that did the monster energy blablabla
What it has to do with hasbro? Again like i said there was a PRE-EXISTING antipathy them here for frickin YEARS before this shitshow.
>One poster can start spamming screencaps of letters from Alta Fox and not a word. people start criticising Alta Fox and its owner and you throw a complete fit. Humm.
/tg/ isn't one person moron. Anyway let me be clear: i hope alta fox executives die of bleeding rectum cancer AND i hope hasbro get nuked from space. Is it clear were i stand now?
>Spotted the tourist
You are projecting a lot. Are you here from Ganker?
I'm still waiting for you to complete that sentence.
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>Why should we care
>we
you tell em, reddit!
>The alta fox spammer crawls back
Yup, check this out,
alta fox spam
alta for spam
Meanwhile
>Keep this thread on topic after all Alta Fox paid OP to post it
>Blackrock behind cocomelon
homie, this tin foil won't make it anymore. I need a depleted uranium hat
The entire mainstream entertainment industry is propaganda to manufacture consent. Why do you think a "gaming" company gives a shit about geopolitics? It is because it is the same guys selling weapons to state powers and war to you.
Can’t Hasbro fix its stock issues by simply decreasing prices for a lot of its products to drive up the amount the consumers?
Hell, why did they fall near 40%? Is it just cus WotC had such a good time during lockdown that after it ended it was bound to fall again?
No: shitty toys don't easily get sold even on discount. when Toys R Us died they tried this and it still didn't work.
Yes: WoTC was bound to go down slightly, but that doesn't diminish the brand in any way
It’s not the quality of toys that’s keeping Hasbro from selling more, it’s the heavy price increases, most having gone up by 20% in the last year alone. The quality between 2018 Hasbro and 2023 Hasbro hasn’t changed. There have been frickups due to everything that happened in the last 3 years but far and away quality is still the same. All they simply need to do is reduce prices or add more quality for the price, both of which would entice consumers a lot more.
And that’s not just it; you have marvel and Star Wars action figure lines on the popularity decline as the respective franchises popularity declines aswell, no one gives a shit about GI Joe and wizards of the coast is going through a frickload at the moment. The only things they can rely on are nerf because kids like shooting things, my little pony because it somehow makes buckets of cash, transformers because they got a movie coming up and they sell out faster than most action figure lines and dnd if they can manage to get it back on track.
> my little pony because it somehow makes buckets of cash
Horsegays don't buy Hasbro merch and MLP ain't all that popular with little girls either. Sauce?
> transformers because they got a movie coming up and they sell out faster than most action figure lines and dnd if they can manage to get it back on track.
Bayformers was a box office hit but did little for merch AFAIK. Sauce?
I don’t have sauce for the first one but the second one I went off of that idea because if you go Hasbro pulse, transformers is the brand section that usually has the most recently released sold out items
Oh boy the disinfo spammers are trying to get a foothold after driving the last thread into the ground schizoing about /misc/
>Disney is buying Hasbro.
Source?
Honestly, I'm just surprised that some angry little jannie hasn't nuked this entire topic because a few anons mentioned MLP, even though it's completely in line with the discussion at hand and not about the show details itself. I suppose there's still time though. Never know when Barney anon might show up.
wait this seems funny post the full version
How is Top Gun so popular and yet Paramount seems incapable of releasing a Star trek film
They’re waiting for the cooldown over Beyond to be well and truly done so they can reboot the franchise again with a new Kirk.
Bruh that’s moronic. Unless Disney buys paramount aswell they don’t get anything from the transformers movies which are 2nd biggest thing you’d be trying to get if you bought Hasbro.
Plus why would they buy up Hasbro? What do they actually get out of that? They already had and sold off power rangers when they lost interest in it, and Hasbro makes practically all the figures for Disney’s action based toy lines like Marvel, Star Wars and Indiana Jones. The only things they really gain IP wise are My Little Pony which might not do much for them, GI Joe which is basically useless, DND which after the recent fiasco won’t ever be as big as it was and Transformers which is probably the biggest thing to acquire.
Plus if you buy Hasbro then you have all the weird shit to work out with takara Tomy and paramount and stuff so there’s that issue
It’d make more sense for Disney to buy up something like Mattel or the DnD clones like pathfinder to compete directly with Dnd.
This decision makes practically no sense imo. Just keep going as is and they both win.
Magic is literally the only thing of any meaningful value Hasbro has and why would Disney want it when they're trying to sell their own card game? Just to deliberately kill it?
WotC tried to do that with Legend of the Five Rings.
Look, just like I said, the Hasbara defender is back to schizo spam the thread to death like last time
I don't work for Alta Fix we just get a brief sheet via the company.
So the scummiest movie company buys the scummiest gaming company.
Keep this thread on topic after all Alta Fox paid OP to post it
>MTG and D&D worlds in Kingdom Hearts 5
Fund it
On one hand I hate the idea of Disney being more powerful
On the other I absolutely fricking hate Hasbro and I want it to burn
Hmm...
Call them gypsies and get rid of all of them, no more gypsy hate.
Games workshop is next.
No esg company can escape this fate.
>I don't understand what ESG is
lmao
Anon, ESG is just corporate social credit. All corporations have it.
>disney buying dnd
NO DON'T BORG DND INTO DISNEY IT WILL BE STUCK THERE
Disney is going to borg your dork.
it's time to move on from DnD, call of Cthulhu is waiting
Yep, everyone should move to playing CoC.
i already have that game
problem is i would hope that mystara & other older settings/modules could someday get into a Creative commons or even public domain situation. i would love BECMI to become CC
Not impossible, but you may be overthinking this OP. Modern corporate business practice requires demonstrable increase in growth quarter-over-quarter, or a CEO risks his/her job. It's incredibly short sighted, but the nature of how a public company is shackled to its shareholders creates this scenario. It's not the first time a company has flown too close to the sun in pursuit of short term profit. It won't be the last, either.
Could just be some executives' poorly-gauged bid for extra cash.
>Modern corporate business practice requires demonstrable increase in growth quarter-over-quarter, or a CEO risks his/her job.
That's not entirely true. Modern corporate business practice is so completely and utterly fricked that some CEOs will intentionally tank a company on purpose so they and their Wall Street overlords can make money short selling it, or let another company (that promises them big bonuses and a higher salary) buy it cheap, or even just bounce from company to company signing on with huge severance packages, drive it to near ruin, get "removed," collect on their massive severance, and then move on to another company. The investors who bought up stocks while they were driven low can now enjoy the rising prices thanks to the "removal" of the "bad" CEO, so of course this doesn't bother them in the slightest.
It only counts as insider trading if you get caught, of course.
Capitalism, ho!
>capitalism is...LE BAD!!
Kys commie and livestream it
It seems like they have a pretty accurate understanding of how corporate America works, which is why it's kind of funny that they ended it with "capitalism, ho!" since proposals from people opposed to capitalism would be similarly bad, except without even having the benefit of consumer recourse when the now-socialized company ass fricks you somehow.
Why are they like this?
>if you criticize capitalism you must be a communist because there are only two economic models at all ever
I hate currentyear internet discourse.
That's just true and factual. You either tolerate capitalism and free trade, or you oppose it. It is a binary. It has nothing to do with the modern day. Anything claiming to be "in between" is just against it. If you don't understand that you don't understand what you're talking about.
Capitalism isn't synonymous with free trade or markets you absolute baboon.
>You either tolerate capitalism and free trade, or you oppose it. It is a binary.
Incorrect.
You can tolerate capitalism and hate free trade. You can also love free trade and hate capitalism. Free markets have existed for millennia. Capitalism has only existed for four centuries.
Any idiot who takes basic-ass history classes would know this.
>Capitalism has only existed for four centuries.
lmao
The "capitalism" which these morons are talking about, the "capitalism" that takes credit for all the benefits of market economies, the "capitalism" that exists as part of a binary with communism-and-destitution-and-violence as the other part, that kind of "capitalism" has existed for 60 years tops. Pre-cold-war capitalism was completely different (but still just another 20th-century "-ism").
>You either tolerate capitalism and free trade, or you oppose it. It is a binary. It has nothing to do with the modern day. Anything claiming to be "in between" is just against it.
Look at this fricking tool, he means it too. Humans are hopeless.
>Pre-cold-war capitalism was completely different (but still just another 20th-century "-ism").
Eh, the best form of capitalism in the US came about in the 50s during the Cold War. The problem is that corporate and government propaganda has so heavily brainwashed the American populace into accepting Reaganomics that most Americans can't even fathom a time when our political leaders would initiate a program called "Social Security" but still be capitalists.
We live in a place where the standard of living is higher than anywhere else, but our constitutional rights have all but been eroded while wealth disparity grows and we can't have a big boy discussion about all that cuz WE NUMBA WUN!!!
>being rich enough to be loyal to money over nations or traditions is good actually!
>le like a fricking redditor
kys chud b***h and no one will ever find out
Apple will buy hasbro. Dont ask me to explain the math but they are one of several companies that may be actively shopping for companies that they can purchase without anti trust issues.
Fricking mods remove the thread talking about the board but leave this shit up
Your b***hfit tantrum over an anon being mean to you isn't relevant to anyone but you and your hurt feelings.
The tabletop games business is actually relevant to the tabletop games board.
Rampant unbased speculation on one company is not important to the board.
>Rampant unbased speculation on one company is not important to the board.
More important than this anon's b***hfit
Also, isn’t Disney in near financial ruin at the moment? Aren’t there rumours about Disney having poorly managed money or something and if it turned out to be true it could lead to Disney just collapsing?
Yes. https://globaltoynews.com/2023/01/22/tti-composite-toy-stock-index/
Fall of Cybertron is more than 10 years old anon. Recent games have been... underwhelming
> MLP Maretime Bay Adventures
> An adult can complete the game in 12 minutes, a child in 45 minutes and have done EVERYTHING. And even then people said it felt long-winded and stretched out.
>No source
Doubt
I figured that out when Eldraine dropped, they couldn't have been more transparent about it.
>Disney is buying Hasbro
You guys are all missing the big picture. I suggest you start looking at shareholders and not brand names. Vanguard, Blackrock ect.
Blackrock's model doesn't give them much authority on influencing actual company performance. They're primarily a custodial service.
>I can't see any underlying financial reasons for it,
75% of gen z adults identify as some flavor of gay. There is massive demographic pressure and pressure from their own employees to make their movies gay.
Disney and the others sell their crap *everywhere*. Not just the USA, Canada, Europe, Australia and Japan. Disney products can be found in every nation on Earth, from every backwater African dictatorship to Argentina to Kazakhstan. This is why we now call them ''emerging markets''; still underdeveloped shitholes but we can now peddle our merch to them. China too is such a market but the CCP really needs you to kowtow to them to be allow to sell your products on their market. (Making merch that they won't use is a different story though). If Disney raises a gay flag, they offend their markets in South America, Africa, China (including the CCP), the old Soviet Union, the former Eastern Block and so on. And even if your 75% metric is correct - which I doubt it is - that is still 25% who will be offended by it. Plus of course boomer grandparents. "Get woke go broke" is very accurate. But it would be the same if they did something else, like peddle Trumpism or Communism or whatever you can come up with.
>"Get woke go broke" is very accurate
It's wishful thinking from boomers who have completely lost control of culture
>global market
You don't get how much richer America is. 75% of their money still comes from America. They edit the gay scenes out for China and nobody else has enough money to matter.
> It's wishful thinking from boomers who have completely lost control of culture
I don't care about /misc/-ish thinking or culture wars. Only facts. And what I know is that while some of Disney's merch has been booming, a lot went down to shit because of woke-ism just last year; Lightyear barely broke even at the box office (and that's still a loss, because third parties like cinemas take part of the revenue). Besides, your picrel also shows the targets weren't met (the increase in revenue compared to 2021 was partially because of corona) and that a lot of it was based on older media, as in stuff pre-dating 2017.
>Disney and the others sell their crap *everywhere*
cartoons and animatronics one day, Monsanto seeds and drones the next. it all the same people.
>"Get woke go broke" is very accurate
Okay so you don't work in the industry.
Literally anyone who does understands the whole "get woke go broke" narrative is hot nonsense. Because you aren't selling your product to Ugandans with a gay couple kissing ad. You also sell tiny fractions of product to Africa compared to the US and European markets. You can't sell toys to China at all, because they just steal yours.
If you did work in the toy industry, you would know that the entire industry has lost almost 40% gross revenue over the last ten years. Why? If you could answer that you'd get your work stolen by some shitty exec and they'd have turned their company around rather than, you know, what literally just happened at Hasbro.
Why waste everyone's time like this? Why lie?
> Why? If you could answer that you'd get your work stolen by some shitty exec and they'd have turned their company around rather than, you know, what literally just happened at Hasbro.
Because those execs are afraid of anything that involves risks. Even if some golden information is thrown in their laps they discard it. And the Hasbro execs are exactly like that. Why do you think they haven't thrown Brand Blueprint out the door yet?
> "I have an idea for improvement"
> "Ye but thats risky and this what we know"
> "What we know" hasn't worked for DECADES
> "Still too risky k thx bye"
I've seen it happen many times.
> guy from outside the industry proclaims he's found a method that would make storytelling brands a whole lot more profitable
> pitches it to large UK company
> proves his model with an airtight case
> everyone excited
> "MUH RISKS"
See, that's not true. Hasbro just approved a plan to alienate literally all of Wizards' consumers. All of them. They wanted Magic and D&D players angry. They got it. Now they just have a giant, public L to show for it and even less revenue. Executives are perfectly willing to take risks. Especially when their entire industry is beginning to flatline.
So again, we come back to, you don't work in the industry and you don't know how to fix the industry's problems. Which gets us back to why would you lie?
I see where you're coming from and I see how my words don't make sense with reality. And that is because : these people are goddamn idiots.
> Noooo getting rid of brand blueprint is too risky!
> Changing the OGL terms is a little change that will go smoothly with some little bickering that will smooth over in 2 weeks, all big toy analysts said so! (No really)
>Executives are perfectly willing to take risks
Normal executives. Hasbro is infamous for being a special brand of moronic.
Hasbro likely thought that the DnD stuff would blow over quickly, seeing how they handled MtG in the last couple of years
Just because it's obvious to everyone with a brain doesn't mean it is to them
>75 percent of American college kids in one small survey identiy as
FTFY
>So it's best not to offend any potential customer and keep your blabber shut
>If Disney raises a gay flag, they offend their markets
>the house of Mouse has shut their crap for a long time again.
>I don't care about /misc/-ish thinking or culture wars
If you're going to lie about what you said all of five minutes ago I think we're done here
It's simply truth. You take a political position, you will offend this parent here or that grandpa there or that kid over there, and potentially lose a customer. /misc/ would go full based department and make a hitler toy or a cope&seethe toy and offend practically everyone. A Trumpist would also offend the wokies and lose customers over there. Keeping your damn blabber shut is the best policy, always.
I play GURPS. My life is already shittier than anything D&D would suffer.
But it doesn't exist in the market, anon. It's not real. It's something incels and cucks say to themselves to feel better about losing culture wars.
In absolute terms, sure. Hasbro's market cap of...4 billion? (keeps dropping) is based almost entirely on the hypothetical value of that IP. Because it's sure as hell not based on revenues. But it isn't worth Disney's time/effort to acquire them. They're not going to snag Hasbro for 4 billion like they did Lucasfilm, and the Lucasfilm IPs were worth 4x as much as Hasbro's.
Why are you lying?
Hasbro execs just unveiled Hasbro 2.0. It was a bunch of big risks designed to return the company's revenues to positive states. It blew up in their faces because they're idiots, not because they were risk averse.
I looked up Brand Blueprint and now my eyes are watering. Is there anything to this horseshit other than "We want the Call of- I mean, Marvel audience" and a sprinkling of pic related?
To be entirely clear, Hasbro's revenues are pretty much garbage outside of Wizards. Wizards was doing well before Cynthia Williams arrived, and now it's spiraling the drain.
They use a few formulaic rules that their story brands have to follow but it's all fluff and BS. It really isn't ''write me a good story for the kids'' as much as lazily listing a few tropes that would garantuee success. (for some reason)
Ye Vietnam is fine too. Any third world country with a good seafaring port would do honestly.
> MUH LYING
I'm lying jack shit anon. It's all very simple so leme just put down what I've been saying in this bread:
> Hasbro is risk averse and just wants to stick to what they know. Many toy companies do this.
> They're so risk averse they actually run more risk by being so fricking static and formulaic.
> But they're so deep in their ivory tower mentality that they lost contact with reality
> They're completely unreachable for the public or even smaller companies, even during toyfairs. I've never been able to talk to any of them despite the fricking fact I handle Hasbro merchandise for my fricking work. Best I can do is some lower level employee to get some details.
Don't know about Hasbro 2.0, I think you mean Blueprint 2.0 they unveiled a few months ago?
https://investor.hasbro.com/news-releases/news-release-details/hasbro-announces-plan-grow-profit-50-over-next-three-years
Ye that was fricking hilarious, I could see it go to shit from a mile away. And ye they're so fricking self-contradictory it makes one's head spin. tbh I can see why you would call me a liar given their stupid plans, but those are all ''low-risk'', at least from their ivory tower perspectives. Including OGL 1.2
>Disney is buying Hasbro.
Proof.
... ok?
I fail to see how it's suppose to relate to me on any fricking level, but you do you, OP.
... do they really, OP? Or you're just fishing for (You)s?
All this was predictive programming. All the OGL / CC nonsense. They want us sick of 5E and Hasbro so we accept Disney with open arms. Nevermind that Disney killed EoE and Genesys.
This fricking thread...
So, leaks on Ganker often go like this, so even without a single sauce posted, I'm inclined to believe the bullshit OP is saying.
How long am I gonna be a fool?
>the sale will be announced in the coming weeks.
Not very long.
2 more weeks
Disney buying Hasbro has been a persistent rumor since at least 2009. If they wanted them there's been many better times for M&A's from Disney than now.
this is why programmers should never be in charge of art.
>Friendly reminder that not a single person has ever actually cracked open one of Marx's books.
Plenty of people have, anon. We're just not allowed to say that we have aloud. Many Americans are more offended by you reading Marx than the Satanic Bible.
Fellow Dndgays, horsegays and collectorgays... I don't feel so good
>horsegays
I don't like toon horses. Anime horses are better.
https://toyworldmag.co.uk/hasbro-announces-global-job-cuts-and-will-focus-on-fewer-brands/
> Chris confirmed that the company remains confident in its Blueprint 2.0 strategy, unveiled in October. He added: “We are focused on implementing transformational changes aimed at substantially reducing costs and increasing our growth rates and profitability.”
LMAO they're dead
It's weird that these corporations buy up IP from their competitors, only to focus on fewer brands later on when the financials get rough due to all the purchases.
Are they doing shit like this on purpose?
I'd day these people are just fricking moronic. They have slaughtered the goose that laid the golden egg (Bronyshow) because they didn't know what to do with it and didn't care. They fricked up DnD and MtG and lost the trust of the community because of stupidity. And no one in the industry is willing to call them out on the fact they're all still getting their bonuses.
Hubris and ego are often mistaken for a conspiracy because they're that stupid and narcissistic
>They have slaughtered the goose that laid the golden egg (Bronyshow)
Weird.
But maybe they didn't want to net generation to turn into horse frickers.
if that's the case they wouldn't have stretched that shit out to almost 10 season and a flopped movie
doubt
https://www.marketbeat.com/instant-alerts/nasdaq-has-sec-filing-2023-01-30/
I can't read moneyjew. what does this mean? Jensen dumping its stock in Hasbro because they see what's coming?
They didn't sell much relative if their position, which is still relatively small. Most likely they dumped a portion to pursue other investments expecting Hasbro to continue underperforming short term.
>relative of their position
Didn't Disney just go all in on their own card game with its own system? There's very little benefit to competing with themselves by having both Magic and the one with the mouse in it, and buying Hasbro just to shut down the competition doesn't seem like a smart play when you could have just not bothered making your own and bought the competition in the first place.