Yes don't believe what other people tell you, as long as you paid a one time fee for a game and not a recurring subscription you legally own your games, they are a good not a service. The "you don't own your games" thing people are referring to is the fact that when you buy Half Life your not buying the rights to the Half Life franchise and the ability to duplicate and resell it.
Steam will only ever completely ban an account for doing literally illegal shit. You could go to the forums post Black person and you'd just be forum banned but still have access to your games. If steam shuts down they or the company that sold you the game would have a legal requirement to allow you to somehow play your game. Gebe Newell already stated that if steam ever went down then a patch would be released to allow all games to be playable offline. Steams DRM can already be cracked pretty easily as is and not all games even have it in the first place. Even so, steam will probably never permanently shut down in our lifetime bar some horrible disaster.
>Steam will only ever completely ban an account for doing literally illegal shit.
So what you're saying is, you don't actually own your games? Because in real life, if you legally buy something then you own it. Even if you go back to the store you bought it from and steal a bunch of shit or break their shit, that doesn't mean they can take away the things that you bought.
>get banned for illegal activity on your steam account >NOOOOO MY STEAM GAMES THEY'VE BEEN STOLEN FROM ME
what the frick is your problem? what even are these priorities
wrong. Legally, you do not own any digital games. You own a license that entitles you to access the game, a license that can be revoked at any time at the discretion of the platform you bought it on. If steam decides to take action against you for anything they deem fit, say byebye to your library.
guess what, you're not "allowed" to resell games either.
And who the frick uses ebay in 2021? there's a dozen sites better suited to selling game assets, both ingame and out.
You don't even own your physical games. You just hold a license. With physical you own the disk/cart that happens to have a license attached, whereas with digital its tied to an account somewhere.
Just like you don't own the movies you buy on dvd/bd/vhs/beta. Just the license to play them in specific circumstances. Even if you physically have the data right there, you don't have the legal right to it. When the day of the rope happens, copyright israelites are getting it too.
That's true but a secondary market exists because it's impossible for the right holders to control, not for the lack of trying. >one time use CD-keys for access to online multiplayer
You only ever partially own digital games. Until you find a drive to place them on and a crack to run them without the Steam client, your games will die with the server in the event it gets shut down.
you own a license tied to your user account.
unless you make a new account for every purchase, you will find it very hard to take advantage of what you would generally consider as ownership
yeah
steam revoking access or deleting a game from your library doesn't magically remove it from your hard-drive, it will still be in your steamapps folder, and if you're still worried about them doing that you can just copy the data and put it somewhere else on your computer
cracks for most steam games are completely trivial (by design) and this is assuming the game even has any additional drm beyond steam itself or steamworks
there are solutions to retain steamworks/online capability for pirated games
people that think you don't own your steam games are privacy-minded midwits with a nordvpn subscription but will play stupid if they see the results of a wireshark packet sniff that shows a program isn't suspicious
It's a license to play the games, that can be revoked at valve's discretion: ""the Content and Services are licensed, not sold. Your license confers no title or ownership in the Content and Services."
No. You cannot own a digitial product if it is bound by DRM (such as having to be logged into an online account to play).
By contrast, you do own GOG games.
You don't own your home, you lease it from the goverment, as soon as you stop paying taxes they'll come >but muh right to defend
good luck defending yourself against a whole swat squad with orders to follow and nothing to lose
No but at least 99.9% of the time you can be sure that those games will stay in your library for at least the next 20 years. Console gays just have shit yanked out of their libraries when the delist hammer falls
no.
you own the memories made along the way 🙂
you're literally leasing them
>you're literally leasing them
I still have the HL2 series on DVD when I bought them on release, I own them.
no, and that's a good thing
Yes don't believe what other people tell you, as long as you paid a one time fee for a game and not a recurring subscription you legally own your games, they are a good not a service. The "you don't own your games" thing people are referring to is the fact that when you buy Half Life your not buying the rights to the Half Life franchise and the ability to duplicate and resell it.
if steam shuts down or closes your account you lose all your games
Steam will never shutdown
Steam will only ever completely ban an account for doing literally illegal shit. You could go to the forums post Black person and you'd just be forum banned but still have access to your games. If steam shuts down they or the company that sold you the game would have a legal requirement to allow you to somehow play your game. Gebe Newell already stated that if steam ever went down then a patch would be released to allow all games to be playable offline. Steams DRM can already be cracked pretty easily as is and not all games even have it in the first place. Even so, steam will probably never permanently shut down in our lifetime bar some horrible disaster.
>Steam will only ever completely ban an account for doing literally illegal shit.
So what you're saying is, you don't actually own your games? Because in real life, if you legally buy something then you own it. Even if you go back to the store you bought it from and steal a bunch of shit or break their shit, that doesn't mean they can take away the things that you bought.
>get banned for illegal activity on your steam account
>NOOOOO MY STEAM GAMES THEY'VE BEEN STOLEN FROM ME
what the frick is your problem? what even are these priorities
actually they can depending on item lol
If you go to jail for life do you still own your house ?
I didn't know steam shutting down would also instantly wipe my three hard drives including the one not even connected to my computer
wrong. Legally, you do not own any digital games. You own a license that entitles you to access the game, a license that can be revoked at any time at the discretion of the platform you bought it on. If steam decides to take action against you for anything they deem fit, say byebye to your library.
*copy-pastes my steamapps folder*
drm-free yes, if not then just download the crack
No
Remember, if you can't resell something, you don't own it
Might be possible in the future, we only need a law for it.
you can sell your account :^)
Not without breaking TOS, also not allowed on places like eBay.
guess what, you're not "allowed" to resell games either.
And who the frick uses ebay in 2021? there's a dozen sites better suited to selling game assets, both ingame and out.
You don't own anything, goy.
You don't even own your physical games. You just hold a license. With physical you own the disk/cart that happens to have a license attached, whereas with digital its tied to an account somewhere.
Just like you don't own the movies you buy on dvd/bd/vhs/beta. Just the license to play them in specific circumstances. Even if you physically have the data right there, you don't have the legal right to it. When the day of the rope happens, copyright israelites are getting it too.
You can resell your physical 'license' which makes it immensely more valuable
That's true but a secondary market exists because it's impossible for the right holders to control, not for the lack of trying.
>one time use CD-keys for access to online multiplayer
>developer can update your game to replace protag with a rainbow troony or outright delete soundtrack from your """""copy"""""
lol no
You only ever partially own digital games. Until you find a drive to place them on and a crack to run them without the Steam client, your games will die with the server in the event it gets shut down.
you own a license tied to your user account.
unless you make a new account for every purchase, you will find it very hard to take advantage of what you would generally consider as ownership
ive never had a CD last as long as my steam games
maybe
No but if steam died tomorrow piracy would explode overnight.
>server goes down
where did my games I owned go?
Nope. I don't own my tbhra games anymore, steams the exact same.
you own literally nothing.
this. I can (will) take your fingernails
Your foreskin belongs to g-d's chosen ones
>after you die all your stuff will either be inherited be your relatives or the govt
you cant have shit irl
I don't care. I'll just pirate them if they ever revoke my access on steam
You don't own any games (even the physical ones). You only own a license to play them.
yeah
steam revoking access or deleting a game from your library doesn't magically remove it from your hard-drive, it will still be in your steamapps folder, and if you're still worried about them doing that you can just copy the data and put it somewhere else on your computer
cracks for most steam games are completely trivial (by design) and this is assuming the game even has any additional drm beyond steam itself or steamworks
there are solutions to retain steamworks/online capability for pirated games
people that think you don't own your steam games are privacy-minded midwits with a nordvpn subscription but will play stupid if they see the results of a wireshark packet sniff that shows a program isn't suspicious
Only after you drop the steam emulator files into it's folder.
It's a license to play the games, that can be revoked at valve's discretion: ""the Content and Services are licensed, not sold. Your license confers no title or ownership in the Content and Services."
t. EULA reader
>disk brakes/gets lost
what now
have backups like a sensible person
how do i copy a cd with aaa games
oh my sweet summer child
i was born in the third week of may
reddit
>Ganker
You own nothing.
Are you happy?
No. You cannot own a digitial product if it is bound by DRM (such as having to be logged into an online account to play).
By contrast, you do own GOG games.
You will own nothing and be happy goy
You don't own your home, you lease it from the goverment, as soon as you stop paying taxes they'll come
>but muh right to defend
good luck defending yourself against a whole swat squad with orders to follow and nothing to lose
No but at least 99.9% of the time you can be sure that those games will stay in your library for at least the next 20 years. Console gays just have shit yanked out of their libraries when the delist hammer falls
It's not even "delist", every console has a brand new incompatible store, that if you're insanely lucky, has a "way to transfer the existing games".
you dont own games, only physical or digital copies you lawlets
prove him wrong
I dont listen to anyone with that hairline
You don't own any games
Even with DRM free games, you have to sign a license agreement before installing it