DO NOT PROGRESS TO ACT 3. YOU WILL REGRET IT. WAIT UNTIL LARIAN GETS THEIR SHIT TOGETHER. ITS LITERALLY UNFINISHED
DO NOT PROGRESS TO ACT 3. YOU WILL REGRET IT. WAIT UNTIL LARIAN GETS THEIR SHIT TOGETHER. ITS LITERALLY UNFINISHED
DO NOT PROGRESS TO ACT 3. YOU WILL REGRET IT. WAIT UNTIL LARIAN GETS THEIR SHIT TOGETHER. ITS LITERALLY UNFINISHED
Okay Shazam troony, I'm sorry you cant accept your L
I can fix her
can you cum inside her
Probably will get modded in at some point
She transforms into this during her boss fight. Still wanna cum inside her?
allah forgive me: would
Even more now.
Yes.
Only if I'm also transformed into that.
You mean, she turns even hotter?
I can fix her.
I progressed to act 3 and my game bugged out and it forced me to romance the emperor and become a femboy mindflayer
yeah sometimes the dialogue bugs out and gives only "continue" as an option. this picks the top option automatically. that happened to me few times but not on romance scenes.
link 2 patch ?
I can't progress because the lower city is the most unoptimized area in vidya in the last decade
Not patches will fix the shitty main story.
But yes.
Act 3 is currently unfinished.
Fugg, wait for the Finished Edition maybe.
Why was the cat so scared of her
It's a different cat.
I think the girl is Orin. You might miss it if you stumble upon her in sewers before too soon.
I think.
You are correct, but its a finnicky chain of events so its easy to mess something up if you dont take enough long rests after she joins your camp and you just keep exploring.
If the even progresses properly she will feed you the cat, remember that she was gonna help with the meals and then leave with a kidnapee.
If she leaves before the cat thing the cat will just stay in the camp with that frightened line if you talk to it.
I suspected her and attacked her and she just ran away while my whole camp aggroed me, that was bullshit.
>I think the girl is Orin
Orin has legendary resistance. You can tell who she is by hovering over them.
If you dont have any viable companions for Orin to kidnap, she will pretend to be the little girl and serve you a dinner.
After eating it she reveals herself and that the dinner tasted good because it was the cat.
But what if you don't have the little girl in the camp either?
You will because she always comes back if you tell her to frick off, as if this wasn't the most telegraphed fricking thing.
She kidnapped Halsin and the Cat lived in my playthrough.
Act 3 was so fricking broken in my playthrough though.
main story is fine till the 3rd act, it felt like it should have ended in act 2
I would say you're right, they should have fleshed out Act 2 more, like Act 1 and sell Baldur's Gate 3 like that and work on a big DLC/Expansion or Baldur's Gate 4.
if they manage to flesh out act 3, and actually rewrite the story beats and put in the cut content like the upper city and the rest of the lower city then i'll be happy with the definitive edition.
ngl i liked act 2 a lot more than act 1. Act 1 was a lot of boring wilderness areas whereas the shadow cursed lands were literally like a survival horror game
Yes Act 2 is amazing but it feels "empty" compared to the first act. You have last light and well almost nothing happens there, you have moonrise tower and it's a dungeon because they do not really give quests to you, you can only genocide them all one way or another even if you follow the balthazar's route. And the rest is just killing things/shock factors. All those abominations with the Thorm lastname are fun to encounter and kill but that's just that... you meet and kill. Oh and of course the big Shar dungeon.
>kill orin
>little girl missing from camp
>cat still in camp
>never found out what it was or why it liked her
>doesn't even react to her missing
Act 3 was so disappointing. I couldn't even finish the last fight.
It's worse. If you talk to Gortash he warns you there is a shapeshifter hiding in your camp. Anyone with more than 1 IQ will realise it can literally only be the little girl, yet you cannot confront her or expose her in any way.
I tried stabbing both, but the little girl ran away and the cat was immortal.
So I was very confused.
I'm glad I'm not the only one this happened to
I sure hope you will let me frick my sister in definitive edition, Larian
I haven't played bg3 but I have played other Larian games.
Is it something like
>First zone, extremely fleshed out
>Second zone, also excellent
>third zone, some parts seem a bit iffy, almost like they were running out of time
>Endgame zone, a clearly unfinished rushed mess
endgame zone is outright missing from the game, no Avernus.
pretty much. Act 1 is extremally good. Act 2 is pretty good. Act 3 sucks
Act 1 8-9/10
Act 2 7-8/10
Act 3 5/10
nobody cares
boring game ,shit characters
This, any fool that fell for this deserves it. Keep taking bear dick and moan loud enough and maybe le ebin pro-cons00mer studio willl take pity on you
>Baldurs Gate is massive
>hyped and teased everywhere
>literally smaller than act one
>items in BG are absolute trash
>missions are entirely uninteresting
>the purpose of the city is to get you to the Super Bosses.
>mfw
Act 1 was massive so this is not surprising.
they did clearly say that Act 1 was like 1/5 of the whole game, which clearly wasn't true. Even if it was 1/3 that still wouldn't be true. The quality really, really drops off. Act 2 was extremely boring and Act 3 had barely anything in it.
Actually, it's really not, I certainly wouldn't ever use "massive" to describe it. The main map in act 1 is rather small and everything is simply jam-packed in it like a Japanese train on Monday morning (which is also arguably a bad design, not to mention that it makes goblin/druid conflict pants on head moronic because they're half a minute from each other). The difference is that it has optional areas unlike the others.
yeah replaying right now and it does feel a bit small now that i'm aware of all the empty space
just seemed big at first because you were so focused on the dense quests
It is breadth-wise perhaps too compact. But when you consider how much height graduation there is, and how much it twists in on itself, it is pretty large and takes a while to traverse.
It reminds me of Dark Souls in that spatially most areas didn't cover a lot of ground, but feel large because of how labyrinthine they are.
I think the scale of the map is gamified, otherwise there is no way the drider patrol missed the last light inn while it wanders around in act 2. Not to mention isobel said that she got far enough away from ketheric and found the inn to be safe
It's not even bigger than act 1 in neverwinter nights. It's only massive if you're a drooling redditard because you don'tjjn4m0 know anything
they cut out half of the entire city cause they ran out of time lol! this cut short so many quests in act 3 which is why everything feels so half baked
So it's like Dead Island then? Act 1 is huge, every subsequent act and area is progressively smaller and more linear?
>literally smaller than act one
homie why are you LITERALLY lying? baldur's gate is huge and act 1 is 90% a bunch of fricking trees and the overhyped underdark is just a bunch of caves with nothing in them except one spider and Black person gnomes
they did the underdark so dirty, i was expecting more than some fricking stupid black Black person dwarfs and gnomes, only one fricking drow who is some cuck wizard. fricking hate these woke lgbt gay devs man
I'd say Quarterstaffs kind of suck in this game, there's a real drought of good staves for spellcasters until the endgame, you're likely to be using Mystra's staff for most of it, maybe the very rare in the underdark if you went for cold damage.
The underdark one is the combine one right? Just gives you ice beam and that's kinda shit anyway
The underdark staff is more of a monk weapon
You only use it if you're going all in with cold damage attacks, because it makes all your cold damage have a chance to make enemies vulnerable to cold damage for double damage.
Then there's another item that makes cold attacks have a chance to inflict encrusted in ice which was a pseudo stun if I recall correctly?
Throw in the DC boosting equipment and stat drain with spells equipment and it should let you have a chance of massive battlefield control + nuking potential.
but around half the quarterstaffs in Act 1-2 are for monks so that's garbage.
Act 1 has a stupid broken staff that gives lightning charges every time a spell deals damage. Act 2 has a staff that lets you cast fireball and has some decent bonuses.
My biggest issue with Act 3 items is many of them just don't fricking work or are very poorly designed. You can get gloves that let you select two targets when you cast a cantrip except they don't actually let you select two targets and it will just hit another random nearby target (including allies), best part is you can only do this once per rest so it's complete garbage. If it worked properly you could have a cool build but nope, it's just a dogshit item. Very limited caster gloves in general.
I fricking hate the once per shortrest shit and i FRICKING HATE concentration rules, DnD is such garbage
Concentration is literally broken in the current build because you need to roll concentration checks for every damage instance, so if you get stabbed by a dagger that deals 1d4 fire damage you need to roll twice. You can also just get a critical fail even with +12 con saves or something which is dogshit. Once per short rest items are sort of fine (but there really needs to be a quick-swap option for when you have 3+ necklaces that let you cast a spell once etc.) but once per long-rest shit just doesn't work for this game because taking a long rest takes fricking forever.
>Go to camp
>Get some random cutscenes
>Select food
>More random cutscenes
>Recast buffs like longstrider and speak to animals
It's all just a tedious chore to get your spells back. Meanwhile just roll fighter and all your shit comes back on short rest.
Well yeah but that's partly because pretty much every single piece of caster gear that does something else is bugged in some way.
>Apply reverberation when you inflict holy damage
>Inflict holy damage when you dodge
>NOPE.JPG doesn't fricking work
>Ok so you used two items to apply reverberation now use a thunder spell to MAYBE inflict DAZED for a turn if they fail the save most enemies have strong bonuses for! WOWOWOW
Frick off.
the buffing shit is tedious but some concentration abilities are so braindead OP like wall of fire or haste that they just break the game.
>wall of fire from a wizard so your team takes no dmg but enemy rolls 10-70 every turn
>cast wall of fire on a cleric and sanctuary yourself = uninterruptable wall of fire while you spam glyphs that do 40 AoE dmg per turn being invulrenable
they are moronic and made so DnD babbies don't get scared of buffs, because DnD is tabletop RPGs for normalgays and morons
That's partly due to sanctuary being bugged (just doesn't remove on some effects, you can just straight up cast wall of fire while sanctuary is active and it stays up) and wall of fire AOE being larger that it should be and confusing NPCs so they just sit in the aoe and take the damage. It also doesn't trigger damage instances when it should, often having double the damage instances it should have, and NPCs will walk back and forth into the wall getting hit every time.
I'm fine with enemies having the means to break concentration, either with spells like sleetstorm or special arrows or something, but just basic (trivial) damage breaking concentration is moronic. Taking 1 damage from a burning DoT effect breaking concentration is just fricking terrible design when your character has +12con and 133 health.
you need to just have war caster + max proficiency for anyone that uses concentration and isn't permanently in sanctuary, or alternatively have like 27 AC and permanently get counterspell for anything targeting you... my fighter was doing most of the work while my 3 party members sat in sanctuary concentrating on random shit that didn't break the sanctuary buff, easy game
>Bard
>Warlock
>Fighter/GWF
>Rogue/Sharpshooter
Behold, the ultimate short-rest comp
The only caster gear that was worth a shit was gear that increase your spell save dc
>Act 1 has a stupid broken staff that gives lightning charges every time a spell deals damage
Yea but I've been monkey trained playing martials through early access to just immediately grab the bow and cucked my sorcerer out of that staff.
Act 3 has incredible quarterstaves. Casters especially will not be disappointed.
Anon, I don't know how to save this but... I'd honestly prefer a dozen okay staffs sprinkled throughout the game rather than being cucked until endgame where I get the staff of enemy deletion.
I prefer steady power level growth compared to a flatline with a sudden spike.
You can get it extremely early into act 3. That's kinda the shtick with act 3 though is that your results will vary depending on what you choose to do and what you find while doing it.
>spellsparkler on warlock
>apply hex
>cast eldrich blast
>delete everything
Are you one of the morons who keeps spamming the map of the Lower City and claiming that's the entirety of Baldur's Gate, even though it's FOUR areas (Lower City, Rivington, Wyrm's Crossing, Undercity)?
>the moron think they can the fix or arcs with some patches
hahaha, look at this moron and laugh, that's the final game, only if they do some expansions, but i doubt it
i liked when i did the love test in the carnival and one of the correct answers for shadowheart was just mysteriously missing so it was impossible for me to suceed.
The answer was BBC (big bear wiener)
I did the same test days ago and got all 3 correct. Not sure what you did wrong.
did you not read my post? the correct option was fricking missing. i could not suceed in the interaction because only 2/3 correct answers were actually available to me.
"Works on my machine" gays never actually read anything. They are here only to signal that they have no problems at all and that your problems do not even exists.
I just assumed it was made for you to fail regardless.
I got full marks according to Shadow herself. first answer was to do with wine, second was to be discreet linked to her faith and the last was that she couldn't swim. If I remember it right. Might be different if you do the nightsong quest differently
The Druid chick isn’t even real so that love test meant nothing
I found Shadowheart boring as shit so that's probably why I didn't know the answers, she's just a placeholder waifu, like the default romance option. She's given no personality and no reason to like her.
I wish Mizora was a full part member
I got all 3 right but she was invisible the entire time so my character was just taking steps towards no one on the log
Same here, and the dryad lady was flickering in and out, and this is after talking to the djinn and him having some big fricklong variable name in his dialogue. It's really staggering how immediately the polish falls off.
i didnt get a single specific act 3 bug, all quests were playable and completable however many of them felt out of place and same-y.
Its by a mile the weakest act: it however features the single best moment of the game and a couple nice fights.
Now im treating the "final boss battles" as something different beyond act 3, im just measuring act 3 until the point of no return.
The final boss section and the epilogue were extremely weak, so if you add that to the act 3 it makes for a very underwhelming final leg of the game, which is fairly common in crpgs but even more so in Larian games
what do you consider the single best moment in the game?
But anon, I was informed that this was the highest rated game ever on Metacritic! Surely it must hold up and deliver on all fronts!
Even unfinished BG3 is better than most games ever made. It can only get better with updates.
I love the gameplay.
But it might be the worst main storyline in (non-indie) cRPG history. Just atrocious.
What's so bad about it?
- Somebody clearly confused "more of everything" and "more epic" with quality.
- As a result the whole thing lacks focus and feels like a messy capeshit fanfic and not a level 1-12 adventure. FFS, Act II boss is an avatar of Myrkul. Short timespan of the adventure makes it even more ridiculous.
- If themes in this overbloated mess are explored, they often are undermined by awful writing.
Example 1 - Player character (optionally) turning into a good illithid, with a possibility of "I'm just the good old me!" roleplay ruins the alien horror of illithids. So does a shirtless illithid trying to seduce me, but at least it's an another type of horror.
Example 2 - Karlach's background makes hell sound like an alright place, because apparently you can survive it without a serious trauma (for 10 years!). All you need is a good attitude and some luv of fightin'.
- Three initial companions have "I was super cool and strong but now I'm weak again" background. Again, somebody on the team truly believes more "epic" means better. It's pointless. Embarrassing. They don't really do anything interesting with it.
- Some of these backgrounds could be a hook for a short module. Again, it adds even more to the overall mess. Shove more shit. Don't explore it properly.
- Companions are made worse because of bad design, bugs and cut content. Romances activating by having casual conversations, Gale talking about your night together that never took place, etc.
- Incoherence possibly caused by rewrites, mostly relating to Guardian, Emperor, tadpoles in general.
- Tadpole powers, lol. Also, this whole gimmick doesn't influence the story at all.
- Some stuff just makes zero sense and contradicts points made by the game earlier. Emperor has no reason to join the brain if you free Orpheus, it's a guaranteed slavery for him, he should just leave. Again, maybe a rewrite issue?
- Some pointless profanation of classic characters. Sarevok being a flat caricature of a bhaal cultist.
>- Tadpole powers, lol. Also, this whole gimmick doesn't influence the story at all.
The fact that you can undergo partial mindflayer transformation and it be of no consequence is absolute stupidity. It should've damaged your soul even if it was just pure RP
>It does nothing
lel I've been ignoring it thinking it'd fricke in the end. When I got Minthara on side and she comes preloaded with parasite levels I thought I was fricked. Guess not lol, I should give her the hyper evolved worm then I suppose
The Hells aren't that terrible. They're still societies that function in some manner, like any other.
They aren't good, but most of BG3/most DnD worlds are pretty terrible for everyone.
The Gith are worse off than the demons for sure.
something can be flawed and still be the strongest example of its kind
bg3 puts all the crpgs released since the "resurgence" of the genre somewhere in 2015 to shame.
BG2 is still the best game ever released, that hasn't changed but this is a good game, and it will be better if they keep patching shit and hopefully restore whatever cut content is still "restorable".
They will slowly fix and change Act3 until it becomes bg3 "enhanced edition" AKA we actually finished our game.
Is anyone actually surprised by this shit, its fricking Larian?
is Ganker going to be surprised when starfield releases in a bugged to death state?
how many times does the same shit have to happen over and over before you clowns get a clue?
we know anon, we are just shitposting
now stfu
kindly
my disappointment was immeasurable after realising that you can't enter the upper city despite every NPC talking about it and it's location
Did they think nobody would notice that something is fishy?
There's an achievement if you kill the dragon at the last battle which mentions "killing the dragon in the upper city" lol, they just spawned that dragon in the last battle from it being cut content in the upper city and didnt even change the achievement.
>kennel owner recognize scratch
>tell her to frick off you're not taking my dog
>scratch leaves with her anyway
good game
works on my pc
Bros, did the patch fix Minthara? I read that it fixed some of the flags and stuff, but I want to know if it's actually working properly now and whether or not I should bother with her for my durge run that I'm doing since it's as a drow.
No, it simply fixes shit like her talking about how to defeat Ketheric despite you being in Baldur's Gate already.
That's a shame, I guess the drussy stays on the shelf for now then.
want to get really disappointed? they cut being able to impregnate her
Yeah, I know. Here's hoping it gets restored in a patch/the definitive version.
Why does this matter? Like, not trying to detract from you, but I'm curious what makes you like it being in the game if it were something they didn't cut/had fully implemented.
>add a companion character
>she barely has anything because she's not the precious Larian's special OC
>crudely cut that barely anything because they have to rush the release and now she has absolutely nothing
>uhhh why does it matter bro
I'm all for more content for Minthara, but why the pregnancy specifically? It seems like a really weird thing to bemoan instead of getting any story-relevant content or a personal quest or anything with her. At least this guy
is making a point instead of asking me why I'm not mad.
>but why the pregnancy specifically
Because it's the only thing they wrote for her, simple as that.
I can see where Larian writers came from regarding Minthara and pregnancy
Her war-like nature that desires to destroy and control supposed to face the challenge in form of the new life she has to care about
That new responsibilities supposed to challenge her worldview and teach to love life and creation, and hopefully get rid of desire to kill and destroy
it would be pretty kino arc if included in Definitive Edition
I will give you the honest answer: fetishists.
I wish all of the waifus were impregnatable but I'll settle for the evil girl
I loved ACT 3.
I finished the game two times and didnt regret.
Still one of the best games ever made.
You replaced your brain with influencers.
why do you assume that i don't like the game. i loved it but i think people should wait for them to fix it.
if you loved the game, then you should have been more nuanced and clear with your OP, because the game is perfectly playable and even with rougher Act 3 will provide better gaming experience than 99% of the games out there
>before some homosexual on israelitetube said that game bad
You're all Bethesdadrones and you totally didn't even play this absolutely perfect game!
>after some homosexual on israelitetube said that game bad
You're just parroting someone else's opinion!
So what's going to be your next excuse?
the game is great and thats my personal opinion
I'm afraid you personal opinion sucks unwashed Belgian wieners behind your back.
If you completed the game twice already it means you are some disturbed NEET and your opinion is invalid.
Which rpgs have really satisfying endings?
Mass effect 3
Original Baldur's Gate.
Being abandoned outside the footsteps of your home, your father dead, a tiny dagger in hand and wolves hunting in packs to leveling demigods in their own turfs and given the choice to attain godhood.
It's a good adventurer's tale.
Planescape: Torment. If you do things right.
Fallout 1 is pretty good.
Semi serious -I unironically liked KINO ending for my paladin in Solasta: Palace of Ice.
pillars one
Morrowind is my fav.
Also a sucker for KotOR's trope.
No others come to mind
witcher 3
Fallout New Vegas
I have no idea why a custom made epilogue for each of your major decisions for factions/characters that interacts with other choices isn't bog standard for this genre.
>a fricking slideshow
>good ending
lmfao I knew new vegas gays were hailed as trannies but you dont have to prove the memes right
Kotor 2
Planescape
Fallout 1-2, NV
All Witcher games
NFS:MW
Gothic
Dragon Age:Origins
Expedition series
>gothic
all i know is that people like to talk
please help me out here. which gothic had the npcs just spam that voiceline "people like to talk!"
Underrail
You kill a tentacle god made from spooky alien mutagen to retrieve a weird cube. The spooky aliens proceed to mug you in a cave for the cube but you're invited to their VR base in the north.
>mug you in a cave for the cube but you're invited to their VR base in the north
that doesn't sound satisfying at all
Witcher 3 has a good ending. Especially the DLC where you just sitting around a campfire with your buddy and he says we deserve some good rest and Geralt look at the camera saying that we do deserve some rest. It really felt like an ending to a big journey.
Bloodborne wake up ending
Whole game had me like "frick this eldritch bs man i just wanna go home" and it turned out it did have such ending.
im searching for katheric inside the tentacle hole on the ground, am I close to finish act 2 and start 3? should I stall more at least until patch 2 aka PS5 release?
And how many years will that be chief?
About a year to actually finish making the game. About a year to polish everything after that.
They release a Definitive Edition like a year after the original's launch. They did it with DOS1 & 2 too
>They did it with DOS1 & 2 too
and added literally nothing to those in the way of story, not sure why you Black folk keep shilling this idea that the game will magically have 100 more hours of content after a year lol, instead of asking fully fledged expansions you hope for "patches" are all larian gays just this delusional
>fight Raphael
>easy peasy
>he has less than 100hp left
>one shots the crazy midget
GODDAMNIT it was such a tedious fight and now I gotta do it again.
20d6 fire damage in that big of an AoE is a real fricker. I don't know what triggers him to be able to use it because he seemed like he just kind of did it whenever he felt like even though I was breaking a soul column every round. I had to move Hope way off to the side and away from anyone that would make for good AoE targeting to the AI to make sure he never did that.
i cared so little about any new characters they introduced that late that i just acted like nothing happened
>14 wis
>Hold person
>Perilous Stakes
Didn't have a chance
>Notice the retort buff on the imps an mooks earlier in the place
>Hatch a possible plan
>Fail the persuasion check
>MC is dead last
>Manage to hold on until MC's turn with 2 mass cure wounds
>Globe of invulnerabity
>That 5th level cleric thunder+radiant AOE
>Divine Intervention
>Friend who was watching with me "will that even work?"
>Try
>Mfw
I dropped the globe 2 turns in because I still forget concentration overwriting and still easily beat him because my hold monster scroll somehow had an 80% chance to work
I got Yurgir on my side for the fight, and he yeeted Raphael off the bridge by the door. I probably missed out on some loot but frick it, a win is a win.
You missed out on probably the best armor in the game
Hah. No. That armor is quite shite actually. Not even top 10.
>chad level 20 vs baby level 12
>a variety of mythic paths vs being forced to look like a meth addict mindflayer
>way more classes and subclasses
>get a feat every 2 levels instead of every 4 plus exponentially more to choose from
>Arueshale > Shadowheart
>epic adventure that spans a huge landmass not even including going to defacto Hell vs your entire journey
>get your own castle, political and armies
>Aasmir race
>Halfings and Gnomes dont look like moronic midgets
>cant make a troony
>more DLC support coming vs Larian basically abandoning it for Divinity 3 (who wants this shit)
Bros I can keep going on and on. Come home
I'm planning on either playing Pathfinder or DOS2 after BG3
DOS2 is just BG3 with terrible Diablo loot and a moronic "armor" system.
way better than pathfinder either way
Does it have mind flayers?
>unbalanced mess with 50 mandatory buffs
>lot of half baked mythics
>tons of moronic BiS feats and multiclasses
>le reddit redeemed demon
>boring filler content everywhere
>crusade mode, the worst game mode ever included in a video game
>human but with bright eyes
>I'll give you that one
>can make a furry
>stupid standalone dungeon DLC that everybody hate
Both the owlcat games really suck because they have the shit wannabe pithy writing of modern voice acted games but with none of the voice acting.
If you're going to make me read at least write a novel and not a tv script.
yeah but no multiplayer.
Genuinely one of the worst games I've ever played get this shit off of here.
But I need the real answer, Laezel or Wenduag?
Personally spiders are sexier than frogs
Spiders are definitely hotter than frogs, but they both have their good parts.
I may not be satisfied with BG3 but the combat in general was more satisfying because I don't have to deal with buffs and AC stacking.
Playing this game blind on hard mode and currently on act 2. This shit is sweaty as frick.
WOTR is an actual CRPG and not this watered down moron shit like DnD and bd3
There is rarely a middle ground between, "whatever you halfassedly try will probably work", and, "if you don't play perfectly the game will frick you raw", when it comes to CRPGs.
Baldur's Gate 3 is absolutely not ball-wrentchingly hard. There is absolutely plenty of room for player expression and RP. The litmus test of CRPG difficulty is whether you can keep all the PCs pure class or not. And the answer is definitely yes even on Tactician.
I suppose I could pick this back up instead of doing Act 3 of BG3 if you think I should wait.
Kind of sucks that Warlocks don't exist in WOTR however, and you can't push enemies.
>conveniently left out the building sim part of the game
lol
final boss was annoying
>try to get to the back asap
>get stopped by floor tentacles
>get stunned by mind blast
>get silenced and forced to your knees by the dream people
>get raped by dragon or magic missile'd
took me like 4 tries
>"early access" for 3 years
>releases
>It's still actually early access
wtf
>"Withers no longer re-engages you in dialogue from a distance after you've already entered the Watch Citadel in the Upper City. "
They're fricking baiting us, release the Swencut now.
>it's fricking real
unironically what did they meme by this?
she looks like the deadite mommy from the new Evil Dead
Does sharran Shadowheart still take half-orc and dragonborn wiener?
The biggest part of the game is act 1 so you can spend some quality time with low level d&d's bullshit.
It's perfectly finished. The amount of content in act 3 is humongous and dwarfs either of the first two acts. All the quests have definite conclusions. The only thing is missing is like a 15 min ending with a bunch of slides to show the consequences of your choices, but you can watch that on YouTube later.
The level design in act 3 also fell off. Both goblin camp and gauntlet of shar show that larian is capable of using verticality to design interesting sprawling dungeons, but then they make the act 3 sewers and temple of bhaal completely flat, small and linear. Then you have cazadors palace which is just a final fantasy corridor. Or gortash fight where you can climb a vine on the side of wyrms keep and skip the whole castle. 90% of the time you fight 5 bhaal cultists with the same kit and attack sequence every time. Would it hurt to mix the cultists? Maybe some bane boys could buff the others? Or myrkul necromancers in the backline? And why do you only fight Myrkuls avatar and not Bhaals or Banes? What the frick did they smoke
First Larian game? They frontload the shit out of them, knowing that reviewers and most players will never ever get to late game by the time they have to turn in their reviews
I can't fix her (the game).
minthara pregnancy when?
I'm doing my 2nd playthrough after accidentally romancing Gale and making him blow up the brain while Shadowheart didn't romance me 🙁 I missed 40% of the content because I lost at the last Light Inn, and everybody died. Has there been an up-to-date, in-depth guide yet for a completionist run? I don't want to miss anything this time.
>not reloading at the obvious 'lost content' monments
kek
It's really sad how unfinished act 3 is. Honestly. The game works SO Fricking well at handling almost anything you throw at it up til that point. Then I get to act 3 and figure that maybe we should disguise Astarion when we're checking out Cazador's palace, since they spend all game building up how he broke away and became free and how everyone there would know his face.
I disguise the entire party, walk into one chamber and an NPC greets us with a cutscene where Astarion appears out of disguise and just talks to the guy as if it was no big deal
I mean really, what the frick? I was so let down by that and the firework shop mission. Punch to the gut after 2 great acts of freedom.
there was some cool stuff and definitely some SOVL but it sticks out like a sore thumb when you stray from the path and it just doesn't work like it did in the first 2/3 of the game.
I don't think disguise had any actual use outside pretending to be a drow in act 1 to get into the goblin camp.
you can just walk into the goblin camp anon. it does work if you're an enemy of someone, i.e. if you kill a guard teifling then come back, the other guards will agro and you'll get a message saying they're friends and colleagues of the guard you killed. if you come back in a disguise they won't do that.
also for the first 2 acts you can talk to a lot of the corpses but they won't respond to their killer, so you can use a disguise to talk to them with the speak to dead spell
>bringing someone from camp that wasnt even there at the time of the enemies death and having them cast the spell doesnt let you speak to them
>killing them and seconds later putting on fake mustache does fool the dead body
amazing
Lets me rob without any problems, every instance of disguise is a separate attitude meter
I did the whole creche solo stealthing pretending to be a Gith, I reach the part where you get own zoned by the brain man group so had to find a way to get my party in. Got all but one to be gith using scrolls, use the teleport rune with the last guy staying human expecting to now have to fight all the guards and they just didn't give a shit past the immediate entrance. Kinda blew my self congratulating thoughts away thinking I'd been a fricking genius Githing about stealing the egg and shit.
disguise yourself before using speak with dead to talk to corpses that won't speak to their killers
Fireworks shop only being resolvabe by blowing up everyone in the building was moronic.
For the rest it's the pacing that sucks. The little grl shenanigans. The 2 chosen remaining not really doing anything. The mystery murders being pushed. And the constant earthquakes giving urgency.
But you're dropped in a huge sandbox of a city and the game insists storywise you rush through it, which is fricking idiotic
Nah there's a lot of stuff like that. A lot of things you expect to work just don't. Like stealthing into an encounter just to trigger a cutscene that starts the battle off another way. I can't believe they have the street alley with the 2 teifling parents in Lower City with the crying teifkid next to them and you can't speak to dead with either of them. There's no way they'd set something up that deliberately in act 1 or 2 without at least having some dialogue to go through. That's just off the top of my head but there's a lot more. Companions talking about things that haven't happened yet, or things that have happened and have been updated/changed since. Just feels rushed and it stands out twice as bad because of how much they clearly cared about the first 2 acts and put so much time into thinking out whatever you might try to do so they can have an answer for it. That feeling abruptly ends when you leave moonrise.
It's so much worse. My group ended up fighting Gortash when he invites you to the coronation, no way we're letting that happen, even KO the duke of Ravenguard instead of killing him.
Nope, game insists Ravenguard is dead for 70% of interactions while suggesting he's alive somewhere in a bunch of other random conversations. We talked to the gnomes about blowing up the foundry and insisted we try and talk things out first but NOPE its blown up now even though it makes no fricking sense to even do that with Gortash dead and Volo is just also randomly tied up to some explosives there and it's all just so fricking random and moronic now.
>Volo is just also randomly tied up to some explosives there
That's normal and happens no matter what choices you make.
Yeah another thing that's notable in act 3 is the number of unkillable NPCs. Sometimes it's not so bad like Cazador where you kill him and they do a story thing where he goes back to his casket so you can finish him off in a cutscene, but the one in the Shar house of loss or whatever its called was so jarring to me when I killed the main girl and she was just KO'd and I had to do the rest of the battle with her minions as her being "knocked out". Can't think of a single NPC i couldn't kill in act 1/2 (outside of elminster) but that struck me as really annoying after so much fluidity
>Shar house of loss
That reminds me, that quest never triggered for me at all. I've been all over the place with Shar in tow and nothing ever happened.
You missed the guy in the very first area of act 3, where there are refugee tents and such northeast of your starting location. When you get ~10 feet away from him, he says something like, "Hey Shadowheart, over here!" Talking to him advances the quest. Alternatively, you can directly visit the location the quest happens in (lower city map, look to the northwest).
I think that just bugged for me as I talked to basically all the random refugees there, all I got running around was my MC randomly throwing a bugged line that is about Shadowheart talking to Dame Aylin. Guess I'll go look in the lower city again but I think I did have an interaction there that bugged out.
i loaded up my save after downloading the patch and several of my active quests advanced and apparently i accepted Raphaels deal despite telling him off already
Yeah this happened for me too but the marker itself hasn't changed, so I don't think it's the quest that bugged just the text
>3 years early access
>Still manages to release unfinished
??? What's the point of early access?
To trick you, me and everyone else.
it's a scam. They gathered sales for 3 years based on expectations, and then gaining another wave of sales when they "release" it, but the new content is lazy shit cobbled together to justify it.
Where the hell are the bikini armors in this game? We can literally have everybody naked but bikini armor is too much?
Clothing stores in the city
>Resistant to everything
What am I supposed to do?
Bro, your Shart radiant damage?
You mean Radiant damage FINALLY has a use?!
It only took going to a whole new map..
bro you're going to be using non stop for the entire rest of the acts
>not with shart though she can't hit shit
guardian spirits is a wrecking ball in act 3.
Radiant damage is stupid useful
>5 cha
Hit it with bane then you can pelt it with any other save spell with +1d4 DC
Mouse over the necrotic veil dingus, the resistances go away when his temp HP pops. Takes a guiding bolt and some grug smash and he's toast.
these Black folk were cool as frick so larian decided you cant permanently control undead
FRICK THESE Black folk and FRICK everyone claiming this is the greatest RPG ever made
i literally just heem'd him as la'zel
If you did Grymforge/underdark first you can have a sword that ignored resistances
What sword is this?
the one you have to forge. there are 6 molds and you can forge 2 items. you can chose between heavy armor, medium armor, a shield, a long sword, a scimitar and a mace
Theres two ores? I only found one and made the heavy armor
pretty sure they are both fairly close to each other too since I think I found the second one without leaving the forge.
>wasting two crit-denying pieces of equipment so that you can ignore resistences.
no.
gotta hammer down and hit the gritty
Do monastery for the mace that blinds undead
That thing carried me so hard through act 2, baiting out my team to get a nice like of creatures to radiant laser felt so good. Even if they make the save they die 90% of the time anyway
its still good act 3 for raphael and cazador
>playing a Larian game before the definitive edition comes out
You should know by now, anon. I'm disappointed in you.
There was no warning about Larian being homosexuals that release unfinished games that they might finish later on. Nobody at Ganker screamed about this either before the release.
>b-but muh Original Sin
I wouldn't touch anything Divinity-related after playing Beyond Divinity 20 years ago even if you paid me.
Literally every Larian game is like this and it is no one's fault but your own if you lack the basic pattern recognition to have avoided this. Waiting for the Definitive Edition was always going to be the right move if you planned on playing it at all.
>Play through it now
>Play through it again in a year for definitive
Problem?
>ruining your first playthrough on unpolished garbage
better to wait I think.
I fell for the meme and now it’s too late to refund
I don't get the transition from act 2 to act 3. You follow the army to Baldurs Gate and what just walk past them? You reach the city unopposed by the army that now knows you have the one thing that is a threat to them? The city is full of refugees who have been fleeing the army, the city people are talking about the army at their door step, the circus is named after the invetible end that is coming, but you and your merry band of morons just sauntered on by? All they had to do was some teleporty bullshit and I wouldn't have cared all that much, they do it after boss fights, you just teleport away with a convenient purple vortex that appears for you
The army literally doesn't matter until the final sequence where 10 goblins and an ogre show up while you get bombed by the nautiloid
yeah that's another thing that doesn't make sense. i let it slide because it's a video game and you can't think to hard about it, especially when up until the end of act 2 most stuff worked relatively seamlessly. but it made no sense if you thought critically for any amount of time. also, if you come across the road to BG at any point before the end of act 2 you're met with a message that says the absolutes legions are already marching on baulders gate an thats what makes the road so dangerous. None of it really makes sense so I was trying to just take enjoyment out of the environmental quests and the stuff local to me over the big picture stuff for a while. But that stopped being a thing in act 3 as well so.
The army is a bunch of brainless slaves, they don't know shit. Gortash wants to offer an olive branch and Orin wants to kill you all, neither can fully control the brain.
the cult of the absolute and its army are just a means for gortesh to step into power as archduke because the manufactured threat of an invasion created a need for a strongman to rise up, a need which gortash filled
yes, but whether you're pretending to be a true soul or going kill-on-sight for the absolute, the story doesn't make sense that you simultaneously can't travel the road because of the absolute's army and also finish act 2 and beat them there by apparently weeks since they're still on the march by the time you arrive
maneuvering a large army is slower than a small party of adventurers.
act1 already has the underdark which was like 60% of the total duration since it also includes grymforge, i went thru it and then to act2 where i briefly went back on the surface to check out the mountain pass and the whole underdark->act3 start took me like 5 IRL days of just going thru dark areas... it felt fricking great, probably the best BG3 got for me. just shame the narrative elements in act2 sucked ass. there should've been a way to spare ketheric and make myrkul disavow him somehow
>maneuvering a large army is slower than a small party of adventurers.
yes but that only goes so far. you can't have them on the road to BG for weeks before you even start, that being the reason you shouldn't travel the roads, to then entering act 3 and being weeks ahead of the front lines still. I like the game and don't even care about that particular point, I don't hold it against them as, again, it's a crazy RPG video game where you expect stuff like that in the main quests (as weird as that sounds) but it still doesn't make sense if you think about it for a few minutes whether you're with or against the absolute.
I hear you anon, I'm still fricking around in act 1 and waiting for patches.
>Eat hag hair for a +1 in dex
>Respec to a different class
>Completely lose the +1 stat
t-thanks
It's in your passives list
Oh shit your right. it just doesn't show on the respec screen but applies as soon as you get out
Already finished the game a week ago. Sorry, chud. You lost.
>astarion disapproves of you being nice to people
>astarion approves of you being nice to a cat
based blood-sucker
Everyone likes you petting the dog
not everyone actually. laezel and astarion don't care
Astarion approves of petting the owlbear cub though.
>he thinks they'll fix it without a paid DLC
lol
lmao
They fixed DOS2 without paid DLC
how is act3 unfinished? there's quite a lot to explore... the undercity, the sewers, bhaal's temple, the bank, iron throne, rivington, steel watch foundry, wyrm's rock, wyrmrest and the lower city itself
>conveniently ignores entire Upper City
and which of the plot threads that were set up need upper city to resolve?
Entire Gortash plotline.
Entire Cazador plotline.
Final part of Karlach's plotline.
Whatever else they shoved into Lower City because they had to cut Upper CIty at last minute.
>Entire Cazador plotline.
his character serves as the narrative climax to astarion's character arc. nothing beside that "i'm gonna kill him and be free/take his power" is set up in the entirety of astarion's arc
The hag shit in the Lower City was also definitely going to be a Sea Hag and you'd have to fight a Night Hag in the Upper City. Otherwise the "M" note in Ethel's house makes zero sense at all
What sea hag? The hag you fight in the Lower City is the same hag you fought in AC1 if you let her go, which results in an innocent child being eaten by her.
Yes, what Sea Hag. It's not in the game anymore. what do you think cut content means. There is literally still a note in the game where Ethel's superior gives her shit. That character is not in the game
every game that isn't tetris has cut content. act1 has cut content, act2 has cut content. are they also unfinished?
>abloobloo every game has cut content
Go back to Steam forums, homosexual.
so your entire angle in this argument is to whine about something that happens in every game?
they will, but first and foremost focus on fixing the atrocious performance and stuck flags... if you were adult you'd understand software development requires prioritization of issues
Maybe they should remove the in-game notes of characters that no longer exist in the game files then jackass
nta but I regret saving the shitty pregnant lady the moment I found out she was perfectly ok with the whole thing.
Some of these side quests are funny, but some are just full of frick
>having reading comprehension this bad
Bro your INT is 2, how are you still alive?
The hag you fight in the LC is the same hag from Act1, moron.
maybe he didnt fight her in act 1
Even if you kill Ethel in Act 1 she's still in Act 3, this even gets lampshaded all the way back in Act 1 multiple times anon.
Ethel returns even if you kill her through hag mushroom hax
Really? Pregnant lady wanted the hags to get axed for me
The pregnant lady's dialogue depends entirely on whether you tell her that her brothers are dead or not. If you don't tell her she's fine with the hag, if her brothers die she isn't.
Better yet you can just knock both brothers out (which is the only way to save them, actually) and literally tell her, specifically, that you knocked them out and she'll still scream and cry about how her brothers are dead.
>Better yet you can just knock both brothers out
Huh? You can meet them while alive? Every time I reach the swamp I find their corpses at the entrance already poisoned from the apples or whatever they ate. I have always wrapped up the hag questline at the end of act 1 though
They will be confronting the hag in human form just outside the swamp the first time you approach it. You can either side with the old lady(hag) or try to calm them down and they will attack you, or you can side with them and they will rush into the swamp no matter what you say to them (and die to the redcaps/poison swamp food)
>Ethel returns
meh.. that's just evidence of larian's "your choices don't matter u mad?" shit they pull off everywhere, not really of the game being ... le unfinished
Nah that's just Hag hax
I'm so fricking tempted bros. Doing a good guy run on 1st playthrough is overrated
Either egg you give kills her family
LEL
where her family at? i gave her the egg and she stopped selling me shit too
>she stopped selling me shit too
That shit pissed me off. I like rinsing traders for all their gold and I barley took half of hers before fricking the crèche up. Also the absolute lie of that game tip that random people are happy to trade, it worked sort of okay in divinity 1 & 2 but it's non existent in this
it works but sometimes it doesn't. volo for instance i could trade in the grove but in camp he didn't give me a frickin chance
Reminder that in the bottom left hand corner during dialogue with NPC's there are buttons. For certain NPC's that includes a trade button, you can even use it on some who don't otherwise have a trade dialogue option. Try it today.
doesn't seem to work if the npc has one line of dialogue, which can happen to most npcs after you dry them out of choices
I'm playing a good guy and I slaughtered that b***h.
I'm a Ranger and the thought of taking a child from their parents for experiments is just foul.
Being good doesn't mean being a doormat unless you're a Paladin. My party didn't mind.
>Taking a child away from a murderous, pure evil, lich worshipping death-cult is bad!
Bruh.
Bro, I don't know where you're from but that's straight Residential school shit.
Abducting children from their community to force them to adapt to your community cause you think they're savages is fricked.
You don't know what Githyanki need and get from living in their creche. Even if they don't die you could seriously frick them up psychologically with the "best intentions".
Who cares? This isn't a case of humans who are all ultimately the same species, Githyanki are mutants who run around enslaving and killing everything on the orders of their immortal tyrant monarch. Genocide is in order
>Bro but why not let them with the group whom you literally see murder multiple children, of which you have a companion who literally brags to you about murdering multiple children, bro taking them away from these people is like totally evil because uhhhh some entirely unrelated real world shit that has absolutely frick all to do with anything.
Residential schools were and are fricked up but you're acting like a mindbroken moron with that knowledge in your head anon.
Why did they have to make Orin so sexy? I mean she really has a 10/10 body and her outfit shows that off in the best way. But more to the point why was her boss fight so easy (on normal) .
It's easy on tactician too. Hold monster, summon zombies from Necromancy of Thay and we had a nice, thematic beatdown where four ghouls just ripped her to shreds while my MC played some tunes. Her saves are way too low to work against a DC23 caster that inflicts frail mind whenever they fail a save.
the only fight on tac i've struggled with was the dragon
Which one?
the lightning spam one that keeps teleporting away and has 60 yd range attack with 10d20 attack damage and you only get 1 round of attacks between having to run for cover from the mega frick you nuke
How do I raise trader's attitude without giving away free things?
if there is a big update that changes the quests and map won't I have to start over anyway
Most likely. I've come to the conclusion that I might as well finish my good play through then dust the game off next year for my dark urge run after the definitive edition comes out. I feel bad for anyone who played an evil tav since like 20% of the game gets cut with nothing to replace it. All you get is a bugged companion who doesn't react to anything. All the larian talk about making the evil path a valid alternative was poppywiener.
>I feel bad for anyone who played an evil tav since like 20% of the game gets cut with nothing to replace it. All you get is a bugged companion who doesn't react to anything. All the larian talk about making the evil path a valid alternative was poppywiener.
Hey, that's me!
she starts reacting to some shit in act 3 but still not much, doesn't have a whole quest line to follow like shadshart does/has been following since falling off the naughtyloyd . I saved Minthara wife the second I got into act 2 and she just said nothing after the mindbreak saving scene.
thats because larian cut her entire quest line including her getting pregnant
I'm in act 3 and it's fricking great, easily better than 2 with all the cool shit in the city. Not sure what the doomposting was all about besides supposedly the ending being Human Revolution tier.
It's people that rushed the game week 1 and are upset. Act3 is way longer than I anticipated.
Raphael's questline makes up for everything, he should've been the final boss.
yeah, I actually forgot avernus from
it's great
it's like people are legit just rushing if they complain ac3 being unfinished
>rushed
I played it normally all day long, act 3 still sucks.
act1>3>2
act 2 is a slog if you have range type companions without dark vision, not mentioning having a lamp holder b***h in the last half of it who doesn't do a lot of damage outside of casting
I enjoyed it but it felt pretty sparse in terms of content.
Looking back I think they were really going for each act having a very different feel which is pretty cool
Wilderness exploration
Dark oppressive hard to navigate area with more enemies than NPCs
City super tightly packed with quests / people to talk to
Really love how much the Baldur's Gate here reminds me of that last section in BG1.
after changing up my classes I started to enjoy it more, felt like the rewards for exploring weren't as good. I liked the toll house fight but the doctor was pretty shit. They also had a similar gimmick of using minions just one was attack andd the other was defence focused. My first group of mostly melee trounce the doctor and his nurses quick. Then after reloadin g a save and reclassing them as casters without much AoE spells it became tougher, also had to rebuild all their magic items so it was trial and error at times.
>having a lamp holder b***h i
>he didn't free the fairy
oh no no no...
>he didn't free the fairy
I am doing an evil run through first, I haven't even met a fairy, saw some corpses in the necromancer guys secret room, thas all
>I haven't even met a fairy
it seems that way until you start trying stuff
if it mechanically worked like act 1 and 2 did you'd be right but go ahead and finish some questlines "however you want" before coming back to me
>meet disguised Orin in refugee area
>disagree with killing everyone
>Astarion disapproves
>F8
>agree to slaughter them all
>Astarion disapproves
Larian wtf is this shit?
>he wants to impress Astarion
what are you gay?
At least the game could try to be consistent with its character's personalities
Were there only two options available? I assume this is the disguised Flaming Fist, but I can't remember how that conversation went. Either way, my point is that getting involved at all might have been what he takes issue with (although the approval system as a whole is shit).
It was the disguised Fist. 5 options but 3 essentially all meant slaughter and 2 were disagreeing with it
Same outcome different words
Reminder that all these interactions only make sense if its Orin just trying to hang out with her brother.
Astarian's approve-Disapprove ratio is completely out of whack compared to literally every other companion.
You can run the whole game with companions disapproving of your actions or being benched and still max them out by endgame, but Astarion requires you to have him in your party 100% of the time and choose ALL his favored options + sex to get decent approval.
As soon as I heard Karlach dies no matter what you do I dropped the game.
Act 3 being in the city feels weird. I made an orc barbarian and act 1, 2 feels really natural but now it's hard to be immersed and roleplay in a civilized locale. Maybe having an outlander background will help but I went with dark urge.
>I went with dark urge
same here, I planned on a wholey evil playthrough so I could enlist Minthara, then I learn I can redeem her away from the absolosers and make her my vengeance wife. Do that then she is silent as the grave about everything going on in act 2, now the goblin butler feller is ahving me murder randomers which she doesn't like because of her retaking her oath. Such is pain being morally gray in D&D, kinda my fault for picking urge tho
Nah, it's larian's fault for not giving a frick about evil choices. It's shocking how poorly they've designed those paths
Yea, Act 3 definitely needs some work. Still enjoyable, but if you haven't made it there I would suggest waiting until it's fixed.
holy mother of jank I love it
>I would suggest waiting until it's fixed.
is Act 3 really that bad? and have Larian even acknowledged that's it's unfinished? I'm at the end of act 2 and now I don't know if I want to shelve it waiting for what might be weeks/months if even at all
NTA but act 3 is prima facie lower quality than everything below it. Same thing happened with Div OS 2. It's a Larian trademark to front loaded the game and half the 2nd half be utter dogshit. You should read up on the drama
interesting, I mean I already felt the dip in act 2 but I got the impression from anons that the ending is straight up missing. If it's "technically" complete then whatever, I'll see how bad it is. At this point I'm having more fun in the battles than story content anyway.
people are just overreacting because it's the internet, i haven't completed the game either but so far i'm enjoying act3 more than act2 and even if the ending was a .jpg of a goatse floating around i'd say the act is at least on par with act 2
> At this point I'm having more fun in the battles than story content anyway.
i feel like this is a pretty normal take. larian's always had trouble with writing compelling shit but have alright quest designers so when you have a quest with not too many narrative elements, or just a big simple to grasp set up-pay off then it's fine
The ending may as well be Mass effect 3 tier endings. The Dark urge evil ending is literally just a minor dialogue change of the regular evil ending
beside the shit performance and some obvious side quest padding not really
it's pretty telling when most people complaining about act3 are people who completed it already, massive 150hr+ RPG completed in a week. i'd say 90% of those people just rushed the game in 35 hours and are surprised they got a shallow experience
>everyone complaining about act 3 just rushed the game, there's simply no other explanation, no, absolutely not
Holy moron.
next time don't rush the game then pretend it's "rushed" or "unfinished", you ruined it for yourself lol
You are a moron
Anon. The only people that rushed the game here were Larian. Even putting the state of act3 aside multiple spells don't even have proper tooltips for fricks sake. The amount of text in the game that is just fricking dead wrong is astounding.
The game has been out for nearly a month now and it doesn't take more than 20 hours to experience most of the content of a single playthrough let alone 150
and? you have been crying since week 1 lol
you ruined the game for yourself, by yourself
Just because you're a legit moron who is bad at games, doesn't mean everyone else is. for a lot of us we are experience at CRPGs and BD3 is the baby food of crpgs so its incredibly fricking easy.
don't care lol you ruined your own fun and the first playthrough of the GOTY and you are NEVER. EVER. getting it back
I spent 80 hours on the game (maybe 10 were me alt tabbed or afk) and enjoyed it overall, act 3 was just bad
>80
you were rushing, guaranteed you didn't even do avernus or wyrmrest
>guaranteed you didn't even do avernus or wyrmrest
I did both of those things and beat the game in 66 hours, are you a legit moron? did you actually manage to die in this game
>t. followed guides
kek, no shit you hated the game you didn't even play your own game
moron ahaha
>t. couldn't beat the game under 70 hours without a guide
Wow that's sad.
jokes on you there is no wyrmrest in the game, it's called wyrmway
lol
LOL
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Sure
The game isn't more than 80 hours long, moron.
It does not take even close to 80 hours unless you’re a turboautist that savescums every roll or something
t. I’m in act 2 after 45hrs, including making a new character after being butthurt about how shit my first one was
It took me 80 because I'm an OCD case that explores every single step of the map / opens every crate and sometimes retreads
I see you are enjoying your first CRPG good for you bud, missed out not being born back in the days of baldurs gate 1 and 2 i see.
Sure
>don't care lol that's why I'm mass replying in defense of this game with shitty arguments and getting laughed at
What is it with you morons, do you get off on embarrassing yourself or something
>don't care lol you ruined your own fun and the first playthrough
By finishing it 3 weeks after it came out?
Sure
If you enjoy being cucked out of a finished game, you're simple minded cattle that should be culled from the human race
This isn't week 1 though. This is week +3. Show me a single thread from release week full of complaints about act 3
I have never played dnd in any form in my whole life before bg3 and it’t incredibly easy except for the very early game when you just straight up don’t have the resources to breeze through it
Are you moronic, even taking shit kind of slow it took me 60 hours to complete, the game isn't as long as you think
you lying Black personhomosexual
even cohhcarnage who has been slathering on larians balls over this game outright said its unfinished and act 3 is a total mess
but its still the best game ever made 🙂 haha streamersssss
I think you should at least wait for the next big patch, this patch didn't do too much to fix it. If you are really itching to play feel free to play it, it's still playable and enjoyable, but it's definitely a let down in comparison to Act's 1 and 2.
In case that's pointed towards me, we did pretty much all but 3 quests (accidentally locked ourselves out of them). I have 90+ hours in the game, we played and beat it on Tactician. Also we beat it just before the big patch so Orin was a fricking joke.
Dragon isn't too hard if you have summons to take his Wrath attacks, but he's probably the hardest boss in the game for sure since you can't completely cheese him. Others include the big Gob fight (assuming you aren't level 4+) and Raphael (if you don't hold dab on him).
Orin is still a joke after the patch, she has no way to resist something like Hideous Laughter. She might challenge a fighter character or something but even then you have scrolls.
Orin is a joke but her cultist with Sanctuary on are not. I wasted about 10 minutes waiting for those c**ts to do just anything.
I just hugged them with Spirit Guardians, works on literally everything.
Spirit Guardians aren't strong enough to kill them (at least on Tactician).
Bruh. Upcast. They die in two turns with a leveled version of this. Even the normal version will do something like 10-20 damage per round.
>that's just evidence of larian's "your choices don't matter u mad?"
You're literally told repeatedly throughout Ethel's lair that she won't stay dead if you kill her anon.
idk man, just thunderwave them off the cliff or something.
Orin had no way to fight Hideous Laughter before the patch either.
Gotta love how the rest of your team is just standing there
Not sure if you noticed but our 4th didn't even properly show up because he was glitched in dialogue (you see him merged inside me at the beginning). We had to kill and revive him in order to let him play again (reloading/rejoining did not fix it). Also after the cutscene I found out that my ghouls I summoned were still inside the building and could move around in the last area.
Act 3 is fun as is, why are you making shit up?
>BG2 has 2/3 girls you can make pregnant and 1/3 to actually be a family with
>BG3 has 1 cut pregnancy and no girls you can make pregnant because modern western righters are anti-sentience being activist
Shadowheart's epilogue, if you romanced her, implies you're going to breed her. Assuming you haven't gotten tentacled. But yes, you're right, it's bigly disappointing.
Minthara's pregnancy is inadvertently cut content. The flags / triggers are fricked up. The files are almost all in the game.
I don't think we'll ever see the upper city politics shit added to bg3 but you're a few patches away from being able to frick a kid into the Drow b***h.
Do male and female PC's have different dialogue banter or different quippets? Or do different voices have different things they say? Because I made a female and a dark urge as the default race and now I made a drow male and he's so much more talkative than my previous two PC's and saying shit none of them said
They seem to say the same things in my experience, just paraphrased slightly differently. One might say "I have such a headache" while the other voice says "I'm getting a headache"
All Tavs have the same voicelines, just different actors.
Dark Urges have all of Tav's lines but occasionally say some fricked up shit when you select them.
Dark Urges also have some occasional unique environmental barks, like wondering if they were good once when seeing a children's game.
>NPC gets 3 turns and does a frick ton of damage
>get said as controllable ally for battle
>1 turn, not even multiple tier 3 spells
Larian why do you do this to me? Let me live my power fantasy.
I personally enjoy the glitch when the game forgets to recharge your actions for a turn and effectively gives the enemy a surprise round halfways through the battle.
Glad to hear I'm not the only one this happens to. Thought I was going nuts or just not seeing stunned effects or something
That’s happened to me too
I’ve reached 4 on the “wait why the frick did it just skip my turn” counter at this point
I prefer when enemies continue to move in real time in the middle of my turn, or when my concentration spells inexplicably disappear despite me never having casted or done anything
It's the main argument for running as an Assassin Rogue, your actions get topped off at the start of every fight.
Actions can (somewhat legit) get lost by stupid shit like casting guidance in dialogue, which catches a lot of people off-guard when the conversation ends in a fight and they suddenly have no actions for the first round.
how bad are acts 2/3 really compared to 1? I’m getting close to the end of 1 and I’ve seen a shitload of mixed shit on Ganker
Honest question. And to be very clear, I don’t care how “linear” they are. I don’t want more acts as LE BIG as 1 is, it’s taken me a solid chunk of time to get through I just wanna know about quality
Act 2 is relatively short, and takes place entirely within one map. Act 3 is as long as act 1, but has less variety in "biomes"/scenery than act 1 because it's set entirely in a city. Act 3 severely lacks polish, and has lots of performance issues. Act 2 is fairly dreary, and lacks a lot of NPC interactivity because of the setting (evil place of EEEVIL that kills everyone that isn't in light or protected by powerful magic). Ac 3 is the exact opposite, with way too many NPCs to talk to, most of which have nothing of value to say, and half of the combat encounters are blatantly filler.
>I don't care how "linear" they are
It's a fricking RPG, you tasteless cuck.
Thank you for your honest answer anon
Act 2 has technically 3 maps but it is more like 2. You get moongleam tower and it's prison basement, which is just and extension of the overworld really, then you get the Shar temple which is very much its own map, just feels like a chore to navigate.
>WAIT UNTIL LARIAN GETS THEIR SHIT TOGETHER
lol
they wont
>tfw you can't make the one guy on your team that's totally down to go squid be the one to deal with the endgame scenario
Frick off
Is karlach's best ending the squid one?
They really fricked my sisterfu
Best ending currently for her is going back to Avernus with her as romance. Alternatively Wyll going with her.
Squid is debatably the worst aside from her just poofing with zero fanfare if you didn't bother making any attempts at fixing her heart depending on how the whole mind flayer vs soul thing actually works in the setting although there's more leaning toward it to you being fricked over.
I don't know her biggest fear is going back to hell to be forced to fight, sounds like she would much rather die, so making her live and experience hell again sounds more selfish on the MC's part for forcing her to suffer for you
She's more open to it when (You) or Wyll offer to go with her. Her biggest issue was she was so lonely in Avernus which wouldn't be as bad with you with her. Plus you can probably figure a way out / find a fix for the engine while there.
Do you have to romance her to go with her? because i legit believe she is best at a sister role, and i would go to hell with my sister
Yeah it kinda sucks how it works right now. If you don't romance her then you have to have Wyll go Blade of Avernus (which in itself is currently fricky in how it works)...and even if you DID romance her, Wyll might just override you in that scenario.
They really fricked her, even more upsetting because she is one of the only legit good person companions, and annoying you have to romance to go with her, going to hell to protect your sisterfu/brofu is a kino ending
they cut karlachs quest line because she was tied heavily to the upper city which was also cut and thats where you would go to avernus which is apparently supposed to be a whole zone almost the size of the underdark
Can all 3 of you go together? Tav Wyll and Karlach? I feel like itd be the best ending for all 3
Nope although that would have been cool and could be a nice set up for an Avernus expansion or something as they wanted that as a zone
Squid is always going to be the worst ending because they have no souls and I don't feel like the story really conveys the implications of that too well because you get 2 mindflayers that are just chill with you
Kinda nuts how few flayers you kill through the game, meet more hivemind escaped squids than aggressive ones until the last battle. They just don't give a shit that one of their giga brains got enslaved?
you kill more goblins than mindflayers it's actually fricking moronic. You kill less than 10 in the entire fricking game pretty sure
I think there were more mind flayers in that optional area in BG2 alone than in entire BG3.
act 3 is better than 2 in every possible way, the shadow fell sucked dick
Reminder that as a Doppelganger, Orin could take any form you like.
Reminder that she only wants attention from her onichan in a bhaalist way and that everything is your fault for not taking proper care of your imouto in a bhaalist way and so you deserve to be stabbed to death for choosing tav instead of the canon Dark Urge for your sister in a bhaalist way
im still looking for all this unfinished content people keep talking about even after beating the game.
people really just rushed the game and are trying to make it look like larian did a mass effect 3 ending kek
>I've spent only 100 hours in the character creator and 300 hours in the act 1, why is literally everyone other than me rushing the game, ugh
This is how moronic you sound.
It's been 3 weeks you stupid homosexual
>fight taking fricking forever
>almost done
>fricker heals himself to full
Just frick my shit up
Yeah I'm only in Wyrmguard and the game already dropped off pretty hard. It's fricking strange how there's now 10x as many NPCs but 1/4th as much shit to do. Everything feels so strangely 'empty'.
Anyone else just hoard all unique weapons & items even for classes you don't play? I got a chest full of monk and wizard shit I just don't have the heart to sell. Not that I'm ever short on cash being a slight if hand god with the cat perk giving me advantage on every disarm and lockpick check. I made a big buy for some armour the zent sold on act 2 at 8000, then Thorns armour was better so it was a waste to buy it for a single act anyway
I hate the fact that I agree with Jason Schrier, this game is actually unfinished and I have no idea how it's still unfinished after six years of development and why they chose to release a clearly unfinished product
They released the game a month early instead of delaying it again because they didn't want to compete with Starfield and didn't have the money to keep development going
>wyll's special rapier scales with spellcasting proficiency instead of dex and comes with a free planar ally cambion spell
why are they obviously favoring wyll and its only act 2??
Reparations
no clue either
wyll and lae'zel get preferential treatment giving all the frickin GITH only gear you can get that can make you a frickin protoss unit
What the frick I missed this because I didn't bother with the persuasion roll
i didn't realize i had a free summon when i grabbed it.
hes kinda okay, tankey.
but nothing beats the choices from light cleric like the djinn
But I would imagine the damage increase would be really helpful right? I switch out gale(wizard) if I want to have fun with eldrich blast but I just don't trust wyll's damage to keep him along all the time
i guess if you want to hit shit with melee. i just used wyll as 3 lock/9 sorc at the end. charisma robes, pact of the fiend, eldritch blast shit
im not using him again on replay though. he does good damage but i got so frickin sick of his pact with mizora bullshit.
>djinn
why? just a shitty restrain that always failed because loltactician that uses the summoner's concentration instead of the summon's
the demon with the infinite spammable ray of fire is the best
i think he can teleport, and can push people with his wind breath shit
i dunno he came in clutch for that bhaal trial where i pretty much just dimension door'd wyll+mc cleric up there and bum rushed him because how the frick else are you supposed to do it
i just think everything that isnt dmg is worthless, esp in act3 when enemies just have 20 in every stat so every saving throw just always goes in their favor
>how the frick else are you supposed to do it
You stab your sister until she dies like daddy bhaal intended.
I'd prefer to keep my Sister Wife alive.
>not summoning the big strong oily deva
>oily deva
shit i haven't played much with the choices because i was in act 3 and was tryin to not bug it out anymore than it already was with long resting
Honestly I'd probably just give it to my sorcerer, Blade Warlock doesn't care about the melee caster enhancement and my sorcerer LOVES dc boosting items.
>beat the game on tactician
>still no idea what spell save DC means
>never used any spells but damaging ones
this game was made for morons wasn't
If you took less than 300 hours to play through the campaign you didn't beat the game you rushed it
>you followed a guide
>you rushed it
Maximum cope.
>go through all the effort of intimidating ketheric
>have to fight him in the end anyways
Am I doing something wrong or was that completely pointless?
Succeeding the first time gives you the option to try again the second time. Succeeding the second time lets you skip directly to the final phase of the fight, instead of fighting his knife-eared form down to 0HP.
You can get him to an hero himself but it's like Saren in Mass Effect. It just skips the first phase and skips to the 'badguy is now possessed by badder guy' phase.
he probably means on top of the tower
it doesn't matter if you succeed the checks he still goes oogabooga and tries to kill u
In my case he kneels before you and Dame Aylin swoops down and bonks him to start the fight which was actually pretty funny.
>Dame Aylin
PC makes Ketheric give up when entire armies couldn't
Dame manages to piss him off so much he gets right back up.
I refuse to believe she wasn't intentionally designed to annoy the player.
it just skips the first phase
When does Act 3 get bad? I've done the circus and toy sidequests and those were great.
a bit further in when it ""opens up"" and you're running a checklist of going from house to house to finish a sidequest there, then again with the gortash and orin encounters being inferior to myrkul, then one last nosedive as the game railroads into a mass effect tier 3 ending.
Is it a bug when enemies can dash and still attack you? i find it very fricking annoying
No
Are you still early in the game? Default class Astarion can do that at level 2
No i beat the game, just throughout the entire game it seems like almost every enemy could do it.
just get it here then
Any of you kings who don't use quicksaves and ironman this got some advice?
You're going to get fricked by a random critical fail no matter what you do, so be ready for that.
>no actual ironman mode
>no achievement for it
why would you even bother
It's really fricking lame there aren't at least ending slides telling you how everyone ended up after the game, because right now the ending sucks, and just like playing dos2 first time i am really annoyed not of my choices actually mattered at all and it came down to the very end to pick my ending
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Why is Ganker only playing the gay genre, Netflix finally brainwashed you?
All video games are gay
Copium
Meant for
but i literally just beat the game?
>Gale says ouright that he wantsto frick me
>no option to just say I'm not interested
>not immediately tearing his arm off when given the chance
you have no one to blame but yourself
I don't mind that he's hitting on me, my character is a gigachad barbarian who doesn't wear a shirt and locks that will make even the straightest men quiver, so it's only natural, but it's kinda fricked up that I can't lay down any boundaries
post your tav
I'm a deck enjoyer, thats why it's kinda blurry
>Blessing of a goddess cannot compare to a single pixie
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If he’s doing magic bullshit with you, just pick the option that fricks it up or ends whatever it is. Almost all of his little dialogue trees are for sex
Apparently they patched it today to make it less moronic but I have yet to see proof and I refuse to talk to him anymore lol
>boundaries
yeah no kidding the relationship system in general feels like walking on varying DC levels of egg shells
Just pick the butthole option
He’s a complete creeper
>do the dumb “quest” in the grove with the pickpocketer homosexual kids, don’t leave when the girl gives me the countdown
>come back to the grove multiple times after that and nothing happens
>come back again 10 hours later for the “protect the grove/sabotage them for drow waifu” battle
>suddenly everyone bombards me with skill checks because I “harassed” children
Oh just frick off. If you’re gonna pull that kind of trick just do it immediately for christs sake
There was 1 npc who literally individually checked every member of my party. How is that supposed to be fun
>>Oh just frick off. If you’re gonna pull that kind of trick just do it immediately for christs sake
It's suppposed to normally but I wouldn't put it past this game to somehow bug and make it delayed
when do I actually get to Baldur's Gate? I've been wandering around this gay ass darkness area for like an hour
>WAIT UNTIL LARIAN GETS THEIR SHIT TOGETHER. ITS LITERALLY UNFINISHED
an unfinished game got shilled as a 10/10
lmao
Do you consider trading your reaction to get your prof bonus to AC a decent trade for a Warlock?
beargay-bros, our game is incomplete? how did this happen??
patch 2 coming before PS5 release, trust the plan, patriots in control
>finish game
>characters just go "huh that happened"
>Withers shittalks the three death gods
>roll credits
Okay but what happened to my party? What happens to Karlach as a mindflayer? Where does the Emperor go? What does everyone do now?
The Emperor died. You killed him.
(You) did kill him, right?
Why? Even when I didn't eat ze bugs he still helped me in the final fight and didn't try to take control of the Netherbrain.
>he trusted the thing that tells you twice he will control it and then drops the act and explicitly calls you his thrall if you refuse his romance path after showing you a flashback of what he really did to Stelmane
You're almost as dumb as Larian's writing staff, and no, metaknowledge of him ultimately being genuinely trustworthy (in direct violation of everything he's said and done up to that point, especially regarding his intentions for the Netherbrain) do not justify this.
Everyone says what they plan to do, and for romances and a few other instance you also get another ending where you further define what the two of you will do.
Sorry Anon, but anything resembling an actual ending was cut because Larian was running out of money and needed to get the game out before Starfield.
>What happens to Karlach as a mindflayer?
I really hope that if they ever patch in ending slides that all companion mindflayer endings do everything in their power to twist the knife.
If I remember from some of the cut endings, Withers comments on how interesting it is that they were able to keep their soul in tact, and that in this instance he had been proven wrong.
>they were able to keep their soul in tact
that's bullshit just like how eating tadpoles doesn't actually have any negative consequences despite the implications
Wither's specifically mentions that the soul-consuming part was a flaw in the plan with no solution.
Well then fine, it's a straight happy ending form Karlach, she likes fighting and fricking so who cares if she snacks on some two-bit thugs after cleaving their legs off?
Also she of all characters can benefit from the massive IQ increase. Maybe then she'll realize that tieflings being a bunch of dickass thieves is why they're all a bunch of poor Black folk.
i gave her enough soul cookies to last awhile
i dont even know what they do in game anyway
Karlach is fricking dead. The tadpoles consume the body AND the soul.
Yea that's what I said anon. what do you think "twist the knife" means in that context? I mean I want them to make it absolutely clear that mindflayered Karlach becomes a fricking monster.
And it will still be worth it, because Orpheus can go make the Gith slightly less a bunch of buttholes and I can go frick my wife.
>literally everyone (literally literally) is gay
>Every dialogue is gay sex related
>GOTY
The soul coins being changed into a Karlach power-up instead of currency for Raphael is so fricked. How am I supposed to picture her using them? All that comes to mind is some tokusatsu shit where she shoves them in a coin slot on her chest.
>1d4 fire damage if raging or nearly dead but the duration is until next long rest.
Uhhh.... okay but isn't this kind of shit for a limited use item?
It's fricking garbage.
Honestly it should have just been a super buff for her for one battle. The way she describes them, most players would never use them except for a boss fight. You expect it to combine the effects of Haste, fire shield, and boosting her stats or something.
wow thats frickin garbage. i should just sell them next time they finish her frickin content
>all it needs to do is scale with her level or progress in the quest w/e
Either way it's free damage until long rest. And if you don't long rest excessively or suck at finding coins there's enough to go around. What's not to like about a bonus 2.5 damage on every swing that no other barbarian gets?
because if you're not a dickass thief, those coins are much more useful early on as vendor trash.
>barbarian
why would you keep her as a barbarian, they fricking suck, make her a fighter
because not everyone is as boring as you
>barbarian
>not boring
pick one
tavern brawler
throw some shit
have a good laugh
I remade Karlach into a fighter so she could be a polearm master and tavern brawler + retaliate when enemies miss attacks as a reaction. Now all I need is to give her sentinel and she'll completely zone out enemies.
>returning pike for absurd damage on throws
>extra reach for pole arm master zoning
>riposte when enemies attack, heavy armor for good AC Evasive maneuvers to inflict disadvantage if needed.
>sentinel so she'll attack if anyone else gets attacked, and she destroys whatever action the enemy wanted to do thanks to opportunity attacks now removing their movement.
>late game she'll have 6 OP throws per short rest.
Why not multiclass so you can enraged throw that spear?
Berserker is just for an early third attack but I prefer the adaptability of the fighter because Maneuvers are so good plus I can stack feats early. Most encounters should end before you get much mileage out of enraged throw.
imma be honest with you chief polearm mastery is kinda overrated. especially on fighter. sentinel will eat up your reaction a lot as is plus you have riposte to consider. also the interaction between polearm mastery + sentinel feats may or may not still be totally bugged
Polearm mastery is just so that Karlach can interrupt enemies that walk into her zone of threat. Sentinel should let her make AoOs with advantage and stop their movement. It has the added bonus of letting her hit people every time they try to attack my other characters. The riposte is there if they try to attack her instead. Basically since she's built to throw her spear, the idea is to use her to roadblock enemies, which is why she has the shoving maneuver as well. The idea is to ensure she's using her reaction to attack every single round.
homie, fighters are the most boring class in the game.
Why, maneuvers are the most fun they mimic spells but also do your full weapon damage which means they're better than the spells they mimic + they reset on short rest.
Being a fighter means you are the swiss army knife for every situation and they have the most build variety which their extra feats.
>build one as the ultimate archer with dual crossbows
>another as a perfect zoner with a polearm + sentinal
>a frontline tank goading enemies to fight them
>The twohand warrior damage dealer cleaving through enemies with advantage via underdog.
yeah dont know his hate for fighters. they are pretty good clean up/sweepers. though i use barb my first run instead for that just with less turns
>dual hand crossbow class to just single target elminate
>ligth cleric, eldritch blast lock with sorcery for aoe
>karlach just goes in and fricks shit because shes a dumb prostitute with shit endings because larian released unfinished game that made act 3 sucks frick you what a waste of time on a waifu just to get fingered after a date and then frick off to avernus
>ridiculously high str
>enraged throw
>enraged shove
>tavern brawler
>tons of barb support itemization
BM Fighter is fun but Barb mogs them
>Romance Shadowheart
>Become Mindflayer
>Choose to have a nice day
>Her reaction
Honestly 90% of the companion reactions to you choosing this choice sounds like a really shitty first take, but Shadowheart nails it. Too bad the companion that reacts is completely random.
It is so fricking gay you can't join malus thorm in torturing that guy
>one of the greatest games ever made
>literally 1/3 of the game is garbage and also unfinished
This is why hacks like Cohh Carnage will never be remembered, lol.