I'll try and get her built. I already finished maxing out the Black Crystal Room, but I guess she'll be useful for the "clear a fight with 3 of the same crystal color" characters. I think I can live without her BT though.
Angeal and Genesis want the human Sephiroth back. Sephiroth had discarded his memories of them when he fell into the Lifestream, but he shows a VERY strong reaction to their names and especially later when Angeal starts reminding him of their life together (before the three of them fell apart). Genesis himself isn’t in OO yet, but Weiss apparently knows his intentions and helps Angeal out with Sephiroth because that’s what Genesis wants. Angeal also says that Sephiroth “Was and is my friend. Always will be.” and he would be on his side until the end even though he’s willing to fight against him. He thinks that Genesis also wants to fix things between them, and retrieving “their” Sephiroth is basically Angeal’s mission from here on. The chapter emphasises that Genesis and Angeal know Sephiroth on a very different level than anyone else in VII, and Sephiroth in turn has a strong emotional connection to them.
OO isn’t Rebirth, obviously, but this is the first time in any FF spinoff where post-crazy Sephiroth is shown to be emotionally vulnerable.
Now throw in Genesis and the Ever Crisis trio into OO and Sephiroth would get completely bullied into being their friend. Remember kids, peer pressure always wins.
Don’t know if he cares about Green Macha Tea that much, but Genesis and Angeal are clearly framed as the key to him. Zack outright says that he missed them a lot and stated going batty after losing them. It’s also interesting that Angeal uses memories of Genesis as his emotional trump card against Sephiroth, with the implication their relationship had been particularly emotionally charged.
And it works, considering Sephiroth has a full blown “I don’t need this, I don’t need you, I only need muh will” freakout in response.
that's the magic of having other characters that are willing to call out everyone's bullshit, and Destiny has a lot of bullshit to call out
>Super Robot Wars also partially rewrote Seed Destiny to be better than it's original counterpart.
Holy frick, no way. Which SRW title specifically?
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Is Onion Kid finally good after being trash forever, including the storyline where he was supposed to be this game's main character?
Z specifically, L too to an extent, a lot of times it's showed up it was post-script so this is rarer than you might think
Right now, you can pull on a banner that has Weiss/Auron/Laguna, where Weiss and Auron are dumb good and useful. Laguna is fine too but not as much as these two. Alternatively, theres a Sephiroth banner, you can get his kit, then wait for Yda tonight, pull her stuff, and set up one of the dumbest auto cheese strats where Yda basically gets infinite turns thanks to Sephi's BT weapon. Alot of the units that are currently up are all pretty good in their own area regardless if you see a favorite, any of them will help you melt thru pretty much every old content outside of Shinryu difficulty by themselves.
I'd say the pitfall to avoid is to be smart with your resources, especially with things like weapon upgrade mats and enhancement points. As a new player, you'll be swimming in it, but you can very easily melt through your stash when you start picking units to upgrade. Just be informed, you dont want to fully 110% invest in a unit you're only going to use once in a blue moon or that has a very niche kit.
And well, having fun is important too.
>Any advice or pitfalls to avoid?
If you've ever played a gacha game, this game is very much unlike every other gacha out there. There is like 2 million + gems in permanent content as well as over 10,000 tickets (which are basically pulls that do not build towards pity, and do not have a bonus rate up pull in them). These 2 million gems are enough to go to pity on 23 characters. The bottleneck in this game, as of Shinryu, is Enhancement Points, and I think as a noobie you get like 100-200k of these, and you get a free premium mooglepass which is good for another 100k+, but it costs ~30k points to fully max someone to FE50
Always pull for and max out the giga meta. Always pull for favorites, max them out if you want. Anyone else? Ticket their kit up to FR, and leave them at FE0, and only fill in their LD board + the FR Echo passive. That makes it so that you can easily carry a ticket mission unit through the fights on a budget of only 2300 Enhancement Points. As far as gems/tickets, most of those are stored in the Divine Summon boards and the Character Summon boards, which are the 2 huge grinds in this game, but you only need to do them once and you get huge rewards for doing it
Anything else, I recommmend JoeWags beginner videos on YouTube. When I was new, his were the guides that I feel like I learned the most from
>Any advice or pitfalls to avoid?
If you've ever played a gacha game, this game is very much unlike every other gacha out there. There is like 2 million + gems in permanent content as well as over 10,000 tickets (which are basically pulls that do not build towards pity, and do not have a bonus rate up pull in them). These 2 million gems are enough to go to pity on 23 characters. The bottleneck in this game, as of Shinryu, is Enhancement Points, and I think as a noobie you get like 100-200k of these, and you get a free premium mooglepass which is good for another 100k+, but it costs ~30k points to fully max someone to FE50
Always pull for and max out the giga meta. Always pull for favorites, max them out if you want. Anyone else? Ticket their kit up to FR, and leave them at FE0, and only fill in their LD board + the FR Echo passive. That makes it so that you can easily carry a ticket mission unit through the fights on a budget of only 2300 Enhancement Points. As far as gems/tickets, most of those are stored in the Divine Summon boards and the Character Summon boards, which are the 2 huge grinds in this game, but you only need to do them once and you get huge rewards for doing it
Anything else, I recommmend JoeWags beginner videos on YouTube. When I was new, his were the guides that I feel like I learned the most from
Oh, and you need every one of a unit's weapons in this game >15/35/EX/LD/FR
You need these. You just straight up do. Tickets are good enough to get you all of these weapons, and don't be afraid to use tickets when you are new. The only thing you should use gems for is if you are chasing a BT for either meta unit, or a unit you really like
You should clarify that you need all those weapons to handle most recent day/last year content. You can easily get by with someone who has an LD or FR to clear all those fistfuls of early lost chapters and at least the first 2 story arcs.
I would not recommend that an account with 10k tickets ever skip an FR. The only thing that's optional is the BT, which should only be gotten for giga meta or favorites
Dude, he needs to GET those tickets first. He doesnt have to worry about pulling an entire kit when he's going to be going thru the easiest content possible or grinding summon boards for afew good weeks. He needs to start off with something as simple as an LD to actually clear that stuff. I understand your advise here, i do, but your not applying it correctly.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>grinding summon boards for afew good weeks
Are you like a day 1 player? You can easily be completing all current content up to Lufenia on the same day if you know what you're doing, and within days/week1 if you don't. If he goes after the Auron BT, he can probably be beating the Shinryus too
6 months ago
Anonymous
Well, i assume he has a life and doesnt want to play the game for more than 7 hours straight. I dont know what speedhax your using, but all the back and forth loading screens, animations, and cutscene skipping, it would not a take a single day. Also, summon board grinding 3 units at a time, uh hello? Really? Im just not gonna bother anymore, have a good one.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Really? Im just not gonna bother anymore, have a good one.
You're making it a lot more complicated than it actually is. If you tell someone they need to spend weeks in baby mode cp15 era before they can tackle the incredibly easy endgame of DFFOO, then that is what they will be doing. There's zero reason a new player cannot be completing at least Lufenia content. My advice was also meant to be taken along with JoeWags YouTube videos, since there are more concepts and screens than a text post on Ganker can go over
I learned my lesson though. I'll keep my mouth shut. They shouldn't even think of completing Lufenia until weeks after they begin their account. I'll let you guys tell him things like his characters aren't doing damage because his artifacts aren't perfect (advice told to me, here)
6 months ago
Anonymous
>grinding summon boards for afew good weeks
Are you like a day 1 player? You can easily be completing all current content up to Lufenia on the same day if you know what you're doing, and within days/week1 if you don't. If he goes after the Auron BT, he can probably be beating the Shinryus too
Oh also, the cactuar tokens can be exchanged for stamina potions at a rate of 5:1, which I think is much better than it used to be. You can setup a macro and grind them out "pretty quick". You don't need to build up stamina potions to do this, really, and you can get to 1 pity pretty fast as well by going through and unlocking characters
6 months ago
Anonymous
Summon boards are always going to take time but there's no need to limit your first weeks to permanent content when you could try tackling limited time stuff to get rarer mats. It's true you don't need to go all out to make characters useful, though. Take Yda+Sephiroth for example, you "only" need Yda's LD and Sephiroth's BT for it to work.
Gems are your limited gacha currency, you will be getting a lot of them as a new player but spend them wisely. Never use them to continue a fight if you lose and don't spend them aimlessly in gacha. Most banners allow you to buy featured gear after you spend a certain amount, so planning accordingly is key to ensure you get what you want.
You automatically get the character if you pull their gear so don't feel pressed to speed through the story to unlock them.
Never, ever, sell gear without fully maxing it (3 times limit break + extra 3 for realizable gear). Even if it's a character you think you'll never use, keep it. You'll feel tempted to do this to acquire power stones but it's not worth it in the long run.
There's 2 weapons you can't get outside gacha: FR & LD. If there's a character you want to use you should try getting those 2 at minimum.
Add everyone you meet in coop as friends. Friend units can carry you through a lot of content.
Same tbh, I never cared much for Xande but this chapter did pretty well in endearing him to me, same with Leonora (who I didn't know because I never player The After Years).
Though, I do wish they hadn't shoved Navaat in, didn't give a shit about before nor after the chapter and all she did was piss me off frequently (and make me wanna hit Leonora on the back of her head on a few ocassions).
It's still pretty funny that the writers can't actually come up with a single fricking reason why mortality is supposed to be "the greatest gift" after 30 years other than "Doga and Unne said it was, and they're good guys so you're supposed to agree with them."
It really is, and it's no wonder why, Xande is literally right, Noah added more stuff to Doga's and Unne's repertories, meanwhile Xande's "gift" was more like an exchange.
They kind of made a good point in the chapter, especially considering Eald and his brother, but you would think Noah would have taught or given Xande something that he could use his inmortality for or that at least gave him a start to get something, instead of what he did.
What i wouldnt give for them to completely remake the games menu UIs and HUDs. They could stop releasing content for a whole month to work on it and i wouldnt even be mad about it.
I am officially freaking out. It seems to be the internet connection error but >I can connect to all of my other games perfectly >some of my games are other Square Enix games that likely have their servers in the same building as OO's >I've had no other connection issues on any other device on this network all day
I've restarted my device, the issue persists. I've tried waiting, disconnecting and reconnecting to the internet, nothing works. The next step would be to uninstall the app and do a fresh install, taking God knows how long, but considering the error occurs even when I try tapping the Data Management button on the title screen, I don't even think that would work. Frick, frick, FRICK!
Wifi. Restarted my router, nothing changed. Just tried data for the heck of it 'cause I didn't even think I had any, thanks for the suggestion. Seems to be downloading now, I'll try to see if I have enough to do my daily hunt for my dailies then quit for the day. No idea what I'll do if this persists, I'd have to quit after 5 or 6 years, however long this game's been running.
Yeah, it's frickin' over for today. Uninstalled, reinstalled, I get the same connection error when I try to transfer my data. Time to permanently be behind on sparkles.
>finish installing game >get hit with a warning I've used 50% of my data >rush to the daily hunt sweating >press hunt >get hit with a warning I've used 90% of my data >need to download 100 MB to load the hunt stage >get the no connection error because I've run out of data
Owari da
I'm so sorry anon. Try disconnecting from your network (no need to "forget", just disconnect), turn off wifi on your device and restart it, then re-enable wifi and reconnect to the network.
Thanks, but that was one of the first things I tried, no dice.
Turn off your phone data and play the game only with wifi connected? Gonna have to do that anytime you play i guess. That sounds like such a weird and rare problem
That's how I normally play, just with wifi since I have barely any data.
All else fails use an emulator or even an old phone or tablet. It may run slowly but it still works on older devices.
Damn, wish I read this before I left last night, wasn't even thinking emu. Don't have any old phones or tablets.
The good news is I can connect again to the game today, so I guess there was some freak issue with my wifi's connection to the game only yesterday and only to that particular SE mobile game. Bad news is I'm still screwed out of my dailies yesterday, what a shame it happened during a sparkles campaign. I'm gonna try and contact support to see if I can still try to get them but I've tempered my expectations.
And more bad news, it looks like Laguna FR will be the first one I skip since Kuja's since I have zero tickets and 34k gems. Got nothing on the free multi except some old 5 stars I MLB'd ages ago.
Turn off your phone data and play the game only with wifi connected? Gonna have to do that anytime you play i guess. That sounds like such a weird and rare problem
>not too interested in Laguna >do the multi-draw expecting nothing >get Laguna BT
...and to top it off, I tried to get his FR, got three dupes of weiss', one of Auron and one dupe of Laguna's BT...
...I don't even know what to feel...
You know what's the cherry on top? I was also missing Auron's BT, but not his FR, so the damn banner gave me the BT of the character whose FR I didm't have yet to bait into pulling with my scarce resources.
And like the moron I am, I fell for it...
>Kinda fricked
How though? Isn't it always the same odds? I know it doesn't feel like the same odds sometimes, but I'm pretty sure you have the same FR odds, except you also have extra chances at additional FRs, and instead of only 1 BT there are 3. All as additional odds, not reduced. I wish every banner was 3 BT and 3 FR. Your free pulls would be a lot more generally lucrative that way
>hopes my luck to get Laguna's FR with my remaining 30 tickets and 1 free multi >gives me free 3 Auron FR dupes
Even back in EX era, the game knows what the player wanted, then trolls them instead .
>Free roll gave me a Laguna FR >"alright fine I guess I'll ticket the rest of his kit" >get another copy of Weiss's BT trying to get his EX
eventually got it, up to FR, I'll probably never use him but they always tease me with this shit, at least that BT reminded me Weiss is FE50 now
>Laguna's okay, but other characters do his job better >Still, I already have him green and I'm maxed out on blue crystals, so he'd be a great budget unit >Get his FR on the free pull
>can't stop thinking about Sephiroth EX dupes >spend ~450 total tickets just to get one EX dupe for a sphere that I may never actually use >while I still have 60 ex tokens
I might be moronic, but I'm only moronic if I don't hit 0 tickets, and I know a Spiritus is coming up
>BT off-turn damage triggers even if Laguna isn't on the field and it scales with FR time
Oh that's cool. I never really used Laguna before so I had no idea. I guess I'll go ahead and green him. That sounds pretty useful.
>the only one of these mission quests I haven't cleared yet is the Dagger one >don't have any reliable DPS in dagger except a few blue characters
alright I need advice, green Locke or Zidane, which do you think is better, I'm working on Blue anyway so I could realistically benefit from either
Zidane. He's good at shutting fights down with some extra stats from blue crystals. Honestly I haven't found any use for Locke. I greened him once he got his FR and tried to drag him through a few fights, but he feels like a bit of a mess and he doesn't feel like he's contributing anything. Even when he can get off a big HP+ it doesn't feel any stronger than a hit from Aranea. I don't have Ursula's BT though so he'd probably work a lot better if you do.
Zidane it is, I've been plugging my way through the blue crystal boards towards the important ones, I'm curious to see how his numbers would come out to be once I get the EX reset one, especially in comparison to Aranea, I do have Ursula's so I might get some use out of him but it feels like it'll be a lot more work for at the very best comparable numbers, thanks for the input
I don't have Sephiroth BT, and while I think that Yda was better than Lyse, I do not care about either one. I'll get the FR like usual, but not going after BT
Not me, got nothing thanks to Laguna and my own stupidity.
Even then, would have probably just tried to get her FR, more interested in Cissnei and Arciela, maybe Snow if things had been better.
Have you played RK? It's kinda like that with weapons being needed. Still gotta build up characters but it's far faster than say, WotV. BE was also kinda quick but needed to give away more "doors" or whatever the material was to increase stats.
Yup. Got her BT before the FR and got the FR right at 200 tokens so I used less than half of my gems. I think I'll buy Fujin's BT and save the rest of my resources for Agrias.
https://dissidiacompendium.com/bonuses/crystal/abilities
Since they are mentioning turns, I believe it is Crystal Room Ability 4... but I think the speed one (basically Lunafreya's Quick Prayer) is actually the 3rd ability
https://dissidiacompendium.com/bonuses/crystal/abilities
Since they are mentioning turns, I believe it is Crystal Room Ability 4... but I think the speed one (basically Lunafreya's Quick Prayer) is actually the 3rd ability
Or, probably just CRystal ABility. Stupid abbreviation, but they can't use CA because Call Ability I guess. I still think they mean 3 instead of 4
Cursed anon here, looks like Yda will be the second FR I skip in a row. Still at no tickets and 35k gems, plus the new single challenge doesn't give tickets. Figures, during the Fujin banner when I needed gems they released content that didn't give gems and during these Laguna/Yda banners when I'm out of tickets, they release content that doesn't give tickets.
I have a perfect all the mission quests but the Halloween sticker is still locked(darkened out) is there something I done wrong or is it unlocked when it's over?
Pretty easy Shinryu tbh, ran it with a greened Fujin and Dorgann and an LD only Yda and managed to clear it fine even if i forgot to equip 5/5UWs on Dorgann and Yda.
>Pretty easy Shinryu tbh
They really all are. The only Shinryu fights that are ever remotely difficult are single target main story fights. This one was main story, but was not single target
>thinking of ways to incorporate XVI's eikons into the game without just making them BT finisher animations
I got it, they transform for a single attack every few turns, like Dagger's LD. Just replace the normal character model with something big like Enna's robot arm or larger models that pop in like Jegran's final boss form.
I'm finally going through the latest story chapter, gonna try to do both halves today so I can get caught up.
Man, they are really going out of their way at the start here to not call Xande black lmao. Seriously, the mystery of who helped Leonora out would've been instantly solved just by including that one detail.
Anyone remember or know the order that Spiritus summons were added? Want to back to the oldest one and try out some of those "clear with units from X game or weapon"
https://dissidiacompendium.com/events?filter=true&woi=true&past=true&rev=true
This is the reverse order, so: > Diablos > Alex > Levi > Ifrit > Shiva > Bahamut > Ramuh > Pande > Brothers > (Divine Odin, a Shinryu fight, but not a Spiritus fight)
Man, caught up and Xande pulled off a pretty crazy feat of magic/willpower this chapter, jeez.
FR/BT when? I always liked the guy and thought his kit was kind of cool when it released with the stronger and faster Meteor spam and building Crystal Tower overhead giving various effects, but we've long since gone past ramping up playstyles plus he's never actually been that good.
It's still pretty funny that the writers can't actually come up with a single fricking reason why mortality is supposed to be "the greatest gift" after 30 years other than "Doga and Unne said it was, and they're good guys so you're supposed to agree with them."
Same tbh, I never cared much for Xande but this chapter did pretty well in endearing him to me, same with Leonora (who I didn't know because I never player The After Years).
Though, I do wish they hadn't shoved Navaat in, didn't give a shit about before nor after the chapter and all she did was piss me off frequently (and make me wanna hit Leonora on the back of her head on a few ocassions).
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It really is, and it's no wonder why, Xande is literally right, Noah added more stuff to Doga's and Unne's repertories, meanwhile Xande's "gift" was more like an exchange.
They kind of made a good point in the chapter, especially considering Eald and his brother, but you would think Noah would have taught or given Xande something that he could use his inmortality for or that at least gave him a start to get something, instead of what he did.
They already hammered it in that the immortal characters were complacent slackers and Xande was the first person to actually reach his world. Xande's mortality is a problem for him to solve and the hunt for the solution means that he succeeds at developing magic that others only scheme at.
Eald'narche and Kam'lanaut being obsessive morons isn't due to their immortality, that's just a personal fault. Lazy idiots are gonna be lazy idiots no matter how long they have to live. No one is making the argument that characters like Fran and Quina are inherently less gifted because they live longer than everyone else. It's just a dumb cope.
The story also makes the point for the XIII crew in their LR years when they were effectively immortal for hundreds of years, not just a century like Fran. Then there is Rinoa who dreaded her sorceress's longevity. For that matter Xande actually succeeded at stopping time unlike Ultimecia.
Negatives:
XI brothers stagnation and obsolete goals
L'Cie and fal'Cie ennui and focused compulsion
Sorceress's crippling loneliness and degeneration
Positives:
You live longer, except that in III, Xande's immortal rivals ultimately do not live longer than he did nor did they particularly age gracefully compared to Xande, his scowl aside. Not to mention their so-called gifts do more to take them away from the world than let them experience more if it. They are effectively dream/magic janitors whereas Xande could work on his own wishes and die gracefully. Xande's teacher gave the other two jobs and told Xande that the mortal world was his oyster. So in the end he b***hed a lot and killed a lot for nothing special within the rules of his own world because apparently everyone there rejoins the Spirit anyway whether they are immortal or not.
>finally able to use friend units (again) >can't find the friend unit I actually want to use (again) >enter and quit stage numerous times >they still don't show up >prune friends list down to ~40 >they still don't show up >don't want to prune the list any further >complete the stage using a unit that isn't the one I wanted to use
So looks like Garland's FR partner is Spiritus. Absolutely crazy. They might be making him a playable character in the near future. Makes wonder who will have Materia as their FR partner.
>went from "they don't need to worry about overlapping partners anymore" >to "they don't even need to be fricking playable to be partners"
this is a wild ass time we're living in
That's awesome, though I guess it's kind of a shame that WoL didn't get Materia as his partner.
So who is most likely to get Materia? I don't follow the story. Is it gonna be a thing where Spiritus just gets Materia? Or is there some FRless character that matches?
The only "major" characters left without FRs are Y'shtola, Prishe and Firion, so probably one of them. Personally I think Firion would fit the best - he's the Weapon Master and Materia is the one who forges all the Ultimate Weapons. It could make for a cool animation where she gives him all of the different UWs which he then throws at the enemy.
Considering that's about as much as I know about Materia, I do like your Firion idea. I think they even did something somewhat similar with Leon where they gave him a bunch of dark versions of the copper weapons
>So looks like Garland's FR partner is Spiritus. Absolutely crazy.
Holy shit, I've been waiting for the gods to playable since day 1, but assumed they'd be the last characters released. Think level 100 will be the end of this? I don't see more than one more weapon tier being released, if that.
The only "major" characters left without FRs are Y'shtola, Prishe and Firion, so probably one of them. Personally I think Firion would fit the best - he's the Weapon Master and Materia is the one who forges all the Ultimate Weapons. It could make for a cool animation where she gives him all of the different UWs which he then throws at the enemy.
It should've been WoL due to story, but I really like this idea related to the UWs too.
Garland FR >Enemy recovers from Break in 3 turns (instead of 5)
What a fricking nothing burger. I hope Garland's numbers are good enough to use him though. He was my first free random BT, and I always like having an excuse to use him
I still can't believe that something like that can even work in DFFOO's code, when Cid Raines has BRV exploits on his FR attack with this thing. I don't know how it's not going to be buggy with at least one of the abilities
Messing around with her in JP. Interestingly it looks like the Warp is tied to Eiko herself. So if you're in a co-op and another player triggers the turn warp, the Eiko player has to select who gets the next turn.
That they are, the FR is especially adorable, which makes it being one of those healing/battery-only FR even more fitting.
That aside she seems MUCH better now, I'm looking forward to her.
>another co-op that does not have a Shinryu
Starting to hate it
Looks like the BT changed HP will do ~3mil damage to 2 targets @ zero gauge (25mil / 8). I'm not autistic enough to know how many HP attacks that is, and I don't know how to tell whether it's split or full anyway, but I think that's pretty decent damage for a support unit. Now that orbs are back it's probably not really a thing, but Eiko + Agrias + basically infinite turn hogger would be funny, though in practice UltiQuina + Agrias is probably better, with the only limiting factor on either of those being the orb
Eiko still has the utility of being able to revive you after a Lufenia orb goes off, so theoretically you could just hit buttons and not have to worry about the countdown running out.
>so theoretically you could just hit buttons and not have to worry about the countdown running out.
Do characters lose BT effects and buffs if they're revived? The only time I ever used that strat was for an Eiko solo so I dont' actually know
They lose special effects lile BT effects and Calls, but their personal buffs/Overheads simply go back to QS status, think they also keep the ability use counts the same as when they died.
Dunno how it works with Crystal Passives tho.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Crystal Passives
Do you mean something like A1? The better version of the buff sticks around even if you die, since it's tied to the number of turns that have passed.
What an awful team. At least Selh'teus can basically solo fights. I don't know how anyone can do crystal quests with yellow. There are some great units, but trying to build a functional team with them is tough.
Since the crystal missions have been added, I've tried to make it a rule that I do the ticket and crystal missions simultaneously. Leonora's fight got pretty dicey but I still managed it. Content's been so easy lately that it helps keep things interesting. Might end up breaking my rule for Spiritus Diabolos though since I'm not planning on pulling for Cissnei and you usually don't have room to screw around with those fights.
As the anon who full cleared the yellow crystal room, having Tifa/Lightning/Sherlotta/Quistis fully built was essential, and it was always a combination of three of those before Selh'teus released. Every week was hell and required following a video clear and reproducing it 100% perfectly. Then when Selh'teus released it became easy mode and I didn't even have to think any more.
He truly lived up to the hype, bless that crystal boi.
Managed to get back up to 50 tickets, and it took all of them to get Yda's FR. Still missing Laguna's and the multi tickets on Jessie's banner gave me nothing but trash. Not looking good unless we can get a lot tickets soon.
I can't believe I still do these stupid Chocoboard missions every time. They haven't even updated the rewards since the CHAOS era. Can't wait to get more Bloom Tokens.
>They haven't even updated the rewards since the CHAOS era
The did start putting High Power Stones in them pretty much as soon as Shinryu began, which at the very least is much better than when they starting giving them to JP in the Chocoboards, which I think didn't happen until around the Dorgann/Cid Raines/Seymour time
>A1 - 20% ATK & mBRV Up. Increases by a further 10% every 5 turns up to 3 times. (50% ATK/mBRV up total)
I would give him A1 personally. His overhead is based on his mBRV, and his overhead is what decides his damage. I don't think any of the other passives directly increase his mBRV like A1 does?
>A3 - 5% BRV/HP DMG up per buff. HP DMG Limit +10% flat. Buffs ticks down an extra turn on turn end.
The other thing Astos wants is HP damage up, but I know that the couple times I've used him, I seem to be going into his BT phase just as one of his QS buffs are running out, so I'm not sure if the shorter buff duration of this passive would interfere with setup. If you can manage his buffs, he would enjoy the +HP damage up
>U6 - Gain 2 uses of LD. >When using your LD Abilit: 20% HP DMG & Limit Up
Could be useful on 2 or 3 target fights. The few times I've used him, I use the free LD ability to do two S1s, but his LD is a really hard hitter, so this could give some extra oomph for multi target fights
>U2 - At the start of the quest first turn becomes an instant & free turn. If a similar effect is applied (e.g. Lightning) extends the effect for 1 turn. 30% BRV/HP Damage Up for 3 Turns.
This is another source of +HP damage, but only for 3 turns. I do imagine the extra turn might help with setup, but I do not know if the "3 Turns" of +HP damage would remain in BT phase, and if it does work you'd need to begin the BT phase on his 3rd turn, which might lead to bad setup. I think this wont work, really, but it could, so I'll include it as a possibility
Those are the ones I'd be deciding between if I were using Astos. I'd give him A1 for sure, and then honestly I'd probably use my other 2 free crystal passives to give the rest of the team what they want, assuming black crystal/sparkle missions
>A1 - 20% ATK & mBRV Up. Increases by a further 10% every 5 turns up to 3 times. (50% ATK/mBRV up total)
I would give him A1 personally. His overhead is based on his mBRV, and his overhead is what decides his damage. I don't think any of the other passives directly increase his mBRV like A1 does?
>A3 - 5% BRV/HP DMG up per buff. HP DMG Limit +10% flat. Buffs ticks down an extra turn on turn end.
The other thing Astos wants is HP damage up, but I know that the couple times I've used him, I seem to be going into his BT phase just as one of his QS buffs are running out, so I'm not sure if the shorter buff duration of this passive would interfere with setup. If you can manage his buffs, he would enjoy the +HP damage up
>U6 - Gain 2 uses of LD. >When using your LD Abilit: 20% HP DMG & Limit Up
Could be useful on 2 or 3 target fights. The few times I've used him, I use the free LD ability to do two S1s, but his LD is a really hard hitter, so this could give some extra oomph for multi target fights
>U2 - At the start of the quest first turn becomes an instant & free turn. If a similar effect is applied (e.g. Lightning) extends the effect for 1 turn. 30% BRV/HP Damage Up for 3 Turns.
This is another source of +HP damage, but only for 3 turns. I do imagine the extra turn might help with setup, but I do not know if the "3 Turns" of +HP damage would remain in BT phase, and if it does work you'd need to begin the BT phase on his 3rd turn, which might lead to bad setup. I think this wont work, really, but it could, so I'll include it as a possibility
Those are the ones I'd be deciding between if I were using Astos. I'd give him A1 for sure, and then honestly I'd probably use my other 2 free crystal passives to give the rest of the team what they want, assuming black crystal/sparkle missions
>The other thing Astos wants is HP damage up, but I know that the couple times I've used him, I seem to be going into his BT phase just as one of his QS buffs are running out, so I'm not sure if the shorter buff duration of this passive would interfere with setup. If you can manage his buffs, he would enjoy the +HP damage up
Third party observer here, chiming in to mention that Leonora is a party buff extender and the only black supercharger so if you're using them together on a black crystal team, she should be able to help manage that with her S1 that she uses to charge anyway.
Co-ops need to stop in general. They've always been the worst part of this game. I'm happier just doing Single Challenges. Same result, but at least I don't have to worry about running out of bells and can use Auto+/
Yeah, that too, but Shinryu + Skip Tickets is a nice compromise. Lufenia only co-ops is the worst of everything, especially because I think shops require way more grinding than they used back when there wasn't Shinryu
I got back into the game recently and so far Co-op has been the worst part for me. Can't skip them because they give out BT+ shit but doing them each time is a slog.
If you could LD spam them they would be okay but you have to use 3+ long ass FR attacks that were designed to be seen once or twice per fight which just makes people lose focus when their turn finally comes up. Sometimes you can use quicker attacks at the finish but it's still a risk. But really the shops are overpriced.
It's just autism. I farmed perfect artifacts for everyone waaay back when I used my free premium mogpass. Everyone, that is, except the XIV characters, because I thought what's the point
Same. The only ones I'm missing are Y'shtola and Alisaie, who haven't been featured in...jeez, it must be literal years now for them to be the only chars I don't have perfect arts for.
>want Cissnei >also want Arciela
I want both of these girls, but there is an upcoming campaign banner that has both Arci and Cissnei on it (with Leonora), so I'll probably skip them for now, since that campaign banner is only really ~1.5 months away with this accelerated schedule. There is also the possibility that they change the campaign banner though...
Careful bro, those campaign/seasonal banners with reruns are the ones that get changed the most! good luck on your pulls, I'm finally back up to 70k gems so I got my nest egg secured for Arci. Gonna have to skip Cissnei, I guess. I don't think I'm gonna be able to get Laguna or Snow's FR, either.
How is Snow now anyway? He always seemed like a cool tank.
>How is Snow now anyway? He always seemed like a cool tank.
He's good, nothing too broken or anything but he can still put in work if you want him to.
His main issues are his focus on ST damage (only his LD, BT Finisher and Vendetta(+) are fully AOE, his S1, S2 and EX are ST though his EX has one splash instance) and his lack of off-turn damage to punish the enemy's turns he wants them to get, but despite that he can still do pretty well in fights (Vendetta+ adds a lot of damage to his own turns and his tanking abilities are pretty good).
>want Cissnei >also want Arciela
I want both of these girls, but there is an upcoming campaign banner that has both Arci and Cissnei on it (with Leonora), so I'll probably skip them for now, since that campaign banner is only really ~1.5 months away with this accelerated schedule. There is also the possibility that they change the campaign banner though...
Not really. She is really good though. While her BT aura is up it prevents bosses from gaining buffs and her own debuffs won't go down, so she'll basically permanently silence bosses and keep them from gaining brave as long as her BT aura is active. There are ways for some bosses to bypass that, but it's pretty solid 90% of the time. But we do have other characters who can lock out bosses, like Paine, or characters with enough paralyzes to permanently paralyze a boss. Plus when a boss is Silenced they can't attack, so you can't run her with counter-attackers. Still, she is really good and her personal damage is decent.
She does the Aerith Force Gauge charge thing, and she has 16% True Damage on her BT aura (based on amount of enemy debuffs). For comparison, Weiss adds 10% (but he also has preempts). That's what I view her as, anyway. True Damage I think is kinda rare, but the Aerith gimmick is becoming more common. Minwu gets Echo in a month or two, Penelo gets Echo, then Eiko has it
She isn't a big game changer, but she does hold up pretty well. There's a lot of characters that came out after her that she's managed to stay competitive with. Hell, look at how she's rated the same as Eiko who just came out a few days ago.
>Rubicante can solo most fights >94 for forever >Kelger can solo most fights >94 for forever >Seymour, Cid Raines, Raijin >85, solely for their call, though no note of this is made anywhere >Cater also has this "85", probably also for the call ability only, though she is also a character capable of soloing fights like Rubicante and Kelger, so it's more ambiguous >Relm provides *negative* value to the party >80, the same rating as Enna Kros, who can provide your party with up to 90% HP damage cap up, and the same rating as Deuce who is also good... and also the same rating as Gilgamesh, who is a meme character at this point >this "80" is also the same rating as Aerith >Snow, who has all of the same pitfalls that both Reks and Zack had >81, higher rated that Setzer, Quina, Aerith, Kain, Lenna, Deuce, Enna Kros, Beatrix, and Cor >speaking of, Cor and Beatrix have a 70, which is lower than Jessie, Jihl, fricking Relm, Gilgamesh, etc >Rem is still pretty decent, makes your party immortal, good turn hogger, setup, turn order, etc >she has a 50, which is the same rating that LD only characters have >Eiko single handedly turns every character into Rem/Cid Raines >only a 95 >Setzer used to be higher than Quina, now they are the same
Oh nice, didn't realize the spiritus was tonight. With some luck, I might be able to pick up some of these recent FRs I had to pass on with the tickets.
Got shit all, just like the past 3 or 4 banners. Thanks anyway bro.
Is there any team comp that can hit all 9 nodes for Spiritus grinding? Best I can find is Ace (Green/Throw/0), Serah (White/Bow/13) and then either Aerith (Staff/7) or Shantotto (Black/Staff)
Came here to ask the same question.
>check Leonora's stickers >she sounds cute
Brehs... I might pooooll...
She's SUPER cute, but not very good.
t. cursed anon who got completely screwed over by her and has her built
(3/3) Dorgann and Sephiroth still a fun combo (I probably should have used Iris, but eh). Was gonna do a Jessie carry at some point, but I managed to nab Cissnei's BT with the two mission tix, so...
Is there any team comp that can hit all 9 nodes for Spiritus grinding? Best I can find is Ace (Green/Throw/0), Serah (White/Bow/13) and then either Aerith (Staff/7) or Shantotto (Black/Staff)
I would get her FR and LD at least. She has a huge toolkit. Off-turn healing, and party last stands along with Enna Kros/Sherlotta attacks are all rare and she has them in one place along with charging, buff extension, and a damage reduction aura.
Her follow up has 3 hp dumps. Her BT aura makes her hit with her follow up twice, so she has 6 HP dumps. That makes her the strongest follow up character in the game (though Kadaj can tie her against single target enemies). She keeps that position even in the current JP meta, though Agrias is better when the FR gauge hasn't been activated yet.
Between the two of them, I'd probably just keep using Weiss honestly. She has more HP dumps, but he's got true HP damage and party debuff immunity. Cissnei on her own doesn't do anything besides damage, even if it's slightly more damage.
I'm biased towards Weiss because I've got points in blue crystals (as well as red for Kadaj), but I've got issues with the way Cissnei's kit works compared to his. Weiss' BT gives him extra party support utility on top of his pre-emptive attacks. Cissnei's BT just makes her less of a pain in the ass to use and makes the one thing she does twice as good. I was hoping I'd get her BT, but after using her for the ticket mission I doubt I'd have used it much anyway. She just isn't very interesting.
How to burn through 400 tickets...
I finished my spiritus grind and spend a bit more than half of them getting Cissnei's FR and Laguna's FR (after FOUR Weiss dupes and an Auron dupe when both are already MLB). Spent the remaining 175 trying to get Snow's FR only to come up with nothing.
Assuming that crystal level 100 will be the last, are there any special passives you'd like to see? We've already got buffed extensions of skills and a 2nd rework of EXes for earlier crystal levels. I really hope to see them get crazy: >big stat boosts >bonuses similar to crystal room boons >things like extending BT buff length or an extra BT turn (or use of the + skill) >an extra 10% or so for FR boosts
>are there any special passives you'd like to see?
For me, the Crystal Room stuff is far better and more inventive than I could have ever asked for. And then they did it again with they Crystal Room abilities, which are kind meh, but I would not have thought of that myself. I hope they do something like that again where I'm surprised by how cool and unique it is. The only bummer is that for the Crystal Rooms it feels like about half of the passives are completely useless, and the same thing for the Crystal Abilities
I still think that Force should have worked fundamentally differently. The Gauge should have functioned like a Break gauge, except that it would be a push and pull between you and the enemy. There would be a condition each fight has that you need to hit (basically an Lufenia orb) in order to fill the break gauge, which at the same time also combats the enemy filling your break gauge (thus the push and pull). Obviously if the enemy Breaks your gauge, it would probably be game over, but then if you Break their gauge, you'd go into what we now have as Force Time. In my mind, my version plays faster than current Shinryu, so I think it would be 5 turns of Force Time, but maybe the multipliers would be bigger, so that maybe most fights would be 2 somewhat quick Force Times and push-pulls. I dunno. Anyway, I think Force Enhancements would affect how much gauge that character can add during Break, and maybe even how much Break gauge they fill when outside of Force Time, allowing them to fill the gauge a little bit even when they're not hitting the "gauge condition". This would make it so that you only really need to Force Enhance your favorites, so that you can cause them to be useable in every fight, and you wouldn't need to Force Enhance the banner units because obviously they'd already be hitting the gauge condition and contributing to the fight that way
But, we're not doing that, so I don't know what I'd add to what we currently have
>Use Diabolos tickets to go back and get Snow's FR >Get Jessie's BT along the way >Didn't realize that she, of all people, gets Let the Battles Begin as her BT track
Would have made sense for her the get something from the remake. High Five would have worked.
Sorry anon, ever since c90 the only rework a character is allowed to get is six more BRV dumps on every skill and an HP damage cap up on some passive somewhere.
It's just that fricking mag absorbtion that fricks it all up when the gauge goes to 50/70/whatever, on top of the later debuffs. I also heard something about elemental weakness needing to be hit, but nothing seems to suggest that in game.
>Cater call RNG dodge shit >Cater LDCA @ 70% to eat the paralysis >press buttons until FR >kill them
You can also solo it with Sice, if you have her kit, which is probably easier since Sice already dodges everything naturally. All you really need to do is beat them to Force Time, which you can do easily with either Chocobo/Sylph or by using Cid Raines calls to build the Summon gauge. Then you just keep evasion and traps up until they die
So playing around with Yda, I can't help but think how weird it is that she doesn't exist in the story any more after being "replaced" by Lyse several years ago. And I'm wondering, what if the story introduced a "new" character without taking up the character slot for that month and it was... Yda. The real one. Gameplay-wise, nothing would change other than being able to use Yda and Lyse on the same team, but the story would be able to have the sisters interact with each other. Hey, if Reks, Braska, and the Dawn Warriors can get in, why not Yda?
>the story would be able to have the sisters interact with each other
I feel like this was a missed opportunity, but I guess something like that would be up to the XIV team.
Damn, sorry to hear that Anon. I was hoping I was the only person here getting screwed recently, guess my bad luck's contagious. Hope you have fun punching the shit out of things with her though!
She's good for punching through their BRV shields, but that's it. She's really lacking without her BT, and she doesn't have any other utility besides crit rate up. BRV shields are kind of a pain these days since everyone seems to only do one BRV hit between dumps anymore with battery making up the difference. It's hard to go through and try to figure out who's good at it anymore.
>*with 3 crystal passives
You mean 2. Also, D3 and D6 are by far the most impactful Crystal Passives. I've given that advice here before, I think twice. Off-turn has been the objectively best strategy for all of Shinryu, except in the scant few fights that force a more on-turn strategy, but most of those can be off-turned as well. They make the objectively best strategy for the past year and a half even better. They also provide overhealing and reduce damage taken, which are useful things on their own even for units that are not off-turn. And then finally, you can use D3 and D6 to manipulate your team's turn order as well as allowing yourself to more easily be able to carry ticket mission characters by forcing them to take less turns
I had no crystal passives on him since i focused on green/black and still carried Ciss thru it, along with Lenna to start the fight with extra gauge, who only had up to her FR weapon on.
I don't get it. It really seems like 50/50 whether DE11 wants to absorb attacks or not when their force triggers. Well, I beat it after finally getting the set-up right. Not quite as simple as timing the Cater LD call at around 50~60%, no siree. If only that was all that was required.
After the 6 troll FRs and BT pity from Cissnei. Then my 400 tickets is just a single Kain FR which I already have.
This shit kept me away from buying mogpass again. It's always the FR you don't need that drops multiple times before you pity what you need. And if you don't even want the new FR/BT, guess what? You'll get it for free!
Being a lucklet is suffering.
My jaw literally dropped when a second one appeared after the first. I wasn't counting and assumed it was the 11th orb. This happened around 320 G tokens and I got 3 copies of her FR, so I nabbed the last copy with tokens for the MLB. Finally, some great luck!
I had a good day today, fellow lucklet. I hope your day comes soon!
>Alright, let's see who I've got in white crystals... >Man, I don't think I ever used Enna Kros at all. >...Wait, why the FRICK did I green Braska?
I've this issue where I'm just incapable of sitting on my resources, so stuff like this keeps happening. But being able to dust off my benchwarmers from time to time feels better than having a stockpile of nuggets in my inventory, so I don't think I'll ever learn better.
I WISH I can use my resources. I'm sitting on almost 20 BT books and 12 ingots with nothing to use them on because I haven't pulled a BT since Lenna. If I wasn't almost certain this game will EoS in about another year, I'd just reroll.
>Arci gave me her entire kit on the free pull in Lufenia >she gave me her FR on the free pull in Shinryu >no BT, so she doesn't actually want to marry me
Cute
Personally I don't think it's an appropriate name given what "true damage" refers to in other games, just like I think "HP dump" is a moronic thing to call "HP attack", and just like how the thing everyone calls "HP damage cap up" is actually "Max BRV cap up". Usually "true damage" refers to something that always hits and always deals a fixed amount of damage, even through shields and damage reduction and what have you
> - Party Deals 16% additional HP damage on Attacks
This is how the game describes the thing everyone refers to as "true damage". It's just an instance of additional damage, which is usually a flat percentage of an HP attack. So in the case of Arciela, if you have an enemy with 8 debuffs, you will deal 16% additional damage on HP attacks while her BT aura is up. So if you deal 100,000 per HP attack, you will also be dealing an additional 16,000 damage per HP attack. Just an instance of damage that scales off of 1) the damage done per HP attack, and 2) consequently, the amount of HP attacks that a character has (= more instances of this additional damage to occur)
True Damage basically bypasses all enemy defenses. You'll automatically deal that damage to them whenever the True Damage triggers, even if they would otherwise be immune to all damage. Some True Damage scales with FR time (like Weiss or Arciela) because it's based off the damage that another attack does. So the more damage that attack does, the higher the True Damage. But some True Damage (like HP Poison attacks from Exdeath or Agrias) don't scale with FR time because they just deal a specific amount of damage, regardless of how high the FR gauge goes.
>Arciela made me go full pity
well, I stuck to my "always pull for XI" mentality, and I'll continue to stick to it, but I wish she had been a little nicer about it
Is that FR effect as useless as it sounds, or is there some extra utility to it? All Garland really needed was extra damage so it's not like it matters if his Force Time effect is ass, but it's weird that the devs bothered giving him such an esoteric effect as "enemy recovers from break faster" when we have Sephiroth, Iris, and Dorgann already.
Really it's just there to give a little help for teammates to fulfill his second FR condition (previous turn was an ally's turn +40%) and help with his BT aura (which loses all stacks when an enemy gets a turn). Between the faster rebreaks from his FR (if you use it) and Garland's natural delays, enemies probably won't be getting any turns.
Garland's FR gives him the minimum of self-sufficiency in preventing bosses from getting turns, but there are definitely other, better options if you want to use them.
When are we supposed to be getting the huge in game notice instead of the stream? Stream would have already happened, but notice didn't. Is this gonna be a Thursday thing or is it gonna be a gap all the way till Sunday?
>last event of the month on Wednesday.
Today is Wednesday, and the last event discussed on the previous stream was the Arciela Heretic Event that just happened before today. Right now, we don't know what else is going to happen, or when it is going to be. We are currently flying blind
>Stream is next week
There is not going to be a stream. There is going to be an in game notice. This was discussed on the previous stream, and it was not given a date. I just would have expected it released with Arciela's event. If it's not with Arciela's event, then my question is will it be on Thursday (which would possibly be the next event's release date) or are the going to dead week us all the way until next Monday (which is presumably when a stream might have been)?
>hit 700k gems a while back >go into monk mode saving >back up to 950k >might have a cool 1 mil going into Re-Shinryu >also have 2 BTs worth of tokens saved
Feels good, man
And then there's me, with 60k gems, just a few BT tokens shy of 50 and missing countless BTs, at least in the double digits.
Managed to scrounge up 79 tickets, and 60 of them got me Snow's FR (after dumping around 200 into that banner already), so at least I'm keeping up on FRs except for the 4 I skipped wayyy back that never, ever got rerun either because global axed their rerun banner or they haven't even got one in JP. If you're curious, they're Lilisette, Kuja, Maria and Llyud.
>so at least I'm keeping up on FRs except for the 4 I skipped wayyy back that never, ever got rerun
Same, except mine are Kuja, Krile, Desch, and Vayne
I'm constantly broke too because I don't know how to walk away from a banner (I've got 110k right now and that's the most I've had at once in a long time). My BT luck's been terrible ever since they started giving them to everyone, but I've got a good record with FRs. I'm missing 23 BTs, but the only FRs I don't have are Relm, Ciaran, and Llyud.
Are there any stickers or voicelines at all that i can use to tell someone to swap to a bonus unit or hint at it? Im just trying to finish the Jessie coop shop before, i dont care what unit they use or if they even have anything equipped on them, it just has to be a bonus unit
>Luck out a new FR/BT that I planned to skip >Immediately max them out >Never use the character outside of debut event >Refuse to elaborate >Leave >Luck out another FR/BT
>Speaking of
Minwu's regular traps went from 1 -> 2
Minwu's special trap went from 3 -> 5
But there is no "speaking of". I feel like I explain this way too often. They're not the same, like, at all. Cor didn't get extra HP attacks on his preempt/follow up. Kain didn't get extra HP attacks on his spears. Freya might, actually, but even she might not. Sice and Ace traps are more comparable to Cor or Kain or Freya than they are to actual traps, since they trigger on every enemy, every field turn (except inside of Burst). They are fundamentally different. They have different triggers, and Team Ninjas has shown time and again that those two fundamentally different abilities have different power levels. A Sice/Ace trap on 2 targets is the same as Cor/Kain. It's actually in most cases slightly better, because you can very often get it to hit as if it's 1 full HP attack per enemy instead of 1 full with 50% splash, and in those cases it functions as "2 full HP attacks per field turn" which is better than what Cor and Kain get, and is definitely better on 3 targets
...mate, I'm only asked because I remembered that and got curious if I was right or wrong, so I just took the chance to ask at once, I wasn't trying to compare them.
Considering how much favoritism the game shows Seifer in the storyline, I figured he'd be one of the first non-protagonist/villains to get a BT but he's still waiting for a bite.
Cool as that would look, I'd be annoyed if they give him a counter on his BT considering he's a delayer/debuffer. Ideally, I'd like him to get backup from Galbadia Garden, maybe getting a follow-up where dudes on motorcycles run the enemy down whenever someone delays an enemy.
I could see them sneaking a reference in to his FR animation. Like have Kadaj or Kam'lanaut or someone show up and fire a shot at one enemy, "accidentally" targeting Seifer as well- then the counter goes off as splits the attack in two, causing it to hit all enemies in the process.
>no Thursday event (as is usual for a Monday event) >no Thanksgiving event/release to bring in Black Friday/Cyber Monday stuff
I guess it's going to be Sunday then. They usually dedicate like 2 or 3 slides to brand new shit being added to the game, and Memorial Battles should be happening now. I figure most people already know about this stuff, but it's going to be so much different than it normally is
>doing a Spiritus shinryu (diabolos) for the first time in a long while >forgot how much fricking HP they have
Even with 999% with big attacks for like 2~3 turns that drop in health was way too small per attack.
If anything is a problem, it's the HP gates. The Spiritus fight "only" has as much HP as some of the lvl 3 crystal quests do (380 mil spiritus vs 375 mil on what is currently the high end of the crystal quest enemies)
>wanted to use my last set of BT tokens on Arciela, but they moved her banner so far back that I couldn't >next set of BT tokens expire in 2 weeks
Hopefully I will be able to get Keiss, Faris, or Gladio with these. It doesn't look like they're going to be able to stretch to Rydia
Going in JP release order it's Irvine, Cait Sith, Amarant, Keiss, Ultimecia and then Faris. Depending on what they do with the schedule, it's possible we'll see her release next month. Definitely by early January at the latest.
>want Cissnei >also want Arciela
I want both of these girls, but there is an upcoming campaign banner that has both Arci and Cissnei on it (with Leonora), so I'll probably skip them for now, since that campaign banner is only really ~1.5 months away with this accelerated schedule. There is also the possibility that they change the campaign banner though...
Well, Arciela *was* close enough for me to use my tokens on her and then the schedule changed so no she wasn't, but Faris is in the cards for things that happen next month. Memorial Battle 1 and Irvine are not pictured here, so those need to happen also
We've had long gaps before, but this just feels weird because of how many events were released so close together. I guess they figured that between the Spiritus, Jessie's LC with the absurdly grindy co-op shop, and Arciela's event, we'd have enough content to last us through Thanksgiving while the staff went on vacation. I would have put Jessie's LC at the end. I definitely grinded that out more than I wanted to just so I would have it done before Arciela, whose missions were easy to knock out in two sittings.
I also would have liked the infographics up earlier. Even if they told us we weren't getting any new content for almost two weeks, that's still better than going two weeks not knowing what's next.
>I get the suspicion that the reason we sped up is so they can hit EoS on both versions at the same time
Obviously the reason for the speed up is so that they can put JP and GL on the same schedule, removing GL foresight (increasing spending?) and also lowering production costs due to simultaneous event schedule, especially if they can get it on the same client. That's always the reason for this type of thing. I've thought since it was first announced that it would sync up around the anniversary, but I don't think that every character will have gotten a BTFR by then, and at this point I do think that every character (except maybe the XIV ones) will get a BTFR before EoS
I don't understand why the super late content or why ~~*39*~~ Relics of All Knowledge though. The super late content could be some JP simul release like Papalymo was? But I'm completely stumped on 39. Why not 30? Why not 40? Is 39 a fatfinger, or is it intentional? Why the Relics at all? Why such a large number of them?
>removing GL foresight (increasing spending?)
GL foresight does not do anything in this game. The only thing that jumbling the schedule did these past 3 months was make bosses rubber band between 400 million hp and 200 million and back. Maybe a few people got fricked on BT token expirations.
>being able to plan your pulls months in advance does nothing >shuffling a known schedule is the same as removing foresight entirely
The pool of possible characters is dwindling, and thus process of elimination becomes more accurate, but otherwise I completely disagree
What are some weapons that have completely eluded you over time, despite multiple reruns and the sheer age of them? Is there anyone who still somehow doesn't have Squall's BT for example?
Still don’t have Exdeaths LD, despite having his BT and everything else. At some point I even debated on selling the BT for tokens because of how long iv had it.
I don't have Noctis BT. I don't have Squall either, but I feel like I should have Noctis BT by now, whereas I do not feel this way about Squall. Haven't directly pulled with the intention of acquiring either one of those, but that's my answer to your question. Noctis
>so close to being able to get Rydia BT >they aren't going to release her
What the frick, just put her BT in the shop and let me buy it with tokens or something, shit
Whoa.
Day 1, Hour 1 player here. Had a good run I suppose. Bought 2 skins, so dropped around a hundred bucks over the years, I'm fine with that.
To those who from /ffg/ who played co-op with me back in the day when it was actually fun and not just "press LD/FR 3 times", thanks for the memories.
OO IS A FRICKING DEAD GAME!
Been reading these words on at least a weekly basis for years now. If you're the OG memester, you finally made it!
>EoS before Cinque's BT >Agrias got an amazing BT shortly before EoS >Rikku is forever scrapped
>no Cyan BT >no Umaro
These were the two things I wanted most before EoS. And there was always the wild hope we'd get Benjamin as a global first.
Where's the story at in JP? Will they at least finish it?
>finally get Tactics stuff >Squall never got his Lionheart >All those other charcters that never got a FR or BT
T_T. Is this just a global shutdown? Is JP still going?
Both at the same time. Another anon above suggested the story will get a final cutscene among the ones on YouTube, but I have seen nothing conforming this.
>Another anon above suggested the story will get a final cutscene among the ones on YouTube, but I have seen nothing conforming this.
I think I'm really the only person who read the notices
Nothing there says that they'll be releasing an actual ending cutscene. I think you need to brush up on your reading skills instead of bragging.
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>I think you need to brush up on your reading skills instead of bragging.
Anon, I'm the only person in this thread who seems to have read the in game notices, so your paraphrasing ("Another anon above suggested the story will get a final cutscene among the ones on YouTube") almost certainly came from something that I said, and I've only ever said what is in this notice
It's nice to have a little "best of" before the end but not gonna lie, it's a little discouraging to play now, knowing that the game is dead, even though I like it so much.
>was extremely close to buying the costume token thing >than this happened
Phew, goddamn that was a close one.
So post how much you’ve spent on the game. Iv only ever bought the mog pass twice, and the premium pass once (when we had a bunch of event running at the same time).
I only spent $5 for the mogpass when they fricked up the summons and had 2 months worth of events at the same time. In the end, I still haven't used those Enhancement Points
Bought every big mog pass, so that's like $40 a month for ~2 years. Bought 30 costumes. Bought every weapon gloss. So off hand I'd guess I spent about 2.5k?
Guess there's no point in logging in anymore. All the characters I grinded will be unnacessible and there's no reason to grind the others. I hate mobile gaming. But I do loved this game visuals and fornat.
Well that’s kinda said. I wasn’t looking forward to the comeback of lufenia orbs and all the bullshit of the new difficulty but still, kinda sucks. Kinda had fun with the game too despite everything
Didn't the devs say in an interview at one point that they planned on making an offline version after the game ends? Or was that a different FF gatcha?
Pretty sure that's only referring to offline in-app cutscenes. That said, I've been googling around and can't find any mention of any proposed offline version. I was probably thinking of a different game.
>we felt that releasing the cutscenes in video form would allow you to enjoy your favorite scenes wherever you want >We plan to release these videos on YouTube after service concludes
I can look up any cutscene on israelitetube already you knuckledraggers, the entire point of people wanting an offline version of a game is to play the game part.
>45 dollars >1k-ish downloads
Not a bad final payout for turning off multiplayer and jury-rigging the game to offline. Genuinely surprised this doesn't happen more often, especially for big companies/IPs
The offline version is incredibly tedious with grinding, and you have to suffer through it to actually “buy” unlocks for characters. I’m not paying 45 to suffer with a complete chore.
F for you all. Always heard it was a good game and tried it a bit but never stuck. Crazy it was making so little even on JP I guess ever crisis sucked the air out of the room.
>Crazy it was making so little even on JP I guess ever crisis sucked the air out of the room.
GL was making 2-3x was JP was making for a long while now. OO probably got the axe due to Ever Crisis, but the downward trend began with the newest game mode (Shinryu) which has been going on for about a year and a half now. It's just very unfun and also does not encourage pulling the same way the previous, much more engaging game mode did (Lufenia)
Someone beg him to relay to the dev team to just copy and paste the BTs and FRs over in Japanese, who gives a shit. I just want to play with the new toys, and I dont' want to download a JP EoS game to do it
>They also knew way ahead of time.
This basically confirms the sped up, goddamn.
I've been very tolerant to previous mobile's EoS from Square because of I have to be honest I believe people are overreacting on the whole things, but this legit feels like they played around with consumer's trust.
I hope Ever Crisis was worth doing this, I guess.
>but this legit feels like they played around with consumer's trust.
Every gacha that has ever EoS'd has known months in advance, even before announcing EoS. This is nothing new, he was just more honest about it
I was referring to the part you quoted. He's still got to do his job, at the end of the day. I assume other gacha games also have live streams where they know for months in advance that the game is EoS and still they soldier on. All live service games EoS
I was preparing myself for this for a while now by looking for "replacement" gachas in case of DFFOO going EoS. I hope Reverse: 1999 will fill the void for me
I'm hoping Heaven Burns Red gets an English version in the near future. I know there's been some rumors and I've generally been happy with the WFS in-house gachas (as opposed to their IP ones).
It's a shame. JP OO just lost too many whales with the Paid Gem Cap and was never able to recover. In GL OO they delayed the cap and then introduced the multi-tickets. Maybe if they'd done that in JP the game would have been more financially stable.
I just wanted Eiko's BT and FR. I was really happy to see that she got them but now I won't be able to. I guess I can download the JP version and get them, but it just won't be the same.
It fricking hurts doesn't it? I was waiting for Rufus since the game started. I feel like it might have been better if he hadn't been released, than to release him but not let any of the GL players get him.
>I guess I can download the JP version and get them, but it just won't be the same.
Yeah, I'm not really excited about the prospect of downloading an EoS game and then essentially rebuilding an account in a language that I don't understand just to be able to click 1 or 2 more buttons on my favorite characters
For me, it's Agrias. I'm sure people are sick of me bringing this up, but I started playing the game during her debut so she had sentimental value as a character to me. For her to finally get a really good BT/FR, and then finding out I'll never get to use it, is what hurts most about this announcement.
Got her BT not FR on her old banner. But latest character draw has her banner which given free draws on each. So the accumulated 300 coin FR shop was used on her. EASY free FR.
Now I can use her even though she is not even fully built. I like it when her paralysis proacts.
Rydia's BT, unfortunately. Benjamin from Mystic Quest is another. Or LeBreau. Or Rikku
posted. Were not even getting the shitty looking if effective BT. Im still bewildered that she never even got an outfit, that just straight up makes no sense.
I basically played this game for Rydia despite the weird stupid descisions they did with her. But it was a fun ride and getting another 3D Rydia was neat.
It's a sad day. I know they aren't planning on doing an online version, but being that this is part of the Dissidia canon, hopefully they can do something with it later. Future generations need to be able to see the Kadaj redemption arc and recoil in wondering who the hell Layle is and how he got in before Lightning.
I dumped all my gems on the XV/Type-0 banner since I was missing the most BTs there. Of course, the only one I got was one I already had, but it's nice to be able to pick up some of the characters I missed recently. I'll still be playing until the servers close.
Any idea what we're supposed to do to get those "Weekly reading" missions done? I get what some of them are a reference to (I even have a screenshot of the cutscene with that "You guys having a costume party?" line), but I guess you just have to watch the cutscene it's referencing? I'm definitely gonna go through Memoria Theater again anyway.
is it possible they could save these models for another FF game? seems kind of a waste to throw away after EoS. I haven't gotten through Act I yet. at least I could view that tonberry troupe site or database to read the dialogue.
No chance. The game is run by Team Ninja, not Square Enix. Team Ninja can't do anything with the models without Square's permission, but likewise Square would need Team Ninja's permission if it wanted to do anything. I can't see either side wanting to bother enough to try and use those models. If either company wants to make a new Dissidia gacha, they'll be making new models for it.
Rydia will always be my vidya waifu and she had a fair enough shake, but whenever Shelke was viable I had the most fun in the game playing with her. Ursula too.
On the guy's side I liked Ceodore and Ace and of course Galuf.
Surprisingly Cor. I didn't give a rats ass about him on release but he ended up being insanely fun to use on pretty much every team, whether a rush down team, an off-turn team or anything else. I probably ended up using him more than anyone else.
Mog gets a special mention though. He has my absolute favorite animations. His EX is the same pose from the box art for FF6. His LD summons up an army of moogles, and his LD is fun with him high-fiving Krile. I didn't use him too much, but I always had fun when I did.
She wasn't as fun after getting her LD. I missed having to keep her MMO rotation in mind. I'm sure her BT would have locked her stacks and just let her spam Redoublement every turn.
>I'm sure her BT would have locked her stacks and just let her spam Redoublement every turn.
kek that's honestly pretty faithful to XIV, considering you can do 3 melee combos in a row now in Endwalker
Rydia is GOATed, even if her kit was frickin nonsensical when it worked it worked.
Also her LD fight was probably the funniest fight in the game.
Different characters shined hard throughout the game but I cant think of a character that made content so much easier when she showed up than Aranea did, her bullshit when she showed up was hilarious.
She's my favorite character and it was fun absolutely shitting all over Cosmos once she showed up.
Honestly a lot of why i had quit was because of how totally unusable she was in Chaos.
Rem was a ton of fun too, being able to give someone a turn was always cool.
Ehh, I'm a sucker. If they end up bringing some of my favorite characters into a gacha I'll pick it up. Fortunately my favorite characters tend to be secondary party members, so it's unlikely they'll be added to any newer gachas anytime soon.
>at 46/50 BT Tokens >can't buy more because they won't transfer an overflow >"oh, I know, I'll sell a BT I've maxed, maybe that will-" >can't sell any BT's
how do I fix this
I pulled an Ultimecia BT on the free pulls and I was able to sell it and it went to my mailbox, but it was all 5 tokens that went to my mailbox. Fricked up if you can't sell a BT to fix it
I've tried that on a couple of different BTs and they all just give me a buzz like "no you can't do that" so I don't fricking know, is it because I have 46/50 and the 5 they give would put me over that limit too? I just wanna spend on new fancy toys man
Really hope FF9 gets a remake in the near future. I'm gonna miss my bro Steiner, the rat and the brat, and they're not in any other gachas I'd like to play.
What a thing to wake up to.
Well, I was only missing 6 FR weapons (Hope, Sice, Krile, Desch, Sabin, Faris) and I have them now, so I guess all that's left is to max absolutely everyone before the end.
So that's it then. No level cap 100, no new BTS/FRs, no Rikku, no Red XIII, no new Tactics characters, the last couple of ones in JP will be locked there and the story isn't even allowed to be concluded like SinoAlice.
Considering the last factor, what's even the point of releasing the cutscenes on YouTube if it's an incomplete story?
They'll be translating everything and putting it up for GL players to view. Act 4 Chapter 9 part 1 will release in JP in the middle of January and then Act 4 Chapter 9 part 2, which will be the final story chapter in Opera Omnia, will be releasing January 31.
That's a bit better I guess, but it's still incomplete, is it that hard to make one last cutscene during these months that says "we're free to come back to our worlds, bye"?
I mean that'll probably be how the game will end, unless they decide to use it to set up the next Dissidia game. JP will get it. GL gets the shaft , but when it comes to gachas, GL almost always gets the shaft compared to JP. Still, I I can't be too salty because OO was better than most. It's pretty much the only game I can think of where GL got extensive, unique content (like Abyss) that the JP version of the game never had. I can't think of any other gacha where that happened.
>It's pretty much the only game I can think of where GL got extensive, unique content (like Abyss) that the JP version of the game never had. I can't think of any other gacha where that happened.
There are also numerous QoL that GL has which JP does not, like the party screen after beating the level or the BRV numbers being able to be turned off
>See one of the D2D stages is Braska's Final Aeon >"Yuri and Jack should be able to handle this. I'll throw Nine in for some protection. Why not?" >They have WAY more health than they used to
This is gonna be rough, especially since there are gonna be 27 stages with lockouts affecting all of them. The Jecht fight is mechanically tough, too. I don't want to burn Cater or Kelger here already, but they're among the few characters that have an easy time with it.
Now I'm totally free from gacha hell.
The FF7 gacha looks like shit and I will not bother to play that. While I dropped FFBE 3 years ago as a day 1 player. Too bad, I really liked DFFOO.
Just heard the news, sorry for your loss. All things considered, I'd say the game had a pretty good run round here. Can't say I'll miss it like I do Mobius. Man, it feels like every FF gacha not made by Gumi is doomed to die at some point...
>wake up >game's dead
Well, I guess it's time to burn some of these multi-draw tickets. I've been saving because I wanted literally every BT coming up after Arciela. Funny we won't be getting any of them.
owari da...i started late but its one of the guilty pleasure of all other gacha games had. ity feels so godo to spam shit ton of damage and seeing numbers pop up
So with the game shutting down, what are some other gachas that can fill the turn-based RPG, F2P friendly niche? I've seen some praise for Another Eden. I've heard some mixed stuff about Star Rail. Anything else I should look into?
Dont hurt yourself anon.
Another Eden has shit rates, Octopath Traveler has shit rates even if its a good "game" (dropped it today because of OO EoS), and Star Rail makes you read ALL the story to be able to participate in events, and as a day 1 player who logins everyday and wastes stamina, I'm still 3 patches behind in story and can't do any new event since I'm not up to date in story. I've been playing gachas since 2014 and there is not a single gacha I can recommend that is safe from EoS (RomaSaga GL is another possible sudden EoS, and its the only english good one that I could recommend).
If you like games go for them, maybe you have a big backlog and now its the time to get into it and start playing games that maybe you were missing and could be your new favourite game, who knows.
>star rail
you like anime style this is it. freebies currecny is on stingy side but you can clear the game F2P provide you grind enough >another eden
they dont give you any free currency aside from daily. but you can play the game like a true stand alone rpg. its just that with OP characters you are able to clear everything faster
try Romancing saga its pretty generous on freemiuns. or FFBE but knowing squareenix i think it might be on the next chopping block. also do try Reverse 1999 but it resembles FGO
Star Rail is a joke compared to OO. There's 2 buttons. The rates are pic related; you have practically a 0% chance to pull anything until you hit soft pity, and the advertised rates factor these tapered rates in. It's an atrocious business practice, and they also force you to listen to their story, which is not very good
Another Eden is okay, but I still don't think I'd recommend it. Try them if you want, of course, but I do not endorse either one. I'm gonna ride OO to EoS, and then I think I might be done with gacha, unless something comes out in the future that looks really good. I hope not, because I'd rather be done with gacha. Buriedbornes is probably the only game I'll ever have on my phone. There is a Buriedbornes 2 coming out sometime in the next few months. I don't know anything about it, but the first one is a fun little game, but it's not really a gacha, just a free mobile game (with Steam client now)
>Buriedbornes is probably the only game I'll ever have on my phone. There is a Buriedbornes 2 coming out sometime in the next few months. I don't know anything about it, but the first one is a fun little game, but it's not really a gacha, just a free mobile game (with Steam client now)
Never heard of this until reading this post, googled it, looks cool.
The only one I could possibly recommend that fits the bill is Romancing SaGa Re;univerSe, which has been my #1 mobage since global launched. I've tried almost all SE mobage and a lot of other ones from other companies, yes I have a problem.
Coincidentally, global's 3.5Y anniversary celebrations and a massive overhaul of the game to consolidate things and make things simpler/better for everyone (especially new players) is starting on Dec 1, the big update maintenance starts tonight. Head over to the thread for it on /vmg/ if you want more info.
It's pretty generous and global's one of the rare cases where it's better than JP like OO is (was) due to QoL and global exclusive buffs to almost everyone released. Some characters were even given mechanics that don't even exist in JP afaik.
The hard content is pretty fun and challenging and they don't gate notable rewards behind it so it's mostly there for people who wanna have fun tryharding. That said, if you want to take it on, expect lots and lots of autofarming. As in, it killed my last phone's battery and now I macro the grind on PC.
EoS ? I just reinstalled the game and I'd started playing it not long ago. I was just 3 chapters in but could feel the potential of the battle system for harder battles.
What the frick, I thought the game was one of SE's most popular gachas and that the player count was particularly good.
How would an offline version work? They did that for Dark Road but I tried it and it's pretty barebone and incredibly grindy to progress story, so much so that I dropped it.
Is this the end for Dissidia as a series with how much criticism NT received as well?
Unfortunately no, OO is Square's lowest performing gacha. JP lost a ton of whales with the paid gem cap debacle and GL has basically been carrying the game since. It was only a matter of time before the game EOS'd, I just didn't think it would be this soon, and I thought they'd at least get the rest of the content out to GL.
We'll see if it's the end of the franchise on January 31st when the final chapter releases. Either they'll use it to set up for a future Dissidia game, or they'll straight end the Dissidia storyline.
I really thought they'd get us caught up and then announce EoS simultaneously. Kind of feels like a kick in the stomach to just stop where GL where they did.
https://arch.b4k.co/vmg/thread/1215206/#1215415
I was correct
Just one new things even since >JP BE added NV+ awakening for some units (actually quite trivial, you just clear an easy new dungeon that gives a blue pearl upgrade material) and a way to spend excess NV shards from old units to upgrade them (the units are real old so the upgrades are far from making them meta) >Ever Crisis released with big profits...and already lost much of it in less than 3 months, game way too grindy with forced coop and some players are already having difficulty filling the coop rooms.
I'll have to stand corrected on the offline OO part. FF16 and sequel are still up in the air though.
Anyway likely RK next, they may want to be nice and finish the new magicite fights for the still missing elements before EoS. I'm interested how much their golden child FF7 lasts with EC after what happened with First Soldier
I'll keep my eyes peeled for a new game. I do like the Final Fantasy characters and settings. I can't get into WotV because the FF characters are basically just paper dolls who don't take party in the story. Same thing with BE. Ever Crisis could be cool, but being limited to FF7 kind of kills it for me, especially with the super slow rate that they're rolling out characters (likely because they're limited to such an incredibly small cast).
Well shit. The only Gacha I played daily since release JP. Accomplished basically everything for free. And that was the bane. They weren’t greedy enough. Hurts knowing it’s just going to become inaccessible.
For someone that never had any real interest in FF, like I didnt have a list of characters that I love, nor really any fond memories, didn't grow up with the series since I had even less interest back than, it actually kinda hurts to see the game go. I enjoyed it's gameplay and also liked to see characters interact or watch the story play, even if I had no background context. Something about the game was just enough to keep me playing and interested, unlike most others. Welp, rest in peace, 6 years is an ok enough, you'll be missed.
How many of you will roll over and play the next gatcha shit, just to have the door closed on your dick again and again?
Take the pledge today to never play another gacha game. Ignore the shills, the horny, and all the obsessive posting of its fans. Think of all the time you'd have to do things that matter, like pursuing knowledge or a hobby that's fulfilling. Don't sink hours of your youth into a pit that will leave you with nothing. All Games-as-a-Service will betray you.
Every game eventually has an ending. The difference between something like OO and something like FF8 is that OO had years and years worth of content to play. I'm sure you put way, way more time into OO than you do into any single FF game. Both of them ended, just one of them was a much longer journey.
Daily logins, daily chores, checklist gameplay, grind the event before it expires, content drip, $40 skins, wow what a journey. I think you mistake grind-padding for content worth playing.
I question if you've even played a non-mobile FF game before, because this game has far less meaningful content than any mainline FF. Regardless, any non-service game you can sit down and play at any time you want. You can spend hours in any game and still have your character, etc. so don't pretend to have a point.
Your only argument is that "you own the game, not like this game". Unless a game has replayability like a branching storyline, who in their right minds goes back to replay a game after fully beating it? Even 5 years, 10 years later, you won't get that experience again and you'll get bored halfway in because your doing the same thing over again while also being spoiled of every twist and turn.
Also an RPG not being padded out with grinding and useless sidequests for hours? Lmao have YOU played a mainline FF? You could be a total normies and tell me you've only played FF7R, and you'd still be lying lol. Don't bother yourself really, people enjoyed a thing and your confounded by it just cuz, you're on your own.
>Take the pledge today to never play another gacha game.
I don't know if I'm taking the "pledge" to never play gacha again, but I do hope that nothing out there ever catches my eye. Opera Omnia was my first gacha game. For years I refused to download OO because it was a gacha game. Then eventually I got bored and open enough to download it, and it turned out to be actually fricking good, holy shit.
That was the worst thing that could have happened though, because since OO was good, I started trying out other gachas, thinking that other gachas might also be good. They're not. OO is the only good gacha game. OO opened the door for me to a bleak world of darkness, but because OO was good it gave me hope that there might be another gem out there as shiny as OO, but there isn't. I've tried dozens of gachas trying to chase the OO high, and it just doesn't exist outside of OO
I don't might the games as a service thing, since I don't really replay games very often anyway. To me, most games already "die" after I finish them for the first time. As much as I might wish that OO wasn't going to EoS, I'm not disappointed in the same way that you are that it has reached that point. I'm more disappointed that OO gave me hope that other gacha games might be good, when OO was the only good one out of all of them. Lemme tell you, if OO was your first gacha game, it is nearly fricking impossible to be able to enjoy any other gacha out there, which I suppose is a good thing, but still it's a weird dystopia
I'm pretty lucky there. I did the same thing, but my thoughts were, "Opera Omnia, really fun. Maybe I'll check out Fate/Grand Order too." And FGO is so fricking terrible that it put me off trying any other ones.
Got the news from my yt feed this morning and had to stop in to pay my respects. Haven’t played in about a year but if you kept me on your friends list, thanks, I was thinking of eventually coming back but that’s what happens when you wait too long. Farewell OO, you were an alright game sometimes
Welp, that was some news to wake up to...
Frankly, I (and many others I imagine) could see this coming for quite a while, but I was honestly hoping the game would last until at least mid-2024, if nothing else, so we could catch up to JP in terms of current character reworks like Rydia, Eiko, Garland, etc., but as it is those characters, and many others, will forever remain unable to match the current powerlevel (which makes the fact that the last event we will get is a fricking huge DtD feel a bit like a slap in the face), sure everyone has FE50 now, but that isn't gonna be enough for many characters.
Honestly, just sucks that GL will get shafted out of so many reworks and new characters due to the timing of this, but well, GL servers tend to get shafted on most gacha games so it was to be expected I guess.
I will say though, the fact that the only XIV characters to receive a Shinryu rework were the ones that are dead in their OG game feels even more ironic in retrospect same with two of the last few new characters released in JP being VII ones.
Fricking hell.
GL Day 1 player here, this really sucks.
Only bought the moogle pass like once or twice, so no real loss for me. But still it's the only gacha I've been playing over the years, this and Dokkan.
All gachashit has the same fate, last time this happened to me was Tales of Link.
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. A shame we'll never see some characters, the Rikku dream is now dead.
Maybe they'll release a new gacha that isn't FF7.
Checked and nope, nothing.
Because of this, I'm gonna spend my BT tokens that I wanted to spend on Faris on my little DaVinci. Yes, I know she's the worst character the game ever had gameplay-wise but no, I don't care.
They should make everything cost 1 gold in all the shops, give everyone enough crystals to max out all crystals, and should have just gave unlimited pulls on those banners they just tossed out.
For someone like me who was always broke, that'd be good. But there are people that still had over two million gems, so giving them a bit of an advantage right at the end is a nice compromise. It isn't a complete "frick you" to hoarders like EoS usually is.
Dunno if anyone cares about those reading missions, but it looks like what you need to do to clear them is use the character who says the line in a mission. I just used Setzer in one of those crystal farming quests and it triggered this one. One of the others was Warrior of Light and I'm pretty sure one is Sazh. I think the other two are Seifer and Serah, but I'm not sure.
Can confirm it's WoL, Setzer, Sazh and it's actually not Serah and Seifer, it's Snow and Laguna. Had to comb through Act 1's entire script on the wiki to find that line from Laguna.
So to reiterate, put WoL, Setzer, Sazh, Snow and Laguna on a team and run any quest to complete these weekly story reading quests.
Guess I'll go do the crystal color mission for the latest Spiritus; that was the only bit of content I'd yet to finish. Wait, aren't we missing one Spiritus?
What's the deal with it? I wanna try clearing whatever this EoS D2D stuff they're releasing is.
There's no crystal color mission for the Spiritus. But yeah, we never got Odin.
The D2D will be 27 missions long, all with persistent lockouts. It's all reruns of other Shinryus, but the Braska's Final Aeon one, at least, got seriously beefed up. Not sure if the newer ones had the same treatment yet.
I went into the first thinking "Neon could solo this back in the day, let's do that" and I promptly got my shit stomped in because it was way more beefy than it was the last time I did it. Suffice to say, they're probably all bulked up to more modern HP pools and you'll have to take them seriously.
>There's no crystal color mission for the Spiritus.
Was talking about this one. >The D2D will be 27 missions long, all with persistent lockouts.
Where'd you read this? I just logged in and got hit with the notice, it says it features "21 SHINRYU difficulty or higher Astraeus, Nyx and Eos quests. The first 7 Astraeus quests are already unlocked, and Nyx and Eos quests will unock on Jan.1 and Feb. 1 UTC respectively."
So it looks like three sets of 7.
It says right underneath that paragraph that Perfect clears with character restrictions applies across all Astraeys, Nyx, and Eos quests.
I went into the first thinking "Neon could solo this back in the day, let's do that" and I promptly got my shit stomped in because it was way more beefy than it was the last time I did it. Suffice to say, they're probably all bulked up to more modern HP pools and you'll have to take them seriously.
Yeah, even the Shantotto one got beefed up despite being released post-Echo, and I think post multiplier retention. I'm way over the turn limit here and can't damage them anymore since I can't deal with their Force Effects. Yeah, I'm using Nine here, but goddamn. I can't use a full party against EVERY mission here- there aren't even 81 characters with Force Echoes and BT+ to do that with!
>It says right underneath that paragraph that Perfect clears with character restrictions applies across all Astraeys, Nyx, and Eos quests.
Sorry for not clarifying, I was talking about the "27 missions" part, since from everything I can see in the notices, there's only 21.
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Anonymous
Sorry, my bad. I knew it was 3 sets of 7, but I have no idea where I got the number 27 in my head. Must have fricked up my math without realuzing.
5 months ago
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No worries, I just had to check in case something I didn't know about said it was 27.
I did stage 6 with Penelo, Ciaran, and Gladiolus. I do not recommend doing that, it took 4 force times, exactly 55 turns, and the last hit was Gladio's counter.
Crystal rooms.Basically Ultima Weapons but they apply to every character of a certain crystal color. You also get a few useful passives that apply to all characters of that color, but you can only equip three at a time. Things like, "keep most of your BRV when doing a chase attack during a launch" or "take less damage but your turn rate is decreased." The missions you had to do to get points for it were a pain in the ass, but it was a fun addition.
Is the DtD VII, a Memoria Battle? It doesn't state the level and in the tips section it mentions something about switching parties, which we cannot do.
Yeah, I was wondering why its Force weakness was doing ranged damage with a debuff with Laguna being recommended. But if you assume it's really there to push Irvine, it makes sense.
Sooo how would we go about buying FRs? I understand that pity points are tripled and you can buy FR tokens using them, but is there an infinite source of gems to actually pull with? Are we just relying on the free daily multi to get pity points?
From what I seen, it does seem that way, the only source in gems right now seem to be the event stages available now, so if you didn't have too many gems saved (like me...) then you will have to rely om the free daily Multi.
Only had enough to do 8 multis. BTs are also as difficult to get since the daily raid didnt lower the price of the tokens, nor did they increase the amount of tokens, so its still 200 raid points for 1 single BT coin.
Kinda in the same park, only FRs I'm missing are ones I honestly don't care about (ironically most of them are from characters without FR boards).
BTs on the other hand... yeah...
I think I will be able to buy every BT that I am missing. It will be neat to be able to play like a whale for a few months with a completely maxed out roster, but I'd still rather have the BTs and FRs that were released in JP. It's seriously a steady stream of new BTs and reworks of some of my favorite characters, and I'll never get to use them. I don't really have the conviction to download JP and grind out resources there to play with them
Does JP even get Dare to Defy for EoS? As far as I know, they never got it before. What a weird hodgepodge if GL gets the events, but none of the new BTs/FRs, and JP gets the BTs/FRs, but none of the events
Gl got dare to defy and the abyss events but during covid jp did had rerun event and banners plus they have memorial fights....Frick!!!! I wanted my Redheaded boy so frickin bad... dog whimper.
>would loved to have seen full power (as of late C90 era):
Desch
Emp
WoL
Maria
Xande
Exdeath
Shadow
Selphie
Wakka
Prishe
Gabranth
Vanille
Alisae
Thancred
Prompto
King
Eight
Nine
Sice
Jegran
So, what's everyone's plan right now, I kinda wanna stick to the end, but there's not much I want to do, the DtD seems like it will be way too big of an annoyance with how many stages it has, so I'm not feeling too tempted to try it.
I'm going to math out how I can get every BT, because I think I have enough gems to do it. I'm going to complete every Dare to Defy all the way until the end. I thought that wouldn't be a lot of content, but it's 7 fights per month, which is technically more than we were already getting. I will go down with the ship, and I will do it with fully maxed out characters for the first time literally ever
I'm riding this boat until it sinks. I want to max out all of the characters I have purely because I want to see it through, and try all of the ones I wanted to use but never did. Plus, I do want to try this D2D. It's the final challenge, I might as well put in the effort.
I've been playing since day 1, so I guess I'll stick around until the end. I wanna try maxing out every character and clear as many stages as I can. But I probably won't login everyday now.
I think the costumes will open in the next co-op fight. They're going to roll out a new one in a month and then a third and final one a month after that. The last two shops will have costume tokens you can buy.
It’s incredible honestly. What keeps it going for people? The pixel art? Mind you, the game didn’t have those flashy CGI scenes in its first couple of years. Is being a Brave Frontier clone all it took?
It’s incredible honestly. What keeps it going for people? The pixel art? Mind you, the game didn’t have those flashy CGI scenes in its first couple of years. Is being a Brave Frontier clone all it took?
but fricking how, it's not fair bros
I kneel. I thought for sure that it would die within a year of WotV's release, but now it might outlive that.
>cant solo grind the event because the single player stages dont drop anything >coop where EVERY character is boosted
Ugh. Really just wanted to slap a macro on and leave the game running to max out my roster.
Is there anywhere to purchase skip tickets? I have ~30, so over the next few days, I'm just gonna hope that a 3x star + all my skip tickets is enough to buy everything I want
I keep all the abilities and passives from a green'd BT if i sell it, right? I was thinking i can just recycle all the ones i have green to get others i dont have, and then just use gems to buy cores to make all the UW's i need.
Lufenia. Shinryu doesnt seem that bad with strong characters, but if a moron joins the room who wants to use anyone, you'll pretty much have to leave and join a new one. Lufenia is always the safer bet.
Same here.
Was hoping I could ger at least one BT I'm missing (specially since I'm still missing like 30), but that kind of banners rarely drop the good stuff, so I wasn't surprised.
Was hoping I could get Arci's BT with the tickets I had left, no luck there either sadly.
I got a couple FRs I think, not that those mattered since I had them all already, and the only BT I got was an Ultimecia dupe. Ulti doesn't even get her FR on GL
I don't know if this helps at all, but you can at least plan ahead. If the first "???" is Memorial fight 1, then I assume the others will also be Memorial fights. The remaining Memorial fights are Safer Sephiroth, The Emperor, Kefka, and Shinryu. I wonder who they'll pick. If it was up to Josh, he's probably make one of them be Kefka. I don't really like the Shinryu fight, but I feel like it would be fitting to kill Shinryu (again) as the last thing we do in DFFOO. I'm still kinda bummed that we don't get Re-Shinryu or any of the new BTs and FRs
Interesting. Never got to really find out what those Memorial fights were all about, what a shame. This EoS is coming with a lot of regrets. Speaking of, >I'm still kinda bummed that we don't get Re-Shinryu or any of the new BTs and FRs
Me too, there were a good number I really wanted like Faris, Rufus, Sabin and Agrias.
Just paid like 15k gems to max one of each UW and it felt like such a hollow accomplishment.
Shinryu, this fight is fricking braindead and the one attempt I saw of people trying to sabotage didn't work cause they're just that weak
Who are some good characters to bring? It's Kelger's fight so I'm guessing off-turn is the way to go.
You don't even really need off, just have something to neuter them before they do their attack. I usually just bring Raijin and pop it right at the start, and since you start with 50% bar and everyone participating should be FE50, they won't get more than 2 attacks. Could do anything with HP Silence, Brv Freeze, Cor, you name it.
>I'm still kinda bummed that we don't get Re-Shinryu or any of the new BTs and FRs
Personally, I'm not too bothered from missing out on Re-Shinryu, honestly didn't care about that, I am, however, bummed about not getting the Memorial Battles, Spiritus Odin and all the new BTs and FRs, was hoping we would get at least the ones for currently existing characters, bit alas, that doesn't seem likely (though thinking about it and knowing my luck, I still wouldn't have been able of obtaining them...).
Don't really have time for an MMO, so a casual gacha where you can do co-ops while focusing on other stuff was best.
How casual we talking? And is JP only a big deal? I play Tales of the Rays, which similar to this, is a weapon gacha with a big roster of characters you get from the story. Similar event structure of collectathon events or raid boss events where everyone does damage to the bigger HP bar. The Main Story mode is wrapped up, but a new story game mode was added that basically continues the story with a new cast, and also gives you recaps of different Tales games. Characters dont have any skill tree/summon boards, you just level them and their weapons. No real power creep, new weapons usually give units more options or make them more accessible/good to play as. No PVP whatsoever. The game has been going on for almost 6 years
However, the coop is a game mode that gets turned on and off, usually playable for afew days once every 2ish weeks, and you just fight afew waves of enemies while beating the timer with 3 other players. You collect little emote badges and can even trade them with others if your a collectionist. You can set up private rooms too.
Yeah, a game that isn't in English won't work.
>not ringing bells with /ffg/
I used to ring bells with /ffg/ all the time, but eventually people stopped joining even when I'd announce.
How casual we talking? And is JP only a big deal? I play Tales of the Rays, which similar to this, is a weapon gacha with a big roster of characters you get from the story. Similar event structure of collectathon events or raid boss events where everyone does damage to the bigger HP bar. The Main Story mode is wrapped up, but a new story game mode was added that basically continues the story with a new cast, and also gives you recaps of different Tales games. Characters dont have any skill tree/summon boards, you just level them and their weapons. No real power creep, new weapons usually give units more options or make them more accessible/good to play as. No PVP whatsoever. The game has been going on for almost 6 years
However, the coop is a game mode that gets turned on and off, usually playable for afew days once every 2ish weeks, and you just fight afew waves of enemies while beating the timer with 3 other players. You collect little emote badges and can even trade them with others if your a collectionist. You can set up private rooms too.
What about sparkles? Are crystal quests infinitely grindable now? Because if so, that's a huge grind I'm not sure I'm ready for, but I do want that final crystal ability, or at least the ability to use more than the first one. It'd be more Shinryu fights than the entire last year crammed into a couple months, you'd need to do multiple level 3 ones every day for over a month if you're f2p.
Same. It's hitting me harder than it did yesterday for some reason. I'm pissed global gets shafted this much, missing out on so much, especially all the characters that got FRs, BTs, echoes and reworks that'll be trapped as trash for the final months.
>What about sparkles?
The Crystal Quest are still weekly but they give a minimun of 7500 sparkles and a maximun of 9000, so grinding them is MUCH faster.
No. Still once a week. But you can get 7500 instead of 7000. The game will be up for 13 weeks. So that'll be 97,500 more points, or enough to max out 5 Crystal Rooms. It won't surprise me if they have crystal points in one of the two up-coming co-op shops.
Oh wow, that is huge. Thanks bros, looks like I'll be able to finish the crystal rooms and not have to bust my hump grinding like a madman.
No. Still once a week. But you can get 7500 instead of 7000. The game will be up for 13 weeks. So that'll be 97,500 more points, or enough to max out 5 Crystal Rooms. It won't surprise me if they have crystal points in one of the two up-coming co-op shops.
>Still once a week. But you can get 7500 instead of 7000. The game will be up for 13 weeks. So that'll be 97,500 more points, or enough to max out 5 Crystal Rooms
There are also the 1k sparkles given through login rewards once every 8 days, so it's probably a very even and measured total maxing out of all 6, from zero
Dunno why I thought those new seven banners had a free multi everyday.
No way I'm getting every BT and FR I'm missing until the end with just the big banner.
Same, even jusy getting the ones I'm really interested in will be impossible for me, at most I will be able to get 4~5 but that's about it (if only my luck had been better this past few months...).
I'm aware of that but, sadly, I just don't have enough gems to get enough G Tokens to get enough BT Tokens as to get even half of the BTs I really want (EOS really just had to come right after I had to go full pity for Cissnei).
What about sparkles? Are crystal quests infinitely grindable now? Because if so, that's a huge grind I'm not sure I'm ready for, but I do want that final crystal ability, or at least the ability to use more than the first one. It'd be more Shinryu fights than the entire last year crammed into a couple months, you'd need to do multiple level 3 ones every day for over a month if you're f2p.
Same. It's hitting me harder than it did yesterday for some reason. I'm pissed global gets shafted this much, missing out on so much, especially all the characters that got FRs, BTs, echoes and reworks that'll be trapped as trash for the final months.
>I'm pissed global gets shafted this much, missing out on so much, especially all the characters that got FRs, BTs, echoes and reworks that'll be trapped as trash for the final months.
Honestly, I'm torn on that front, on one hand I'm mad that we missed out on so many Character updates and new Characters, not to mention events like Spiritus Odin and Memorial Battles, and the fact that one of the last events we will get is a huge DtD feels like a slap in the face (even more so considering some of the stages so far are of characters that received updates in JP but not in GL like Minwu and Irvine).
But on the other, OO treated it's GL server much better than what I have seen and heard other gachas do with theirs, so I can't really feel too angry about this.
>the fact that one of the last events we will get is a huge DtD feels like a slap in the face
In my opinion Dare to Defy was literally the only fun thing about Shinryu. That, and of course the one Crevasse that we got, but I always felt like Crevasse was a treat that was too good and that Dare to Defy was more in line with what were "deserved". I like that we're getting a huge, 3 part Dare to Defy, and I like that we'll be able to more or less have free reign in that we can have any character maxed out that we want
It would be a 10/10 EoS, if not for the fact that there are a slew of (very good) BTs and FRs that we will never get. If it wasn't for foresight, we wouldn't know they existed, but that's the thing that feels like the slap in the face to me
Dare to Defy was complete garbage and you only like it because you jumped in late in the game from wotv and had no other experiences with the vastly better lockouts in the game. It was such a low effort unbalanced cashgrab compared to anything else that we all saw the writing on the wall as soon as it was announced.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Dare to Defy was complete garbage and you only like it because you jumped in late in the game from wotv and had no other experiences with the vastly better lockouts in the game
lol what is this projection? I only started WotV after OO, and I never liked WotV. You are expressing /ffg/ levels of schizophrenia right now. And you also cannot read. I said that Dare to Defy was the only fun thing about Shinryu, not necessarily that it was good. Please learn to read, and please learn to be significantly less schizophrenic
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I said that Dare to Defy was the only fun thing about Shinryu
Which is wrong because Six Warrior was the only fun thing about Shinryu.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Echoes kind of ruined it. Iris REALLY ruined it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
What, does Iris' BT effect stay in play even when you switch her out?
5 months ago
Anonymous
No, but you could gauge charge with her, use Revolution and then her BT, and swap her out. Then you swap her in before the enemies got a turn to zero out their stats for basically the entire fight. And it gave you a guaranteed way of making sure her EX went off right after Force Time ended. Iris was an "I win" button for Six Man fights. Her only downside in regular battles is her low/inconsistent damage, but being able to tag her out meant you never had to deal with her weaknesses.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Sure, you can think that. I have no problem with your opinions as long as they aren't schizophrenic, just as long as you have no problem with my opinions. I would have preferred Crevasse, but as I've already said I always felt like Crevasse was a treat that already felt like a weird sort of fluke to get (and I think Dare to Defy is more in the spirit of Shinryu than Crevasse)
Six-Warrior was alright, but I wasn't impressed by any of them. As a challenge, I would only use 3 of the 6 party members, and I still did not enjoy the fights very much. The first 4 of them did nothing, the Steam/Dog fight also did nothing, the FFIV spheres were easily countered by Rydia and/or Balthier (yay Rydia), the Yuffie fight felt like an annoying Yuffie check, and the bugs were beaten easily by Kelger. I actually think I preferred the Prelude Six-Warrior fight to any of the real fights. I will say though that the Six-Warriors were a nice break from the normal game because I could carry the ticket mission character without having to use them, while still using a full team that I actually did want to use. I was able to discover a team I really liked (Minwu/Sice/Celes) due to this, but then again that's also why I liked Dare to Defy; it made me actually look at my roster, and it did not force me to use ticket mission characters
Actually, frick the ticket mission. I think they implemented it originally around Dorgann's banner? So that's a year of being forced to use a character that I probably don't want to use. That killed a lot of my enjoyment, too, and to me that's when the fights really started becoming boxes you checked instead of things you enjoyed
5 months ago
Anonymous
>it made me actually look at my roster
Everyone who says this posted the same clears over and over.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Alright, schizo, whatever you say. Clearly you're not talking to me, you're talking to some boogeyman you've created. It saddens me that you could not leave your schizophrenia on /ffg/, but soon I will never need to interact with you again, nor you with your OO boogeymen
5 months ago
Anonymous
Everyone who says this is mad they "had to pull for m*le characters."
5 months ago
Anonymous
Alright, schizo, whatever you say. Clearly you're not talking to me, you're talking to some boogeyman you've created. It saddens me that you could not leave your schizophrenia on /ffg/, but soon I will never need to interact with you again, nor you with your OO boogeymen
>ratposter OBSESSED with """""schizophrenia"""""
5 months ago
Anonymous
>schizo tripling down on his schizophrenia
I'm not /ffg/'s Freyagay, if that's what your schizophrenia is insinuating. I just used Freya after she got her LD in late Luf+ because her kit was really good. I really liked Freya, Arciela, and Selphie and I used them a lot because I had more fun using LD only units than BT units. Please go back to /ffg/. You don't belong here
I said it before, but it makes sense to give hoarders some reward for having a bunch of gems instead of just outright giving them the finger. That said, I do hope that the next two co-op shops have gems or G Tokens in them. There's still a couple BTs I want to play around with before EoS.
Yeah, what the frick is the point in having a gacha when no one can spend on the game anymore?
They should've just sent a copy of each BT/FR in the game to everyone's present box. Power tokens cover the 15/35 cp weapons and put EX/LD tokens in the co-op shop.
I said it before, but it makes sense to give hoarders some reward for having a bunch of gems instead of just outright giving them the finger. That said, I do hope that the next two co-op shops have gems or G Tokens in them. There's still a couple BTs I want to play around with before EoS.
>I said it before, but it makes sense to give hoarders some reward for having a bunch of gems instead of just outright giving them the finger.
They could've put all the co-op shop stuff in a gem exchange (including EX/LD tokens if they went with my plan), allowing hoarders to skip the tremendous unlimited grind of the final co-op shop and max out the cast asap for no effort. That could be the reward. Just like in normal gachas, where you either wait/grind or spend to get what you want instantly.
Yeah, one last big D2D with a ton of lockouts is the most appropriate send-off we could realistically ask for. Right now the stages are really overturned, but knowing we're expected to have maxed out crystal rooms by the end alleviates that (remember that one of the abilities is just a flat 20% off the enemy's health). Hopefully it'll get even easier to just grab whatever characters we need by the end. For now I'm just grinding the co-op for Force Stones to get all my Echo characters up to FE50 to get ready for it.
How many characters in the game have echoes/FR boards? Talking about global. Starting to plan my D2D teams and wondered if there's enough for 21 teams or if I'll be dragging some of the weaker characters along.
>How many characters in the game have echoes/FR boards?
https://dissidiacompendium.com/characters?filter=true&board5=true
Apparently 81, so it's "enough" (21*3 = 63). However, there are also a handful of characters without FR boards who could function as a decent main FR in conjunction with 2 Echo characters
Cool, thanks! I might try using the "suggested" character (aka Neon for the first one for example), another echo character and try to drag through a favourite who never got their FR board in global for the ones that aren't ??? difficulty but if that's too hard, it's nice to know I can go full echo.
>failed the hp req on the first D2D fight when the boss was at 1%
Wew, Shinryu's gonna make me mad until the very end. They jacked these ogres up like crazy.
Wew, and there we go. 1 down, 20 to go. Was nice to use all faves for a change. Glad to finally have a UW whip for Seven, and let's all pour one out for my main man Cyan. I had him maxed, FE50 and all, before the final update, but he never got that FR/BT I wanted so badly.
considering they went out of their way to fix the BT token overflow, I have a mind to think the future co-op rooms might change this too, I could be wrong but they also didn't *have* to do that either
>They really said frick you if you werent saving for EOS of all things
If you weren't "saving for EoS" (i.e. saving for the slew of new BTs that GL had the foresight to know about), it's probably presumed that you already rolled for everything that you wanted. I still think it's a very good EoS. You can grind out literally everything that isn't gems or tickets, you can buy a full 5/5 UWs for like 10k, and we even have stages to use them on. The only bad thing in my eyes about it is that we don't get the new BTs that people were saving for, and instead we are "forced" to use it on BTs that already exist
A glimmer of hope, though: there is still a 50+1 anniversary pull, and there is a slight chance it might be a daily thing, since it's showing as going for the entire month of February
Who did you guys use for the second D2D stage/Braska's Final Aeon? I'll likely slot Braska but I don't have his BT (everything else is maxed). I might've used Auron back when it released, but I'm not sure how he'll deal with the threshold ST petrifies. Can Cater solo?
Cater can't solo, at least in theory. The pagodas have a guaranteed hit BRV+HP if they've been alive for a few turns, and you'll be seeing it with how much HP they have. Maybe if you use Gladio call and rush FR somehow it'll work, but it didn't seem realistic to me. I used Braska, Yuna, and Auron.
Braska's pretty worthless outside of gauge charging without his BT, and Yuna can handle that. This fight shows how weird Shinryu was at the start- their Force Time is nothing to worry about and you don't need a character like Braska just to deal with it. It's the rest of their attacks that are tough. It's up to you if you'd rather take extra damage or extra mitigation. If Auron gets petrified and the enemies get a bunch of turns before Yuna can cleanse him, that could end your run. Having a lot of damage could help speed through with just a Lenna call to block the petrify though.
You could also bring Ignis if you aren't worried about using him too early.
Oh, also remember that Yuna's Force Time can block ailments. I didn't use it since Braska and my BT-less Auron can't hit the conditions, but if you have someone who can, that's a good option.
>This fight shows how weird Shinryu was at the start- their Force Time is nothing to worry about
Was the enemy Force Time ever anything to worry about, though? Off the top of my head, the only Force Times that did anything at all were Bhunivelze (dead if you use melee, not specifically Force Time effect?) and the Odin horse (dead if you give him a turn, not specifically a Force Time effect?). Everything else either did nothing at all, or the Force Time attack was the one single HP attack the boss had that did no damage anyway, or later on it was just healing back the damage you dealt, which was annoying but was never an issue; the closest that it ever came to being an issue was the Reks bugs due to lowish turn count. And you could always beat the enemy to Force Time even without a gauge charger by launching/building summon gauge and spamming S1.
Were there any other fights where the Force Time actually did something?
There are plenty of fights where the enemy Force Time gives them some absurd reductions or post-damage healing which makes it a pain in the ass to deal with them if you can't beat them to it or cancel it out. Not a fight ender, just something you would usually build a team around to avoid putting up with. I'm just saying you don't need to plan around it at all with Braska's Final Aeon.
5 months ago
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>I'm just saying you don't need to plan around it at all with Braska's Final Aeon.
Yeah, and I'm saying that I think 90% of all Shinryu fights were like that. Maybe even like 95% or 99%. I don't remember being scared of any Force Times other than the ones I mentioned, but the things I mentioned might not have even been specifically Force Time mechanics, I don't remember exactly. The other fights that actually did something, like Hell House or Shiva Spiritus I remember were not Force Time related.
Oh, also remember that Yuna's Force Time can block ailments. I didn't use it since Braska and my BT-less Auron can't hit the conditions, but if you have someone who can, that's a good option.
Hmm, was thinking of saving Ignis for later. I'd rather use him somewhere he can rock out in his damage-dealing stance than his debuff immunity stance.
Maybe I'll try using Yuna's force time and bringing a Lenna call just in case. Looks like Yuna's FR calls for transformed brv/hp attacks. Auron works great with that with his BT's transformed hp attack. Maybe I'll try slotting in Machina to go with it, thanks.
Someone at Square really thought Dissidia would be their ticket to the big e-sports scene so as long as they think of it like that I think the series is dead and buried. Maybe they'll test the waters with a lazy Duodecim remaster at some point and then complain it didn't sell 10 million copies.
Yeah, a musou game always seemed like a no-brainer. You've even got the manakins as the random enemy horde.
sorry boomers, musou is a dead genre. fate just released a musou game and it sold like shit. If that IP can't carry a musou game, dissidia definitely can't
Isn't Granblue also about to release what appears to be a Musou/Monster Hunter hybrid? I never understood the appeal of them anyway. I played one of the Dynasty Warriors set up at Walmart one time for like 30 minutes while my parents got groceries, and I think that might be the most empty gaming experience I've ever had
>Fate musou >with no characters people want
That was all on them.
Isn't Granblue also about to release what appears to be a Musou/Monster Hunter hybrid? I never understood the appeal of them anyway. I played one of the Dynasty Warriors set up at Walmart one time for like 30 minutes while my parents got groceries, and I think that might be the most empty gaming experience I've ever had
Yeah, we got the notice late Tuesday night. We were rapidly catching up to JP for the past few months, and we assumed there was going to be a server merger, but instead the GL devs were just trying to rush out as much content as they could before getting the "pencils down" order, because the game will still be running until February but we aren't getting any new characters or weapons.
Right. Arciela FR is the last new banner. Right now we just have around five banners rerunning every character in the game, broken up into different series, and one banner with everything on it that gives you a free 11 pull every day. The series banners need games, but you get 60 G Tokens per 11 pull, the G Tokens count across all banners, and you can exchange them for BT, FR, and LD Tokens. We're getting three co-ops with unlimited resources like BT nuggets and Force Stones for trade- one new one per month. And finally, there's one last big Dare to Defy that'll have a total of 21 stages in it. Almost forgot, but every character also got FE50 as well.
There's nothing new to see, but while the servers are still up the game will be a playground for being able to max out and use any characters you might have missed along the way.
I hope not, because I'd definitely try it out, and I really just want to be done with gacha until a DFFOO clone with better graphics gets released.
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It seems that way. They gave everyone FE50, but they did not even give characters like Minwu or Penelo their reworks, which would be stupid easy to implement, so they're probably not translating and porting the new animations for the FRs and BTs either. I think they should copy and paste it and leave it in Japanese if nothing else, but I doubt it's happening.
>tfw waiting on Keiss and Gladio
EoS is fine, but this cucking is not.
I hope not, because I'd definitely try it out, and I really just want to be done with gacha until a DFFOO clone with better graphics gets released.
Wait, nothing else from the JP side of things is getting in global from here on out?
It seems that way. They gave everyone FE50, but they did not even give characters like Minwu or Penelo their reworks, which would be stupid easy to implement, so they're probably not translating and porting the new animations for the FRs and BTs either. I think they should copy and paste it and leave it in Japanese if nothing else, but I doubt it's happening.
Just maxed out every weapon I have and all training boards and it's crazy how I'm just missing 6 FRs being F2P.
No idea if I can get all 6 with G Tokens.
On the other hand, I'm missing around 40 BTs.
Damn, that hurts. Loved using him back in the day, he could've really used that upgrade.
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[...] >those turn counts (come on instant rate free turn moves aren't infinite) >that damage
What's the secret to big dick damage?
Max everything, 5/5 UWs, stacking BT effects, launching every turn during BT phase, debuffing the enemy with multiple "hp damage taken increased" debuffs, preferably using an FR that gives the party hp damage up and damage limit up as your main force time. Smacking the boss with summon attacks (preferably Brothers) on 999% force time and even shooting them with crystal abilities if you can. >(come on instant rate free turn moves aren't infinite)
*laughs in Ydaroth/Ultiquina/Zell cheese*
Finally got up the gumption to face BFA. Was much easier than I thought, thanks again to the anon who was giving me advice here. Only saw one Jecht Beam, which was good since my Lenna call wore off on the person he was targeting right after. Next up is...Shantotto's fight? Should be easy if I keep her paralyzed iirc. Three character fight, does this mean I can finally bust out my maxed WoFF twins?
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An easier formatting of JP exclusives might be:
>Three character fight, does this mean I can finally bust out my maxed WoFF twins?
Not sure if you can since that one I think is Elemental Lockout (or was it absorb? I know it has some elemental restriction but don't remember how severe), so the Twins may have some issues.
Glad to see you got through it. Admittedly that's the last stage I did since I decided to grind out Force Stones and wait for more Crystal Points first. But they absorb all elemental damage other than wind, dark, and holy (and resist non-elemental by 90%) so the twins unfortunately won't work here. They've also got really nasty Force Effects that kill your BRV gains, so I'm planning on letting them enter Force Time and then cancel it out. Luckily all you need is to do melee damage while at 100% or more of your BRV, or a dark element FR (not enchanted, so only Shantotto, Decil, Golbez, and Sice work AFAIK). There are three thresholds where the main Shantotto gets a red aura and if her turn comes around she'll instantly kill you Lufenia-style unless you paralyze her.
I'll probably start working my way through these stages soon. Not quite sure who I'll bring, but I've got Shantotto fully built so I may as well build around her. Thinking Totto, Golbez, and... Iroha maybe?
Damn, why they gotta dunk on my twins til the very end? Three boss fights are rare enough. >Thinking Totto, Golbez, and... Iroha maybe?
Sounds solid. Unfortunately, I never got BTs for Golbez or Iroha so I'll likely find somebody different.
Glad to see you got through it. Admittedly that's the last stage I did since I decided to grind out Force Stones and wait for more Crystal Points first. But they absorb all elemental damage other than wind, dark, and holy (and resist non-elemental by 90%) so the twins unfortunately won't work here. They've also got really nasty Force Effects that kill your BRV gains, so I'm planning on letting them enter Force Time and then cancel it out. Luckily all you need is to do melee damage while at 100% or more of your BRV, or a dark element FR (not enchanted, so only Shantotto, Decil, Golbez, and Sice work AFAIK). There are three thresholds where the main Shantotto gets a red aura and if her turn comes around she'll instantly kill you Lufenia-style unless you paralyze her.
I'll probably start working my way through these stages soon. Not quite sure who I'll bring, but I've got Shantotto fully built so I may as well build around her. Thinking Totto, Golbez, and... Iroha maybe?
I decided to use the featured FRs for each battle (or whatever units the Tips section suggests), that way I'll end up using characters I hardly touched before.
Finally got something from the EoS free draws. Today's multi gave me Noel's FR (already MLB) and Vincent's FR (already had it, but not MLB). Free single on the II/VII banner gave me Minwu's FR (already MLB, RIP my bro's echo).
Shelke, Cid Highwind, King,Trey, Cinque, Emperor, Kefka (would they count?), Firion, Guy (well, his rework was actually solid at least), Krile (she received a FR at least), Galuf, Prompto (they did him and Cid so fricking dirty fricks' sake) and Freya.
Seifer's the big one for me. He's consistently great in the story, but as far as gameplay goes he was good for about two months after getting his LD and that was it. I've said it before, but I thought for sure he'd be one of the first characters to get a BT once they lifted the restrictions on who can get them, but it never happened.
Lyse is a character I have no attachment to, but I like her design and it's always been baffling to me that she's NEVER been good. Outside of her debut, she's been consistently worse than Yda. Would have been nice if she could have a moment to shine somewhere.
>Lyse is a character I have no attachment to, but I like her design and it's always been baffling to me that she's NEVER been good.
I used her in a few difficult Shinryus because her auras were really useful, so she was probably an echo and a generic BT away from being good. Of course Leonora has the same auras (including damage reduction and last stand) plus offturn conversion of brv gain into healing, Enna/Sherlotta uncapped attacks, gauge charging, and that's ignoring the situationally useless but still unique revive.
Shelke, Cid Highwind, King,Trey, Cinque, Emperor, Kefka (would they count?), Firion, Guy (well, his rework was actually solid at least), Krile (she received a FR at least), Galuf, Prompto (they did him and Cid so fricking dirty fricks' sake) and Freya.
>Krile (she received a FR at least)
Krile was the postergirl for someone that FR boards were intended to fix. Someone with a bad FR that would get a boost or minimally become usable as an echo to extend the chain a turn. Instead they just ignored her in favor of characters who were already good.
Yeah, some of those early FR users got shafted hard. Desch is another one, although his weird-ass FR could be funny to use in some situations.
Kam'lanaut was the weirdest Echo exclusion to me. He reran once or twice a couple months ago but without getting an Echo. And I get that he single-handedly fricked up the game balance, but by then the damage was done and getting an Echo with no rework wouldn't have made him especially good by that point anyway. It just seemed petty.
>Krile was the postergirl for someone that FR boards were intended to fix.
Agreed, she really got shafted in that regard, almost all the others early FRs got FR Boards to upgrade them and the ones that didn't are still much better than hers.
Kinda ironic that her, her grandpa and her grandpa's enemy/killer were the only FFV characters that didn't get anything for Shinryu (Krile may as well have gotten nothing with how bad her FR is).
Gau would have been a monster in Shinryu. Edge, Yang, Galuf, Sice, Seven, and Freya all would have been fantastic as well. Their specific playstyle was so good for so long that I have no idea why they didn't get anything. I think the reason they waited so long on Gladio is because he would have been too overpowered, and this made sense for a while, but then they gave us Rubicante and Kelger (and Astos), and then those "too powerful" reasons started to make less sense. On the other hand, I do understand why Shelke never got anything. I think Shelke could have been a 20-30 HP attack EX Lightning (as was suggested here by someone else) and it would have worked out fine, but Relm showed us just how fricking terrible turn warping is in Shinryu. And then Emperor after his BT was always a character that I thought was really cool, but we'll never know
Sazh is probably one of the most shafted characters in the whole game. The only time he was good was for a few months after he first got his cp35, and he was the last of the original characters to get his EX. His shtick was always buffs, but they never got reworked into anything but generic unframed trash that would just get pushed off, and his LD barely did anything for him.
>The only time he was good was for a few months after he first got his cp35
understatement of the century, Sazh during the cp35 era was the answer to basically any problem, a Sazh friend support meant the difference between a slog of a fight and a complete breeze
I was waiting for ages for the Prishe rework cause it felt like it could be possible only for it to never come. I'm still gonna get her BT before EoS and use her just because, the co-op being braindead means I can get away with whatever anyway.
Has anyone started going crazy with their gems to get some BTs? I also made use of those skip tickets and did 50 shinryuu skips and now I'm loaded with points. I can probably finally maxed out everyone's summon boards.
Yeah, I only had about 100k but I was able to get four BTs from the G Tokens I got, and just today got enough from the free draw to get one more. Thanks to the co-op shop, all of my BTs are green now too (other than Layle, RIP). It's been fun playing around with them and not having to worry about wasting my resources after all this time. It feels like turning on Cheat Engine after hitting postgame.
I rolled 900k gems (and all like 600 of my tickets), but I only got 6 BTs with it. Really underwhelming, but I guess that's statistically somewhat accurate (180*3% = ~5.40 BTs). It just feels weird when I had gotten so many "free" BTs and also did not often have to go to full pity for the things that I wanted. I kept 100k gems for miscellaneous whatever just in case. I'll spend them the last month probably. I have plenty of G tokens to get whatever BTs I want, but I really already rolled for everything that I actually wanted to use, so whatever I end up buying will probably just be for theme runs or something. I haven't used the tokens yet, but I'll probably just buy whichever thing I want to try out for one of these Dare to Defy stages.
I tried to but didn't get anything (unsurprising considering how shit my luck has been and how few gems I had), so all the new BTs I got were with BT tokens, good thing I had 71 tokens saved from before EOS was announced.
>I've bought one and I'm waiting to see what nonsense is going to be in the second wave.
see
I don't know if this helps at all, but you can at least plan ahead. If the first "???" is Memorial fight 1, then I assume the others will also be Memorial fights. The remaining Memorial fights are Safer Sephiroth, The Emperor, Kefka, and Shinryu. I wonder who they'll pick. If it was up to Josh, he's probably make one of them be Kefka. I don't really like the Shinryu fight, but I feel like it would be fitting to kill Shinryu (again) as the last thing we do in DFFOO. I'm still kinda bummed that we don't get Re-Shinryu or any of the new BTs and FRs
The ??? stages are Griever (Memorial 1), Safer Sephiroth (Memorial 2), and then Shinryu (DET 16 and a fitting end that we kill Shinryu as the last thing we do in DFFOO)
There's #3 down. If they're not gonna let me use my WoFF twins, then I'm gonna use my other fave who excels vs three foes: Strago. He gave all three Shantotto's a proper spanking, and I realized how awful it is using Ursula during force time with her turn warping and instant turns putting out weak damage (I don't have her BT, maybe that helps). Also made a second staff UW with the free cores we got from the login bonus today since I've been finding a need for a second staff lately (used 2 staff users in stage 2 as well).
Up next is...frick yeah, they want me to use Enna! Looks like the favourites get to keep getting used. Looks like the enemy force effects want you to use holy, dark, and lightning damage. I get holy and dark, but why lightning? Does anyone remember the other featured character on Enna's BT banner?
>I get holy and dark, but why lightning? Does anyone remember the other featured character on Enna's BT banner?
It was Noel BT/FR (Ice/Wind) with Enna BT/FR (Holy/Dark), but I believe the Lufenia+ LD that went along with that fight was Reno (Thunder)
>but I believe the Lufenia+ LD that went along with that fight was Reno (Thunder)
Ah, okay. Wonder if I can meme on this boss with good old Enna+Hope shenanigans.
There's #3 down. If they're not gonna let me use my WoFF twins, then I'm gonna use my other fave who excels vs three foes: Strago. He gave all three Shantotto's a proper spanking, and I realized how awful it is using Ursula during force time with her turn warping and instant turns putting out weak damage (I don't have her BT, maybe that helps). Also made a second staff UW with the free cores we got from the login bonus today since I've been finding a need for a second staff lately (used 2 staff users in stage 2 as well).
Up next is...frick yeah, they want me to use Enna! Looks like the favourites get to keep getting used. Looks like the enemy force effects want you to use holy, dark, and lightning damage. I get holy and dark, but why lightning? Does anyone remember the other featured character on Enna's BT banner?
>if you start a new account and clear all the story chapters, the message you get when finishing the last chapter is >The story will continue in another place and time.
Brehs...
>The story will continue in another place and time.
Opera Omnia 2 confirmed
meme aside, if that's really the case I glad they EoS'd, the whole game needs an overhaul and they can learn from all their mistakes
Opera Omnia's spiritual successor is the only gacha I would ever pick up. Out of literally dozens of gacha at this point, I've never stuck with any of them except OO, and I stuck with OO all the way until the end. I don't really know how likely SE is to launch another gacha now that Ever Crisis exists, though. I feel like they're going to put all their eggs in the VII basket for a while.
My biggest gripes with the game were the awful amount of loading screens because of how awful the UI and menus were. Like the party edit menu was definitely not designed with there being 100+ characters in the game, and yet they never bothered to change it to better fit it all and reduce the amount of scrolling up and down. Every button was unnecessarily too big.
Like look at this shit, atleast 50% of the screen is large buttons, and theres still fricking scroll arrows to show the last 3 gamemodes because they dont fit. Dont even get me started on summon boards and the World of Illusion menus, that shit was the most mind numbing process, you can waste a whole 45 minutes just trying to get 1 unit completed with the amount of back and forth.
>you can waste a whole 45 minutes just trying to get 1 unit completed with the amount of back and forth.
It came pretty late in the game, but that new enhance screen they added turns it into like a 5 minute process, but new characters were still really annoying to max out due to the (streamlined) back and forth. I found Opera Omnia's loading screens to be pretty tame compared to literally any other gacha in existence, at least after the all-in-one enhance screen. For me, the most annoying part of the UI was the friend list, because you don't want to or can't be using a friend in the first place, but the option is always there, and you have to scroll to the bottom every time in order to opt out. It ends up being 2 completely unnecessary loading screens that become very annoying any time a new story chapter, LC, or IW is released. Besides, when they added those mission quests where you actually could use friend units, it seemed like the friend units that I actually wanted to use were NEVER the ones I was able to select. A failure in all regards, the friend list was
Posting this for posterity before I start buying shit. Also, I checked my mailbox for my BT token expiration, and I found out that I now have 92/300. That's a pretty neat way to implement that fix
That's four down, and this is what this victory lap toward EoS is all about: dabbing on Shinryu bosses with faves that never got BTs or even an FR! Cyan got his time to shine, now it's Xande's turn. Always knew a BT/FR for this guy would be an insta-pity for me, but it never came. At least he got to shine in the story.
I put him on the squad with the Enna/Hope meme combo because this was one of those elemental lockout fights and I remembered Xande was the only party dark enchant call. Yeah, I know Enna gives it with her BT but I figured hey, at least that means he can work here. Unfortunately, it'd be so long since I took Xande off the bench that I forgot all of his stuff was dark AND earth, meaning he hit for 1 brv damage for the entire battle. He looked so happy though, spamming Meteors. It was sad when the boss was at 1% hp, I was at 505% hp damage retain, and Xande's Meteor didn't kill.
I actually ended up using 3 separate force times to pull this off: the first with Hope, then 2 with Enna. The boss finally got their force attack off on the turn before I killed it, but the protective buffs and overheals from Hope meant we tanked it no problem.
Next is the White Dragons from the story chapter that gave Minwu his FR. Another fave of mine that never got his echo on global! Fricking hell, I'll still find a way to rep my favourite white mage though. Just gotta figure out who to pair with him. It's another fight from the elemental lockout era, demanding holy damage. Oh wait, I misread, it just wants holy or non-elemental. Might give Yang one last kick at the can then.
In retrospect, I wonder what the point behind Papalymo was. The devs knew that EoS was coming by that point, so why the simultaneous release? If it was just a last-minute cash-grab from people that would pull on impulse, you'd think they would have picked a more popular character.
it certainly doesn't feel like a cash grab, more like a plan that was made when the game was fine to announce in grand fashion "XIV is getting new things again" but then EoS happened and made that moot
I think they knew there were a lot of people disappointed by the lack of FF14 stuff, so they decided to release him because he'd be the biggest draw over anyone else they could have released.
Cloud. I simp for Paladin Cecil so that helps, but it's also just really dynamic with good camerawork and doesn't just look like recycled animations. The launch at the end really helps.
I vote for Zidane as the absolute worst FR. Not only is the link extremely tenuous (I guess they both have tails?) but the animation is clearly recycled and from sources that weren't great in the first place: Zidane's Skill 2 and that fricking "hand out" pose that's used fifty times in every cutscene. HATE it.
>Faris
Looks cool, she does a cute blitzball swan animation. Probably my favorite overall. I really like her Free Willy BT animation too. I feel like the animator(s) liked Faris >Rubicante
The animation itself is okay, I mostly like it because I genuinely like Rubicante and they had him kino heal Leo in the FR >Lightning
I feel like this FR with Firion should have been the gold standard for FRs. Not my favorite, but certainly a level of quality that should have been more common >Rufus
I just like the implication with this animation that Fran is Balthier's pet >Kain
The animation held up really well in my opinion as the first FR >Cloud of Darkness
Probably my favorite of the more "lame" FR animations
Guess I'm done playing. Finally broke my login streak. Just couldn't be bothered to get on today. Maybe I'll come back when the costume shop comes out. I'm sad.
>Relm
hipster, tease >Eiko
serious, not quite tsundere, more of a tryhard >Arciela
Hayamin's don't seem strictly genki to me other than love for food. >Penelo
fairly serious, looking after Vaan, but too bland for me to really object >Serah
Doesn't give me genki vibes except when she's dropkicking Mog.
And there's stage 5 down, two more to go this month. I decided to give these three offturn legends one last hurrah. Sad that Minwu didn't get his echo/FR board on global but his basic FR was enough for this fight even with inflated hp. Gladio was probably my favourite counter tank to use in this game and I was looking forward to his BT, but c'est la vie.
Next up is Omega Weiss, who wants us to use Reno or Vincent. Despite being a bit of a VIIgay, I failed to get both of their BTs at every opportunity but they both have echoes so I'll try to slot the two of them then find someone with a BT to help out. Maybe this is a decent place to set Sephiroth to be thematic and use another one of my faves.
>Sad that Minwu didn't get his echo/FR board on global but his basic FR was enough for this fight even with inflated hp.
Same, but his base FR has always been pretty insane. It builds to 999% insanely quickly, so the only thing missing about it is 50% HP damage cap, which wasn't really a thing back when he debuted
That team you used brings back memories. I essentially boycotted Shinryu until Cor came out, and then when Cor came out I ran Cor/Gladio or Cor/Gladio/Yang for all of the content I skipped, and it stayed that way until Minwu came out, and for me Shinryu actually began when Minwu released since because I was actually already a Minwu fan and he's when I started having fun again (though Cor is pretty fun too, I just don't have an attachment to him as a Final Fantasy character)
>Maybe this is a decent place to set Sephiroth to be thematic and use another one of my faves.
I'd be careful with anything that rebreaks constantly. I always preferred Aranea over Astos, so when the fight came out I used an Aranea squad, and I had "killed" the boss pretty early on, but I failed the fight because it took 80 turns (!!) before Omega Weiss got a turn again, and he needs to take 3 turns before you can kill him
It's an old screenshot, but I admit I was too much of a pussy to switch to Ultimate until recently. It was the "Oh, just let me farm more Collectacards and get more levels. I'll just stick to Expert until I'm good enough to get to Ultimate" cope. The jump in difficulty is fricking absurd and the only way to deal with it is to load up on healers and jump in.
I'll try and get her built. I already finished maxing out the Black Crystal Room, but I guess she'll be useful for the "clear a fight with 3 of the same crystal color" characters. I think I can live without her BT though.
+Max HP might help Lenna and Angeal but I don't see a big need either. She still looks great without it.
Good luck!
200 tickets. Got everything but her BT.
Missing her BT and her EX but I still have some EX tokens.
Now that I get a chance to use her she's actually pretty loaded.
>first with Kadaj
>now with Xande
goddammit OO stop making me actually like characters I used to feel absolutely nothing for
I'm starting to be gaslit into thinking that if Aki Ross from The Spirits Within shows up she too can be written well.
Get ready for the upcoming Angeal, Sephiroth, and Genesis plot thread. It's surprisingly solid and its implications for Rebirth/Part 3 are huge.
Qrd for the implications?
Angeal and Genesis want the human Sephiroth back. Sephiroth had discarded his memories of them when he fell into the Lifestream, but he shows a VERY strong reaction to their names and especially later when Angeal starts reminding him of their life together (before the three of them fell apart). Genesis himself isn’t in OO yet, but Weiss apparently knows his intentions and helps Angeal out with Sephiroth because that’s what Genesis wants. Angeal also says that Sephiroth “Was and is my friend. Always will be.” and he would be on his side until the end even though he’s willing to fight against him. He thinks that Genesis also wants to fix things between them, and retrieving “their” Sephiroth is basically Angeal’s mission from here on. The chapter emphasises that Genesis and Angeal know Sephiroth on a very different level than anyone else in VII, and Sephiroth in turn has a strong emotional connection to them.
OO isn’t Rebirth, obviously, but this is the first time in any FF spinoff where post-crazy Sephiroth is shown to be emotionally vulnerable.
Now throw in Genesis and the Ever Crisis trio into OO and Sephiroth would get completely bullied into being their friend. Remember kids, peer pressure always wins.
Don’t know if he cares about Green Macha Tea that much, but Genesis and Angeal are clearly framed as the key to him. Zack outright says that he missed them a lot and stated going batty after losing them. It’s also interesting that Angeal uses memories of Genesis as his emotional trump card against Sephiroth, with the implication their relationship had been particularly emotionally charged.
And it works, considering Sephiroth has a full blown “I don’t need this, I don’t need you, I only need muh will” freakout in response.
That's the crossover treatment for ya. Super Robot Wars also partially rewrote Seed Destiny to be better than it's original counterpart.
>Super Robot Wars also partially rewrote Seed Destiny to be better than it's original counterpart.
Holy frick, no way. Which SRW title specifically?
Is Onion Kid finally good after being trash forever, including the storyline where he was supposed to be this game's main character?
He had hp attack reworks but he still needs a force board update.
In that Xitter video, OK uses an Echo
I guess they finally updated him in JP.
that's the magic of having other characters that are willing to call out everyone's bullshit, and Destiny has a lot of bullshit to call out
Z specifically, L too to an extent, a lot of times it's showed up it was post-script so this is rarer than you might think
Thinking of playing this after
Any advice or pitfalls to avoid?
Right now, you can pull on a banner that has Weiss/Auron/Laguna, where Weiss and Auron are dumb good and useful. Laguna is fine too but not as much as these two. Alternatively, theres a Sephiroth banner, you can get his kit, then wait for Yda tonight, pull her stuff, and set up one of the dumbest auto cheese strats where Yda basically gets infinite turns thanks to Sephi's BT weapon. Alot of the units that are currently up are all pretty good in their own area regardless if you see a favorite, any of them will help you melt thru pretty much every old content outside of Shinryu difficulty by themselves.
I'd say the pitfall to avoid is to be smart with your resources, especially with things like weapon upgrade mats and enhancement points. As a new player, you'll be swimming in it, but you can very easily melt through your stash when you start picking units to upgrade. Just be informed, you dont want to fully 110% invest in a unit you're only going to use once in a blue moon or that has a very niche kit.
And well, having fun is important too.
>Any advice or pitfalls to avoid?
If you've ever played a gacha game, this game is very much unlike every other gacha out there. There is like 2 million + gems in permanent content as well as over 10,000 tickets (which are basically pulls that do not build towards pity, and do not have a bonus rate up pull in them). These 2 million gems are enough to go to pity on 23 characters. The bottleneck in this game, as of Shinryu, is Enhancement Points, and I think as a noobie you get like 100-200k of these, and you get a free premium mooglepass which is good for another 100k+, but it costs ~30k points to fully max someone to FE50
Always pull for and max out the giga meta. Always pull for favorites, max them out if you want. Anyone else? Ticket their kit up to FR, and leave them at FE0, and only fill in their LD board + the FR Echo passive. That makes it so that you can easily carry a ticket mission unit through the fights on a budget of only 2300 Enhancement Points. As far as gems/tickets, most of those are stored in the Divine Summon boards and the Character Summon boards, which are the 2 huge grinds in this game, but you only need to do them once and you get huge rewards for doing it
Anything else, I recommmend JoeWags beginner videos on YouTube. When I was new, his were the guides that I feel like I learned the most from
Oh, and you need every one of a unit's weapons in this game
>15/35/EX/LD/FR
You need these. You just straight up do. Tickets are good enough to get you all of these weapons, and don't be afraid to use tickets when you are new. The only thing you should use gems for is if you are chasing a BT for either meta unit, or a unit you really like
You should clarify that you need all those weapons to handle most recent day/last year content. You can easily get by with someone who has an LD or FR to clear all those fistfuls of early lost chapters and at least the first 2 story arcs.
I would not recommend that an account with 10k tickets ever skip an FR. The only thing that's optional is the BT, which should only be gotten for giga meta or favorites
Dude, he needs to GET those tickets first. He doesnt have to worry about pulling an entire kit when he's going to be going thru the easiest content possible or grinding summon boards for afew good weeks. He needs to start off with something as simple as an LD to actually clear that stuff. I understand your advise here, i do, but your not applying it correctly.
>grinding summon boards for afew good weeks
Are you like a day 1 player? You can easily be completing all current content up to Lufenia on the same day if you know what you're doing, and within days/week1 if you don't. If he goes after the Auron BT, he can probably be beating the Shinryus too
Well, i assume he has a life and doesnt want to play the game for more than 7 hours straight. I dont know what speedhax your using, but all the back and forth loading screens, animations, and cutscene skipping, it would not a take a single day. Also, summon board grinding 3 units at a time, uh hello? Really? Im just not gonna bother anymore, have a good one.
>Really? Im just not gonna bother anymore, have a good one.
You're making it a lot more complicated than it actually is. If you tell someone they need to spend weeks in baby mode cp15 era before they can tackle the incredibly easy endgame of DFFOO, then that is what they will be doing. There's zero reason a new player cannot be completing at least Lufenia content. My advice was also meant to be taken along with JoeWags YouTube videos, since there are more concepts and screens than a text post on Ganker can go over
I learned my lesson though. I'll keep my mouth shut. They shouldn't even think of completing Lufenia until weeks after they begin their account. I'll let you guys tell him things like his characters aren't doing damage because his artifacts aren't perfect (advice told to me, here)
Oh also, the cactuar tokens can be exchanged for stamina potions at a rate of 5:1, which I think is much better than it used to be. You can setup a macro and grind them out "pretty quick". You don't need to build up stamina potions to do this, really, and you can get to 1 pity pretty fast as well by going through and unlocking characters
Summon boards are always going to take time but there's no need to limit your first weeks to permanent content when you could try tackling limited time stuff to get rarer mats. It's true you don't need to go all out to make characters useful, though. Take Yda+Sephiroth for example, you "only" need Yda's LD and Sephiroth's BT for it to work.
And the summon fights for farming summon board points, most of those bosses die with a single LD or two from an offense unit.
Gems are your limited gacha currency, you will be getting a lot of them as a new player but spend them wisely. Never use them to continue a fight if you lose and don't spend them aimlessly in gacha. Most banners allow you to buy featured gear after you spend a certain amount, so planning accordingly is key to ensure you get what you want.
You automatically get the character if you pull their gear so don't feel pressed to speed through the story to unlock them.
Never, ever, sell gear without fully maxing it (3 times limit break + extra 3 for realizable gear). Even if it's a character you think you'll never use, keep it. You'll feel tempted to do this to acquire power stones but it's not worth it in the long run.
There's 2 weapons you can't get outside gacha: FR & LD. If there's a character you want to use you should try getting those 2 at minimum.
Add everyone you meet in coop as friends. Friend units can carry you through a lot of content.
Same tbh, I never cared much for Xande but this chapter did pretty well in endearing him to me, same with Leonora (who I didn't know because I never player The After Years).
Though, I do wish they hadn't shoved Navaat in, didn't give a shit about before nor after the chapter and all she did was piss me off frequently (and make me wanna hit Leonora on the back of her head on a few ocassions).
It really is, and it's no wonder why, Xande is literally right, Noah added more stuff to Doga's and Unne's repertories, meanwhile Xande's "gift" was more like an exchange.
They kind of made a good point in the chapter, especially considering Eald and his brother, but you would think Noah would have taught or given Xande something that he could use his inmortality for or that at least gave him a start to get something, instead of what he did.
What i wouldnt give for them to completely remake the games menu UIs and HUDs. They could stop releasing content for a whole month to work on it and i wouldnt even be mad about it.
>Leonora uses a spell
>Spider mommy out of no where
Now this is my type of magic!
https://twitter.com/DFF_OperaOmnia/status/1721709053351800835?s=20
Agrias BT/FR and rework. She's looking amazing.
Gonna start grinding the Green crystal room in preparation for her
Anyone else not able to log in today? I'm gonna be pissed if I miss the daily sparkles.
Working for me.
I am officially freaking out. It seems to be the internet connection error but
>I can connect to all of my other games perfectly
>some of my games are other Square Enix games that likely have their servers in the same building as OO's
>I've had no other connection issues on any other device on this network all day
I've restarted my device, the issue persists. I've tried waiting, disconnecting and reconnecting to the internet, nothing works. The next step would be to uninstall the app and do a fresh install, taking God knows how long, but considering the error occurs even when I try tapping the Data Management button on the title screen, I don't even think that would work. Frick, frick, FRICK!
Data or wifi connection?
Wifi. Restarted my router, nothing changed. Just tried data for the heck of it 'cause I didn't even think I had any, thanks for the suggestion. Seems to be downloading now, I'll try to see if I have enough to do my daily hunt for my dailies then quit for the day. No idea what I'll do if this persists, I'd have to quit after 5 or 6 years, however long this game's been running.
Yeah, it's frickin' over for today. Uninstalled, reinstalled, I get the same connection error when I try to transfer my data. Time to permanently be behind on sparkles.
>finish installing game
>get hit with a warning I've used 50% of my data
>rush to the daily hunt sweating
>press hunt
>get hit with a warning I've used 90% of my data
>need to download 100 MB to load the hunt stage
>get the no connection error because I've run out of data
Owari da
I'm so sorry anon. Try disconnecting from your network (no need to "forget", just disconnect), turn off wifi on your device and restart it, then re-enable wifi and reconnect to the network.
Thanks, but that was one of the first things I tried, no dice.
That's how I normally play, just with wifi since I have barely any data.
Damn, wish I read this before I left last night, wasn't even thinking emu. Don't have any old phones or tablets.
The good news is I can connect again to the game today, so I guess there was some freak issue with my wifi's connection to the game only yesterday and only to that particular SE mobile game. Bad news is I'm still screwed out of my dailies yesterday, what a shame it happened during a sparkles campaign. I'm gonna try and contact support to see if I can still try to get them but I've tempered my expectations.
And more bad news, it looks like Laguna FR will be the first one I skip since Kuja's since I have zero tickets and 34k gems. Got nothing on the free multi except some old 5 stars I MLB'd ages ago.
Turn off your phone data and play the game only with wifi connected? Gonna have to do that anytime you play i guess. That sounds like such a weird and rare problem
All else fails use an emulator or even an old phone or tablet. It may run slowly but it still works on older devices.
>kinda wanted Laguna's FR because i like him
>literally having every other thing on the banner already
This sucks man.
It only took me 80 tickets to get it, so I'm pretty happy. But now I kind of want to green his BT.
>get FR
>realize I'd need to max it out now
Alas!
>not too interested in Laguna
>do the multi-draw expecting nothing
>get Laguna BT
...and to top it off, I tried to get his FR, got three dupes of weiss', one of Auron and one dupe of Laguna's BT...
...I don't even know what to feel...
Kinda fricked to release a new FR and throw it up against 2 other featured FRs that are not new.
You know what's the cherry on top? I was also missing Auron's BT, but not his FR, so the damn banner gave me the BT of the character whose FR I didm't have yet to bait into pulling with my scarce resources.
And like the moron I am, I fell for it...
>Kinda fricked
How though? Isn't it always the same odds? I know it doesn't feel like the same odds sometimes, but I'm pretty sure you have the same FR odds, except you also have extra chances at additional FRs, and instead of only 1 BT there are 3. All as additional odds, not reduced. I wish every banner was 3 BT and 3 FR. Your free pulls would be a lot more generally lucrative that way
>hopes my luck to get Laguna's FR with my remaining 30 tickets and 1 free multi
>gives me free 3 Auron FR dupes
Even back in EX era, the game knows what the player wanted, then trolls them instead .
>Free roll gave me a Laguna FR
>"alright fine I guess I'll ticket the rest of his kit"
>get another copy of Weiss's BT trying to get his EX
eventually got it, up to FR, I'll probably never use him but they always tease me with this shit, at least that BT reminded me Weiss is FE50 now
>Laguna's okay, but other characters do his job better
>Still, I already have him green and I'm maxed out on blue crystals, so he'd be a great budget unit
>Get his FR on the free pull
Sometimes things work out.
>can't stop thinking about Sephiroth EX dupes
>spend ~450 total tickets just to get one EX dupe for a sphere that I may never actually use
>while I still have 60 ex tokens
I might be moronic, but I'm only moronic if I don't hit 0 tickets, and I know a Spiritus is coming up
>BT off-turn damage triggers even if Laguna isn't on the field and it scales with FR time
Oh that's cool. I never really used Laguna before so I had no idea. I guess I'll go ahead and green him. That sounds pretty useful.
>uses Shelke in Re-Shinryu
>fight is still only 13 mintues
>the only one of these mission quests I haven't cleared yet is the Dagger one
>don't have any reliable DPS in dagger except a few blue characters
alright I need advice, green Locke or Zidane, which do you think is better, I'm working on Blue anyway so I could realistically benefit from either
Zidane. He's good at shutting fights down with some extra stats from blue crystals. Honestly I haven't found any use for Locke. I greened him once he got his FR and tried to drag him through a few fights, but he feels like a bit of a mess and he doesn't feel like he's contributing anything. Even when he can get off a big HP+ it doesn't feel any stronger than a hit from Aranea. I don't have Ursula's BT though so he'd probably work a lot better if you do.
Zidane it is, I've been plugging my way through the blue crystal boards towards the important ones, I'm curious to see how his numbers would come out to be once I get the EX reset one, especially in comparison to Aranea, I do have Ursula's so I might get some use out of him but it feels like it'll be a lot more work for at the very best comparable numbers, thanks for the input
Rely on your friend instead. I used Rem, Penelo and Keiss with an Astos friend.
Anybody pulling for Yda?
So she's basically big giant unga bunga damage? I feel like i have enough of those already to be honest.
I'm building green crystals, so she seems like a no-brainer. I don't care about Ydaroth, but more wall bounce damage for Fujin to boost sounds nice.
I don't have Sephiroth BT, and while I think that Yda was better than Lyse, I do not care about either one. I'll get the FR like usual, but not going after BT
all in for XIV, maybe one day we'll get a rework for a character that's actually alive
Not me, got nothing thanks to Laguna and my own stupidity.
Even then, would have probably just tried to get her FR, more interested in Cissnei and Arciela, maybe Snow if things had been better.
Yes.
Have you played RK? It's kinda like that with weapons being needed. Still gotta build up characters but it's far faster than say, WotV. BE was also kinda quick but needed to give away more "doors" or whatever the material was to increase stats.
Yup. Got her BT before the FR and got the FR right at 200 tokens so I used less than half of my gems. I think I'll buy Fujin's BT and save the rest of my resources for Agrias.
>CRAB 4
QRD?
No idea. Crystal Room Ability 4?
Since it's talking about her LD, I assume it's the crystal ability that gives you more LD uses.
https://dissidiacompendium.com/bonuses/crystal/abilities
Since they are mentioning turns, I believe it is Crystal Room Ability 4... but I think the speed one (basically Lunafreya's Quick Prayer) is actually the 3rd ability
Or, probably just CRystal ABility. Stupid abbreviation, but they can't use CA because Call Ability I guess. I still think they mean 3 instead of 4
Cursed anon here, looks like Yda will be the second FR I skip in a row. Still at no tickets and 35k gems, plus the new single challenge doesn't give tickets. Figures, during the Fujin banner when I needed gems they released content that didn't give gems and during these Laguna/Yda banners when I'm out of tickets, they release content that doesn't give tickets.
Good luck Ydabros!
I have a perfect all the mission quests but the Halloween sticker is still locked(darkened out) is there something I done wrong or is it unlocked when it's over?
You only need three missions complete to get it, so you should have it already.
It's unlocked, it just looks really dark the first time. Try dragging it to your sticker bar.
Reminder that there's an unmasked Yda model in the game, and they don't let you use it.
Cute! I really do enjoy OO's story and exploration of characters.
Had to go full pity for Yda BT, but I got it so I'm happy. She's gonna shred this Shinryu and I'm going to enjoy it.
>throw the few tickets I got from the new chapter at Laguna out of desperation
>get a third Auron FR
...this game can be pretty sadistic sometimes...
what are the odds this game will eos in the next year? it is a square enix gacha...
Pretty easy Shinryu tbh, ran it with a greened Fujin and Dorgann and an LD only Yda and managed to clear it fine even if i forgot to equip 5/5UWs on Dorgann and Yda.
>Pretty easy Shinryu tbh
They really all are. The only Shinryu fights that are ever remotely difficult are single target main story fights. This one was main story, but was not single target
I am once again asking if anyone has a maxed Astos they'd be willing to toss up and a friend code they'd be willing to share.
Trying to do the ticket and crystal missions at the same time is usually harder than this.
>thinking of ways to incorporate XVI's eikons into the game without just making them BT finisher animations
I got it, they transform for a single attack every few turns, like Dagger's LD. Just replace the normal character model with something big like Enna's robot arm or larger models that pop in like Jegran's final boss form.
I'm finally going through the latest story chapter, gonna try to do both halves today so I can get caught up.
Man, they are really going out of their way at the start here to not call Xande black lmao. Seriously, the mystery of who helped Leonora out would've been instantly solved just by including that one detail.
Anyone remember or know the order that Spiritus summons were added? Want to back to the oldest one and try out some of those "clear with units from X game or weapon"
https://dissidiacompendium.com/events?filter=true&woi=true&past=true&rev=true
This is the reverse order, so:
> Diablos > Alex > Levi > Ifrit > Shiva > Bahamut > Ramuh > Pande > Brothers > (Divine Odin, a Shinryu fight, but not a Spiritus fight)
Thank you anon
Man, caught up and Xande pulled off a pretty crazy feat of magic/willpower this chapter, jeez.
FR/BT when? I always liked the guy and thought his kit was kind of cool when it released with the stronger and faster Meteor spam and building Crystal Tower overhead giving various effects, but we've long since gone past ramping up playstyles plus he's never actually been that good.
It's still pretty funny that the writers can't actually come up with a single fricking reason why mortality is supposed to be "the greatest gift" after 30 years other than "Doga and Unne said it was, and they're good guys so you're supposed to agree with them."
They already hammered it in that the immortal characters were complacent slackers and Xande was the first person to actually reach his world. Xande's mortality is a problem for him to solve and the hunt for the solution means that he succeeds at developing magic that others only scheme at.
Eald'narche and Kam'lanaut being obsessive morons isn't due to their immortality, that's just a personal fault. Lazy idiots are gonna be lazy idiots no matter how long they have to live. No one is making the argument that characters like Fran and Quina are inherently less gifted because they live longer than everyone else. It's just a dumb cope.
The story also makes the point for the XIII crew in their LR years when they were effectively immortal for hundreds of years, not just a century like Fran. Then there is Rinoa who dreaded her sorceress's longevity. For that matter Xande actually succeeded at stopping time unlike Ultimecia.
Negatives:
XI brothers stagnation and obsolete goals
L'Cie and fal'Cie ennui and focused compulsion
Sorceress's crippling loneliness and degeneration
Positives:
You live longer, except that in III, Xande's immortal rivals ultimately do not live longer than he did nor did they particularly age gracefully compared to Xande, his scowl aside. Not to mention their so-called gifts do more to take them away from the world than let them experience more if it. They are effectively dream/magic janitors whereas Xande could work on his own wishes and die gracefully. Xande's teacher gave the other two jobs and told Xande that the mortal world was his oyster. So in the end he b***hed a lot and killed a lot for nothing special within the rules of his own world because apparently everyone there rejoins the Spirit anyway whether they are immortal or not.
>finally able to use friend units (again)
>can't find the friend unit I actually want to use (again)
>enter and quit stage numerous times
>they still don't show up
>prune friends list down to ~40
>they still don't show up
>don't want to prune the list any further
>complete the stage using a unit that isn't the one I wanted to use
Don't delete me!
So looks like Garland's FR partner is Spiritus. Absolutely crazy. They might be making him a playable character in the near future. Makes wonder who will have Materia as their FR partner.
>went from "they don't need to worry about overlapping partners anymore"
>to "they don't even need to be fricking playable to be partners"
this is a wild ass time we're living in
That's awesome, though I guess it's kind of a shame that WoL didn't get Materia as his partner.
Eiko is looking absolutely fricking busted. I can't wait to see what crazy shit people are able to pull off with her.
So who is most likely to get Materia? I don't follow the story. Is it gonna be a thing where Spiritus just gets Materia? Or is there some FRless character that matches?
The only "major" characters left without FRs are Y'shtola, Prishe and Firion, so probably one of them. Personally I think Firion would fit the best - he's the Weapon Master and Materia is the one who forges all the Ultimate Weapons. It could make for a cool animation where she gives him all of the different UWs which he then throws at the enemy.
Considering that's about as much as I know about Materia, I do like your Firion idea. I think they even did something somewhat similar with Leon where they gave him a bunch of dark versions of the copper weapons
>So looks like Garland's FR partner is Spiritus. Absolutely crazy.
Holy shit, I've been waiting for the gods to playable since day 1, but assumed they'd be the last characters released. Think level 100 will be the end of this? I don't see more than one more weapon tier being released, if that.
It should've been WoL due to story, but I really like this idea related to the UWs too.
Garland FR
>Enemy recovers from Break in 3 turns (instead of 5)
What a fricking nothing burger. I hope Garland's numbers are good enough to use him though. He was my first free random BT, and I always like having an excuse to use him
>Eiko FR is also a blank, like Aerith and Arciela and Minwu and Penelo
https://twitter.com/DFF_OperaOmnia/status/1724245768624603158
Those are some pretty cute animations.
That turn warping is about as nutty as it sounded on the text
I still can't believe that something like that can even work in DFFOO's code, when Cid Raines has BRV exploits on his FR attack with this thing. I don't know how it's not going to be buggy with at least one of the abilities
Messing around with her in JP. Interestingly it looks like the Warp is tied to Eiko herself. So if you're in a co-op and another player triggers the turn warp, the Eiko player has to select who gets the next turn.
>Eiko joins the blacklist of "get the frick out if you see her in coop lobbies"
No thank you
That they are, the FR is especially adorable, which makes it being one of those healing/battery-only FR even more fitting.
That aside she seems MUCH better now, I'm looking forward to her.
How's her damage looking? I can't count all the HP dumps.
>another co-op that does not have a Shinryu
Starting to hate it
Looks like the BT changed HP will do ~3mil damage to 2 targets @ zero gauge (25mil / 8). I'm not autistic enough to know how many HP attacks that is, and I don't know how to tell whether it's split or full anyway, but I think that's pretty decent damage for a support unit. Now that orbs are back it's probably not really a thing, but Eiko + Agrias + basically infinite turn hogger would be funny, though in practice UltiQuina + Agrias is probably better, with the only limiting factor on either of those being the orb
Eiko still has the utility of being able to revive you after a Lufenia orb goes off, so theoretically you could just hit buttons and not have to worry about the countdown running out.
Unfortunately, even if she rezzes the party you still lose your BT auras.
>so theoretically you could just hit buttons and not have to worry about the countdown running out.
Do characters lose BT effects and buffs if they're revived? The only time I ever used that strat was for an Eiko solo so I dont' actually know
They lose special effects lile BT effects and Calls, but their personal buffs/Overheads simply go back to QS status, think they also keep the ability use counts the same as when they died.
Dunno how it works with Crystal Passives tho.
>Crystal Passives
Do you mean something like A1? The better version of the buff sticks around even if you die, since it's tied to the number of turns that have passed.
Her upgraded HP+ attack has 14 HP dumps which makes her one of the hardest hitting characters in the game.
What an awful team. At least Selh'teus can basically solo fights. I don't know how anyone can do crystal quests with yellow. There are some great units, but trying to build a functional team with them is tough.
There's a reason why Selh'teus was so hyped for Crystal Quests.
>I don't know how anyone can do crystal quests with yellow
You could have used Snow and green
I just did it twice. First time I carried Jesse, second time I just smoked it with Auron, Quina and Astos for the sparkle reward.
Since the crystal missions have been added, I've tried to make it a rule that I do the ticket and crystal missions simultaneously. Leonora's fight got pretty dicey but I still managed it. Content's been so easy lately that it helps keep things interesting. Might end up breaking my rule for Spiritus Diabolos though since I'm not planning on pulling for Cissnei and you usually don't have room to screw around with those fights.
As the anon who full cleared the yellow crystal room, having Tifa/Lightning/Sherlotta/Quistis fully built was essential, and it was always a combination of three of those before Selh'teus released. Every week was hell and required following a video clear and reproducing it 100% perfectly. Then when Selh'teus released it became easy mode and I didn't even have to think any more.
He truly lived up to the hype, bless that crystal boi.
Managed to get back up to 50 tickets, and it took all of them to get Yda's FR. Still missing Laguna's and the multi tickets on Jessie's banner gave me nothing but trash. Not looking good unless we can get a lot tickets soon.
>Clear 40 quests with Jessie
I can't believe I still do these stupid Chocoboard missions every time. They haven't even updated the rewards since the CHAOS era. Can't wait to get more Bloom Tokens.
>They haven't even updated the rewards since the CHAOS era
The did start putting High Power Stones in them pretty much as soon as Shinryu began, which at the very least is much better than when they starting giving them to JP in the Chocoboards, which I think didn't happen until around the Dorgann/Cid Raines/Seymour time
What crystal passives does Astos want? The bigger the numbers, the better
>A1 - 20% ATK & mBRV Up. Increases by a further 10% every 5 turns up to 3 times. (50% ATK/mBRV up total)
I would give him A1 personally. His overhead is based on his mBRV, and his overhead is what decides his damage. I don't think any of the other passives directly increase his mBRV like A1 does?
>A3 - 5% BRV/HP DMG up per buff. HP DMG Limit +10% flat. Buffs ticks down an extra turn on turn end.
The other thing Astos wants is HP damage up, but I know that the couple times I've used him, I seem to be going into his BT phase just as one of his QS buffs are running out, so I'm not sure if the shorter buff duration of this passive would interfere with setup. If you can manage his buffs, he would enjoy the +HP damage up
>U6 - Gain 2 uses of LD.
>When using your LD Abilit: 20% HP DMG & Limit Up
Could be useful on 2 or 3 target fights. The few times I've used him, I use the free LD ability to do two S1s, but his LD is a really hard hitter, so this could give some extra oomph for multi target fights
>U2 - At the start of the quest first turn becomes an instant & free turn. If a similar effect is applied (e.g. Lightning) extends the effect for 1 turn. 30% BRV/HP Damage Up for 3 Turns.
This is another source of +HP damage, but only for 3 turns. I do imagine the extra turn might help with setup, but I do not know if the "3 Turns" of +HP damage would remain in BT phase, and if it does work you'd need to begin the BT phase on his 3rd turn, which might lead to bad setup. I think this wont work, really, but it could, so I'll include it as a possibility
Those are the ones I'd be deciding between if I were using Astos. I'd give him A1 for sure, and then honestly I'd probably use my other 2 free crystal passives to give the rest of the team what they want, assuming black crystal/sparkle missions
>The other thing Astos wants is HP damage up, but I know that the couple times I've used him, I seem to be going into his BT phase just as one of his QS buffs are running out, so I'm not sure if the shorter buff duration of this passive would interfere with setup. If you can manage his buffs, he would enjoy the +HP damage up
Third party observer here, chiming in to mention that Leonora is a party buff extender and the only black supercharger so if you're using them together on a black crystal team, she should be able to help manage that with her S1 that she uses to charge anyway.
Lufenia only co-ops need to stop. This shit is the worst
Co-ops need to stop in general. They've always been the worst part of this game. I'm happier just doing Single Challenges. Same result, but at least I don't have to worry about running out of bells and can use Auto+/
Yeah, that too, but Shinryu + Skip Tickets is a nice compromise. Lufenia only co-ops is the worst of everything, especially because I think shops require way more grinding than they used back when there wasn't Shinryu
I got back into the game recently and so far Co-op has been the worst part for me. Can't skip them because they give out BT+ shit but doing them each time is a slog.
If you could LD spam them they would be okay but you have to use 3+ long ass FR attacks that were designed to be seen once or twice per fight which just makes people lose focus when their turn finally comes up. Sometimes you can use quicker attacks at the finish but it's still a risk. But really the shops are overpriced.
I like doing Shinryu co-op with strangers.
Yuck, still working on the single challenge
All they gotta do is give out ten times more skip tickets so I can burn them on lufenias instead of hoarding for shinryu co-op.
I can finally almost start using my Enhancement Points
I like Lufenia co-ops
I have never played in coop and just solo'd them like any other stage.
>1,000 Yda artifacts
>zero ATK 108 / MAX BRV 330
I hate this shit so much
>Artifacts
With Crystal Rooms, artifacts are even more worthless.
It's just autism. I farmed perfect artifacts for everyone waaay back when I used my free premium mogpass. Everyone, that is, except the XIV characters, because I thought what's the point
Same. The only ones I'm missing are Y'shtola and Alisaie, who haven't been featured in...jeez, it must be literal years now for them to be the only chars I don't have perfect arts for.
Careful bro, those campaign/seasonal banners with reruns are the ones that get changed the most! good luck on your pulls, I'm finally back up to 70k gems so I got my nest egg secured for Arci. Gonna have to skip Cissnei, I guess. I don't think I'm gonna be able to get Laguna or Snow's FR, either.
How is Snow now anyway? He always seemed like a cool tank.
>How is Snow now anyway? He always seemed like a cool tank.
He's good, nothing too broken or anything but he can still put in work if you want him to.
His main issues are his focus on ST damage (only his LD, BT Finisher and Vendetta(+) are fully AOE, his S1, S2 and EX are ST though his EX has one splash instance) and his lack of off-turn damage to punish the enemy's turns he wants them to get, but despite that he can still do pretty well in fights (Vendetta+ adds a lot of damage to his own turns and his tanking abilities are pretty good).
>want Cissnei
>also want Arciela
I want both of these girls, but there is an upcoming campaign banner that has both Arci and Cissnei on it (with Leonora), so I'll probably skip them for now, since that campaign banner is only really ~1.5 months away with this accelerated schedule. There is also the possibility that they change the campaign banner though...
Is Arciela a big release/game changer? Like will she be useful in the long run or only for afew/niche fights?
Not really. She is really good though. While her BT aura is up it prevents bosses from gaining buffs and her own debuffs won't go down, so she'll basically permanently silence bosses and keep them from gaining brave as long as her BT aura is active. There are ways for some bosses to bypass that, but it's pretty solid 90% of the time. But we do have other characters who can lock out bosses, like Paine, or characters with enough paralyzes to permanently paralyze a boss. Plus when a boss is Silenced they can't attack, so you can't run her with counter-attackers. Still, she is really good and her personal damage is decent.
She does the Aerith Force Gauge charge thing, and she has 16% True Damage on her BT aura (based on amount of enemy debuffs). For comparison, Weiss adds 10% (but he also has preempts). That's what I view her as, anyway. True Damage I think is kinda rare, but the Aerith gimmick is becoming more common. Minwu gets Echo in a month or two, Penelo gets Echo, then Eiko has it
She isn't a big game changer, but she does hold up pretty well. There's a lot of characters that came out after her that she's managed to stay competitive with. Hell, look at how she's rated the same as Eiko who just came out a few days ago.
Altema ratings are a meme
>Rubicante can solo most fights
>94 for forever
>Kelger can solo most fights
>94 for forever
>Seymour, Cid Raines, Raijin
>85, solely for their call, though no note of this is made anywhere
>Cater also has this "85", probably also for the call ability only, though she is also a character capable of soloing fights like Rubicante and Kelger, so it's more ambiguous
>Relm provides *negative* value to the party
>80, the same rating as Enna Kros, who can provide your party with up to 90% HP damage cap up, and the same rating as Deuce who is also good... and also the same rating as Gilgamesh, who is a meme character at this point
>this "80" is also the same rating as Aerith
>Snow, who has all of the same pitfalls that both Reks and Zack had
>81, higher rated that Setzer, Quina, Aerith, Kain, Lenna, Deuce, Enna Kros, Beatrix, and Cor
>speaking of, Cor and Beatrix have a 70, which is lower than Jessie, Jihl, fricking Relm, Gilgamesh, etc
>Rem is still pretty decent, makes your party immortal, good turn hogger, setup, turn order, etc
>she has a 50, which is the same rating that LD only characters have
>Eiko single handedly turns every character into Rem/Cid Raines
>only a 95
>Setzer used to be higher than Quina, now they are the same
Oh nice, didn't realize the spiritus was tonight. With some luck, I might be able to pick up some of these recent FRs I had to pass on with the tickets.
Good luck!
Got shit all, just like the past 3 or 4 banners. Thanks anyway bro.
Came here to ask the same question.
She's SUPER cute, but not very good.
t. cursed anon who got completely screwed over by her and has her built
Good luck to everyone pulling for Cissnei!
(1/3) Black Crystal run with Leonara
(2/3)
At least I got a couple of Yda's FR weapons, so not much loss in high power stones I guess
(3/3) Dorgann and Sephiroth still a fun combo (I probably should have used Iris, but eh). Was gonna do a Jessie carry at some point, but I managed to nab Cissnei's BT with the two mission tix, so...
Is there any team comp that can hit all 9 nodes for Spiritus grinding? Best I can find is Ace (Green/Throw/0), Serah (White/Bow/13) and then either Aerith (Staff/7) or Shantotto (Black/Staff)
>check Leonora's stickers
>she sounds cute
Brehs... I might pooooll...
I would get her FR and LD at least. She has a huge toolkit. Off-turn healing, and party last stands along with Enna Kros/Sherlotta attacks are all rare and she has them in one place along with charging, buff extension, and a damage reduction aura.
Ah, so that's where all my luck went to
Congrats. She's the best character to run with any turn hogger.
Obligatory explode!
Her BT doubles them, making her the strongest off-turn follow-up character in the game I believe.
>Cissnei's offturn still have the same number of HP dumps
Meh.
Her follow up has 3 hp dumps. Her BT aura makes her hit with her follow up twice, so she has 6 HP dumps. That makes her the strongest follow up character in the game (though Kadaj can tie her against single target enemies). She keeps that position even in the current JP meta, though Agrias is better when the FR gauge hasn't been activated yet.
Between the two of them, I'd probably just keep using Weiss honestly. She has more HP dumps, but he's got true HP damage and party debuff immunity. Cissnei on her own doesn't do anything besides damage, even if it's slightly more damage.
I'm biased towards Weiss because I've got points in blue crystals (as well as red for Kadaj), but I've got issues with the way Cissnei's kit works compared to his. Weiss' BT gives him extra party support utility on top of his pre-emptive attacks. Cissnei's BT just makes her less of a pain in the ass to use and makes the one thing she does twice as good. I was hoping I'd get her BT, but after using her for the ticket mission I doubt I'd have used it much anyway. She just isn't very interesting.
How to burn through 400 tickets...
I finished my spiritus grind and spend a bit more than half of them getting Cissnei's FR and Laguna's FR (after FOUR Weiss dupes and an Auron dupe when both are already MLB). Spent the remaining 175 trying to get Snow's FR only to come up with nothing.
Assuming that crystal level 100 will be the last, are there any special passives you'd like to see? We've already got buffed extensions of skills and a 2nd rework of EXes for earlier crystal levels. I really hope to see them get crazy:
>big stat boosts
>bonuses similar to crystal room boons
>things like extending BT buff length or an extra BT turn (or use of the + skill)
>an extra 10% or so for FR boosts
>are there any special passives you'd like to see?
For me, the Crystal Room stuff is far better and more inventive than I could have ever asked for. And then they did it again with they Crystal Room abilities, which are kind meh, but I would not have thought of that myself. I hope they do something like that again where I'm surprised by how cool and unique it is. The only bummer is that for the Crystal Rooms it feels like about half of the passives are completely useless, and the same thing for the Crystal Abilities
I still think that Force should have worked fundamentally differently. The Gauge should have functioned like a Break gauge, except that it would be a push and pull between you and the enemy. There would be a condition each fight has that you need to hit (basically an Lufenia orb) in order to fill the break gauge, which at the same time also combats the enemy filling your break gauge (thus the push and pull). Obviously if the enemy Breaks your gauge, it would probably be game over, but then if you Break their gauge, you'd go into what we now have as Force Time. In my mind, my version plays faster than current Shinryu, so I think it would be 5 turns of Force Time, but maybe the multipliers would be bigger, so that maybe most fights would be 2 somewhat quick Force Times and push-pulls. I dunno. Anyway, I think Force Enhancements would affect how much gauge that character can add during Break, and maybe even how much Break gauge they fill when outside of Force Time, allowing them to fill the gauge a little bit even when they're not hitting the "gauge condition". This would make it so that you only really need to Force Enhance your favorites, so that you can cause them to be useable in every fight, and you wouldn't need to Force Enhance the banner units because obviously they'd already be hitting the gauge condition and contributing to the fight that way
But, we're not doing that, so I don't know what I'd add to what we currently have
BT call and improvement
>Use Diabolos tickets to go back and get Snow's FR
>Get Jessie's BT along the way
>Didn't realize that she, of all people, gets Let the Battles Begin as her BT track
Would have made sense for her the get something from the remake. High Five would have worked.
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>look up Selphie's rework
>wall didn't get buffed
What were you expecting/hoping for?
Something more, like HP damage reduction, way more brave reduction, a barrier, anything.
Sorry anon, ever since c90 the only rework a character is allowed to get is six more BRV dumps on every skill and an HP damage cap up on some passive somewhere.
What's the key to Rinoa soloing DE 11?
Cater call
It's just that fricking mag absorbtion that fricks it all up when the gauge goes to 50/70/whatever, on top of the later debuffs. I also heard something about elemental weakness needing to be hit, but nothing seems to suggest that in game.
>Cater call RNG dodge shit
>Cater LDCA @ 70% to eat the paralysis
>press buttons until FR
>kill them
You can also solo it with Sice, if you have her kit, which is probably easier since Sice already dodges everything naturally. All you really need to do is beat them to Force Time, which you can do easily with either Chocobo/Sylph or by using Cid Raines calls to build the Summon gauge. Then you just keep evasion and traps up until they die
So playing around with Yda, I can't help but think how weird it is that she doesn't exist in the story any more after being "replaced" by Lyse several years ago. And I'm wondering, what if the story introduced a "new" character without taking up the character slot for that month and it was... Yda. The real one. Gameplay-wise, nothing would change other than being able to use Yda and Lyse on the same team, but the story would be able to have the sisters interact with each other. Hey, if Reks, Braska, and the Dawn Warriors can get in, why not Yda?
>the story would be able to have the sisters interact with each other
I feel like this was a missed opportunity, but I guess something like that would be up to the XIV team.
All the Diabolos funds are gone, needed 200 tickets on top of the gems for her FR.
Serves me right for liking that dogshit mmo
Damn, sorry to hear that Anon. I was hoping I was the only person here getting screwed recently, guess my bad luck's contagious. Hope you have fun punching the shit out of things with her though!
I don't like this Spiritus and Cissnei seems really bad here.
She's good for punching through their BRV shields, but that's it. She's really lacking without her BT, and she doesn't have any other utility besides crit rate up. BRV shields are kind of a pain these days since everyone seems to only do one BRV hit between dumps anymore with battery making up the difference. It's hard to go through and try to figure out who's good at it anymore.
Do you not have Kelger? He solos this fight with no issue, and you can bring Ciss just to finish the ticket mission
*with 3 crystal passives
>*with 3 crystal passives
RIP
>*with 3 crystal passives
You mean 2. Also, D3 and D6 are by far the most impactful Crystal Passives. I've given that advice here before, I think twice. Off-turn has been the objectively best strategy for all of Shinryu, except in the scant few fights that force a more on-turn strategy, but most of those can be off-turned as well. They make the objectively best strategy for the past year and a half even better. They also provide overhealing and reduce damage taken, which are useful things on their own even for units that are not off-turn. And then finally, you can use D3 and D6 to manipulate your team's turn order as well as allowing yourself to more easily be able to carry ticket mission characters by forcing them to take less turns
I had no crystal passives on him since i focused on green/black and still carried Ciss thru it, along with Lenna to start the fight with extra gauge, who only had up to her FR weapon on.
I don't get it. It really seems like 50/50 whether DE11 wants to absorb attacks or not when their force triggers. Well, I beat it after finally getting the set-up right. Not quite as simple as timing the Cater LD call at around 50~60%, no siree. If only that was all that was required.
DE12 was the one people were using Celes to solo, right? Or was it another one?
>not investing into Red chads
After the 6 troll FRs and BT pity from Cissnei. Then my 400 tickets is just a single Kain FR which I already have.
This shit kept me away from buying mogpass again. It's always the FR you don't need that drops multiple times before you pity what you need. And if you don't even want the new FR/BT, guess what? You'll get it for free!
Being a lucklet is suffering.
My jaw literally dropped when a second one appeared after the first. I wasn't counting and assumed it was the 11th orb. This happened around 320 G tokens and I got 3 copies of her FR, so I nabbed the last copy with tokens for the MLB. Finally, some great luck!
I had a good day today, fellow lucklet. I hope your day comes soon!
>Alright, let's see who I've got in white crystals...
>Man, I don't think I ever used Enna Kros at all.
>...Wait, why the FRICK did I green Braska?
I've this issue where I'm just incapable of sitting on my resources, so stuff like this keeps happening. But being able to dust off my benchwarmers from time to time feels better than having a stockpile of nuggets in my inventory, so I don't think I'll ever learn better.
I WISH I can use my resources. I'm sitting on almost 20 BT books and 12 ingots with nothing to use them on because I haven't pulled a BT since Lenna. If I wasn't almost certain this game will EoS in about another year, I'd just reroll.
(me)
frick
>I've this issue where I'm just incapable of sitting on my resources
Literally the opposite
>500 tickets
>5 copies of Kain FR
>finally got one Arciela FR
Okay.
>Arci gave me her entire kit on the free pull in Lufenia
>she gave me her FR on the free pull in Shinryu
>no BT, so she doesn't actually want to marry me
Cute
I still don't know what true damage is.
Personally I don't think it's an appropriate name given what "true damage" refers to in other games, just like I think "HP dump" is a moronic thing to call "HP attack", and just like how the thing everyone calls "HP damage cap up" is actually "Max BRV cap up". Usually "true damage" refers to something that always hits and always deals a fixed amount of damage, even through shields and damage reduction and what have you
> - Party Deals 16% additional HP damage on Attacks
This is how the game describes the thing everyone refers to as "true damage". It's just an instance of additional damage, which is usually a flat percentage of an HP attack. So in the case of Arciela, if you have an enemy with 8 debuffs, you will deal 16% additional damage on HP attacks while her BT aura is up. So if you deal 100,000 per HP attack, you will also be dealing an additional 16,000 damage per HP attack. Just an instance of damage that scales off of 1) the damage done per HP attack, and 2) consequently, the amount of HP attacks that a character has (= more instances of this additional damage to occur)
True Damage basically bypasses all enemy defenses. You'll automatically deal that damage to them whenever the True Damage triggers, even if they would otherwise be immune to all damage. Some True Damage scales with FR time (like Weiss or Arciela) because it's based off the damage that another attack does. So the more damage that attack does, the higher the True Damage. But some True Damage (like HP Poison attacks from Exdeath or Agrias) don't scale with FR time because they just deal a specific amount of damage, regardless of how high the FR gauge goes.
>Arciela made me go full pity
well, I stuck to my "always pull for XI" mentality, and I'll continue to stick to it, but I wish she had been a little nicer about it
Angeal domination. I thought it's going to be Bhunivelze it would be more challenging because hopes banner.
>got her BT and FR in about 50 tickets after the free multis
Wheres this luck when i actually like the character...
>Garland rework is actually good
kino
Is that FR effect as useless as it sounds, or is there some extra utility to it? All Garland really needed was extra damage so it's not like it matters if his Force Time effect is ass, but it's weird that the devs bothered giving him such an esoteric effect as "enemy recovers from break faster" when we have Sephiroth, Iris, and Dorgann already.
Really it's just there to give a little help for teammates to fulfill his second FR condition (previous turn was an ally's turn +40%) and help with his BT aura (which loses all stacks when an enemy gets a turn). Between the faster rebreaks from his FR (if you use it) and Garland's natural delays, enemies probably won't be getting any turns.
Garland's FR gives him the minimum of self-sufficiency in preventing bosses from getting turns, but there are definitely other, better options if you want to use them.
Weee, full XI squad! I had to pity Arciela's BT, but I have no regrets whatsoever
If I had Ciaran's BT maxed maybe I could get it higher, but 551994x2 damage on Lancet is pretty nice.
When are we supposed to be getting the huge in game notice instead of the stream? Stream would have already happened, but notice didn't. Is this gonna be a Thursday thing or is it gonna be a gap all the way till Sunday?
Stream is next week, last event of the month on Wednesday.
>last event of the month on Wednesday.
Today is Wednesday, and the last event discussed on the previous stream was the Arciela Heretic Event that just happened before today. Right now, we don't know what else is going to happen, or when it is going to be. We are currently flying blind
>Stream is next week
There is not going to be a stream. There is going to be an in game notice. This was discussed on the previous stream, and it was not given a date. I just would have expected it released with Arciela's event. If it's not with Arciela's event, then my question is will it be on Thursday (which would possibly be the next event's release date) or are the going to dead week us all the way until next Monday (which is presumably when a stream might have been)?
WHERE IS SHE
I'm loving this whole "supports=damage dealers" thing.
Now just to be absolutely sure, there's no sparkle mission for the Spiritus, right?
I did Green Crystal to test, there was none in the Spiritus
Cool, thanks
Just my OCD making me doubt even though I've checked and rechecked it.
Not for the Spiritus, no. The frog Shinryu has one though. Just check the event missions though, dunno why you're asking here.
>those turn counts (come on instant rate free turn moves aren't infinite)
>that damage
What's the secret to big dick damage?
>hit 700k gems a while back
>go into monk mode saving
>back up to 950k
>might have a cool 1 mil going into Re-Shinryu
>also have 2 BTs worth of tokens saved
Feels good, man
Meanwhile, I've got just over 100k saved up and 1 BTs worth of tokens. But I have every BT released so far.
And then there's me, with 60k gems, just a few BT tokens shy of 50 and missing countless BTs, at least in the double digits.
Managed to scrounge up 79 tickets, and 60 of them got me Snow's FR (after dumping around 200 into that banner already), so at least I'm keeping up on FRs except for the 4 I skipped wayyy back that never, ever got rerun either because global axed their rerun banner or they haven't even got one in JP. If you're curious, they're Lilisette, Kuja, Maria and Llyud.
>so at least I'm keeping up on FRs except for the 4 I skipped wayyy back that never, ever got rerun
Same, except mine are Kuja, Krile, Desch, and Vayne
>But I have every BT released so far.
Damn, that's impressive. I'm missing half of them, but I do pull for every BT that I actually like want want
I'm constantly broke too because I don't know how to walk away from a banner (I've got 110k right now and that's the most I've had at once in a long time). My BT luck's been terrible ever since they started giving them to everyone, but I've got a good record with FRs. I'm missing 23 BTs, but the only FRs I don't have are Relm, Ciaran, and Llyud.
Some of you guys must have crazy luck. I'm missing 34 BTs and 11 FRs.
Are there any stickers or voicelines at all that i can use to tell someone to swap to a bonus unit or hint at it? Im just trying to finish the Jessie coop shop before, i dont care what unit they use or if they even have anything equipped on them, it just has to be a bonus unit
you can try using the finger sticker and point it at the at the header that should say "Wanted: Boosted Characters"
Oh thats a good one. Thanks
>get FRs or BTs
>don't have the mats to upgrade or don't want to use the scarce amount in order to save them for faves
Alas.
>Luck out a new FR/BT that I planned to skip
>Immediately max them out
>Never use the character outside of debut event
>Refuse to elaborate
>Leave
>Luck out another FR/BT
>Edge, Yang, Galuf, Maria, Seven, Freya, Gau, Shelke, Sice
BTs when
At this rate of power creep they better give Sice 3 HP dumps for Tornado.
Meanwhile Ace will still have only 1 HP dump on his Cards.
Speaking of, didn't they give Minwu's traps one more HP dump to both?
Yes. Gladio will also get another on his counter IIRC.
>Speaking of
Minwu's regular traps went from 1 -> 2
Minwu's special trap went from 3 -> 5
But there is no "speaking of". I feel like I explain this way too often. They're not the same, like, at all. Cor didn't get extra HP attacks on his preempt/follow up. Kain didn't get extra HP attacks on his spears. Freya might, actually, but even she might not. Sice and Ace traps are more comparable to Cor or Kain or Freya than they are to actual traps, since they trigger on every enemy, every field turn (except inside of Burst). They are fundamentally different. They have different triggers, and Team Ninjas has shown time and again that those two fundamentally different abilities have different power levels. A Sice/Ace trap on 2 targets is the same as Cor/Kain. It's actually in most cases slightly better, because you can very often get it to hit as if it's 1 full HP attack per enemy instead of 1 full with 50% splash, and in those cases it functions as "2 full HP attacks per field turn" which is better than what Cor and Kain get, and is definitely better on 3 targets
...mate, I'm only asked because I remembered that and got curious if I was right or wrong, so I just took the chance to ask at once, I wasn't trying to compare them.
After Cyan
Considering how much favoritism the game shows Seifer in the storyline, I figured he'd be one of the first non-protagonist/villains to get a BT but he's still waiting for a bite.
I need my counter-Zantetsuken BT, it has to be that.
If it's not, I'm going to be very upset.
Cool as that would look, I'd be annoyed if they give him a counter on his BT considering he's a delayer/debuffer. Ideally, I'd like him to get backup from Galbadia Garden, maybe getting a follow-up where dudes on motorcycles run the enemy down whenever someone delays an enemy.
Yeah I don't think a counter attack would work on him. He needs the animation at least.
I could see them sneaking a reference in to his FR animation. Like have Kadaj or Kam'lanaut or someone show up and fire a shot at one enemy, "accidentally" targeting Seifer as well- then the counter goes off as splits the attack in two, causing it to hit all enemies in the process.
Make the animation Odin charging only to get sliced and the enemy target is caught in the middle, the counter is the post-BT effect a la Edge.
>no Thursday event (as is usual for a Monday event)
>no Thanksgiving event/release to bring in Black Friday/Cyber Monday stuff
I guess it's going to be Sunday then. They usually dedicate like 2 or 3 slides to brand new shit being added to the game, and Memorial Battles should be happening now. I figure most people already know about this stuff, but it's going to be so much different than it normally is
>doing a Spiritus shinryu (diabolos) for the first time in a long while
>forgot how much fricking HP they have
Even with 999% with big attacks for like 2~3 turns that drop in health was way too small per attack.
If anything is a problem, it's the HP gates. The Spiritus fight "only" has as much HP as some of the lvl 3 crystal quests do (380 mil spiritus vs 375 mil on what is currently the high end of the crystal quest enemies)
Keiss rework soon
>wanted to use my last set of BT tokens on Arciela, but they moved her banner so far back that I couldn't
>next set of BT tokens expire in 2 weeks
Hopefully I will be able to get Keiss, Faris, or Gladio with these. It doesn't look like they're going to be able to stretch to Rydia
Faris is that close? I'm gonna use mine on hers, then hopefully I'll be back up to 85k or 90k gems before Rufus arrives.
Going in JP release order it's Irvine, Cait Sith, Amarant, Keiss, Ultimecia and then Faris. Depending on what they do with the schedule, it's possible we'll see her release next month. Definitely by early January at the latest.
>Faris is that close?
see
Well, Arciela *was* close enough for me to use my tokens on her and then the schedule changed so no she wasn't, but Faris is in the cards for things that happen next month. Memorial Battle 1 and Irvine are not pictured here, so those need to happen also
>over 1 week with no content
>there wont even be a stream for it
>it will be well after Thanksgiving and Black Friday
bros...
Good, they really crunched out too many overlapping events and coops this past month.
We've had long gaps before, but this just feels weird because of how many events were released so close together. I guess they figured that between the Spiritus, Jessie's LC with the absurdly grindy co-op shop, and Arciela's event, we'd have enough content to last us through Thanksgiving while the staff went on vacation. I would have put Jessie's LC at the end. I definitely grinded that out more than I wanted to just so I would have it done before Arciela, whose missions were easy to knock out in two sittings.
I also would have liked the infographics up earlier. Even if they told us we weren't getting any new content for almost two weeks, that's still better than going two weeks not knowing what's next.
Bad time for me to buy the pass.
Welp, guess I will have to delay my Moogle Pass renewal more than expected.
Yeah, I get the suspicion that the reason we sped up is so they can hit EoS on both versions at the same time, and I get the idea it won't be long.
>I get the suspicion that the reason we sped up is so they can hit EoS on both versions at the same time
Obviously the reason for the speed up is so that they can put JP and GL on the same schedule, removing GL foresight (increasing spending?) and also lowering production costs due to simultaneous event schedule, especially if they can get it on the same client. That's always the reason for this type of thing. I've thought since it was first announced that it would sync up around the anniversary, but I don't think that every character will have gotten a BTFR by then, and at this point I do think that every character (except maybe the XIV ones) will get a BTFR before EoS
I don't understand why the super late content or why ~~*39*~~ Relics of All Knowledge though. The super late content could be some JP simul release like Papalymo was? But I'm completely stumped on 39. Why not 30? Why not 40? Is 39 a fatfinger, or is it intentional? Why the Relics at all? Why such a large number of them?
>removing GL foresight (increasing spending?)
GL foresight does not do anything in this game. The only thing that jumbling the schedule did these past 3 months was make bosses rubber band between 400 million hp and 200 million and back. Maybe a few people got fricked on BT token expirations.
>being able to plan your pulls months in advance does nothing
>shuffling a known schedule is the same as removing foresight entirely
The pool of possible characters is dwindling, and thus process of elimination becomes more accurate, but otherwise I completely disagree
>Notice I still never got Y'shtola's BT
What are some weapons that have completely eluded you over time, despite multiple reruns and the sheer age of them? Is there anyone who still somehow doesn't have Squall's BT for example?
Still don’t have Exdeaths LD, despite having his BT and everything else. At some point I even debated on selling the BT for tokens because of how long iv had it.
I don't have Noctis BT. I don't have Squall either, but I feel like I should have Noctis BT by now, whereas I do not feel this way about Squall. Haven't directly pulled with the intention of acquiring either one of those, but that's my answer to your question. Noctis
Lightning's I guess since she's part of the Start Dash trio with Cloud and Squall (and I have both of their full kits).
wat
Games down. What's going on? Why are they doing maintenance right now at peak play hours?
Anniversary EoS
Well shit. Had a feeling it was coming soon. That's pretty disappointing.
>EoS before Cinque's BT
>Agrias got an amazing BT shortly before EoS
>Rikku is forever scrapped
So, they're not releasing any of JPs BT/FRs and characters? Just four months of recycled content?
They had better let me get Rufus or I'm gonna be upset.
>so close to being able to get Rydia BT
>they aren't going to release her
What the frick, just put her BT in the shop and let me buy it with tokens or something, shit
Former /drag/ here, sorry for your loss folks. Always feels bad.Love it while you can the next 3 months.
Whoa.
Day 1, Hour 1 player here. Had a good run I suppose. Bought 2 skins, so dropped around a hundred bucks over the years, I'm fine with that.
To those who from /ffg/ who played co-op with me back in the day when it was actually fun and not just "press LD/FR 3 times", thanks for the memories.
Been reading these words on at least a weekly basis for years now. If you're the OG memester, you finally made it!
>no Cyan BT
>no Umaro
These were the two things I wanted most before EoS. And there was always the wild hope we'd get Benjamin as a global first.
Where's the story at in JP? Will they at least finish it?
>finally get Tactics stuff
>Squall never got his Lionheart
>All those other charcters that never got a FR or BT
T_T. Is this just a global shutdown? Is JP still going?
GL and JP EoS.
Both at the same time. Another anon above suggested the story will get a final cutscene among the ones on YouTube, but I have seen nothing conforming this.
>Another anon above suggested the story will get a final cutscene among the ones on YouTube, but I have seen nothing conforming this.
I think I'm really the only person who read the notices
Nothing there says that they'll be releasing an actual ending cutscene. I think you need to brush up on your reading skills instead of bragging.
>I think you need to brush up on your reading skills instead of bragging.
Anon, I'm the only person in this thread who seems to have read the in game notices, so your paraphrasing ("Another anon above suggested the story will get a final cutscene among the ones on YouTube") almost certainly came from something that I said, and I've only ever said what is in this notice
bump
OO IS A FRICKING DEAD GAME!
Overview of events leading up until the end of service.
It's nice to have a little "best of" before the end but not gonna lie, it's a little discouraging to play now, knowing that the game is dead, even though I like it so much.
I haven't made it through all the notices yet, but damn they had a lot of stickers they didn't give us yet
Kino, OO isn't going to be a lame EoS
Hey look, the servers are merging after all
breddy cool
Give me Eiko's BT and FR already. Don't make me wait. I want to be able to play with her for more than just a couple of days.
Providence cores in the daily login
Vanille Chads, our BT? FR? Rework?
gotta have to wait for DFFOO 2 after Ever Crisis get the EoS
It's time to finally start using this shit I guess
>was extremely close to buying the costume token thing
>than this happened
Phew, goddamn that was a close one.
So post how much you’ve spent on the game. Iv only ever bought the mog pass twice, and the premium pass once (when we had a bunch of event running at the same time).
I've whaled on RK, OO, dolphined on WotV and BE. Have not touched EC just yet.
You're welcome.
I only spent $5 for the mogpass when they fricked up the summons and had 2 months worth of events at the same time. In the end, I still haven't used those Enhancement Points
Bought every big mog pass, so that's like $40 a month for ~2 years. Bought 30 costumes. Bought every weapon gloss. So off hand I'd guess I spent about 2.5k?
Christ… Well uh.. start taking screenshots to keep at least.
If the costumes were $10-15 and I could fit three on a gift card I would have bit a long time ago.
Bought Cloud's, Aranea's and Celes' outfit and several of the cheap mog passes.
Any word on the livestream that was supposed to be tomorrow? Canceled?
Guess there's no point in logging in anymore. All the characters I grinded will be unnacessible and there's no reason to grind the others. I hate mobile gaming. But I do loved this game visuals and fornat.
Well that’s kinda said. I wasn’t looking forward to the comeback of lufenia orbs and all the bullshit of the new difficulty but still, kinda sucks. Kinda had fun with the game too despite everything
Yup, same. I just want the banners. Give us the same characters JP has at least, shit, man. I have wanted Rydia BT for so long
>literally said the last live stream that there’s nothing to worry about and there’s no bad news
Can’t fricking trust ANYONE
JOSHUA LIED OO DIED
War never changes, anon.
Didn't the devs say in an interview at one point that they planned on making an offline version after the game ends? Or was that a different FF gatcha?
They didn't bother making an offline version of Mobius despite that game being perfect for one so who knows
(me)
Pretty sure that's only referring to offline in-app cutscenes. That said, I've been googling around and can't find any mention of any proposed offline version. I was probably thinking of a different game.
What character will remain JP exclusive?
Amarant. Rufus. Xexat. Angeal.
I don't get why they can't just port that shit over. Keep it in Japanese for all I care. I just want my Rydia BT
Literally, physically, mentally, metaphorically, and realistically obliterated, destroyed, BTFO, never fricking ever, finito.
The strongest never ever meme triumphed.
>Brave Exvius outlived
Incredible. Just that fact legitimately makes me upset.
Am I the only one that read the notices?
>we felt that releasing the cutscenes in video form would allow you to enjoy your favorite scenes wherever you want
>We plan to release these videos on YouTube after service concludes
I can look up any cutscene on israelitetube already you knuckledraggers, the entire point of people wanting an offline version of a game is to play the game part.
>$44.95
That would be a great price for OO for all it currently has.
It's Capcom, 2 steps forward, 1.5 steps back.
>Capcom really sold that for almost full retail price
I get your point and your not wrong, but that example is painful to look at
>45 dollars
>1k-ish downloads
Not a bad final payout for turning off multiplayer and jury-rigging the game to offline. Genuinely surprised this doesn't happen more often, especially for big companies/IPs
Most companies would rather move those programmers over to other existing projects than have them do something like that.
The offline version is incredibly tedious with grinding, and you have to suffer through it to actually “buy” unlocks for characters. I’m not paying 45 to suffer with a complete chore.
way more then 1k its on pc too with likely over 25k sales
F for you all. Always heard it was a good game and tried it a bit but never stuck. Crazy it was making so little even on JP I guess ever crisis sucked the air out of the room.
>Crazy it was making so little even on JP I guess ever crisis sucked the air out of the room.
GL was making 2-3x was JP was making for a long while now. OO probably got the axe due to Ever Crisis, but the downward trend began with the newest game mode (Shinryu) which has been going on for about a year and a half now. It's just very unfun and also does not encourage pulling the same way the previous, much more engaging game mode did (Lufenia)
Josh appears. Maybe one last stream, maybe not.
They also knew way ahead of time.
Someone beg him to relay to the dev team to just copy and paste the BTs and FRs over in Japanese, who gives a shit. I just want to play with the new toys, and I dont' want to download a JP EoS game to do it
Won’t matter anon, he’s not even a mouthpiece anymore at this point, probably already got his 2 weeks notice.
He's still going to keep working for Square, they're just going to move him to another project.
>They also knew way ahead of time.
This basically confirms the sped up, goddamn.
I've been very tolerant to previous mobile's EoS from Square because of I have to be honest I believe people are overreacting on the whole things, but this legit feels like they played around with consumer's trust.
I hope Ever Crisis was worth doing this, I guess.
>but this legit feels like they played around with consumer's trust.
Every gacha that has ever EoS'd has known months in advance, even before announcing EoS. This is nothing new, he was just more honest about it
Telling on stream and Discord that everything was fine doesn't feel like being more honest about it to me.
I was referring to the part you quoted. He's still got to do his job, at the end of the day. I assume other gacha games also have live streams where they know for months in advance that the game is EoS and still they soldier on. All live service games EoS
I was preparing myself for this for a while now by looking for "replacement" gachas in case of DFFOO going EoS. I hope Reverse: 1999 will fill the void for me
I'm hoping Heaven Burns Red gets an English version in the near future. I know there's been some rumors and I've generally been happy with the WFS in-house gachas (as opposed to their IP ones).
Game is dead so frick it
Death to all Lufenia+ apologists.
Chaos Era was the only era that was good through it's entirety
It's a shame. JP OO just lost too many whales with the Paid Gem Cap and was never able to recover. In GL OO they delayed the cap and then introduced the multi-tickets. Maybe if they'd done that in JP the game would have been more financially stable.
So... you can just FE50 and Blue/Green your entire roster now if you have the autism to grind it? Kinda cool
>Don't have a round number of BT tokens
>Game won't let me get more and put the rest in the gift box or redeem a BT because of this
Thanks
Post your NEVER EVER
It hurts. Chocobo is all I wanted
M-maybe he'll be in WoFF2?
Refia was in the first one...
Somehow got Ursula and Jihl before EoS
Anyone at all from Dimensions 1&2
I just wanted Eiko's BT and FR. I was really happy to see that she got them but now I won't be able to. I guess I can download the JP version and get them, but it just won't be the same.
It fricking hurts doesn't it? I was waiting for Rufus since the game started. I feel like it might have been better if he hadn't been released, than to release him but not let any of the GL players get him.
>I guess I can download the JP version and get them, but it just won't be the same.
Yeah, I'm not really excited about the prospect of downloading an EoS game and then essentially rebuilding an account in a language that I don't understand just to be able to click 1 or 2 more buttons on my favorite characters
Kelger was my go-to "Characters that will make it in before Rikku" shitpost material, and I still can't believe he actually made it in.
I just wanted Zenos at this point really, my White Whale was Beatrix and I got to enjoy her for a good time
Rydia's BT, unfortunately. Benjamin from Mystic Quest is another. Or LeBreau. Or Rikku
That's one mad Rydia.
whatever happened to that cliffhanger ending? was WoFF so bad they scrapped plans for a sequel?
They've got plans for a sequel but the WoFF gacha died before they could harvest enough money money for it.
For me, it's Agrias. I'm sure people are sick of me bringing this up, but I started playing the game during her debut so she had sentimental value as a character to me. For her to finally get a really good BT/FR, and then finding out I'll never get to use it, is what hurts most about this announcement.
Got her BT not FR on her old banner. But latest character draw has her banner which given free draws on each. So the accumulated 300 coin FR shop was used on her. EASY free FR.
Now I can use her even though she is not even fully built. I like it when her paralysis proacts.
What
posted. Were not even getting the shitty looking if effective BT. Im still bewildered that she never even got an outfit, that just straight up makes no sense.
I basically played this game for Rydia despite the weird stupid descisions they did with her. But it was a fun ride and getting another 3D Rydia was neat.
I wanted LeBlanc
Still have hope
Nyx
Aria
Joshua
It's a sad day. I know they aren't planning on doing an online version, but being that this is part of the Dissidia canon, hopefully they can do something with it later. Future generations need to be able to see the Kadaj redemption arc and recoil in wondering who the hell Layle is and how he got in before Lightning.
I dumped all my gems on the XV/Type-0 banner since I was missing the most BTs there. Of course, the only one I got was one I already had, but it's nice to be able to pick up some of the characters I missed recently. I'll still be playing until the servers close.
Damn. I was hoping for Clive, Zenos, and other spinoff Final Fantasy characters to appear in DFFOO.
Any idea what we're supposed to do to get those "Weekly reading" missions done? I get what some of them are a reference to (I even have a screenshot of the cutscene with that "You guys having a costume party?" line), but I guess you just have to watch the cutscene it's referencing? I'm definitely gonna go through Memoria Theater again anyway.
is it possible they could save these models for another FF game? seems kind of a waste to throw away after EoS. I haven't gotten through Act I yet. at least I could view that tonberry troupe site or database to read the dialogue.
No chance. The game is run by Team Ninja, not Square Enix. Team Ninja can't do anything with the models without Square's permission, but likewise Square would need Team Ninja's permission if it wanted to do anything. I can't see either side wanting to bother enough to try and use those models. If either company wants to make a new Dissidia gacha, they'll be making new models for it.
>they took the tickets out of the cactuar token shop
you think they'll release an artbook?
Unlikely. There's no point in promoting a dead game.
So who is your favorite character gameplay wise?
Now that we can max whoever we want, which character did you have the most fun with?
Zidane. Always has been.
Probably Dorgann. Watching him do his shit twice a turn was always satisfying.
Yeah, I'll probably go with Dorgann too. I didn't think I would like a follow up animation as much as I ended up liking his
Rydia will always be my vidya waifu and she had a fair enough shake, but whenever Shelke was viable I had the most fun in the game playing with her. Ursula too.
On the guy's side I liked Ceodore and Ace and of course Galuf.
Surprisingly Cor. I didn't give a rats ass about him on release but he ended up being insanely fun to use on pretty much every team, whether a rush down team, an off-turn team or anything else. I probably ended up using him more than anyone else.
Mog gets a special mention though. He has my absolute favorite animations. His EX is the same pose from the box art for FF6. His LD summons up an army of moogles, and his LD is fun with him high-fiving Krile. I didn't use him too much, but I always had fun when I did.
Yda smashing the shit out of Shinryuu with her LD at 999% and Luna LDCA.
Eald'narche and Dorgann
Unironically, counter characters or characters with lots of changing skills like Alisae.
I'll forever be sad Alisaie never got an update, she would've been so fun with BTFR
She wasn't as fun after getting her LD. I missed having to keep her MMO rotation in mind. I'm sure her BT would have locked her stacks and just let her spam Redoublement every turn.
>I'm sure her BT would have locked her stacks and just let her spam Redoublement every turn.
kek that's honestly pretty faithful to XIV, considering you can do 3 melee combos in a row now in Endwalker
Rydia is GOATed, even if her kit was frickin nonsensical when it worked it worked.
Also her LD fight was probably the funniest fight in the game.
Different characters shined hard throughout the game but I cant think of a character that made content so much easier when she showed up than Aranea did, her bullshit when she showed up was hilarious.
She's my favorite character and it was fun absolutely shitting all over Cosmos once she showed up.
Honestly a lot of why i had quit was because of how totally unusable she was in Chaos.
Rem was a ton of fun too, being able to give someone a turn was always cool.
Enna and Cor
Jack, Neon and Astos. Joined the game when Jack came out, pretty much.
>dorgann,kelgar,and xezat finally playable
>shuts down in 2024
i hope SE has plans for an FFV prequel.
Damn.
I hope you guys didn't already spend all your gems if you're still playing. You can just buy all the UWs you want
The BT Tokens are worth more to me than that since I've been buying the Whale Pass from day 1.
Thanks for keeping the game alive as long as you did
One thing I learned from this: never ever play square enix gachas again, definitely don't even play ever crisis
Bro, OO lasted 6/7 years (GL/JP)
That's insanely good for a gacha game, especially one that was as f2p generous as OO was
Ehh, I'm a sucker. If they end up bringing some of my favorite characters into a gacha I'll pick it up. Fortunately my favorite characters tend to be secondary party members, so it's unlikely they'll be added to any newer gachas anytime soon.
How the frick did kings raid outlive this game
Explain that.
Not by SE. You should learn your lesson.
>ever crisis
Just look at christmas Tifa. There isn't even fanservice in that garbage game only grind.
>at 46/50 BT Tokens
>can't buy more because they won't transfer an overflow
>"oh, I know, I'll sell a BT I've maxed, maybe that will-"
>can't sell any BT's
how do I fix this
>>can't sell any BT's
Do you have them all booked and/or greened? Can you pull another BT?
no as in it physically won't let me, I unlocked it and no one has it equipped and everything, and it just will not let me
I pulled an Ultimecia BT on the free pulls and I was able to sell it and it went to my mailbox, but it was all 5 tokens that went to my mailbox. Fricked up if you can't sell a BT to fix it
I've tried that on a couple of different BTs and they all just give me a buzz like "no you can't do that" so I don't fricking know, is it because I have 46/50 and the 5 they give would put me over that limit too? I just wanna spend on new fancy toys man
Cactaur tokens?
Really hope FF9 gets a remake in the near future. I'm gonna miss my bro Steiner, the rat and the brat, and they're not in any other gachas I'd like to play.
they've been pushing FF9 in a noticeable manner, I actually expect one in the future.
What a thing to wake up to.
Well, I was only missing 6 FR weapons (Hope, Sice, Krile, Desch, Sabin, Faris) and I have them now, so I guess all that's left is to max absolutely everyone before the end.
So that's it then. No level cap 100, no new BTS/FRs, no Rikku, no Red XIII, no new Tactics characters, the last couple of ones in JP will be locked there and the story isn't even allowed to be concluded like SinoAlice.
Considering the last factor, what's even the point of releasing the cutscenes on YouTube if it's an incomplete story?
See
They'll be translating everything and putting it up for GL players to view. Act 4 Chapter 9 part 1 will release in JP in the middle of January and then Act 4 Chapter 9 part 2, which will be the final story chapter in Opera Omnia, will be releasing January 31.
That's a bit better I guess, but it's still incomplete, is it that hard to make one last cutscene during these months that says "we're free to come back to our worlds, bye"?
I mean that'll probably be how the game will end, unless they decide to use it to set up the next Dissidia game. JP will get it. GL gets the shaft , but when it comes to gachas, GL almost always gets the shaft compared to JP. Still, I I can't be too salty because OO was better than most. It's pretty much the only game I can think of where GL got extensive, unique content (like Abyss) that the JP version of the game never had. I can't think of any other gacha where that happened.
>It's pretty much the only game I can think of where GL got extensive, unique content (like Abyss) that the JP version of the game never had. I can't think of any other gacha where that happened.
There are also numerous QoL that GL has which JP does not, like the party screen after beating the level or the BRV numbers being able to be turned off
>See one of the D2D stages is Braska's Final Aeon
>"Yuri and Jack should be able to handle this. I'll throw Nine in for some protection. Why not?"
>They have WAY more health than they used to
This is gonna be rough, especially since there are gonna be 27 stages with lockouts affecting all of them. The Jecht fight is mechanically tough, too. I don't want to burn Cater or Kelger here already, but they're among the few characters that have an easy time with it.
Now I'm totally free from gacha hell.
The FF7 gacha looks like shit and I will not bother to play that. While I dropped FFBE 3 years ago as a day 1 player. Too bad, I really liked DFFOO.
Just heard the news, sorry for your loss. All things considered, I'd say the game had a pretty good run round here. Can't say I'll miss it like I do Mobius. Man, it feels like every FF gacha not made by Gumi is doomed to die at some point...
I'm more baffled that the two Brave Exvius games are still going despite having not that high numbers.
>wake up
>game's dead
Well, I guess it's time to burn some of these multi-draw tickets. I've been saving because I wanted literally every BT coming up after Arciela. Funny we won't be getting any of them.
>I've been saving because I wanted literally every BT coming up after Arciela
Yup, same. It's some bullshit.
Damn, I'm kind of depressed. I'll need to find a new gacha to play.
owari da...i started late but its one of the guilty pleasure of all other gacha games had. ity feels so godo to spam shit ton of damage and seeing numbers pop up
So with the game shutting down, what are some other gachas that can fill the turn-based RPG, F2P friendly niche? I've seen some praise for Another Eden. I've heard some mixed stuff about Star Rail. Anything else I should look into?
Dont hurt yourself anon.
Another Eden has shit rates, Octopath Traveler has shit rates even if its a good "game" (dropped it today because of OO EoS), and Star Rail makes you read ALL the story to be able to participate in events, and as a day 1 player who logins everyday and wastes stamina, I'm still 3 patches behind in story and can't do any new event since I'm not up to date in story. I've been playing gachas since 2014 and there is not a single gacha I can recommend that is safe from EoS (RomaSaga GL is another possible sudden EoS, and its the only english good one that I could recommend).
If you like games go for them, maybe you have a big backlog and now its the time to get into it and start playing games that maybe you were missing and could be your new favourite game, who knows.
>star rail
you like anime style this is it. freebies currecny is on stingy side but you can clear the game F2P provide you grind enough
>another eden
they dont give you any free currency aside from daily. but you can play the game like a true stand alone rpg. its just that with OP characters you are able to clear everything faster
try Romancing saga its pretty generous on freemiuns. or FFBE but knowing squareenix i think it might be on the next chopping block. also do try Reverse 1999 but it resembles FGO
Star Rail is a joke compared to OO. There's 2 buttons. The rates are pic related; you have practically a 0% chance to pull anything until you hit soft pity, and the advertised rates factor these tapered rates in. It's an atrocious business practice, and they also force you to listen to their story, which is not very good
Another Eden is okay, but I still don't think I'd recommend it. Try them if you want, of course, but I do not endorse either one. I'm gonna ride OO to EoS, and then I think I might be done with gacha, unless something comes out in the future that looks really good. I hope not, because I'd rather be done with gacha. Buriedbornes is probably the only game I'll ever have on my phone. There is a Buriedbornes 2 coming out sometime in the next few months. I don't know anything about it, but the first one is a fun little game, but it's not really a gacha, just a free mobile game (with Steam client now)
>Buriedbornes is probably the only game I'll ever have on my phone. There is a Buriedbornes 2 coming out sometime in the next few months. I don't know anything about it, but the first one is a fun little game, but it's not really a gacha, just a free mobile game (with Steam client now)
Never heard of this until reading this post, googled it, looks cool.
The only one I could possibly recommend that fits the bill is Romancing SaGa Re;univerSe, which has been my #1 mobage since global launched. I've tried almost all SE mobage and a lot of other ones from other companies, yes I have a problem.
Coincidentally, global's 3.5Y anniversary celebrations and a massive overhaul of the game to consolidate things and make things simpler/better for everyone (especially new players) is starting on Dec 1, the big update maintenance starts tonight. Head over to the thread for it on /vmg/ if you want more info.
It's pretty generous and global's one of the rare cases where it's better than JP like OO is (was) due to QoL and global exclusive buffs to almost everyone released. Some characters were even given mechanics that don't even exist in JP afaik.
The hard content is pretty fun and challenging and they don't gate notable rewards behind it so it's mostly there for people who wanna have fun tryharding. That said, if you want to take it on, expect lots and lots of autofarming. As in, it killed my last phone's battery and now I macro the grind on PC.
Lmfao no Rikku for you
Well shit. At least I got Selh'teus I guess...
EoS ? I just reinstalled the game and I'd started playing it not long ago. I was just 3 chapters in but could feel the potential of the battle system for harder battles.
What the frick, I thought the game was one of SE's most popular gachas and that the player count was particularly good.
How would an offline version work? They did that for Dark Road but I tried it and it's pretty barebone and incredibly grindy to progress story, so much so that I dropped it.
Is this the end for Dissidia as a series with how much criticism NT received as well?
Unfortunately no, OO is Square's lowest performing gacha. JP lost a ton of whales with the paid gem cap debacle and GL has basically been carrying the game since. It was only a matter of time before the game EOS'd, I just didn't think it would be this soon, and I thought they'd at least get the rest of the content out to GL.
We'll see if it's the end of the franchise on January 31st when the final chapter releases. Either they'll use it to set up for a future Dissidia game, or they'll straight end the Dissidia storyline.
>no offline
this fricking sucks man, hopefully someone gives this game the dragalia lost treatment. backup all assets just in case.
Holy shit what a news to wake up to. We were so close to catching up to JP.
I really thought they'd get us caught up and then announce EoS simultaneously. Kind of feels like a kick in the stomach to just stop where GL where they did.
Let's laugh at the morons hoarding resources.
Lol, lmao
https://arch.b4k.co/vmg/thread/1215206/#1215415
I was correct
Just one new things even since
>JP BE added NV+ awakening for some units (actually quite trivial, you just clear an easy new dungeon that gives a blue pearl upgrade material) and a way to spend excess NV shards from old units to upgrade them (the units are real old so the upgrades are far from making them meta)
>Ever Crisis released with big profits...and already lost much of it in less than 3 months, game way too grindy with forced coop and some players are already having difficulty filling the coop rooms.
I'll have to stand corrected on the offline OO part. FF16 and sequel are still up in the air though.
Anyway likely RK next, they may want to be nice and finish the new magicite fights for the still missing elements before EoS. I'm interested how much their golden child FF7 lasts with EC after what happened with First Soldier
I'll keep my eyes peeled for a new game. I do like the Final Fantasy characters and settings. I can't get into WotV because the FF characters are basically just paper dolls who don't take party in the story. Same thing with BE. Ever Crisis could be cool, but being limited to FF7 kind of kills it for me, especially with the super slow rate that they're rolling out characters (likely because they're limited to such an incredibly small cast).
What killed EC for me was the ENDLESS grind. I don't mind a bit of grind, but that game had no goal, only more grinding.
Well shit. The only Gacha I played daily since release JP. Accomplished basically everything for free. And that was the bane. They weren’t greedy enough. Hurts knowing it’s just going to become inaccessible.
I got nothing now. EC sucks too hard.
>providence cores for sale
>released a ton of planned stickers at once
Sheeit
Oh, so NOW the game fricking dies when I get Arci's BT??
At least you got her BT. Imagine if it had EoS'd on Snow's banner.
For someone that never had any real interest in FF, like I didnt have a list of characters that I love, nor really any fond memories, didn't grow up with the series since I had even less interest back than, it actually kinda hurts to see the game go. I enjoyed it's gameplay and also liked to see characters interact or watch the story play, even if I had no background context. Something about the game was just enough to keep me playing and interested, unlike most others. Welp, rest in peace, 6 years is an ok enough, you'll be missed.
How many of you will roll over and play the next gatcha shit, just to have the door closed on your dick again and again?
Take the pledge today to never play another gacha game. Ignore the shills, the horny, and all the obsessive posting of its fans. Think of all the time you'd have to do things that matter, like pursuing knowledge or a hobby that's fulfilling. Don't sink hours of your youth into a pit that will leave you with nothing. All Games-as-a-Service will betray you.
Literally all video games and entertainment media ever, live service or not. But thanks anyways, crazy preacher on the corner of the road anon.
Every game eventually has an ending. The difference between something like OO and something like FF8 is that OO had years and years worth of content to play. I'm sure you put way, way more time into OO than you do into any single FF game. Both of them ended, just one of them was a much longer journey.
Daily logins, daily chores, checklist gameplay, grind the event before it expires, content drip, $40 skins, wow what a journey. I think you mistake grind-padding for content worth playing.
I question if you've even played a non-mobile FF game before, because this game has far less meaningful content than any mainline FF. Regardless, any non-service game you can sit down and play at any time you want. You can spend hours in any game and still have your character, etc. so don't pretend to have a point.
Your only argument is that "you own the game, not like this game". Unless a game has replayability like a branching storyline, who in their right minds goes back to replay a game after fully beating it? Even 5 years, 10 years later, you won't get that experience again and you'll get bored halfway in because your doing the same thing over again while also being spoiled of every twist and turn.
Also an RPG not being padded out with grinding and useless sidequests for hours? Lmao have YOU played a mainline FF? You could be a total normies and tell me you've only played FF7R, and you'd still be lying lol. Don't bother yourself really, people enjoyed a thing and your confounded by it just cuz, you're on your own.
>Take the pledge today to never play another gacha game.
I don't know if I'm taking the "pledge" to never play gacha again, but I do hope that nothing out there ever catches my eye. Opera Omnia was my first gacha game. For years I refused to download OO because it was a gacha game. Then eventually I got bored and open enough to download it, and it turned out to be actually fricking good, holy shit.
That was the worst thing that could have happened though, because since OO was good, I started trying out other gachas, thinking that other gachas might also be good. They're not. OO is the only good gacha game. OO opened the door for me to a bleak world of darkness, but because OO was good it gave me hope that there might be another gem out there as shiny as OO, but there isn't. I've tried dozens of gachas trying to chase the OO high, and it just doesn't exist outside of OO
I don't might the games as a service thing, since I don't really replay games very often anyway. To me, most games already "die" after I finish them for the first time. As much as I might wish that OO wasn't going to EoS, I'm not disappointed in the same way that you are that it has reached that point. I'm more disappointed that OO gave me hope that other gacha games might be good, when OO was the only good one out of all of them. Lemme tell you, if OO was your first gacha game, it is nearly fricking impossible to be able to enjoy any other gacha out there, which I suppose is a good thing, but still it's a weird dystopia
I'm pretty lucky there. I did the same thing, but my thoughts were, "Opera Omnia, really fun. Maybe I'll check out Fate/Grand Order too." And FGO is so fricking terrible that it put me off trying any other ones.
I don't even play gachas outside of OO, so yeah, owari da...
Got the news from my yt feed this morning and had to stop in to pay my respects. Haven’t played in about a year but if you kept me on your friends list, thanks, I was thinking of eventually coming back but that’s what happens when you wait too long. Farewell OO, you were an alright game sometimes
Welp, that was some news to wake up to...
Frankly, I (and many others I imagine) could see this coming for quite a while, but I was honestly hoping the game would last until at least mid-2024, if nothing else, so we could catch up to JP in terms of current character reworks like Rydia, Eiko, Garland, etc., but as it is those characters, and many others, will forever remain unable to match the current powerlevel (which makes the fact that the last event we will get is a fricking huge DtD feel a bit like a slap in the face), sure everyone has FE50 now, but that isn't gonna be enough for many characters.
Honestly, just sucks that GL will get shafted out of so many reworks and new characters due to the timing of this, but well, GL servers tend to get shafted on most gacha games so it was to be expected I guess.
I will say though, the fact that the only XIV characters to receive a Shinryu rework were the ones that are dead in their OG game feels even more ironic in retrospect same with two of the last few new characters released in JP being VII ones.
Also ironic that the last chaptee we got was one dealing with the "Gift of Mortality", huh.
Fricking hell.
GL Day 1 player here, this really sucks.
Only bought the moogle pass like once or twice, so no real loss for me. But still it's the only gacha I've been playing over the years, this and Dokkan.
All gachashit has the same fate, last time this happened to me was Tales of Link.
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. A shame we'll never see some characters, the Rikku dream is now dead.
Maybe they'll release a new gacha that isn't FF7.
Any point in continuing playing after today?
You're free anon
I'll probably keep playing since EoS, since they added a bunch of stuff to farm now. And there's still the final Anniv.
So no more new characters/FR/BT until EoS?
Checked and nope, nothing.
Because of this, I'm gonna spend my BT tokens that I wanted to spend on Faris on my little DaVinci. Yes, I know she's the worst character the game ever had gameplay-wise but no, I don't care.
>waiting for that lvl 100 cap and rainbow weapons
>never comes
i can still dream
>Added character's portrait for the refine spheres while announcing EoS
Oh well, better late than never I guess.
I wonder if I can 100% every character until EoS.
They should make everything cost 1 gold in all the shops, give everyone enough crystals to max out all crystals, and should have just gave unlimited pulls on those banners they just tossed out.
For someone like me who was always broke, that'd be good. But there are people that still had over two million gems, so giving them a bit of an advantage right at the end is a nice compromise. It isn't a complete "frick you" to hoarders like EoS usually is.
Dunno if anyone cares about those reading missions, but it looks like what you need to do to clear them is use the character who says the line in a mission. I just used Setzer in one of those crystal farming quests and it triggered this one. One of the others was Warrior of Light and I'm pretty sure one is Sazh. I think the other two are Seifer and Serah, but I'm not sure.
>Game makes me read
I've been skipping every single story cut-scene until now.
Can confirm it's WoL, Setzer, Sazh and it's actually not Serah and Seifer, it's Snow and Laguna. Had to comb through Act 1's entire script on the wiki to find that line from Laguna.
So to reiterate, put WoL, Setzer, Sazh, Snow and Laguna on a team and run any quest to complete these weekly story reading quests.
Thanks, I was stuck on the Laguna line. I tried Squall and Seifer but I forgot that Laguna was an early character too.
I'm clearing this last Dare to Defy even if it kills me.
Guess I'll go do the crystal color mission for the latest Spiritus; that was the only bit of content I'd yet to finish. Wait, aren't we missing one Spiritus?
What's the deal with it? I wanna try clearing whatever this EoS D2D stuff they're releasing is.
yes, we'll never get Odin to level 50 now
Sad. Does he do anything funky at level 50, or does his summon attack just hit harder?
There's no crystal color mission for the Spiritus. But yeah, we never got Odin.
The D2D will be 27 missions long, all with persistent lockouts. It's all reruns of other Shinryus, but the Braska's Final Aeon one, at least, got seriously beefed up. Not sure if the newer ones had the same treatment yet.
I went into the first thinking "Neon could solo this back in the day, let's do that" and I promptly got my shit stomped in because it was way more beefy than it was the last time I did it. Suffice to say, they're probably all bulked up to more modern HP pools and you'll have to take them seriously.
>There's no crystal color mission for the Spiritus.
Was talking about this one.
>The D2D will be 27 missions long, all with persistent lockouts.
Where'd you read this? I just logged in and got hit with the notice, it says it features "21 SHINRYU difficulty or higher Astraeus, Nyx and Eos quests. The first 7 Astraeus quests are already unlocked, and Nyx and Eos quests will unock on Jan.1 and Feb. 1 UTC respectively."
So it looks like three sets of 7.
It says right underneath that paragraph that Perfect clears with character restrictions applies across all Astraeys, Nyx, and Eos quests.
Yeah, even the Shantotto one got beefed up despite being released post-Echo, and I think post multiplier retention. I'm way over the turn limit here and can't damage them anymore since I can't deal with their Force Effects. Yeah, I'm using Nine here, but goddamn. I can't use a full party against EVERY mission here- there aren't even 81 characters with Force Echoes and BT+ to do that with!
>It says right underneath that paragraph that Perfect clears with character restrictions applies across all Astraeys, Nyx, and Eos quests.
Sorry for not clarifying, I was talking about the "27 missions" part, since from everything I can see in the notices, there's only 21.
Sorry, my bad. I knew it was 3 sets of 7, but I have no idea where I got the number 27 in my head. Must have fricked up my math without realuzing.
No worries, I just had to check in case something I didn't know about said it was 27.
I did stage 6 with Penelo, Ciaran, and Gladiolus. I do not recommend doing that, it took 4 force times, exactly 55 turns, and the last hit was Gladio's counter.
what’s the second gem next to the FR enhancement, BT? stopped playing awhile ago
Crystal rooms.Basically Ultima Weapons but they apply to every character of a certain crystal color. You also get a few useful passives that apply to all characters of that color, but you can only equip three at a time. Things like, "keep most of your BRV when doing a chase attack during a launch" or "take less damage but your turn rate is decreased." The missions you had to do to get points for it were a pain in the ass, but it was a fun addition.
Is the DtD VII, a Memoria Battle? It doesn't state the level and in the tips section it mentions something about switching parties, which we cannot do.
https://dissidiacompendium.com/events/2530
Griever was the first Memorial battle, so maybe
Yeah, I was wondering why its Force weakness was doing ranged damage with a debuff with Laguna being recommended. But if you assume it's really there to push Irvine, it makes sense.
Sooo how would we go about buying FRs? I understand that pity points are tripled and you can buy FR tokens using them, but is there an infinite source of gems to actually pull with? Are we just relying on the free daily multi to get pity points?
From what I seen, it does seem that way, the only source in gems right now seem to be the event stages available now, so if you didn't have too many gems saved (like me...) then you will have to rely om the free daily Multi.
Only had enough to do 8 multis. BTs are also as difficult to get since the daily raid didnt lower the price of the tokens, nor did they increase the amount of tokens, so its still 200 raid points for 1 single BT coin.
Damn, i was not missing many FR's.
OK, Desch, Sabin, Relm, Seymour, Veyne, and Llyud. Thats it. I really wasn't all that pull-happy either, crazy.
Kinda in the same park, only FRs I'm missing are ones I honestly don't care about (ironically most of them are from characters without FR boards).
BTs on the other hand... yeah...
You can also buy BT tokens.
>Sherlotta reran a thousand different times
>they never released her stickers
Well, Divine boosts are up so looks like I can finally complete those boards at a normal rate.
I think I will be able to buy every BT that I am missing. It will be neat to be able to play like a whale for a few months with a completely maxed out roster, but I'd still rather have the BTs and FRs that were released in JP. It's seriously a steady stream of new BTs and reworks of some of my favorite characters, and I'll never get to use them. I don't really have the conviction to download JP and grind out resources there to play with them
Does JP even get Dare to Defy for EoS? As far as I know, they never got it before. What a weird hodgepodge if GL gets the events, but none of the new BTs/FRs, and JP gets the BTs/FRs, but none of the events
Gl got dare to defy and the abyss events but during covid jp did had rerun event and banners plus they have memorial fights....Frick!!!! I wanted my Redheaded boy so frickin bad... dog whimper.
>all those characters that never got a BT/FR
>and all the ones that did, but that GL will never get
>my boy Gilgamesh never got a modern rework and a FR
They can't keep getting away with throwing him in the dirt.
he did in JP
>would loved to have seen full power (as of late C90 era):
Desch
Emp
WoL
Maria
Xande
Exdeath
Shadow
Selphie
Wakka
Prishe
Gabranth
Vanille
Alisae
Thancred
Prompto
King
Eight
Nine
Sice
Jegran
So, what's everyone's plan right now, I kinda wanna stick to the end, but there's not much I want to do, the DtD seems like it will be way too big of an annoyance with how many stages it has, so I'm not feeling too tempted to try it.
I'm going to math out how I can get every BT, because I think I have enough gems to do it. I'm going to complete every Dare to Defy all the way until the end. I thought that wouldn't be a lot of content, but it's 7 fights per month, which is technically more than we were already getting. I will go down with the ship, and I will do it with fully maxed out characters for the first time literally ever
I'm riding this boat until it sinks. I want to max out all of the characters I have purely because I want to see it through, and try all of the ones I wanted to use but never did. Plus, I do want to try this D2D. It's the final challenge, I might as well put in the effort.
Gonna try the D2D and stick around for the end, but idk if I have the resources for it.
I've been playing since day 1, so I guess I'll stick around until the end. I wanna try maxing out every character and clear as many stages as I can. But I probably won't login everyday now.
I'm going to try to do enough of the DtD to get costumes but if they inflated everything too unrealistically I'm not going to burn my phone out.
Where is this costume shop? I can't find it.
I guess it's only in the second and last waves
I think the costumes will open in the next co-op fight. They're going to roll out a new one in a month and then a third and final one a month after that. The last two shops will have costume tokens you can buy.
The costumes aren't from the DtD, they are from the Token Challenge.
Even better
Brave Exvius outlives another one
It’s incredible honestly. What keeps it going for people? The pixel art? Mind you, the game didn’t have those flashy CGI scenes in its first couple of years. Is being a Brave Frontier clone all it took?
Ariana Grande and Lady GaGa collab literally saved them. It’s what every gacha needs to survive.
but fricking how, it's not fair bros
I kneel. I thought for sure that it would die within a year of WotV's release, but now it might outlive that.
Chinese whales, I presume.
Mobius deserved to live and BE deserved to die.
OO deserves to live and BE deserves to die.
It's not fricking fair.
>2018 - GL launch
>2024 - GL EoS
>2200 - ???
Dissidia OO2 confirmed!
The score reward is 1351, and I can't remember what the initial clear amount was, can't check either as I've cleared all 3.
1.35.1 is the game version number
>2200 is the number of days the game has been running
Oh shid, I would have never thought that
2200 is the number of days the game has been running
So this is the Gift of Mortality Noah mentioned...
>cant solo grind the event because the single player stages dont drop anything
>coop where EVERY character is boosted
Ugh. Really just wanted to slap a macro on and leave the game running to max out my roster.
Is there anywhere to purchase skip tickets? I have ~30, so over the next few days, I'm just gonna hope that a 3x star + all my skip tickets is enough to buy everything I want
Nope, i think they're planning on giving out skip tickets thru login or quest rewards, but im not sure since im not gonna reread all those notices.
>log in to start Dare to Defy
>can't bring myself to do it
I'll try again in a few days
I keep all the abilities and passives from a green'd BT if i sell it, right? I was thinking i can just recycle all the ones i have green to get others i dont have, and then just use gems to buy cores to make all the UW's i need.
I don't think you can sell green BTs.
Bruh, my masterplan...
I'm so sorry anon, maybe they'll change it.
>one of the DtD stages is Minwu's
>he got his FR Boards and rework in JP
>GL will never get it
Nice rubbing in the salt Square.
which coop does everyone do for Dusk to Dawn, Lufenia or Shinryu?
Lufenia. Shinryu doesnt seem that bad with strong characters, but if a moron joins the room who wants to use anyone, you'll pretty much have to leave and join a new one. Lufenia is always the safer bet.
Shinryu, this fight is fricking braindead and the one attempt I saw of people trying to sabotage didn't work cause they're just that weak
Elon Musk PLEASE give funding to the devs to keep it alive.
It's dead, Jim. The best we can hope for is another Team Ninja turn-based gacha.
Just did all 9 free multis. No BTs, only a single FR (dupe). Yup, that about sums up how it's gone.
Same here.
Was hoping I could ger at least one BT I'm missing (specially since I'm still missing like 30), but that kind of banners rarely drop the good stuff, so I wasn't surprised.
Was hoping I could get Arci's BT with the tickets I had left, no luck there either sadly.
I ended up getting Snow's BT. So that's 5 BT tokens haha
I got a couple FRs I think, not that those mattered since I had them all already, and the only BT I got was an Ultimecia dupe. Ulti doesn't even get her FR on GL
21 lockout fights has me paralyzed with indecision.
I don't know if this helps at all, but you can at least plan ahead. If the first "???" is Memorial fight 1, then I assume the others will also be Memorial fights. The remaining Memorial fights are Safer Sephiroth, The Emperor, Kefka, and Shinryu. I wonder who they'll pick. If it was up to Josh, he's probably make one of them be Kefka. I don't really like the Shinryu fight, but I feel like it would be fitting to kill Shinryu (again) as the last thing we do in DFFOO. I'm still kinda bummed that we don't get Re-Shinryu or any of the new BTs and FRs
Interesting. Never got to really find out what those Memorial fights were all about, what a shame. This EoS is coming with a lot of regrets. Speaking of,
>I'm still kinda bummed that we don't get Re-Shinryu or any of the new BTs and FRs
Me too, there were a good number I really wanted like Faris, Rufus, Sabin and Agrias.
Just paid like 15k gems to max one of each UW and it felt like such a hollow accomplishment.
Who are some good characters to bring? It's Kelger's fight so I'm guessing off-turn is the way to go.
You don't even really need off, just have something to neuter them before they do their attack. I usually just bring Raijin and pop it right at the start, and since you start with 50% bar and everyone participating should be FE50, they won't get more than 2 attacks. Could do anything with HP Silence, Brv Freeze, Cor, you name it.
Sounds like it's Setzer time
>I'm still kinda bummed that we don't get Re-Shinryu or any of the new BTs and FRs
Personally, I'm not too bothered from missing out on Re-Shinryu, honestly didn't care about that, I am, however, bummed about not getting the Memorial Battles, Spiritus Odin and all the new BTs and FRs, was hoping we would get at least the ones for currently existing characters, bit alas, that doesn't seem likely (though thinking about it and knowing my luck, I still wouldn't have been able of obtaining them...).
Any other gachas with casual, chill co-ops? I played this with some friends and we'd do co-ops while hanging out on discord.
Sounds like you guys need to find an MMO to play
Don't really have time for an MMO, so a casual gacha where you can do co-ops while focusing on other stuff was best.
Yeah, a game that isn't in English won't work.
I used to ring bells with /ffg/ all the time, but eventually people stopped joining even when I'd announce.
Looking at the state of /ffg/ now, I would rather stay away from there as much as possible.
How casual we talking? And is JP only a big deal? I play Tales of the Rays, which similar to this, is a weapon gacha with a big roster of characters you get from the story. Similar event structure of collectathon events or raid boss events where everyone does damage to the bigger HP bar. The Main Story mode is wrapped up, but a new story game mode was added that basically continues the story with a new cast, and also gives you recaps of different Tales games. Characters dont have any skill tree/summon boards, you just level them and their weapons. No real power creep, new weapons usually give units more options or make them more accessible/good to play as. No PVP whatsoever. The game has been going on for almost 6 years
However, the coop is a game mode that gets turned on and off, usually playable for afew days once every 2ish weeks, and you just fight afew waves of enemies while beating the timer with 3 other players. You collect little emote badges and can even trade them with others if your a collectionist. You can set up private rooms too.
>not ringing bells with /ffg/
>log in to do my daily cactuar run out of habit
oh yeah, the game's dying. Frick. Now I'm sad.
What about sparkles? Are crystal quests infinitely grindable now? Because if so, that's a huge grind I'm not sure I'm ready for, but I do want that final crystal ability, or at least the ability to use more than the first one. It'd be more Shinryu fights than the entire last year crammed into a couple months, you'd need to do multiple level 3 ones every day for over a month if you're f2p.
Same. It's hitting me harder than it did yesterday for some reason. I'm pissed global gets shafted this much, missing out on so much, especially all the characters that got FRs, BTs, echoes and reworks that'll be trapped as trash for the final months.
>What about sparkles?
The Crystal Quest are still weekly but they give a minimun of 7500 sparkles and a maximun of 9000, so grinding them is MUCH faster.
Oh wow, that is huge. Thanks bros, looks like I'll be able to finish the crystal rooms and not have to bust my hump grinding like a madman.
No. Still once a week. But you can get 7500 instead of 7000. The game will be up for 13 weeks. So that'll be 97,500 more points, or enough to max out 5 Crystal Rooms. It won't surprise me if they have crystal points in one of the two up-coming co-op shops.
>Still once a week. But you can get 7500 instead of 7000. The game will be up for 13 weeks. So that'll be 97,500 more points, or enough to max out 5 Crystal Rooms
There are also the 1k sparkles given through login rewards once every 8 days, so it's probably a very even and measured total maxing out of all 6, from zero
Dunno why I thought those new seven banners had a free multi everyday.
No way I'm getting every BT and FR I'm missing until the end with just the big banner.
Same, even jusy getting the ones I'm really interested in will be impossible for me, at most I will be able to get 4~5 but that's about it (if only my luck had been better this past few months...).
Reminder G Tokens for those banners let you trade BT and FR tokens.
300 for 10FR and 80 for 10BT I believe.
Also, they fixed the issue where you couldn't redeem G Tokens if you had more than 40.
I'm aware of that but, sadly, I just don't have enough gems to get enough G Tokens to get enough BT Tokens as to get even half of the BTs I really want (EOS really just had to come right after I had to go full pity for Cissnei).
>I'm pissed global gets shafted this much, missing out on so much, especially all the characters that got FRs, BTs, echoes and reworks that'll be trapped as trash for the final months.
Honestly, I'm torn on that front, on one hand I'm mad that we missed out on so many Character updates and new Characters, not to mention events like Spiritus Odin and Memorial Battles, and the fact that one of the last events we will get is a huge DtD feels like a slap in the face (even more so considering some of the stages so far are of characters that received updates in JP but not in GL like Minwu and Irvine).
But on the other, OO treated it's GL server much better than what I have seen and heard other gachas do with theirs, so I can't really feel too angry about this.
>the fact that one of the last events we will get is a huge DtD feels like a slap in the face
In my opinion Dare to Defy was literally the only fun thing about Shinryu. That, and of course the one Crevasse that we got, but I always felt like Crevasse was a treat that was too good and that Dare to Defy was more in line with what were "deserved". I like that we're getting a huge, 3 part Dare to Defy, and I like that we'll be able to more or less have free reign in that we can have any character maxed out that we want
It would be a 10/10 EoS, if not for the fact that there are a slew of (very good) BTs and FRs that we will never get. If it wasn't for foresight, we wouldn't know they existed, but that's the thing that feels like the slap in the face to me
Dare to Defy was complete garbage and you only like it because you jumped in late in the game from wotv and had no other experiences with the vastly better lockouts in the game. It was such a low effort unbalanced cashgrab compared to anything else that we all saw the writing on the wall as soon as it was announced.
>Dare to Defy was complete garbage and you only like it because you jumped in late in the game from wotv and had no other experiences with the vastly better lockouts in the game
lol what is this projection? I only started WotV after OO, and I never liked WotV. You are expressing /ffg/ levels of schizophrenia right now. And you also cannot read. I said that Dare to Defy was the only fun thing about Shinryu, not necessarily that it was good. Please learn to read, and please learn to be significantly less schizophrenic
>I said that Dare to Defy was the only fun thing about Shinryu
Which is wrong because Six Warrior was the only fun thing about Shinryu.
Echoes kind of ruined it. Iris REALLY ruined it.
What, does Iris' BT effect stay in play even when you switch her out?
No, but you could gauge charge with her, use Revolution and then her BT, and swap her out. Then you swap her in before the enemies got a turn to zero out their stats for basically the entire fight. And it gave you a guaranteed way of making sure her EX went off right after Force Time ended. Iris was an "I win" button for Six Man fights. Her only downside in regular battles is her low/inconsistent damage, but being able to tag her out meant you never had to deal with her weaknesses.
Sure, you can think that. I have no problem with your opinions as long as they aren't schizophrenic, just as long as you have no problem with my opinions. I would have preferred Crevasse, but as I've already said I always felt like Crevasse was a treat that already felt like a weird sort of fluke to get (and I think Dare to Defy is more in the spirit of Shinryu than Crevasse)
Six-Warrior was alright, but I wasn't impressed by any of them. As a challenge, I would only use 3 of the 6 party members, and I still did not enjoy the fights very much. The first 4 of them did nothing, the Steam/Dog fight also did nothing, the FFIV spheres were easily countered by Rydia and/or Balthier (yay Rydia), the Yuffie fight felt like an annoying Yuffie check, and the bugs were beaten easily by Kelger. I actually think I preferred the Prelude Six-Warrior fight to any of the real fights. I will say though that the Six-Warriors were a nice break from the normal game because I could carry the ticket mission character without having to use them, while still using a full team that I actually did want to use. I was able to discover a team I really liked (Minwu/Sice/Celes) due to this, but then again that's also why I liked Dare to Defy; it made me actually look at my roster, and it did not force me to use ticket mission characters
Actually, frick the ticket mission. I think they implemented it originally around Dorgann's banner? So that's a year of being forced to use a character that I probably don't want to use. That killed a lot of my enjoyment, too, and to me that's when the fights really started becoming boxes you checked instead of things you enjoyed
>it made me actually look at my roster
Everyone who says this posted the same clears over and over.
Alright, schizo, whatever you say. Clearly you're not talking to me, you're talking to some boogeyman you've created. It saddens me that you could not leave your schizophrenia on /ffg/, but soon I will never need to interact with you again, nor you with your OO boogeymen
Everyone who says this is mad they "had to pull for m*le characters."
>ratposter OBSESSED with """""schizophrenia"""""
>schizo tripling down on his schizophrenia
I'm not /ffg/'s Freyagay, if that's what your schizophrenia is insinuating. I just used Freya after she got her LD in late Luf+ because her kit was really good. I really liked Freya, Arciela, and Selphie and I used them a lot because I had more fun using LD only units than BT units. Please go back to /ffg/. You don't belong here
They really fricked over veterans by not giving them a single source of gems. Even the login rewards had gems taken out. Like frick bro.
I said it before, but it makes sense to give hoarders some reward for having a bunch of gems instead of just outright giving them the finger. That said, I do hope that the next two co-op shops have gems or G Tokens in them. There's still a couple BTs I want to play around with before EoS.
Yeah, what the frick is the point in having a gacha when no one can spend on the game anymore?
They should've just sent a copy of each BT/FR in the game to everyone's present box. Power tokens cover the 15/35 cp weapons and put EX/LD tokens in the co-op shop.
>I said it before, but it makes sense to give hoarders some reward for having a bunch of gems instead of just outright giving them the finger.
They could've put all the co-op shop stuff in a gem exchange (including EX/LD tokens if they went with my plan), allowing hoarders to skip the tremendous unlimited grind of the final co-op shop and max out the cast asap for no effort. That could be the reward. Just like in normal gachas, where you either wait/grind or spend to get what you want instantly.
Yeah, one last big D2D with a ton of lockouts is the most appropriate send-off we could realistically ask for. Right now the stages are really overturned, but knowing we're expected to have maxed out crystal rooms by the end alleviates that (remember that one of the abilities is just a flat 20% off the enemy's health). Hopefully it'll get even easier to just grab whatever characters we need by the end. For now I'm just grinding the co-op for Force Stones to get all my Echo characters up to FE50 to get ready for it.
How many characters in the game have echoes/FR boards? Talking about global. Starting to plan my D2D teams and wondered if there's enough for 21 teams or if I'll be dragging some of the weaker characters along.
>How many characters in the game have echoes/FR boards?
https://dissidiacompendium.com/characters?filter=true&board5=true
Apparently 81, so it's "enough" (21*3 = 63). However, there are also a handful of characters without FR boards who could function as a decent main FR in conjunction with 2 Echo characters
Cool, thanks! I might try using the "suggested" character (aka Neon for the first one for example), another echo character and try to drag through a favourite who never got their FR board in global for the ones that aren't ??? difficulty but if that's too hard, it's nice to know I can go full echo.
>failed the hp req on the first D2D fight when the boss was at 1%
Wew, Shinryu's gonna make me mad until the very end. They jacked these ogres up like crazy.
Wew, and there we go. 1 down, 20 to go. Was nice to use all faves for a change. Glad to finally have a UW whip for Seven, and let's all pour one out for my main man Cyan. I had him maxed, FE50 and all, before the final update, but he never got that FR/BT I wanted so badly.
>roll 900k gems
>only get 5 BTs
Well that was a lot worse than I was expecting
Sucks, but you should be able to buy over 20 of them with the G Tokens from that.
>free multi gave me only 20 G points
Huh? isn't it supposed to be 60?
Only for the Series Banners, the big daily one only gives 20.
Yeah, I was surprised too, there goes any hope of gettinf the BTs I wanted...
They really said frick you if you werent saving for EOS of all things. Theres really no way to get diamonds.
considering they went out of their way to fix the BT token overflow, I have a mind to think the future co-op rooms might change this too, I could be wrong but they also didn't *have* to do that either
>They really said frick you if you werent saving for EOS of all things
If you weren't "saving for EoS" (i.e. saving for the slew of new BTs that GL had the foresight to know about), it's probably presumed that you already rolled for everything that you wanted. I still think it's a very good EoS. You can grind out literally everything that isn't gems or tickets, you can buy a full 5/5 UWs for like 10k, and we even have stages to use them on. The only bad thing in my eyes about it is that we don't get the new BTs that people were saving for, and instead we are "forced" to use it on BTs that already exist
A glimmer of hope, though: there is still a 50+1 anniversary pull, and there is a slight chance it might be a daily thing, since it's showing as going for the entire month of February
Who did you guys use for the second D2D stage/Braska's Final Aeon? I'll likely slot Braska but I don't have his BT (everything else is maxed). I might've used Auron back when it released, but I'm not sure how he'll deal with the threshold ST petrifies. Can Cater solo?
Cater can't solo, at least in theory. The pagodas have a guaranteed hit BRV+HP if they've been alive for a few turns, and you'll be seeing it with how much HP they have. Maybe if you use Gladio call and rush FR somehow it'll work, but it didn't seem realistic to me. I used Braska, Yuna, and Auron.
Thanks
>I used Braska, Yuna, and Auron.
I think I'll try this, think it's doable without Braska BT? I have all the gear for Yuna and Auron.
Braska's pretty worthless outside of gauge charging without his BT, and Yuna can handle that. This fight shows how weird Shinryu was at the start- their Force Time is nothing to worry about and you don't need a character like Braska just to deal with it. It's the rest of their attacks that are tough. It's up to you if you'd rather take extra damage or extra mitigation. If Auron gets petrified and the enemies get a bunch of turns before Yuna can cleanse him, that could end your run. Having a lot of damage could help speed through with just a Lenna call to block the petrify though.
You could also bring Ignis if you aren't worried about using him too early.
Oh, also remember that Yuna's Force Time can block ailments. I didn't use it since Braska and my BT-less Auron can't hit the conditions, but if you have someone who can, that's a good option.
>This fight shows how weird Shinryu was at the start- their Force Time is nothing to worry about
Was the enemy Force Time ever anything to worry about, though? Off the top of my head, the only Force Times that did anything at all were Bhunivelze (dead if you use melee, not specifically Force Time effect?) and the Odin horse (dead if you give him a turn, not specifically a Force Time effect?). Everything else either did nothing at all, or the Force Time attack was the one single HP attack the boss had that did no damage anyway, or later on it was just healing back the damage you dealt, which was annoying but was never an issue; the closest that it ever came to being an issue was the Reks bugs due to lowish turn count. And you could always beat the enemy to Force Time even without a gauge charger by launching/building summon gauge and spamming S1.
Were there any other fights where the Force Time actually did something?
There are plenty of fights where the enemy Force Time gives them some absurd reductions or post-damage healing which makes it a pain in the ass to deal with them if you can't beat them to it or cancel it out. Not a fight ender, just something you would usually build a team around to avoid putting up with. I'm just saying you don't need to plan around it at all with Braska's Final Aeon.
>I'm just saying you don't need to plan around it at all with Braska's Final Aeon.
Yeah, and I'm saying that I think 90% of all Shinryu fights were like that. Maybe even like 95% or 99%. I don't remember being scared of any Force Times other than the ones I mentioned, but the things I mentioned might not have even been specifically Force Time mechanics, I don't remember exactly. The other fights that actually did something, like Hell House or Shiva Spiritus I remember were not Force Time related.
Hmm, was thinking of saving Ignis for later. I'd rather use him somewhere he can rock out in his damage-dealing stance than his debuff immunity stance.
Maybe I'll try using Yuna's force time and bringing a Lenna call just in case. Looks like Yuna's FR calls for transformed brv/hp attacks. Auron works great with that with his BT's transformed hp attack. Maybe I'll try slotting in Machina to go with it, thanks.
you think they could be planning a new Dissidia and have a new story?
Someone at Square really thought Dissidia would be their ticket to the big e-sports scene so as long as they think of it like that I think the series is dead and buried. Maybe they'll test the waters with a lazy Duodecim remaster at some point and then complain it didn't sell 10 million copies.
FFD Warriors
Yeah, a musou game always seemed like a no-brainer. You've even got the manakins as the random enemy horde.
sorry boomers, musou is a dead genre. fate just released a musou game and it sold like shit. If that IP can't carry a musou game, dissidia definitely can't
Isn't Granblue also about to release what appears to be a Musou/Monster Hunter hybrid? I never understood the appeal of them anyway. I played one of the Dynasty Warriors set up at Walmart one time for like 30 minutes while my parents got groceries, and I think that might be the most empty gaming experience I've ever had
>not enjoying putting your guns on
ngmi
The One Piece musou released 3 years ago just got an update with more content.
>Fate musou
>with no characters people want
That was all on them.
It's fun.
is this game finally unironically EOS?
it was meme'd for years, never thought the day would actually come...
good thing I never spent a dime lmao
Yeah, we got the notice late Tuesday night. We were rapidly catching up to JP for the past few months, and we assumed there was going to be a server merger, but instead the GL devs were just trying to rush out as much content as they could before getting the "pencils down" order, because the game will still be running until February but we aren't getting any new characters or weapons.
Wait, nothing else from the JP side of things is getting in global from here on out?
Right. Arciela FR is the last new banner. Right now we just have around five banners rerunning every character in the game, broken up into different series, and one banner with everything on it that gives you a free 11 pull every day. The series banners need games, but you get 60 G Tokens per 11 pull, the G Tokens count across all banners, and you can exchange them for BT, FR, and LD Tokens. We're getting three co-ops with unlimited resources like BT nuggets and Force Stones for trade- one new one per month. And finally, there's one last big Dare to Defy that'll have a total of 21 stages in it. Almost forgot, but every character also got FE50 as well.
There's nothing new to see, but while the servers are still up the game will be a playground for being able to max out and use any characters you might have missed along the way.
>tfw waiting on Keiss and Gladio
EoS is fine, but this cucking is not.
Did the 3 million gems bro make it to EoS?
there is 100% a Genshin Impact style FF game in the works
Bullshit.
I hope not, because I'd definitely try it out, and I really just want to be done with gacha until a DFFOO clone with better graphics gets released.
It seems that way. They gave everyone FE50, but they did not even give characters like Minwu or Penelo their reworks, which would be stupid easy to implement, so they're probably not translating and porting the new animations for the FRs and BTs either. I think they should copy and paste it and leave it in Japanese if nothing else, but I doubt it's happening.
Just maxed out every weapon I have and all training boards and it's crazy how I'm just missing 6 FRs being F2P.
No idea if I can get all 6 with G Tokens.
On the other hand, I'm missing around 40 BTs.
>Emperor BT rework + FR never ever
I tokened his BT. Sad
Damn, that hurts. Loved using him back in the day, he could've really used that upgrade.
Max everything, 5/5 UWs, stacking BT effects, launching every turn during BT phase, debuffing the enemy with multiple "hp damage taken increased" debuffs, preferably using an FR that gives the party hp damage up and damage limit up as your main force time. Smacking the boss with summon attacks (preferably Brothers) on 999% force time and even shooting them with crystal abilities if you can.
>(come on instant rate free turn moves aren't infinite)
*laughs in Ydaroth/Ultiquina/Zell cheese*
>JP has all the extra toys to play with
>but only GL, without the toys, gets the Dare to Defy
What did they mean by this?
what it means is they didn't want to expend the extra effort for a game that isn't going to make them any more money
Can I get a complete list of all the BTs/FRs JP got that global didn't? I wanna look up their animations and watch 'em on youtube.
I'll try, but I might miss something
BT:
>Angeal, Xezat, Rufus, Amarant, Gladio, Keiss, Agrias, Leon, Cait Sith, Selphie, Rydia, Irvine, Sabin, Faris, Eiko, Hope
FR:
>Angeal, Xezat, Rufus, Amarant, Gladio, Keiss, Ultimecia, Garland, Paladin Cecil, Agrias, Leon, Gilgamesh, Cait Sith, Selphie, Irvine, Ramza, Eiko
Finally got up the gumption to face BFA. Was much easier than I thought, thanks again to the anon who was giving me advice here. Only saw one Jecht Beam, which was good since my Lenna call wore off on the person he was targeting right after. Next up is...Shantotto's fight? Should be easy if I keep her paralyzed iirc. Three character fight, does this mean I can finally bust out my maxed WoFF twins?
Thanks! Gonna torture myself with these tomorrow.
>Three character fight, does this mean I can finally bust out my maxed WoFF twins?
Not sure if you can since that one I think is Elemental Lockout (or was it absorb? I know it has some elemental restriction but don't remember how severe), so the Twins may have some issues.
Damn, why they gotta dunk on my twins til the very end? Three boss fights are rare enough.
>Thinking Totto, Golbez, and... Iroha maybe?
Sounds solid. Unfortunately, I never got BTs for Golbez or Iroha so I'll likely find somebody different.
Glad to see you got through it. Admittedly that's the last stage I did since I decided to grind out Force Stones and wait for more Crystal Points first. But they absorb all elemental damage other than wind, dark, and holy (and resist non-elemental by 90%) so the twins unfortunately won't work here. They've also got really nasty Force Effects that kill your BRV gains, so I'm planning on letting them enter Force Time and then cancel it out. Luckily all you need is to do melee damage while at 100% or more of your BRV, or a dark element FR (not enchanted, so only Shantotto, Decil, Golbez, and Sice work AFAIK). There are three thresholds where the main Shantotto gets a red aura and if her turn comes around she'll instantly kill you Lufenia-style unless you paralyze her.
I'll probably start working my way through these stages soon. Not quite sure who I'll bring, but I've got Shantotto fully built so I may as well build around her. Thinking Totto, Golbez, and... Iroha maybe?
I decided to use the featured FRs for each battle (or whatever units the Tips section suggests), that way I'll end up using characters I hardly touched before.
Finally got something from the EoS free draws. Today's multi gave me Noel's FR (already MLB) and Vincent's FR (already had it, but not MLB). Free single on the II/VII banner gave me Minwu's FR (already MLB, RIP my bro's echo).
Yep, that's what I'm trying too.
An easier formatting of JP exclusives might be:
BT/FR:
>Angeal, Xezat, Rufus, Amarant, Gladio, Keiss, Agrias, Leon, Cait Sith, Selphie, Irvine, Eiko
BT only:
>Rydia, Sabin, Faris, Hope
FR only:
>Ultimecia, Garland, Paladin Cecil, Gilgamesh, Ramza
Though again, maybe I've missed something
>your faves who never even got a c90 tier rework beyond just getting c90 unlocked
What's their names? I'm sorry, Shadow.
Shelke, Cid Highwind, King,Trey, Cinque, Emperor, Kefka (would they count?), Firion, Guy (well, his rework was actually solid at least), Krile (she received a FR at least), Galuf, Prompto (they did him and Cid so fricking dirty fricks' sake) and Freya.
Seifer's the big one for me. He's consistently great in the story, but as far as gameplay goes he was good for about two months after getting his LD and that was it. I've said it before, but I thought for sure he'd be one of the first characters to get a BT once they lifted the restrictions on who can get them, but it never happened.
Lyse is a character I have no attachment to, but I like her design and it's always been baffling to me that she's NEVER been good. Outside of her debut, she's been consistently worse than Yda. Would have been nice if she could have a moment to shine somewhere.
>Lyse is a character I have no attachment to, but I like her design and it's always been baffling to me that she's NEVER been good.
I used her in a few difficult Shinryus because her auras were really useful, so she was probably an echo and a generic BT away from being good. Of course Leonora has the same auras (including damage reduction and last stand) plus offturn conversion of brv gain into healing, Enna/Sherlotta uncapped attacks, gauge charging, and that's ignoring the situationally useless but still unique revive.
>Krile (she received a FR at least)
Krile was the postergirl for someone that FR boards were intended to fix. Someone with a bad FR that would get a boost or minimally become usable as an echo to extend the chain a turn. Instead they just ignored her in favor of characters who were already good.
Yeah, some of those early FR users got shafted hard. Desch is another one, although his weird-ass FR could be funny to use in some situations.
Kam'lanaut was the weirdest Echo exclusion to me. He reran once or twice a couple months ago but without getting an Echo. And I get that he single-handedly fricked up the game balance, but by then the damage was done and getting an Echo with no rework wouldn't have made him especially good by that point anyway. It just seemed petty.
>Krile was the postergirl for someone that FR boards were intended to fix.
Agreed, she really got shafted in that regard, almost all the others early FRs got FR Boards to upgrade them and the ones that didn't are still much better than hers.
Kinda ironic that her, her grandpa and her grandpa's enemy/killer were the only FFV characters that didn't get anything for Shinryu (Krile may as well have gotten nothing with how bad her FR is).
Paladin Fricking Cecil. We never got his FR and it doesn't seem like it got much buzz in JP anyway.
Shelke, Freya, Emperor, Gau, Edge, Yang, Galuf, Sice, Seven
JP onry: Rydia, Faris, Gladio, Keiss, Selphie, Garland, Ulti, Leon
Gau would have been a monster in Shinryu. Edge, Yang, Galuf, Sice, Seven, and Freya all would have been fantastic as well. Their specific playstyle was so good for so long that I have no idea why they didn't get anything. I think the reason they waited so long on Gladio is because he would have been too overpowered, and this made sense for a while, but then they gave us Rubicante and Kelger (and Astos), and then those "too powerful" reasons started to make less sense. On the other hand, I do understand why Shelke never got anything. I think Shelke could have been a 20-30 HP attack EX Lightning (as was suggested here by someone else) and it would have worked out fine, but Relm showed us just how fricking terrible turn warping is in Shinryu. And then Emperor after his BT was always a character that I thought was really cool, but we'll never know
Sazh is probably one of the most shafted characters in the whole game. The only time he was good was for a few months after he first got his cp35, and he was the last of the original characters to get his EX. His shtick was always buffs, but they never got reworked into anything but generic unframed trash that would just get pushed off, and his LD barely did anything for him.
>The only time he was good was for a few months after he first got his cp35
understatement of the century, Sazh during the cp35 era was the answer to basically any problem, a Sazh friend support meant the difference between a slog of a fight and a complete breeze
Eiko
I was waiting for ages for the Prishe rework cause it felt like it could be possible only for it to never come. I'm still gonna get her BT before EoS and use her just because, the co-op being braindead means I can get away with whatever anyway.
lol
lmao
One job, you had one job and couldn't even do that, b***h.
Has anyone started going crazy with their gems to get some BTs? I also made use of those skip tickets and did 50 shinryuu skips and now I'm loaded with points. I can probably finally maxed out everyone's summon boards.
Yeah, I only had about 100k but I was able to get four BTs from the G Tokens I got, and just today got enough from the free draw to get one more. Thanks to the co-op shop, all of my BTs are green now too (other than Layle, RIP). It's been fun playing around with them and not having to worry about wasting my resources after all this time. It feels like turning on Cheat Engine after hitting postgame.
I rolled 900k gems (and all like 600 of my tickets), but I only got 6 BTs with it. Really underwhelming, but I guess that's statistically somewhat accurate (180*3% = ~5.40 BTs). It just feels weird when I had gotten so many "free" BTs and also did not often have to go to full pity for the things that I wanted. I kept 100k gems for miscellaneous whatever just in case. I'll spend them the last month probably. I have plenty of G tokens to get whatever BTs I want, but I really already rolled for everything that I actually wanted to use, so whatever I end up buying will probably just be for theme runs or something. I haven't used the tokens yet, but I'll probably just buy whichever thing I want to try out for one of these Dare to Defy stages.
I tried to but didn't get anything (unsurprising considering how shit my luck has been and how few gems I had), so all the new BTs I got were with BT tokens, good thing I had 71 tokens saved from before EOS was announced.
Not yet. I've bought one and I'm waiting to see what nonsense is going to be in the second wave.
>I've bought one and I'm waiting to see what nonsense is going to be in the second wave.
see
The ??? stages are Griever (Memorial 1), Safer Sephiroth (Memorial 2), and then Shinryu (DET 16 and a fitting end that we kill Shinryu as the last thing we do in DFFOO)
>I get holy and dark, but why lightning? Does anyone remember the other featured character on Enna's BT banner?
It was Noel BT/FR (Ice/Wind) with Enna BT/FR (Holy/Dark), but I believe the Lufenia+ LD that went along with that fight was Reno (Thunder)
>but I believe the Lufenia+ LD that went along with that fight was Reno (Thunder)
Ah, okay. Wonder if I can meme on this boss with good old Enna+Hope shenanigans.
There's #3 down. If they're not gonna let me use my WoFF twins, then I'm gonna use my other fave who excels vs three foes: Strago. He gave all three Shantotto's a proper spanking, and I realized how awful it is using Ursula during force time with her turn warping and instant turns putting out weak damage (I don't have her BT, maybe that helps). Also made a second staff UW with the free cores we got from the login bonus today since I've been finding a need for a second staff lately (used 2 staff users in stage 2 as well).
Up next is...frick yeah, they want me to use Enna! Looks like the favourites get to keep getting used. Looks like the enemy force effects want you to use holy, dark, and lightning damage. I get holy and dark, but why lightning? Does anyone remember the other featured character on Enna's BT banner?
>page 9
I can assume next thread may be the last.
>next thread may be the last
3 months is a long time, but maybe
>DeD parties
>BT weapon choices
>Costume picks and reviews if we get costume tokens
There should/could be a few more topics
This week's reading mission answers are Y'shtola, Palom, Prishe, Garland, and Eiko.
>if you start a new account and clear all the story chapters, the message you get when finishing the last chapter is
>The story will continue in another place and time.
Brehs...
Thanks, already forgot this was a thing.
>The story will continue in another place and time.
Opera Omnia 2 confirmed
meme aside, if that's really the case I glad they EoS'd, the whole game needs an overhaul and they can learn from all their mistakes
Opera Omnia's spiritual successor is the only gacha I would ever pick up. Out of literally dozens of gacha at this point, I've never stuck with any of them except OO, and I stuck with OO all the way until the end. I don't really know how likely SE is to launch another gacha now that Ever Crisis exists, though. I feel like they're going to put all their eggs in the VII basket for a while.
My biggest gripes with the game were the awful amount of loading screens because of how awful the UI and menus were. Like the party edit menu was definitely not designed with there being 100+ characters in the game, and yet they never bothered to change it to better fit it all and reduce the amount of scrolling up and down. Every button was unnecessarily too big.
Like look at this shit, atleast 50% of the screen is large buttons, and theres still fricking scroll arrows to show the last 3 gamemodes because they dont fit. Dont even get me started on summon boards and the World of Illusion menus, that shit was the most mind numbing process, you can waste a whole 45 minutes just trying to get 1 unit completed with the amount of back and forth.
>you can waste a whole 45 minutes just trying to get 1 unit completed with the amount of back and forth.
It came pretty late in the game, but that new enhance screen they added turns it into like a 5 minute process, but new characters were still really annoying to max out due to the (streamlined) back and forth. I found Opera Omnia's loading screens to be pretty tame compared to literally any other gacha in existence, at least after the all-in-one enhance screen. For me, the most annoying part of the UI was the friend list, because you don't want to or can't be using a friend in the first place, but the option is always there, and you have to scroll to the bottom every time in order to opt out. It ends up being 2 completely unnecessary loading screens that become very annoying any time a new story chapter, LC, or IW is released. Besides, when they added those mission quests where you actually could use friend units, it seemed like the friend units that I actually wanted to use were NEVER the ones I was able to select. A failure in all regards, the friend list was
Thanks bro
Posting this for posterity before I start buying shit. Also, I checked my mailbox for my BT token expiration, and I found out that I now have 92/300. That's a pretty neat way to implement that fix
That's four down, and this is what this victory lap toward EoS is all about: dabbing on Shinryu bosses with faves that never got BTs or even an FR! Cyan got his time to shine, now it's Xande's turn. Always knew a BT/FR for this guy would be an insta-pity for me, but it never came. At least he got to shine in the story.
I put him on the squad with the Enna/Hope meme combo because this was one of those elemental lockout fights and I remembered Xande was the only party dark enchant call. Yeah, I know Enna gives it with her BT but I figured hey, at least that means he can work here. Unfortunately, it'd be so long since I took Xande off the bench that I forgot all of his stuff was dark AND earth, meaning he hit for 1 brv damage for the entire battle. He looked so happy though, spamming Meteors. It was sad when the boss was at 1% hp, I was at 505% hp damage retain, and Xande's Meteor didn't kill.
I actually ended up using 3 separate force times to pull this off: the first with Hope, then 2 with Enna. The boss finally got their force attack off on the turn before I killed it, but the protective buffs and overheals from Hope meant we tanked it no problem.
Next is the White Dragons from the story chapter that gave Minwu his FR. Another fave of mine that never got his echo on global! Fricking hell, I'll still find a way to rep my favourite white mage though. Just gotta figure out who to pair with him. It's another fight from the elemental lockout era, demanding holy damage. Oh wait, I misread, it just wants holy or non-elemental. Might give Yang one last kick at the can then.
For the people who never claimed them, don't forget to get the DET BT tokens
Gem rewards for crystal cycle quests refreshed too.
In retrospect, I wonder what the point behind Papalymo was. The devs knew that EoS was coming by that point, so why the simultaneous release? If it was just a last-minute cash-grab from people that would pull on impulse, you'd think they would have picked a more popular character.
it certainly doesn't feel like a cash grab, more like a plan that was made when the game was fine to announce in grand fashion "XIV is getting new things again" but then EoS happened and made that moot
I think they knew there were a lot of people disappointed by the lack of FF14 stuff, so they decided to release him because he'd be the biggest draw over anyone else they could have released.
Found this vid, has the ones JP got that we didn't, if anyone's interested. What was your fave FR animation bros?
Yda
Cloud. I simp for Paladin Cecil so that helps, but it's also just really dynamic with good camerawork and doesn't just look like recycled animations. The launch at the end really helps.
I vote for Zidane as the absolute worst FR. Not only is the link extremely tenuous (I guess they both have tails?) but the animation is clearly recycled and from sources that weren't great in the first place: Zidane's Skill 2 and that fricking "hand out" pose that's used fifty times in every cutscene. HATE it.
Eiko's. It's top cute.
>Faris
Looks cool, she does a cute blitzball swan animation. Probably my favorite overall. I really like her Free Willy BT animation too. I feel like the animator(s) liked Faris
>Rubicante
The animation itself is okay, I mostly like it because I genuinely like Rubicante and they had him kino heal Leo in the FR
>Lightning
I feel like this FR with Firion should have been the gold standard for FRs. Not my favorite, but certainly a level of quality that should have been more common
>Rufus
I just like the implication with this animation that Fran is Balthier's pet
>Kain
The animation held up really well in my opinion as the first FR
>Cloud of Darkness
Probably my favorite of the more "lame" FR animations
Guess I'm done playing. Finally broke my login streak. Just couldn't be bothered to get on today. Maybe I'll come back when the costume shop comes out. I'm sad.
It's just 20 cactaur tokens but I can't blame you.
>there are 30 characters of every color
>except white, which has 29
Rikku was going to be white
All the genkis are red or yellow
Maybe, but counter point:
>Relm, Eiko, Arciela(?), Penelo, Serah
>Relm
hipster, tease
>Eiko
serious, not quite tsundere, more of a tryhard
>Arciela
Hayamin's don't seem strictly genki to me other than love for food.
>Penelo
fairly serious, looking after Vaan, but too bland for me to really object
>Serah
Doesn't give me genki vibes except when she's dropkicking Mog.
I will give you Krile and Cinque however.
And there's stage 5 down, two more to go this month. I decided to give these three offturn legends one last hurrah. Sad that Minwu didn't get his echo/FR board on global but his basic FR was enough for this fight even with inflated hp. Gladio was probably my favourite counter tank to use in this game and I was looking forward to his BT, but c'est la vie.
Next up is Omega Weiss, who wants us to use Reno or Vincent. Despite being a bit of a VIIgay, I failed to get both of their BTs at every opportunity but they both have echoes so I'll try to slot the two of them then find someone with a BT to help out. Maybe this is a decent place to set Sephiroth to be thematic and use another one of my faves.
>Sad that Minwu didn't get his echo/FR board on global but his basic FR was enough for this fight even with inflated hp.
Same, but his base FR has always been pretty insane. It builds to 999% insanely quickly, so the only thing missing about it is 50% HP damage cap, which wasn't really a thing back when he debuted
That team you used brings back memories. I essentially boycotted Shinryu until Cor came out, and then when Cor came out I ran Cor/Gladio or Cor/Gladio/Yang for all of the content I skipped, and it stayed that way until Minwu came out, and for me Shinryu actually began when Minwu released since because I was actually already a Minwu fan and he's when I started having fun again (though Cor is pretty fun too, I just don't have an attachment to him as a Final Fantasy character)
>Maybe this is a decent place to set Sephiroth to be thematic and use another one of my faves.
I'd be careful with anything that rebreaks constantly. I always preferred Aranea over Astos, so when the fight came out I used an Aranea squad, and I had "killed" the boss pretty early on, but I failed the fight because it took 80 turns (!!) before Omega Weiss got a turn again, and he needs to take 3 turns before you can kill him
>and he needs to take 3 turns before you can kill him
Oh right, this is THAT fight. Hmm, I'll look at some other options then.
>we never got the Crevasse event from JP Auron's banner
JP co-op is much worse than GL co-op
>Getting back into Theatrhythm to fill the void Opera Omnia is leaving behind
At least Dare to Defy doesn't give me any problems in that game.
>only blue difficulty
You're not letting it give you problems.
It's an old screenshot, but I admit I was too much of a pussy to switch to Ultimate until recently. It was the "Oh, just let me farm more Collectacards and get more levels. I'll just stick to Expert until I'm good enough to get to Ultimate" cope. The jump in difficulty is fricking absurd and the only way to deal with it is to load up on healers and jump in.
>SQUALLU~!
>watashi no koto ga suki ni naru suki ni naru~!
Rinoa co-ops were always my favorite
(not my pic)
>50 points away from maxing my third crystal room