Do TG gamers look down on people who pay others to paint their minis for them?

Do TG gamers look down on people who pay others to paint their minis for them? I want to play 40k but I have no drawing/painting skill whatsoever.

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't paint my minis. A zenithal prime is all I do, because I like the sculpture like look it conveys, and I can better use my imagination to interpret the color for the mini in any fashion I wish.

    With that said, I'm not knocking people who do paint; I somewhat envy good painters who are great at their craft. It's simply not a portion of the hobby I personally wish to engage with.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      have you ever tried it? watch some videos on youtube. it is not rocket science, and fun even if you cannot paint like pros. after all, you are not napoleon either, but you wanna play wargames anyway.

      >A zenithal prime

      you can start simple, just like that, and literally build upon that.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >have you ever tried it?
        Yes, it was a chore and the minis looked like shit. Instead I started paying someone to paint them for me and I have one fewer chore and better looking miniatures.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why don’t you apply contrast paint over the zenithal?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Painting is probably my favorite part of the hobby, but I will applaud any steps a person will take that means I don't have to sit across a table of unpainted, or god forbid unprimed, minis. Someone could come in with minis fingerpainted based off of their fursona and I would not give a frick as long as that plastic is covered in some layer of paint.

      That being said and excuse my autism , but if you just took one more step to apply a single color of contrast paint/speed paint/acrylic ink, etc your stuff would look so much better. You're sitting right at 95% of a reasonably completed model.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can I get a name for the hooded rogue looking one?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The depths of human copes never ceases to amaze me.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not personally, I tend to paint single figures and don't really like dropping the quality to get an army done quickly. It's not an issue with my 10 year old marine company but if I wanted a horde army I probably would pay to get help with the troops.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Players who don't paint >>>>>> Painters who don't play.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Other way around for me. I suck at painting but id prefer to play against someone whos army isnt nekkid

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s the opposite.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you just consoom models and don't play games you are the cancer killing the hobby, and I do not say that lightly

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone who gives you grief over something so petty is extremely insecure

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I sell the stuff and yes, I do. Because you are:

    1. A woe-is-me victim loser that doesnt paint because it would just be another thing to be depressed over. Just wanna whine about how you're lame and can't so shit all day.

    2. An ignorant, untrainable autist who is literally too stupid to know that you have to listen to better people than you to learn. Probably painted once, sucked at it, but is too fricking autistic to share this so just thinks he can't paint forever.

    or

    3. Some thirty something know-it-all that is literally too much of an annoying homosexual to set aside their ego for five minutes to learn some simple techniques because the sportsball game starts in an hour and you need to get your wife's children to their future divorced ram truck owners of america class.

    Literal morons can paint, so yes, you are literally less than moronic if you don't paint your own minis.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      So much grief in you anon, chill.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Painting is literally the easiest part of any miniature or model making hobby. It is dramatically easier than any game system, so I take offense when people say they can't. Can't is always just one of those 3 categories. No one ever won anything or improved or learned a lesson by saying I can't.

        Too many nerds just want to be a fricking victim.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Anon is angry people don't do things he wants them to do.
          Why?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >irrationally angry that some people don't engage with a specific element of the hobby that he likes
            >cannot fathom that someone may be better at learning a game system than painting, implying a belief that everyone has the same aptitudes and inclinations towards specific skills as him
            Anon is on the spectrum.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              HOW DARE SOMEBODY ENGAGE WITH A HOBBY THAT ISN'T EXACTLY HOW I ENGAGE WITH THE SAME HOBBY?!

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                They’re not engaging with the hobby. Which is not “the” hobby or “a” hobby, btw. It’s my hobby. Centered on me, which I own forever.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It is dramatically easier than any game system
          I dunno man, I know a lot of warhammer nerds with fat fingers, dogshit hand-eye coordination and shitty fine motor control. They sure can memorize a game system, though.
          >No one ever won anything or improved or learned a lesson by saying I can't.
          Okay, and? It's a recreational activity dude. Personally I take great pleasure in painting and seeing my skills grow over time but assuming everyone into wargaming is interested in improving their painting skills is nuts. Some people just want to play the game.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You sound fun to play with

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      tbh I dont really want to play with unpainted models but... you sound insufferable. You left out the LARGEST barrier to entry in painting. Time.

      Take that 30 something you talked about. Most 30 somethings work a minimum of 40 hours a week, some many more. Add on girlfriends, wives, children, extra jobs, social life, other hobbies. Not everyone has an extra 50 hours a week to paint up a 2000 point army.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes they do.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Not everyone has an extra 50 hours a week
        homie even professional painters aren't doing it for 50 hours a week, just set aside a couple of hours each a weekend and work through it slowly god damn

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Know a guy who works around normal eldar dudes. They are all absolutely stunning.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you so mad anon? Did someone in /wip/ mock your minis?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I feel like this person just described the 95% the beta males at a LGS. They sound like they go explicitly from their moms basement to the LGS and back and that's their entire life. They just describe the only 3 types of people they know.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They hated him because he spoke the truth. People REALLY hate learning. Their moms told them they’re special and perfect and smarter than the other kids and they have the plebbit gold to prove it. So you can’t tell a motherfricker nothin’. Or else they’re totally demoralized zoomers who watch other people play video games for them because the idea that they will lose a Pokemon battle is a total ego death.
      Meanwhile I spend a lot of time just trying to dig up any tidbit of info or technique that I don’t already know. Shitters don’t have a time shortage, ever btw. They aren’t busy. The few who do have families are watching tv with their kids’ faces buried in an ipad.
      I do commissions enough to pay my utilities bill every month and have done for a decade. I only work for people like tradies who make big bucks but have no time (actually have no time), but want a well painted army. I also paint random fun crap and often do it for free if it’s small and is for somebody appreciative. Often this will be teenagers with some D&D figure. In short, people who can pay and are appreciative of skill and work, or can at least make me know they’ll treasure it even if it’s a broke kid. Limpdicks with wife’s boyfriends’ allowance money are cheap, unappreciative, never satisfied anyway, and get ignored.
      I have been an artist and a portraiturist for my entire life. I don’t expect every person interested in miniatures to start learning to paint minis any more than I expect people who want a portrait to start learning life drawing.
      Incidentally, it’s tradies and kids who are the best clients and the best students for that as well.
      So the OP question was do I loo down on people who don’t paint their minis. Yes. But not because they don’t paint their minis. Some 14 year old or a welder on an 80 hr work week who badly half-finishes a model is worth 1000 redditards in horned rim glasses offering $10 in betabucks to spend 20 hrs on their mini.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >People REALLY hate learning.
        >The effectiveness of the US educational system is applicable to the entire earth.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They hated him because he spoke the truth. People REALLY hate learning. Their moms told them they’re special and perfect and smarter than the other kids and they have the plebbit gold to prove it. So you can’t tell a motherfricker nothin’. Or else they’re totally demoralized zoomers who watch other people play video games for them because the idea that they will lose a Pokemon battle is a total ego death.
      Meanwhile I spend a lot of time just trying to dig up any tidbit of info or technique that I don’t already know. Shitters don’t have a time shortage, ever btw. They aren’t busy. The few who do have families are watching tv with their kids’ faces buried in an ipad.
      I do commissions enough to pay my utilities bill every month and have done for a decade. I only work for people like tradies who make big bucks but have no time (actually have no time), but want a well painted army. I also paint random fun crap and often do it for free if it’s small and is for somebody appreciative. Often this will be teenagers with some D&D figure. In short, people who can pay and are appreciative of skill and work, or can at least make me know they’ll treasure it even if it’s a broke kid. Limpdicks with wife’s boyfriends’ allowance money are cheap, unappreciative, never satisfied anyway, and get ignored.
      I have been an artist and a portraiturist for my entire life. I don’t expect every person interested in miniatures to start learning to paint minis any more than I expect people who want a portrait to start learning life drawing.
      Incidentally, it’s tradies and kids who are the best clients and the best students for that as well.
      So the OP question was do I loo down on people who don’t paint their minis. Yes. But not because they don’t paint their minis. Some 14 year old or a welder on an 80 hr work week who badly half-finishes a model is worth 1000 redditards in horned rim glasses offering $10 in betabucks to spend 20 hrs on their mini.

      What if I just don't enjoy the process of painting itself you tards?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        find a different hobby or play Total War

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Frick off moron

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >says the homosexual literally incapable of applying some basic colours onto a model
            you should try practise with picrel first, they even have adult versions these days!

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Frick off unapologetic moron
              No one is obligated to watch paint dry because your homosexual ass considers it a mark of maturity

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                No I don't consider it a mark of maturity, when I was 12 years old I was able to paint Warhammer miniatures. I consider it a sign of extreme mental deficiency if you are literally incapable of colouring in between some lines. No one cares if your minis aren't a masterclass exposition, but if your fingers are too fat and your IQ too low to do something as easy and basic as painting a piece of plastic then there is really no hope for you, I'm sorry. You really should stick to playing vidya and watching loretubers or whatever, it's easier on the brain.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You sure do seem to be insistent that everyone must enjoy the most boring and inconsequential portion of an otherwise fun hobby, for someone whose self-esteem isn't bound up in it, homosexual.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Frick off unapologetic moron
            No one is obligated to watch paint dry because your homosexual ass considers it a mark of maturity

            You sure do seem to be insistent that everyone must enjoy the most boring and inconsequential portion of an otherwise fun hobby, for someone whose self-esteem isn't bound up in it, homosexual.

            >homosexual
            >moron
            >homosexual
            Grow up

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              literally this. that anon is having a full blown autistic meltie that people dont follow his obscure basket weaving forum standards. there is a far cry from people paying to have their models painted or having them barely painted/half painted and on their and shit like this

              I do dislike turning up a store game night and players plonk down 2000 points of bare plastic. I get it if we're playing a freshly-released game like The Old World and people haven't had time and just want to get stuck in.
              I love seeing my minis laid out on a nice terrain board after all the work I've put into them, and acres of shiny grey kills the narrative aspect for me.
              Like just slop on 3 colours straight from the pots at least. Fricking try, what are you afraid of? You can always strip the paint off and redo them when you eventually get better at it.

              3D printing guys with vague proxies are the worst for this. It's taking the piss, I can't tell at a glance what units are, and sometimes the prints still look wet.

              where someone just has a graytide/primertide and ruins the aesthetic of the game.

              the fact that he cant emotionally express himself in a way to convince others of his ideas shows a lot about his personality.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sometimes you just gotta remember that when arguing with a trologdyte like the anon in question, there's a very high chance that they are literally a teenager.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >obscure
                Universal, normal, and defining.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >normal

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            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              homosexual

              literally this. that anon is having a full blown autistic meltie that people dont follow his obscure basket weaving forum standards. there is a far cry from people paying to have their models painted or having them barely painted/half painted and on their and shit like this [...] where someone just has a graytide/primertide and ruins the aesthetic of the game.

              the fact that he cant emotionally express himself in a way to convince others of his ideas shows a lot about his personality.

              moron

              Funny you should say that, I suggested the same thing.

              [...]
              Get out, you have no place here. This isn’t “the more the merrier”. You’re the guy who wants to be on the wrestling team but hates exercise.

              [...]
              This is 30 years off, if ever, and will still need people to do the digital paintjobs. Current tech can’t extrapolate into it, either. It will only ever make very crude, basic looking procedural crap. It will never have artistry without new, unforeseeable tech that can apply digital paintjobs to the physical model.

              [...]
              Nope, he’s right and you’re unwelcome, it’s why you can’t get games but I am turning people away and overbooked.

              [...]
              Yes you are. You’re not up to wargaming and will never be allowed past the gate, which we control. Forever.
              You fricking mouthbreathing, drooling moron.

              homosexual

              based

              moron

              (painting is its own, tedious hobby merely adjacent and subservient to traditional games, if anything you barely belong on this board)

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You've already been BTFO multiple times in this thread, you can leave now and never come back. No one wants to play with grey miniatures and no one respects gamers who literally pay other people to paint their minis because they're too low IQ to do it themselves, or their dopamine fried brains find it too "boring". Shoo shoo now!

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                go away

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You forgot

      4. 70 year old man whose eyes are shot and whose hands shake all the time but has a boatload of money. That's the biggest customer of commissioned painters that I know of

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Love all the seethe in the replies from morons who didn't read the OP and haven't realized that OP isn't painting because he has no painting skill

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >3. Some thirty something know-it-all that is literally too much of an annoying homosexual to set aside their ego for five minutes to learn some simple techniques because the sportsball game starts in an hour and you need to get your wife's children to their future divorced ram truck owners of america class.
      Literally just play Custodes. Your entire army is like 20-30 dudes and the process of painting them is literally just spray painting them gold, washing the gold armour with brown shade or contrast paint, painting the weapons a gunmetal silver metallic, painting their robes and hair red, then washing the red and silver bits with Nuln Oil.

      Bang, a Battle Ready 2000 point army in basically no time at all.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love this post. This is the kind of hostility I used to come to Ganker for.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Painting can be hard and if you don't like painting it becomes a hassle.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, that's really it for me. I just don't enjoy doing it. I might enjoy the idea of a well painted model, and on occasion enjoy the finished product when I'm not being anal about it and fretting over every detail... but the process itself I hate. It just frustrates me to no end, rather than it being something I enjoy.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Miniature wargaming is oftentimes more about the spectacle than anything else, I'd much rather play against an army that was painted by someone else than not painted at all. I've done some commission work myself and I own a few units I bought second-hand that were already painted to a good standard so I didn't bother to strip them. It's whatever.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why would you want to play a substandard wargame if you're not interested in the hobby side of it (the part that matters)

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    No ones cares.
    I painted for a dude for 5 years, and he has been playing for over a decade. I love painting for the guy because I know he enjoys the miniatures I've built/painted for him, and it's better they get used to game with rather than sit on my shelf.

    Some people don't have time to paint (family, jobs, etc.) and just want to play, nothing wrong with that.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Some people don't have time to paint (family, jobs, etc.) and just want to play, nothing wrong with that.
      If you have time to play you have time to paint, put off playing for a bit and use your game time to get some colour on those minis.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    On one hand, I understand not wanting to put in the time or effort to get decent at painting.
    On the other hand, a basic base coat + wash job, or a coat of speed paints, is incredibly simple, and far preferable to gray plastic.
    I don’t judge people for paying other people to paint for them, but there isn’t really a good excuse to not have any paint on the table.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's nothing wrong with paying someone else to paint a few models here and there as long as you paint most of your own models.
    It's like 1/4th of the hobby, if you don't know how to paint minis, you don't play Warhammer. There is literally thousands upon thousands of hours worth of tutorials and beginners resources on learning to paint, and if you practice, you'll find it's really not that hard.
    The mental gymnastics non-painters need to do to act like they're part of the hobby is insane, and there is no valid excuse for not committing to putting effort into the hundreds of dollars of plastic it takes to make up an army.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      My main problem with the nopaintz plague we have these days is not so much that it sucks and makes for a halfassed, much less interesting game. It’s that they have utterly warped how the games themselves are designed. Similarly to how a lot of vidya is now designed to get streamers to play them for free advertising rather than being designed for actual humans to play.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Neither did I when I started. I’m not even that great now!

    I won’t shun you, but you won’t really understand /yourdudes/, which is what makes the whole process so great.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I look down on any tryhard who paints their minis.

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    not "look down" but I do feel you're kind of missing the point of hobbying.
    Unless you're really into the unbalanced tabletop game but that raises other questions.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. But it's still much better than greygays.

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. Not everyone likes painting, and that's okay. You can buy pre-painted used models and sometimes even save a lot of money doing that. You can also commission someone who does paint well at your FLGS group, and they'll probably be happy to paint you something.
    It will still feel good to point out that you got those models used, or that your homie painted them for you.

    I don't really like when anyone leaves their models on grey, but not everyone has the time or the money to get everything painted. And I'd rather have the homies to play with. And the best thing I can do as a guy who does love painting, is to paint my stuff, share how I did it, and inspire others to paint. And I do commissions for the homies at the FLGS. And everything I've done growth wise is just trying new techniques. Everyone starts from zero skill.
    Pic related, first model I painted.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      and this is my latest.
      And while it says there's 11 years of gap between, I stopped hobbying for about 8 years between the two pictures, so really we're talking about 3 years of growth, and only the last year was serious and intentional about new techniques and seriously trying to get better.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It surely makes you lesser. though not lesser to the point of any significant ostracization.

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do look down on them, but not every gamer does.

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't look down on them at all because those people hire me, and that's how I make a living.

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >muh no skill
    I can't begrudge you for paying for someone to paint your dudes but this is a hint that you have a poor mindset. You can build the skill and it takes less time than you probably spend jerking off. Your first mini or two will be crude but you're a couple Duncan Rhodes videos and an afternoon of effort away from painting tabletop level minis. Prime, thinned basecoat, maybe some highlights, heavy wash. Or zenithal prime, then contrast paints. I dare you to try.

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's totally fine to not want to paint. Not everyone is going to like every part of a hobby. Now granted I would absolutely recommend at least trying it out, especially if your only fear is that it won't look good. Try it out on a basic infantry group of models, don't stress too much about it being good or not, and see if it can be fun. I'm a pretty basic novice painter, but it's still fun to give your models a personal touch. If you don't like it, just some basic primer or if you really want paying someone to paint it for you still works.

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    We're playing toy soldiers, dude. As long as I can know at a glance what you're fielding I only care about your conduct when playing the game.

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate painting miniatures, with a burning passion. It's boring, my hands shake too much for good control, it takes forever (for me) to do even basic stuff.
    I could practice to speed up and get some better control, but I still hate doing it.
    Luckily I have a friend who loves modelling and painting, so he does it all for me. We both win then.
    It also doesn't help that it's for 40k which is a stupid game. and I play only to satisfy my friend's itch.

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    No respect from me for greyBlack folk. Anyone can do a zenithal and slap on contrasts. Don‘t choose an army with lots of detail if you’re a wimp. You can paint a Necron army in an afternoon.

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't look down on it (I have done commissions myself) but it does rob you of an aspect of the hobby and deprives you of developing a skill. The only way to get better is to do it anon, that's the way it is.
    >But they're expensive and I don't wanna frick it up
    You can practice on cheapass minis for other games. Frostgrave boxes come with 20 dudes for like $20 and 20 dudes is two forces in that game. Gaslands uses hot wheels and those are $1. The Battletech starter is $60 and comes with eight mechs. When I wanted to paint the dragon on my kurita mechs I practiced on Angry Orchard bottle caps until I could do it well. Hell you can grab some plastic army men and paint those.
    Nobody's first paint job was awesome, unless you're a woman because makeup skills transfer over well it's really unfair. It's something you get better at by doing, not by watching videos or reading blogs (that helps), it's a tactile skill. Is this something you tried and failed at, or did you talk yourself out of trying? What army are you trying to paint?
    I'll put it this way. When I first started there was a book on the LGS shelf titled "how to paint citadel miniatures", it was $30. Now they put out painting videos for free, introduced contrast paints for easy mode, and dock your VP at tourneys for greytide because that paint line wasn't selling itself. It's not my favorite aspect of the hobby (I like modeling and converting more) but it is part of the hobby and you're cheating yourself by skipping out. You already bought the models and put them together, may as well finish the job you started. Otherwise you may as well skip buying models entirely and play on TTS if the only objective is playing the game, it's much more affordable that way.

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't look down on you, it's your free time. I would prefer you have painted minis either way, but the hobby is always a work in progress so some grey is expected and totally fine imo.

    A lot of good advice in this thread that I'll echo. You really should give it a go. I'm not artistic or gifted, but it's so gd easy to learn how to put out good quality minis from watching YouTube tutorials these days.

    I'm gonna assume 40k based on your OP pic. Just pick an army that's easy to paint. To me, that means less armor trim, so no chaos marines or sisters. I have chaos myself and while the trim looks great, it's a real time suck. Flesh is generally pretty easy, so I think demons and nids can look great without needing as much effort. Necrons are also notoriously easy to paint, but I've never tried myself.

    Your first few will suck, hang on to those. You'll get better and better and it'll be fun to compare your good stuff with your first attempts. Don't get discouraged, just learn and do a little better on your next mini. And on and on it goes

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The real question is: why would you want someone else to paint your minis? I mean let me rephase it: it's like hiring a guy to eat your ice-cream

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's like hiring a guy to eat your ice-cream
      Probably because for many people it's more like eating spinach; it's good for you, but it's not something they want to eat. Personally I do paint my own minis but it's more out of a sense of obligation to do so than anything else - on a scale of 1-10, 1 being something I don't enjoy at all and 10 being my absolute favorite thing to do that always brings me lots of happiness when I do it, the actual painting process is about a 3 or 4, maybe a 5 at best if it's a mini that really speaks to me. I do enjoy the satisfaction of seeing the end product and having painted it myself, but I find the actual process itself a drag and I don't really derive any meaningful amount of joy from it. Different strokes for different folks and all that.

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't have any drawing or painting skill; this is how my first mini turned out. it's not perfect but you may be pleasantly surprised at what you can do if you apply yourself

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This homie knows what's up
      No one's expecting you to paint the fricking sistine chapel. Especially if you're painting marines, maybe even eldar. It's not about the opinions of sweaty homosexuals, but rather giving your people the colors that represent them. If you give a shit about your men, it's no more difficult than sticking them together.

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know anyone who would judge someone for commissioning painting.

    I mean, kind of.
    If you can't paint or kitbash but pay someone else to do it, then my army/model is better (on the ascetic side) than yours because you don't have an army. You told someone else what to get, then used their army. So, being smug about the paint if you didn't do it; yeah. I judge that.

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I want to play 40k
    no you don't. You think you do, but you don't. 40k is not a game that one plays, because the the actual game portion is honestly pretty shit. 40k is a hobby that you engage in, and the hobby includes playing some games. If you aren't interested in the painting and modelling aspects of 40k, don't bother. Find a different hobby.

    So to answer your question, yes, I do mostly look down upon people who pay to have armies painted because they are paying what is probably a fairly decent sum of money in order to have the privilege of playing a game that isn't even very good, instead of a) doing the hobby portion themselves (which is the whole point) or b) just doing something else.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah they don’t want to participate in the hobby, and they don’t really want to play 40k either. They want to be Part Of Popular Thing (and that thing is interchangeable and disposable). Like 5th ed D&D players who want to feel like they’re on some dipshit streaming show (they want to be on tv, really, like people who want to live in the world of Friends).

  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    As long as you aren’t taking credit for the painting. I paint a ton of stuff for my local shop, business is great since everyone advertises for me. Shop owner 3D prints and quotes people for paint jobs so I basically always had something around for extra cash.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      How does said shop owner feel about 3d printing killing off the old minis biz, btw? The smart move is to join the winning team like yours seems to have but mine basically has walls of dusty GW and WotC figures he’ll never move and is just resigned to this fate.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >mine basically has walls of dusty GW and WotC figures he’ll never move and is just resigned to this fate
        Maybe he should offer a painting workshop or something and use them as the materials

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Funny you should say that, I suggested the same thing.

          [...]
          What if I just don't enjoy the process of painting itself you tards?

          Get out, you have no place here. This isn’t “the more the merrier”. You’re the guy who wants to be on the wrestling team but hates exercise.

          soon 3d printing will improve to the point that models are formed fully painted by use of many colors of pla

          This is 30 years off, if ever, and will still need people to do the digital paintjobs. Current tech can’t extrapolate into it, either. It will only ever make very crude, basic looking procedural crap. It will never have artistry without new, unforeseeable tech that can apply digital paintjobs to the physical model.

          Frick off moron

          Nope, he’s right and you’re unwelcome, it’s why you can’t get games but I am turning people away and overbooked.

          Frick off unapologetic moron
          No one is obligated to watch paint dry because your homosexual ass considers it a mark of maturity

          Yes you are. You’re not up to wargaming and will never be allowed past the gate, which we control. Forever.
          You fricking mouthbreathing, drooling moron.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            based

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Nope, he’s right and you’re unwelcome, it’s why you can’t get games but I am turning people away and overbooked.

            Sure you are bud

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        He’s good with it. It’s mostly a card and dnd store. He keeps a handful of games on the wall but he really only stocks what people want to buy. We all help out to let him know what’s meta in the various game systems.

        >mine basically has walls of dusty GW and WotC figures he’ll never move and is just resigned to this fate
        Maybe he should offer a painting workshop or something and use them as the materials

        This too. There’s a few painters thst go to the store and we help out the newbies thst want to paint

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes, absolutely.
    Effort has value. Good effort, taking your time to improve, not slapping contrasts onto a white priming.
    We're adults. Put effort into your hobbies, or go play chess. There is no consolation prize.

  33. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, everyone I've played with just likes to see them painted, regardless of standard. It's literally a 3D coloring book, everyone can mix paint and water and fill in color fields or use a rattlecan and copy the colors in the references/box art. Don't overthink it, don't overspend and don't except to match the paint jobs of people with decades of experience. Just get it done and play

  34. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I want to play 40k
    Why? It’s a horribly bad game, just incompetently designed at every level.

  35. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't care who painted them and to what standard as long as it's not grey tide bullshit. Have some self respect

  36. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    people ITT are really trying to justify why they're too moronic to colour in between the lines lmao. Anyone who brings an unpainted, grey army to the tabletop is scum

  37. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    soon 3d printing will improve to the point that models are formed fully painted by use of many colors of pla

  38. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do dislike turning up a store game night and players plonk down 2000 points of bare plastic. I get it if we're playing a freshly-released game like The Old World and people haven't had time and just want to get stuck in.
    I love seeing my minis laid out on a nice terrain board after all the work I've put into them, and acres of shiny grey kills the narrative aspect for me.
    Like just slop on 3 colours straight from the pots at least. Fricking try, what are you afraid of? You can always strip the paint off and redo them when you eventually get better at it.

    3D printing guys with vague proxies are the worst for this. It's taking the piss, I can't tell at a glance what units are, and sometimes the prints still look wet.

  39. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'll look down on you. It is genuinely pathetic that you wont even try painting your minis cause your pride can't handle that they wont look good. You have no painting skills because you don't try to paint. Get over yourself.

  40. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who gives a rowdy, rotten frick what tg gamers think about anything?

  41. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't care, do what you want. You're screwing yourself out of half the fun though.

  42. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I work 47 hour weeks if I'm doing overtime. Before I go to work in the morning, after I've eaten, cleaned out/fed the pets, and done the dishes, I sit down at my desk and spend an hour or two painting while listening to an audiobook. That's my fricking zen time.

    I don't expect people to finish a full army on the same week they started the hobby, but I expect to see progress and I will definitely judge the crap out of you if you are constantly dropping 500-600 a month on a new grey tide just because a new rules update came out and you're too busy chasing the meta to finish what you started. As for getting stuff pro-painted, I get that people don't all have time, so sure why not? I reserve my judgement for gays who, after years of hobby, have a mountain of unpainted plastic in their living space.

    Picrel is my last finished project. Working on two Ogryn-Servitors.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus frick how early do you wake up?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but I work 48 hour work weeks, 4 12 hour shifts with 4 days off. I find lots of time to paint.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          But how. I worked 60 for some time and was completly dead. 5 days a week 12 hours plus 1 hour commute. Come back make food and you basically go to sleep, barely functioned on the weekends

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            If my schedule wasn't 4 on (2 days 2 GYs) and 4 off I wouldn't have the time. 4 days off in a row is alot of time to do stuff.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            NTA but it depends a lot on the kind of work you do. 60 hours of data entry will leave you burnt mentally but might make you feel better about cleaning, cooking, and exercise in your off-hours. 60 hours of physical labor like construction may leave you physically exhausted but want a mentally engaging activity to destress like reading, painting, or social conversation.
            That said, 60 hours is excessive for most people and you have to develop strong routines to maintain a work-life balance like that for long. If you are already someone who has trouble sleeping or has a poor diet that leaves you low on energy you will suffer in all aspects of a schedule like that,

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm only asking because he said he does a bunch of stuff + 1-2 hours before work, and probably has to commute on top of that. I know it's manageable if you sleep at a normal time I'm just curious when someone who does this wakes up lol. I can't imagine doing anything before work apart from bare minimum of getting ready.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, i missed that part. I'd rather sleep in than paint.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm on a similar schedule, I work 0900-0200 three days in a row. I don't get any painting done on my days off tho I just sleep lol

  43. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Painting mini's is so much easier than drawing or any other form of art really. I am utter shit at drawing yet my minis always look decent because 90% of the work is done for you by the sculpt. Just learn to be neat when painting and don;t go crazy with color combinations or elaborate designs and you will get good results more often than not.

  44. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am bad painter. I am slow painter. Contrast paints, washes, drybrush are serve to replace skill. Going to play with blending on my nighthaunts in this summer. I use the hobby as breather. When I come back from work and feel the need to clean my head. To focus on something else. To gently touch the minis with my brush and forget the world. I usually do just one color at time. I rarely batch paint. So some minis have their skin painted, other just their hair, some have painted weapons and some not. After about 30 minutes of painting, I feel fresh, my brain restarted and ready to enjoy my free time. Maybe one day I will have painted army. But I guess at that I would cry a lot, because it would make me realize how many shitty days when I needed a brainbleach I had.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would say usually 5:30, I'm out of the house to work by 7:30 to get to work for 8.
      A lot of it's time and motion. I set up for the morning just before bed.

  45. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I look down on anyone that doesn't do things the way I'd like them too. It's nothing personal but it's the only way I can prop up my already extremely low self worth. Quite literally without hate I'd be nothing

  46. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't look down on it but I paint my own minis. However I cannot be arsed to paint a whole army. All of the troops, tanks etc get a spray job, speedpaint accents, lazy drybrush with a large brush (sometimes even chucking the mini across the table lol). It's only HQ and elites that I pay attention do and handpaint.

  47. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't look down on them, but I think they're missing out. Getting to make /yourdudes/ your own through building and painting is half the fun. More than half, probably, given the varying opinions on different game rules.
    An amateur but passionate paint job is a thousand times better than a professional but assembly lined one.

  48. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would say give painting a chance. There's tons of free beginner's tutorials online, and you always pay someone else to build and paint your stuff if you really can't get into it.

  49. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care if you throw away the fun part of 40k, but do I look down on you for wanting to play it.

  50. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do, but I don't look down on people who just go unpainted or just prime down and call it a day.

    There're a lot of respectable reasons to skip the work but having someone else do it, especially for cash, is a huge fricking waste.

  51. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you come to my table with unpainted or badly painted models I will break them with my bare hands and then break your fricking spine in half

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      No you won’t.

  52. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you don't paint, 99% chance you're a secondary who got into 40k when you saw that god-emperor Trump on TV.
    The only acceptable reason to not paint is being blind. Otherwise, frick off.

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