it's the best DMC since 3 I really don't see the issue, I think it's peak of the franchise character wise. Vergil in full cheesy ass power rangers villain mode is pretty glorious to behold and Dante stabbing himself was kino.
Full Power Vergil is the payoff the series needed. I don't really think continuing beyond this will do anyone any favors. It's like Season 4 of Babylon 5. Just leave it there.
We still need a game of Nero actually being the protector of the human world while Dante and Vergil travel through Hell to kill Mundus' and find out what happened to Sparda.
We don't need any of that, you want more that's fine but there's hardly a need. Not every question about a setting needs to be answered. Sparda is a far larger figure through the mystery surrounding him than what he'd be if he was actually put in a game
Yeah, I remember feeling just a tiny bit underwhelmed during the bit Sparda DT moment. The music did most of the work. Not to downplay that fricking organ, no sir, but you get my point.
>peak of the franchise character wise
Character development for Vergil was better in 3.
5 makes it super awkward at least until future games choose to address it or not to know that Vergil did sort of commit mass murder and just went pic related.
Then again V serves to show a side of Vergil that we didn't see before but that isn't explored far enough seeing as how he will never ever come back.
Dante also didn't have as much development as he did in 3. Hard to beat a coming of age story, I guess.
>Vergil did sort of commit mass murder and just went pic related.
To be fair, he ends the story heading off to hell to seal it off and then just kill demons and protect the gate. Seems like a fair way to start making amends.
Also, technically he didn't do anything bad during 5, that was Urizen, and if he counts as Vergil then so does V, who was already working to save people and stop the bad guy.
DMCV plot was shit nero being Vergil son was forced and out of character they should have made nero be the last piece of vergil soul or even better nero is yamato. I liked the references and the tone of the game, which DMC has always been good at (DMC2 and DMC Devil May Cry being the exceptions).
>game makes lame deadbat dad jokes >next game will have emotional father and son moments like gow ragnarok
it's just lame and out of character a nero arc about difficulties in feeling like a human would be better than it ended up being a story of a Nero who never kind of cared about his father now it's emotional about it
No denying that one, yet him helping right the effects of his wrongs by closing the hellgate and then fighting to prevent any further demonic uprisings seems like the right thing to do and the best way to start making up for things that I could figure.
>walk 3 feet >cutscene >do half a combo >cutscene >walk 5 feet >cutscene that starts another cutscene >do half a combo >cutscene
If it was any other series it would be completely dogshit. The cutscenes however are good and fun to watch.
Why even mention this as an issue if they are skippable?
The game doesn't ever take control away from the player during gameplay.
Cutscenes are the way its meant to be done, if the player wants to watch and enjoy they are allowed to do that, but if they just want to play they press a button and they are back to playing the game.
Am I a transphobe for refusing to date a trans woman? I respect their identity but I'm a veganasexual and always will be. (and only REAL veganas, not axe wounds) I also don't want to make contact with anyone's penis but my own.
DMC5 is easily the worst game in the series; people gave it a free pass due to a ten years drought but once the honeymoon ended everyone realized it's worse than 2.
DMC peaked with 3, they cannot capture the magic again.
5 has some problems that can be subjective but the character assassination of Dante and Vergil combined with how it has been easily accepted by everyone makes it the worst DMC for me.
This guy is kinda right . Oldgays ignored the problems of 5 because it was the newest DMC after a long time.
you're probably samegayging but if not, don't even respond to such obvious fricking bait for fricks sake
you're probably samegayging but if not, don't even respond to such obvious fricking bait for fricks sake
>Dante is...LE WACKY WOO HOO PIZZAMAN DUDEBRO >Vergil is...LE MOTIVATIONAL PLASTIC-CHAIR MAN
I know it's hard for "easily excitable with zero standards" kind to understand the characterization of the twins in DMC3 but don't make an ass of yourselves.
I got like half way through before and moved on to something else, some goypass plus or whatever.
Got it again a few weeks ago and bounced off goliath after 2 tries and felt lame so I stopped again. I really dislike the devil breaker system because asking me to boo boo an arm on some trash mob does not jive with my general gaming playstyle. I have all the potions and scrolls and wands and grenades left at the end of a game and these things are frickin arms.
yeah what the frick is that dumb c**t talking about, V is unga bunga for sure but NERO??? the guy with all those breakers?? are you moronic? in order of complexity its dante > nero >= vergil
>3gay >bad bosses >3gay >gameplay limitations >3gay >"royal guard is too easy" >3gay >distant camera
the dude is a certified moron and the only halfway legitimate points he has are the only halfway legitimate points that anyone has ever brought against V since the game released
there's a reason every 5-related shitpost is LE MANJAW or the 4tism MUH INERTIA
it's meaningless drivel parroting
I'm a Vergil player, and the only difficulty I have run into is the extremely demanding timing of the JC. I can get the second one, but I can't get the third one. I had to download a mod to relax the timing and expand range of frames that allow input for the final one. I'm not sure what he means by "inertia" in this, though. Does he mean the hits don't feel like hits? Or what?
>speedrunner who unironically didnt know about jump cancelling and RG until 2 years ago
if you have the time look up his video on the history of DMC3 speedrunning, these morons thought mechanics people knew about and fully documented for 20+ years were groundbreaking discoveries.
this reminds of God of War speedrunning community when some random dude just playing the game had a game changing trick that lets you skip a large portion of the game
or super mario speedrunning where these autists have taken the game apart but didn't know about some basic stuff most nip players knew about
>no one will remember him when he dies alone >he says as he talks about a man he has never met in his life and yet knows enough about to have a conversation about him
You're such a moron
>whiny homosexual
And you, that chooses to disregard a guys entire discussion on a game just because he said something on a livestream that you didn't like, are not a whiny homosexual?
You dodging the question is good enough. You are just as much of a whiny homosexual.
I guess you were the guy in the chat getting roasted and couldn't handle it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
not dodgin anything gay,you did not question anything of value ad hominems are not valid arguments to answer to,you are defending a twink gay that has god complex lmao,and you were waiting for my response like the wienersucker you are,extra funny,good night,not responding to your pitiful response,no life loser.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>ad hominems
Let me make it clearer to you if you actually did not get the implication.
You said >don't listen to him he is a whiny homosexual
Your reasoning for him being a whiny homosexual made you out to be one yourself which is why I just applied your own logic and disregarded your opinion because you are a whiny homosexual yourself.
Also, what's so hard about putting a space between punctuation marks? Are you really that mad?
>realistic
EVERY TIME it's some gay who thinks dmc was supposed to be Final Fantasy animu shit when every game has had a grounded realistic style, inherited from RE.
Pretty sure he is just referring to the photo realism, DMC4 managed to still be colorful and have interesting looking environments while being high res.
As soon as you go photo realistic a lot of opportunity for good art design goes flying out of the window.
Just reading into his words though, who knows what he meant.
>As soon as you go photo realistic
Which is what the series always fricking was. The art director for 4 said it was the best they could do with the tech of the time. DMC1 was made with Resident Evil assets, it was designed with realism in mind like how RE emulates Hollywood movies.
>DMC3 game >I can't use half the mechanics because enemy design and difficulty balance is dogshit
Dante sandbox in DMC3 is great but since I can't use 100% of what the game offers even with style switcher it's not worth it and the guy speedrun a game that isn't a speedgame at all
I only played 3 shortly before 5 and I'm amazed people hold it in such high regard. There's a good game there, but the enemy design across the board is bad to awful, it has shitty platforming sections, awkward camera angles,
The only parts I actually enjoyed are the Vergil fights and a select few bosses like Nevan. The story is good too but my constant feeling when I play it is "this is the game people say is the best in the genre?"
And I even replayed it on a new file on the switch port recently too and felt the exact same, only amplified.
DMC 5 with mods is kino.
There's a trainer mod that lets you >Make your own legendary knight mode by fricking with enemy numbers >Change the camera distance >Add visual filters >Fight dante and vergil at the same time in missions 19 or 20 >Multiplayer bloody palace >Other visual tweaks
Is there any game that doesn't get better with mods? Saying "DMCV with mods is kino" sounds redundant considering all mods strive to enhance the player's experience in some way.
5 was casualized beyond belief. It has given us endless entertainment in the form of zoomers going from 5 to 3 and getting their ass beat though so I won't completely shit on it.
>muh DMC5 was casualized!!
The DMC games are all piss easy, play Ninja Gaiden 2 if you want to play a difficult action game
DMC5 is the best in the series because it has the most depth, frick you all
I have no idea how gays can defend DMC4, it's such an awful fricking game to play, it has some of the worst, laziest campaigns in the series, Dante offers a lot of utility, but all the utilities he has are fricking boring, apart from style switching he is lazy, everything in this fricking game is lazy,. It has the worst, laziest art direction as well, going for a Final Fantasy-tier look that doesn't match DMC at all, no other DMC game looks so dull. Even the soundtrack is lazy, reusing DMC1's theme and making a shitty remix of it, creating the dullest battle theme in the series.
Most of the common guns are outright not fun to fight against, built around shitty gimmicks that mostly compliment Nero, if you are Dante they feel like a slug to play, every time those swords show up when I'm Dante I want to fricking kill myself.
DMC5 beats it in pretty much every fabric and if you think otherwise you're wrong objectively, this shitty game is only liked by tryhards who base their entire identity by the fact they can guard fly, well, more power to you, but I'd rather play DMC1/DMC3/DMC5 over it any day of the goddamn week, as they're well put together polished game that don't feel like they are held together by a goddamn glue.
Yes, it's better than DMC2, but the majority of games in the world are, if it wasn't for DMC2, DMC4 would be the worst, by far, easily.
>no other DMC game looks so dull
You guys always seem to forget that 3 takes place almost entirely in featureless empty gray rooms. It's even worse than 5 in that regard. 4 was unfocused and lost the gothic vibe but at least it had flair and variety. 1 was the only thoroughly good one aesthetically.
The tryhards that matter still love it. The others are just coping because DMC4 is now irrelevant, playing it gave them arthritis and all they have to show for it is a bunch of footage of them comboing a single basic mob.
>People who think DMC3 is anything but a 7/10 at best have never played it on DMD
I think DMC3 is the best game to play on a fresh save out of all the games. I sometimes do that, just a totally new run on normal.
It's really fun on normal, but it just becomes infuriating on DMD
Every enemy takes 60 hits to kill, you're forced to use DT explosion if you want to survive, and then there's the enemy design, which just sucks ass
Enigmas (they dash away from you and then instakill you), Fallen (they clip through fricking walls), Dullahans, Bloodgoyles (they split faster than you can kill them, and if they activate DT, it's game over), and Soul Eaters are all fricking terrible enemies
The 7 Hells, Arachne, and Abyss are all decent enemies that provide a decent challenge, but the other enemies are just fricking obnoxious
Then there's the shitty bosses like Arkham and Gigapede
It's just not fun, I beat it on DMD once and never touched it again
DMC HD collection apart from visual bugs also has annoying input and hit detection in DMC3 (could just be the result of the lag idk). When I played DMC HD certain more complicated inputs were a 50/50 whether they'd work. I don't remember this ever being an issue on PS2. It's not a case of selective memory either because in DMC4 SE and DMC5 I have nigh perfect accuracy.
>didn't edit trish at all
kek but seriously what the frick did they do to her in 5, she was perfect in 4, in 5 she looked like a way too mature hag trying to fight the wall, and losing
DMC5 models were based on real actors and her actress looks like this. It's not a case of uglyfying characters, the actress just looks like this. I think she looks fine.
no shit they're scanned actors, but no one is saying the scanned actors are ugly, at least I'm not, personally I still think 5 Lady looks hot and so does her actress, and Trish's model looks good as well, but they clearly fricked it up rendering Trish's model ingame, her face is weirdly longer and just generally worse than the actual model
5 months ago
Anonymous
she looks the same, it's a combination of makeup, lighting and hairstyle
you are right though, capcom did frick it up a bit in that regard
they probably spent the most time on the 4 main guys who are hot as frick (and nico)
5 months ago
Anonymous
>she looks the same >you are right though
which is it? learn to concede a fricking point it's not rocket science, she looks different
5 months ago
Anonymous
she looks the same as in the topology of her face is identical but the lighting, makeup and hairstyle change your perception of her for the worse
it is still clearly identifiable as the same person but her beauty is diminished by imperfect translation from real life to video game which other characters did not suffer from or at least not to the same degree
if a woman fricks up her makeup and has a bad photo taken she doesn't suddenly become a different person and start looking differently
agreeing with a single point does not mean I'm conceding
how much more verbose do I have to make it for you?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Capcom got fooled by her shopped insta pics and they already signed a contract when they realized she's ugly irl
i don't have to prove anything to you homosexual. they look ugly to me. i'm rewarding this behavior. that's all i posted. stay assblasted you turboBlack person
Artstyle aside, DMC5 is the best game in the series. The only people that hate it are combo autists that spent 10 years learning how to get the most out of 4's system and hate change.
These are the same people who had autistic meltdowns over the guard flying glitch being removed from DMC5 and went back to DMC4 because they are joyless husks who can only drill the same muscle memory for 20 years until they are the biggest fish in an unbelievably tiny pond. Literally speedrunner tier.
>no inertia
DMC5 has inertia, just on very few moves.
For 95% of applications inertia had in DMC4, DMC5 allows direct control instead
The only major use of inertia in 4 is Bunny Hopping, which is a pointless flourish in 99% of cases.
And it doesn't even look particularly cool. It's viewed as "cool" because it's effectively notorious and iconic.
That is because somewhat tricky to initiate consistently, as well as the fact it looks and behaves not like something in DMC4 should behave.
So the "coolness" factor is entirely reversed.
People perceive it as cool because they think it's cool, not because it actually looks cool. >no reversals
There are. Again, applications are limited, but you can change directions on most Cavalier moves.
Some moves can fulfill the functional role of reversals, so it's not really limiting the combo potential here. >RG too easy
RG is easier to use casually but it's objectively more difficult to use perfectly compared to DMC3 and 4, as it's harder to "cheat" the Royal version of Block and Release.
In 3 not only did you have a frickhuge perfect block window, but you could also roll into a perfect block. Or jump, if the hitbox was high enough.
In 4, the window is very short but you can cancel virtually everything, including jumps and Trickster moves, allowing you to effortlessly i-frame into a perfect block or release.
Basically, the vast majority of complaints combo autists (with all due respect) have can be summed up as >it's different
No shit, yeah, it's different.
It's a different game.
And instead of crying and complaining, you could just learn the new game and not try and turn it into a copy of the old game.
DMC4 had plenty of mechanical differences when compared to 3, but you did adapt, didn't you?
The insane arsenal DMC5 provides you with gives you several orders of magnitude more options than anything you could've done before.
And we only scratched the surface of the "advanced tech" in DMC5.
Tech is still getting discovered several years later, it's fine that you don't care about the scene but why embarrass yourself with something obviously false?
Tech on its own is useless without applications in actual gameplay, you have 5 minutes to show me someone using the faust glitch in real gameplay.
Off the top of my head, there are Balrog's quasi-distortion on Ignition, and Cavalier's Gear persistence through combos made of direct cancels.
Both - and especially the latter - enable combos that would be impossible to do otherwise.
Both I learned from an anon posting in these threads.
To discover advanced tech you have to look for advanced tech.
It took years for stuff to be discovered in DMC4, and it was still fairly "quick" because the arsenal in that game is somewhat limited.
Meanwhile, in 5, people don't even have enough proficiency in all the tech you can see in the skill menu yet, so there is less incentive to be looking for something extra.
I understand that you're just being moronic but I wanted to give you a proper answer still.
>Tech is still getting discovered several years later
5 months ago
Anonymous
Why are you quoting someone else?
Did you think Anonymous is a name?
5 months ago
Anonymous
So uh... What is your point? That you've been playing the game for almost 5 years and only recently managed to learn some entry level "tech"? Not even on your own (someone had to spoonfeed you)...?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, I understand that you are genuinely moronic, so I'll explain it to you like you are five (which is clearly above your mental age, I'm very sorry about that).
The statement was: >There is no "advanced" "tech" in dmc "5".
The response was two examples of advanced tech in DMC5, thus proving the initial statement objectively wrong.
It also fits within your moronic demands of >applications in actual gameplay
down the line, because both of the examples are very practical.
Everything else you say is some pointless cope and seethe.
If you meant something else than what you said, you should've said what you meant, you dumb frick.
5 months ago
Anonymous
That's not advanced tech. You haven't even provided me a proof of anyone actually using it in their regular gameplay.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>That's not advanced tech.
On whose authority?
It's a tech, it's more advanced than the baseline as it's not explained anywhere in-game.
I.e. it's advanced tech. >You haven't even provided me a proof of anyone actually using it in their regular gameplay.
I do, now what?
The Cavalier's gear thing is massively combo-enabling as it allows you to chain attacks that normally wouldn't.
Why the frick do you need a "proof" when it's so clear and cut?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I do, now what?
You have 10 minutes to find me at least 20 more players who use it. Then you all have to launch DMC 5 and casually play through a few missions/BP floors all while using your epic reddit tech. Make sure to record and upload on youtube.
Shouldn't be hard, after all there are thousands of videos where people guardfly in 4.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I-it doesn't count! >b-b-because I say so!!!
Cope and seethe, anon.
Cope and seethe.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>still no footage
5 months ago
Anonymous
>epic reddit tech
I love how the name of a website became yet another word turned into "something I hate and which triggers me".
Off the top of my head, there are Balrog's quasi-distortion on Ignition, and Cavalier's Gear persistence through combos made of direct cancels.
Both - and especially the latter - enable combos that would be impossible to do otherwise.
Both I learned from an anon posting in these threads.
To discover advanced tech you have to look for advanced tech.
It took years for stuff to be discovered in DMC4, and it was still fairly "quick" because the arsenal in that game is somewhat limited.
Meanwhile, in 5, people don't even have enough proficiency in all the tech you can see in the skill menu yet, so there is less incentive to be looking for something extra.
I understand that you're just being moronic but I wanted to give you a proper answer still.
>Um... you need to find a video on youtube!!
man dmc4gays really don't play their supposed favorite game, they just watch combo mads on youtube and jerk off to donguri videos
I understand why combogays hate it because it doesn't have the same inertia and physics but why do speedautists hate it? (Also speedrunning a game meant to be played stylishly lmao)
>(Also speedrunning a game meant to be played stylishly lmao)
This
I can understand watching something like hitman speedrun or other stealth game tbh. how the player can frick up npc's routine or some other shenanigans. Not to mention levels not being a linear corridor with killrooms locking you from advancing further. Dmc speedrun? BRUH
>Is DMC 5 the most divisive DMC game?
No.
DMC4 still is, by far.
Most people, normal people who like video games and don't base their opinions purely on the validation and internet cool points found on this shithole, think it's great.
All those games SUCK compared to that one epic reboot from over a decade ago. Great combo system, colorful graphics & stage designs, decent story about a devil falling in love and having kids with an angel, producing the 2 Nephilim siblings. Best DmC game of all time, IMO. Even iller than any of the God of War games on the PS3. It was a DAMN shame the critics (and fans as well) over-criticized it for being different and angsty. Like...it was a Western remake/reboot of a goofy Japanese action game and actually MADE IT GOOD.
Reboot has a lot of good ideas and great visuals I just thought it was too serious they should stick with the stuff from the opening and all that political stuff felt forced DMCV improves that game a lot
That dante penis joke people nitpicked that kind of thing but I liked the game should have kept that tone about the combat has great enemy design and dante sandbox could be better
I was so disappointed they didn't carry over "Must Style" mode and "No timer in Bloody Palace"
Objectively great additions that need to be part of the main series asap.
it's the best DMC since 3 I really don't see the issue, I think it's peak of the franchise character wise. Vergil in full cheesy ass power rangers villain mode is pretty glorious to behold and Dante stabbing himself was kino.
Full Power Vergil is the payoff the series needed. I don't really think continuing beyond this will do anyone any favors. It's like Season 4 of Babylon 5. Just leave it there.
Nah. Print this slop out, I want a real sequel, not DMC4.5, but slower and with microtransactions.
We still need a game of Nero actually being the protector of the human world while Dante and Vergil travel through Hell to kill Mundus' and find out what happened to Sparda.
We don't need any of that, you want more that's fine but there's hardly a need. Not every question about a setting needs to be answered. Sparda is a far larger figure through the mystery surrounding him than what he'd be if he was actually put in a game
Yeah, I remember feeling just a tiny bit underwhelmed during the bit Sparda DT moment. The music did most of the work. Not to downplay that fricking organ, no sir, but you get my point.
>peak of the franchise character wise
Character development for Vergil was better in 3.
5 makes it super awkward at least until future games choose to address it or not to know that Vergil did sort of commit mass murder and just went pic related.
Then again V serves to show a side of Vergil that we didn't see before but that isn't explored far enough seeing as how he will never ever come back.
Dante also didn't have as much development as he did in 3. Hard to beat a coming of age story, I guess.
>Vergil did sort of commit mass murder and just went pic related.
To be fair, he ends the story heading off to hell to seal it off and then just kill demons and protect the gate. Seems like a fair way to start making amends.
Also, technically he didn't do anything bad during 5, that was Urizen, and if he counts as Vergil then so does V, who was already working to save people and stop the bad guy.
DMCV plot was shit nero being Vergil son was forced and out of character they should have made nero be the last piece of vergil soul or even better nero is yamato. I liked the references and the tone of the game, which DMC has always been good at (DMC2 and DMC Devil May Cry being the exceptions).
>they should have made nero be the last piece of vergil soul or even better nero is yamato
Soulshard-fujo please
>game makes lame deadbat dad jokes
>next game will have emotional father and son moments like gow ragnarok
it's just lame and out of character a nero arc about difficulties in feeling like a human would be better than it ended up being a story of a Nero who never kind of cared about his father now it's emotional about it
What about the mass murder he did on purpose with the Temen-ni-gru?
No denying that one, yet him helping right the effects of his wrongs by closing the hellgate and then fighting to prevent any further demonic uprisings seems like the right thing to do and the best way to start making up for things that I could figure.
nico
Yes
Adding brown bayonetta and old man Rodin was weird
Are you implying Nico is brown Bayo?
It made me appreciate 4 a lot more, since 5 is just way too fricking easy.
4 is a homosexual game made for gay little kids
everyone who says dmc5 is easy played it on easy mode and never touched sos or dmd
S ranking 4 is much easier
>S ranking 4 is much easier
Faust is easier to exploit then DT distortion.
4 was easy as frick too
>walk 3 feet
>cutscene
>do half a combo
>cutscene
>walk 5 feet
>cutscene that starts another cutscene
>do half a combo
>cutscene
If it was any other series it would be completely dogshit. The cutscenes however are good and fun to watch.
Why even mention this as an issue if they are skippable?
The game doesn't ever take control away from the player during gameplay.
Cutscenes are the way its meant to be done, if the player wants to watch and enjoy they are allowed to do that, but if they just want to play they press a button and they are back to playing the game.
>3 feet
>5 feet
None of the characters that you play as have more than 2 feet, you moron.
Its just a good game with flaws that get ignored because its the one everyone latched onto. Its going to be the same shit with dragons dogma 2
Dante is the only cool one.
Yeah, and trans women are women.
Am I a transphobe for refusing to date a trans woman? I respect their identity but I'm a veganasexual and always will be. (and only REAL veganas, not axe wounds) I also don't want to make contact with anyone's penis but my own.
>Is DMC 5 the most divisive DMC game?
Only here because people are trying to reverse TORtanic it.
DMC5 is easily the worst game in the series; people gave it a free pass due to a ten years drought but once the honeymoon ended everyone realized it's worse than 2.
>maybe if I'm super contrarian people will think I'm super cool and tasteful
DMC peaked with 3, they cannot capture the magic again.
5 has some problems that can be subjective but the character assassination of Dante and Vergil combined with how it has been easily accepted by everyone makes it the worst DMC for me.
This guy is kinda right . Oldgays ignored the problems of 5 because it was the newest DMC after a long time.
>character assassination of Dante and Vergil
Cool story bro
you're probably samegayging but if not, don't even respond to such obvious fricking bait for fricks sake
>Dante is...LE WACKY WOO HOO PIZZAMAN DUDEBRO
>Vergil is...LE MOTIVATIONAL PLASTIC-CHAIR MAN
I know it's hard for "easily excitable with zero standards" kind to understand the characterization of the twins in DMC3 but don't make an ass of yourselves.
is...LE WACKY WOO HOO PIZZAMAN DUDEBRO
But enough about DMC3.
is...LE MOTIVATIONAL PLASTIC-CHAIR MAN
Yes.
What, the man's not allowed to take a fricking break? He just split himself in half and reconstituted. He's tired, you butthole.
Terrible bait but here's your (You).
>the game is already 5 bucks (converted from regional pricing) and I'm still not buying because I watched on Youtube
Sad. MAny such cases.
I got like half way through before and moved on to something else, some goypass plus or whatever.
Got it again a few weeks ago and bounced off goliath after 2 tries and felt lame so I stopped again. I really dislike the devil breaker system because asking me to boo boo an arm on some trash mob does not jive with my general gaming playstyle. I have all the potions and scrolls and wands and grenades left at the end of a game and these things are frickin arms.
Nero and V are just bad ungabunga characters.
But Dante and Vergil redeem the game.
Are you implying that Vergil is NOT a braindead unga bunga character?
yeah what the frick is that dumb c**t talking about, V is unga bunga for sure but NERO??? the guy with all those breakers?? are you moronic? in order of complexity its dante > nero >= vergil
Vergil is the easy to learn character with some serious payoff if you stay for mastery. At least, I think so.
>loathed by all sorts of tryhards, from combogays to speedrunners
I am 100% certain these are the people who enjoy it the most.
Wrong.
>literal who on twitter
>famous DMC speedrunner
>literal who
have a nice day
>caring about speedrunners
post your gameplay
>speedruning devil may cry
>famous DMC speedrunner
>literal who
Correct
>3gay
>bad bosses
>3gay
>gameplay limitations
>3gay
>"royal guard is too easy"
>3gay
>distant camera
the dude is a certified moron and the only halfway legitimate points he has are the only halfway legitimate points that anyone has ever brought against V since the game released
there's a reason every 5-related shitpost is LE MANJAW or the 4tism MUH INERTIA
it's meaningless drivel parroting
He's right about the gravity, and dmc 5 is too easy.
>He's right about the gravity,
read
>and dmc 5 is too easy.
no
>Is he wrong though?
yes
>Combo artists agree with him.
I don't care, he's moronic
Vergil is master duelist confirmed
Is he wrong though? Combo artists agree with him.
>Combo Artists
Can't believe Waifu was the 4gay all along.
>combo autists
Playing on PC undoes every single one of their issues.
>Fix the game yourself
What a shit game.
It's better than playing half a game which also needs mods to be a competent combogay game anyway.
I'm a Vergil player, and the only difficulty I have run into is the extremely demanding timing of the JC. I can get the second one, but I can't get the third one. I had to download a mod to relax the timing and expand range of frames that allow input for the final one. I'm not sure what he means by "inertia" in this, though. Does he mean the hits don't feel like hits? Or what?
I miss wallruns so much. Sucks too that the Bloody Palace in 3 has no walls so you can't use it there
>speedrunner who unironically didnt know about jump cancelling and RG until 2 years ago
if you have the time look up his video on the history of DMC3 speedrunning, these morons thought mechanics people knew about and fully documented for 20+ years were groundbreaking discoveries.
this reminds of God of War speedrunning community when some random dude just playing the game had a game changing trick that lets you skip a large portion of the game
or super mario speedrunning where these autists have taken the game apart but didn't know about some basic stuff most nip players knew about
>no breaker swapping
they called breakers for a reason
25:33
the dude is a whiny homosexual.
But is he wrong? No.
the same can be applied to him,no one will remember him when he dies alone.
>no one will remember him when he dies alone
>he says as he talks about a man he has never met in his life and yet knows enough about to have a conversation about him
You're such a moron
I'm sorry why do you think autism strats that skip half the game are relevant in a gameplay discussion? No one cares about that shit.
>whiny homosexual
And you, that chooses to disregard a guys entire discussion on a game just because he said something on a livestream that you didn't like, are not a whiny homosexual?
he is not gonna suck your wiener for being a whiteknight,homosexual.
You dodging the question is good enough. You are just as much of a whiny homosexual.
I guess you were the guy in the chat getting roasted and couldn't handle it.
not dodgin anything gay,you did not question anything of value ad hominems are not valid arguments to answer to,you are defending a twink gay that has god complex lmao,and you were waiting for my response like the wienersucker you are,extra funny,good night,not responding to your pitiful response,no life loser.
>ad hominems
Let me make it clearer to you if you actually did not get the implication.
You said
>don't listen to him he is a whiny homosexual
Your reasoning for him being a whiny homosexual made you out to be one yourself which is why I just applied your own logic and disregarded your opinion because you are a whiny homosexual yourself.
Also, what's so hard about putting a space between punctuation marks? Are you really that mad?
>realistic
EVERY TIME it's some gay who thinks dmc was supposed to be Final Fantasy animu shit when every game has had a grounded realistic style, inherited from RE.
Pretty sure he is just referring to the photo realism, DMC4 managed to still be colorful and have interesting looking environments while being high res.
As soon as you go photo realistic a lot of opportunity for good art design goes flying out of the window.
Just reading into his words though, who knows what he meant.
>As soon as you go photo realistic
Which is what the series always fricking was. The art director for 4 said it was the best they could do with the tech of the time. DMC1 was made with Resident Evil assets, it was designed with realism in mind like how RE emulates Hollywood movies.
>DMC3 game
>I can't use half the mechanics because enemy design and difficulty balance is dogshit
Dante sandbox in DMC3 is great but since I can't use 100% of what the game offers even with style switcher it's not worth it and the guy speedrun a game that isn't a speedgame at all
First off, I don't consider them "people"
I only played 3 shortly before 5 and I'm amazed people hold it in such high regard. There's a good game there, but the enemy design across the board is bad to awful, it has shitty platforming sections, awkward camera angles,
The only parts I actually enjoyed are the Vergil fights and a select few bosses like Nevan. The story is good too but my constant feeling when I play it is "this is the game people say is the best in the genre?"
And I even replayed it on a new file on the switch port recently too and felt the exact same, only amplified.
Alright, whats a better action game according to you?
DMC5.
DMC 5 with mods is kino.
There's a trainer mod that lets you
>Make your own legendary knight mode by fricking with enemy numbers
>Change the camera distance
>Add visual filters
>Fight dante and vergil at the same time in missions 19 or 20
>Multiplayer bloody palace
>Other visual tweaks
Is there any game that doesn't get better with mods? Saying "DMCV with mods is kino" sounds redundant considering all mods strive to enhance the player's experience in some way.
5 was casualized beyond belief. It has given us endless entertainment in the form of zoomers going from 5 to 3 and getting their ass beat though so I won't completely shit on it.
>seething
ball-less (not comparable)
(slang, literal or figurative) Without balls (testicles).
Synonym: testicleless
>muh DMC5 was casualized!!
The DMC games are all piss easy, play Ninja Gaiden 2 if you want to play a difficult action game
DMC5 is the best in the series because it has the most depth, frick you all
Master Ninja here... DMC 5 is kicking my ass on human difficulty.
There's one of the zoomers I was talking about. Look at him seethe, very entertaining as I said.
I too make up situations in my head so I can feel like a hardcore gaymer
discord sisters, the dragons dogma thread needs help, the bigots have pattern recognition!
>Devil Trigger kicks in
LET'SGO!!!!!!!!!!!
honestly.
3 > 1 > Anime > 4 > 5 > 2 is my enjoyment of the series so far. I fricking hate playing as Nero.
Maybe
It's just not as cool when you don't have to fight for your airtime. It's the same as Vergil in 4SE, the trick teleporting is extremely braindead
>casey edwards used for the gacha game
Oh, so that's what he was talking about, lame
I have no idea how gays can defend DMC4, it's such an awful fricking game to play, it has some of the worst, laziest campaigns in the series, Dante offers a lot of utility, but all the utilities he has are fricking boring, apart from style switching he is lazy, everything in this fricking game is lazy,. It has the worst, laziest art direction as well, going for a Final Fantasy-tier look that doesn't match DMC at all, no other DMC game looks so dull. Even the soundtrack is lazy, reusing DMC1's theme and making a shitty remix of it, creating the dullest battle theme in the series.
Most of the common guns are outright not fun to fight against, built around shitty gimmicks that mostly compliment Nero, if you are Dante they feel like a slug to play, every time those swords show up when I'm Dante I want to fricking kill myself.
DMC5 beats it in pretty much every fabric and if you think otherwise you're wrong objectively, this shitty game is only liked by tryhards who base their entire identity by the fact they can guard fly, well, more power to you, but I'd rather play DMC1/DMC3/DMC5 over it any day of the goddamn week, as they're well put together polished game that don't feel like they are held together by a goddamn glue.
Yes, it's better than DMC2, but the majority of games in the world are, if it wasn't for DMC2, DMC4 would be the worst, by far, easily.
>muh momentum
That's literally it.
I meant goons, not guns.
>if you are Dante they feel like a slug to play
Learn to play and use Pandora, Dante is faster and way stronger than Nero.
I think DMC4 had the best animations and sound design in the whole series. Especially when it came to swinging swords around.
>no other DMC game looks so dull
You guys always seem to forget that 3 takes place almost entirely in featureless empty gray rooms. It's even worse than 5 in that regard. 4 was unfocused and lost the gothic vibe but at least it had flair and variety. 1 was the only thoroughly good one aesthetically.
DMC3 > DMC5 = DMC1 >>>>>> DMC4 >>>>>>>>> DMC2
The tryhards that matter still love it. The others are just coping because DMC4 is now irrelevant, playing it gave them arthritis and all they have to show for it is a bunch of footage of them comboing a single basic mob.
>Is DMC 5 the most divisive DMC game?
Frick No
DmC isn't because everyone hates it.
This game deserves a sequel. Imagine if DMC stopped at one.
Nah everyone agrees it's bad.
People who think DMC3 is anything but a 7/10 at best have never played it on DMD
The enemy design is so fricking terrible
I agree doing SS is cancer but if you just go for completion or S rank then DMD is fine and it's a matter of skill issue
>People who think DMC3 is anything but a 7/10 at best have never played it on DMD
I think DMC3 is the best game to play on a fresh save out of all the games. I sometimes do that, just a totally new run on normal.
It's really fun on normal, but it just becomes infuriating on DMD
Every enemy takes 60 hits to kill, you're forced to use DT explosion if you want to survive, and then there's the enemy design, which just sucks ass
Enigmas (they dash away from you and then instakill you), Fallen (they clip through fricking walls), Dullahans, Bloodgoyles (they split faster than you can kill them, and if they activate DT, it's game over), and Soul Eaters are all fricking terrible enemies
The 7 Hells, Arachne, and Abyss are all decent enemies that provide a decent challenge, but the other enemies are just fricking obnoxious
Then there's the shitty bosses like Arkham and Gigapede
It's just not fun, I beat it on DMD once and never touched it again
This webm is 100% correct, though I'm curious what was so bad about the HD collection? Was it not just a port?
DMCHD felt fine to me then again I've never played the PS2 originals
The only flaws I've seen discussed are minor visual bugs/missing effects unfortunately common on PS2 -> HD console/PC conversions
DMC HD collection apart from visual bugs also has annoying input and hit detection in DMC3 (could just be the result of the lag idk). When I played DMC HD certain more complicated inputs were a 50/50 whether they'd work. I don't remember this ever being an issue on PS2. It's not a case of selective memory either because in DMC4 SE and DMC5 I have nigh perfect accuracy.
But This board said Reddit Defends that game. So which is it?
>4 higher than 1
Gay
I only care about dante
all i know is that i refuse to buy this game because of the ugly as shit women
So Trish specifically?
they all look ugly. the prostitute with tattoos too
>didn't edit trish at all
kek but seriously what the frick did they do to her in 5, she was perfect in 4, in 5 she looked like a way too mature hag trying to fight the wall, and losing
DMC5 models were based on real actors and her actress looks like this. It's not a case of uglyfying characters, the actress just looks like this. I think she looks fine.
no shit they're scanned actors, but no one is saying the scanned actors are ugly, at least I'm not, personally I still think 5 Lady looks hot and so does her actress, and Trish's model looks good as well, but they clearly fricked it up rendering Trish's model ingame, her face is weirdly longer and just generally worse than the actual model
she looks the same, it's a combination of makeup, lighting and hairstyle
you are right though, capcom did frick it up a bit in that regard
they probably spent the most time on the 4 main guys who are hot as frick (and nico)
>she looks the same
>you are right though
which is it? learn to concede a fricking point it's not rocket science, she looks different
she looks the same as in the topology of her face is identical but the lighting, makeup and hairstyle change your perception of her for the worse
it is still clearly identifiable as the same person but her beauty is diminished by imperfect translation from real life to video game which other characters did not suffer from or at least not to the same degree
if a woman fricks up her makeup and has a bad photo taken she doesn't suddenly become a different person and start looking differently
agreeing with a single point does not mean I'm conceding
how much more verbose do I have to make it for you?
Capcom got fooled by her shopped insta pics and they already signed a contract when they realized she's ugly irl
KEK post more
i don't have too many images
last one
TOPKEK
DMC6, 2026
trust the plan
>274
And so you edited them to prove your point?
No (you) for you
i don't have to prove anything to you homosexual. they look ugly to me. i'm rewarding this behavior. that's all i posted. stay assblasted you turboBlack person
* i'm not rewarding this behavior
nta but you seem mad yourself
cheer up crewcut
>Seething because it didn't get its (You)
Ahahaha
I want V to top me.
Shit taste
I find it really hot when the slim soft guy is the dominant one.
homosexual
>homosexual
For Dante
Dante is fine too
god I want to smother my face in Dante's pecs
Me too anon
Artstyle aside, DMC5 is the best game in the series. The only people that hate it are combo autists that spent 10 years learning how to get the most out of 4's system and hate change.
>giving a frick about what speedrunners think
Their problems are not problems. They need to grow up and move out of their parent's place, and go outside to touch grass and have sex.
Dante's model tho
LOVE DMC1
LOVE DMC3
LOVE DMC4
LOVE DMC5
'ATE DMC2
'ATE PEAK O COMBAT
DMC DMC IS ALRIGHT I GUESS (NOT ELITIST, JUST DONT LIKE IT)
LOVE ME COMBOS, LOVE ME DEVIL ARMS, LOVE ME GUNS
SMOKIN' SEXY STYLE! SIMPLE AS...
The only problem with DMCV is that Dante's 3 outfit isn't available as an alt costume.
I like DMC1
Is this the daily "try to change the narrative regarding beloved game series" thread? Cool. DMC this time? Awesome.
at least the ninja gaiden vs dmc false flagger isn't here
It's all so tiresome.
OP has been at it for almost 5 years now, newfriend
he mad
>DMC 5
>RE4
>Metal Gear Revengence
what's with the fun games where the creators said "frick it" that just infuriates Gankerirgins so badly?
Where's the FRICKING MULTIPLAYER BLOODY PALACE CAPCOM?
Also no Sparda costume, even in the special editions of the game, for shame.
BIGGER
*wubwubwubwub*
DICK
*WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB*
>dmc 5 was so fricking bad all high level players are abandoning it to play NG.
>one twitter nobody = everyone
>Master Collection (i.e Sigma)
He's not playing the real games.
Me behind Ryu
These are the same people who had autistic meltdowns over the guard flying glitch being removed from DMC5 and went back to DMC4 because they are joyless husks who can only drill the same muscle memory for 20 years until they are the biggest fish in an unbelievably tiny pond. Literally speedrunner tier.
Good, DMC is not an e-sport. Hopping everyday to beat up scarecrows in a BP trainer is not good for anyone's mental health.
>blaming 5
If this homosexual wanted to he'd be playing old dmc, but he didn't.
Twink Dante
>tfw no game where we play as teenage Dante
A few autistic morons yelling loudly does not everyone make.
Dante 1 was cute with that tan, why itsuno gotta go overboard with the sex appeal?
>no inertia
DMC5 has inertia, just on very few moves.
For 95% of applications inertia had in DMC4, DMC5 allows direct control instead
The only major use of inertia in 4 is Bunny Hopping, which is a pointless flourish in 99% of cases.
And it doesn't even look particularly cool. It's viewed as "cool" because it's effectively notorious and iconic.
That is because somewhat tricky to initiate consistently, as well as the fact it looks and behaves not like something in DMC4 should behave.
So the "coolness" factor is entirely reversed.
People perceive it as cool because they think it's cool, not because it actually looks cool.
>no reversals
There are. Again, applications are limited, but you can change directions on most Cavalier moves.
Some moves can fulfill the functional role of reversals, so it's not really limiting the combo potential here.
>RG too easy
RG is easier to use casually but it's objectively more difficult to use perfectly compared to DMC3 and 4, as it's harder to "cheat" the Royal version of Block and Release.
In 3 not only did you have a frickhuge perfect block window, but you could also roll into a perfect block. Or jump, if the hitbox was high enough.
In 4, the window is very short but you can cancel virtually everything, including jumps and Trickster moves, allowing you to effortlessly i-frame into a perfect block or release.
Basically, the vast majority of complaints combo autists (with all due respect) have can be summed up as
>it's different
No shit, yeah, it's different.
It's a different game.
And instead of crying and complaining, you could just learn the new game and not try and turn it into a copy of the old game.
DMC4 had plenty of mechanical differences when compared to 3, but you did adapt, didn't you?
The insane arsenal DMC5 provides you with gives you several orders of magnitude more options than anything you could've done before.
And we only scratched the surface of the "advanced tech" in DMC5.
>The only major use of inertia in 4 is Bunny Hopping
*with no equivalent in 5
The actual major application of inertia in 4 that wasn't just pointless is directional Rainstorm, which is something you can just do in DMC5.
There is no "advanced" "tech" in dmc "5".
Tech is still getting discovered several years later, it's fine that you don't care about the scene but why embarrass yourself with something obviously false?
Tech on its own is useless without applications in actual gameplay, you have 5 minutes to show me someone using the faust glitch in real gameplay.
These were discovered years ago buddy.
>These were discovered years ago buddy.
And?
>Tech is still getting discovered several years later
Why are you quoting someone else?
Did you think Anonymous is a name?
So uh... What is your point? That you've been playing the game for almost 5 years and only recently managed to learn some entry level "tech"? Not even on your own (someone had to spoonfeed you)...?
Anon, I understand that you are genuinely moronic, so I'll explain it to you like you are five (which is clearly above your mental age, I'm very sorry about that).
The statement was:
>There is no "advanced" "tech" in dmc "5".
The response was two examples of advanced tech in DMC5, thus proving the initial statement objectively wrong.
It also fits within your moronic demands of
>applications in actual gameplay
down the line, because both of the examples are very practical.
Everything else you say is some pointless cope and seethe.
If you meant something else than what you said, you should've said what you meant, you dumb frick.
That's not advanced tech. You haven't even provided me a proof of anyone actually using it in their regular gameplay.
>That's not advanced tech.
On whose authority?
It's a tech, it's more advanced than the baseline as it's not explained anywhere in-game.
I.e. it's advanced tech.
>You haven't even provided me a proof of anyone actually using it in their regular gameplay.
I do, now what?
The Cavalier's gear thing is massively combo-enabling as it allows you to chain attacks that normally wouldn't.
Why the frick do you need a "proof" when it's so clear and cut?
>I do, now what?
You have 10 minutes to find me at least 20 more players who use it. Then you all have to launch DMC 5 and casually play through a few missions/BP floors all while using your epic reddit tech. Make sure to record and upload on youtube.
Shouldn't be hard, after all there are thousands of videos where people guardfly in 4.
>I-it doesn't count!
>b-b-because I say so!!!
Cope and seethe, anon.
Cope and seethe.
>still no footage
>epic reddit tech
I love how the name of a website became yet another word turned into "something I hate and which triggers me".
Off the top of my head, there are Balrog's quasi-distortion on Ignition, and Cavalier's Gear persistence through combos made of direct cancels.
Both - and especially the latter - enable combos that would be impossible to do otherwise.
Both I learned from an anon posting in these threads.
To discover advanced tech you have to look for advanced tech.
It took years for stuff to be discovered in DMC4, and it was still fairly "quick" because the arsenal in that game is somewhat limited.
Meanwhile, in 5, people don't even have enough proficiency in all the tech you can see in the skill menu yet, so there is less incentive to be looking for something extra.
I understand that you're just being moronic but I wanted to give you a proper answer still.
No you don't understand I NEED to only be able to move in the air using moronic glitches.
>playing a series from a company that hates you
>Um... you need to find a video on youtube!!
man dmc4gays really don't play their supposed favorite game, they just watch combo mads on youtube and jerk off to donguri videos
I understand why combogays hate it because it doesn't have the same inertia and physics but why do speedautists hate it? (Also speedrunning a game meant to be played stylishly lmao)
>(Also speedrunning a game meant to be played stylishly lmao)
This
I can understand watching something like hitman speedrun or other stealth game tbh. how the player can frick up npc's routine or some other shenanigans. Not to mention levels not being a linear corridor with killrooms locking you from advancing further. Dmc speedrun? BRUH
>Is DMC 5 the most divisive DMC game?
No.
DMC4 still is, by far.
Most people, normal people who like video games and don't base their opinions purely on the validation and internet cool points found on this shithole, think it's great.
All those games SUCK compared to that one epic reboot from over a decade ago. Great combo system, colorful graphics & stage designs, decent story about a devil falling in love and having kids with an angel, producing the 2 Nephilim siblings. Best DmC game of all time, IMO. Even iller than any of the God of War games on the PS3. It was a DAMN shame the critics (and fans as well) over-criticized it for being different and angsty. Like...it was a Western remake/reboot of a goofy Japanese action game and actually MADE IT GOOD.
Reboot has a lot of good ideas and great visuals I just thought it was too serious they should stick with the stuff from the opening and all that political stuff felt forced DMCV improves that game a lot
>should stick with the stuff from the opening and all that political stuff felt forced
Game starts with Mundus threatening a President....
That dante penis joke people nitpicked that kind of thing but I liked the game should have kept that tone about the combat has great enemy design and dante sandbox could be better
>it was too serious
nani
I was so disappointed they didn't carry over "Must Style" mode and "No timer in Bloody Palace"
Objectively great additions that need to be part of the main series asap.
I actually think the "hold trigger to change weapon" was a mechanic V could have used for additional summons.
>Ue3 game on soap station 3
Pepega
by normies
by all sorts of tryhards, from combogays to speedrunners
got proof, Barry?
*Saves Nero devil breaker design*
Capcom hire this man