>who is he
A "literal who" >what does he do?
Where Cor is a more defense/support/counter type unit, Weiss is purely offense-focused, with added true debuff immunity via his BT effect. His sphere is really good too, wtf
One thing that's easy to overlook is that while a few characters have "true damage," it's usually based on your Max BRV or other factors that limit their usefulness. With Weiss' BT effect, the party deals true damage equal to 10% of the HP damage they deal, meaning it scales in Force Time and dramatically increases your damage over time. So having Weiss around gives you even more damage than just his already great pre-emptive attacks.
What's the difference between a normal debuff immunity versus TRUE debuff immunity?
I'm on my way pity'ing his BT. I don't know if he's like Cor, who doesn't really need his BT.
Regular Debuff Inmunity is actually Debuff Evasion, hence why Guaranteed Debuffs will ignore it, meanwhile Weiss' BT gives actual Debuff Inmunitt, so no debuff will land on the party as long as his BT is active, not even guaranteed ones.
That aside, his BT effect is really useful, since the True Damage it gives actually scales with FT as it's based on HP Damage dealt instead of MBrv or HP Damage Limit like every other True Damage, so the more HP Damage you can deal, the stronger the True Damage will be, as long as you hit your cap tho.
>I don't know if he's like Cor, who doesn't really need his BT.
In my opinion he is very much like Cor (or Dorgann, and others) in that he doesn't need his BT. True Debuff Immunity is, as far as I'm aware, an effect that is completely unique to Weiss, but at the same time you can usually just bring a Hope call to fill up your buff slots, which also prevents any and all debuffs from landing. Add in U1 or other calls for extra flavor. A unique effect, but not one that is necessary if you can already play the game. I don't think that it prevents dispelling of your buffs, which is something that I would actually value, and it doesn't prevent enemy healing, which is another thing that I would actually value
The other effect of his BT, the True damage, is also unnecessary. First, it only even triggers if you're capping damage, which you should be doing, but it is not something that you are guaranteed to be doing. Second, if you are capping damage already, then you're probably already winning the fight too. It's a "win more" condition, in my opinion. That said, there might be like some single target fight(s) in the future that has a frick ton of HP where that added True HP damage might actually be useful, like maybe the future Memorial battles, but those allow you to use 2 parties anyway, and I can only imagine Weiss being a make or break for clearing those with a single party, which is not necessary to do
His BT isn't all that integral to his kit. His EX buff is basically where his role begins and ends, with everything else in his kit just serving to power it up. That said, like
One thing that's easy to overlook is that while a few characters have "true damage," it's usually based on your Max BRV or other factors that limit their usefulness. With Weiss' BT effect, the party deals true damage equal to 10% of the HP damage they deal, meaning it scales in Force Time and dramatically increases your damage over time. So having Weiss around gives you even more damage than just his already great pre-emptive attacks.
mentioned, his BT aura gives your party more damage than one would expect.
It's mostly just for convenience, though. One annoying thing about Weiss is that his buffs at Quest Start have a short duration, and if you use his AA or something before his EX is charged for the first time, that all-important EX buff is going to fall off for a turn or two before he can get it back up. So if you aren't gearing up for a big BT phase to nuke the bosses in, a common strategy is to Burst early with Weiss just so that he can run through all his skills and make sure his buffs are up before starting Force Time.
The Debuff Immunity really is a non-factor. It's rare that fights have debuffs that nasty, and we've had Lenna, Hope, and Rydia Calls to deal with the few that do for ages. I'm not even sure why he has it- it must be a reference to DoC I don't know about since I never played it.
>Have you considered selling BTs you won't use to token one you want?
I got bitten in the ass really early on with a similar mindset. Back in the COSMOS era, I sold Dark Knight Cecil's EX because Paladin Cecil had just come out. Since you can't use both at the same time, I figured I'd never use Decil anyway. And thinking that I was really clever, I decided that, "The next time I want to use him, we'll probably be on a new weapon tier anyway." Then of course, they introduced EX+ weapons, and when Decil got an upgrade I had to pull for his EX yet again. Now I never sell character weapons unless we're specifically told it's okay to do so, like with LDs.
Also, BTs just don't have enough of a payout to make selling them worth it unless they're dupes anyway. I'm not going to sell 10 to get one back.
And the streak continues. Yet again had to pity on this banner, and my resources are gone. Was prepared for it, but it would be really nice if I could get the FR and BT without having to pity one of them on a SINGLE banner. It was the BT this time.
And the streak is broken. They may not be weapons I particularly wanted, but I genuinely can't remember the last time I got all the weapons I was missing on free pulls, so I'm happy either way.
200 G tokens to get the FR. Would have liked the BT and I still might go for it because I haven't redeemed, but I'm playing the long game, my gems are a bit fricked, and at the end of the day I already have Cor and do not plan on doing blue crystals any time soon
Got two BT's trying to get an FR, eventually had to pity it. Reserves are still looking strong at around 300k, if Golbez really is soon I'll be ready for him.
I really should give it a try when Jihl releases (assuming I get anything for her since I'm just gonna do my free pulls and a few tickets). I'm too used to doing things the old way but the Enhance tab looks like it's a lot more convenient than going between several different menus to buy each armor piece individually.
It makes it a lot, lot easier. I still have complaints about the upgrade process as a whole, but as far as the Enhancement screen goes, I do consider it a massive QoL. My only gripe with it is that the Enchancement/Summon boards come before the Weapons in the list, so when these new characters happen, I always enter into the character boards ready to give them their LD and FR boards, only to realize that I still need to max out the weapons in order to unlock the boards. I do this literally every single time, because I just mosey down the list when I'm filling it out
That new Enhance screen is really handy for not forgetting stuff like that, but even with the massive QoL it provides it still takes a while
The summon part is still a pain. I don't know why they don't let you just pick the 3 bonuses at the same time instead of having to do it one at a time. Just touch one and if you have 1500 points available, then you can choose all 3 from one window.
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The summon part is still a pain. I don't know why they don't let you just pick the 3 bonuses at the same time instead of having to do it one at a time. Just touch one and if you have 1500 points available, then you can choose all 3 from one window.
God I hate having to go thru at least 4 loading screens just to switch to the next summon boss fight. Just put some damn face buttons on the bottom of the map that lets me switch to whatever summon I want to fight without having to back out over and over.
Better yet, just put all the divine summons on one single map that branches out to each one, so I can just select whoever I want to fight with zero screen transitions/loadings
Goddamn I am moronic. I was in a big hurry pulling for Weiss and ended up pitying his BT, even though I had 50 tokens I was planning to use to buy his BT with and I'd gotten the entire rest of his kit off the free tickets. And then I MLB'd his LD but sold it before I max leveled it. So then I had to spend 550 tickets to get another copy of his LD and ended up pulling a dupe of the BT I had just pitied 10 minutes earlier. Fricking hell I hate myself so much. I don't even like Weiss all that much.
Dude what kind of dire emergency were you rushing for? Its a game and the banner just came out, its not fricking going anywhere. I cant even feel bad for you.
Can we please get more ruin ingots? Im drowning in every other ingot and book (BT included). Or am i just supposed to waste resources on dupe EX's to get more ruin ingots of of them?
I've got the same issue. Right now I have 14 BT books but only 3 ingots. I find myself constantly thinking, "I don't even want this character's BT but I hope I get it anyway just so I can use one of these goddamn books," which I think is the point. Back when EX+ materials first came out, the general strategy was to use books on characters you didn't care about so that you would have ingots to use on your favorites, but with BTs being so much more rare than any other weapon tier has ever been, it doesn't even out. Other than Braska, I haven't pulled a single BT that I didn't intend to green ever since the schedule change.
I'm also drowning in BT books/ingots, but I still can't max out every EX. I booked every EX in the game, but I still need like 30 more ingots before I can max them all. It doesn't matter, but I'd really like to get my inventory all nice and tidy and I can't
I've just solo'd every stage so far with Auron. I might be able to solo 14 with Auron, but definitely not 15, so I will just barely not be able to get a full solo Auron clear of the event
>BT lasts 8 turns >triggers 12 HP attack trap (!!) with 50% splash after enemy turn >this is *in addition* to her normal trap, which is now 6 HP attacks with 50% splash >that is 18 HP attacks with 50% splash after enemy turns
God fricking damn. The condition to trigger the + version is that the enemy whose turn it was needs to have total debuff turns remaining of >50, but Faris BT makes it so that her debuffs do not decrease, so Faris alone will fulfill 40 of those necessary 50 debuff counts (8*5). If you give her 2 debuff E spheres (6T max), then she can completely fulfill her BT condition on her own, for 18 mother fricking HP attacks with 50% splash any time an enemy takes a turn
I was never going to do Blue crystal unless Faris or Edge got updates, so I'm pleased to see that Faris has a mother fricking 18 HP attack off turn trap with 50% splash, but what in the frick even is this game anymore. Rubicante has 6 aoe split HP attacks, btw, and that guy is still insane. And Gladio BTFR is next week, and his counter apparently scales to +9 or something
I'm stuck in BT phase. The adds get one-shot and then the boss instantly summon them back and then the follow-up kills them again.
This game is wild sometimes
you accidentally triggered the Dorgann loop, it happens, if you're out of BT Phase this can just keep going until it dies, but in BT it can trigger exactly what you've just witnessed, and make the fight infinite, was a prime method that people abused when this fight was current
>was a prime method that people abused when this fight was current
Was a gimmick method that people who hadn't already cleared the fight used to more easily clear it when Dorgann was released 3 months later
Now I'm the one got stuck in Dorgann's infinite loop. I already forgot how I cleared those black dragons. My DET says I cleared it with Zack/Ramza/Laguna.
Is this the one with depleting the Lufenia orb to zero?
Tier 8's actually a bit tricky now that BRV regen is so common that you don't realize it. I just tried letting Auron deal with it, but once Bio Breath was down he just kept filling up to max BRV and there wasn't anything I could do about it. It's like dealing with a fight that punishes you for having a buff that gives more than a 40% ATK increase. Suddenly you have to go over all your characters to figure out what all the buffs you stopped paying attention to do. Just a weird little consequence of how the game's changed over time.
>I just tried letting Auron deal with it, but once Bio Breath was down he just kept filling up to max BRV and there wasn't anything I could do about it
Bro, your Gladio (never take damage) call?
I think Tier 9 is gonna be the only one that you have to think about as far as the Lufenias go. If you blow them up too quickly the orb is going to pop, unless you're in a Summon/BT phase, which you can probably easily do, but still, that fight has so many mechanics that even doing too much damage too quickly will kill you
I don't know if it was intentional, but I really appreciate the fact that they didn't rerun Tier 9 until after Vincent gets his update. I still have him fully invested from the last time, so even if I don't end up getting his FR those fricking owls are going to wish they were never born.
Man, I can't keep up with all these SE gachas. Only one I more or less consistantly play is NieR ReINcarnation, and even then I side-step it so often I've missed tons of stuff.
Other than Nier, I've tried Opera Omnia and just recently War of the Visions. I never bothered to play pvp or join guilds and whatnot and the gacha system of having a frickton of items for everything plus convoluted everything for pulls, tokens and everything is filtering me hard.
I should just stick to one, I suppose, or only focus on the story mode for those that really interest me but they just announced an FFVIII colab for WOTV with Seifer as a boss and I don't really to miss that.
>Man, I can't keep up with all these SE gachas
I played WotV for almost an entire year, I played Nier Re[in]carnation for a few months, and OO is the only one that I kept playing. WotV and Nier take way too long to play for too little reward. In WotV, it takes the entire year just to get a cohesive team functioning at a basic level, and you are always grinding something or other, though they have background grind now so it's not as bad as it used to be. Nier isn't that bad, but the daily/weekly grinding still takes as long as WotV does, and Nier doesn't have background grind. Then there's Ever Crisis, but it's just Nier with Final Fantasy instead of brown girls
I liked Nier's story and characters, but Opera Omnia is the only one of these that I have ever actually had fun with. I wish all gacha games would follow OO's way of doing things. There are only a couple grinds here, and once you finish them, they're done forever. The one (1) daily takes literally 10 seconds to complete. Even co-op you usually don't need to grind anymore, since if you 3x book a boosted Shinryu with 5 skip tickets, that's enough to buy out the whole shop. So it ends up being that the only thing you ever do in OO are the actually fun parts of the game, which is beating the fights
Funny thing, the JP side of Opera Omnia reduced the number of events per month saying that "people complained that they didn't have time to play other mobile games with the current amount of new content." The Global side apparently said that's moronic and now we're speeding up to catch up to JP faster and getting more GL Exclusive events like Dare to Defy.
Took almost all day, but i beat all the DET levels, finale included with Setzer. Getting the new nameplate actually feels good, and a relief. There were alot of good units I ended up not using, from Rubi to Cor, Aerith, Weiss, Auron, my wife Aranea, the twins, a handful of main characters like Cloud, and even Quina.
Congrats. I ended up with a lot of really good characters free too. We only got a new tier every two or three months or so, so a lot of times a stage just wouldn't be good for a certain character, and then by the time the next tier came out they were outclassed by newer characters who countered the mechanics better. I'm looking at my list and Prishe was a pretty tragic case of this. She was absolutely fantastic... for like a month since Shinryu dropped right after her BT debut.
I'm really surprised that I never ended up using Tifa, Garnet, or Machina. All three of them were very good for a very long time but I guess I didn't want to "waste" them and either never used them or quickly re-cleared the tier to free them up again.
Reno's another one for me, like Aranea, where I already have him fully built, and I would like his BT a lot, but I don't really want to pull for or token the BT. For me, as much as I would like his BT, he's Dagger UW, and red gets Kelger in a bit, plus I already have Rubicante, Auron, and Beatrix (and Minwu), so I can't justify the pull or the token, but I'd probably green him if I get it
I'm most interested in using his BT phase to spam his HP attack, then ending with like 1 or 2 turns left on Force Time and coming out of it with a heavily delayed party due to spamming his HP attack during Burst so that the enemy kills themselves even harder than usual
I'll be putting in some tickets for Vincent's FR since I already have him fully invested. Won't be crying myself to sleep if I don't get him.
I was all aboard the Reno Train when he first got his FR since his was the first to really reward an off-turn playstyle, but once more came out like Celes and Minwu I stopped using him entirely and I can't see anything different happening here. He's not really an off-turn attacker himself, he's like the Keiss of off-turn comps in that he enables your real counter-tanks and such. But Rubicante, Auron, and eventually Kelger don't need the help.
I will be focusing on getting Vincen'ts FR since I got his BT from the first 50+1 tickets we got months ago, and I would like to use him a bit more, especially since the fighting chickens will be back soon.
Not really interested in Reno's BT but if I get it while chasing Vincent's FR it will be a nice bonus.
>300 G Tokens >literally zero FRs, no BTs, no nothing
Feels bad to pity fricking Vincent's FR, a thing I didn't even want other than for collection purposes. I have got to stop doing this shit and just let it go. I don't use them anyway
>got Vincents BT off of the multitickets >suddenly feel get that bad urge of pulling for his FR since i got the damn thing >swap to Reno's banner >90 tickets and got it along with some dupes of Reno's FR
Thank god.
So how do i kill this thing? Im not understanding it from reading thru the description, did i bug it with too much damage? It did its regeneration twice.
https://dissidiacompendium.com/bestiary/enemies/3500/250/
Phase 1: no orb, just kill it
Phase 2: kill before enemy takes 5 turns
Phase 3: can't kill until enemy takes 10 turns
You need to let it take 10 turns after the second orb activates. After 10 turns the orb goes away and you can kill it.
Thanks. This boss had some weird stuff happening tho. It was getting its brave back in the middle of Dorg's followup every time, which caused an infinite. Then it was stealing whatever HP Auron was healing from his counter and even the call i had. That took way longer than it needed.
left the game with about 120k gems I think and some tickets. with the upcoming banners when would be a good time to try and come back. last thing I pulled was Rinoa’s BT
I mean, theres never really a "best" time to pull because theres only ever 2-3 good units running on banners, and any other really good unit had just passed and will come back in X amount of months. The global schedule is also being mix matched around, so even predicting whose going to come back is up in the air.
You missed Astos, who is basically THAT unit that can hit the damage cap of the game with ease. Right now, you can get Weiss, whose like Cor with a BT effect that can get wonky with the FR bonus, theres Auron who can tank and kill on his own, Cloud/Squall/Light i think are still up. Its really just personal preference when it comes to pulling really.
Weiss is an absurdly good on-turn damage dealer and he's up now. He jumps in front of allies and gets in some cheeky damage every time they select a move. He's similar to Cor, but Cor has now retroactively been made "the defense-focused one" in comparison. Kelger should be coming next month or early October, and he's one of those busted dodge tanks that can solo damn near everything.
And yeah. Weiss and Kelger. That's the kind of literal who we're typically getting now.
cool, I’ll get ready for Kelgar and Auron since I already fully invested in him. thnx
I should mention, but there's a new type of enhancement that's been added since you've been gone. You can now power up the colored crystals to give every character of that color stat buffs and new passives. But like Ultima Weapons it's a long, long term investment. Once a week you can run a Crystal Quest which is an old Shinryu, and if you have a team of characters that are all one color, you'll get points towards that crystal. You can set your difficulty and how high you set it determines how many points you're capped out on for the week- at a minimum of 400 and a max of 700. Current content doesn't take it into account, but it's easy to miss out on if you don't already know about it.
Is there a higher difficulty than Shinryu now? to be precise I dipped out right before an upcoming 45 minute Cloud of Darkness fight. I hope that wasn’t a continuing trend
Shinryu is still the highest difficulty, but they've been steadily increasing in difficulty over time despite them calling it the same thing. But fights do tend to be a lot faster now that we have Force Echoes. They let characters use their Force Ability while Force Time is already active. Echoes don't decrease the number of turns in Force Time and they tend to make the multiplier shoot up dramatically. That plus the fact that a 75% multiplier increase every turn is considered "the standard," means that getting to a 999% multiplier is pretty much guaranteed. Most fights don't last more than eight minutes these days.
9 months ago
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are you talking about FRs or is this a whole new another weapon? or upgraded FRs
9 months ago
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Same thing as LD Boards basically. When a character has their FR weapon maxed out, they get a new Enhancement Board, and finishing that will power up the FR Ability and let you use Echoes. It made Enhancement Points even more of a pain to save up if you're F2P and the game is really stingy when it comes to upgrading old FRs (Desch and Krile are still completely worthless even in JP since they still don't have FR boards), but it sped things up and balanced out team comps so that off-turn damage wasn't so absurdly better than on-turn damage.
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Ok got ya, I still had some weapons to sell and points banked so hopefully I’m able to catch up sooner than later
Weiss is an absurdly good on-turn damage dealer and he's up now. He jumps in front of allies and gets in some cheeky damage every time they select a move. He's similar to Cor, but Cor has now retroactively been made "the defense-focused one" in comparison. Kelger should be coming next month or early October, and he's one of those busted dodge tanks that can solo damn near everything.
And yeah. Weiss and Kelger. That's the kind of literal who we're typically getting now.
The writing's been better than usual for a while now. Act 3 was just so dull and long-winded that it made me forget that the story and character interactions were the main reason I stuck with this game when I started playing in the first place.
Act 4's just been pretty consistently good since it started, yeah, been giving a lot of the cast room to interact with each other, make connections they couldn't originally, I'm actually sort of excited to see what they end up doing next and who they'll end up bringing with them as of next time, the next major story chapter isn't for a while and introduces Sehl'theus so the inner XI fanboy in me is screaming to see how that goes
She does a lot of damage, has a strong follow up attack (3 hp attacks with 180% max brave overflow) and her BT triggers it twice. She's a got solid FR (+40% whenever someone uses an on turn melee attack and 40% whenever someone does group HP damage) so that's probably 80% every turn. Overall though she wasn't all that great on release and will be even more underwhelming in GL since they messed with the timeline and moved up stronger characters like Lightning, Aranea and Keiss to before her.
She does a lot of damage, has a strong follow up attack (3 hp attacks with 180% max brave overflow) and her BT triggers it twice. She's a got solid FR (+40% whenever someone uses an on turn melee attack and 40% whenever someone does group HP damage) so that's probably 80% every turn. Overall though she wasn't all that great on release and will be even more underwhelming in GL since they messed with the timeline and moved up stronger characters like Lightning, Aranea and Keiss to before her.
>She does a lot of damage
Isn't it more that she just does a medium amount of damage for the current power creep? Like, Vincent has roughly the same amount of HP attacks on his kit (~9 vs ~10) and he wasn't shilled despite having a +50% HP damage cap up on his easily meetable FR condition and another personal +50% HP damage cap up on his BT. Jihl is a sword though, so that's always a plus especially when compared to gun. Then for white crystal there's also Lenna coming next month (probably) and I think she does about the same damage Jihl does too, but has a Bow UW which might be worse that Gun depending on your roster. I think Jihl's thing is that she also has a gauge charge, but it's either slightly worse or slightly better because she does a follow up attack on it (like Rem) in exchange for less charging?
I think "10 HP attacks" is the new bare minimum that even supports are doing on their buttons nowadays (see: Rosa)
it's only really counter tanks that do less than that because they do their damage off turn (see: Rubicante, Beatrix, Auron, Cater) I think Kelger might do around 10 on turn
>Then for white crystal there's also Lenna coming next month (probably) and I think she does about the same damage Jihl does too, but has a Bow UW which might be worse that Gun depending on your roster.
There's also the fact that on top of that, Lenna provides way more party utility to boot. Even if Bow UW isn't exactly glamourous I'd still take her over Jihl for what she provides. She can charge but it's slow, so it's good if you need to charge but don't mind if they use FR, which is okay I guess? If you're charging at all it's weird that you're okay with not winning the race in my opinion. Would rather just forgo the charger at all if you don't care about that.
Those are fair statements. Keep in mind though that her follow up damage is deceptively high since it has an innate 180% max brave overflow and her BT aura lets her hit twice with it. You can also use that in someone else's FR time that has a max hp damage cap increase to push it even further. So even if the number of hp dumps she gets isn't all that impressive compared to other characters, the amount of hp damage she can put out per turn is higher than most characters. And on top of putting out solid damage numbers, she can also serve as an FR charger, which is pretty neat since typically characters who can charge the FR have poor personal damage.
That said, with the timeline shakeup we've got several characters who can outdamage her early and there some other good white crystal characters. Even without the time traveling I don't think she was a must pull, but she was pretty solid at her JP release. Currently in GL though I feel like she's a pretty easy skip.
Jihl's EX has 14 HP attacks and Vincent's damage spread is different. All of Jihl's damage is Split, including the EX while Vincent has >4 single HP attacks with 2x splash >EX that might as well be full 4x group HP damage >LD that hits 5 full HP attacks on group >Plus 4x single target follow up
Vincent's real niche imo, is debuffing the enemies' stats HARD. Which might have diminishing returns in this era when it comes to damage contribution, but fricking over the enemies' INT BRV might still be a viable strategy (though you might as well use Iris BT for that)
Jihl can >Paralyze >Heal the party >Do a "mini gauge charge" >And "cheat" the FR gauge by gaining an additional percentage increase with her BT effect after every EX
Jihl is a real all rounder, and with support from characters like Queen BT, she can hit deceptively hard like other people mentioned here and get a big FR bonus from it
You're also forgetting that Vincent's FR has +50% HP damage cap and he has an additional +50% HP damage cap for himself on his BT, and Jihl has neither one of these things. I was responding directly to "she does a lot of damage". She does ~10 HP attacks vs Vincent's ~9 HP attacks that have an additional +100% HP damage cap up on them. I wasn't even saying that Vincent is a better damage dealer than Jihl, I'm just saying that if Vincent wasn't hyped up as a damage dealer, then I don't see why Jihl would be. In my own personal view of the current game state, she does a medium amount of damage with a medium amount of support and thus is a medium character, who of course is still very useable as all current characters are. You probably do want her if you're doing white crystals right now, but if you're short on resources then I think that Lenna is probably overall better and has comparable damage and that Vincent probably has comparable damage as well and that he was not shilled as a damage dealer (rightfully so)
I haven't really seen her in action much, but my first impression of her is that she's an Agrias upgrade. It looks like her biggest issue is the fact that she's a White Crystal. All-rounders with damage and healing utility are nice if you're pumping them up with crystal enhancements, but White already has a monopoly on characters that are really similar. You have the option of sticking with Yuri, Leo, and Braska, or waiting for Lenna, Queen or Deuce instead of pulling for Jihl. Hell, maybe Paladin Cecil will finally get reworked and invalidate all of them. It's a crowded market for units like her.
There's also my girl Arciela, who gets the Aerith FR treatment
White's an unfortunate color for me in that I don't really like any of the white crystal characters except Arciela, Emperor, and Gau, and only one of those has any sort of recent update in JP
I was already going to go for Lenna because I have all the love in the world for V, I've got both Queen and Deuce built but I don't really know what their reworks give them, and I was very tempted to get Yuri's whole kit but I stopped at FR and I can just token the BT later if they're really that good.
Does Queen actually get good with her reworks or is she in the same boat as Jihl? She's already kinda meme-y with her transformation EX butit's a fun kinda meme-y.
Queen's got a lot of nice tools, but her damage is pretty mediocre and the characters she synergies well with are fairly uncommon. She gives party-wide Last Stand and a lot of BRV refund on HP attacks. Her BT effect essentially puts her in permanent Crazy Fricking b***h Mode where she's immortal, does good damage, and has a choice between an instant-turn-rate attack and a normal-speed attack so you have options. The BT also dramatically powers up party members' EX attacks and skills changed from HP or BRV attacks like Machina's Furious Blades or Rosa's Aim.
Her FR is really restrictive. You only get the full benefit for using melee skills changed from HP/BRV attacks. It does give a fantastic 50% increase to both HP damage and BRV cap if you do use one, though. It's a shame that there aren't many characters she works well with because of this and her BT effect. Noel is a fantastic partner for her. Machina's still good but he's showing his age and doesn't have an Echo. Reno can hit her conditions but Queen isn't meant for off-turn comps. Same thing goes for Auron. Getting the most out of her is tricky.
That's not as bad as I was expecting, at least. Some of the stuff she provides seems pretty good, keeping her in EX mode for the BT sounds pretty nice and she's got some decent synergy, shame about those conditions though. I'll admit, I was tempted to go for her because she's one of the few Type-0 characters I actually kinda like (alongside Sice and King) so she's a "pull for her BT/FR if I have excess resources" kind of character for me.
>Machina's still good but he's showing his age and doesn't have an Echo.
Was fricking crestfallen when I saw he got FE50 without getting a rework. Like come the frick on, give him extra HP dumps and Echo! Absolutely ridiculous. Like, yeah, I can still use him and even whipped him out for DE13, but he could be so much better.
I can't really complain about Machina falling off because he was the MVP of Shinryu for literally the entirety of the pre-Echo era, but it's always such a slap in the face whenever a character comes back on a new banner and they STILL don't have an Echo. Machina's going to rerun with fricking KELGER. Come on, giving him an Echo there wouldn't have hurt the game balance when you have Effortless Solo Clears: The Character to compare him to.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I still use Machina a ton since he's still a king of off-turn damage. Potentially two AoE counters every time an enemy attacks, and potentially a third counter if they use an All attack, plus his HP attack hits hard and throws him back in the turn order so enemies get more attacks. And his FR is still incredibly strong for any melee team, especially an off-turn one. With Machina, Cor and Auron, using Machina's FR and then Echoing with the other two,I've been rolling through almost every fight. Obviously it would be nice if Machina got a rework and an Echo, but honestly I don't feel like he even needs it all that bad. Of the pre-Echo characters he's held up the best by far.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Oh he definitely still puts in work. It's just a bit tragic to see his big dick Furious Blades Burst do less damage than Rosa, especially when the devs have actively avoided getting him back up to speed when given the chance.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Of the pre-Echo characters he's held up the best by far.
My vote for this goes to Minwu, Sice, or Celes
Minwu's FR is still one of the best ones driving FRs for off turn damage. Most recently, in current content, I used Sice to solo Lightning's IW in the D4D. Celes is one of the few units that can actually benefit from the D4 passive in a meaningful way, and both her and Sice can also benefit from the U6 passive in meaningful ways
I have no idea which anon you are. That video seems to be showing that Vincent + Weiss deals less damage than Jihl so I'm guessing you're the one who was saying that Jihl is better than Vincent?
>so I'm guessing you're the one who was saying that Jihl is better than Vincent?
I'm the one saying that if Vincent wasn't sold as a damage dealer then I don't think Jihl should be sold as a damage dealer either
When Jihl released in JP she was the second strongest damage dealer available after Astos. Like with your video comparison, it shows that Vincent needs Keiss with his pre-emptive and scaling True Damage just to get close to what Jihl can do on her own. Further you can really push Jihl's damage a lot further than what that first video shows by starting with an FR that has a strong damage boost like Setzer's. Also only looking at HP dumps doesn't give you the whole picture. 180% overflow on a 3 hp dump attack puts out as much damage as 5 hp dumps with no overflow. So with Jihl getting two of those 180% overflow 3 hp dump attacks with her BT aura up, she's basically getting the equivalent of 10 extra hp dumps on every attack.
The biggest issue for Jihl is actually maxing out the overflow. She really benefits from the Crystal room passive that gives her an extra brave hit, or having a party member use a Cait Sith Call.
In the Vincent video, he only has 2 turns at 999% whereas Jihl has the entire BT phase at 999%. There is ~28mil damage on the Vincent video that is unaccounted for because one of the arms died, and Shinryu auras are more restrictive than Lufenia auras. If you can find a better and more direct comparison I would love to see it. I'm not buying that Jihl "does a lot of damage" any more than Vincent does a lot of damage
>When Jihl released in JP she was the second strongest damage dealer available after Astos
I thought that was Reks? Seem to remember someone mentioning that was the case in one of the past threads.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DESSM4SB3mJkBrNC2wnUeAOX5hj16Ki4/edit#gid=2147024184
Reks (and Balthier) were the 2nd most damaging BT phase damage dealers assuming the most normal fight conditions (with a +50% hp cap main FR), but this does not include more recent additions like Jihl (or Reno), and I'm not enough of a spreadsheet autist to actually learn how this works to fill her in myself. Reks is getting ~12 split HP aoe attacks every single turn, and Jihl is getting ~10 split HP aoe attacks every single turn unless you can refill her EX every turn (Reno is 11 full HP attacks every turn, btw, and he wasn't shilled on his damage). I know there are more variables than just the number of HP attacks, but unless sinewave ever updates this sheet, the world may never know. All I know is that in my purely intuitive and based on no actual facts opinion, she seems to be being oversold on her damage. Someone described her in this thread as an all rounder, and that's what I would describe her as too, but someone also said "she does a lot of damage" and I will believe that when I see it
This just makes me want to test a Reno BT phase with support to see if I can get some really big numbers out of it, I haven't tried it yet but I'm certainly curious now
She's such a literal who that they don't have any artwork for her and had to settle on a blurry in-game screenshot. Even Dorgann had some cool fanart.
I'll throw some tickets at her, but since there's no way I'm greening her there's not much point in going hard. I just have a bias for new characters for collection's sake.
The game has put me into a situation where I am no longer confident in the longevity of my resources. I keep needing to pity FRs that I know I will never use and that I only even wanted for collection purposes anyway. If I don't get her FR and/or LD on the free multis, I'll probably skip her altogether. I need to do something to break the habit of pulling for every single FR that comes out and this seems like a good opportunity. I don't like White anyway. It's definitely going to be my last crystal color unless someone crazy ends up being White. I'll just pick up Arciela and then hope that Emperor or Gau get a rework before EoS
>"fifth best DPS unit in the game" >"oh, but she's also a charger though" >"she has great party support!"
I feel like I'm being gaslit on how good this character actually is and I don't know why people are even bothering for a character like this.
Shit I was actually thinking about getting Queen BT down the line, maybe I really do need to go for this, but by the time it rolls around I could token Queen's so that could work
I got her FR with the free tickets. But I'm sitting on 45 BT tokens right now and will need to buy a BT since there's 10 on the shop. No clue who's to get. Quistis? Paine? Jihl?
If you're on the fence about Paine she's a character I'd recommend, gives her a lot of utility. You'd be surprised how many fights HP Silence shuts down entirely and she's also got her turn hopping for others. I don't think she's particularly necessary but I'd probably use her BT the most out of those three.
>I'm sitting on 45 BT tokens right now and will need to buy a BT since there's 10 on the shop
That's not how BT tokens work. If you are maxed out, you can still buy them. They go to your mailbox. If that's how you do it, that whenever you have 50 tokens you immediately spend them that sounds like a fun way to play the game, but you do not "need" to buy a BT in order to get the co-op BT tokens
Since I'm focusing on Blue crystals my opinion's a bit skewed since she gets a huge power boost, but Paine's been one of my most consistently useful characters since she got her BT. Her FR conditions are really easy to hit. She can keep off debuffs and enemy buffs. Put her on the left and she has a Cait Sith/Sherlotta style BRV gain to the party on hit, and on the right she severely nerfs enemy damage and they take 40% more HP damage. Once those effects are up, they can't be dispelled, either. With her BT active, anytime she or someone to her left hits an enemy they get HP Silenced and it's easy to stack it to the point where they can't do anything for over 30 turns by the time her BT runs out. When she or someone to her right hits an enemy, the whole party gets a stacking buff that gives you an instant turn whenever someone's at three stacks.
In short, at max investment having her in the party means enemies don't get to play the game, and you can ignore most of the mechanics the game can throw at you. Her personal damage is subpar at this point without an Ultima Weapon and crystal boosts, but she still contributes a lot.
It's got a debuff at 50% force along with a self buff, can just bring Aerith to deal with that or any sort of debuff immunity. You can just not let them take turns and you'll probably fine. They have this aura mechanic but if you don't let them take turns they can't really do anything to you.
It self-delays when the aura activates. I actually had Jihl to Daze it so it couldn't act, but it died so quickly that it never had a chance to use it anyway, and I didn't even have any dedicated damage dealers. I don't see any reason why Aerith and Astos can't blow this stage up while babysitting an unbuilt Nabaat.
Just make sure you have a paralyze debuff on them (Jihl does this on her EX) if they get their force attack off, or they'll paralyze you. Other then that, it's easy.
https://www.dissidiacompendium.com/bestiary/enemies/3917/300/infographic
Since everyone so far has mentioned the on-turn angle, I'll mention the off-turn one. Like most Shinryu fights that are not part of the main story, this fight doesn't actually do anything. If you're doing off-turn, you probably want to keep the player debuffs and enemy buffs that are applied at 50% enemy gauge. The only thing to watch out for is that if you let the enemy get a force time, the behemoth needs to be "cannot act"d, but otherwise you probably even want to *not* cancel their force time. The only thing in the entire fight you need to be mindful of is having the behemoth paralyzed if/when it gets force time
>Got Jihl's BT off Free Tickets
Alright nice, just need to roll for her LD & FR now >Run out of tickets going for her LD but get her FR
Okay I'll guess I'll gem it until I get to pity or her LD >Get a BT Dupe and STILL have to pity her LD
Why?
Man, it's really weird not knowing who any of the next characters are going to be. I caught myself looking at my ticket count and thinking, "Yeah, this should be enough to get me... uh... Golbez? Maybe?"
We're gonna find out tomorrow at least, but yeah it's spooky not knowing cause of the time travel. Could be anything coming, but I think the next month is set in stone. There's no way they'll rush FE50. And if they do, it'll be even worse for the game.
Looking at this, there are still (7? 8?) banners before FE50. If they want to make it nice and easy for GL and do it by the month, they're gonna have to cram (2?) extra banners in September to make it an easy Selh'teus and FE50 start for October. Lenna, Queen, Enna Kros, Cater, Kelger, Deuce, FuSoYa (and Strago?) all with events, Golbez just on a banner. I wonder if they're gonna cram it all in September or if they're gonna awkwardly break out the FE50 in mid-October while they stick to their 6 events per month thing
I really hope they don't break out FE50 early, but I could sadly see them do it. That's the start of new power levels, and if they do so ahead of time and leave some banners in the dust, it's likely by the time they ever get around to them they'll just be underpowered on release. The only things I feel are safe are the spiritus events, as those are probably higher priority than an LC or raid event.
>I really hope they don't break out FE50 early
Why? I've enjoyed early Crystal Rooms quite a bit. I don't think they'll give FE50 to units that do not already have it in JP, so I think that FE50 and Selh'teus don't happen until October, and I think that there are (actually more than) enough banners to fill September so that they can still stay on schedule and release FE50 in October with Selh'teus. Really, to me, it seems like the only unknown is whether they're going to cram 8 banners into September, or if they're going to keep 6 in September, and then introduce FE50 while on the 3rd or so event in October, which in my opinion is super awkward and makes it more likely that they just cram 8 events into September, but I guess it's really impossible to say or attempt to guess
FE50 doesn't really seem that powerful to me though. It's just a personal +20% Max BRV cap up (hp damge cap) and +20% HP damage up for the unit that has the FE50. They rest of the things are Force Gauge related, and even if a unit is only FE30, they still retain part of the gauge. It's definitely "new power levels", but just from reading the abilities, it seems neither like a new weapon tier of power level difference nor as powerful as the c90 difference, and probably not even as powerful as the difference that FR echo makes
So the things that weren't covered in the stream were: >6 man - Cater >Spiritus Alexander - Deuce >FuSoYa LC
Which is only 3 events. So the Sept 21st stream might be a mini stream covering those 3 events? Or more likely, it will cover those 3 events, and then also the entire month of October, which should "begin" with FE50 and Selh'teus. I wonder how far after Selh'teus October will go or if they're going to continue shuffling the banners around
Curious about something:
How are your Crystal Rooms coming along? Which color did you choose first? Are you focusing on one color at a time or spliting among several to get the passives you are most interested on first?
I myself started with Green but switched to Black since I was more interested in that color, unlocked three passives on each and could unlock a fourth one for Black but dunno which to get next.
I chose the same colors but I'm giving preference to black; I only switch to green when the quest is giving me trouble. I think I'll go for extra turn at quest start or speed down next.
Upgrading Blue but spending the universal crystals on White. Gonna focus on White until I get the EX charging passive for Enna and Jihl, then I might go back to Blue, idk.
I want go with blue, but I don't have a good blue support, most are fully built DPS. I want to try yellow too, if only my BTless Sherlotta has FR echo, she can help Lightning finish the job.
also focusing on Green and I've been on it ever since, I'm probably gonna stick with it until I fully finish at this rate just because I'm already invested
All-in on blue. After getting three passives I'm happy with, I've been avoiding more and just focusing on stat increases. I'm pleased with the differences it's made. Last year I wouldn't have used Rosa at all, but the absurd boost in stats has made an all-rounder like her way more useful than I expected. And it's let me keep using some more gimmicky characters like Mog and Paine past their expiration dates.
I'm honestly not a big fan of how Crystal Quests work, and I wish more of the passives weren't so situational compared to universally useful buffs like D1 and U1, but in general it's breathed some life into the game and helped give different players different experiences.
In my opinion, D3 and D6 are by far the most impactful Crystal Passives to have, so I'm grabbing those for the relevant colors (D4 and/or A5 where applicable). I'm not sure which color I'm going to max out first though. I think it will depend on what the future JP roster looks like at the time that I am finally done getting D3 and D6 on all of the colors I want it for. It will be Green if Rydia gets a (good) BT in that timeframe, it could be Black if Sice gets a (good) BT in that timeframe, and it could be Red if Minwu gets a (good) rework when he finally gets Echo. I'm not too concerned with the first few Crystal Abilities so I don't mind spreading the colors out
Once we get FE50 there'll theoretically be no limits on who they can shuffle around. What's really stopping them from giving us Faris BT for the first event after that? I'm looking forward to seeing how wild it gets.
What's interesting is that they could easily release characters like Gladio BT, Faris BT and especially Ultimecia FR, right now in GL, and the meta wouldn't change much. The top characters in JP have been the same for a year, the powercreep has been kinda stagnant.
>Early Queen to close this month >Kelger right after alongside Golbez after a little while >Followed by Lenna >Mystery IW inmediately after >Early stream for next month on an odd day
I'm officially worried.
The massive schedule break is a clear sign at this point. At best we're trying to jump around so storywise and with character releases we're on par with JP. At worst, this means EoS by the end of the year for at least us.
There's still way too much separating us from JP to even think about a merge. We're not gonna close that gap in one month, or two, or maybe even three.
I dunno much about Dokkan, is it like here where it's mostly PvE? Is there a PvP scene? Because like
Not sure how that will be beneficial, when SinoAlice did it it was to streamline the PvP component. Unless the unification of the servers really helps, I don't see the usefulness.
said, I could see the value in combining communities in this way, but otherwise I'm not sure what someone gets out of it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
It's 99% pve and the pvp content that's there is just who can grind/score the most. And it's indirect.
Not sure how that will be beneficial, when SinoAlice did it it was to streamline the PvP component. Unless the unification of the servers really helps, I don't see the usefulness.
I'm no math wizard, but I think we catch JP at anniversary. I don't know if there will actually be a merge, but I think we do catch JP around Jan/Feb
I thought the same about Dokkan, but after 8 years, it's happening.
There are many JP gacha games that have all decided within the last couple months to speed GL up to catch JP. I don't know what happened over there, but seriously it's like every one of them all realized at the same time that it's a bad idea to give GL players months of foresight
One of the other gachas I play also decided to speed up to catch the GL server up to JP. I don't think there's a merge planned but they want to start having stuff release simultaneously on both servers.
>Gotta love Auron
True. I solo'd everything with Auron except the last stage. I really liked that the boosted characters were not part of the lockout content. I hope that we get that same luxury whenever our next Dare to Defy is. It not only incentivizes you to build one of the boosted units, but it also gives you plenty of excuses to use them. I really hope they keep that for future lockout events
I just used Lightning/Serah/Random bonus unit for nearly everything.
The exceptions being that one dragon boss where you had to let him trigger his lufenia orb. And the jar bosses where I finally got to use DKC again.
So who should be priority for the upcoming banners in terms of usefulness for clearing any bs boss gimmicks? Kelger, Queen or Lenna? I can skip Enna because i have her full kit sans her BT, which i can token if necessary.
>Kelger
Rubicante tier broken, can solo stages with very little difficulty, if you were gonna go for his color at all then he's fantastic >Queen
Kinda niche but good, was talked about earlier in this thread actually, right here
Queen's got a lot of nice tools, but her damage is pretty mediocre and the characters she synergies well with are fairly uncommon. She gives party-wide Last Stand and a lot of BRV refund on HP attacks. Her BT effect essentially puts her in permanent Crazy Fricking b***h Mode where she's immortal, does good damage, and has a choice between an instant-turn-rate attack and a normal-speed attack so you have options. The BT also dramatically powers up party members' EX attacks and skills changed from HP or BRV attacks like Machina's Furious Blades or Rosa's Aim.
Her FR is really restrictive. You only get the full benefit for using melee skills changed from HP/BRV attacks. It does give a fantastic 50% increase to both HP damage and BRV cap if you do use one, though. It's a shame that there aren't many characters she works well with because of this and her BT effect. Noel is a fantastic partner for her. Machina's still good but he's showing his age and doesn't have an Echo. Reno can hit her conditions but Queen isn't meant for off-turn comps. Same thing goes for Auron. Getting the most out of her is tricky.
, I wouldn't say she's super necessary but might be fun to mess around with >Lennah
Very good, but also optional, has a lot of party utility wrapped up in a package that does a surprising amount of damage with followups, big thing is her debuff immunity which is always nice, and good auras, I'd say go for her if you were interested in White Crystal at all but if not I'd still consider her
This whole schedule shift really screwed with my plans because I want one of everything this month and I only have so much pull resources, I was already tight this month with Lennah, Enna Kros and Golbez and now they're dropping early Kelger, Queen and Strago? Sheesh.
Like the other anon said, Kelger is Rubicante #2, evasion edition. I think he's basically more damage but no gauge charge. Lenna FR is helpful to have due to Leviathan Spiritus apparently. There is some mechanic that wants your entire party to have >100% HP, so overheal really helps, but you can also use a different FR, ability, or D6. I don't know if there is also some other mechanic that she helps out with or not. For canceling the enemy Force Time, if you don't pull Lenna FR there is Rosa and Braska for current-ish characters, or Iroha and Maria for older ones. Llyud hasn't been a character in like a year
Something that I have not seen mentioned previously about Queen is that her FR is +50% HP cap up on changed BRV/HP attacks, and her BT gives another +50% HP cap up on changed BRV/HP attacks, so a cute thing that might be cool is if you pair her with Ursula for her +50% HP cap up on changed HP attacks and her HP attack battery. Probably not worth pulling either character for, but something you could try out if you do have both of them due to other reasons
Only thing I'm really pulling for is Kelger. I always hope/try for the FRs, but I'm still trying to break that habit. I really would like Golbez, but I went to pity on Ardyn in early Shinryu, didn't get the Golbez BT there, and I'm not gonna gem pull on a Garnet banner
>Crystal quest gave me Quistis boss >goes completely immune to damage unless delayed during most of its thresholds >Reroll >Reks boss >heals damage done and removes all buffs with counter move >no more free rerolls
Son of a b***h
Well I was expecting a VII character, since the 7th chapter always has VII things going on. Kinda neat, honestly. I'm sure the Red XIII fanboys are crying once again.
So the Turks will become baddies now? I'm not gonna be surprised if they add Elena first before Nanaki.
Just don't add Hojo, FFVII has already too much characters in this game.When Luneth, Arc, Refia and Ingus are near impossible to be included.
I'm guessing they're gonna wait until Rebirth gets released to add Elena.
And it's safe to assume we're gonna get the remaining Tsviet members. Angeal was also datamined and something tells me Genesis will show up at some point, Gakt voice and everything.
The real question marks are Loz and Yazoo. They've been teased in the story but who knows if they'll show up or not.
>Gakt and FFVII literal whos
I can take Genesis, but Angeal? Please not another "Cloud clone", and I hope they'll scrap him. There are better characters available that needs a rework. And if they'll add more characters, add more baddies like Hein, Adel, Yunalesca and Doctor Cid.
I'd rather have Edea before Adel. Then again, VIII hasn't received a new character in years despite Laguna's buddies and the aforementioned Edea being right there to use.
I'm also dead convinced that XII Cidolfus hasn't been added yet because his original VA died and they don't want to recast now. Japan has that tendency.
>I'm also dead convinced that XII Cidolfus hasn't been added yet because his original VA died and they don't want to recast now. Japan has that tendency.
I guess thats why Aulstyne won't have too much of a chance as well due to his JP VA beilng dead as well.
I'm fricking stoked. Rufus has always been one of my favorite Final Fantasy characters and I've been waiting since OO first came out in JP to see him appear in the game. I hope he has some nice animations like he got in the remake.
I started playing when Agrias was added. That was four years ago.
Yes but I only want Advance characters
I'm fine with that, mostly because it'll give them a chance to add more nonhumans. I want my crossover games to be weird. I don't want half the cast to be teenagers wearing red capes.
just learned this thread existed, im decently new to this game, been playing for a month. who are the people I should be pulling for in the next set of banners coming? I still dont know whos good or bad yet
Counter tanks (Rubicante, Beatrix, Auron) can solo lots of things on their own. Kelger coming up is in that category, but like Galuf he's more evasion focused. You should pull for Kelger 100%. He is able to solo tons of fights and a lot of the Crystal Quest stages as well, and the Sword UW is a pretty good UW to have built anyway. It's not like it's a Whip or (like Cater will be later) a Gun
Kelger is the only must pull of the next units. Lenna can be helpful, and she is very good, but not a must pull. Maybe pull up to her FR if you want to. Queen is an easy skip unless you like Queen. She has an immortality gimmick which is cute and she gives the party Last Stand, which I think is another gimmick that not many units have, but she's not anything to pull for unless you already know you want her. The whole month is like that really; it's a bunch of units who you have no reason to pull for unless you already know that you want them (besides Kelger). Kelger is a must pull, everyone else is skippable. Get up to Lenna's FR using tickets if you can just because she's helpful. Enna's value increases a little if you do not have Astos, but even if you do not have Astos I probably would not recommend that new players go out of their way to pull Enna's entire kit unless you just like her. The Enna Kros nuke thing requires too much setup for too little payoff at this point in the game when Astos functions that same way naturally and when other damage dealers like Aranea can put up somewhat comparable numbers more naturally
i did see Tifa was coming who im interested in, is she worth it? Also damn is using tickets to get up to FR normal? last time I tried that it took about 250 tickets. Also yes I do have astos, he's my most powerful character. I finally started to be able to beat crystal quests (at lvl 0) with him.
Tifa's a bit outdated at this point, but she has an Echo so she's still a fairly reliable damage dealer as long as you have her BT. Tifa and Squall have always had the same problem throughout the game's life span- they're pure big dick damage dealers with nothing else going on. So when they get updated, they're on a whole other level, but they quickly fall off as other characters with more utility catch up to them. But even as far as raw damage goes, Tifa obviously pales in comparison to Astos. And she's still outmatched by Aranea, who also rebreaks, delays, and launches, as well as Weiss and Dorgann who spread their damage to other characters' turns. Tifa just doesn't have much going for her right now.
>i did see Tifa was coming who im interested in, is she worth it?
If you have a Fist UW built for Rubicante then she can be worth it, sure. 10-12 HP attacks single target is still a good amount. She's not as crazy as she used to be but she's still useable. I would probably not recommend pulling her, but if you wan to it wouldn't be a bad idea
>Also damn is using tickets to get up to FR normal?
I've been playing for about a year and a half, so I have everything from every character except new FRs and then whichever BTs I didn't want. The only thing I use tickets for is to get FRs. Back in Lufenia+, I used tickets to get LDs. You can pretty safely pull LDs and FRs with tickets in most cases, and if you're actually new, I think there are over 10k tickets in permanent content for you to be clearing, so 250 is not much for you. Spending about 200 tickets for an FR is pretty normal I think
I see. Thanks for the information. I didn’t realize there were that many tickets to get, I already nabbed a bunch from the spiritus chests that gave 10k gems and 100 tickets each so I thought I was low since I went through those quick
>I didn’t realize there were that many tickets to get
There are, but the bulk of them are associated with the largest grinds in the game, Summon Boards (for the characters) and Divine Summon Boards. The good news is that you really only need to do the grinds once and then they're done forever (mostly; you might still need to grind character summon points when new ones come out). The bad news is that the grinds are pretty bad, and arguably they are even worse now that we never get "boosted" characters for them anymore. You should save your free premium mogpass for whenever you decide you want to tackle these grinds
>Divine = (400tickets*10summons) = 4,000 tickets >Character = (30tickets*172characters) = 5,160 tickets
So that's 9,160 tickets right there
>i did see Tifa was coming who im interested in, is she worth it?
If you have a Fist UW built for Rubicante then she can be worth it, sure. 10-12 HP attacks single target is still a good amount. She's not as crazy as she used to be but she's still useable. I would probably not recommend pulling her, but if you wan to it wouldn't be a bad idea
>Also damn is using tickets to get up to FR normal?
I've been playing for about a year and a half, so I have everything from every character except new FRs and then whichever BTs I didn't want. The only thing I use tickets for is to get FRs. Back in Lufenia+, I used tickets to get LDs. You can pretty safely pull LDs and FRs with tickets in most cases, and if you're actually new, I think there are over 10k tickets in permanent content for you to be clearing, so 250 is not much for you. Spending about 200 tickets for an FR is pretty normal I think
Oh shit, I also forgot that Noel is on the Enna Kros IW banner. At this point in the game, and especially because you already have Astos, I cannot really recommend Enna Kros. However, I do recommend getting Noel's FR if you have Dorgann and/or Cor. I don't really know if I'd recommend Noel on his own, but with Dorgann he does a lot of damage, and with Cor he has an infinite if you can delay your own team enough (via Crystal Passives or Reno or natural boss mechanics and/or turn order)
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(video of the upcoming Lenna Leviathan Spiritus with Noel/Cor infinite)
If, for some reason, you really want Queen, then Noel is one of the few characters that synergizes well with her. So that's another reason to consider him. Or you're one of the unhinged lunatics that decided to focus on upgrading yellow crystals in preparation for Sehl'teus.
Yup, same. I just considered starting a JP account because I could get Faris and her 18 HP attack trap, Gladio, and Rydia... but then I would be playing in a language I do not understand, needing to regrind everything again. Sucks
My Japanese is pretty shitty, but it's looking like Rufus has something like Astos where he gets an overhead that increases the damage he does by a significant amount. I believe it boosts his follow up though rather than having it apply to his general damage. Then it appears that Rydia is getting a counter attack or pre-emptive attack with her BT aura active so she is probably going to be pretty top tier for counter teams now. I imagine you'll see a lot of Rydia/Faris clears.
>Then it appears that Rydia is getting a counter attack or pre-emptive attack with her BT aura active
I think it batteries the party too, so that's pretty cool. I wonder if it will be strong enough for her to do Kelger solos, or at least Cater level solos. I still can't believe that Faris had her trap upgraded to fricking 18 HP attacks
I still don't understand why at this point EX and LD tokens aren't available just as regularly as red ones. They would help a lot.
>I still don't understand why at this point EX and LD tokens aren't available just as regularly as red ones
I'm guessing because the EX provides a sphere and because the LD provides a call. The 15/35 don't actually "do" anything, they're just necessary
My Japanese is pretty shitty, but it's looking like Rufus has something like Astos where he gets an overhead that increases the damage he does by a significant amount. I believe it boosts his follow up though rather than having it apply to his general damage. Then it appears that Rydia is getting a counter attack or pre-emptive attack with her BT aura active so she is probably going to be pretty top tier for counter teams now. I imagine you'll see a lot of Rydia/Faris clears.
Oh, and the Rydia counter looks like it inflicts [Feyfroth], which is her FR debuff that gives enemies -100% accuracy (+20% HP damage taken, -50% def) for 3 turns. I was wondering what they were going to do with Rydia's FR evasion-wise, because they gave Cater party wide 100% evasion, and I guess that's a different way to go about the same effect
>Then it appears that Rydia is getting a counter attack or pre-emptive attack with her BT aura active
I imagine Rydia will have a BT effect that will prevent her evasion buff to fall off, that will be so much better. And I hope with Basch' eventual BT/FR release they'll give him a counter attack BT effect.
Her BT counter inflicts a special blind debuff, so her evasion buff won't be necessary while it's up. Kind of a redundant way to go about it, but whatever works. At least it means you don't have to worry about the enemy taking too many turns and eating up all her evade stacks.
Pecil's new outfit. I think it looks like shit, but the few reactions I've seen seem to like it, so maybe I'm the crazy one. I definitely think they should have gone with his TAY costume to match Rosa and Edge.
So they said in the video that they are planning to introduce changes to how the FR gauge works but that the details will be released later. Do you guys think these changes will be better or for the worse?
We've only got rough translations to go by, but it seems like if you cancel the enemy's Force Gauge, they get Lufenia orbs instead. The entirety of Lufenia+ after c90 showed that Lufenia orbs can be just as lazy and boring as Shinryu fights where the enemy doesn't do anything outside of Force Time except let you kick them in the dick until they fall over, so we'll have to see. I predict most of them will just end up being fights where the character they're shilling can cancel Force Time AND tick up the orb themself, making it just as braindead if you're synergy stomping and a bigger pain in the ass if you aren't.
Actually it looks like enemies will no longer have FR time, so no need to worry about canceling it. Instead once they reach 100%, throw out a big attack and then that's it. But now at certain parts of the fight (hp percentages) or after FR activation or after you activate your FR, they'll get Lufenia-style orbs that you'll need to deal with.
>the point of FR echoes is to take extra turns while not wasting FR turns >let’s bring Lufenias orbs to counteract this
It doesn’t sound like a problem on paper, but all they have to do is make the orb count low or make it tick down fast with very special conditions to tick it up, and it’d be the most cancerous thing to these fights where bosses are just health sponges now.
The thing I hate the most about this era are the ticket missions. I don't even hate Shinryu as much as most people, but I really dislike having such an important reward being locked behind a specific character that you HAVE to use.
I want to believe the devs know this and this is why GL is getting so many exclusive lockout events
>The thing I hate the most about this era are the ticket missions
Yeah, same here. I've been completing the ticket mission ever since back last year when it was only 10 regular tickets instead of a 10+1 pull. I think it started around Dorgann, which was in November. Ever since whenever that was, I have had to have one slot in my party dedicated to dragging a unit I don't even like through a Shinryu fight. Echo actually made this a lot easier, but it's still moronic. The only times I've been able to actually use a team that I want to be using is Six-Warrior quests (because I only actually use 3 characters anyway) and then the lockout content as you mentioned. I feel exactly the same way
Between crystal quests with their obscene health pools with defensive force times with very specific break conditions, and with every odd numbered dare to defy arriving as unbalanced shit I'm cautiously unoptimistic.
They still need to go over the Six-Warrior Cater event, the Spiritus Alexander Deuce event, and the FuSoYa Lost Chapter before they can give us Selh'teus. I think they could have crammed those 3 events in from Sept 21st - Sept 30th and then started October off with Selh'teus and FE50. I actually think that's still what they're going to do, so I really don't understand why they split the streams up like this. I'm not expecting any "additional" surprises, so it's not really making any sense to me
The devs messed up the updates in GL like this before, doesn't necessarily mean it's happening right away. Like how Tidus had his Blitzball follow-up attack before his actual rework + LD/BT, and we only got it officially much later.
If I'm wrong though, good thing I got a bunch of cactuar tokens in the bank, lmao.
There's no way they'll give us Sehl'teus before FE50. I think that's just leftover data they forgot to expunge when they copied it over from JP. It happens sometimes. The most infamous example is when Tidus got a bugged version of his follow-up attack way before he was supposed to.
There's no way they'll give us Sehl'teus before FE50. I think that's just leftover data they forgot to expunge when they copied it over from JP. It happens sometimes. The most infamous example is when Tidus got a bugged version of his follow-up attack way before he was supposed to.
I know it won't happen, but an early Selh release would be sick
>Re-Shinryu >get one additional 10+1 ticket for completing (game is even more generous) >enemy Force Gauge functions more like the old recast bars did; the enemy does an attack when it fills, then it goes back to 0 >Lufenia orbs are back (this first one seems rather oppressive) >hopefully the orb mechanics will disincentivized spinning in circles spamming one empty button (i.e. "gauge charging") >this orb, for example, seems like a player will be -1 on a "gauge charge" turn unless there is some ranged gauge charger I can't remember >seems like it also punishes off turn strategies (-1 on best case scenario) >might have to actually use BT and Summon phases just to tick the orb up if you get behind (like old times) >will need to actually think about using calls or gauge charge or AA again, might need to think ahead and plan moves out (wow)
I'm looking forward to this. I really miss Lufenia orbs. Shinryu fights never fricking do anything. You just blow them up in a Force Time, charge the gauge if you want to be extra lame/efficient. They never fight back. Enemy Force attack is usually like a fricking BRV hit or something moronic, rarely if ever threatening. At least with a Lufenia orb, even if the enemies are still pushovers it will actually be possible that you can fail the fight if you don't manage the orb. I really look forward to the first fight that causes enemies to turn warp, take a million turns in a row, and then they pop the Lufenia orb that way, allowing units like Relm or Shelke or Leila to shine. Good times. I don't care what anyone says, Shinryu so far has been the real Garbage Time
>Rydia BT (counter attack that inflicts her -100% accuracy debuff) >Galuf FE50 >Minwu rework/Echo later this month
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Treating the enemy Force Attack like a recast that'll go off even if they don't take a turn is interesting. I'd like to see if it still pauses during your Force Time, because the way it works now I'd rather it didn't. I'm still waiting and seeing because like I said before, there were plenty of shitty, boring Lufenia fights so just adding orbs isn't going to instantly make things better, but the overall mechanics seem more solid. If nothing else, this helps balance out the roster. You still want your Force Time up so gauge chargers will still be useful, you'll just have to actually strategize when you can get away with it and the enemy won't just sit there and let you use Healing Wind eight times in a row. Off-turn attacks are devalued a bit (bit this depends on the orb- some Lufenias didn't tick down on enemy turns), but they can still react to enemy Force Attacks. And now turn warpers won't be completely worthless. This has the potential to create the best fights we've ever had in this game. All they have to do is actually put some fricking effort into the fights and not just give the bosses a generic BRV and a generic HP, with one AoE as a Force Attack like they've been doing.
>because the way it works now I'd rather it didn't
Yeah, if it's just a glorified recast gauge like it sounds like it might be, I would also prefer that it didn't pause during Force Time
>there were plenty of shitty, boring Lufenia fights so just adding orbs isn't going to instantly make things better
I disagree. In my opinion, a lot of people's complaints with Lufenia(+) could be solved by using LD only units. I think that especially during Garbage Time, the possible player power level was so much higher than the stage required that it the people who were taking 3 BT+ units to every single fight were essentially playing Lufenia+ the same way that everyone plays Shinryu now; by blowing the fight up in 10 turns. For those players, there was functionally no change when going from Lufenia+ to Shinryu. For the people like me who chose to have fun with LD only units in Lufenia+, we traded slow, methodical, puzzle-like fights for whatever the frick Shinryu is. I do admit that the absolute brainlessness of Shinryu has kinda grown on me more than I thought it would, but I still think that the player side woes of Lufenia were mostly due to players choosing to stomp everything with 3 BT+ units when I think the fights were balanced around LD only units, which is what I chose to use and I had fun doing it. Anyway though, I think that adding an orb does make a fight inherently better, since it can actually kill you if there's an orb. Shinryu fights cannot currently kill you outside of like Hell House (or Shiva Spiritus, but that's just you being walled, no you dying)
I hope the new difficulty fricking destroys solos and counter tanks as well as any cheesy strats like Quina/Ultimecia.
>destroys solos and counter tanks
Counter tanks are probably never going away unless there is an orb that punishes you for doing damage outside of your turn. Solos, however, will be dead in any instance where a "solo character" cannot reliably keep the orb at bay, even if they equip an appropriate call and/or sphere (so not entirely, but they will be rarer; you could still solo some in Luf+)
>If anything this encourages charging because it will give +3 (net +1) where ranged attack will net +0
Did you ever play Lufenia or Lufenia+, anon? Is there even a gauge charge move that is Ranged? If there is a gauge charging move that is Ranged and this gauge charge move provides 100% BRV, that would still only be +1
>If anything this encourages charging because it will give +3 (net +1) where ranged attack will net +0
Did you ever play Lufenia or Lufenia+, anon? Is there even a gauge charge move that is Ranged? If there is a gauge charging move that is Ranged and this gauge charge move provides 100% BRV, that would still only be +1
Actually, I see now that I misread your comment. Sorry. I also looked at Irvine, Cater, Amarant, and Rosa and their gauge charge moves are typeless (or magic?) and I'm unaware of any other ranged gauge chargers
This orb is probably meant for Rydia, whose counter attack batteries the party, with Pecil (or Rufus?) Ranged attacks. But you could probably also have Freya in the air with a team of Ranged attackers and fulfil the orb condition that way too, since Freya's spears battery the party. Sice traps are melee and Ace traps are Magic, so I don't think you can jank charge that way. I don't think you're gauge charging that orb. Not all orbs are perfect, not all orbs are always going to counter every bullshit way to play the game, but I think it's a step in the right direction because even if the enemy does nothing, at least the orb might
I did read misread his initial comment, but I don't know what he's talking about now. I don't see how the orb conditions supposedly encourage gauge charging, since the Ranged characters who have gauge charging moves have typeless charging abilities. If they hit the BRV condition, they wont tick the +2 condition. If anything, it actually encourages on-turn Ranged abilities that do not gauge charge but that do refund or battery
Alternatively, you could probably do some frickery like Beatrix, Gladio, and Freya so that every turn the enemy takes (-2) you can theoretically get +3 (+1 for each of their off-turn attacks since they all battery), but that would be very risky since your only Ranged damage would be Freya who does not have a BT phase to save you if the orb gets low
The funniest part is that they just jerked off VII for a month, there is even a character whose BT prevents the debuffs, but nope, Type-0! VII gets the CHAOS lol
>Details and Tips screens don't list enemy attacks >Force weakness to dark BRV attacks even though none of the synergy characters can do it (although now that I think of it, I guess Golbez must have originally overlapped with this event) >Buffs fall off at some point- presumably their attacks lowered my buff durations but I don't know for sure >Description says they use Eagleflame+ after their turns in Force Time but they never did- is it because I had Rydia Call up and they missed? No idea.
Someone did the Queen + Ursula changed HP attack spam setup with Reno, who has currently the most HP attacks on his changed HP. ~50 mil per with max gauge, which is a lot more than I expected. Much better than the "cute" that I called it earlier. That's actually Astos numbers (100 mil single target Astos vs 50 mil aoe 2 targets Reno, and would be 150 mil if 3 targets)
dunno what the frick I was doing with Ace but I did it, and I fricking never want to do this shit again. Total Sanctuary Keeper Death. Roundhouse kick Sanctuary keepers boil Sanctuary Keepers in a wok etc etc.
Since there is at least one newfriend here, I thought I'd post that both Gladio and Eiko are on the same banner together (Queen's), and both of them are pretty valuable LD calls. Eiko to revive (great for solo carrying a bronze ticket mission unit with Rubicante/Kelger) and Gladio to prevent damage entirely for a few turns. Gladio is also capable of being used as an LD only unit (and he has personal debuff immunity), though it's not really recommended if you can help it
So I bought ten tickets off the cactuar exchange and decided to spend them. Got this. How good is she? I was planning to give her a hard pass because I remember her being kind of awkward to use due to how she locks you out of skills with her overhead.
A pretty decent support that does almost acceptable damage (8 HP attacks) and provides party wide Last Stand (only Porom, Freya, and Lyse do this, so she's the most updated unit with that feature unless you count Rem's BT). She also provides extra damage boosts for units that use changed HP attacks or EXs as their main source of damage. The thing that's kind of a bummer about her is that you really only want to be pushing her S1, S2, or LD, because if you press her EX she starts getting fast turn rate, and you should absolutely have someone else in your party that does more than 8 single target HP attacks with 20% splash. She basically exists to buff another unit in your party that is spamming HP attacks (or EX attacks). She's kinda like Ursula in that regard
Does Cloud just have too many passives to equip? Compared to every other unit i've fully maxed, he NEEDS a UW to be able to equip all his passives and artifacts.
>this fricking Shinryu >boss always goes first >opening attack to take 60% off of everyone >have to restart the fight until they dont feel like using their plus AOE after the opening >applies debuffs immediately >counter if you have debuff >counter if you take too many turns >free debuff applying off turn >Only Type 0 units >but you can use a helper!
Good fight. Gooooooooood fight.
What team can i use to carry a non-built Queen thru her Shinryu? I tried to take Tifa and Aerith, but i fell short with one alive at 30%. Maybe a tank team of Rubi and Auron would work?
Rubi can work, yeah, but you want to get to your Force Time asap since Rubi only refills his HP when he is in his Force Time. Auron only works if you have D4. You have like 2k HP in that fight, so any tank you bring needs to have Last Stand and self sustain or Evasion, since the only guaranteed hit attack is the Force Time. You can use Rem BT to zombie the party. You can probably just blow it up with Astos too
Yeah, their HP is pathetic for a current Shinryu, so any of the current damage dealers like Astos, Aranea, or Weiss can decimate it once they're up and running. The hard part is surviving long enough to let them. Rem, Zack, or hell even Basch should help out.
If you have Astos he'll destroy it. I blew through it with Aerith, Astos and an unbuilt Queen. I had Yuna's Call on Aerith (to remove debuffs), Sezter Call on Queen and Lunafreya on Astos. Just charged wthe FR gauge with Aerith and then popped her BT when her FR was maxed. Queen went next and I used Sezter Call and one of her attacks. Then on Astos' turn I used his FR. Then let Aerith Echo -> Echo -> LD, Queen used one of her attacks and then used Lunafreya Call on Astos and went FR -> BT -> BT phase and annihilated them.
>mfw out of high armor tokens
Speeding up these character releases has made budgeting out realization materials harder. I've always made sure I've held on to 20, but I already used those on Nabaat
That sucks. At least you had the tokens and didn't have to go full double or triple pity. Nobody wants to seriously consider that it might happen to them, but
>had to go full pity for the BT >plus an extra 200 tickets for the FR and LD
That hurt, but with him in my roster I'm basically set for Red Crystal for life.
Similar happened to me, except I actually got the FR while climbing towards the BT, so I had to ticket just to get the LD.
[/spoiler]And of course I got the BT during said ticket pulls AFTER I pitied it... fml
On my way to pity the BT as soon as i scratch up enough gems for the last multi. Judging by the thread i should be happy i got the rest of his weapons, but frick im broke for at least 2 months.
This Shinryu Crystal mission is rough. Any ideas for getting through it? The enemies blind you, you have to kill both of them at the same time or they respawn, and there aren't any FF9 characters who can prevent or remove debuffs or FR charge and most of the FF9 FR characters I have are better for off-damage than on-turn damage means that they'll blind someone, which will probably result in you killing one before the other.
>Any ideas for getting through it? >The enemies blind you >have to kill both of them at the same time
Just go into Force Time, grab an Aerith friend, charge the percentage, and then nuke with Echoes. Use Hope (and others if needed) to buff clog so that Blind can't land. It's so much easier than the Sanctuary Keepers
I've been trying that. But by the time I get into FR time, my characters have been blinded and with so many attacks missing, one of the enemies is half dead and the other is still mostly full. At that point I can't kill them both off at the same time, and just get stuck in a loop where they keep resummoning one another.
>I've been trying that. But by the time I get into FR time, my characters have been blinded
Use the calls way sooner then. Hope and Gladio are my go to buff clog calls. Garnet has 2 party buffs. That's 5 of 6 buffs right there, and whoever you're bringing probably has a couple buffs. Also, the speed down one isn't really bad to have and that's another thing that clogs a buff slot. If Force Time is really taking you that long to get to, you can reapply the calls before you actually go into Force Time. Avoiding the Blind is incredibly easy. If you're killing one before the other, then maybe do one round of Echoes at the beginning, and then pop summon to do the second round of Echoes. You should be doing like 10mil+ at least with each Echo so it shouldn't be too difficult to kill them both at the same time unless you're new and don't have any of the FFIX Echo units built, in which case I don't have any advice to give
i finally managed to lvl 5 my first ultima weapon for astos, which weapon type should i start to level next? basic sword like Weiss uses? greatsword for auron?
That's a question for you to answer. Which units do you find yourself using the most? Are there any units you are looking forward to? What weapon type do they use?
Unique is the only UW that I have never dismantled. I've considered once or twice, but have never actually done it, because there always seems to be a few insane Unique UWs, even before Astos existed. Greatsword is another one that's always good. I have dismantled Greatsword before many months ago, but Beatrix made me bring it back. Sword is a popular one, but I personally don't like it as much as other people, though Kelger is pretty huge. Fist UW is really good, but it's basically only for Rubicante as far as current meta goes. Dagger has Rem and Reno. Spear has Aranea and Quina, and Quina's damage is slept on a lot I feel. I used to really like Staff, basically only because Minwu, but I think it's fallen out of favor since Echo happened. The others are generally significantly less useful, and you'd only really have them if you have a personal favorite that uses something like Gun, Bow, or Whip
>no Kelgar bt >not enough gems to pity >have to wait until leviatan spiritus to finish the banner
If they drop Faris, Fujin, Keiss, or Gladio early, I might actually rage quit.
>If they drop Faris, Fujin, Keiss, or Gladio early, I might actually rage quit.
I know that feel, bro. This speedup shit is bananas. Not only that, but my luck seems to be getting worse as time goes on. I originally planned to pull Cater, but I might have to skip her because I'll need to pull Selh'teus since he's new. Everything in this picture is within 4 months of today
>If they drop Faris, Fujin, Keiss, or Gladio early, I might actually rage quit.
I know that feel, bro. This speedup shit is bananas. Not only that, but my luck seems to be getting worse as time goes on. I originally planned to pull Cater, but I might have to skip her because I'll need to pull Selh'teus since he's new. Everything in this picture is within 4 months of today
Same here, these next months were already gonna be pretty hard for me but with all the schedule shuffling they are doing, things are going to be even harder, just this month I'm gonna have to rely REALLY hard on luck to get what I want, and Kelger didn't really give the best first impression...
I kinda regret not making an alt when we had the Rubicante rerun at the same time as the Astos banner. I could have coasted through everything with Rubicante, Astos, and Kelger. Now I don't even know if I'll still have gems by the time Rydia comes, especially because I want the Faris and Gladio BTs too, so that's 3 BTs back to back to back and I can only really ever guarantee myself to have 50 BT tokens
Got Kelger's BT with 530 tickets, nabbing at least 4 copies of the rest of his kit along the way, except for his EX which I only got 3 of. I then gave him Eight's, Weiss', and Snow's spheres.
Has really good numbers and covers a lot of different roles, from damage dealing, defense and party buffing all in one slot. He generally works for any content and his utility means he might actually beat Astos for a slot if the mechanics in a fight are too restrictive. And a BRV Freeze aura is always nice. He's got a lot of nice things that you might not specifically need but would probably find use in somewhere, even Crystal Quests.
I'm sure people would rush to say "BUT YOU DON'T NEED HIM BECAUSE ASTOS!!!" but I'll tell you he's really nice to have even with him, if you have the resources.
If you're asking because you're new and you genuinely don't know, then ignore Golbez, though I will always recommend that a newbie throw a few tickets at each banner to try to at least get the LDs. He's for people who already know that they want Golbez, and in almost all of those cases, they're pulling because Golbez, not because of what he does, and I say that as a FFIVgay
His damage isn't the greatest given the current damage dealing landscape where you have even supports doing ~10 HP attacks per turn. You'll need a way to guarantee his EX recharges every turn in order for him to deal truly decent damage, so Queen is a good partner, but if you do that then you're essentially using 2 supports just to turn one into an okay damage dealer, which isn't really ideal team building. His BT effect, BRV Freeze, is very nice especially because it's on a BT effect and cannot be dispelled (and you can use D3 and D6 to "extend" its duration) but you can also get BRV Freeze on a Setzer call or a Cater call and that will probably cover whatever you need it for anyway. His FR is probably the best part of his kit; the ever elusive party-wide Dark enchant, with +50% HP damage cap up, which is almost a necessity on any "main" FR nowadays. If you put him on a team, it's probably to use his FR as the driving FR while using his BT effect to lock down any dangerous enemy attacks (hint: in Shinryu, enemies tend to not be even the slightest bit dangerous). You'd probably be using someone else's BT phase, not his, and depending on who you're using as your main damage dealer, it might not even be beneficial to be using Golbez's FR as the driving FR
That said, Shinryu is easy. You can definitely use him as damage dealer if you want. There's some Freya autist that uses Golbez just because his FR partner is Freya (and uses Freya!). Looks like his most recent video is when he got his FE50 (synergy)
What even was the issue? The way Josh mentioned it on stream, he seemed very dismissive of it. It gave me the feeling that in order for people to be encountering this error, they must be doing something nefarious
It affected people with certain phone models, they couldn't launch the game after a specific update. I think the reason they were dismissive was to sweep it under the rug because that bug had been around since late July and they kept ignoring the complaints.
>FF6
I have a shit luck on every banner for months now. Then, even the event is against me. I dunno if my only FF6 fully built character Celes can pull this off.
Yeah, same. I only have Celes built. I fricking hate these series requirements. I like crystal color or weapon type requirements a lot more, especially because all the series that I have more than one character built for are all relegated to Chaos and Lufenia shit
I don't want to waste my CB points for my FR/BTless Setzer just to clear this. It feels like my Celes can do it, but the mechanic that I can't grant buffs makes it impossible for me to clear it.
I completely forgot that Strago had an FR already, but it really came in handy here. Mog carried as always. I can't believe I thought I'd never end up using him. Since I've started enhancing blue crystals, he's been absurdly useful.
I will be a bit dissapointed if they don't make another Crevasse, but it won't be a complete surprise, they seem to like D2D more as a lock-out/pull bait event.
As expected and as was evidenced from Lufenia/+, solos are not going away, you just wont be able to solo stages where a solo-capable character cannot keep the orb at bay so they should in theory be less frequent
Can't say I'm surprised, still a bit iffy on how positive or negative a change these Shinryu Orbs will be, but I guess any change is better than no change.
The BT should have involved her mom's dragon, because that would have been way more thematic and made more sense, seeing as how it's a counter attack on evasion (just like Cold Mist is), and I don't think it makes any sense for Flare Tornado to result in an effect that does a water counter attack on evasion, but also that's kinda just what Flare Tornado looked like. I think they chose poorly, it should have had something to do with her mom's dragon kinda like how the Faris BT shows Syldra (and the Faris Syldra effect causes the Whirlpool counter) but as far as the actual animation for Flare Tornado, it looks fine compared to the source material
If they add Luca, I won't be surprised if they add Cidney as her FR partner. But what even Cidney does beside being a mechanic? And if she doesn't get in, who will be Luca's better FR partner since those suitable for her are already taken.
I was gonna say Barret for obvious reasons, but he's already paired with Setzer.
Also, they made movesets out of characters who had nothing before, Cidney showing up is a credible threat.
As expected and as was evidenced from Lufenia/+, solos are not going away, you just wont be able to solo stages where a solo-capable character cannot keep the orb at bay so they should in theory be less frequent
I think The After Years is a total waste of time and would never play it again, but in a crossover like this I actually do want to see the characters in their latest forms. I may not like TAY, but it's still neat seeing Cecil, Rosa, and Ceodore interacting, along with all the aged-up designs. I find it way more annoying that the FFXIV characters are stuck in stasis where none of the original Scions can go past their ARR incarnations and even the Leveilleur twins are really outdated. The FFVII characters are in this weird middle-ground where they totally don't have memories after Disc 1, but they're constantly dealing with Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus content and Cloud has Omnislash ver.5 anyway.
>I find it way more annoying that the FFXIV characters are stuck in stasis where none of the original Scions can go past their ARR incarnations and even the Leveilleur twins are really outdated.
I fully expect the XIV characters to forever be stuck in that stasis too, probably in the SB era. Bringing everyone up to their ShB era looks and abilities is probably way too much to ever expect, but at least we'll probably get Zenos, or Hien, or Yugiri someday.
>Bringing everyone up to their ShB era looks
Considering that Y'shtola's HW outfit is a paid costume, and considering Yuna's X-2 outfit is a paid costume, and considering Edge's TAY outfit is a paid costume, and considering Golbez's TAY outfit is a paid costume, I'm gonna go ahead and assume that if they are ever put in the game that they will be paid costumes
true, they could, but this isn't just a costume change for these characters, most of the time it's an entirely new class they're shifting into with new weapon styles, it's way closer to DRK/PLD Cecil than just a costume swap, and that's still the only character they've done this for
if you wanna get really autistic there's even a narrative hurdle, in that the XIV characters have already regained their memories...but at the time that they did, SB was the most current expansion, they could easily do what they did for VII and have them just pluck newer characters from the current expansions and put them in here for the fish out of water scenario but I doubt they'll ever fully update the cast they already have to meet them, at best have their eventual new weapons reference EW class mechanics like how Yda's FR uses EW Monk rotations
Yda/Lyse is definitely the odd one out, because you could make the technicality that "well akshully they're different characters" but it's basically the only other time they've done this same character/two forms business. And the weird thing is they're even still the same class, just using different parts of it. SB was the hot new thing at the time, and I guess that pushed them to use their current face of it. Technically Y'shtola, Thancred and Alphinaud would need to be updated at the least, but I could see Alphinaud's SGE stuff working as his BT with wing follow-ups. And Urianger not being added at all means they can easily add him without worry.
If they were gonna bring anyone in from future expansions like they've done with VII's complation stuff, I expect G'raha, want Estinien and my long shot pull is Venat. God I want Venat.
You know, the more discussion I see about FFXIV's state in OO, the more I can understand the devs for keeping them that way (usual other reasons discussed aside).
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the development shift in XIV really screwed them, so it's not really anyone's fault aside from SE as a whole, chances are if they could've kept XIV upkept, we might've actually kept the cast far more up to date but since they couldn't get into contact with the dev team for the longest time, the one game in this franchise that's constantly getting updated was left alone for far too long
I don't blame them for not wanting to touch it either, because there's clearly some things that they're not capable of doing, but they're also things that would make all the sense in the world to do, so they're at a bad spot right now, best case scenario they keep giving older characters reworks and throw Zenos in there because he's the only face from NT that hasn't made the jump yet and there's not a single doubt in my mind that they've had a model ready for him for years
Yda/Lyse is definitely the odd one out, because you could make the technicality that "well akshully they're different characters" but it's basically the only other time they've done this same character/two forms business. And the weird thing is they're even still the same class, just using different parts of it. SB was the hot new thing at the time, and I guess that pushed them to use their current face of it. Technically Y'shtola, Thancred and Alphinaud would need to be updated at the least, but I could see Alphinaud's SGE stuff working as his BT with wing follow-ups. And Urianger not being added at all means they can easily add him without worry.
If they were gonna bring anyone in from future expansions like they've done with VII's complation stuff, I expect G'raha, want Estinien and my long shot pull is Venat. God I want Venat.
It's a fricking mess if you use the regular menus that they've just had to keep shoving more and more shit in over the years, but luckily they added a section in the character's status screen that just tells you everything you're missing and gives shortcuts to them all. Plus all characters automatically get set to level 70 when they join so a new player doesn't need to touch any of that shit to hit the ground running. By comparison, I started playing Fate Grand Order recently and I was surprised at how simple and intuitive the UI is in comparison, but also at how the game wants new players to go frick themselves because just leveling up my characters enough to reach second ascension was a total uphill climb.
200 tickets for one Lenna FR, not even a dupe Noct FR along the way to replenish my high powerstones. No BT so I guess Lenna gets to continue to live on the bench.
>nothing on the free pulls >throw tickets, get 3 Noctis FRs (already maxed) >200 tickets for Lenna's FR >back down to zero tickets (well, 40)
Ever since the schedule sped up my luck in all categories has been absolute total and complete dogshit
>BT from free multi ticket >FR after a single 10 ticket pull
Guess I'm using her after all, might as well since I had to skip nearly every one else this past couple of weeks
I'm thinking I might wait until all three sets of this batch are released before doing them. FFIX being used twice last time almost threw me for a loop.
Astos did like 90 million with his attack on the last turn of FR time and took the remaining malboro from 28% to dead in one hit. He was definitely the best investment I've ever made.
Possibly but I don't think so. The boss FR time basically makes them invincible for 20 turns. Also at 69% the boss does a huge split attack that ignores Evade. I think if Kelger took the full damage he'd die. Maybe you could try and cheese it with a Sezter Call immediately before, but it would be tricky.
I don't think he can, but if your Lenna has FR FE30 and at least FR Cor with 5/5 Unique Ult. weapon FE30, It's quite easy. Just remove their speed passives and don't let the enemies get to force time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzjUIHIp5iA
If you can "solo" (carry) a ticket mission, this guy will have done it. It apparently requires at least D4 to "solo". I don't think Kelger can do a legit solo of this stage. He can live the 69% threshold via Llyud's absurdly busted normal call, but that same threshold attack also applies debuffs, and Kelger cannot both live the attack *and* deal with the debuffs, he must pick one or the other, and yet he cannot. If you have a fully maxed out red crystal room, you might be able to do it with Sylph summon, that one passive that lowers debuff chances, and Llyud call
Found a vid where Kelger carries LD Lenna with help from Cor, so I think I'll try that, thanks.
Though it'll have to be after SE Bridge maintenance which I think starts in 5 minutes and lasts six hours if I understood timezones correctly (which I often don't).
I don't think he can, but if your Lenna has FR FE30 and at least FR Cor with 5/5 Unique Ult. weapon FE30, It's quite easy. Just remove their speed passives and don't let the enemies get to force time.
If you can "solo" (carry) a ticket mission, this guy will have done it. It apparently requires at least D4 to "solo". I don't think Kelger can do a legit solo of this stage. He can live the 69% threshold via Llyud's absurdly busted normal call, but that same threshold attack also applies debuffs, and Kelger cannot both live the attack *and* deal with the debuffs, he must pick one or the other, and yet he cannot. If you have a fully maxed out red crystal room, you might be able to do it with Sylph summon, that one passive that lowers debuff chances, and Llyud call
Ever Crisis will last at least until Part 3 comes out. How many years is that. 2? 3? ...4? I love this game but I don't know if it has 3 years left in it
At this point I'm not gonna be betting against OO. It was originally made as a promotional tie-in for a game whose servers shut down like three years ago, but it's still going.
I don't know if I care enough about the Enna Kros/Noel banner to bother with the ticket mission this time. I have Lenna's FR and a bow UW so it shouldn't really be a problem, but I did my first attempt with an unoptimized party and ran out of FRs with 15% left in their life bars. And the whole time I was thinking, "Aranea, Weiss, and Rosa could completely destroy this stage," so I did that instead. Dunno if I feel like trying again just for the sake of getting another chance at two characters I will never use.
You probably want Noel's FR because it pairs well with Dorgann and you can also create an infinite using it at Cor (and/or probably Maria). I still think Enna Kros was overhyped even back when she was deleting Shinryus in 3 turns, so I'm not the guy to ask about her
If you have Lenna's FR the ticket mission should be easy. You got Kelger, right?
I'm just having trouble dealing enough damage, even with Kelger and an outrageous damage dealer like Golbez or Astos. Lenna's completely dead weight here and with their HP gates I don't have room to mess around. Plus, they just murder you after 20 turns so I can't drag out a second Force Time. I can make it work, but I just do not think it's worth it right now. I'm not having fun, especially knowing how effortlessly I can and have got the S rank without Lenna dragging me down.
I don't use cheese strats like Quinamecia or Ydaroth so I'm not using the Cor/Noel infinite. Dorgann pairs well with a lot of characters I already have, Aranea being the biggest argument against investing in Noel even if I get him. Realistically I'm never going to use Noel over Aranea.
I'll probably still end up doing it once I get over my butthurt, but I can't believe how fricking annoying this is.
>I'm just having trouble dealing enough damage, even with Kelger and an outrageous damage dealer like Golbez or Astos. Lenna's completely dead weight
I would not really classify Golbez as an outrageous damage dealer who can be mentioned in the same breath as Astos, but with off turn units, especially ones like Rubicante and Kelger that reduce their own turn rate, you don't use a 3rd character, so it would just be Kelger and Lenna with no 3rd. It's a pretty braindead run if you have Lenna's FR, because Echo only costs 800 enhancement points. Remember to remove everyone's speed passives, especially Lenna's
We might not finish the raid co-op missions for the first time. It's only a couple tickets which is meaningless but still, I think it's proof they should retire this archaic event mode or at least rework the co-op rewards. There's no reason to play the raid more than 5 or so times when that's enough to get all the single player rewards and there's no co-op shop so there's no need to grind it like all other co-ops either. And they still expect people to run the four sub-par bannermates though the fight 30,000 times each?
Yeah, I saw a little while ago that we're probably not going to hit those thresholds and I just cannot give a shit. I used to be one of the ones dragging outdated characters into co-ops, but there's just way too big a gap between the "five stars" and the other characters on the banners these days. It's the devs' fault for expecting anyone to want to drag characters that haven't been touched in two years through a Lufenia alongside Force Echo characters. Even if it is easy to get carried, it's not fun for anyone involved.
It's a little bit funny because Gladio, an actually usable untouched character, got his quest finished. It's just the (almost) literally unsable characters that didn't get theirs completed. There wasn't even a co-op shop, so there's not anything to farm, so there's no reason to be macroing the same stage over and over again with Leon
I tried to get Leon hits for a while and then did a few Leon/Eiko/Sazh solo runs but with GL speedups and weekly crystal bullshit there's just too much other shit to do.
Another week, another 15 minutes of whiteknuckling my yellow crystal team through a 525 million hp boss where a single misstep means reset and barely killing it on the last turn of my second force time.
At least I'm two thirds of the way through this. I hear whales already have access to their first crystal ability, that's quite the gap.
>BT effect applies debuff for 8 turns on enemy that poisons them for 1% of their HP every turn >(this could potentially be just a straight up 16% damage attack to the enemy, but spread out over 16 of their turns) >BT also gives change HP attack with 11 full aoe hp attacks >LD call is 10 HP attacks
I think he's just like a really cracked out supportish type character that also does good levels of damage like new support characters tend to do nowadays, especially considering that Tifa and Lightning are ~12 HP attacks single target only. There's also Noel, who will be doing ~13 HP attacks single target, but he has a +50% HP damage cap up FR vs Lightning's +30% HP damage cap up one. And then Cater for off turn. Not a bad upcoming month for Yellow
Nice, I forgot Noel was yellow. I have his BT already but never really invested in him, so I'll be sure to snag his FR and dump some mats into the guy. Thanks for the info on the MMO guy too.
Now I gotta ask why the hell you went with yellow crystals in the first place. It was clearly the worst option when it was added, and I figured that people going with it were holding out for Selh'teus and other characters in the long term like Noel, Cater, and Lunafreya's Echo. Not trying to pick on you, I really want to know what made you pick yellow?
8 months ago
Anonymous
I'm the other guy (not Yellow Crystal anon) and I still think White is worse. It might just be that I don't personally enjoy nearly any of the White characters, but even in JP it's not looking so hot. There's like Arciela and Deuce, that's it. At least Yellow has/had Tifa, Lightning, Balthier (actually really good damage surprisingly) Sherlotta, Quistis, and then coming up Noel, Cater, Selh'teus, and Luna
What does White have? Arciela and Deuce, which GL doesn't have yet. You can put Lenna and Enna on that list too, but I dunno man. It's a short list of pretty mid characters to me. I'm not saying you can't do the fights with them because luckily the game is easy, but White is just a bunch of characters that pretty much all do the same thing at exactly the same power level (mid). I don't even know what could save White in my eyes. They'd have to turn Gau into an even more gigachad version of Rubicante and they'd have to turn Emperor into the new Astos
8 months ago
Anonymous
Because Tifa. I will be doing Blue second because Cyan.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Because Cyan
Based. FR/BT when?
8 months ago
Anonymous
That and Umaro (and the almost impossible dream of Benjamin) are all I want before EoS.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>(and the almost impossible dream of Benjamin)
I will never stop hoping. I would also take Phoebe
I always got the feeling Spiritus and Materia would last playable characters released to signify the direness of the situation at the end, but I don't know anymore at this point.
So after clearing the ticket mission and series mission (use V/XV/FFCC only) with Lenna/Kelger/Cor following the vid I linked above, I was looking of a replacement for Cor to do the weapon mission (use bow/sword/dagger only).
Turns out, the best replacement for him is...nothing! Found this amazing vid that was very easy to replicate:
If you have Lenna's FR and a fully built Kelger, this duo will clear the ticket mission, the series mission AND the weapon mission, all in one easy run!
Now I just need to clear the Spiritus with black/white/yellow crystal characters only. Lenna and Astos are obvious picks, I guess I'll use Auron as my third. I saw a clear that used Astos/Auron/Quina but relied on black crystal passives that I don't have.
I may have had to spend 30k EP for this clear but at least it's over. I'm really just burning through my EP as of late, even on a budget. And it's about to get even worse with FE50 coming up, yeesh. >but you don't need it
Yeah, until I will.
>Leon mission is almost done >do a couple more runs before event ends >Raid tab disappeared so now there's no way to get the tickets even if we did complete it
Outstanding.
>>Raid tab disappeared so now there's no way to get the tickets even if we did complete it
Didn't complete it. It looks like every quest that was completed stays for 24 hours
So I recently got back into to the game after a near 10 month hiatus. I'm slowly catching up on content and currently am focusing on LC/IWills for quick rewards. For refrence I'm only as far as Act3. Chapter10 story wise. I also have 16 IW's to do and 5 LC's. Also I've yet to complete a single six warrior quest or Spiritus summon. Pic related.
Regarding my roster, the only fully built BT/FR units I have are Lightning, Cor, Machina and Tifa. Though recently I managed to snag Jihls kit, along Lenna, Garnet, and Noctis's FR. Currently I'm working towards getting Kelger. Overall my roster feels a bit lacking specifically in the Force Guage charger department. I've been able to get by with Selphie Penelo(No BT/FR) and Yuna w/BT(Is she even a charger?), but I fear at a certain point they are not going to cut it. Already Penelo is starting to feel like dead weight. Literally Cor and Lightning have carried me through the past several Shinryu's I've done.
Anyone have any tips on where should put my focus, or any essential upcoming pulls I should consider?
Honestly, I feel like Lightning + Cor + Garnet will probably be able to clear most fights. But yeah, grab a tank like Kelger. Kelger + Cor can solo a ton of fights. Also maybe consider Noel. Noel + Cor can cheese a lot of fights too via infinite off-turn attacks.
Welcome back, anon. There's a WoI event right now for Leviathan, you might want to check it out.
I can't give roster advice but you might be able to trivialize old Shinryu with an Astos friend (try it, it's absurd). Alternatively you can consider bringing a friend Aerith or Iris for chargers (for the on-going Shinryu the only reward you miss for bringing a friend is a multi on the next banner). Regarding chargers, they typically need to have their Force Enhancements maxed in order to be efficient, so be careful when managing resources.
>Anyone have any tips on where should put my focus
Pull Kelger. He can solo pretty much any fight that does not have guaranteed attacks, and even if they do, as long as it's just some Force Gauge related attacks or a threshold attack, you could bring a Gladio call and immune it. He will be very useful for you, because he can solo most (all?) of the crystal color quests, giving you pretty easy Red room for the foreseeable future
>or any essential upcoming pulls I should consider?
Cater coming up is a gauge charger and she is also an evasion tank like Kelger is, except she has BRV Freeze in her kit too so she can deal with more problems, though Deuce is probably *the* near-future force charger to get. Selh'teus is another good pickup, but is not a gauge charger. For the current needs expressed in your post, I would recommend pulling Kelger and Deuce, and then if you have gems left over you can begin considering the others. Next stream is Sept 21st
Oh, also, you need Echo now. It's a separate branch of the enhancement boards. You only need to put 800 points in to be able to unlock Echo, and you only need an FR to be 1/3 in order to use it twice in a fight. Enhancement Points requirements to max out a character have increased, but if you're only using them to complete the ticket mission, it's basically still just as cheap, and you actually get a pretty significant power boost with just those 800 points so I weirdly think that minimum investment characters are actually a better value now overall... but you do want the FR and the 800 points. Not strictly necessary, but very helpful for completing the ticket missions
Im wondering why the frick they're doing stupid shit like puting HP gates on a 600 million boss.
Its like theyre trying to make people quit the game. It doesnt make it harder, it makes it moronicly tedious.
We have not had an HP gate in a very long time, and I think that there are not very many more in the future either. I also didn't even realize they had HP gates because I used Kelger
Enna tonight! She's a fave so I'm going for her BT even though I don't need it and don't even know what it does. I only have just barely enough gems to pity a single BT, so I think I'll token hers as I already have her FR. Ah, but I only have enough tokens for one BT...man, I need some luck in the near future if I want anything else.
It rounds damage up so that if you're doing 101,000 damage, you will actually be doing 200,000 damage. Situationally busted, because it can round (for example) 210% HP damage cap up to effectively 300% HP damage cap up. Also Holy and Dark enchant
For me, I got Noel's BT with tickets sometime during Lufenia, so I'll be using my free pulls on Enna's BT banner to get Noel's FR. I'm not bothered one way or the other about Enna'a BT. I was one of the people looking forward to the Enna Kros combo back in early-mid Shinryu, but I actually had less fun doing that than I did using FE0 Cor and Gladio and/or Minwu. Her role in the party seems to be somewhat different now, but I'm still not too enthused; she just turned out to be not really my taste. I do love me some hanakana though
Thanks but fug, I got Noel's FR from the four multi tickets and nothing else. Gonna have to burn all my BT tokens to get Enna's BT.
>(and the almost impossible dream of Benjamin)
I will never stop hoping. I would also take Phoebe
There is a tiny chance considering pretty much the only time Ben's appeared again is in Theatrhythm and the director of that game is actually OO's director iirc.
So I could've just stopped at getting Enna's BT from tokens and taken the free rolls, and yet I went for Noel's BT too anyway because if I ever went Yellow Crystal, he felt nice to have in my back pocket. One full BT pity later, and I got it, but I'm down to 230k crystals. Funds looking not so deep, especially since Strago is next and Sehl'theus not long after. I don't NEED to get Strago, but I like him, and I'm going all in for Green Crystal, so I feel like I gotta at least think about it...even if my gems won't be happy.
>I'm going all in for Green Crystal, so I feel like I gotta at least think about it
Bro, Green has Rubicante, Iris, Dorgann, Sephiroth, Raines, Rem, and Ace. Later, Green will have Rinoa, Fujin, Cissnei, Yda, and Rydia. You do not need Strago for Green
Obviously not, I don't have any trouble clearing anything, really, but again, I like him, and from everything I've invested so far he'd be way better for me because of that, so that's still tempting. At this rate I might go into Yellow next because of Sehl'theus, and because my Yellow's been slowly improving over time.
what the frick are these ticket pulls? either A: all my future luck is gone, or B: this is making up for the past few months being nothing but max pity
Did you save any Noel EXs? Now that I'm at like end end endgame, I've found myself blowing tickets on banners just for extra EXs that have really good spheres, and I save every EX I pull. Noel's is really good, so it might have been worth it to keep one or two for your future self
Bros, the normal content is now so easy that the most enjoyment I get out of the game are the Dare to Defy events. I hope they didn't forget about the Crevasse and that we end up getting it this month
I think if they add more XIV, he'll be the first one we get, since they have all of his NT animations still in the back unused and he's STILL crazy popular even after his sendoff
Mostly because the XIV team has been crazy busy doing XVI's development for this long and they find it customary to get into contact with the people who have a say over those characters before doing anything with them, you can pinpoint the exact time they stopped having contact with them and it was right about when ShB started development and were only just recently freed if Yda getting her BT/FR was any indication
if it was any other game in the franchise, it'd be whatever, but for it to happen to XIV, a game that's constantly evolving its characters, was disastrous for its character lineup and might not ever fully recover
honestly, not very soon, if I had to guess, even Jack waited a few months until after his game had come out, and with both XIV and Tactics now freed from development hell (lot of the same people), there might be more priority there to make up for lost time than immediately jump into new hotness, especially if they're going to update XVI down the line, which means they'll have later opportunities to strike the XVI iron while it's hot
If they add XVI (of course they will), then we will have more actual irredeemable "villains". What, out of hundreds of characters in game, it only has 15 or less baddies. The story needs more buttholes for it to be more interesting. Or just add Hein and Yunalesca, because they look cool.
I don't know if I'm missing something or if it's a glitch, but the Shinryu fight in the latest Crysal Mission, they have the Needle Shower attack which is gravity based so it should never kill. However it always instakilled my Cor and Enna Kros, and they were both Crystal enhanced. Everyone else that wasn't enhanced stayed at 20% HP like normal.
Been playing Ever Crisis for a while now and somehow I have the sinking feeling the three stooges from First Soldier will show up eventually here.
And while the feel relatively unique in their movesets, VII is rivalring Type-0 for oversaturating at this point, we don't need more than what we're already expecting (Red XIII, Elena, the Tsviet and possibly Loz and Yazoo).
>beat Shinryu fight >return to event menu to pick the Lufenia >am now stunlocked by an error code >every time I restart the game, as soon as I navigate away from the homescreen I get this error
rip
batch download is an infinite loop for me, never loads anything to download
Batch Download completed but it didn't seem to do anything. Everytime I go to the missions tab, I still get a screen saying there's an update and takes me back to the start screen. RIP 300 daily gems
My game was hanging at the startup screen, but there turned out to be a new version on the Play Store. After I downloaded it the game started running fine again. My guess is that the game updated after the Bridge maintenance but they forgot to make you download it or something. And the old version would just work until it didn't anymore.
>Previous Raid was the first time in the game's history that we didn't clear all of the character missions >Current Raid removed character missions entirely
Glad they realized that no one's going to want to use fricking Rude in this fight.
Every co-op shop should have a Shinryu. It takes one 3x book and the like 1 or 2 more fights to buy everything out. I thought it was going to be shit at first, but that might be the best change they've made in Shinryu
The gap between Lufenia and Shinryu is just too big at this point. Lufenia co-ops aren't fun for anyone since all you do is spam Echoes and watch the fight die in two hits, but Shinryu co-ops require too much coordination so nobody bothers and just uses skip tickets. Co-op has always been the weakest part of this game, but the last time it was this bad was when we were deep into the Lufenia era but co-op only went up to CHAOS, with an absurd fricking grind to clear out the shop.
For the first time in who knows how long, I finally got a BT I actually wanted from a free multi ticket! VI is my favorite FF, so I've collected every VI weapon since launch. Kind of paid for my good luck almost immediately as it took 610 tickets to get one copy of Locke's FR right after getting this BT. Time to see if I still have enough resources to build these two guys up. No idea if Strago is good again, but I've had his armor blue ever since it was possible and Locke was a green in release.
Strago's still Strago. He's really good, but released in a crowded market where he's going to get overlooked by characters like Astos, Enna Kros, and the upcoming Deuce. He also needs some babysitting to reach his full potential since his EX is the only button you ever want him to be hitting, even over his Echo. I've been on team Blue Strago for ages, but I don't feel like going in on him this time.
His AoE damage is high. With his BT aura instead of duplicating his skills he triples his skills. So that's 9 AoE HP dumps from his S1/S2 and 12 AoE HP dumps from his EX and LD. Against 3 enemies he does the most damage in the game (especially if you're running Enna Call or have the EX recharge Crystal passive and get lucky EX resets), and his damage is solid against 2 enemies. But for the most part he just does damage and his BT aura isn't all that great so you wouldn't use him in the party unless he was going to be your primary damage dealer.
Thanks and yeah, that triple cast is lookin' sweet but managing to fit things nicely into his 6 turns of BT could be a bit of a headache.
How many months has it been since we got a 3 enemy fight? I legit can't remember the last one. I have the WoFF twins green'd as well, I really wanna unleash them and Strago on a three enemy fight for banana damage.
Man, I regret missing Beatrix's BT, but not enough to go back and token it now.
Same. Hers and Dorgann's are the only ones I wanted out of the ones I had to skip. Another sacrifice of the global shuffle.
Speaking of global, we have a weird special stream tomorrow where surprises will be revealed, including why the stream isn't at the usual time of the last Monday of the month. Place your bets for what will be revealed!
Prior to the speed up, I used to get the FR from the free pulls nearly 100% of the time. This Locke FR is the first time this has happened to me in quite some time. It might even be the only time it has happened since the schedule speed up
I was thinking about this too, and I think the Shantotto IW is the last time we had a fight with three targets. It's at the point where I check out whenever I hear someone's good against three enemies due to how rare those fights are. Even Strago's BT debut only has two enemies.
>Place your bets for what will be revealed!
I think it's just gonna be FE50 and Selh'teus. Nothing special. My only question is what they're going to do with Cater, FuSoYa, and Deuce. Those banners came before Selh'teus, and thus before FE50. These characters do all have FE50 now in JP, so I wonder whether GL is going to get these particular FE50s early, or how they're going to set up the Selh'teus banner. It would be weird to me if they did the Cater, FuSoYa, and Deuce banners first, then Selh'teus onward with FE50, considering the stream schedule. Like, if that's how they're gonna divvy it up, they could have just done Cater, FuSoYa, and Deuce during last stream and began October with Selh'teus, so due to the setup I'm inclined to believe we're getting Cater, FuSoYa, and Deuce with early FE50, but otherwise no surprises other than either a Crevasse or Dare to Defy event
There is also the first memorial quest to consider, but that might be a November thing
Josh outright stated that the schedule shakeups are going to get even more extreme from here on out, so giving those three early FE50 doesn't seem to be that big a deal given the possibility of having FR/BTs moved all over the place.
https://dissidiacompendium.com/events/2530
With Irvine comes the first Memorial Quest. I think it's kinda like the replacement for Dimension's End and/or Six-Warrior quests. The first one is Griever. It has like 750mil combined HP and is a single target fight that you can use 2 parties to beat. Almost like a boss rush stage but it's just one boss
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Six-Warrior quests
These were the only fun part of Shinryu. I assume there are no more windfalls of providence cores.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Oh shit, I completely forgot about the Boss Rushes. Those were great. Wonder why they stopped doing them?
8 months ago
Anonymous
>and/or Six-Warrior quests.
Please no. Like the other Anon said, that was one of the few fun game modes plus I really depend on those 100 providence cores they each give.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Oct 11th (Six-Warrior Quest Area 8)
2 Free multi
Cater FRBT FE50
Edgar FRBT FE50
(Galuf, Lyse, Edward, Zell, also FE50)
>Oct 16th (Mystery Intersecting Wills) Kadaj
2 free multis
-Mystery homies- for calendar reference >Oct 20th (Mystery Spiritus) Alexander with Deuce
2 free multie
-Mystery homies-
2 more free multis next stream on some thing he can't talk about yet
DONT GET YOUR HOPES UP, JUST AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF AN ANNOUNCEMENT
something cool will be announced on the official Twitter on Sept 28th @ 2 UTC I think he said this is like 7pm on Sept 27th Pacific time? So normal content drop time for the announcement
Something that Josh is excited for, it's a good thing! That's all he's allowed to say
His AoE damage is high. With his BT aura instead of duplicating his skills he triples his skills. So that's 9 AoE HP dumps from his S1/S2 and 12 AoE HP dumps from his EX and LD. Against 3 enemies he does the most damage in the game (especially if you're running Enna Call or have the EX recharge Crystal passive and get lucky EX resets), and his damage is solid against 2 enemies. But for the most part he just does damage and his BT aura isn't all that great so you wouldn't use him in the party unless he was going to be your primary damage dealer.
Prior to the speed up, I used to get the FR from the free pulls nearly 100% of the time. This Locke FR is the first time this has happened to me in quite some time. It might even be the only time it has happened since the schedule speed up
This is a fun unga bunga team. Probably not optimized but it was a blast obliterating the latest boss. Time to go do my weekly crystal quest >field of fangs >again >4 out of the last 5 have just been alternating the two 525 million hp bosses
It's a good thing yellow specializes in ST damage, but giving bosses a 1.5x hp multiplier was such a dumb idea.
>PC release >server merge >Sonic collab >Koge for DFFOO (his cat) >Rikku >FF16!?! / Clive >EoS??? >Delita >Persona >Zenos >Ifalna >DFFOO Record Keeper >leaving twitter because Elon Musk >DFFOO 2
Those were things in the chat at the time that he said no one has guessed it
Sweet, thanks. I guess it'll be Red XIII.
Good guess. That is indeed something that no one on stream guessed
I honestly doubt it will be anything major, dunno what it could be, but I don't have much reason to expect a significant surprise over it.
Also, aside note, but I honestly wonder why they keep doing the "mystery" IW/Spiritus thing, literally every single time players have guessed it correctly and planned accordingly.
After looking at what they're saying on plebbit, there is apparently a DQ game coming out that same day, so it's probably a return of the co-op stickers or something
>Minwu Echo and FE50 >Holy Anchor trap is 2 HP attacks (up from 1) >Sublime Soul overhead trap looks like 6 HP attacks (up from 3)
Huge. Not only is he another Aerith, but his traps do literally double the HP attacks now. Leon looking pretty nice too
who is he and what does he do?
>who is he
A "literal who"
>what does he do?
Where Cor is a more defense/support/counter type unit, Weiss is purely offense-focused, with added true debuff immunity via his BT effect. His sphere is really good too, wtf
One thing that's easy to overlook is that while a few characters have "true damage," it's usually based on your Max BRV or other factors that limit their usefulness. With Weiss' BT effect, the party deals true damage equal to 10% of the HP damage they deal, meaning it scales in Force Time and dramatically increases your damage over time. So having Weiss around gives you even more damage than just his already great pre-emptive attacks.
What's the difference between a normal debuff immunity versus TRUE debuff immunity?
I'm on my way pity'ing his BT. I don't know if he's like Cor, who doesn't really need his BT.
Regular Debuff Inmunity is actually Debuff Evasion, hence why Guaranteed Debuffs will ignore it, meanwhile Weiss' BT gives actual Debuff Inmunitt, so no debuff will land on the party as long as his BT is active, not even guaranteed ones.
That aside, his BT effect is really useful, since the True Damage it gives actually scales with FT as it's based on HP Damage dealt instead of MBrv or HP Damage Limit like every other True Damage, so the more HP Damage you can deal, the stronger the True Damage will be, as long as you hit your cap tho.
>I don't know if he's like Cor, who doesn't really need his BT.
In my opinion he is very much like Cor (or Dorgann, and others) in that he doesn't need his BT. True Debuff Immunity is, as far as I'm aware, an effect that is completely unique to Weiss, but at the same time you can usually just bring a Hope call to fill up your buff slots, which also prevents any and all debuffs from landing. Add in U1 or other calls for extra flavor. A unique effect, but not one that is necessary if you can already play the game. I don't think that it prevents dispelling of your buffs, which is something that I would actually value, and it doesn't prevent enemy healing, which is another thing that I would actually value
The other effect of his BT, the True damage, is also unnecessary. First, it only even triggers if you're capping damage, which you should be doing, but it is not something that you are guaranteed to be doing. Second, if you are capping damage already, then you're probably already winning the fight too. It's a "win more" condition, in my opinion. That said, there might be like some single target fight(s) in the future that has a frick ton of HP where that added True HP damage might actually be useful, like maybe the future Memorial battles, but those allow you to use 2 parties anyway, and I can only imagine Weiss being a make or break for clearing those with a single party, which is not necessary to do
His BT isn't all that integral to his kit. His EX buff is basically where his role begins and ends, with everything else in his kit just serving to power it up. That said, like
mentioned, his BT aura gives your party more damage than one would expect.
It's mostly just for convenience, though. One annoying thing about Weiss is that his buffs at Quest Start have a short duration, and if you use his AA or something before his EX is charged for the first time, that all-important EX buff is going to fall off for a turn or two before he can get it back up. So if you aren't gearing up for a big BT phase to nuke the bosses in, a common strategy is to Burst early with Weiss just so that he can run through all his skills and make sure his buffs are up before starting Force Time.
The Debuff Immunity really is a non-factor. It's rare that fights have debuffs that nasty, and we've had Lenna, Hope, and Rydia Calls to deal with the few that do for ages. I'm not even sure why he has it- it must be a reference to DoC I don't know about since I never played it.
Sephiroth with true spikey anime big hair.
He stabs stuff, alot.
He also shoots.
>Have you considered selling BTs you won't use to token one you want?
I got bitten in the ass really early on with a similar mindset. Back in the COSMOS era, I sold Dark Knight Cecil's EX because Paladin Cecil had just come out. Since you can't use both at the same time, I figured I'd never use Decil anyway. And thinking that I was really clever, I decided that, "The next time I want to use him, we'll probably be on a new weapon tier anyway." Then of course, they introduced EX+ weapons, and when Decil got an upgrade I had to pull for his EX yet again. Now I never sell character weapons unless we're specifically told it's okay to do so, like with LDs.
Also, BTs just don't have enough of a payout to make selling them worth it unless they're dupes anyway. I'm not going to sell 10 to get one back.
And the streak continues. Yet again had to pity on this banner, and my resources are gone. Was prepared for it, but it would be really nice if I could get the FR and BT without having to pity one of them on a SINGLE banner. It was the BT this time.
And the streak is broken. They may not be weapons I particularly wanted, but I genuinely can't remember the last time I got all the weapons I was missing on free pulls, so I'm happy either way.
200 G tokens to get the FR. Would have liked the BT and I still might go for it because I haven't redeemed, but I'm playing the long game, my gems are a bit fricked, and at the end of the day I already have Cor and do not plan on doing blue crystals any time soon
Only had to reach 200 points and redeemed his EX, got everything else at least, BT included. Downside is that im flat broke.
Oh hey, I didn't realize Jouji Nakata voiced Weiss.
Got two BT's trying to get an FR, eventually had to pity it. Reserves are still looking strong at around 300k, if Golbez really is soon I'll be ready for him.
Man, filling out a new character is always such a chore. I hate it every time
Don't forget your Bloom Token, bro.
That new Enhance screen is really handy for not forgetting stuff like that, but even with the massive QoL it provides it still takes a while
I really should give it a try when Jihl releases (assuming I get anything for her since I'm just gonna do my free pulls and a few tickets). I'm too used to doing things the old way but the Enhance tab looks like it's a lot more convenient than going between several different menus to buy each armor piece individually.
It makes it a lot, lot easier. I still have complaints about the upgrade process as a whole, but as far as the Enhancement screen goes, I do consider it a massive QoL. My only gripe with it is that the Enchancement/Summon boards come before the Weapons in the list, so when these new characters happen, I always enter into the character boards ready to give them their LD and FR boards, only to realize that I still need to max out the weapons in order to unlock the boards. I do this literally every single time, because I just mosey down the list when I'm filling it out
The summon part is still a pain. I don't know why they don't let you just pick the 3 bonuses at the same time instead of having to do it one at a time. Just touch one and if you have 1500 points available, then you can choose all 3 from one window.
God I hate having to go thru at least 4 loading screens just to switch to the next summon boss fight. Just put some damn face buttons on the bottom of the map that lets me switch to whatever summon I want to fight without having to back out over and over.
Better yet, just put all the divine summons on one single map that branches out to each one, so I can just select whoever I want to fight with zero screen transitions/loadings
By the way, I don't remember ever seeing anyone share IDs in these threads.
I'm 461148812. Even if you don't want to post your number, I'll keep an eye on my follower list and follow back.
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waiting patiently for Rydia's BT
Goddamn I am moronic. I was in a big hurry pulling for Weiss and ended up pitying his BT, even though I had 50 tokens I was planning to use to buy his BT with and I'd gotten the entire rest of his kit off the free tickets. And then I MLB'd his LD but sold it before I max leveled it. So then I had to spend 550 tickets to get another copy of his LD and ended up pulling a dupe of the BT I had just pitied 10 minutes earlier. Fricking hell I hate myself so much. I don't even like Weiss all that much.
Dude what kind of dire emergency were you rushing for? Its a game and the banner just came out, its not fricking going anywhere. I cant even feel bad for you.
Can we please get more ruin ingots? Im drowning in every other ingot and book (BT included). Or am i just supposed to waste resources on dupe EX's to get more ruin ingots of of them?
I've got the same issue. Right now I have 14 BT books but only 3 ingots. I find myself constantly thinking, "I don't even want this character's BT but I hope I get it anyway just so I can use one of these goddamn books," which I think is the point. Back when EX+ materials first came out, the general strategy was to use books on characters you didn't care about so that you would have ingots to use on your favorites, but with BTs being so much more rare than any other weapon tier has ever been, it doesn't even out. Other than Braska, I haven't pulled a single BT that I didn't intend to green ever since the schedule change.
I'm also drowning in BT books/ingots, but I still can't max out every EX. I booked every EX in the game, but I still need like 30 more ingots before I can max them all. It doesn't matter, but I'd really like to get my inventory all nice and tidy and I can't
OH FRICK IT'S TRANSCENDENCE 13 AGAIN.
Nice, now I finally get to use my green Decil for a second time
Oh it's the "you should have at least below 50% HP or else you die" fight. I really loathe that DET.
>Shelk: Il buy you guys time to escape
>jumps in and dies immediately
I would've choked on my drink if i had waited longer to take it.
I chose violence.
I've just solo'd every stage so far with Auron. I might be able to solo 14 with Auron, but definitely not 15, so I will just barely not be able to get a full solo Auron clear of the event
Faris has a cool-looking BT... And a silly-looking Dancer outfit.
Should've been Mystic Knight.
>BT lasts 8 turns
>triggers 12 HP attack trap (!!) with 50% splash after enemy turn
>this is *in addition* to her normal trap, which is now 6 HP attacks with 50% splash
>that is 18 HP attacks with 50% splash after enemy turns
God fricking damn. The condition to trigger the + version is that the enemy whose turn it was needs to have total debuff turns remaining of >50, but Faris BT makes it so that her debuffs do not decrease, so Faris alone will fulfill 40 of those necessary 50 debuff counts (8*5). If you give her 2 debuff E spheres (6T max), then she can completely fulfill her BT condition on her own, for 18 mother fricking HP attacks with 50% splash any time an enemy takes a turn
I was never going to do Blue crystal unless Faris or Edge got updates, so I'm pleased to see that Faris has a mother fricking 18 HP attack off turn trap with 50% splash, but what in the frick even is this game anymore. Rubicante has 6 aoe split HP attacks, btw, and that guy is still insane. And Gladio BTFR is next week, and his counter apparently scales to +9 or something
I wonder how it counts Reno's Pyramid debuff towards the duration count.
That's an interesting question, but I'd imagine it would count as zero, though they could have spaghetti coded it to be infinity
Wow. I'll be going all in then. I love trap/counter-attack style gameplay.
>syldra as free willy
I laughed
Wow, this has got to be one of the easiest kits I obtained. Got Weiss' BT on the purple ticket and the rest with 100 normal ones.
Auron update. I will absolutely be able to solo every stage of the event with Auron except DET 15. Kino
Got 50 tokens again. Who should I pick?
Rem. She's still really good in JP to this day.
Auron, Rem, Cor but he's still good without, or possibly Noel depending on if you like break or not
Looks like blue might have a solo character now
Just wait until Edge gets an update. Bluechads stay winning.
I'm stuck in BT phase. The adds get one-shot and then the boss instantly summon them back and then the follow-up kills them again.
This game is wild sometimes
Just tone down your characters. Isn't this fight came out a year ago? Characters nowadays can quickly drop that boss' HP around 70%, without using FR.
you accidentally triggered the Dorgann loop, it happens, if you're out of BT Phase this can just keep going until it dies, but in BT it can trigger exactly what you've just witnessed, and make the fight infinite, was a prime method that people abused when this fight was current
>was a prime method that people abused when this fight was current
Was a gimmick method that people who hadn't already cleared the fight used to more easily clear it when Dorgann was released 3 months later
Now I'm the one got stuck in Dorgann's infinite loop. I already forgot how I cleared those black dragons. My DET says I cleared it with Zack/Ramza/Laguna.
Is this the one with depleting the Lufenia orb to zero?
Tier 8's actually a bit tricky now that BRV regen is so common that you don't realize it. I just tried letting Auron deal with it, but once Bio Breath was down he just kept filling up to max BRV and there wasn't anything I could do about it. It's like dealing with a fight that punishes you for having a buff that gives more than a 40% ATK increase. Suddenly you have to go over all your characters to figure out what all the buffs you stopped paying attention to do. Just a weird little consequence of how the game's changed over time.
>I just tried letting Auron deal with it, but once Bio Breath was down he just kept filling up to max BRV and there wasn't anything I could do about it
Bro, your Gladio (never take damage) call?
I think Tier 9 is gonna be the only one that you have to think about as far as the Lufenias go. If you blow them up too quickly the orb is going to pop, unless you're in a Summon/BT phase, which you can probably easily do, but still, that fight has so many mechanics that even doing too much damage too quickly will kill you
I don't know if it was intentional, but I really appreciate the fact that they didn't rerun Tier 9 until after Vincent gets his update. I still have him fully invested from the last time, so even if I don't end up getting his FR those fricking owls are going to wish they were never born.
>I really appreciate the fact that they didn't rerun Tier 9 until after Vincent gets his update
That's a good catch, I hadn't even noticed
Man, I can't keep up with all these SE gachas. Only one I more or less consistantly play is NieR ReINcarnation, and even then I side-step it so often I've missed tons of stuff.
Other than Nier, I've tried Opera Omnia and just recently War of the Visions. I never bothered to play pvp or join guilds and whatnot and the gacha system of having a frickton of items for everything plus convoluted everything for pulls, tokens and everything is filtering me hard.
I should just stick to one, I suppose, or only focus on the story mode for those that really interest me but they just announced an FFVIII colab for WOTV with Seifer as a boss and I don't really to miss that.
>Man, I can't keep up with all these SE gachas
I played WotV for almost an entire year, I played Nier Re[in]carnation for a few months, and OO is the only one that I kept playing. WotV and Nier take way too long to play for too little reward. In WotV, it takes the entire year just to get a cohesive team functioning at a basic level, and you are always grinding something or other, though they have background grind now so it's not as bad as it used to be. Nier isn't that bad, but the daily/weekly grinding still takes as long as WotV does, and Nier doesn't have background grind. Then there's Ever Crisis, but it's just Nier with Final Fantasy instead of brown girls
I liked Nier's story and characters, but Opera Omnia is the only one of these that I have ever actually had fun with. I wish all gacha games would follow OO's way of doing things. There are only a couple grinds here, and once you finish them, they're done forever. The one (1) daily takes literally 10 seconds to complete. Even co-op you usually don't need to grind anymore, since if you 3x book a boosted Shinryu with 5 skip tickets, that's enough to buy out the whole shop. So it ends up being that the only thing you ever do in OO are the actually fun parts of the game, which is beating the fights
Funny thing, the JP side of Opera Omnia reduced the number of events per month saying that "people complained that they didn't have time to play other mobile games with the current amount of new content." The Global side apparently said that's moronic and now we're speeding up to catch up to JP faster and getting more GL Exclusive events like Dare to Defy.
Took almost all day, but i beat all the DET levels, finale included with Setzer. Getting the new nameplate actually feels good, and a relief. There were alot of good units I ended up not using, from Rubi to Cor, Aerith, Weiss, Auron, my wife Aranea, the twins, a handful of main characters like Cloud, and even Quina.
Congrats. I ended up with a lot of really good characters free too. We only got a new tier every two or three months or so, so a lot of times a stage just wouldn't be good for a certain character, and then by the time the next tier came out they were outclassed by newer characters who countered the mechanics better. I'm looking at my list and Prishe was a pretty tragic case of this. She was absolutely fantastic... for like a month since Shinryu dropped right after her BT debut.
I'm really surprised that I never ended up using Tifa, Garnet, or Machina. All three of them were very good for a very long time but I guess I didn't want to "waste" them and either never used them or quickly re-cleared the tier to free them up again.
Anyone going all out on Reno (or Vincent)?
Reno's another one for me, like Aranea, where I already have him fully built, and I would like his BT a lot, but I don't really want to pull for or token the BT. For me, as much as I would like his BT, he's Dagger UW, and red gets Kelger in a bit, plus I already have Rubicante, Auron, and Beatrix (and Minwu), so I can't justify the pull or the token, but I'd probably green him if I get it
I'm most interested in using his BT phase to spam his HP attack, then ending with like 1 or 2 turns left on Force Time and coming out of it with a heavily delayed party due to spamming his HP attack during Burst so that the enemy kills themselves even harder than usual
Weiss took all of my shit and now I'm broke.
I'll be putting in some tickets for Vincent's FR since I already have him fully invested. Won't be crying myself to sleep if I don't get him.
I was all aboard the Reno Train when he first got his FR since his was the first to really reward an off-turn playstyle, but once more came out like Celes and Minwu I stopped using him entirely and I can't see anything different happening here. He's not really an off-turn attacker himself, he's like the Keiss of off-turn comps in that he enables your real counter-tanks and such. But Rubicante, Auron, and eventually Kelger don't need the help.
I will be focusing on getting Vincen'ts FR since I got his BT from the first 50+1 tickets we got months ago, and I would like to use him a bit more, especially since the fighting chickens will be back soon.
Not really interested in Reno's BT but if I get it while chasing Vincent's FR it will be a nice bonus.
>300 G Tokens
>literally zero FRs, no BTs, no nothing
Feels bad to pity fricking Vincent's FR, a thing I didn't even want other than for collection purposes. I have got to stop doing this shit and just let it go. I don't use them anyway
Spent my 5 free tickets and got nothing. Oh well.
>got Vincents BT off of the multitickets
>suddenly feel get that bad urge of pulling for his FR since i got the damn thing
>swap to Reno's banner
>90 tickets and got it along with some dupes of Reno's FR
Thank god.
So how do i kill this thing? Im not understanding it from reading thru the description, did i bug it with too much damage? It did its regeneration twice.
And now my Dorgann is on an infinite break counter loop. Great
https://dissidiacompendium.com/bestiary/enemies/3500/250/
Phase 1: no orb, just kill it
Phase 2: kill before enemy takes 5 turns
Phase 3: can't kill until enemy takes 10 turns
Thanks. This boss had some weird stuff happening tho. It was getting its brave back in the middle of Dorg's followup every time, which caused an infinite. Then it was stealing whatever HP Auron was healing from his counter and even the call i had. That took way longer than it needed.
Yeah, the blue aura can be nasty. It's possible, with enough delay, to make it so that he never gains this aura until he's already "dead"
You need to let it take 10 turns after the second orb activates. After 10 turns the orb goes away and you can kill it.
left the game with about 120k gems I think and some tickets. with the upcoming banners when would be a good time to try and come back. last thing I pulled was Rinoa’s BT
I mean, theres never really a "best" time to pull because theres only ever 2-3 good units running on banners, and any other really good unit had just passed and will come back in X amount of months. The global schedule is also being mix matched around, so even predicting whose going to come back is up in the air.
You missed Astos, who is basically THAT unit that can hit the damage cap of the game with ease. Right now, you can get Weiss, whose like Cor with a BT effect that can get wonky with the FR bonus, theres Auron who can tank and kill on his own, Cloud/Squall/Light i think are still up. Its really just personal preference when it comes to pulling really.
cool, I’ll get ready for Kelgar and Auron since I already fully invested in him. thnx
I should mention, but there's a new type of enhancement that's been added since you've been gone. You can now power up the colored crystals to give every character of that color stat buffs and new passives. But like Ultima Weapons it's a long, long term investment. Once a week you can run a Crystal Quest which is an old Shinryu, and if you have a team of characters that are all one color, you'll get points towards that crystal. You can set your difficulty and how high you set it determines how many points you're capped out on for the week- at a minimum of 400 and a max of 700. Current content doesn't take it into account, but it's easy to miss out on if you don't already know about it.
Is there a higher difficulty than Shinryu now? to be precise I dipped out right before an upcoming 45 minute Cloud of Darkness fight. I hope that wasn’t a continuing trend
Shinryu is still the highest difficulty, but they've been steadily increasing in difficulty over time despite them calling it the same thing. But fights do tend to be a lot faster now that we have Force Echoes. They let characters use their Force Ability while Force Time is already active. Echoes don't decrease the number of turns in Force Time and they tend to make the multiplier shoot up dramatically. That plus the fact that a 75% multiplier increase every turn is considered "the standard," means that getting to a 999% multiplier is pretty much guaranteed. Most fights don't last more than eight minutes these days.
are you talking about FRs or is this a whole new another weapon? or upgraded FRs
Same thing as LD Boards basically. When a character has their FR weapon maxed out, they get a new Enhancement Board, and finishing that will power up the FR Ability and let you use Echoes. It made Enhancement Points even more of a pain to save up if you're F2P and the game is really stingy when it comes to upgrading old FRs (Desch and Krile are still completely worthless even in JP since they still don't have FR boards), but it sped things up and balanced out team comps so that off-turn damage wasn't so absurdly better than on-turn damage.
Ok got ya, I still had some weapons to sell and points banked so hopefully I’m able to catch up sooner than later
Weiss is an absurdly good on-turn damage dealer and he's up now. He jumps in front of allies and gets in some cheeky damage every time they select a move. He's similar to Cor, but Cor has now retroactively been made "the defense-focused one" in comparison. Kelger should be coming next month or early October, and he's one of those busted dodge tanks that can solo damn near everything.
And yeah. Weiss and Kelger. That's the kind of literal who we're typically getting now.
>Reno BT came in the free tickets
Well if it was anyone, I'm glad it was Reno since he feels like a character I would use more than Vincent
Flower girls really look at dudes like this and think to themselves, "Yeah, I can #FixKadaj."
>"killed" the boss on turn 25 or something
>thought I could just pass turn and win
>it doesn't become the bosses turn until 80+
>turn count is 55
What the frick was up with that chapter? It was really good. And frick, somehow they even made me like Kadaj.
The writing's been better than usual for a while now. Act 3 was just so dull and long-winded that it made me forget that the story and character interactions were the main reason I stuck with this game when I started playing in the first place.
Act 4's just been pretty consistently good since it started, yeah, been giving a lot of the cast room to interact with each other, make connections they couldn't originally, I'm actually sort of excited to see what they end up doing next and who they'll end up bringing with them as of next time, the next major story chapter isn't for a while and introduces Sehl'theus so the inner XI fanboy in me is screaming to see how that goes
>Sehl'theus
Yeah, he's an instant pity for me
So Jihl is next right? What the frick even is her kit as I've not seen anyone talk about it?
She does a lot of damage, has a strong follow up attack (3 hp attacks with 180% max brave overflow) and her BT triggers it twice. She's a got solid FR (+40% whenever someone uses an on turn melee attack and 40% whenever someone does group HP damage) so that's probably 80% every turn. Overall though she wasn't all that great on release and will be even more underwhelming in GL since they messed with the timeline and moved up stronger characters like Lightning, Aranea and Keiss to before her.
>She does a lot of damage
Isn't it more that she just does a medium amount of damage for the current power creep? Like, Vincent has roughly the same amount of HP attacks on his kit (~9 vs ~10) and he wasn't shilled despite having a +50% HP damage cap up on his easily meetable FR condition and another personal +50% HP damage cap up on his BT. Jihl is a sword though, so that's always a plus especially when compared to gun. Then for white crystal there's also Lenna coming next month (probably) and I think she does about the same damage Jihl does too, but has a Bow UW which might be worse that Gun depending on your roster. I think Jihl's thing is that she also has a gauge charge, but it's either slightly worse or slightly better because she does a follow up attack on it (like Rem) in exchange for less charging?
I think "10 HP attacks" is the new bare minimum that even supports are doing on their buttons nowadays (see: Rosa)
it's only really counter tanks that do less than that because they do their damage off turn (see: Rubicante, Beatrix, Auron, Cater)
I think Kelger might do around 10 on turn
>Then for white crystal there's also Lenna coming next month (probably) and I think she does about the same damage Jihl does too, but has a Bow UW which might be worse that Gun depending on your roster.
There's also the fact that on top of that, Lenna provides way more party utility to boot. Even if Bow UW isn't exactly glamourous I'd still take her over Jihl for what she provides. She can charge but it's slow, so it's good if you need to charge but don't mind if they use FR, which is okay I guess? If you're charging at all it's weird that you're okay with not winning the race in my opinion. Would rather just forgo the charger at all if you don't care about that.
Those are fair statements. Keep in mind though that her follow up damage is deceptively high since it has an innate 180% max brave overflow and her BT aura lets her hit twice with it. You can also use that in someone else's FR time that has a max hp damage cap increase to push it even further. So even if the number of hp dumps she gets isn't all that impressive compared to other characters, the amount of hp damage she can put out per turn is higher than most characters. And on top of putting out solid damage numbers, she can also serve as an FR charger, which is pretty neat since typically characters who can charge the FR have poor personal damage.
That said, with the timeline shakeup we've got several characters who can outdamage her early and there some other good white crystal characters. Even without the time traveling I don't think she was a must pull, but she was pretty solid at her JP release. Currently in GL though I feel like she's a pretty easy skip.
Jihl's EX has 14 HP attacks and Vincent's damage spread is different. All of Jihl's damage is Split, including the EX while Vincent has
>4 single HP attacks with 2x splash
>EX that might as well be full 4x group HP damage
>LD that hits 5 full HP attacks on group
>Plus 4x single target follow up
Vincent's real niche imo, is debuffing the enemies' stats HARD. Which might have diminishing returns in this era when it comes to damage contribution, but fricking over the enemies' INT BRV might still be a viable strategy (though you might as well use Iris BT for that)
Jihl can
>Paralyze
>Heal the party
>Do a "mini gauge charge"
>And "cheat" the FR gauge by gaining an additional percentage increase with her BT effect after every EX
Jihl is a real all rounder, and with support from characters like Queen BT, she can hit deceptively hard like other people mentioned here and get a big FR bonus from it
You're also forgetting that Vincent's FR has +50% HP damage cap and he has an additional +50% HP damage cap for himself on his BT, and Jihl has neither one of these things. I was responding directly to "she does a lot of damage". She does ~10 HP attacks vs Vincent's ~9 HP attacks that have an additional +100% HP damage cap up on them. I wasn't even saying that Vincent is a better damage dealer than Jihl, I'm just saying that if Vincent wasn't hyped up as a damage dealer, then I don't see why Jihl would be. In my own personal view of the current game state, she does a medium amount of damage with a medium amount of support and thus is a medium character, who of course is still very useable as all current characters are. You probably do want her if you're doing white crystals right now, but if you're short on resources then I think that Lenna is probably overall better and has comparable damage and that Vincent probably has comparable damage as well and that he was not shilled as a damage dealer (rightfully so)
I haven't really seen her in action much, but my first impression of her is that she's an Agrias upgrade. It looks like her biggest issue is the fact that she's a White Crystal. All-rounders with damage and healing utility are nice if you're pumping them up with crystal enhancements, but White already has a monopoly on characters that are really similar. You have the option of sticking with Yuri, Leo, and Braska, or waiting for Lenna, Queen or Deuce instead of pulling for Jihl. Hell, maybe Paladin Cecil will finally get reworked and invalidate all of them. It's a crowded market for units like her.
There's also my girl Arciela, who gets the Aerith FR treatment
White's an unfortunate color for me in that I don't really like any of the white crystal characters except Arciela, Emperor, and Gau, and only one of those has any sort of recent update in JP
I was already going to go for Lenna because I have all the love in the world for V, I've got both Queen and Deuce built but I don't really know what their reworks give them, and I was very tempted to get Yuri's whole kit but I stopped at FR and I can just token the BT later if they're really that good.
Does Queen actually get good with her reworks or is she in the same boat as Jihl? She's already kinda meme-y with her transformation EX butit's a fun kinda meme-y.
Queen's got a lot of nice tools, but her damage is pretty mediocre and the characters she synergies well with are fairly uncommon. She gives party-wide Last Stand and a lot of BRV refund on HP attacks. Her BT effect essentially puts her in permanent Crazy Fricking b***h Mode where she's immortal, does good damage, and has a choice between an instant-turn-rate attack and a normal-speed attack so you have options. The BT also dramatically powers up party members' EX attacks and skills changed from HP or BRV attacks like Machina's Furious Blades or Rosa's Aim.
Her FR is really restrictive. You only get the full benefit for using melee skills changed from HP/BRV attacks. It does give a fantastic 50% increase to both HP damage and BRV cap if you do use one, though. It's a shame that there aren't many characters she works well with because of this and her BT effect. Noel is a fantastic partner for her. Machina's still good but he's showing his age and doesn't have an Echo. Reno can hit her conditions but Queen isn't meant for off-turn comps. Same thing goes for Auron. Getting the most out of her is tricky.
That's not as bad as I was expecting, at least. Some of the stuff she provides seems pretty good, keeping her in EX mode for the BT sounds pretty nice and she's got some decent synergy, shame about those conditions though. I'll admit, I was tempted to go for her because she's one of the few Type-0 characters I actually kinda like (alongside Sice and King) so she's a "pull for her BT/FR if I have excess resources" kind of character for me.
>Machina's still good but he's showing his age and doesn't have an Echo.
Was fricking crestfallen when I saw he got FE50 without getting a rework. Like come the frick on, give him extra HP dumps and Echo! Absolutely ridiculous. Like, yeah, I can still use him and even whipped him out for DE13, but he could be so much better.
I can't really complain about Machina falling off because he was the MVP of Shinryu for literally the entirety of the pre-Echo era, but it's always such a slap in the face whenever a character comes back on a new banner and they STILL don't have an Echo. Machina's going to rerun with fricking KELGER. Come on, giving him an Echo there wouldn't have hurt the game balance when you have Effortless Solo Clears: The Character to compare him to.
I still use Machina a ton since he's still a king of off-turn damage. Potentially two AoE counters every time an enemy attacks, and potentially a third counter if they use an All attack, plus his HP attack hits hard and throws him back in the turn order so enemies get more attacks. And his FR is still incredibly strong for any melee team, especially an off-turn one. With Machina, Cor and Auron, using Machina's FR and then Echoing with the other two,I've been rolling through almost every fight. Obviously it would be nice if Machina got a rework and an Echo, but honestly I don't feel like he even needs it all that bad. Of the pre-Echo characters he's held up the best by far.
Oh he definitely still puts in work. It's just a bit tragic to see his big dick Furious Blades Burst do less damage than Rosa, especially when the devs have actively avoided getting him back up to speed when given the chance.
>Of the pre-Echo characters he's held up the best by far.
My vote for this goes to Minwu, Sice, or Celes
Minwu's FR is still one of the best ones driving FRs for off turn damage. Most recently, in current content, I used Sice to solo Lightning's IW in the D4D. Celes is one of the few units that can actually benefit from the D4 passive in a meaningful way, and both her and Sice can also benefit from the U6 passive in meaningful ways
Jihl (Lufenia auras, 999% (Aerith friend), no follow up attack helper, 3 targets always present)
569 mil
Vincent (Shinryu auras, 645% (no friend unit), Weiss follow up, there are only 2 targets present for one of the attacks)
557 mil
Currently I cannot find a better damage comparison video, but I think this illustrates my point well enough
I have no idea which anon you are. That video seems to be showing that Vincent + Weiss deals less damage than Jihl so I'm guessing you're the one who was saying that Jihl is better than Vincent?
>so I'm guessing you're the one who was saying that Jihl is better than Vincent?
I'm the one saying that if Vincent wasn't sold as a damage dealer then I don't think Jihl should be sold as a damage dealer either
When Jihl released in JP she was the second strongest damage dealer available after Astos. Like with your video comparison, it shows that Vincent needs Keiss with his pre-emptive and scaling True Damage just to get close to what Jihl can do on her own. Further you can really push Jihl's damage a lot further than what that first video shows by starting with an FR that has a strong damage boost like Setzer's. Also only looking at HP dumps doesn't give you the whole picture. 180% overflow on a 3 hp dump attack puts out as much damage as 5 hp dumps with no overflow. So with Jihl getting two of those 180% overflow 3 hp dump attacks with her BT aura up, she's basically getting the equivalent of 10 extra hp dumps on every attack.
The biggest issue for Jihl is actually maxing out the overflow. She really benefits from the Crystal room passive that gives her an extra brave hit, or having a party member use a Cait Sith Call.
In the Vincent video, he only has 2 turns at 999% whereas Jihl has the entire BT phase at 999%. There is ~28mil damage on the Vincent video that is unaccounted for because one of the arms died, and Shinryu auras are more restrictive than Lufenia auras. If you can find a better and more direct comparison I would love to see it. I'm not buying that Jihl "does a lot of damage" any more than Vincent does a lot of damage
>When Jihl released in JP she was the second strongest damage dealer available after Astos
I thought that was Reks? Seem to remember someone mentioning that was the case in one of the past threads.
>I thought that was Reks?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DESSM4SB3mJkBrNC2wnUeAOX5hj16Ki4/edit#gid=2147024184
Reks (and Balthier) were the 2nd most damaging BT phase damage dealers assuming the most normal fight conditions (with a +50% hp cap main FR), but this does not include more recent additions like Jihl (or Reno), and I'm not enough of a spreadsheet autist to actually learn how this works to fill her in myself. Reks is getting ~12 split HP aoe attacks every single turn, and Jihl is getting ~10 split HP aoe attacks every single turn unless you can refill her EX every turn (Reno is 11 full HP attacks every turn, btw, and he wasn't shilled on his damage). I know there are more variables than just the number of HP attacks, but unless sinewave ever updates this sheet, the world may never know. All I know is that in my purely intuitive and based on no actual facts opinion, she seems to be being oversold on her damage. Someone described her in this thread as an all rounder, and that's what I would describe her as too, but someone also said "she does a lot of damage" and I will believe that when I see it
This just makes me want to test a Reno BT phase with support to see if I can get some really big numbers out of it, I haven't tried it yet but I'm certainly curious now
If you do, you will probably want either Quina or Ursula BT to help him out since, like Rinoa, his changed HP attack only has one BRV attack on it
She's such a literal who that they don't have any artwork for her and had to settle on a blurry in-game screenshot. Even Dorgann had some cool fanart.
I'll throw some tickets at her, but since there's no way I'm greening her there's not much point in going hard. I just have a bias for new characters for collection's sake.
Wow, I thought her party support was higher, but those numbers don't lie. Just underwhelming as frick.
The game has put me into a situation where I am no longer confident in the longevity of my resources. I keep needing to pity FRs that I know I will never use and that I only even wanted for collection purposes anyway. If I don't get her FR and/or LD on the free multis, I'll probably skip her altogether. I need to do something to break the habit of pulling for every single FR that comes out and this seems like a good opportunity. I don't like White anyway. It's definitely going to be my last crystal color unless someone crazy ends up being White. I'll just pick up Arciela and then hope that Emperor or Gau get a rework before EoS
Did it with Quina,Glad, and Faris. Gladiolus was MVP king of shielding units. Just need his FR no BT needed.
>"fifth best DPS unit in the game"
>"oh, but she's also a charger though"
>"she has great party support!"
I feel like I'm being gaslit on how good this character actually is and I don't know why people are even bothering for a character like this.
Here's a simple guide: Will you pull for Queen BT/Have Rem BT?
Then consider Jihl BT
If you have neither, then pass.
Shit I was actually thinking about getting Queen BT down the line, maybe I really do need to go for this, but by the time it rolls around I could token Queen's so that could work
>her BT came in the free tickets
okay fine I'll fricking build her, sheesh
I got her FR with the free tickets. But I'm sitting on 45 BT tokens right now and will need to buy a BT since there's 10 on the shop. No clue who's to get. Quistis? Paine? Jihl?
If you're on the fence about Paine she's a character I'd recommend, gives her a lot of utility. You'd be surprised how many fights HP Silence shuts down entirely and she's also got her turn hopping for others. I don't think she's particularly necessary but I'd probably use her BT the most out of those three.
>I'm sitting on 45 BT tokens right now and will need to buy a BT since there's 10 on the shop
That's not how BT tokens work. If you are maxed out, you can still buy them. They go to your mailbox. If that's how you do it, that whenever you have 50 tokens you immediately spend them that sounds like a fun way to play the game, but you do not "need" to buy a BT in order to get the co-op BT tokens
Oh. I thought if you were already maxed it wouldn't let you buy anymore, just like everything else in the shop. Thanks! Gonna hold off for Enna then.
Since I'm focusing on Blue crystals my opinion's a bit skewed since she gets a huge power boost, but Paine's been one of my most consistently useful characters since she got her BT. Her FR conditions are really easy to hit. She can keep off debuffs and enemy buffs. Put her on the left and she has a Cait Sith/Sherlotta style BRV gain to the party on hit, and on the right she severely nerfs enemy damage and they take 40% more HP damage. Once those effects are up, they can't be dispelled, either. With her BT active, anytime she or someone to her left hits an enemy they get HP Silenced and it's easy to stack it to the point where they can't do anything for over 30 turns by the time her BT runs out. When she or someone to her right hits an enemy, the whole party gets a stacking buff that gives you an instant turn whenever someone's at three stacks.
In short, at max investment having her in the party means enemies don't get to play the game, and you can ignore most of the mechanics the game can throw at you. Her personal damage is subpar at this point without an Ultima Weapon and crystal boosts, but she still contributes a lot.
too broke and lucklet to pull for Jihl, and I want to take her for the ticket mission. Any Shinryu mechanics to look out for?
It's got a debuff at 50% force along with a self buff, can just bring Aerith to deal with that or any sort of debuff immunity. You can just not let them take turns and you'll probably fine. They have this aura mechanic but if you don't let them take turns they can't really do anything to you.
It self-delays when the aura activates. I actually had Jihl to Daze it so it couldn't act, but it died so quickly that it never had a chance to use it anyway, and I didn't even have any dedicated damage dealers. I don't see any reason why Aerith and Astos can't blow this stage up while babysitting an unbuilt Nabaat.
Just make sure you have a paralyze debuff on them (Jihl does this on her EX) if they get their force attack off, or they'll paralyze you. Other then that, it's easy.
https://www.dissidiacompendium.com/bestiary/enemies/3917/300/infographic
Since everyone so far has mentioned the on-turn angle, I'll mention the off-turn one. Like most Shinryu fights that are not part of the main story, this fight doesn't actually do anything. If you're doing off-turn, you probably want to keep the player debuffs and enemy buffs that are applied at 50% enemy gauge. The only thing to watch out for is that if you let the enemy get a force time, the behemoth needs to be "cannot act"d, but otherwise you probably even want to *not* cancel their force time. The only thing in the entire fight you need to be mindful of is having the behemoth paralyzed if/when it gets force time
>Got Jihl's BT off Free Tickets
Alright nice, just need to roll for her LD & FR now
>Run out of tickets going for her LD but get her FR
Okay I'll guess I'll gem it until I get to pity or her LD
>Get a BT Dupe and STILL have to pity her LD
Why?
Astos goes Boom
Great. I would have felt like an idiot if I recommended that setup and it didn't end up working for some reason.
Man, it's really weird not knowing who any of the next characters are going to be. I caught myself looking at my ticket count and thinking, "Yeah, this should be enough to get me... uh... Golbez? Maybe?"
We're gonna find out tomorrow at least, but yeah it's spooky not knowing cause of the time travel. Could be anything coming, but I think the next month is set in stone. There's no way they'll rush FE50. And if they do, it'll be even worse for the game.
Looking at this, there are still (7? 8?) banners before FE50. If they want to make it nice and easy for GL and do it by the month, they're gonna have to cram (2?) extra banners in September to make it an easy Selh'teus and FE50 start for October. Lenna, Queen, Enna Kros, Cater, Kelger, Deuce, FuSoYa (and Strago?) all with events, Golbez just on a banner. I wonder if they're gonna cram it all in September or if they're gonna awkwardly break out the FE50 in mid-October while they stick to their 6 events per month thing
I really hope they don't break out FE50 early, but I could sadly see them do it. That's the start of new power levels, and if they do so ahead of time and leave some banners in the dust, it's likely by the time they ever get around to them they'll just be underpowered on release. The only things I feel are safe are the spiritus events, as those are probably higher priority than an LC or raid event.
>I really hope they don't break out FE50 early
Why? I've enjoyed early Crystal Rooms quite a bit. I don't think they'll give FE50 to units that do not already have it in JP, so I think that FE50 and Selh'teus don't happen until October, and I think that there are (actually more than) enough banners to fill September so that they can still stay on schedule and release FE50 in October with Selh'teus. Really, to me, it seems like the only unknown is whether they're going to cram 8 banners into September, or if they're going to keep 6 in September, and then introduce FE50 while on the 3rd or so event in October, which in my opinion is super awkward and makes it more likely that they just cram 8 events into September, but I guess it's really impossible to say or attempt to guess
FE50 doesn't really seem that powerful to me though. It's just a personal +20% Max BRV cap up (hp damge cap) and +20% HP damage up for the unit that has the FE50. They rest of the things are Force Gauge related, and even if a unit is only FE30, they still retain part of the gauge. It's definitely "new power levels", but just from reading the abilities, it seems neither like a new weapon tier of power level difference nor as powerful as the c90 difference, and probably not even as powerful as the difference that FR echo makes
(for posterity)
>Aug 31st - Queen
>Sep 5th - Kelger
>(Sep 7th - Golbez)
>Sep 11th - Lenna
>Sep 15th - IW (Enna)
>Sep 20th - Raid Boss (Strago?)
So the things that weren't covered in the stream were:
>6 man - Cater
>Spiritus Alexander - Deuce
>FuSoYa LC
Which is only 3 events. So the Sept 21st stream might be a mini stream covering those 3 events? Or more likely, it will cover those 3 events, and then also the entire month of October, which should "begin" with FE50 and Selh'teus. I wonder how far after Selh'teus October will go or if they're going to continue shuffling the banners around
We also didn't get Crevasse, which was supposed to be Auron's event
I just assumed that our Reprise thing was a jank Crevasse, but I do hope we get actual Crevasse
Can BT+ be sold in JP? Considering realizing dupes for ingots.
not doable on global so i doubt it
Curious about something:
How are your Crystal Rooms coming along? Which color did you choose first? Are you focusing on one color at a time or spliting among several to get the passives you are most interested on first?
I myself started with Green but switched to Black since I was more interested in that color, unlocked three passives on each and could unlock a fourth one for Black but dunno which to get next.
I chose the same colors but I'm giving preference to black; I only switch to green when the quest is giving me trouble. I think I'll go for extra turn at quest start or speed down next.
Upgrading Blue but spending the universal crystals on White. Gonna focus on White until I get the EX charging passive for Enna and Jihl, then I might go back to Blue, idk.
Black 4 passives
Red 2 passives
Green 1 passive
I want go with blue, but I don't have a good blue support, most are fully built DPS. I want to try yellow too, if only my BTless Sherlotta has FR echo, she can help Lightning finish the job.
also focusing on Green and I've been on it ever since, I'm probably gonna stick with it until I fully finish at this rate just because I'm already invested
Went white. Unlock the +2 LD use passive for when Enna comes out. Then I've been working on Black rooms after that.
All-in on blue. After getting three passives I'm happy with, I've been avoiding more and just focusing on stat increases. I'm pleased with the differences it's made. Last year I wouldn't have used Rosa at all, but the absurd boost in stats has made an all-rounder like her way more useful than I expected. And it's let me keep using some more gimmicky characters like Mog and Paine past their expiration dates.
I'm honestly not a big fan of how Crystal Quests work, and I wish more of the passives weren't so situational compared to universally useful buffs like D1 and U1, but in general it's breathed some life into the game and helped give different players different experiences.
In my opinion, D3 and D6 are by far the most impactful Crystal Passives to have, so I'm grabbing those for the relevant colors (D4 and/or A5 where applicable). I'm not sure which color I'm going to max out first though. I think it will depend on what the future JP roster looks like at the time that I am finally done getting D3 and D6 on all of the colors I want it for. It will be Green if Rydia gets a (good) BT in that timeframe, it could be Black if Sice gets a (good) BT in that timeframe, and it could be Red if Minwu gets a (good) rework when he finally gets Echo. I'm not too concerned with the first few Crystal Abilities so I don't mind spreading the colors out
>Early Queen
>Early Kelger
>Golbez during Kelger
>"You think this month is weird? It's gonna get weirder"
I'm scared
Yeah, we're most likely getting energy wing XI boy in October.
Once we get FE50 there'll theoretically be no limits on who they can shuffle around. What's really stopping them from giving us Faris BT for the first event after that? I'm looking forward to seeing how wild it gets.
What's interesting is that they could easily release characters like Gladio BT, Faris BT and especially Ultimecia FR, right now in GL, and the meta wouldn't change much. The top characters in JP have been the same for a year, the powercreep has been kinda stagnant.
>Early Queen to close this month
>Kelger right after alongside Golbez after a little while
>Followed by Lenna
>Mystery IW inmediately after
>Early stream for next month on an odd day
I'm officially worried.
The massive schedule break is a clear sign at this point. At best we're trying to jump around so storywise and with character releases we're on par with JP. At worst, this means EoS by the end of the year for at least us.
Perhaps a merge?
There's still way too much separating us from JP to even think about a merge. We're not gonna close that gap in one month, or two, or maybe even three.
I thought the same about Dokkan, but after 8 years, it's happening.
I dunno much about Dokkan, is it like here where it's mostly PvE? Is there a PvP scene? Because like
said, I could see the value in combining communities in this way, but otherwise I'm not sure what someone gets out of it.
It's 99% pve and the pvp content that's there is just who can grind/score the most. And it's indirect.
JP doesn't even have Penelo's BT/FR yet. In fact, it's weird that they haven't gotten her at this point, it's been a long time.
Not sure how that will be beneficial, when SinoAlice did it it was to streamline the PvP component. Unless the unification of the servers really helps, I don't see the usefulness.
I'm no math wizard, but I think we catch JP at anniversary. I don't know if there will actually be a merge, but I think we do catch JP around Jan/Feb
There are many JP gacha games that have all decided within the last couple months to speed GL up to catch JP. I don't know what happened over there, but seriously it's like every one of them all realized at the same time that it's a bad idea to give GL players months of foresight
One of the other gachas I play also decided to speed up to catch the GL server up to JP. I don't think there's a merge planned but they want to start having stuff release simultaneously on both servers.
My final DE:T Reprise results. Gotta love Auron
>Gotta love Auron
True. I solo'd everything with Auron except the last stage. I really liked that the boosted characters were not part of the lockout content. I hope that we get that same luxury whenever our next Dare to Defy is. It not only incentivizes you to build one of the boosted units, but it also gives you plenty of excuses to use them. I really hope they keep that for future lockout events
I just used Lightning/Serah/Random bonus unit for nearly everything.
The exceptions being that one dragon boss where you had to let him trigger his lufenia orb. And the jar bosses where I finally got to use DKC again.
So who should be priority for the upcoming banners in terms of usefulness for clearing any bs boss gimmicks? Kelger, Queen or Lenna? I can skip Enna because i have her full kit sans her BT, which i can token if necessary.
>Kelger
Rubicante tier broken, can solo stages with very little difficulty, if you were gonna go for his color at all then he's fantastic
>Queen
Kinda niche but good, was talked about earlier in this thread actually, right here
, I wouldn't say she's super necessary but might be fun to mess around with
>Lennah
Very good, but also optional, has a lot of party utility wrapped up in a package that does a surprising amount of damage with followups, big thing is her debuff immunity which is always nice, and good auras, I'd say go for her if you were interested in White Crystal at all but if not I'd still consider her
This whole schedule shift really screwed with my plans because I want one of everything this month and I only have so much pull resources, I was already tight this month with Lennah, Enna Kros and Golbez and now they're dropping early Kelger, Queen and Strago? Sheesh.
Like the other anon said, Kelger is Rubicante #2, evasion edition. I think he's basically more damage but no gauge charge. Lenna FR is helpful to have due to Leviathan Spiritus apparently. There is some mechanic that wants your entire party to have >100% HP, so overheal really helps, but you can also use a different FR, ability, or D6. I don't know if there is also some other mechanic that she helps out with or not. For canceling the enemy Force Time, if you don't pull Lenna FR there is Rosa and Braska for current-ish characters, or Iroha and Maria for older ones. Llyud hasn't been a character in like a year
Something that I have not seen mentioned previously about Queen is that her FR is +50% HP cap up on changed BRV/HP attacks, and her BT gives another +50% HP cap up on changed BRV/HP attacks, so a cute thing that might be cool is if you pair her with Ursula for her +50% HP cap up on changed HP attacks and her HP attack battery. Probably not worth pulling either character for, but something you could try out if you do have both of them due to other reasons
Only thing I'm really pulling for is Kelger. I always hope/try for the FRs, but I'm still trying to break that habit. I really would like Golbez, but I went to pity on Ardyn in early Shinryu, didn't get the Golbez BT there, and I'm not gonna gem pull on a Garnet banner
>Crystal quest gave me Quistis boss
>goes completely immune to damage unless delayed during most of its thresholds
>Reroll
>Reks boss
>heals damage done and removes all buffs with counter move
>no more free rerolls
Son of a b***h
>but in general it's breathed some life into the game and helped give different players different experiences.
LOL?
I'm only okay with this if he gets a robot dog companion.
>Red? Who? You mean the dog I just put down with a shotgun blast to the forehead? Anyway, check out my dog summon assist.
Well I was expecting a VII character, since the 7th chapter always has VII things going on. Kinda neat, honestly. I'm sure the Red XIII fanboys are crying once again.
He cute
I'm glad they went with the OG design instead of whatever the frick this was supposed to be.
>Belts hanging from more belts that are just dangling from the outfit uselessly
Nomura strikes again, like a thief in the night
Most hilarious is that Rufus for the remake wasn't even designed by Nomura, but by his pasta pupil Roberto Ferrari.
Good ol uncessesary belts Nomura
Captures his Bowie aesthetic.
So the Turks will become baddies now? I'm not gonna be surprised if they add Elena first before Nanaki.
Just don't add Hojo, FFVII has already too much characters in this game.When Luneth, Arc, Refia and Ingus are near impossible to be included.
I'm guessing they're gonna wait until Rebirth gets released to add Elena.
And it's safe to assume we're gonna get the remaining Tsviet members. Angeal was also datamined and something tells me Genesis will show up at some point, Gakt voice and everything.
The real question marks are Loz and Yazoo. They've been teased in the story but who knows if they'll show up or not.
>Gakt and FFVII literal whos
I can take Genesis, but Angeal? Please not another "Cloud clone", and I hope they'll scrap him. There are better characters available that needs a rework. And if they'll add more characters, add more baddies like Hein, Adel, Yunalesca and Doctor Cid.
I'd rather have Edea before Adel. Then again, VIII hasn't received a new character in years despite Laguna's buddies and the aforementioned Edea being right there to use.
I'm also dead convinced that XII Cidolfus hasn't been added yet because his original VA died and they don't want to recast now. Japan has that tendency.
>I'm also dead convinced that XII Cidolfus hasn't been added yet because his original VA died and they don't want to recast now. Japan has that tendency.
I guess thats why Aulstyne won't have too much of a chance as well due to his JP VA beilng dead as well.
Too bad, you get Angeal...eventually.
He got datamined like 2 years ago, people thought he was going to be a GL first.
Him and Rikku are the only datamined characters left so here's hoping.
I'm fricking stoked. Rufus has always been one of my favorite Final Fantasy characters and I've been waiting since OO first came out in JP to see him appear in the game. I hope he has some nice animations like he got in the remake.
>finally complete DE with Setzer
>don't receive the multi ticket
T-thanks
Obligatory I want Tactics characters post
Yes but I only want Advance characters
Ngl, Ezel having moves that cheat the system to represent his anti-law cards would be hilarious.
I started playing when Agrias was added. That was four years ago.
I'm fine with that, mostly because it'll give them a chance to add more nonhumans. I want my crossover games to be weird. I don't want half the cast to be teenagers wearing red capes.
just learned this thread existed, im decently new to this game, been playing for a month. who are the people I should be pulling for in the next set of banners coming? I still dont know whos good or bad yet
Counter tanks (Rubicante, Beatrix, Auron) can solo lots of things on their own. Kelger coming up is in that category, but like Galuf he's more evasion focused. You should pull for Kelger 100%. He is able to solo tons of fights and a lot of the Crystal Quest stages as well, and the Sword UW is a pretty good UW to have built anyway. It's not like it's a Whip or (like Cater will be later) a Gun
Kelger is the only must pull of the next units. Lenna can be helpful, and she is very good, but not a must pull. Maybe pull up to her FR if you want to. Queen is an easy skip unless you like Queen. She has an immortality gimmick which is cute and she gives the party Last Stand, which I think is another gimmick that not many units have, but she's not anything to pull for unless you already know you want her. The whole month is like that really; it's a bunch of units who you have no reason to pull for unless you already know that you want them (besides Kelger). Kelger is a must pull, everyone else is skippable. Get up to Lenna's FR using tickets if you can just because she's helpful. Enna's value increases a little if you do not have Astos, but even if you do not have Astos I probably would not recommend that new players go out of their way to pull Enna's entire kit unless you just like her. The Enna Kros nuke thing requires too much setup for too little payoff at this point in the game when Astos functions that same way naturally and when other damage dealers like Aranea can put up somewhat comparable numbers more naturally
i did see Tifa was coming who im interested in, is she worth it? Also damn is using tickets to get up to FR normal? last time I tried that it took about 250 tickets. Also yes I do have astos, he's my most powerful character. I finally started to be able to beat crystal quests (at lvl 0) with him.
Tifa's a bit outdated at this point, but she has an Echo so she's still a fairly reliable damage dealer as long as you have her BT. Tifa and Squall have always had the same problem throughout the game's life span- they're pure big dick damage dealers with nothing else going on. So when they get updated, they're on a whole other level, but they quickly fall off as other characters with more utility catch up to them. But even as far as raw damage goes, Tifa obviously pales in comparison to Astos. And she's still outmatched by Aranea, who also rebreaks, delays, and launches, as well as Weiss and Dorgann who spread their damage to other characters' turns. Tifa just doesn't have much going for her right now.
>i did see Tifa was coming who im interested in, is she worth it?
If you have a Fist UW built for Rubicante then she can be worth it, sure. 10-12 HP attacks single target is still a good amount. She's not as crazy as she used to be but she's still useable. I would probably not recommend pulling her, but if you wan to it wouldn't be a bad idea
>Also damn is using tickets to get up to FR normal?
I've been playing for about a year and a half, so I have everything from every character except new FRs and then whichever BTs I didn't want. The only thing I use tickets for is to get FRs. Back in Lufenia+, I used tickets to get LDs. You can pretty safely pull LDs and FRs with tickets in most cases, and if you're actually new, I think there are over 10k tickets in permanent content for you to be clearing, so 250 is not much for you. Spending about 200 tickets for an FR is pretty normal I think
I see. Thanks for the information. I didn’t realize there were that many tickets to get, I already nabbed a bunch from the spiritus chests that gave 10k gems and 100 tickets each so I thought I was low since I went through those quick
>I didn’t realize there were that many tickets to get
There are, but the bulk of them are associated with the largest grinds in the game, Summon Boards (for the characters) and Divine Summon Boards. The good news is that you really only need to do the grinds once and then they're done forever (mostly; you might still need to grind character summon points when new ones come out). The bad news is that the grinds are pretty bad, and arguably they are even worse now that we never get "boosted" characters for them anymore. You should save your free premium mogpass for whenever you decide you want to tackle these grinds
>Divine = (400tickets*10summons) = 4,000 tickets
>Character = (30tickets*172characters) = 5,160 tickets
So that's 9,160 tickets right there
Oh shit, I also forgot that Noel is on the Enna Kros IW banner. At this point in the game, and especially because you already have Astos, I cannot really recommend Enna Kros. However, I do recommend getting Noel's FR if you have Dorgann and/or Cor. I don't really know if I'd recommend Noel on his own, but with Dorgann he does a lot of damage, and with Cor he has an infinite if you can delay your own team enough (via Crystal Passives or Reno or natural boss mechanics and/or turn order)
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(video of the upcoming Lenna Leviathan Spiritus with Noel/Cor infinite)
If, for some reason, you really want Queen, then Noel is one of the few characters that synergizes well with her. So that's another reason to consider him. Or you're one of the unhinged lunatics that decided to focus on upgrading yellow crystals in preparation for Sehl'teus.
>200 tix on Jill Nabaht
>TFW everything except for her BURST and LD
Guess I'm not destined to use her, huh?
I still don't understand why at this point EX and LD tokens aren't available just as regularly as red ones. They would help a lot.
>LD Tokens
To sell you that LD tokens pack
>EX tokens
No excuse really.
I know there's at least one fellow Rydiabro here. JP getting Rydia BT Sep 7th looks like
>Rydia BT AND PCecil FR
Now I want that server merge
Yup, same. I just considered starting a JP account because I could get Faris and her 18 HP attack trap, Gladio, and Rydia... but then I would be playing in a language I do not understand, needing to regrind everything again. Sucks
>RYDIA BT
RYDIABROS WE WINNING
>Pecil finally getting an upgrade
Time to rev up those pities.
>Lufenia orb in SHINRYU fights
My Japanese is pretty shitty, but it's looking like Rufus has something like Astos where he gets an overhead that increases the damage he does by a significant amount. I believe it boosts his follow up though rather than having it apply to his general damage. Then it appears that Rydia is getting a counter attack or pre-emptive attack with her BT aura active so she is probably going to be pretty top tier for counter teams now. I imagine you'll see a lot of Rydia/Faris clears.
>Then it appears that Rydia is getting a counter attack or pre-emptive attack with her BT aura active
I think it batteries the party too, so that's pretty cool. I wonder if it will be strong enough for her to do Kelger solos, or at least Cater level solos. I still can't believe that Faris had her trap upgraded to fricking 18 HP attacks
>I still don't understand why at this point EX and LD tokens aren't available just as regularly as red ones
I'm guessing because the EX provides a sphere and because the LD provides a call. The 15/35 don't actually "do" anything, they're just necessary
Oh, and the Rydia counter looks like it inflicts [Feyfroth], which is her FR debuff that gives enemies -100% accuracy (+20% HP damage taken, -50% def) for 3 turns. I was wondering what they were going to do with Rydia's FR evasion-wise, because they gave Cater party wide 100% evasion, and I guess that's a different way to go about the same effect
>Then it appears that Rydia is getting a counter attack or pre-emptive attack with her BT aura active
I imagine Rydia will have a BT effect that will prevent her evasion buff to fall off, that will be so much better. And I hope with Basch' eventual BT/FR release they'll give him a counter attack BT effect.
Her BT counter inflicts a special blind debuff, so her evasion buff won't be necessary while it's up. Kind of a redundant way to go about it, but whatever works. At least it means you don't have to worry about the enemy taking too many turns and eating up all her evade stacks.
Pecil's new outfit. I think it looks like shit, but the few reactions I've seen seem to like it, so maybe I'm the crazy one. I definitely think they should have gone with his TAY costume to match Rosa and Edge.
I think it looks great.
So they said in the video that they are planning to introduce changes to how the FR gauge works but that the details will be released later. Do you guys think these changes will be better or for the worse?
We've only got rough translations to go by, but it seems like if you cancel the enemy's Force Gauge, they get Lufenia orbs instead. The entirety of Lufenia+ after c90 showed that Lufenia orbs can be just as lazy and boring as Shinryu fights where the enemy doesn't do anything outside of Force Time except let you kick them in the dick until they fall over, so we'll have to see. I predict most of them will just end up being fights where the character they're shilling can cancel Force Time AND tick up the orb themself, making it just as braindead if you're synergy stomping and a bigger pain in the ass if you aren't.
Actually it looks like enemies will no longer have FR time, so no need to worry about canceling it. Instead once they reach 100%, throw out a big attack and then that's it. But now at certain parts of the fight (hp percentages) or after FR activation or after you activate your FR, they'll get Lufenia-style orbs that you'll need to deal with.
>the point of FR echoes is to take extra turns while not wasting FR turns
>let’s bring Lufenias orbs to counteract this
It doesn’t sound like a problem on paper, but all they have to do is make the orb count low or make it tick down fast with very special conditions to tick it up, and it’d be the most cancerous thing to these fights where bosses are just health sponges now.
>making it just as braindead if you're synergy stomping
You mean "completing the ticket mission"
The thing I hate the most about this era are the ticket missions. I don't even hate Shinryu as much as most people, but I really dislike having such an important reward being locked behind a specific character that you HAVE to use.
I want to believe the devs know this and this is why GL is getting so many exclusive lockout events
>The thing I hate the most about this era are the ticket missions
Yeah, same here. I've been completing the ticket mission ever since back last year when it was only 10 regular tickets instead of a 10+1 pull. I think it started around Dorgann, which was in November. Ever since whenever that was, I have had to have one slot in my party dedicated to dragging a unit I don't even like through a Shinryu fight. Echo actually made this a lot easier, but it's still moronic. The only times I've been able to actually use a team that I want to be using is Six-Warrior quests (because I only actually use 3 characters anyway) and then the lockout content as you mentioned. I feel exactly the same way
Between crystal quests with their obscene health pools with defensive force times with very specific break conditions, and with every odd numbered dare to defy arriving as unbalanced shit I'm cautiously unoptimistic.
oh gee I wonder what the surprise is, it could be anything
They still need to go over the Six-Warrior Cater event, the Spiritus Alexander Deuce event, and the FuSoYa Lost Chapter before they can give us Selh'teus. I think they could have crammed those 3 events in from Sept 21st - Sept 30th and then started October off with Selh'teus and FE50. I actually think that's still what they're going to do, so I really don't understand why they split the streams up like this. I'm not expecting any "additional" surprises, so it's not really making any sense to me
The devs messed up the updates in GL like this before, doesn't necessarily mean it's happening right away. Like how Tidus had his Blitzball follow-up attack before his actual rework + LD/BT, and we only got it officially much later.
If I'm wrong though, good thing I got a bunch of cactuar tokens in the bank, lmao.
There's no way they'll give us Sehl'teus before FE50. I think that's just leftover data they forgot to expunge when they copied it over from JP. It happens sometimes. The most infamous example is when Tidus got a bugged version of his follow-up attack way before he was supposed to.
I know it won't happen, but an early Selh release would be sick
Dude is so cool he gets to have TWO allies in his FR.
Also, the implication that Fran is Balthier's pet bunny like Rufus' pet coeurl
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Very brief look at Rufus' FR. I don't know which implication I like less. That Fran is Balthier's pet, or that Rufus is fricking his robot dog.
>Re-Shinryu
>get one additional 10+1 ticket for completing (game is even more generous)
>enemy Force Gauge functions more like the old recast bars did; the enemy does an attack when it fills, then it goes back to 0
>Lufenia orbs are back (this first one seems rather oppressive)
>hopefully the orb mechanics will disincentivized spinning in circles spamming one empty button (i.e. "gauge charging")
>this orb, for example, seems like a player will be -1 on a "gauge charge" turn unless there is some ranged gauge charger I can't remember
>seems like it also punishes off turn strategies (-1 on best case scenario)
>might have to actually use BT and Summon phases just to tick the orb up if you get behind (like old times)
>will need to actually think about using calls or gauge charge or AA again, might need to think ahead and plan moves out (wow)
I'm looking forward to this. I really miss Lufenia orbs. Shinryu fights never fricking do anything. You just blow them up in a Force Time, charge the gauge if you want to be extra lame/efficient. They never fight back. Enemy Force attack is usually like a fricking BRV hit or something moronic, rarely if ever threatening. At least with a Lufenia orb, even if the enemies are still pushovers it will actually be possible that you can fail the fight if you don't manage the orb. I really look forward to the first fight that causes enemies to turn warp, take a million turns in a row, and then they pop the Lufenia orb that way, allowing units like Relm or Shelke or Leila to shine. Good times. I don't care what anyone says, Shinryu so far has been the real Garbage Time
>Rydia BT (counter attack that inflicts her -100% accuracy debuff)
>Galuf FE50
>Minwu rework/Echo later this month
based
Treating the enemy Force Attack like a recast that'll go off even if they don't take a turn is interesting. I'd like to see if it still pauses during your Force Time, because the way it works now I'd rather it didn't. I'm still waiting and seeing because like I said before, there were plenty of shitty, boring Lufenia fights so just adding orbs isn't going to instantly make things better, but the overall mechanics seem more solid. If nothing else, this helps balance out the roster. You still want your Force Time up so gauge chargers will still be useful, you'll just have to actually strategize when you can get away with it and the enemy won't just sit there and let you use Healing Wind eight times in a row. Off-turn attacks are devalued a bit (bit this depends on the orb- some Lufenias didn't tick down on enemy turns), but they can still react to enemy Force Attacks. And now turn warpers won't be completely worthless. This has the potential to create the best fights we've ever had in this game. All they have to do is actually put some fricking effort into the fights and not just give the bosses a generic BRV and a generic HP, with one AoE as a Force Attack like they've been doing.
>because the way it works now I'd rather it didn't
Yeah, if it's just a glorified recast gauge like it sounds like it might be, I would also prefer that it didn't pause during Force Time
>there were plenty of shitty, boring Lufenia fights so just adding orbs isn't going to instantly make things better
I disagree. In my opinion, a lot of people's complaints with Lufenia(+) could be solved by using LD only units. I think that especially during Garbage Time, the possible player power level was so much higher than the stage required that it the people who were taking 3 BT+ units to every single fight were essentially playing Lufenia+ the same way that everyone plays Shinryu now; by blowing the fight up in 10 turns. For those players, there was functionally no change when going from Lufenia+ to Shinryu. For the people like me who chose to have fun with LD only units in Lufenia+, we traded slow, methodical, puzzle-like fights for whatever the frick Shinryu is. I do admit that the absolute brainlessness of Shinryu has kinda grown on me more than I thought it would, but I still think that the player side woes of Lufenia were mostly due to players choosing to stomp everything with 3 BT+ units when I think the fights were balanced around LD only units, which is what I chose to use and I had fun doing it. Anyway though, I think that adding an orb does make a fight inherently better, since it can actually kill you if there's an orb. Shinryu fights cannot currently kill you outside of like Hell House (or Shiva Spiritus, but that's just you being walled, no you dying)
>destroys solos and counter tanks
Counter tanks are probably never going away unless there is an orb that punishes you for doing damage outside of your turn. Solos, however, will be dead in any instance where a "solo character" cannot reliably keep the orb at bay, even if they equip an appropriate call and/or sphere (so not entirely, but they will be rarer; you could still solo some in Luf+)
-2 player, -2 enemy, +2 on turn only is shit. If anything this encourages charging because it will give +3 (net +1) where ranged attack will net +0
>If anything this encourages charging because it will give +3 (net +1) where ranged attack will net +0
Did you ever play Lufenia or Lufenia+, anon? Is there even a gauge charge move that is Ranged? If there is a gauge charging move that is Ranged and this gauge charge move provides 100% BRV, that would still only be +1
Actually, I see now that I misread your comment. Sorry. I also looked at Irvine, Cater, Amarant, and Rosa and their gauge charge moves are typeless (or magic?) and I'm unaware of any other ranged gauge chargers
This orb is probably meant for Rydia, whose counter attack batteries the party, with Pecil (or Rufus?) Ranged attacks. But you could probably also have Freya in the air with a team of Ranged attackers and fulfil the orb condition that way too, since Freya's spears battery the party. Sice traps are melee and Ace traps are Magic, so I don't think you can jank charge that way. I don't think you're gauge charging that orb. Not all orbs are perfect, not all orbs are always going to counter every bullshit way to play the game, but I think it's a step in the right direction because even if the enemy does nothing, at least the orb might
There seem to be multiple things that you are still not reading correctly.
Would you care to enlighten me?
You two, stop that. This isn't /ffg/.
I did read misread his initial comment, but I don't know what he's talking about now. I don't see how the orb conditions supposedly encourage gauge charging, since the Ranged characters who have gauge charging moves have typeless charging abilities. If they hit the BRV condition, they wont tick the +2 condition. If anything, it actually encourages on-turn Ranged abilities that do not gauge charge but that do refund or battery
Alternatively, you could probably do some frickery like Beatrix, Gladio, and Freya so that every turn the enemy takes (-2) you can theoretically get +3 (+1 for each of their off-turn attacks since they all battery), but that would be very risky since your only Ranged damage would be Freya who does not have a BT phase to save you if the orb gets low
I hope the new difficulty fricking destroys solos and counter tanks as well as any cheesy strats like Quina/Ultimecia.
SHIT
>Sanctuary Keepers
Oh nice, it's the enemies that can fricking one shot you before the fight begins.
The funniest part is that they just jerked off VII for a month, there is even a character whose BT prevents the debuffs, but nope, Type-0! VII gets the CHAOS lol
Man, everything about this Shinryu is weird.
>Details and Tips screens don't list enemy attacks
>Force weakness to dark BRV attacks even though none of the synergy characters can do it (although now that I think of it, I guess Golbez must have originally overlapped with this event)
>Buffs fall off at some point- presumably their attacks lowered my buff durations but I don't know for sure
>Description says they use Eagleflame+ after their turns in Force Time but they never did- is it because I had Rydia Call up and they missed? No idea.
Doesn't feel finished.
Someone did the Queen + Ursula changed HP attack spam setup with Reno, who has currently the most HP attacks on his changed HP. ~50 mil per with max gauge, which is a lot more than I expected. Much better than the "cute" that I called it earlier. That's actually Astos numbers (100 mil single target Astos vs 50 mil aoe 2 targets Reno, and would be 150 mil if 3 targets)
Looks also like Rufus does Astos levels of damage
Yeah, not really gonna touch Jihl after this so...
dunno what the frick I was doing with Ace but I did it, and I fricking never want to do this shit again. Total Sanctuary Keeper Death. Roundhouse kick Sanctuary keepers boil Sanctuary Keepers in a wok etc etc.
Fun fact: Sice can avoid the Keepers' counter attack with her evasion from Phantom Slash. She still gets forced break but doesn't get debuffed.
Same with Eight
They have really low health too. This fight wasn't bad in practice.
Felt like pulling out Beardpuddle and Totto for this one (Will do it again with Queen and Rubicante at some point for the ticket)
Since there is at least one newfriend here, I thought I'd post that both Gladio and Eiko are on the same banner together (Queen's), and both of them are pretty valuable LD calls. Eiko to revive (great for solo carrying a bronze ticket mission unit with Rubicante/Kelger) and Gladio to prevent damage entirely for a few turns. Gladio is also capable of being used as an LD only unit (and he has personal debuff immunity), though it's not really recommended if you can help it
So I bought ten tickets off the cactuar exchange and decided to spend them. Got this. How good is she? I was planning to give her a hard pass because I remember her being kind of awkward to use due to how she locks you out of skills with her overhead.
A pretty decent support that does almost acceptable damage (8 HP attacks) and provides party wide Last Stand (only Porom, Freya, and Lyse do this, so she's the most updated unit with that feature unless you count Rem's BT). She also provides extra damage boosts for units that use changed HP attacks or EXs as their main source of damage. The thing that's kind of a bummer about her is that you really only want to be pushing her S1, S2, or LD, because if you press her EX she starts getting fast turn rate, and you should absolutely have someone else in your party that does more than 8 single target HP attacks with 20% splash. She basically exists to buff another unit in your party that is spamming HP attacks (or EX attacks). She's kinda like Ursula in that regard
Does Cloud just have too many passives to equip? Compared to every other unit i've fully maxed, he NEEDS a UW to be able to equip all his passives and artifacts.
>this fricking Shinryu
>boss always goes first
>opening attack to take 60% off of everyone
>have to restart the fight until they dont feel like using their plus AOE after the opening
>applies debuffs immediately
>counter if you have debuff
>counter if you take too many turns
>free debuff applying off turn
>Only Type 0 units
>but you can use a helper!
Good fight. Gooooooooood fight.
Use Eight with a cleanse call. Keep manipulating turns.
What team can i use to carry a non-built Queen thru her Shinryu? I tried to take Tifa and Aerith, but i fell short with one alive at 30%. Maybe a tank team of Rubi and Auron would work?
Rubi can work, yeah, but you want to get to your Force Time asap since Rubi only refills his HP when he is in his Force Time. Auron only works if you have D4. You have like 2k HP in that fight, so any tank you bring needs to have Last Stand and self sustain or Evasion, since the only guaranteed hit attack is the Force Time. You can use Rem BT to zombie the party. You can probably just blow it up with Astos too
Yeah, their HP is pathetic for a current Shinryu, so any of the current damage dealers like Astos, Aranea, or Weiss can decimate it once they're up and running. The hard part is surviving long enough to let them. Rem, Zack, or hell even Basch should help out.
If you have Astos he'll destroy it. I blew through it with Aerith, Astos and an unbuilt Queen. I had Yuna's Call on Aerith (to remove debuffs), Sezter Call on Queen and Lunafreya on Astos. Just charged wthe FR gauge with Aerith and then popped her BT when her FR was maxed. Queen went next and I used Sezter Call and one of her attacks. Then on Astos' turn I used his FR. Then let Aerith Echo -> Echo -> LD, Queen used one of her attacks and then used Lunafreya Call on Astos and went FR -> BT -> BT phase and annihilated them.
I've spent fifty tickets! Are you fricking kidding me right now!?
Meanwhile I hit 500 G-tokens with no BT, LD or FR. So I had to pity both the FR and the LD and then buy the BT with tokens. He broke me.
>mfw out of high armor tokens
Speeding up these character releases has made budgeting out realization materials harder. I've always made sure I've held on to 20, but I already used those on Nabaat
That sucks. At least you had the tokens and didn't have to go full double or triple pity. Nobody wants to seriously consider that it might happen to them, but
shows that it's always possible.
Hey FRICK YOU, give mine back!
It's pretty clear that we all need to rise up and kill this Luck Vampire.
In tonights news: Local man wearing a wolf mask shanks elderly blitzball player on the street. The man is still loose and on the run.
Spend 110 tickets and didn't get his FR or BT so I'm gonna have to pass on this furry after all.
>had to go full pity for the BT
>plus an extra 200 tickets for the FR and LD
That hurt, but with him in my roster I'm basically set for Red Crystal for life.
Similar happened to me, except I actually got the FR while climbing towards the BT, so I had to ticket just to get the LD.
[/spoiler]And of course I got the BT during said ticket pulls AFTER I pitied it... fml
>he didn't pull for kelger
HESITATION IS DEFEAT
>400 G Tokens
>no BT, no FR, no EX
>100 tickets, get FR
>70 more tickets get EX
Frick this game
On my way to pity the BT as soon as i scratch up enough gems for the last multi. Judging by the thread i should be happy i got the rest of his weapons, but frick im broke for at least 2 months.
At least he's really cool. That's what I'm telling myself anyway.
Update, it literally gave me the BT in the last multi for spark. They game really fricking did it to me, huh
That has to be a MAN WITH A MISSION reference, right?
newbie here, should i go for kelger's BT?
Yes. He's Rubicante 2.0 but with Evasion and no gauge charge
This Shinryu Crystal mission is rough. Any ideas for getting through it? The enemies blind you, you have to kill both of them at the same time or they respawn, and there aren't any FF9 characters who can prevent or remove debuffs or FR charge and most of the FF9 FR characters I have are better for off-damage than on-turn damage means that they'll blind someone, which will probably result in you killing one before the other.
>Any ideas for getting through it?
>The enemies blind you
>have to kill both of them at the same time
Just go into Force Time, grab an Aerith friend, charge the percentage, and then nuke with Echoes. Use Hope (and others if needed) to buff clog so that Blind can't land. It's so much easier than the Sanctuary Keepers
I've been trying that. But by the time I get into FR time, my characters have been blinded and with so many attacks missing, one of the enemies is half dead and the other is still mostly full. At that point I can't kill them both off at the same time, and just get stuck in a loop where they keep resummoning one another.
>I've been trying that. But by the time I get into FR time, my characters have been blinded
Use the calls way sooner then. Hope and Gladio are my go to buff clog calls. Garnet has 2 party buffs. That's 5 of 6 buffs right there, and whoever you're bringing probably has a couple buffs. Also, the speed down one isn't really bad to have and that's another thing that clogs a buff slot. If Force Time is really taking you that long to get to, you can reapply the calls before you actually go into Force Time. Avoiding the Blind is incredibly easy. If you're killing one before the other, then maybe do one round of Echoes at the beginning, and then pop summon to do the second round of Echoes. You should be doing like 10mil+ at least with each Echo so it shouldn't be too difficult to kill them both at the same time unless you're new and don't have any of the FFIX Echo units built, in which case I don't have any advice to give
i finally managed to lvl 5 my first ultima weapon for astos, which weapon type should i start to level next? basic sword like Weiss uses? greatsword for auron?
Basic sword is generally the most useful since an extremely wide variety of characters can use it.
That's a question for you to answer. Which units do you find yourself using the most? Are there any units you are looking forward to? What weapon type do they use?
Unique is the only UW that I have never dismantled. I've considered once or twice, but have never actually done it, because there always seems to be a few insane Unique UWs, even before Astos existed. Greatsword is another one that's always good. I have dismantled Greatsword before many months ago, but Beatrix made me bring it back. Sword is a popular one, but I personally don't like it as much as other people, though Kelger is pretty huge. Fist UW is really good, but it's basically only for Rubicante as far as current meta goes. Dagger has Rem and Reno. Spear has Aranea and Quina, and Quina's damage is slept on a lot I feel. I used to really like Staff, basically only because Minwu, but I think it's fallen out of favor since Echo happened. The others are generally significantly less useful, and you'd only really have them if you have a personal favorite that uses something like Gun, Bow, or Whip
>get kelger's BT really early
>300 tickets and no LD in sight
luck giveth, luck taketh.
>no Kelgar bt
>not enough gems to pity
>have to wait until leviatan spiritus to finish the banner
If they drop Faris, Fujin, Keiss, or Gladio early, I might actually rage quit.
>If they drop Faris, Fujin, Keiss, or Gladio early, I might actually rage quit.
I know that feel, bro. This speedup shit is bananas. Not only that, but my luck seems to be getting worse as time goes on. I originally planned to pull Cater, but I might have to skip her because I'll need to pull Selh'teus since he's new. Everything in this picture is within 4 months of today
Same here, these next months were already gonna be pretty hard for me but with all the schedule shuffling they are doing, things are going to be even harder, just this month I'm gonna have to rely REALLY hard on luck to get what I want, and Kelger didn't really give the best first impression...
I kinda regret not making an alt when we had the Rubicante rerun at the same time as the Astos banner. I could have coasted through everything with Rubicante, Astos, and Kelger. Now I don't even know if I'll still have gems by the time Rydia comes, especially because I want the Faris and Gladio BTs too, so that's 3 BTs back to back to back and I can only really ever guarantee myself to have 50 BT tokens
Got everything with tickets except for his LD. I'm ready to drop 35k gems
Got Kelger's BT with 530 tickets, nabbing at least 4 copies of the rest of his kit along the way, except for his EX which I only got 3 of. I then gave him Eight's, Weiss', and Snow's spheres.
First 10 pull with tickets gave me two Kelger BTs and 90 tickets later, I have his full kit and a 3rd BT. Finally, some good fricking luck.
Golbez, worth pulling or ignore?
Has really good numbers and covers a lot of different roles, from damage dealing, defense and party buffing all in one slot. He generally works for any content and his utility means he might actually beat Astos for a slot if the mechanics in a fight are too restrictive. And a BRV Freeze aura is always nice. He's got a lot of nice things that you might not specifically need but would probably find use in somewhere, even Crystal Quests.
I'm sure people would rush to say "BUT YOU DON'T NEED HIM BECAUSE ASTOS!!!" but I'll tell you he's really nice to have even with him, if you have the resources.
NTA, but I'm pulling for his FR because it's fricking Golbez
If you're asking because you're new and you genuinely don't know, then ignore Golbez, though I will always recommend that a newbie throw a few tickets at each banner to try to at least get the LDs. He's for people who already know that they want Golbez, and in almost all of those cases, they're pulling because Golbez, not because of what he does, and I say that as a FFIVgay
His damage isn't the greatest given the current damage dealing landscape where you have even supports doing ~10 HP attacks per turn. You'll need a way to guarantee his EX recharges every turn in order for him to deal truly decent damage, so Queen is a good partner, but if you do that then you're essentially using 2 supports just to turn one into an okay damage dealer, which isn't really ideal team building. His BT effect, BRV Freeze, is very nice especially because it's on a BT effect and cannot be dispelled (and you can use D3 and D6 to "extend" its duration) but you can also get BRV Freeze on a Setzer call or a Cater call and that will probably cover whatever you need it for anyway. His FR is probably the best part of his kit; the ever elusive party-wide Dark enchant, with +50% HP damage cap up, which is almost a necessity on any "main" FR nowadays. If you put him on a team, it's probably to use his FR as the driving FR while using his BT effect to lock down any dangerous enemy attacks (hint: in Shinryu, enemies tend to not be even the slightest bit dangerous). You'd probably be using someone else's BT phase, not his, and depending on who you're using as your main damage dealer, it might not even be beneficial to be using Golbez's FR as the driving FR
That said, Shinryu is easy. You can definitely use him as damage dealer if you want. There's some Freya autist that uses Golbez just because his FR partner is Freya (and uses Freya!). Looks like his most recent video is when he got his FE50 (synergy)
>no event extension
Seriously? Didn't they miss like 3 or 4 events?
What even was the issue? The way Josh mentioned it on stream, he seemed very dismissive of it. It gave me the feeling that in order for people to be encountering this error, they must be doing something nefarious
It affected people with certain phone models, they couldn't launch the game after a specific update. I think the reason they were dismissive was to sweep it under the rug because that bug had been around since late July and they kept ignoring the complaints.
300 tickets. 4 dupes of Garnet's FR. I hate it.
>100 tickets
>get Garnet's BT and 2 FRs (already had)
>one more 10 pull
>get Golbez BT
>300 more tickets
>still no FR
This fricking game, man
>free multi
>dupe Garnet FR
>10 tickets
>dupe Garnet FR
>4 more tickets
>dupe Garnet FR
OKAY I GET IT FRICK OFF
>got his BT in 5 pulls and his FR even earlier
I could cry right now, thank you Golbez
>FF6
I have a shit luck on every banner for months now. Then, even the event is against me. I dunno if my only FF6 fully built character Celes can pull this off.
Yeah, same. I only have Celes built. I fricking hate these series requirements. I like crystal color or weapon type requirements a lot more, especially because all the series that I have more than one character built for are all relegated to Chaos and Lufenia shit
I don't want to waste my CB points for my FR/BTless Setzer just to clear this. It feels like my Celes can do it, but the mechanic that I can't grant buffs makes it impossible for me to clear it.
I completely forgot that Strago had an FR already, but it really came in handy here. Mog carried as always. I can't believe I thought I'd never end up using him. Since I've started enhancing blue crystals, he's been absurdly useful.
Just noticed that JP never had another Crevasse event after Auron. And GL skipped over that. Hmmm....
I will be a bit dissapointed if they don't make another Crevasse, but it won't be a complete surprise, they seem to like D2D more as a lock-out/pull bait event.
Can't say I'm surprised, still a bit iffy on how positive or negative a change these Shinryu Orbs will be, but I guess any change is better than no change.
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Rydia's BT animation fricking sucks. The effect however, does not.
The BT should have involved her mom's dragon, because that would have been way more thematic and made more sense, seeing as how it's a counter attack on evasion (just like Cold Mist is), and I don't think it makes any sense for Flare Tornado to result in an effect that does a water counter attack on evasion, but also that's kinda just what Flare Tornado looked like. I think they chose poorly, it should have had something to do with her mom's dragon kinda like how the Faris BT shows Syldra (and the Faris Syldra effect causes the Whirlpool counter) but as far as the actual animation for Flare Tornado, it looks fine compared to the source material
It's like Ashe's BT finisher. Yeah, I get the reference. That's nice and all. But it still looks awful.
It should have been her summoning Titan. That was like the most important moment for her in the original game.
>That was like the most important moment for her in the original game.
That would actually have been coming back and saving everyone from Golbez.
Or using fire to melt the ice so they can get to Fabul
Its so moronic, doesnt even make sense with what it does.
Only good thing how it looked was Rydia whipping a tornado.
It's gonna look even dumber when they actually put Luca in the game and her axe still just materializes from nothing.
Ehh, that's as close as I'll ever get to having Luca as a playable character so I'll take it.
If they add Luca, I won't be surprised if they add Cidney as her FR partner. But what even Cidney does beside being a mechanic? And if she doesn't get in, who will be Luca's better FR partner since those suitable for her are already taken.
I was gonna say Barret for obvious reasons, but he's already paired with Setzer.
Also, they made movesets out of characters who had nothing before, Cidney showing up is a credible threat.
As expected and as was evidenced from Lufenia/+, solos are not going away, you just wont be able to solo stages where a solo-capable character cannot keep the orb at bay so they should in theory be less frequent
>400 tickets for Golbez FR and a duplicate BT
Fug. At least I still haven't picked up those tickets in the spiritus boards yet...
I swear those morons hate Rydia and love that garbage After the years more
I think The After Years is a total waste of time and would never play it again, but in a crossover like this I actually do want to see the characters in their latest forms. I may not like TAY, but it's still neat seeing Cecil, Rosa, and Ceodore interacting, along with all the aged-up designs. I find it way more annoying that the FFXIV characters are stuck in stasis where none of the original Scions can go past their ARR incarnations and even the Leveilleur twins are really outdated. The FFVII characters are in this weird middle-ground where they totally don't have memories after Disc 1, but they're constantly dealing with Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus content and Cloud has Omnislash ver.5 anyway.
>I find it way more annoying that the FFXIV characters are stuck in stasis where none of the original Scions can go past their ARR incarnations and even the Leveilleur twins are really outdated.
I fully expect the XIV characters to forever be stuck in that stasis too, probably in the SB era. Bringing everyone up to their ShB era looks and abilities is probably way too much to ever expect, but at least we'll probably get Zenos, or Hien, or Yugiri someday.
>Bringing everyone up to their ShB era looks
Considering that Y'shtola's HW outfit is a paid costume, and considering Yuna's X-2 outfit is a paid costume, and considering Edge's TAY outfit is a paid costume, and considering Golbez's TAY outfit is a paid costume, I'm gonna go ahead and assume that if they are ever put in the game that they will be paid costumes
true, they could, but this isn't just a costume change for these characters, most of the time it's an entirely new class they're shifting into with new weapon styles, it's way closer to DRK/PLD Cecil than just a costume swap, and that's still the only character they've done this for
if you wanna get really autistic there's even a narrative hurdle, in that the XIV characters have already regained their memories...but at the time that they did, SB was the most current expansion, they could easily do what they did for VII and have them just pluck newer characters from the current expansions and put them in here for the fish out of water scenario but I doubt they'll ever fully update the cast they already have to meet them, at best have their eventual new weapons reference EW class mechanics like how Yda's FR uses EW Monk rotations
You know, the more discussion I see about FFXIV's state in OO, the more I can understand the devs for keeping them that way (usual other reasons discussed aside).
the development shift in XIV really screwed them, so it's not really anyone's fault aside from SE as a whole, chances are if they could've kept XIV upkept, we might've actually kept the cast far more up to date but since they couldn't get into contact with the dev team for the longest time, the one game in this franchise that's constantly getting updated was left alone for far too long
I don't blame them for not wanting to touch it either, because there's clearly some things that they're not capable of doing, but they're also things that would make all the sense in the world to do, so they're at a bad spot right now, best case scenario they keep giving older characters reworks and throw Zenos in there because he's the only face from NT that hasn't made the jump yet and there's not a single doubt in my mind that they've had a model ready for him for years
Well, there's Yda/Lyse, so I would at least hope they would do Thancred Gunbreaker.
Yda/Lyse is definitely the odd one out, because you could make the technicality that "well akshully they're different characters" but it's basically the only other time they've done this same character/two forms business. And the weird thing is they're even still the same class, just using different parts of it. SB was the hot new thing at the time, and I guess that pushed them to use their current face of it. Technically Y'shtola, Thancred and Alphinaud would need to be updated at the least, but I could see Alphinaud's SGE stuff working as his BT with wing follow-ups. And Urianger not being added at all means they can easily add him without worry.
If they were gonna bring anyone in from future expansions like they've done with VII's complation stuff, I expect G'raha, want Estinien and my long shot pull is Venat. God I want Venat.
Compared to other gacha games, I think it's rather tame with how "convoluted" the progression and enhancement systems are
It's a fricking mess if you use the regular menus that they've just had to keep shoving more and more shit in over the years, but luckily they added a section in the character's status screen that just tells you everything you're missing and gives shortcuts to them all. Plus all characters automatically get set to level 70 when they join so a new player doesn't need to touch any of that shit to hit the ground running. By comparison, I started playing Fate Grand Order recently and I was surprised at how simple and intuitive the UI is in comparison, but also at how the game wants new players to go frick themselves because just leveling up my characters enough to reach second ascension was a total uphill climb.
I'll take it. Apparently I already have blue armor for her too. Not sure when I did that, since I didn't use her all that much when she got her LD.
And since I've got Rosa and I'm focusing blue crystals, I'm not gonna use her all that much now either.
200 tickets for one Lenna FR, not even a dupe Noct FR along the way to replenish my high powerstones. No BT so I guess Lenna gets to continue to live on the bench.
>nothing on the free pulls
>throw tickets, get 3 Noctis FRs (already maxed)
>200 tickets for Lenna's FR
>back down to zero tickets (well, 40)
Ever since the schedule sped up my luck in all categories has been absolute total and complete dogshit
>BT from free multi ticket
>FR after a single 10 ticket pull
Guess I'm using her after all, might as well since I had to skip nearly every one else this past couple of weeks
>Second batch of Mission Quests focuses on weapon type instead of game of origin
Ought to make things less restrictive, assuming one of the Shinryus isn't "Bring 3 Whip Users, Motherfricker."
I'm thinking I might wait until all three sets of this batch are released before doing them. FFIX being used twice last time almost threw me for a loop.
I'll knock them right out. A friend and 3 bronzes can make it through Chaos.
3 free pulls gave nothing but I got Lenna's FR with 30 tickets so I'm good I guess.
Astos did like 90 million with his attack on the last turn of FR time and took the remaining malboro from 28% to dead in one hit. He was definitely the best investment I've ever made.
Can Kelger solo this fight? I didn't get Lenna BT so I didn't invest in her.
Possibly but I don't think so. The boss FR time basically makes them invincible for 20 turns. Also at 69% the boss does a huge split attack that ignores Evade. I think if Kelger took the full damage he'd die. Maybe you could try and cheese it with a Sezter Call immediately before, but it would be tricky.
Found a vid where Kelger carries LD Lenna with help from Cor, so I think I'll try that, thanks.
Though it'll have to be after SE Bridge maintenance which I think starts in 5 minutes and lasts six hours if I understood timezones correctly (which I often don't).
I don't think he can, but if your Lenna has FR FE30 and at least FR Cor with 5/5 Unique Ult. weapon FE30, It's quite easy. Just remove their speed passives and don't let the enemies get to force time.
If you can "solo" (carry) a ticket mission, this guy will have done it. It apparently requires at least D4 to "solo". I don't think Kelger can do a legit solo of this stage. He can live the 69% threshold via Llyud's absurdly busted normal call, but that same threshold attack also applies debuffs, and Kelger cannot both live the attack *and* deal with the debuffs, he must pick one or the other, and yet he cannot. If you have a fully maxed out red crystal room, you might be able to do it with Sylph summon, that one passive that lowers debuff chances, and Llyud call
First multipull ticket got me her BT, 150 tickets got me her FR, generous game!
It can't die before giving me a broken ass Thunder God Cid from Tactics.
It's looking more like GL WotV will EoS before OO does
Ever Crisis will shutdown before OO does, screencap this.
Ever Crisis will last at least until Part 3 comes out. How many years is that. 2? 3? ...4? I love this game but I don't know if it has 3 years left in it
At this point I'm not gonna be betting against OO. It was originally made as a promotional tie-in for a game whose servers shut down like three years ago, but it's still going.
EoS is already confirmed for late December.
I don't get it.
I don't know if I care enough about the Enna Kros/Noel banner to bother with the ticket mission this time. I have Lenna's FR and a bow UW so it shouldn't really be a problem, but I did my first attempt with an unoptimized party and ran out of FRs with 15% left in their life bars. And the whole time I was thinking, "Aranea, Weiss, and Rosa could completely destroy this stage," so I did that instead. Dunno if I feel like trying again just for the sake of getting another chance at two characters I will never use.
You probably want Noel's FR because it pairs well with Dorgann and you can also create an infinite using it at Cor (and/or probably Maria). I still think Enna Kros was overhyped even back when she was deleting Shinryus in 3 turns, so I'm not the guy to ask about her
If you have Lenna's FR the ticket mission should be easy. You got Kelger, right?
I'm just having trouble dealing enough damage, even with Kelger and an outrageous damage dealer like Golbez or Astos. Lenna's completely dead weight here and with their HP gates I don't have room to mess around. Plus, they just murder you after 20 turns so I can't drag out a second Force Time. I can make it work, but I just do not think it's worth it right now. I'm not having fun, especially knowing how effortlessly I can and have got the S rank without Lenna dragging me down.
I don't use cheese strats like Quinamecia or Ydaroth so I'm not using the Cor/Noel infinite. Dorgann pairs well with a lot of characters I already have, Aranea being the biggest argument against investing in Noel even if I get him. Realistically I'm never going to use Noel over Aranea.
I'll probably still end up doing it once I get over my butthurt, but I can't believe how fricking annoying this is.
>I'm just having trouble dealing enough damage, even with Kelger and an outrageous damage dealer like Golbez or Astos. Lenna's completely dead weight
I would not really classify Golbez as an outrageous damage dealer who can be mentioned in the same breath as Astos, but with off turn units, especially ones like Rubicante and Kelger that reduce their own turn rate, you don't use a 3rd character, so it would just be Kelger and Lenna with no 3rd. It's a pretty braindead run if you have Lenna's FR, because Echo only costs 800 enhancement points. Remember to remove everyone's speed passives, especially Lenna's
We might not finish the raid co-op missions for the first time. It's only a couple tickets which is meaningless but still, I think it's proof they should retire this archaic event mode or at least rework the co-op rewards. There's no reason to play the raid more than 5 or so times when that's enough to get all the single player rewards and there's no co-op shop so there's no need to grind it like all other co-ops either. And they still expect people to run the four sub-par bannermates though the fight 30,000 times each?
Yeah, I saw a little while ago that we're probably not going to hit those thresholds and I just cannot give a shit. I used to be one of the ones dragging outdated characters into co-ops, but there's just way too big a gap between the "five stars" and the other characters on the banners these days. It's the devs' fault for expecting anyone to want to drag characters that haven't been touched in two years through a Lufenia alongside Force Echo characters. Even if it is easy to get carried, it's not fun for anyone involved.
It's a little bit funny because Gladio, an actually usable untouched character, got his quest finished. It's just the (almost) literally unsable characters that didn't get theirs completed. There wasn't even a co-op shop, so there's not anything to farm, so there's no reason to be macroing the same stage over and over again with Leon
I tried to get Leon hits for a while and then did a few Leon/Eiko/Sazh solo runs but with GL speedups and weekly crystal bullshit there's just too much other shit to do.
Another week, another 15 minutes of whiteknuckling my yellow crystal team through a 525 million hp boss where a single misstep means reset and barely killing it on the last turn of my second force time.
At least I'm two thirds of the way through this. I hear whales already have access to their first crystal ability, that's quite the gap.
Selh'teus soon™, Yellow Crystal anon
I don't know shit about him but if he's good, I'll give him a go.
>BT effect applies debuff for 8 turns on enemy that poisons them for 1% of their HP every turn
>(this could potentially be just a straight up 16% damage attack to the enemy, but spread out over 16 of their turns)
>BT also gives change HP attack with 11 full aoe hp attacks
>LD call is 10 HP attacks
I think he's just like a really cracked out supportish type character that also does good levels of damage like new support characters tend to do nowadays, especially considering that Tifa and Lightning are ~12 HP attacks single target only. There's also Noel, who will be doing ~13 HP attacks single target, but he has a +50% HP damage cap up FR vs Lightning's +30% HP damage cap up one. And then Cater for off turn. Not a bad upcoming month for Yellow
Nice, I forgot Noel was yellow. I have his BT already but never really invested in him, so I'll be sure to snag his FR and dump some mats into the guy. Thanks for the info on the MMO guy too.
Now I gotta ask why the hell you went with yellow crystals in the first place. It was clearly the worst option when it was added, and I figured that people going with it were holding out for Selh'teus and other characters in the long term like Noel, Cater, and Lunafreya's Echo. Not trying to pick on you, I really want to know what made you pick yellow?
I'm the other guy (not Yellow Crystal anon) and I still think White is worse. It might just be that I don't personally enjoy nearly any of the White characters, but even in JP it's not looking so hot. There's like Arciela and Deuce, that's it. At least Yellow has/had Tifa, Lightning, Balthier (actually really good damage surprisingly) Sherlotta, Quistis, and then coming up Noel, Cater, Selh'teus, and Luna
What does White have? Arciela and Deuce, which GL doesn't have yet. You can put Lenna and Enna on that list too, but I dunno man. It's a short list of pretty mid characters to me. I'm not saying you can't do the fights with them because luckily the game is easy, but White is just a bunch of characters that pretty much all do the same thing at exactly the same power level (mid). I don't even know what could save White in my eyes. They'd have to turn Gau into an even more gigachad version of Rubicante and they'd have to turn Emperor into the new Astos
Because Tifa. I will be doing Blue second because Cyan.
>Because Cyan
Based. FR/BT when?
That and Umaro (and the almost impossible dream of Benjamin) are all I want before EoS.
>(and the almost impossible dream of Benjamin)
I will never stop hoping. I would also take Phoebe
I miss Materia. She is so cute. They need to make her playable.
I always got the feeling Spiritus and Materia would last playable characters released to signify the direness of the situation at the end, but I don't know anymore at this point.
So after clearing the ticket mission and series mission (use V/XV/FFCC only) with Lenna/Kelger/Cor following the vid I linked above, I was looking of a replacement for Cor to do the weapon mission (use bow/sword/dagger only).
Turns out, the best replacement for him is...nothing! Found this amazing vid that was very easy to replicate:
If you have Lenna's FR and a fully built Kelger, this duo will clear the ticket mission, the series mission AND the weapon mission, all in one easy run!
Now I just need to clear the Spiritus with black/white/yellow crystal characters only. Lenna and Astos are obvious picks, I guess I'll use Auron as my third. I saw a clear that used Astos/Auron/Quina but relied on black crystal passives that I don't have.
I may have had to spend 30k EP for this clear but at least it's over. I'm really just burning through my EP as of late, even on a budget. And it's about to get even worse with FE50 coming up, yeesh.
>but you don't need it
Yeah, until I will.
>Leon mission is almost done
>do a couple more runs before event ends
>Raid tab disappeared so now there's no way to get the tickets even if we did complete it
Outstanding.
At least we completed the Eiko one. We only ended up missing out on two tickets.
>>Raid tab disappeared so now there's no way to get the tickets even if we did complete it
Didn't complete it. It looks like every quest that was completed stays for 24 hours
I see, thanks.
how would the crystal colors be ranked overall?
Green > Black > Blue > Yellow > Red > White
Thats what Id rank them, especially right now.
I can only rank them based on what I use more often:
Black = Green > Red > Blue > Yellow > White
Black > Blue > Green > Red > White >Yellow
>Now:
Black = Green = Red > Blue > Yellow > White
>When released
Green >>> Red > Black > Yellow > Blue > White
So I recently got back into to the game after a near 10 month hiatus. I'm slowly catching up on content and currently am focusing on LC/IWills for quick rewards. For refrence I'm only as far as Act3. Chapter10 story wise. I also have 16 IW's to do and 5 LC's. Also I've yet to complete a single six warrior quest or Spiritus summon. Pic related.
Regarding my roster, the only fully built BT/FR units I have are Lightning, Cor, Machina and Tifa. Though recently I managed to snag Jihls kit, along Lenna, Garnet, and Noctis's FR. Currently I'm working towards getting Kelger. Overall my roster feels a bit lacking specifically in the Force Guage charger department. I've been able to get by with Selphie Penelo(No BT/FR) and Yuna w/BT(Is she even a charger?), but I fear at a certain point they are not going to cut it. Already Penelo is starting to feel like dead weight. Literally Cor and Lightning have carried me through the past several Shinryu's I've done.
Anyone have any tips on where should put my focus, or any essential upcoming pulls I should consider?
Honestly, I feel like Lightning + Cor + Garnet will probably be able to clear most fights. But yeah, grab a tank like Kelger. Kelger + Cor can solo a ton of fights. Also maybe consider Noel. Noel + Cor can cheese a lot of fights too via infinite off-turn attacks.
Welcome back, anon. There's a WoI event right now for Leviathan, you might want to check it out.
I can't give roster advice but you might be able to trivialize old Shinryu with an Astos friend (try it, it's absurd). Alternatively you can consider bringing a friend Aerith or Iris for chargers (for the on-going Shinryu the only reward you miss for bringing a friend is a multi on the next banner). Regarding chargers, they typically need to have their Force Enhancements maxed in order to be efficient, so be careful when managing resources.
>Anyone have any tips on where should put my focus
Pull Kelger. He can solo pretty much any fight that does not have guaranteed attacks, and even if they do, as long as it's just some Force Gauge related attacks or a threshold attack, you could bring a Gladio call and immune it. He will be very useful for you, because he can solo most (all?) of the crystal color quests, giving you pretty easy Red room for the foreseeable future
>or any essential upcoming pulls I should consider?
Cater coming up is a gauge charger and she is also an evasion tank like Kelger is, except she has BRV Freeze in her kit too so she can deal with more problems, though Deuce is probably *the* near-future force charger to get. Selh'teus is another good pickup, but is not a gauge charger. For the current needs expressed in your post, I would recommend pulling Kelger and Deuce, and then if you have gems left over you can begin considering the others. Next stream is Sept 21st
Oh, also, you need Echo now. It's a separate branch of the enhancement boards. You only need to put 800 points in to be able to unlock Echo, and you only need an FR to be 1/3 in order to use it twice in a fight. Enhancement Points requirements to max out a character have increased, but if you're only using them to complete the ticket mission, it's basically still just as cheap, and you actually get a pretty significant power boost with just those 800 points so I weirdly think that minimum investment characters are actually a better value now overall... but you do want the FR and the 800 points. Not strictly necessary, but very helpful for completing the ticket missions
Im wondering why the frick they're doing stupid shit like puting HP gates on a 600 million boss.
Its like theyre trying to make people quit the game. It doesnt make it harder, it makes it moronicly tedious.
Spiritus fights are intended to be the harder than Shinryu fights.
We have not had an HP gate in a very long time, and I think that there are not very many more in the future either. I also didn't even realize they had HP gates because I used Kelger
Enna tonight! She's a fave so I'm going for her BT even though I don't need it and don't even know what it does. I only have just barely enough gems to pity a single BT, so I think I'll token hers as I already have her FR. Ah, but I only have enough tokens for one BT...man, I need some luck in the near future if I want anything else.
>and don't even know what it does
It rounds damage up so that if you're doing 101,000 damage, you will actually be doing 200,000 damage. Situationally busted, because it can round (for example) 210% HP damage cap up to effectively 300% HP damage cap up. Also Holy and Dark enchant
For me, I got Noel's BT with tickets sometime during Lufenia, so I'll be using my free pulls on Enna's BT banner to get Noel's FR. I'm not bothered one way or the other about Enna'a BT. I was one of the people looking forward to the Enna Kros combo back in early-mid Shinryu, but I actually had less fun doing that than I did using FE0 Cor and Gladio and/or Minwu. Her role in the party seems to be somewhat different now, but I'm still not too enthused; she just turned out to be not really my taste. I do love me some hanakana though
Can't wait! I'm gonna throw tickets to try and pick up Noel's FR, and I'll just buy Enna's BT if I need to.
Using all the Leviathan tickets on her banner hoping to get Noel's FR and maybe save some BT tokens as well.
Best of luck everyone!
Thanks but fug, I got Noel's FR from the four multi tickets and nothing else. Gonna have to burn all my BT tokens to get Enna's BT.
There is a tiny chance considering pretty much the only time Ben's appeared again is in Theatrhythm and the director of that game is actually OO's director iirc.
Noel or Golbez?
I have both FRs and BTs. I just can't decide which one should I green. All those wasted gems and tickets has to be for something.
If you have Dorgan for break synergy or Iris to hard defuse hp attacks then Noel.
Noel is better
So I could've just stopped at getting Enna's BT from tokens and taken the free rolls, and yet I went for Noel's BT too anyway because if I ever went Yellow Crystal, he felt nice to have in my back pocket. One full BT pity later, and I got it, but I'm down to 230k crystals. Funds looking not so deep, especially since Strago is next and Sehl'theus not long after. I don't NEED to get Strago, but I like him, and I'm going all in for Green Crystal, so I feel like I gotta at least think about it...even if my gems won't be happy.
>I'm going all in for Green Crystal, so I feel like I gotta at least think about it
Bro, Green has Rubicante, Iris, Dorgann, Sephiroth, Raines, Rem, and Ace. Later, Green will have Rinoa, Fujin, Cissnei, Yda, and Rydia. You do not need Strago for Green
Obviously not, I don't have any trouble clearing anything, really, but again, I like him, and from everything I've invested so far he'd be way better for me because of that, so that's still tempting. At this rate I might go into Yellow next because of Sehl'theus, and because my Yellow's been slowly improving over time.
what the frick are these ticket pulls? either A: all my future luck is gone, or B: this is making up for the past few months being nothing but max pity
Did you save any Noel EXs? Now that I'm at like end end endgame, I've found myself blowing tickets on banners just for extra EXs that have really good spheres, and I save every EX I pull. Noel's is really good, so it might have been worth it to keep one or two for your future self
Bros, the normal content is now so easy that the most enjoyment I get out of the game are the Dare to Defy events. I hope they didn't forget about the Crevasse and that we end up getting it this month
I really hope we get Zenos one day because it'll be cool to see him interact with Sephiroth, or we get Emet-Selch and he interacts with Ardyn.
I think if they add more XIV, he'll be the first one we get, since they have all of his NT animations still in the back unused and he's STILL crazy popular even after his sendoff
I wonder why they're waiting so long to add him. Zenos has been around since Stormblood, yet we get Jack and his game came out last year.
Mostly because the XIV team has been crazy busy doing XVI's development for this long and they find it customary to get into contact with the people who have a say over those characters before doing anything with them, you can pinpoint the exact time they stopped having contact with them and it was right about when ShB started development and were only just recently freed if Yda getting her BT/FR was any indication
if it was any other game in the franchise, it'd be whatever, but for it to happen to XIV, a game that's constantly evolving its characters, was disastrous for its character lineup and might not ever fully recover
Well speaking of XVI, how soon do you think we could get Clive?
honestly, not very soon, if I had to guess, even Jack waited a few months until after his game had come out, and with both XIV and Tactics now freed from development hell (lot of the same people), there might be more priority there to make up for lost time than immediately jump into new hotness, especially if they're going to update XVI down the line, which means they'll have later opportunities to strike the XVI iron while it's hot
If they add XVI (of course they will), then we will have more actual irredeemable "villains". What, out of hundreds of characters in game, it only has 15 or less baddies. The story needs more buttholes for it to be more interesting. Or just add Hein and Yunalesca, because they look cool.
Anyone else get this glitch(?) where the background becomes dark for some reason? I actually kinda like it
It means you're going to pull a BT soon. A dupe of one
I don't know if I'm missing something or if it's a glitch, but the Shinryu fight in the latest Crysal Mission, they have the Needle Shower attack which is gravity based so it should never kill. However it always instakilled my Cor and Enna Kros, and they were both Crystal enhanced. Everyone else that wasn't enhanced stayed at 20% HP like normal.
You probably equipped them with the Crystal Passive that increases HP Damage received. If you unequip that passive, they'll survive.
Oh frick, that's true, it must the one passive that grants BRV retain.
Been playing Ever Crisis for a while now and somehow I have the sinking feeling the three stooges from First Soldier will show up eventually here.
And while the feel relatively unique in their movesets, VII is rivalring Type-0 for oversaturating at this point, we don't need more than what we're already expecting (Red XIII, Elena, the Tsviet and possibly Loz and Yazoo).
Forgot Angeal and Genesis too, bit you get my point.
I doubt they'll show up considering how staunch they are on the "no plans for collabs" deal they've got going on.
So where did Enna teleport the gods too? Has JP's story already revealed it?
You will find out in a later chapter
>beat Shinryu fight
>return to event menu to pick the Lufenia
>am now stunlocked by an error code
>every time I restart the game, as soon as I navigate away from the homescreen I get this error
rip
yeah im in the same boat, cant get past the homescreen. its over for me.
I can play the game but I can't check my missions tab to collect my dailies. Trying to do a Batch Download to see if it works
batch download is an infinite loop for me, never loads anything to download
Batch Download completed but it didn't seem to do anything. Everytime I go to the missions tab, I still get a screen saying there's an update and takes me back to the start screen. RIP 300 daily gems
shit that means i cant even get ultima missions or 10 pull tickets anymore if missions is fricked
My game was hanging at the startup screen, but there turned out to be a new version on the Play Store. After I downloaded it the game started running fine again. My guess is that the game updated after the Bridge maintenance but they forgot to make you download it or something. And the old version would just work until it didn't anymore.
i downloaded and installed that update but im still stuck
>but there turned out to be a new version on the Play Store
There was not a new version on the play store for me
The "update found" problem was fixed and they had the decency to let me collect yesterday's dailies that I couldn't pick up.
Glad I slept through that technical issue last night.
I completely forgot that Locke's a blue crystal. I wasn't going to invest in him before, but I guess I may as well.
>Previous Raid was the first time in the game's history that we didn't clear all of the character missions
>Current Raid removed character missions entirely
Glad they realized that no one's going to want to use fricking Rude in this fight.
Still not finished with Enna's coop since it has expensive BT mats but no Shinryu stage.
Every co-op shop should have a Shinryu. It takes one 3x book and the like 1 or 2 more fights to buy everything out. I thought it was going to be shit at first, but that might be the best change they've made in Shinryu
The gap between Lufenia and Shinryu is just too big at this point. Lufenia co-ops aren't fun for anyone since all you do is spam Echoes and watch the fight die in two hits, but Shinryu co-ops require too much coordination so nobody bothers and just uses skip tickets. Co-op has always been the weakest part of this game, but the last time it was this bad was when we were deep into the Lufenia era but co-op only went up to CHAOS, with an absurd fricking grind to clear out the shop.
For the first time in who knows how long, I finally got a BT I actually wanted from a free multi ticket! VI is my favorite FF, so I've collected every VI weapon since launch. Kind of paid for my good luck almost immediately as it took 610 tickets to get one copy of Locke's FR right after getting this BT. Time to see if I still have enough resources to build these two guys up. No idea if Strago is good again, but I've had his armor blue ever since it was possible and Locke was a green in release.
>Inflict Break with Force Ability
Okay then.
Strago's still Strago. He's really good, but released in a crowded market where he's going to get overlooked by characters like Astos, Enna Kros, and the upcoming Deuce. He also needs some babysitting to reach his full potential since his EX is the only button you ever want him to be hitting, even over his Echo. I've been on team Blue Strago for ages, but I don't feel like going in on him this time.
Thanks and yeah, that triple cast is lookin' sweet but managing to fit things nicely into his 6 turns of BT could be a bit of a headache.
How many months has it been since we got a 3 enemy fight? I legit can't remember the last one. I have the WoFF twins green'd as well, I really wanna unleash them and Strago on a three enemy fight for banana damage.
Same. Hers and Dorgann's are the only ones I wanted out of the ones I had to skip. Another sacrifice of the global shuffle.
Speaking of global, we have a weird special stream tomorrow where surprises will be revealed, including why the stream isn't at the usual time of the last Monday of the month. Place your bets for what will be revealed!
I feel you on that.
I was thinking about this too, and I think the Shantotto IW is the last time we had a fight with three targets. It's at the point where I check out whenever I hear someone's good against three enemies due to how rare those fights are. Even Strago's BT debut only has two enemies.
>Place your bets for what will be revealed!
Most likely XI crystal angle boi chapter deploying in early October.
And possibly EoS by the end of the year.
>Place your bets for what will be revealed!
I think it's just gonna be FE50 and Selh'teus. Nothing special. My only question is what they're going to do with Cater, FuSoYa, and Deuce. Those banners came before Selh'teus, and thus before FE50. These characters do all have FE50 now in JP, so I wonder whether GL is going to get these particular FE50s early, or how they're going to set up the Selh'teus banner. It would be weird to me if they did the Cater, FuSoYa, and Deuce banners first, then Selh'teus onward with FE50, considering the stream schedule. Like, if that's how they're gonna divvy it up, they could have just done Cater, FuSoYa, and Deuce during last stream and began October with Selh'teus, so due to the setup I'm inclined to believe we're getting Cater, FuSoYa, and Deuce with early FE50, but otherwise no surprises other than either a Crevasse or Dare to Defy event
There is also the first memorial quest to consider, but that might be a November thing
Josh outright stated that the schedule shakeups are going to get even more extreme from here on out, so giving those three early FE50 doesn't seem to be that big a deal given the possibility of having FR/BTs moved all over the place.
>There is also the first memorial quest to consider, but that might be a November thing
Nani?
https://dissidiacompendium.com/events/2530
With Irvine comes the first Memorial Quest. I think it's kinda like the replacement for Dimension's End and/or Six-Warrior quests. The first one is Griever. It has like 750mil combined HP and is a single target fight that you can use 2 parties to beat. Almost like a boss rush stage but it's just one boss
>Six-Warrior quests
These were the only fun part of Shinryu. I assume there are no more windfalls of providence cores.
Oh shit, I completely forgot about the Boss Rushes. Those were great. Wonder why they stopped doing them?
>and/or Six-Warrior quests.
Please no. Like the other Anon said, that was one of the few fun game modes plus I really depend on those 100 providence cores they each give.
>Oct 11th (Six-Warrior Quest Area 8)
2 Free multi
Cater FRBT FE50
Edgar FRBT FE50
(Galuf, Lyse, Edward, Zell, also FE50)
>Oct 16th (Mystery Intersecting Wills) Kadaj
2 free multis
-Mystery homies-
for calendar reference
>Oct 20th (Mystery Spiritus) Alexander with Deuce
2 free multie
-Mystery homies-
2 more free multis next stream on some thing he can't talk about yet
DONT GET YOUR HOPES UP, JUST AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF AN ANNOUNCEMENT
something cool will be announced on the official Twitter on Sept 28th @ 2 UTC
I think he said this is like 7pm on Sept 27th Pacific time? So normal content drop time for the announcement
Something that Josh is excited for, it's a good thing! That's all he's allowed to say
Next stream Oct 23rd
Watch the official twitter!
His AoE damage is high. With his BT aura instead of duplicating his skills he triples his skills. So that's 9 AoE HP dumps from his S1/S2 and 12 AoE HP dumps from his EX and LD. Against 3 enemies he does the most damage in the game (especially if you're running Enna Call or have the EX recharge Crystal passive and get lucky EX resets), and his damage is solid against 2 enemies. But for the most part he just does damage and his BT aura isn't all that great so you wouldn't use him in the party unless he was going to be your primary damage dealer.
Baetrix be protectin'
Man, I regret missing Beatrix's BT, but not enough to go back and token it now.
Prior to the speed up, I used to get the FR from the free pulls nearly 100% of the time. This Locke FR is the first time this has happened to me in quite some time. It might even be the only time it has happened since the schedule speed up
I have a feel that we're getting a GL first. New character or new weapon for an old one?
Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s a simultaneous release of Clive on both servers.
doing this again with Strago once I know what the frick is going on for next month.
This is a fun unga bunga team. Probably not optimized but it was a blast obliterating the latest boss. Time to go do my weekly crystal quest
>field of fangs
>again
>4 out of the last 5 have just been alternating the two 525 million hp bosses
It's a good thing yellow specializes in ST damage, but giving bosses a 1.5x hp multiplier was such a dumb idea.
Stream's up
>Sep 25th
FE50
>also Sep 25th
Prolonged HP Damage Bonus
(Gauge Retain)
>Sep 26th - Oct 10th
Ally Enhancement Support Campaign
>Oct 2
>Oct 6
Free multi draws
>Sep 26th
Selh'teus FRBT FE50
Lann and Reynn FRBT FE50
(Guy, Shelke, CoD, Neon also FE50)
>Josh sperging about XI
No complaints form me
>Sep 29th
Fujin FRBT FE50
Zidane FRBT FE50
(Raines, Cinque, Lion, Sherlotta also FE50)
>whole month of October
Portal App thing
>Oct 2 (this is one of the free multis)
Rinoa and Aranea FRBT FE50 (Rinoa rework available on Fujin banner actually)
>Oct 6th (FuSoYa Lost Chapter)
FuSoYa FRBT FE50
Ciaran FRBT FE50
(Seifer, Kimahri, Leila, King also FE50)
(Josh will talk about the thing he was talking about last stream near the end of this stream. It apparently wasn't the FE50)
>(Josh will talk about the thing he was talking about last stream near the end of this stream. It apparently wasn't the FE50)
Hype!
>Oct 11th - 31st (Autumn Festival)
100 Daily poly sparkles (2k total!)
8 free first multies
Cactuar and cycle shit
>2 additional free multies
Oct 13th
Oct 28th
>Costume bundle stuff
2 Ally costume tokens
can exchange tokens for any costume released before Aug 16th, 2023
(seems like a good paypiggy bundle)
>tfw you own every costume already
>28th announcement on the official dffoo twitter
>no one guessed it
What were people saying?
He probably said that to not spoil it
He was telling the truth, it's not the first time he drops hints. Any way to check the stream chat for that time?
>Any way to check the stream chat for that time?
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1931564880?t=0h44m58s
You can read the chat on the side
Sweet, thanks. I guess it'll be Red XIII.
>PC release
>server merge
>Sonic collab
>Koge for DFFOO (his cat)
>Rikku
>FF16!?! / Clive
>EoS???
>Delita
>Persona
>Zenos
>Ifalna
>DFFOO Record Keeper
>leaving twitter because Elon Musk
>DFFOO 2
Those were things in the chat at the time that he said no one has guessed it
Good guess. That is indeed something that no one on stream guessed
>DFFOO secret announcement on my birthday
Hopefully it's kino
Monkey's paw, it's Aki Ross.
I honestly doubt it will be anything major, dunno what it could be, but I don't have much reason to expect a significant surprise over it.
Also, aside note, but I honestly wonder why they keep doing the "mystery" IW/Spiritus thing, literally every single time players have guessed it correctly and planned accordingly.
I hope for either Zeid or Cyan's BT/FR
PC offline version would be kino to me, but I'm open to anything.
After looking at what they're saying on plebbit, there is apparently a DQ game coming out that same day, so it's probably a return of the co-op stickers or something
>Minwu Echo and FE50
>Holy Anchor trap is 2 HP attacks (up from 1)
>Sublime Soul overhead trap looks like 6 HP attacks (up from 3)
Huge. Not only is he another Aerith, but his traps do literally double the HP attacks now. Leon looking pretty nice too