>DLC is 60gb worth of assets
>original game is 60gb
>Miyazaki says it doesn't take place in the future or the past
It's just fricking dark world from Zelda, or the difference between BOTW and TOTK. Same overall map, but different dungeons and enemies. It's so fricking obvious.
dark world is kino so that'd be cool
Ironically this mere dlc has more new content than totk
60 gb is game+dlc, while game itself is 48 gb so dlc is 12gb
>$40 for a fricking dlc
Is this a joke or what? Only Monster hunter dlcs deserves that much
Expansion, not DLC.
Even back in the days of Diablo 2, expansions cost as much as the base game.
You can blame Todd Howard for popularizing DLC as either trash like horse armor or 2-3 hour bonus contents. I bet there hasn't been a real expansion-sized DLC in a long time.
Phantom Liberty was expansion-sized
$40 for 100+ hours of gameplay
are you a fricking poor? go play free mobile games and watch adverts
>100+ hours of gameplay
>90 of those hours is filler dogshit that everybody who replays the game runs past
hmm yes I replay 100% of every single game i ever replay yes
>100+
>only 10 hours of unique content
dimwit
That seems unlikely with how long they worked on it
I rather play 4hr game with actual unique content instead of copy paste same enemy and map 100times
dont respond to bait
Woman be like "NOOO STOP PUTTING BIKINI ARMOR IN GAMES WOMEN WOULDN'T WEAR THAT!"
And then they dress like this
>I only suck daddy Crapcom's turds
have a nice day Black person
Make an AC6 DLC and I'll pay $40 you asiatic frick, at least that game had some effort put into it despite being obviously low-budget for AAA.
>Make an AC6 DLC and I'll pay $40 you asiatic frick
Monster Hunter doesn't have a single expansion or DLC that compares to Bloodborne DLC
Alatreon alone mogs all fromsoft DLC bosses, let alone Fatty. I'm a big rollslop enjoyer but it just doesn't stand up to it.
>i've never played sekiro but i'm going to comment anyway!
its a reddit frog poster
I don't know, for me everything is always free
I get VIP prices somehow
It's 40 because it's two 20 dollar DLCs that they decided to merge together as was said in interviews
Miyazaki said he isn't sure they're dong with the DLC either, they might do another one for Elden Ring in the future but he's not certain.
>That pic
No, No, No, don't do this to me.
Unless they fix post-Leyndell in the base game I'm not buying this shit. I'd pay $40 to have the game we got unfricked and have a bit more added to Liurnia and Caelid, but I'm not paying $40 for added content to a game that was half-assed in the first place.
We're never going to get that. Look at the praise this game gets. The vast majority of people are moronic. Most of them can't even give a good reason as to why they like Elden Ring, they only like it because they're supposed to like it.
This game taught fromsoft that people don't actually want games that are high quality throughout the entire experience. Their moron brains just hear "100 hours of content" as if that's all that matters. Just throw in 50 copy pasted filler dungeons and it'll make people happy.
Yeah I know, but a man can dream.
The day this fricking industry crashes will be a great day for vidya. We've needed a normalgay cleansing for a decade at this point.
But anon, Limgrave is gonna be purple this time! And they actually put shit in it!! :O
This is my biggest disappointment. I was hoping for base game to be affected in some way by the dlc area but it's just another lazy DURR YOU TELEPORT TO NEW AREA deal they've done in every other dlc. Fromsoft are the biggest hacks in existence.
>Fromsoft are the biggest hacks in existence.
I'm curious. What's a good game company to you? If From is the worst, surely you can name 5 or so better ones, right?
From is the only respectable AAA studio at the moment. Maybe Nintendo if you like babby games.
>Square
fallen off
>Valve
doesn't make games
>Capcom
turbo-israelite monetization
>Ubisoft
like crapcom but with even worse games
>Blizzard
lol. Do I even need to explain myself?
>Naughty Dog
Woke garbage re-releases ad infinitum.
>Bethesda
Last good game was Skyrim, over a decade ago
>EA
rated one of the worst companies of all time, many years in a row.
>tencent
GACHA GACHA BOOBA GACHA GACHA ANIME GACHA
I'm sick of you gays. Haligtree and Farum Azula were some of the best areas in the game. They weren't open world slop
>linear corridors with bad geometry (yet again)
They are complete trash like the rest of the levels but Stormveil.
>Haligtree and Farum Azula were some of the best areas in the game
Visually sure, but gameplay-wise? You must be smoking rocks son.
this doesn't include the blue flower area nor the underground caves we saw in the trailer.
Michael Zaki said the game was "bigger" than limgrave, and on its own that would be fine with me, but I suspect it's bigger. This is the same guy who said Elden ring was 30 hours long, and the game was "a bit bigger" than Limgrave and Caelid.
where swamp?
"the moon" isn´t the moon, I hope it´s a shitpost because in all instances it´s the fricking veil coming from the halig(?)tree.
Besides, if messmer is the unwanted child of Marika (see impalers catacombs) i wonder whom Marika fricked? One of their own children? A dragon?MarikaXMiquella /ss/ incoming
>impalers catacombs
oh shit is that the imp catacombs
that boss creeps the shit out of me
I suspect Messmer is the result of self fricking. The red hair means he has to have Radagon lineage, most likely anyway. And the mention of Marika obviously makes her the mother.
>I suspect Messmer is the result of self fricking. The red hair means he has to have Radagon lineage
His name also starts with M
>already draw a map in one day
Do eldengays have nothing else to do?
do you know where you are?
That guy drew a map of a game he loves.
You cried about a game you hate.
His day seems better than your day.
>t. drawlet dickcordtroony
>Elden Ring chad is talented enough to draw a detailed map of a game he loves
>You are a worthless little b***h that has no talents or skills and can only cry about people enjoying something
Holy frick, you got the ERgay(s) this assblasted with a single post. Good job.
troony
bump
The actual game for them is updating the wiki.
Kino image
It was obvious when he said it is about the size of limgrave that he was trying not to say altus. Dont ask me why.
Anyways i think some people are going to be slightly disappointed because they expected the whole map to be shadow world but its probably just going to be altus that is available in shadow world.
That's pretty impressive but I think there'll be more stuff on the west side.
>Played through the game like 5 times
>Have to kill Mohg on 3 characters
Frick
perhaps git gud?
Mohg is one of the best boss fights, what the frick are you on about? Can you just admit you got filtered already?
>Bloodfire spam everywhere
>Flies around like a homosexual in phase 2
>Dude he's the best boss fight!
Frick off
Mogh was easy compared to Malenia or Maliketh but I agree that the fight was garbage.
Anon... I see that Great Stars and Bloodflame Blade, you don't get to complain about his flaming jizz. Yes, he does fly all over the place in phase 2, these are his most telegraphed and most-easily-punished attacks, that's a GOOD thing. All you have to do is muster all the brainpower in that tiny little peanut of yours to learn the flaming jizz patterns that come from each of his attacks and he's pretty simple. It's all very logical too, flaming jizz gets flung around the way you'd expect based on how his greatspear moves when he swings it.
So yes, he is one of the best fights, interesting and unique attacks that aren't hard to pick up on, great spectacle, good lore importance, great music, good remembrance rewards, what's not to love? Unless you're a shit player getting filtered of course...
Did you really use chat GPT to write a response?
The frick is wrong with you?
good response. now instead of embarrassing yourself further i suggest you practice the fight, that's the only way you will improve
have a nice day discord homosexual
Even I managed to beat him with a shit INT/DEX build and a Spirit summon (2 sword wielding legend that spins and goes hard).
but was it fun
Is that Taker's Cameo you have equipped during a boss fight? And a +6 flask at the very end of the game? Maybe you're struggling with the fight because you're an idiot and not because it's bad?
This doesn't look like a good amount of vigor/damage reduction to be doing this fight at. Get some prawn and some more max HP.
>Over 10 main bosses
>30 "boss slots" in the files
>8 completely new weapon types (some of which were leaked a long ago)
>At least 2 Legacy Dungeons
This DLC has more content than full games holy shit
first might be the dueling shield
second is probably those duel swords/knives that shoot a projectile when swinging
last is obviously the first weapons/art thing
Oh gee, can't wait to find out how much of a piece of shit, Miquella actually is.
>comma splice
Better luck next time, Shazam
I'm convinced From Shit eaters are simply moronic.
Unless you're actually a fricking shill, there is no need to unironically defend this half-assed effort of a game.
Elden Ring is one of the best games of all time, please proceed to shit yourself
>is that fog and a colored skybox??? IM GOING INSAAAANE
Elden Ring is one of the best games of all time, please continue to shit yourself
Shut up drone
Continue to shit yourself
Lmao, what did you even meant by this?
>Fromshart can't stop thinking about shit
>shit your pants publicly
>wtf why does everyone around me keep saying it smells like shit
Continue to shit yourself
>i never played the game
Oh, that explains it
There's no truth, you're making shit up to get mad about a game that doesn't even exist
Christ, the leaves are always so goddamn ugly.
>from-drones yelling "NAH NAH YOU'RE LYING I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALA!" when faced with legit criticism of Ubisoft Ring
You'll kill erdtree guardians and ulcerated wyrms and do copy pasted dungeons again and you'll defend it.
Keep shitting yourself, looney troon
>anyone I don't like is... LE troon
If you shit yourself anymore, you're gonna get dehydrated and risk your health, anon.
>Go back moron
>There's no truth, you're making shit up to get mad about a game that doesn't even exist
Ok...
>what did you even meant by this?
the amount of actual gameplay not counting the 20 hours of crafting material collecting and catacombs with normal enemies as bosses guarding a worthless talisman
>it doesn't count as gameplay if I don't like the reward at the end
what DID she mean by this
total amount of gameplay represented by this screenshots: 30 minutes
>Elden Ring is one of the best games of all time
KEK, you can repeat that as many times as you want, it's not even one of the best from games
>you can repeat that as many times as you want
Ironic
Was your first from game wasn't it ? lol, maybe you didn't even played it, probably that's why you post images, being pretty doesn't make a game good
>Was your first from game wasn't it ?
No, DS1 was
you can repeat that as many times as you want
And yet I'm not the one claiming ER to be one of the best games of all time with a screenshot of the same student like composition
Yeah, you're a discord troony seething and dilating all over the thread
Looks like AI, it's disgusting. 0 artistic vision
the whole game looks like a Magic the Gathering card. 😐
>0 artistic vision
kek you are really getting desperate
The worst ones are the ones who actually think ER is even in the top 50% of Fromsoft games. I'm guessing most of them weren't even old enough to be playing vidya when the PS2 was around.
I’m pretty convinced every one of the people that actually gets mad on here about people disliking this game fits this description.
Fromsoft has countless trash shovelware games. If you’re just talking about their games from DeS onwards then they’re all on a similar level of quality except for DaS2
You are literally one of the people I'm talking about
>Entire AC series
>Entire KF series
>ST/STA
>At least half of the souls games + BB
>Fricking Chromehounds
etc. All are better than Elden Ring, especially for their time. The highest I'd put ER is maybe at the 60th percentile, and that's only with a series of caveats about not considering the technical advances over time and judging purely on what's there.
But why are you in every Elden Ring thread if you supposedly hate it so much? Go to the thread about a PS2 FS game lmao
Why are you pissing and shitting your pants?
I am? I think it's you autistically screeching at the Elden Ring thread because people like Elden Ring lol
But you didn’t laugh out loud even once during this exchange, anon. You type like a teenage girl who is mad enough to light small fires with her mind
Because it's a bad game and people are allowed to talk about how disappointing it was.
Oh it's another discord raid thread
You can, the difficulty adjusts to your level
You can straight up rush to it or start it with your level 300 character
>everyone who disagrees with me is a discord raider
No, but you and your discord buddies are
Same posting pattern every thread
I have literally never installed, not made an account for, discord. I have no friends who use it either because IRC worked fine for 20+ years and so did email. Try again.
>your next post is: Lol ur old
Lol ur old
Damn fricking right I am.
see
i've been in 3 ER DLC threads today and all had you and your discord looney troons spamming them bud
I have posted in multiple ER threads over the course of the last year and have been called a discord troony in just about every one of them despite not having a discord or being a troony. I think there's just some moron between the ages of 18 and 25 that happens to be posting in every single ER thread I've read in the last year, or at least some guy who read the initial moron's posts and really liked his style.
>and have been called a discord troony in just about every one of them
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...
This is a raid thread, real threads are
or
Thank you for pointing me to the real threads so that I can go shitpost about how boring the game is in them. I hope you enjoy replying to me in them.
>Trolling outside of /b/
>announcing a report or sage
But i'm not, unlike you annoucing you will troll outside of /b/
ay thats my pic based
>But i'm not,
You are too easy to frick with, anon, jeez.
>discord
Oh, it's a moronic ERbabby.
>actual goyshit-eating mestizo zoomer trying to talk to his betters
I don't know how someone can actually sit there and type out that King's Field and Shadow Tower are better games than Elden Ring. I love them, don't get me wrong, but I have the honesty to admit they're objectively not even very good games, let alone compared to the Souls franchise.
Because being contrarian on Ganker is a lot of people's main personality trait.
Because they are
>actually complete
>respectful of player time
>cohesive and tightly-designed
>minimally annoying in ways that were avoidable
Elden Ring is none of those things.
Git gud.
I've beaten every souls game including elden ring with no summons and multiple builds. Elden ring is a game that's designed to waste your fricking time and annoy you with bad mechanics and cancer enemies. It's not hard, in fact it's probably the easiest souls game besides DeS.
>no you don't get it, wasting hours on horseback is good gameplay!
have a nice day
I seriously haven't played another one of the Souls games where I had that "this shit is wasting my time" sensation either. I dropped Elden Ring after 60 hours of copy and pasted meandering that reminded me of better games.
>I've beaten every souls game including elden ring with no summons and multiple builds.
Irrelevant
> Elden ring is a game that's designed to waste your fricking time and annoy you with bad mechanics and cancer enemies. It's not hard, in fact it's probably the easiest souls game besides DeS.
And how does the game waste your time, because it is actually bigger in scope than all the Souls games combined and because it demands your time? If that bothers you, just don't play it if you can't commit to a playthrough.
>bigger in scope than all the Souls games combined
anon, just because you are a smoothbrain who thinks galloping around collecting pointless crafting materials is "scope" doesnt make it so. at least you have something to entertain yourself with in between beatings from your stepdad
>And how does the game waste your time
Let me list a few ways
1. Every enemy is hyper-aggro with little counter for non-ranged builds. This isn't hard, it just forces you to wait until you can hit them
2. The open world is fricking empty as shit and unless you're a guidegay you will waste hours scouring it for upgrade mats because they're needlessly rare and have too many types
3. Enemies give frickall runes when they die and you need tons of runes to level, further exacerbating point 2 because you also have to waste time riding around to find new copypaste dungeons with "bosses" to get any appreciable amount of runes to level up because...
4. Elden Ring depends more on stats than any other game in the series and unless you really want to waste time there are a number of stat-check bosses.
>b-b-but this youtube video of an RL1 no dodge run of-
Took more hours to complete than an entire playthrough, yes. Waste of time.
The scope means nothing when it's largely pointless bullshit that adds nothing to the game. DS3 felt bigger than Elden Ring.
Even with the sprint you will waste hours because the world is vast and largely empty.
>wasting hours on horseback
You do know there's a sprint button right
Based
>Based
Name one song recorded by Lil B without looking it up
>You do know there's a sprint button
So you're actually meant to skip all the shitty content then? What's the point of putting them in the game if all the areas have bad level design?
Dood you don't get it. The Content being so inconsequential and boring that you want to just skip through it as fast as possible is uh actually it uh it gives the player a lot of FREEDOM OKAY!! you are a troony
>So you're actually meant to skip all the shitty content then?
No, i mean you can sprint with your horse. lol
why not just make the horse run at top speed when you tilt the analog stick all the way? why not just outright copy the much better-designed horse speed mechanic from Ocarina of Time? hitting sprint every few seconds fricking sucks
>walks at the slowest speed possible
>complains about the game being time consuming
What is this moronation
>every game that contains a sprint is shitty
lol
Yes, actually. Think about how asinine and fricking stupid the "keep on pressing this button at a consistent rhythm if you wanna get there quickly" mechanic is for a moment.
It's stupid! It's a waste of your time. It's a button that does nothing but checking to see if you're actually paying attention.
Reading this worthless shitpost was a bigger waste of time
I wrote it in a shitposty way, but that is actually an opinion I had before I decided to be a villain on Ganker today.
I've always thought that sprinting mechanics that demand you to keep on pressing the button to keep up speed were just kinda stupid.
I don't like games where you have to keep the button held down because that is moronic. Either make it a one click and you sprint until you stop or make your character auto sprint after a few seconds of forward motion.
I agree completely, it should just be a toggle. Either that or there should be TWO buttons so that I can accelerate and decelerate, but I doubt that would be palatable to most other people outside of driving controls. The carrot mechanic in Zelda handles this pretty cleverly with one button, I think.
>Either that or there should be TWO buttons so that I can accelerate and decelerate
Most morons would freak out about something like that not being in a driving game, yeah. Speaking of, Pacific Drive has been a lot of fun so far.
of player time
you're so gay lol
>King Fields
>Being good, let alone being better than ER
kek
>Zoomer has no taste, cannot discern quality from graphics and marketing
Yes we know
>Barebones dungeon crawler with braindead enemies and even more braindead combat
>Quality
LMAO, please do yourself a favour a play an actually good first person rpg from that period like arx fatalis or morrowind
>KF1
>1994
>KF2 (1 in west)
>1995
>Arx Fatalis
>Morrowind
>2002
>same era
Zoomie zoom zoom
only one I played is KF4 (2001), knowing fromsoft it's not particularly different from its predecessors, which, if anything are probably even shittier so my arguments stands
moronic Black person lmao
OLD GOOD NEW BAD
kings field is a barely functional dungeon crawler, more of a proof of concept than a finished game
controls were clunky like no tomorrow, enemies were giga moronic and you could regularly perma cheese most enemies in the game
>DaS2
that game seriously needs a remake
it has a few moments of that good From magic that can be salvaged
That game totally isn’t anywhere near as bad as most people say it is, but I can’t say I think remaking it would really make it better. I like it for what it is, the weird B team Dark Souls sequel.
It needs a "remake" as KF5, with a camera shift to first person and a combat slowdown. I'd kill to see that.
I really hope they give King’s Field another shot in the future.
With how well Fromsoft is doing I think it's inevitable. Same with Shadow Tower, though maybe they'll roll the two series into one "new IP".
>that game seriously needs a remake
It's called Elden Ring. Same shitty director with the same exact problems.
Most people who suck ER's wiener are newbies. Every long time fromsoft fan I know has the same huge list of complaints.
None of them will ever admit it, but they all like Elden Ring because the game fills them with the exaggerated swagger of a Dark Souls player that is five to ten years older than them.
What causes a person to look at a string of genuinely good games and get aggressively angry about them? Like what mental issues do you have? Im curious from a scientific perspective.
theyre underaged
>Gaslighting nonsense
No.
Elden Ring is not a genuinely good game, it's an unfinished plot hole unresolved disappointment. Devil may cry 1&3 are genuinely good games. Enchanted Arms is a genuinely good game, Demon souls is a genuinely good game Elden Ring is a massive waste of potential, like most fromsoft games that continued to follow the souls' formula after demon souls. If you like the game, that’s fine, but to sit up here and act like the game is the second coming of Christ is nothing short of a joke.
No Unreleased games with broken quest (Elden Ring)
No DLC
No on disc DLC
No Microtransactions
No battle passes
No season passes
No paying for unlocking cosmetics that were previously unlockable free of charge in past generations of gaming
Come again?
If expecting quality means someone is underage, then you old geezers dropped the fricking ball.
It's the second coming of Christ though, the best game ever made. Seethe
I played them all since Demon's Souls and Elden Ring is fantastic, mechanically also the best Fromsoftware game, and with the best art direction and worldbuilding. The fact that the dlc drops already so many hints to existing characters and plot lines makes it already the best DLC From has made, so I couldn't possibly be more hyped.
It is shaping up to be their greatest DLC, but it first needs to release for it to be official!
>elden ring lore: OMG HE'S A BADASS HE HAS BAT WINGS AND WEARS RED AND BLACK AND FIRE COMES OUT HIS SWORD!!!!
Shit bait.
The offensive power leveling is also a genius way to make sure character can jump into it asap and have a proper progression and then maybe finish the base game with the cool stuff they get in the DLC, without feeling penalized or overleveled for the base game
>*Fixed *
You know what?If this is genuine then I'm truly happy for you anon I just expected more out of the game that's all so when the DLC comes out enjoy yourself.
Same page, anon. I do a little shitposting on here with the ER likers since I found the game so disappointing, but I am happy they're enjoying video games. They could be playing and buying much worse games.
>They could be playing and buying much worse games.
kek.
Indeed.
So simple yet so cute, impressive.
>kek.
>Indeed.
A very hearty kek, indeed. God bless these morons.
>muh where's my Sekiro deflect
>It's disappointing
kys
Just merely disliking the game is enough to get you to see red, I love it. I didn't think it needed a Sekiro reflect, but I didn't think that it used open world game design in a thoughtful way that made exploring the game feel more creative and engaging. It just made the distances longer. The horsey controls like shit, and the game just feels like more Dark Souls. It is a vastly overrated game, 6.5/10.
what did you expect from the game?
When I first saw the announcement trailer for Elden Ring and subsequently heard that it was going to be a Souls style game, but with an open world, I was hoping for, if not outright anticipating a truly special take on the formula, which blends the weird and wonderful aspects of Souls style level design with open world progression.
I was imagining vast, non-euclidian labyrinths, dense fog-filled forests which warp the player's sense of perspective and scale, giant Shadow of the Colossus style bosses which traverse the world, some as passive wanderers and others as active pursuers. A game where the world itself is another enemy to defeat and puzzle to solve, but can also lend a helping hand to more observant players through a wealth of environmental interactions.
What we ended up with is a bunch of generic swamps and fields dotted with ubisoft-style enemy camps and the occasional scripted encounter against a dragon or yet another big guy in armour wielding a large weapon. The lore of Elden Ring, doesn't really do anything to make itself distinctive from Dark Souls, in fact it's copypasted.
Elden Ring's world feels like less of an actual, breathing world and more like a painting. It's pretty for sure, but it's next to completely static and falls into the tedious open world loop of move to new place, clear enemy camps, maybe fight a boss or two, pick up loot, rinse and repeat with the same exact combat system that has evolved past DeS, that has less depth and options than PS2 games. Despite From releasing Sekiro just a couple of years prior.
tl,dr
I know reading is hard for morons who pretend DaS2: Open World Edition was good.
This is ironically pretty much how I felt about Elden Ring. Way too long and uneventful to be worth finishing.
This is also exactly why Elden Ring was so disappointing to me. I expected specifically a lot of what you're describing in your first paragraph, a unique and creative take on open world game design. Elden Ring feels like the safest bet they could have possibly made, a by-the-numbers open world game that capitalizes on the popularity of Dark Souls.
its all so they can give us enormous perfect sekiro 2 trust
Oh, I won't even go down that road. I'm perfectly happy with Sekiro being a self-contained story with no sequel. I'd much rather they put all that effort into making something truly novel like Sekiro without making a sequel to it.
succinctly put. its just a bad souls game with a cringeworty veneer of everything wrong with open worlds.
Shut up, Discordbitch.
What a great way to put it. Was very curious what unique vision From would have on the open world design. Well, now I know.
A way to complete all the quest with positive, negative or neutral outcomes depending on how much of a moron you're being during a playthough.
A more alive world with mini-hubs of npcs or towns with people in the outside world that doesn't just want to cave your skull in the moment they see you
More fleshed out Melina.
More fleshed out story... admittedly, what lore is present so far is pretty damn intriguing.
An ending that makes the journey actually feel worth it, unfortunately I wasn't satisfied with any of the endings.
>Elden Ring is a glorified DS3 mod with the worst traits of Open World
>Fromsoft games only difficulty comes from learning enemy movesets, combat mechanics themselves are very simple
>Normies love open world and George R R Martin
It isn't hard to understand why people latch onto this games.
>Fromsoft games only difficulty comes from learning enemy movesets
What is resource management and being careful in exploring the new areas and dealing with the threats they present? There's more to their difficulty besides the boss fights.
>What is resource management and being careful in exploring
Not a thing in Souls after they shifted from Adventure Fantasy to Battle Fantasy since DaS2 onwards.
>Adventure Fantasy to Battle Fantasy
meds, take em
Sure, you definitely don't have to play carefully in DaS 3 and BB, that lack DaS 2's infinite healing resources.
You don't so I'm not even sure where you're going with that.
>You don't so
But you do, especially Bloodborne. Why did so many people complain about blood vials not regenerating, but you having to farm/buy them then?
It was because I wasn't strong enough and Mogh put on a show. One of the best fights in the game.
>Resource management in a game that shit out 20 rolls and gives you insane stamina regen preventing you from running out of stamina.
>Nuke bosses with a couple of mana estus flask and Physic at worst
Also even if you had to do resource management, it is still incredibly basic and a bare minimum in most action games, hell even most games that have combat in general.
Also most of your essential resources gets regenerated at the bonfire so it is not like you have to prepare consumables in advance, so saying resource management is vital in a fromsoft game is laughable considering how little of it there actually is.
It's not as prevalent as in DeS or DaS 1 before you acquire Lordvessel, but it is still important to pay attention to your surroundings and to not chug healing resources like a moron, because you're most certainly going to die.
>but you can one shot bosses!
Okay, you can break nearly every game, not really an argument.
>>but you can one shot bosses!
>Okay, you can break nearly every game, not really an argument.
Where did I say one shotting bosses at all? My point was that the resources are so lax in Elden Ring that to say one of the things that saying resource management is important is completely laughable, both in terms of managing it in combat itself and in preparation beforehand. Most Art of Wars are pretty cheap, Physick gives you essentially free MP casting to allow you easily use more expensive spells while the Stamina pool is not only large enough to give you plenty of attacks and rolls at once, but the regen is incredibly high that at worst you wait a few seconds to recharge back to full.
I don't even need to mention that your most important resources gets regenerated at the bonfire, so saying you even need to be careful while exploring isn't even that true unless you have a lot of souls, most of the time people will just avoid enemies by dodging them with rolls rather than reclearing areas every single time, there is barely a need to be careful and if anything you can just run past enemies in the hopes you find where you need to go.
Elden Ring gives you Torrent as a crutch, but in tight areas and legacy dungeons you can't use him, and even though you have lots of graces, you still need to reach them. You can run from the mobs, roll through them and try to avoid fighting, but what I'm saying is that if you were to clear the areas as you moved through them and didn't just avoid fights on your way to graces, you can't just play like a moron. If that was true, lots of people wouldn't complain about the game being too hard, especially in late game. Also, this isn't only about ER, I also mentioned BB and DaS 3. BB is the best example of the game being lax on healing items (you can carry 20-25 blood vials), but you can easily run out of them if you're playing like a dumbass and then you run out of them. What then?
You're acting under the assumption that there is a serious punishment in dying when there isn't, the only punishment is losing souls. There is no disincentive to run past enemies and it is something plenty of people have caught on to even early on in the series is to not fight past every single enemy every time.
You are also acting like it is hard to run past enemies when in many cases it is incredibly easy to run past them, unless theres some platforming segment or theres some archer/spellcaster that can frick you over if you don't kill them, most enemies have relatively short range and a lack of mobility. If it is easier to kill than to try to avoid then yeah I will of course kill them first but I run past most enemies otherwise, at which point I will have plenty of spare flasks because I avoid even taking hits in the first place.
Be honest, do you actually kill most enemies in your way when you play these fromsoft games? Really? Most people I know clear areas for the first time and explore but once they have already explored will not bother reclearing enemies.
>You're acting under the assumption that there is a serious punishment in dying when there isn't, the only punishment is losing souls.
this is the main thing that bothered me about this game. you get way more souls than you could possibly need, because there is nothing interesting to spend them on. anyone who isnt moronic will be able to buy out every vendor's inventory the moment you meet them. not that you really need most of the shit they sell anyway. so that means the only other thing to spend them on is leveling up, but again, if you arent a literal moron all thats going to do is get you massively overpowered way too soon, which eliminates what little challenge this game has to offer before the endgame.
I also had this same problem. Levels felt unearned, loot felt useless, the characters all seemed paper-thin and the exploration didn't feel very exploratory. I felt as if I was being guided in a very specific direction every step of the way, a direction that led directly to my chair, where I would be doing the exact same shit I already did in Dark Souls and Breath of the Wild.
>if you arent a literal moron all thats going to do is get you massively overpowered way too soon, which eliminates what little challenge this game has to offer before the endgame
It's even worse though because the opposite end of that is fighting uphill because you went the wrong way and clawing your way to power equivalence in Caelid, then spending the next 10 hours steamrolling every single mandatory boss in the game until you're so bored that you can't even be bothered to go to Haligtree because you just want it to be over.
In general the game is just really poorly paced and balanced. I can't believe I'm advocating for this, but it needed level scaling. Maybe after every demigod dies the world gets stronger, or something, just anything but what we have.
I think Elden Rings suffers the extreme opposite problem of the yellow paint in modern games, it doesn't really guide you where you should go and if anything misdirects you to go to the bosses when with the yellow arrow on the map. On one hand people should have realized they were severely undergeared when fighting margit for the first time, but on the other hand it is pretty easy to get a +3 weapon at that point and assume it is the equivalent of a +3 in other fromsoft games when in fact you should have a +6 at that point iirc. I'm not sure if I agree with the level scaling idea but there should have been some sort of indicator that tells you that you are somewhere that you shouldn't be, many old school open games would show that you are clearly underlevelled but ER doesn't show anything like this at all.
Holy shit what a subhuman post
You definitely LOVES ubisoft ''games''
If not scaling, then better gating at least, but something yeah. I got the message from Margit, ended up in fricking Dragonsbarrow or wherever, brute-forced the dragon and putrid avatar, spent the next 10 hours getting to around level 80 and killing Radahn, then died only about 5 more times to bosses until beating Elden Beast because my 2Club STR build countered everything in the game. I even beat godskins first try, close as that fight was.
On a second playthrough (months later) it was a bit more enjoyable because I used a guide to know where to go, but you really shouldn't have to.
>Be honest, do you actually kill most enemies in your way when you play these fromsoft games? Really? Most people I know clear areas for the first time and explore but once they have already explored will not bother reclearing enemies.
In my NG runs, always, NG+ runs are a different story.
Also, you are correct to point out the setbacks aren't that bad and that the punishments for death are not as big as pre-BB titles, but BB demanding you farm/buy Blood Vials does go against this. Also, in Sekiro you lose EXP, as well as your currency, so deaths there felt more punishing in that regard, even though the mechanic that made NPCs sick didn't amount to much and could easily be ignored. However, I still wouldn't call the games braindead, that's just a gross hyperbole.
Nice strawman.
Miyazaki has been trying to make Femto since 2015, frick off Black person pedo
>DLC
>40$
I'd pay 200.
ya,i see fromsoft souls content, i buy,simple as
It's a expansion
downloadable expansion
DLE for short
All games are downloadable breh
Why are people complaining about the price when they probably put like atleast 100 hours in?
the usual suspects
still pre ordering it
>Witcher 3: Blood and Wine
$20
>Oblivion: Shivering Isles
$30
Skyrim: Dragonborn
$20
Dark Souls 3: Ringed City
$15
I guarantee you this DLC won't be anywhere near as filled with meaningful content and Blood and Wine. Half of the "content" will probably be more shitty catacombs.
>Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction
>considered one of the greatest expansions of all time
>essentially the same as this elden ring dlc, a new area but a lot of it is just repeat caves and fields, new enemy types and bosses along with some story
>$35 20 years ago
The price for this is fair.
>Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction
>considered one of the greatest expansions of all time
wtf are you talking about? D4 had 4 areas, LoD added a 5th.
As far as expansions go, it was kind of weak. Especially for Blizzard.
The blood and wine comparison is fair, blood and wine was insane value for the price
I'm assuming Ringed City is going to be way smaller than this, so it doesn't really compare
The Bethesda shit was just quite honestly not that much nor particularly good in the case of Dragonborn
LoD did plenty for the time it came out, obviously if you compare it to modern standards it's ass
Warcraft 3: 60
Warcraft 3 FT: 35
To be fair blood and wine got to skip a lot of dev time by not including proper combat.
>meaningful content
what does that mean dsp
>need to interact with boipussy egg to access the dlc
The dlc is in dreamland.
Isn't Diablo 4 "DLC" like $70?
If this is true in any capacity, gaming is finished.
Am I moronic or does this pricing make no sense?
I can either get the base-game + expansion for 49,99$ or just the expansion for 69,99$? Or are they referring to different expansions?
Yes, anon. If you want to keep the profile which already has the base game, you'll pay $70.
Damn, future's looking grim
Nah Blizzard isn’t influential on the wider market. They’re a dinosaur company with dinosaur fans
Apparently, there were surveys sent out to people that gauged interest in expansion + extra content/pre-order stuff with prices ranging up to 100$ in total.
And isn't there a 65$ mount or something?
How can you write something so stupid after seeing the trailer featuring all new locations?
Go watch ER's original trailers and tell me if you saw all the locations.
I feel like I’m losing brain cells reading this. OP said it will be the same map and I replied that the trailer shows an entirely new map. What are you even talking about?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/nwxd2w/elden_ring_trailer_locations/
Here is a reddit post showing all the shown locations in the ER original gameplay trailer.
No Caelid, no underground areas (other than a glimpse at a boss), no snow area.
>Linking a r*ddit post
Wrong boardo
PLEASE LET US GO TO THE MOON IMAGINE LIGHTING A GRACE ON THE FRICKING GODDAMN MOON AND EXPLORING WITH REDUCED GRAVITY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
It would be cool if you went to the moon and it was just fields of blue.
kino
i also want more content with my wives
based ranniwanni and melimeli enjoyer
Like, cmon. I'm literally the big dicked Tarnished genocider of gods and demigods in this shit, why can't i have both
>Neither is getting anything
Damn
dark world mechanic is the best tho lol
wish more games would do shit like 90s games did instead of Black personing sjwing and mtx bullshit
It won't fix ER's shitty level design and combat, why the frick would you pay 40$ for more of the same garbage?
Because i'm not poor like you
>B A C K E D T H E F U C K O F F
Filtered by Soldier of Godrick
>original game is 60gb
Can I take out my decked out level 250 character into this or do I have to make a new character?
Miyacucki said that the DLC is basically going to have its own power system so your 250 levels are probably gonna mean jack shit. Enjoy.
Funny how he wouldn't have to do that if ER actually had proper pacing and area gating, or wasn't so stat-based.
i cant wait to ride torrent around the new map collecting plants and animal feces. what are you guys gonna craft first? for me its objectively worse arrows than i could buy with the 9001 million souls i have stockpiled since there is nothing of value to spend them on
I’m getting really stressed out about this question and am going to have to ask you to speak to me more respectfully in the future. I will be following whatever the guide on my second monitor tells me to do because I value my time very much
the difference is that Elden Ring has engaging combat and fun boss fights
Bait used to be believable.
You can tell by just watching the trailer, anyone who has played the game easily can notice every single scene is somewhere you can go to in the game at this very moment
>anyone who has played the game easily can notice every single scene is somewhere you can go to in the game at this very moment
I have played the game and the game has 0 places similar to what the trailer showed
is there a boss rush mod yet? from makes good dlc bosses but theres no way im wasting any more time on from's fake open world
>DLC is 60gb worth of assets
I doubt this is accurate, probably just placeholder information copied from the base game Steam page because From didnt care enough to be precise
Im optimistically expecting 20gb at most
theres no way its 60gb, game unironically has ps3 graphics
Dlc/expansion/battlepass was a mistake now every game feel like a live service shit, release a game wait 2 year for full experience, man i miss the days when trailer drop and full game release day1, collecting games back then feels good
so I take it you never played a pc game on the 90's. got it.
feels like people have unrealistic expectations for the DLC
saw a thread where people claimed it'd double the base game's size. this level of cultishness is bizarre, From's DLCs to date have tried to be tighter, higher quality experiences than the base game.
I like fromsoft so much but i despise their fanbase so much
>have tried to be tighter, higher quality experiences than the base game.
Why put effort in when copy-pasting the same caves and catacombs over and over again will get all the ERbabbies to eat up your slop regardless?
>people claimed it'd double the base game's size
No one actually believes this. It's only trolls exaggerating so they can doompost later when the DLC is exactly what is expected based on FS track record
I see fromsoftware
I buy
simple as
This thread made me pre order the DLC
good work, getting in before they run out of copies
Literally no point of pre ordering something that will unlock after 4months without any benefits, early access or unreleased concept art/behind the scene access
So instead of pre ordering i should wait 4 months and buy it on day one for the same price because....?
I am the Dung Eater! A scourge upon the living!
i would love to see the napkin GRRM scribbled "dung eater" on that miyazaki paid him one million dollars for
Yeah, the people who shitpost in three threads sure are dung eaters.
>anon actually believed me when I said the boogeyman was gonna go to the threads he posted
>anon is posting in a thread expressly dedicated to something that makes him upset
How is Elden Ring's HDR implementation?
Fromchads are winning
I wonder if the Assault Shields can power attack
That outfit is so fricking good. Really hope it will be possible to equip it.
No. I make sure she sacrifices herself and then go for the frenzied flame ending.
STOP
It's not.
It's like previous Fromsoft DLCs but bigger.
There's 10 bosses.
reminder to save and cherish your meli meli
thank you for your cooperation
Trust the plan
Do you think there are any chances of facing Godwyn's body or seeing it in action?
I think theres a good chance he will be the secret milenia equivalent boss
I bet the gold shit going into this guy is like the opposite of deathroot. Deathroot is keeping godwyns body alive/growing even though its dead, the gold root is keeping this guy alive even though his body is dead/decaying. Theres gonna be a bullshit questline where you cure Godwyn and fight him in his fricked up form
Godwyn will be Miquella's motivation for coming to the shadow world, I think. Remember that the O in the title is stylized after the mending rune of death, reviving / killing Godwyn is one of Miquella's primary goals, and FromSoft DLC has a history of not teasing the true antagonist in any of the trailers.
>AotA trailer(s) focused on Artorias and only showed Manus' hand pulling the player into the past
>ToH trailer focused on everything except the fishing hamlet and Orphan of Kos
>AoA trailer focused on father Ariandel instead of sister Friede
>TRC trailer didn't show Gael at all
It just makes too much sense for the DLC to involve Godwyn in some capacity, but I suppose I could be wrong.
>Miquella's our firekeeper/Kuro and the DLC is us helping him put Godwyn to rest
Could be kino.
Miquella/St Trina is 100% the voice in the end of the trailer, that sounds likely
Would be more interesting than him turning into yet another monstrosity we have to fight tbh.
game has animations from demons souls and still hasnt fixed the input eating when you land from a jump but yeah lets give them $40 for more berserkslop
Yes
fromgays said it was outrageous when totk was the same map
but this is totally different and good
from software is unironically the worst thing to happen to gaming besides wokeshittery
>from software is unironically the worst thing to happen to gaming besides wokeshittery
demons and dark souls 1 were good. and if they ever release bloodborne with a playable frame rate. everything else is trash though
Tendie, this isn't the same map...
>Tendie, this isn't the same map...
true, the animal ghosts are now tombstone ghosts, and the erdleaf flowers and tombstone jump pads are in different spots. so its more like a randomizer. take my $40. take it
>source my ass
>bing bing wahooooooo!
wow you're mad
$40 just isn't enough... this is a whole-ass EXPANSION like they usedta make in the good old days fr! I should be paying $60 for this ish
TotK didn't win GOTY. Get over it already.
>fromgays said it was outrageous when totk was the same map
Yeah, what does this have to do with Shadow of the Erdtree, which adds a completely new map?
>but this is totally different and good
It is.
The only problem with dlc i have is WHY 21june, please shadow drop it on march 🙁
Can we get some OPs that arent moronic
Be the change you want to see.
They threw away characters that people care about for some literal who edgy gay. They can't stop doing it.
>sekiro is trash
its almost like there are traitors among the discord raiders to make the rest of them look even more moronic
is trash
Only ERgays peddle this. They can't handle action games.
But I enjoy both ER and Sekiro.
I prefer sekiro's combat and some bosses to elden ring's, it just lacks content/replayability and has nothing cool to wear or change between playthroughs for my character, it's just the same damn guy.
>it just lacks content/replayability and has nothing cool to wear or change between playthroughs for my character, it's just the same damn guy.
What about experimenting with specific item/Shinobi technique interactions between bosses and mobs you fight, as well as becoming a godtier shinobi tearing through the game? That's reason enough to replay Sekiro, especially since it features the most refined gameplay in any From Software game, except the new AC title. Elden Ring also did plenty to give you plethora of options in combat and featured specific interactions that most players didn't bother with because they restricted themselves to the Dark Souls style of rolling and attacking.
>Dark Souls style of rolling and attacking.
its either that, spamming weapon arts, or shooting 9001 different versions blue lasers
>experimenting with specific item/Shinobi technique interactions between bosses and mobs you fight, as well as becoming a godtier shinobi tearing through the game
Many people don't actually enjoy mastering games anymore. It's fricking weird. I see the same complaints about AC6 and I just want to shake these morons and go "Do you not fricking understand that this game is basically a mech spectacle fighter?"
Utterly styling on bosses in Sekiro was some of the most fun I ever had in a Fromsoft game.
>Utterly styling on bosses in Sekiro was some of the most fun I ever had in a Fromsoft game.
Likewise, beating Owl to a pulp or mastering DoH and Isshin was great, as well as figuring out how to best make use of specific Shinobi arts and Prosthetics for certain encounters. Same goes for AC VI, that game is just FUN and really competently designed, that I just couldn't stop playing the game after my NG/+/++ runs.
In AC6 I'm constantly making weird mechs with crazy loadouts or concepts and running them just to see if it's possible to beat certain content with them, and surprise surprise it usually is. I really want a DLC for it, and I really hope Fromsoft makes a different "line" of games with gameplay concepts more like Sekiro and AC6 because they're surprisingly good at making action games for a company that mostly got famous for RPGs.
I think we'll get a DLC for the game, previous AC games did and they game sold really well, even more than expected, so after they're done with Shadow of the Erdtree, they're likely going to be working on a new game (if they already aren't in the process of working on one) and give us DLC for AC VI.
AC actually has different shit to do and pick up though, you arguably don't even get the full experience if you only play it once.
Sekiro doesn't change, you'll just be better at breezing through it a second and third time despite already being able to beat it.
The bell and charm aren't interesting enough to make anything but DMC aurists play a game over again.
>AC actually has different shit to do and pick up though, you arguably don't even get the full experience if you only play it once.
You need to play it three times to really know what's going on in the game.
Yeah, you are agreeing with my argument and saying shit I know already.
Why say that as if it's in argument with my post?
I'm merely adding to it, since you haven't mentioned that NG++ gives you a look behind the curtain and shows you what was actually happening in the game. The reply wasn't meant to be in opposition to your post, merely supplemental.
>The bell and charm aren't interesting enough to make anything but DMC aurists play a game over again
I mean if you dislike the base mechanics, sure. I find Sekiro to be a game that's just plain fun to play. I pop it open some times and just obliterate a zone or two as stress relief. To me, it's similar to classic doom, where I just like the game and I can play it forever, just not in massive marathon sittings.
No?
I like Sekiro's base mechanics more than any other fromsoft game other than maybe armored core, but they can't hold me in to replay the exact same thing over and over again at varying degrees of superfluous skill and ease.
Sekiro's mechanics were good but there wasn't any point to replaying it for me.
While that is fair, Sekiro arguably starts in NG+ once you get a hang of things and play it without Kuro's Charm. That's the "true" Sekiro experience.
Then you don't really enjoy the game that much mechanically. There's a difference between thinking a game is well-made and really, really liking it. For example, I think Bam Ham City is a very well-made game but I wouldn't say I enjoy it tremendously because I've never felt the need to replay it.
It's not a dig, this is a personal taste thing, to be clear.
>What about experimenting with specific item/Shinobi technique interactions between bosses and mobs you fight, as well as becoming a godtier shinobi tearing through the game?
Literally who cares?
There wasn't enough to meaningfully frick around with for a second playthrough and I felt like I'd already learned the bosses decently well, just replaying the game over and over at that point would be overkill.
>especially since it features the most refined gameplay in any From Software game
It does, and I'm slightly salty elden ring learned almost nothing from it since I liked it and sekiro has disappointingly small context to use it in.
>Literally who cares?
You don't like video games, straight up. Fricking casual, get out.
Fricking moronic drones
I enjoyed the game the first time, just because I don't want to do the exact same thing over and over again with no meaningful differences doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it.
>Literally who cares?
People who really liked the game, for starters. The whole point is to master the game's combat and to tear through it on subsequent NG+ runs.
>tear through it on subsequent NG+ runs.
you cant do that though. have you ever even actually tried to "run" through ng+? even on the max difficulty game cycle, literally nothing is challenging until the endgame. you ride straight to margit, who is only challenging on your first playthru. in ng+ and beyond its a joke. you kill him, then you run through stormveil and its the same exact thing with godrick. mindlessly kill him easily, then move on to shit tier raya lucaria for another 0 skill required fight. then 10 minutes of horseriding and shit tier ravine fighting to get to the capital.
You replied to a post regarding Sekiro.
Then you're ignoring the specifics that make it different from Dark Souls, even though core thematic tenants are shared, like the concept of kegare being prevalent in it.
He's talking about Sekiro, buddy. Agreed on Elden Ring though.
>$40
SISTERS! This is an outrage!! Why would FromGODware undercharge us like this?!?!? We have to start a kickstarter to make the DLC $100 at minimum and then I'll buy 3 copies!!! FROMCHADWARE NEEDS US, SISTERS!!!
>dark souls lore: here's your 300 year old son of a god who keeps the light of the ethereal flame burning over the lands of aether
>elden ring lore: OMG HE'S A BADASS HE HAS BAT WINGS AND WEARS RED AND BLACK AND FIRE COMES OUT HIS SWORD!!!!
What went so very very wrong?
Im actually a little angry at how cute she is.
He has a penis
but thats not elden ring lore
My only beef with the lore in Elden Ring is that it just kinda feels like a retread of what I already experienced in the Dark Souls series. That, and I find the shameless use of GRRM's name to advertise the story when he barely contributed anything to it to be in poor taste.
>when he barely contributed anything
He wrote the lion's share of the lore anon wym
The "lore" being events that happened before the game, no? He didn't write any stuff that actually happens during the game.
Don't you think From would have wanted to publish literally anything that GRRM wrote as a way to market this game? I doubt he wrote any completed stories for them.
>My only beef with the lore in Elden Ring is that it just kinda feels like a retread of what I already experienced in the Dark Souls series
You're ignoring all the traits of Martin's writing, as there are lots of aspects from ASOIAF that made it into ER. Morghott is a direct parallel to Tyrion, for an example. The fight for the throne, the decadent opulence of Leyendell and the infighting for the throne, all things Martin is known for. The obvious influence of Zelazny's The Chronicles of Amber is also present. People just focus on the lore and read the game strictly through Miyazaki's lens, ignoring Martin's contribution. After all, the DLC content is something Martin wrote for the original game and nothing new was written for the Shadow of the Erdtree, as Miyazaki noted in the recent interview.
ring lore: OMG HE'S A BADASS HE HAS BAT WINGS AND WEARS RED AND BLACK AND FIRE COMES OUT HIS SWORD!!!!
KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO
He has such a memorable design. It would be cool to get his snakes with remembrance but it's likely going to be a spell or a weapon and nothing to do with snakes.
I hope Messmer is much harder than Malenia and the 5th DLC "story boss" and from there it ramps up the difficulty all the way to Miquella being far harder
Every single ER thread is filled with the same homosexuals spamming about discord trannies. They don't even realize the irony.
Yeah, they undoubtedly talk about the discord trannies in their own group chat, or maybe even a literal discord server. one of the posters might even be trans themselves. clown world.
>stop exposing me!!
lol
i like when they give up replying after getting btfo and then start replying to each other
You want a (You) this badly, anon? There's only so many places the conversation can go with you. You're gonna call me a troony for disliking a game you like; that's as far as this ever goes.
no
im just going to tell you to seethe and cope
i cant wait to whack the field bosses legs on torrent and then whack the humanoid bosses legs after waiting for their 10 second combo to end
The horse in this game, god. He sucks! Torrent sucks ass! I don't know why they didn't add in some kind of horse-taming mechanic or some way to add some kind of variety to mounted combat. Maybe they were afraid of being compared unfavorably to BotW.
Oh boy more shitty caves and catacombs to explore for worthless rewards.
but its legacy dungeons that are being added
legacy dungeons arent catacombs or caves, dumbo
>more spamming spastic anime bosses like malenia and maliketh
can't wait!
is...is that another corpse with a twinkling item on it? oh. my. god. wonder if this one will be a mushroom or consumable runes. so this is the power of exploration
>same shit but no deeper lore explanation. Wide as an ocean deep as a puddle garbage.
Old Hunters still is king of this pile of shit. FS is truly the repetitive incompetent studio.
Is 74 dex 27 faith decent? Level 150 confessor with the makara mask or whatever it's called to use bloodflame blade on a keen antspur so incan use bloodflame.blade on it. Figure 27 faith is good since it's the minimum I need to use the godslayer seal and it also let's me use burn o' flame.
>Level 150
have a nice day, Redditor
I dont use reddit, sorry.
I doubt... you could even imagine it.
>See a bunch of Skeletons guarding a corpse, kill them and find a Poisonbloom in that corpse.
That which commanded the stars.
>See a bunch of Poison Mushrooms guarding a corpse, kill them and find an Arteria Leaf in that corpse
Giving life... its fullest brilliance.
>See a bunch of Wolves guarding two corpses, kill them and find a Glowstone and a Golden Rune (1) in those corpses.
THE ELDEN RING!!!
>See a bunch of Bats guarding a corpse, kill them and find a Golden Rune (1) in that corpse. Exact same thing happens less than 5 minutes later.
OOOOOHHHHH, ELDEN RING!!!
>See a bunch of Highwaymen guarding a chest, kill them and find 5 Mushrooms in that chest.
Shattered...
>See a bunch of Demi-Humans guarding two corpses, kill them and find 3 Ruin Fragments and a Large Club in those corpses.
By someone...
>See a Giant Miranda Flower and a bunch of small Miranda Flowers guarding two corpses, kill them and find an Immunizing Cured Meat and a Golden Rune (2) in those corpses.
Or something...
>See a bunch of Demi-Humans guarding a corpse, kill them and find a Hefty Beast Bone in that corpse.
Don't tell me... you don't see it...
>See a bunch of Demi-Humans guarding a corpse, kill them and find Crab Eggs in that corpse.
LOOK UP AT THE SKY!
>See a Big Land Octopus and a bunch of small Land Octopuses guarding a corpse, kill them and find a Golden Rune (1) in that corpse.
It burns...
>more proof discord gays didnt even played the game
>No story
>Barren open world
>No challenge
>Invasive tutorial slides, instead of optional writings like in the other games
>Dualwielding makes the game even more trivial
>Input reading
>Awful music
>Magic is overpowered
>No mimics
>Just summon ashes to win, bro!
>Bosses are easier to stagger now, meaning the game is even more casual friendly
>Most weapon abilities trivialize the game
>Like 75% of the game is optional
>No solo invasions
>No covenants, meaning that PvP has no point
>4 endings are the same (kek)
>Teleports (WHAT THE FRICK WERE THEY THINKING?????)
>Intro is a powerpoint slideshow
>"Altering costumes" system is the dumbest idea ever
>Fast travel
>Crafting is the most useless mechanic of all time
>They changed Malenia's white VA to some black foid for woke points (OH NO NO)
>All big bosses are garbage
>Cuck shit
>Feminist shit
>Simp shit
>Furry shit
>troony shit
>Gay shit
>Pedophile shit
>You have to simp for a woman in order to access some of the game's content (lmao)
>Paid DLC
>Final boss is a troony and a giant fish instead of kino old man battle like in literally all previous games
>Skyrim dungeons (that have no rewards)
>Boss reuse
>Asset reuse
>Worst camera ever
Is Elden Ring the worst game of all time?
shazamtroon having a meltie
Why do modern gamers hate asset reuse so much? Every great game reuses it's assets because it lets them focus on other shit.
>Company that is incapable of doing anything but copypasting will continue copypasting
Wow, what a shocker
The number one issue that Elden Ring suffers from is dishonesty. It lies to the player constantly. It tell you that you have a "choice" to reject Melina's offer of a contract. That's a lie. It puts a boss in your path the minute you start the game proper, leading you to assume it's a boss you must defeat to progress (like the games before). That's a lie. Then it does the same thing again with Margit, but that time you actually DO have to beat him to progress, so it lied to you again.
The game is a piece of shit that insults your intelligence, leads you by the nose only to frick you over, and intentionally frustrates you with cheap gimmicks, unavoidable deaths, and insane damage scaling in the second half of the game, all in the name of "difficulty". It takes the concept of "fun", replaces it with tedium, and then defends that choice by calling it a challenge.
It's a dishonest, trite pile of garbage, written by a fat, israeli scat fetishist who is obsessed with tax policies and rape to a point of fault. It's easily one of the worst games ever made, and certainly the weakest Fromsoft title, although nothing they've ever done aside from Bloodborne and Sekiro can be considered "good".
Oh boy I cant wait to see these same exact posts spammed verbatim with the same images nonstop for the next 6 months.
>Frombabs are this new
dont give raiders (You)s
shouldnt even be bumping this shit thread
You gave me a bunch of (You)s in this very thread, you hypocrite. Your shaky leadership will spell the doom of the anti-discord junta... mark my words
It's a spiritually israeli game.
Nice 40 dollar Demo you have there
I’m so fricking sick of Elden Ring. Soulsborne games are often held up as “the best ever”, and Elden Ring has been plastered all over this board. Oh cool, yet another soulsborne game that just looks and feels like a copy of every other soulsborne game. I don’t get the hype for these over games with new and interesting combat mechanics like The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom. Maybe it has something to do with the fact TotK has some biting social commentary folks don’t like to think about.
Elden ring is uninteresting to me and many others who look at it and see “oh hey From Software made another game that’s hard as balls with a mediocre setting, guess we’ll be hearing about how good it is for the next 5 years”. It’s not anything special or unique gameplay wise, it has lazy design and boring combat mechanics.
From a game design perspective, Soulsborne games just feel lazy to me. Their difficulty is artificially inflated by not telling you anything. That’s not good game design, it’s a lazy difficulty tweak. As someone that went to school for game design, I know what I’m talking about.
>Oh cool, yet another soulsborne game that just looks and feels like a copy of every other soulsborne game.
If you don't have the eye for nuance in this games, don't comment in the threads with your ignorant opinions.
>fromdrone buries his head in the sand and cant see how elden ring is just an amalgamation of all the assets created from their previous games since demons souls
No argument, a real classic.
>Miyazaki is going to banish us to The Shadow Realm
>Same thing over again
>that will be 40 bucks
Frick this fricking hack studio. BB was the only game that felt more alive than any other game they shat out. ER is copy-paste DS3.
>he thinks GRRM was paid to write "lore" and not paid to use his name for marketing
you have to be 18 to post here
no shit, I can't believe anybody actually buys that he wrote anything more than "times were tough in not-europe"
Why wouldn't he write lore? I'm sure he was honored by the idea.
I haven't played since release, is a build that focuses on Blaphemous Blade still the most OP build for PVE?
Yes. It's still OP but so are many other weapons. You can't go wrong with Blasphemous Blade for PvE. Personally I'd use it even if it wasn't powerful. It's very beautiful.
>there are schizos that probably spent most of the last 24 hours coming up with dozens of spammable shitposts for the DLC just so they could spam threads with it all day
What mental illness is this.
imagine paying $40 for a patch thats going to add all types of fricktarded things even more broken than bloodhound step was, only this time theres no chance of them even bothering to fix it since this is the last milking of their customers money. be sure to pay them in advance, gotta get your hands on that preorder gesture
I read some REALLY enthusiastic defenders of pre-ordering DLC on here earlier today... they didn't sound like advertisers either. Bleak!
So Dark Souls 2 wasn't contrarian enough, now the subhumans are spamming a forgotten shovelware PS2 game
Elden Ring is one of the best games ever made with the added bonus that it makes some of you homosexuals so mad and it's hilarious.
It made spiteful morons create a discord to falseflag threads and to malign it in the most pathetic way possible, so it obviously did lots of things right. From Software can't stop winning.
Nah, the game is medicore and will ruin From.
Let me marry your sister.
>It's just fricking dark world from Zelda, or the difference between BOTW and TOTK. Same overall map, but different dungeons and enemies. It's so fricking obvious.
Thats what i thought too and was taken aback that no one else thought that. Because clearly we saw an alternate version of rennala which means we get to go to that big lake again, and that other guy has a snake themeing like rykard.
Tbh i thought it was an alternate time but thats been confirmed not to be the case.
The built up castle areas just look like asset flips of Leyndell and Farum Azula
I just want it to be challenging. I like learning a boss's moveset, like you have to for Sekiro.
Being able to brute force all the game's bosses with 101 different cheese mechanics takes away from the fun.
>just the dark world
That may be so and I fricking love it. Seethe.
>WAHHH ITS JUST BOTW TO TOTK ALL OVER AGAIN
So... One amazing game to another all over again? Sweet.
Colossal Katanas confirmed.
Nobody cares Fromshart
this is the discord raid thread, post on the real one
what if...instead of an engaging, inter-connected world, we had a big world map with nothing to do besides gaslighting people on the internet into thinking there is enjoyable content inside
>NOOOOOO IT'S NOT ENJOYABLE, YOU DIDN'T ENJOY IT YOU DIDN'T YOU DIDN'T YOU DIDN'T YOU DIDN'T *dilates furiously*
how many times have you jerk offd to misschalice today?
>literal, actual schizophrenic ravings
literally who
If From makes another game in the same vein as Elden Ring, a game with Souls gameplay set in an open world, I probably won't be interested if it does the same "dead or dying world that is a plaything of the gods" thing that ER and the Souls games do. They have got to put more than random squads of jobbers in the overworld to get me to play another one of these. The only way I'm playing another open world of theirs is if they set out to make a LIVING world and not a dead or dying one, basically.
They won't, ER is a one and done affair. If Miyazaki didn't make it blatantly clear in the DaS 3 DLC, he wants to do original IPs and make new games.
>If Miyazaki didn't make it blatantly clear
He didnt, considering whenever he makes a new IP it's just a name change from what the previous titles were
He did, he is also known for exploring the same concepts through different lenses and has made a career out of it. His games share similar premises and themes, but are distinctively different in how they explore them and what the specifics are.
Elden Ring was different, the fact that GRRM had a big role in the writing process and that he collaborated with Martin makes it different than Dark Souls. It is really reductive to say "it's just more Dark Souls".
>Elden Ring was different, the fact that GRRM had a big role in the writing process and that he collaborated with Martin makes it different than Dark Souls. It is really reductive to say "it's just more Dark Souls".
I can't say I agree with this at all as someone who has read a couple of his books and has played Dark Souls. Elden Ring is Dark Souls 4 with GRRM's name slapped onto it as far as I'm concerned.
He did make it blatantly clear in that DLC, but then he went and made Elden Ring. I don't trust Bandai Namco to not make some kind of successor to Elden Ring happen at some point in the future regardless of what he's saying.
>LIVING world and not a dead or dying one
One of Elden Ring's biggest problems in a nutshell It was fine in Demon souls It was fine in Dark souls after that it got really old really quickly.
That and you can't save anyone or anything, nonsense.
I'm glad you agree! Elden Ring feels like From beating the frick out of an extremely dead horse to me in multiple senses of the word "dead." They've thrown so many "memento mori"s at me at this point that I know death like the back of my hand.
I want to see more human stories from them like we saw in Armored Core VI and Sekiro.
Plot-wise I think they've successfully made me fricking hate the very idea of a dying world now. It's actually gotten to the point of self-parody. I remember rolling my eyes a bit at DS2 doing the same fricking thing again, but oh man ER just took it to the next level.
Like, guys, find another excuse to not have NPC villages and cities alright? Surely you can come up with something.
no, dear traveler, the reason these extremely screenshottable and painterly vistas are uninhabited is because... le gods and their holographic tree! you are the meat in the sandwich this time dooooood! fricking give me a break.
>2 years for the same copy paste
I wish this company to get bankrupt or China turns it into a gacha factory to end its miserable existence.
...said the tendie as it bought yet another Mario "game"
the trailer did nothing for me tbqh lads
I was fricking filtered by the base game. I found it way beyond my abilities, the first major boss (the one guarding the entrance to the castle in the first area) already made me use spirit ashes and it continued for every other one. I can't imagine how difficult the DLC is going to be.
>spirit ashes
YOU DIDN'T BEAT THE GAME YOU DIDN'T BEAT THE GAME YOU DIDN'T BEAT THE GAME AIIIIIEEEEEE SOMEONE CALL THE PVPOLICE CALL THE CIA CALL THE PRESIDENT *shits pants*
You jest, but I think the game never finds a ground between the 'too easy' gameplay where you summon a spirit and use OP spells/AoWs and 'too hard' where tons of bosses are agile as hell and a single hit takes 60% of your health. Difficulty was never the focus of DeS and DS1, but I feel like it started to become one during DS2 and after.
the early game is the hardest part because you have barely and flasks or upgrade materials. and your spirit summons will suck too. shortly after that though you just get TOO overpowered until about the endgame when the bosses just get obnoxious because of 20 hit combos and comically delayed attacks that dEfiY yOuR eXpEcTaTiOnS
>the early game is the hardest part because you have barely and flasks or upgrade materials
I don't know, the game is designed to beat certain areas with only certain upgrades and flasks and it's always implied by the items in the areas whether you should upgrade or if you're good to go, regular enemies and dungeon bosses are easy but the main ones always kicked my ass (with the exception of Rennala) no matter how strong my character was.
>regular enemies and dungeon bosses are easy but the main ones always kicked my ass (with the exception of Rennala) no matter how strong my character was.
That means your build sucks, your upgrades aren't adequate and that you should explore more for better weapons/equipment and lvl up.
Is this the George R.R. collaboration From was harping about post-covid? I don't trust From after what comes after Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree despite others' experiences with From's games.
I'm not even through the original yet
The game is long as shit. I seriously have no idea how someone could play through this game multiple times back to back.
they avoid the copy paste dungeons
im assuming the dlc took so long because they read all the criticism about the open world in these threads and had to adjust accordingly. they know the open world was a bust, so for the dlc they are making a ds1 style undead burg to make amends with the fans they lost starting with dark souls 2.
you assumed incorrectly
If it's just "Elden Ring 1.5 but with Dark Souls world design" and that's why they had to make separate progression I'll forgive them and buy it. At least that would be an admission that they fricked up with the open world.
The DLC will most certainly have a open-world styled area just like the base game, it wouldn't make sense otherwise. Easily the worst part of the game, it feels just as static as the ones in crap like Cyberpunk, nothing about them feels real.
I'm expecting a MGSV situation as well, where there's a second overworld to run around in
>dragons used to rule the world
>overthrown by current rulers
>world dead
>rulers are now husks of former glory
>meddling by some higher power
yep its a from software game
They've already confirmed that the map is entirely new and blends overworld areas seamlessly into legacy dungeons in a much more refined way than the base game. It's guaranteed 11/10 GOATed, which isn't a surprise since ER was the best game of the last decade.
>last decade.
>2022
>2024 - 10 = 2022
lol moron
>Gets called a moron
>Posts a selfie
pottery
“The past decade” means the past 10 years you fricking ESL, so since 2014. It’s not rigid blocks like 2011-2020.
Cope
>last decade was 22 years ago
I want to do a magic knight build with a halberd and St. Trina's sword. What halberd should I use?
ER wasnt designed for souls vets. it was 100% designed purely with a normalhomosexual's first playthru in mind. the game is unbearable to replay on ng+ cycles because quite literally half the time you are riding the horse and having 0 fun. people fell in love with the original souls games because you could run through the games relatively quickly, but still get a few invasions in while doing it and fighting harder and harder versions of the bosses. ER removed all of that by forcing insufferable world traversal on you while removing most of the fun of the invasions mechanic.
no one cares homosexual
you care a lot about posting. you're in every single ER thread I read on Ganker!
the horse riding is Miyazaki telling you to chill and pull out your Spotify 🙂 listen to some lofi or audiobooks
DaS 1 Remastered exists for people like you.
That is the plain truth. It's an "enhanced" port of a good game that's pretty old at this point. You are mad because you played ER before any of the other games, aren't you?
>You are mad because you played ER before any of the other games, aren't you?
If you're talking to me, not to the guy I replied to (assuming you are not the same person), I started with DaS 1 back in 2014.
>riding a horse is zero fun
Jesus Christ.
When all you're doing is holding forward and tapping the sprint button every 2 seconds, yeah it's not fun. Might as well be in a loading screen.
i get it - you are a mouthbreather who is too low iq to discern the gameplay systems for what they are, and instead get "immersed" in the simulation. im glad that games like elden ring exist for simpletons like you, however i enjoyed the original souls games because of the gameplay meta, not picking up different palette swaps of flowers and fecal matter while pretending im on a digital adventure inside my tv screen
>i enjoyed the original souls games because of the gameplay meta
lmao i'm glad FS killed pvp for subhumans like you
it's a single player game
I think Miquella will just turn evil if you killed Malenia
>I think Miquella will just turn evil if you killed Malenia
I'd be fine with it being an optional boss fight like that. I'm just tired of them making cool characters only to kill them off.
I'd have to agree with that guy, specifically about the horse riding in ER. I just don't think they did a very good job with making Torrent feel fun to ride around on, and the fights where I rode around on him all felt kinda samey.
Vertical traversal on Torrent feels dumb. Game would have been more fun if they handled vertical travel by just reusing the grappling hook from Sekiro or including some sort of ladder consumable, shit I don't know. I'm a long-time fan of the Souls series and will readily admit to being overly critical of this game, but at the same time I do think that the final product exhibits a lot of missed potential.
>removing most of the fun of the invasions mechanic.
PvP homosexuals get wrecked
Is anyone else unable to read the phrase "legacy dungeon" without cracking a smile? What a completely hilarious concept, "legacy dungeon." The parts of the game that actually adhere to the series' established legacy and aren't cheaply bolted on open world dogshit, the "legacy dungeons."
At least 15 gb of that are new reskins of erdtree avatars and tree sentinels, now with double the delayed attacks and automatic dodging whenever you cast.
I last played Elden Ring during one of the most stressful periods of my life and didnt beat it or get super far/haven't touchedi t since
Should i try it again, idk if i have the patience anymore for the hard bosses
yeah, game's great
>Shazamtroons started making their shitty raid threads the second the trailer dropped
Why do they do this? They do know that it's going to sell millions and be a massive success right? Do they enjoy being laughed at?
>Sekiro didnt get shit
they better be making a sekiro 2
>sekiro 2
enjoy riding thru its boring open world on your prosthetic rooster
Wanting more =/= thinking you actually need more.
I know that sekiro is a perfect little experience but the combat is toogood to be put to rest anon...
More would ruin it, but exploring a similar combat style in a new IP would be cool.
make it some swashbuckling stupid pirate game or some shit i dont care
HELL yeah, I'd play that shit. just rip of pirates of the caribbean and make the davy jones mythos fromsoft
that would be cool as hell
it would just be grimdark one piece wouldn't it. god that would be sick
next soulsborne game be on the pirate age, with fishman pirates and sawfish swords and all that cool stuff, and mid way through the game you stumble into a lost aztec kingdom in the jungle, where they do cosmic ritual sacrifices to eldrich gods
>next soulsborne game
who wants to tell him?
We've had leaks about it, it's coming.
So the Risen games but with good samples? Hmmmm
Good gameplay*
They won't make cause you can't depict brown people as evil barbarians now a days without pushback.
Imagine having crazy pirate sea bases as dungeons, and a world kinda like wind waker but with more shit in it. That would be pretty kino.
hire us
I'm fricking getting a huge creative boner over here thinking about like, Captain Havershanks and the Last Fleet getting lost at the edge of Hieratic Septagon or what the frick ever
the player is the last surviving brewmaster of the legendary grog that Captain Havershanks NEEDS to beat Davy Jones in that drinking contest! :O
he must journey to the edge of the Sullen Sea and seek out the secrets of the Hieratic Septagon, for the low low price of $59.99
SHIVER ME TIMBERS
Nintendo should hire me and give me b***hes to frick.
spamming r1 at pirates instead of knights. sounds incredible
THE HUNT FOR DAVY JONES, ARRRRR!
I'd rather they pull a new Tenchu game out of their asses than make a new Sekiro game any time soon.
If you're open to older games, Tenchu will feel a lot like Sekiro 0.5 depending on what you enjoyed about Sekiro.
It would be completely unnecessary but I wish we could pet torrent. Maybe even have some invisible friendship-o-meter depending how well you treat Torrent. If you mistreat it and feed it very little, then it would even refuse to get summoned at times or something.
I wish we could customize Torrent with armor and shit
Or get other mounts, a Direwolf would be cool as shit
Yeah, that too. It's a wasted opportunity even if only cosmetic in nature. Being able to mount wolves, bears or some other creature would be fricking cool.
I presume most people would think that the time and resources would be better spent on something else in the game. Having Torrent behave more like Agro from SotC would be nice. For example, eating berries while you're dismounted or Torrent taking its sweet time to answer your call.
>Torrent taking its sweet time to answer your call.
If that was a thing you gays would be complaining too
Go back moron
>If that was a thing you gays would be complaining too
I would not. I like that kind of stuff in video games. Think about how many interesting situations that could put the player in, being surprisingly unable to escape from a tough encounter, or hopping onto Torrent's back as he catches up to you while you escape.
You lack imagination! You are a dummy.
There's subhumans complaining about sprint ITT
also just see how Gankereddit complains about RDR2
I'm pretty sure you're replying to one of the subhumans, because I'm
and
. Did I really say anything particularly disagreeable about thoughtless sprinting mechanics in video games?
Gets mad at the truth
I don't think that's an unreasonable ask at all. Just, like, any gameplay at all beyond Dark Souls 3: Open World Edition would be nice.
Ashes of War alone mogs all other soulsborne gameplay
Okay yeah, ashes of war is sick. It's a very smart iteration on the enchanting and infusing mechanics that also manages to integrate weapon arts and allow you to swap all of that on the fly. that is the best thing this game does.
but the level design, the themes and the presentation just feel like more of the same to me, personally, and the open world game design feels incredibly half-baked.
I think the point is to reach the Erdtree, it doesn't want a ton of different ideas or wildly different ages at this point, it has something that it engineers and works toward by the GW's design. Proof of this is how Ranni knew she couldn't achieve the age she wanted if she were to become the next Goddess of the next age, she'd still be doing what the Two Fingers tells her the GW wants her to do. Things like the Fell Curse mending that spreads omen stuff everywhere is going backwards from what the GW wants. Souls won't be going to the Erdtree anymore without grace, the tree won't even matter, not having souls linked to the religion is definitely not what the GW wants.
Can't believe they're finally adding a shadow of the erdtree.
i cant wait to spam jump attack at all the new enemies. will be so exciting to see if it takes 1 or 2 jump attacks to kill them before reaching the boss
finna be honest with you brehs, I aint paying 40 dollars for any DLC
blood and wine might have been worth that price tag doevgmp4
zoomer mentality thinking expansions are not worth paying money for because they are downloaded on the internet.
>its not dlc dad, its an expansion!
lmfao
I would love it, but it's not gonna be the case here sadly.
I got completed turned off from playing this, ofc this dlc it's the classic From style but
>if, roll a new chara way
>could be fun to play something new from my old play though
>holy shit I need to play till mogh
>holy frick I can't even skip all the filler shit (unlike sekiro) because I need upgrade materials for weapon/armor etc
>I need to follow a guide if I wanna a certain equip because this shit is just too much to remember
>there was a katana in a cathacomb. well frick
>if, use my old end game chara
>I don't even remember how to fricking play
>let's hope to not be gated out by a frickin chimera
>let me at least reroll stat and change some equip
>ah I can + only up to a point because le frickin rare upgrades
>let me at least reroll stat
You can, moron
Maybe learn to read. But since you can't read you can't follow my tip, a shame
>dark souls 3.5 again
can't wait to roll into attacks and hear about zanzibart
did you know that zanzibart fricking died dude? doesn't that trip you out?
Did he forgive dark knight Wultrik the unforgiven before passing away? Vaati made a video yet?
i hope we get another catacombs that teleports you to an even worse catacombs that you cant fast travel out of so you just die to get back to the exit. only then will i get my moneys worth
Why did they make miquella look like a hot little girl
this is what happens when you take feedback from twitter
Because its hotter that way
Because Miyazaki is a man of culture.