Dissidia: Final Fantasy Opera Omnia

Skip everything until Iroha FR
Dump everything into Iroha FR
Fail to get Iroha FR
Uninstall and quit for another 4 years

Kamlanaut
Lunafreya
Cloud of Darkness
Cor
Eald'Narche BT+ realization.
Faris
Hope
Iroha
Beatrix
Minwu
Dorgaan
Enna Kros
Lilisette
Jack motherfricking Garland

The "short list" for personal favorites that I 'need' to build: Terra (FR), Tifa (BT and FR), Faris (FR), Celes (BT and FR), and Yuna (FR).
The "long list" includes either characters I have built but are getting an FR and/or BT, characters that have a capability I want in my roster, or just characters I like but haven't picked up yet. Tidus (FR), Fujin (FR), Ultimecia, Reno (FR), Setzer, Cor (FR), Gau, Deuce, Golbez, Lilisette (FR) Seymour (FR and BT), Maria (FR), Beatrix (FR), Rydia (FR), Ashe (FR and BT), Sice (FR), and Jessie (FR). I'm not intending on getting EVERYTHING on this list, necessarily, since some of these are frankly redundant with each other, but it's more of a wish list than a 'must have' list.

It will be difficult but it's possible.

I almost did that.

Well, shit. I actually ended up exchanging all of my power stones by accident.
I'll try getting support on my case, but since I haven't dropped money into the game, I don't expect getting those stones back.
I hope I can actually get my stones back...

Same lmao
Why the frick is the option in the refine page instead of a store like the ultima nuggets god damn it

Apparently, Ramza, probably because I put Porom's full sphere on him to be able to tick the orb in one of the DETs

would he be worth going over tidus if im already planning on pulling for kam and sherlotte?
I'm moronic and hate X so really dont want tidus

I'm pulling Tidus even though I hate X because he will make DET10 easier. I have no idea about Machina but if he's busted at c80 even in the c90 era, then he'll probably still be busted at c90 even before he gets his FR (which I've heard is busted)

How fricked am I if I havent played for 3 months with this new weapon tier?

It depends on your resources more than anything else imo. But there will be a new player campaign launching tonight with the new banners probably. Depending on the quantity of the rewards for brand new accounts are, even I might start over if they just hand out like a full UW or hundreds of thousands of Enhancement Points

tidus unfortunately
i don't want to use him anymore he looks so goddamn gaudy holy shit can't wait for the next powercreep

High powerstones for 300. Then you have 200 left so probably two regular powerstones.

Now is a perfect time to begin. They just made a shit ton of QoL changes for newbies, including catapulting all summon levels to 20 and having all characters be at Crystal level 70 and regular level 70 after you complete chapter 1

They also just started a noob campaign that gives some nice rewards, though no one knows the quantity of the rewards yet. The noob boards are already really generous, so it's icing on top of icing on top of cake with a layer of icing on the bottom too

Use Penelo

I think you're supposed to get the High Power Stones.

I've seen people saying that the 4 high powerstones are better than the FR dupe. Don't know why. Maybe because kain's FR kind of sucks so you could use those high powerstones on a better one?

Kain job is to use hit BT+ finisher and then stay in the air and throw down spears after every action. He's still one of the best units in JP, and they're 6+ months ahead of us. His burst probably is not worth it if you are not going to green him, but he is worth greening

You seriously don't have Kurasame's call, my friend?

This is a newbie event anon, you don't need to farm all that T7 if you already have enough to max a couple of characters right out of the gate.
Good opportunity to use 3x books if you have some laying around.

Don't fall for the FR trap. It's only really a button if you use Kain's Burst Phase, which you probably aren't doing

If you ask me, the game is saying "psst... take this" and it want you to green and blue Kain and then never look back (assuming you already have LD)

Yes. Consider FRs to be the new EX for that purpose

Kain is like the single best investment you can possibly make for Shinryu

Lenna's base call applies 4 turns of "only" 20% HP regen, so you'll be missing 10% from the boss' sap.
Yeah, I really don't like that mechanic either.

Bro, your force enhanced Penelo?

Just kidding, here: https://www.dissidia.dev/call?en&q=buff_eff:7&s=7&d

Kamlanaut is the first temporary Shinryu, followed by Tidus. The rest are permanent with like 3 tickets at stake. 13 tickets absolute tops if you use the featured character and no friend.

I'm not feeling this difficulty either but I did get shit down to 30 percent until they suddenly killed me on the second enemy force. That's with no Force passives and a friend Kain and just one Burst+. When the decision paralysis wears off we'll all be in good shape.

In the mean time if you're really desperate for 13 tickets and have 4 hours of your life to waste there is Ydaroth.

I love that JP thinks my wife is the best

I don't know. It looks like the whole top tierlist got shaken up a bit. Obviously it's something to do with force echo, though I'm not sure exactly what. Rydia enchants that party for water, makes the enemy auto weak to water damage, and her force time is already pretty busted as long as you let the enemy take turns but on top of that her FR has 50% hp damage cap up when dealing weakness damage. So now every single person who gets force boards will be able to increase the gauge by a guaranteed free 40% (2 fr abilities) and those FR abilities will be hitting with an extra 50% hp damage cap up. Or maybe it could just be that Rydia's own FR attack is good for Terra/Garnet right now, because it hits Terra's 20% of magic and also her 40% for instant turn rate, so Rydia boosts Terra's FR gauge by 120% for free, and then Garnet's FR is water damage which Rydia does so it's a free +60% to Garnet's FR

Wish we knew exactly, but either way I I'm down with the Rydia timeline because I was going to use her anyway. Minwu moved up a bit as well and he's another one I was just going to pick up regardless

Letting enemies get turns and countering them to death is now a viable strat, quite an effective one too since your force turns don't decrease on enemy turns.

They may be overrating it a bit because as far as current JP wombo combos it's longer, boringer and less effective than, let's say, HopeKros or DKC/Rinoa. Also much like launch comps were in the past it's a kind of playstyle the devs can kill in a moment's notice just by adding more guaranteed hits or nasty attacks into the bosses' repertoire.

Every character in the game is always available for free. You don't gacha characters in this game, you gacha their weapons. You basically need every single one of a character's weapons in order to use them, and then after you pull each individual weapon, you need to max them all out as well. You don't always need the BT weapon, but you will absolutely require the 15/35/EX/LD, and starting just recently you will also want the FR weapon. The FR weapon you only need to max out if you are using that character's Force Time ability, but you still want to have it to equip (instead of the EX) for characters that you do not have the BT for

BTs are not always required, but generally you want that part of the character's kit as well. Kain, for example, you will want his BT+ (the green version, finisher ability only) because his BT effect is good and he can keep it up all battle, but you will probably be better off using someone else's actual Burst phase. You still want his 15/35/EX and LD all maxed out. His FR specifically you can skip out on maxing, but it still would be better that you have it rather than not have it

Cloud and Squall are both pretty bad. Cloud has good utility, but the start dash banner is mostly a noob trap. Kain is the prize for this round of banners, and you want his BT+. Get Auron (15/35/EX/LD) when he releases tonight. The only part of a character's kit that you generally *need* to pull is the LD. As a noob you get a shit ton of Power Tokens (to buy the 15/35) and you get a decent amount of EX tokens to buy the EX. You still would rather pull the EX than not pull it, but worst case scenario you can buy it

>What's the chase item/upgrade for most players once you get out of the early game?
Uhh... you just get all of a character's kit while they're on banner. That's it. Beat the event fights, then go back and work your way through permanent content

>Is pulling the highest quality weapons the endgame for most of this in terms of really upgrading your characters?
Yes. Ultima weapons are the highest, but they take ages to build, even if you do pay for the premium pass. However, you don't want to dump the resources into limit breaking and enhancing everything you get. Some characters are far more useful than others, so you want to pick and choose who to properly invest in, get an idea of whose actually good for you in the long term, especially when it comes to limit breaking an BT or FR.
Same goes for when you get a characters High Armor from the exchange shop. You want to go back and do all those old Lufenia challenges and get those tokens for it, but limit breaking them to blue is another pick and choose.
Just keep building up your roster as you plan to pull for notable characters, you'll have a truck load of gems to burn through, but dont just throw them out on everything. Dont expect to jump into Shinryu difficulty for awhile, take on Lufenia, try Luf+ once you build up the roster with newer banners.

Wait for all the free pulls in a BT cycle to pull on a BT or to token it.

I want to know this too.
Krile's cute and she's a nice charger, but I think the best ones are Luna (august) and Selphie (september).

You think someone would just go and lie on the internet? Preposterous.

I remember back in the day I was doing some Chaos stage when they were new. Spent like 30 minutes getting the boss down to 15%, brought in my friend unit to blow shit up... no fricking skills equipped. He had his EX+ weapon equipped and all summon boards done and everything looked legit, but he'd unequipped all of the characters skills. Frick I was so pissed off that after I died I went through my friend list until I found that person and removed from. And you know what? I'm still mad.

Galuf works better in Krile's event and I suspect that Auron works better in Kain's.

I got Braska's FR and Jecht's BT on the same free pull, so I figured "why not" and spent ~150 tickets on getting the rest of both of their kits. I'll probably get around to doing their board grinding sometime this weekend; even if I may not use them all that frequently, having more characters is better than less.

MAAAYBE if you're using the call to battery and need Encouragement armor. Otherwise not really unless you need the cp.

It's an issue if you want 400 gems. But for the permanent BT+ mats you can come back later.

Do you have Selphie or Raines Call, and do you have Kurasame Call and an off-turn damage dealer (Kain, Freya or Cissnei)? If so, yeah, Kam will make it a piece of cake.

Could it be done with Kain Ignis Galuf you think?
I was trying WoL instead of Galuf but God the Lock and delay run his shield out so fast... And I do t have braska because I'm skippin

I'm not even sure if we'll even get one considering we're having the comeback of Cor around that time.

Anyone from Tactics like Delita, Mustadio or Gaffgarrion is fine by me in case.

Hopefully either someone from XI, IX or Tactics

We did get Balthier and Vincent's LDs as global firsts though, so who knows. Between Gabranth and Sherlotta it's a bit tight to expect something like Balthier's BT.

>did the last 6 man using only 3 LD only characters and no calls
>had fun doing it
>probably not even going to attempt to do this 6 man until DET10 is out

Encouragement:
>2 C slots (4 units, 8 total)
Sherlotta, Rosa, Lenna, Yuna
>1 C slot (10 units, 10 total)
Gladio, Alphi, Porom, Agrias, Cait Sith, Selphie, Lilisette, Serah, Snow, Braska
>zero C slots
Iroha, Edward, Beatrix, Quistis, Layle, Galuf, WoL

~20 is still accurate, but if anyone wanted a breakdown of Encouragement's I'm going to make like 60 probably because I'm moronic and still scarred from Laguna RFs

They're both homosexuals that I want nothing to do with, but Tidus because DE:T10. Or at least I will be getting his kit. I might not max out any FR until DE:T10 is actually here, and I'll try to use just Sherlotta but that might not work

Frick Shinryu, honestly. Can you imagine if Lufenia+ absolutely required you to have a BT+? But you stick a meter on the screen and suddenly everyone is soifacing about muh FRs

Waiting on both in case the GLEX memer is right.

Just Kam until Ursula.

Metachads pls respond.

Hello, yes, I'm the person who originally posted that video here

LDs are still absolutely nothing like FRs

prishe bt total dmg?

Yes, it's a common strat actually.

Tidus is a blue crystal, a turn hogger, and applies debuffs
DET10 right gate is blue and requires debuffs
DET10 Reckoning, the boss turn warps unless he is stacked with debuffs
Tidus will also have an FR. I will be going for Tidus

Every FR has different ways to increase the bonus, you have to read them. You can use this site and look at a units infograph to see how their FR increases the bonus.
For example, Kains FR increases when any range attack hits the enemy, or when someone launches. Kam’s FR increases when someone does Ice damage, or when someone attacks a paralyzed enemy. His is extremely exploitable and can get ridiculous.
>https://www.tonberrytroupe.com/

In addition to what

Every FR has different ways to increase the bonus, you have to read them. You can use this site and look at a units infograph to see how their FR increases the bonus.
For example, Kains FR increases when any range attack hits the enemy, or when someone launches. Kam’s FR increases when someone does Ice damage, or when someone attacks a paralyzed enemy. His is extremely exploitable and can get ridiculous.
>https://www.tonberrytroupe.com/

and

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There's also this catalog for all currently released FRs, very handy to keep this one in mind
https://www.dff.ooo/fr?en&v=force-time&s=11&o=a

said, keep in mind that the rate at which FR bonus gauge goes up is partially improved by doing the FR Enhancements for your current party members, so if you're not increasing the gauge as fast as it seems like you should be, make sure everyone's got their FR Enhancements upgraded.

With how fricking powerful the new enemies are, you need all the help the game can give to you.
It only cuts you some minutes of grinding the cycle quests, anyway.

iris/neon, kyrie and yuffie is the only trinity i believe in

>costs to spark weapons
What does that even mean. I'm not actually a gacha gay, but my understanding was that "spark" was what genshit calls "pull"

The pull cost is not decreased, the pity cost is decreased. The pity cost will be decreased 8 months from now, because there will be a brand new BT and FR on every single banner, and they're lowering the banners to 4 per month instead of 6. In response, it will be cheaper to pity BTs and FRs (and everything) by 5 multi pulls. Instead of needing to do 25 multis to pity a BT, you will only need to do 20

I love how doomers are jumping on this and claiming the game is dying when we recently had celebrations for a download milestone.
Like i said in a past thread, it's safe we're gonna get the entirety of Act 4 at least.

If you have Selphie, an ice enchanter, and optionally Wakka then you can roll for Kamlanaut to carry you. Otherwise there's Tidus soon. No Kain and no Garnet is going to be a real b***h though.

yeah for real, i'm trying to find something comparable but there isn't much
there's another eden but the exploration makes it a slog and at that point i'd play an actual rpg
romancing saga global is still at 500k downloads after 2 years so i don't think they'll keep the servers running for much longer

Big same, such a shame, it used to be a good game

I hope Ever Crisis releases sooner rather than later. There's that Bravely Default gacha, but that's probably gonna end up being a snoozefest like Octopath, it'll just have more coom based art. I think trying to complete solo of DET tiers will still be kinda fun. As long as I still have double gates instead of single gates, I have a reason to play, but that is literally the only thing keeping me going right now

I think it would have been much more fun if they added the same gauge, but the condition was to tick up the Lufenia orb. Maybe something like each time the Lufenia orb decreases, their gauge goes up, and each time the orb increases your gauge goes up, possibly with some "leeching" of gauge each time. It'd function more like the tug of war that I feel it is intended to be, instead of the "spam the same 1 move 5 times in a row to charge the gauge" that it ends up being in practice. Hopefully it becomes more enjoyable with more characters, but I feel like there will eventually be a point where every fight is literally exactly the same unless you purposely choose a different team (not demanded by the fight), but you could already do that in garbage time and people seemed to hate it so I just don't understand. Currently, I just can't wrap my head around the "garbage time bad, shinryu good" mentality

Call partner probably got damaged when he changed phase. Had the same thing happen to me when I did enough damage for him to trigger Jecht Bomber while my partner was out.

You can build whatever and get by fine in anything that isn't Shinryu difficulty and Lufenias that have very specific orb counters. But Kamlanaut, Tidus, Machina, Kain are ridiculous for DPS. Good supports at the moment would be Penelo, Cecil, Ignis. You can read posts in the thread for an idea of how to handle your pulls.

ignis until sherlotta next month

400 gems, 3 tickets, and 10 tickets if you use Kam (+ 20 more tickets if you're a premium paypiggy)

ARE YOU FRICKING KIDDING ME-

Good enough to slot into a DE clear, but not really good enough that you'd be using him in a month or two.

His BT is kinda what makes him a great damage dealer. With his BT Aura up he does two 'Shoot' attack after a move, which is where a great deal of his damage is.

All Shinryu have those rewards. This is just the first temporary Shinryu where those rewards are missable.

Have you been using Desch himself? I did it with his stance switching and the enemies barely did shit.

>Battery
Sherlotta
>Counter / Enemy Turns
Reno
>Support / Shenanigans
Lunafreya
>Tank
Gladio
>Off turn / Follow up
Cor
>Single Target DPS
Tifa
>Magic DPS
Rinoa
>Off turn / Support
Minwu
>Support / Shenanigans
Hope
>BTFR Tank / Solo
Celes
>Off turn / Rebreak
Dorgan
>BTFR Launch
Raines
>Nuke the boss in 3 turns
Enna Kros
>Support with Encouragement armor and huge BT finisher nuke
Yuna

In that order. To answer your question, though, Tifa or Rinoa in October

Enna Kros/Hope/Luna(Sherlotta) after that to just blow the boss up if they don't punish you for it, and that's the rest of everything for the whole year

been doing the same, now i'm stuck with a gaudy jock like tidus as my main (and only) dps, shit's even less fun like this

If you're f2p, that's a lot of resources just to get 1 High Power Stone, a couple tickets, and 400 gems, because those are the only missable rewards so far. You will definitely be replacing Ignis/Penelo as soon as Sherlotta/Luna get here, and both of those want Greens as well

If you're an oldgay or a paypig just do what you want

Doable with only Cecil BT or did you have to green him?

>100 turns
The game has become a job at this point

You should have switched to gems.

This is what call backwards luck.
I got nearly everything from Cissnei's debut banner early on with gems(Her LD, Zack's BT) but I had to pity her fricking EX.

https://ffootip.com/forecast

You can safely sell 15/35 and LD weapons after you've max limit broke and leveled them. You can sell the maxed out EX+ if the character has a BT or FR. You can sell a maxed out FR if the character has a BT.

It's not that bad to catch up really, but the shit part is that the newest weapons are just resource sinks to try to get you to spend all your shit and buy the mogpass

She's cute and c90 seems good for her. Not sure about her FR except that she likes to eat through hers and anyone else's. FR animation is a bit unimpressive compared to Gabranth/Tidus/Kain

Congrats! I ended up using Braska there but it's nice to know I can swap him out for another stage later if I need to.

Do you think you will be switching to Iroha BT + some other XI character when she comes around? The Prishe saga is growing on me

I kinda hope it's actually Ardyn

>use gauge charger (usually a party battery)
>get an extra +45% because it fulfills Ursula's FR
Same thing happens with Hope later, except his is +123%

Is her FR worth it? I was saving for Luna personally, but since Terra is time travelling, im guessing she would have a better powercreep.

I got two copies of Terra's FR in ~250 tickets, and I still have a mailbox with ~180 from Divine Odin. I'm going to hold onto said tickets for an attempt at Fujin, and will see where I go from there next month.
Since Terra time-traveled, the only other FR I had lined up to pursue was Cor. I don't know if this means they're adding a new FR to September in her place, or something else, or nothing else. I was also thinking of picking up Ultimecia, since her C90 happens sometime in September, but it depends on what I can get going with Cor, since he's going to be strong in combination with both Terra and Tifa, who's a non-negotiable pickup in October.

>Glint
Meant the red comet shop

I've been doing them solo and only grabbing what I need. Can't be arsed to deal with it anymore.

I'm thinking of going for Ultimecia, and if I get lucky on the pulls I'll consider getting Lunafreya too since she'd be a good part of a Celes-centric team, but I'm not going to commit to anything else major until I have Cor next month and Tifa the month after. I don't have a strong urge to 'complete' my collection if they're going to make maxing out each character require so many resources, but I do want to build a good team around Tifa and coast on her as much as possible.
I wouldn't say I'm burned out of the game, since I don't play it as my only game or expect it to fulfill all my desires or something. But I will say that the limits on F2P resources definitely discourages me from trying a wide variety of characters. If I wasn't already committed to basically just my favorites and a handful of others that synergize with those favorites, I certainly have to be now.

Gonna pity her FR and BT on that banner. Honestly I don't really care all that much about, but I want to use her LD Call to blow up enemies with Enna Kros later on. And I might as well get her full kit while I'm at it because of how meta she is. I'll just get everything on the first banner since I don't plan to pull for anyone else during her cycle. Iroha will be an easy skip since she comes back only 4 months later with her BT. Sabin is pretty cool and the fact that your party gets ignore enemy defense during FR time is really strong, but it also requires both Wind and Holy enchantment and it's too tough to try and juggle two enchants on your team. And he doesn't have a BT (yet) so he can't turn hog with a BT phase to push up the gauge.

I'm skipping her since everyone's gonna set her as support.
I already have maxed Kam and Kain.

Im really low on black crystals. Luckily im good on everything else.

Only Caius's skills trigger the break unless you mean the bonus brv. Doom may prop it up unless it says Own Turn.

>66 turns with a support
Redditard moment