you may not become a gigachad, but losing weight is almost guaranteed to make you much more attractive than you currently are
go ask Ganker about the leanpill
Yes. I acknowledge they are flawed in many ways, but I have made friends and enjoyed wonderful moments in them. Same could be said of many games, but I also enjoy being able to emotionally invest in a character long term
It's not even so much that the games were good, it's that the community was better.
If I were to hop on a MMO now I wouldn't be massively multiplayering, I'd be soloing. You'd have to be gay or want to be gay to talk to any of the other homosexuals out there and party up.
solo bad before because people were better and more naive about the world and internet. solo good now because people are insufferable and are blackpilled depressed homosexuals that only play mmos to supplement their misery
hes a good looking well dressed (and white) british man with the right accent.
of course people think he knows what hes talking about even if a lot of what he says is completely moronic
Josh is one of the examples of saying correct things and not being wrong in any way shape or form. He is legit a good example of a well researched well spoken good looking lad that has good observations about the medium. The opposite of 99% of bongs on youtube. He is a literal exemption to the rule.
I have not played one since classic vanilla and archeage unchained back in 2019/20. I'd like for ashes of creation to not be a scam or meme, but I won't hold my breath for it when getting burned is the norm in mmos.
I just ignored the channel from recommendations when I kept seeing clickbait videos.
Nope. RPG shit is all tedious rubbish. I only play action games with no stats that I can beat in under 20 hours and move on. Every single mmo ever is shit and every single loot game ever is shit.
I don't even play MMOs but I still watch him for some reason, the only thing about him that annoys me is when he says "MMORPG games", the G already means games, you don't have to say it twice.
>What is an MMORPG
The fact he thinks there's some kind of subjective definition behind this term made me realize how low iq he is but i still love his vids.
He is kind of right. The nomenclature for MMORPG is kind of outdated. However he is also ignoring the fact that people understand clearly what an MMORPG is, even if it doesn't fit the definition anymore. And this happen in all sort of fields.
Example, you don't see people (at least rational ones) trying to change the name of the Red Panda for what it actually is, which is not a panda nor a bear as well.
I think your talking about language and how it can change in time but he specifically said that he thinks that MMORPGs can be different things to different people.
He's not wrong. Guild Wars 1 is almost two decades old and people still argue to this day whether it's an MMORPG or not based on their own genre definition.
I stopped watching when he made some cope explanation for why he puts "worst game ever?" in the title of his videos. It's painfully obviously clickbait to trick people who have nostalgia for those games, but he went on to say "n-no it's just the name of a series I do, I'm not calling it worst game ever that's just wrong you're wrong"
I mean come on, that's just having contempt for your audience
he didn't even really make an excuse for it, he's said point-blank that he chose that name for the series because negative titles do better than positive ones.
Yeah I've been playing wow and destiny 2 to attempt and fill the void but there really is nothing worthwhile. I want to pick up Speedruns of some game since that will be more fulfilling
I really don't know. They seem so very interesting but I played World of Warcraft for a couple weeks at launch and didn't like it, and I didn't like Final Fantasy 14. I hear WoW is vastly different now though, I thought about giving it another go.
I dont know what "raiding" is, I'm legitimately 100% MMO illiterate. The idea of sharing a world and making an impact on that world, I guess. Or at least that's what I hear it's about. Like occasionally Eve Online makes the news because something crazy happened in it (I hear this game is only for 400iq geniuses so I'm not going there).
YouTube autoplayed some World if Warcraft history video, and I was like "damn, that sounds so cool, wish I could have experienced that".
In most MMOs you have no impact on the world, and sharing just means seeing other people but never talking. Back in 2005 people did talk in MMOs but once social media came around the idea was dead.
In EVE you do have impact but it's literally like having a second job, you might as well play microsoft excel 90% of the time.
In EvE you kind of have to have 2 or 3 characters set up to play optimally which can be a bit disheartening I learned to relax on that front after I found out that the hard core adherrants have, on average, 3 - 4 ACCOUNTS (which can have up to 3 characters each). Once you realise you'd have to devote all your free time and likely an ammount comparable to your ground rent a year to play optimally it's easier to accept the sub optimal life style of having one account and one character like me
Unfortunately what people don't like to talk about in 14 is that the base game is absolute gutter trash, and asking someone to play 100-something hours to get where it "gets good" is asking too much of people. Plus, once you get to the good part, there's no guarantee that you'll actually like the story since that's going to be subjective.
If a story doesn't grab you, then you have to depend on the gameplay of an MMO to grab you, but you have to already be in the mood for a tab-targetting MMO for that (which is a very outdated model of MMORPG at this point).
So IF you get through that first hump, and you're lucky enough to be the type of person that will enjoy the story once it actually starts getting good, its' amazing. But how the absolute frick are you supposed to know if it works for you to begin with?
There's watching a streamer whos at a good expansion, but that's also a big time investment that might not pay off.
I disagree. It's just that it introduces the settings and the story feels like a classic FF (think FFIII) before expanding tremendously throughout the next expansions. A lot of people talk shit about ARR but it's actually not bad at all.
Unfortunately what people don't like to talk about in 14 is that the base game is absolute gutter trash, and asking someone to play 100-something hours to get where it "gets good" is asking too much of people. Plus, once you get to the good part, there's no guarantee that you'll actually like the story since that's going to be subjective.
If a story doesn't grab you, then you have to depend on the gameplay of an MMO to grab you, but you have to already be in the mood for a tab-targetting MMO for that (which is a very outdated model of MMORPG at this point).
So IF you get through that first hump, and you're lucky enough to be the type of person that will enjoy the story once it actually starts getting good, its' amazing. But how the absolute frick are you supposed to know if it works for you to begin with?
There's watching a streamer whos at a good expansion, but that's also a big time investment that might not pay off.
it would be fine if it wasn't mind numbing easy and full off "go talk to this character across the map
character says i you're in the wrong area go talk to other character across the map" x4
>FF14
Isn't even an MMO. It's a single player game with occasional MP content.
You're not gonna find a good modern MMO, because millennials helped kill the genre.
https://culturess.com/2023/04/15/study-shows-millennials-play-video-games-generation >Millennials’ favorite genre includes MMO games, which are Massively Multiplayer Online role-playing games such as the Final Fantasy series, Star Wars Galaxies, and World of Warcraft. 41% of Millennial users selected MMO games as their favorite genre, followed by 27% picking strategy games, such as Crusader Kings, and 26% selecting RPG, or role-playing games, such as Elden Ring.
>Millennials killed the genre
Yep.
The genre, when it first hit the scene was this sort of lived in virtual world.
They monetized the genre by turning it into a skinnerbox scam and millenials demanded more.
>Isn't even an MMO. It's a single player game with occasional MP content.
This is why I fall out of it every time I try to restart.
I want to play with other people, but nobody, literally NOBODY is in the same part of the 4000 part MSQ that I am in. I only ever see people in dungeons and it's never enough to get to know anyone. It's a fricking miserable experience being in IRC chat while I'm going through the LONGEST fricking themepark ever.
>because millennials helped kill the genre.
millennials are married 40 year olds with 2 kids, a 1.7mil dollar mortgage and cram in FFXI parties or Eve Online fleets after they send their kids to bed
you're thinking of zoomers
>He thinks zoomers actually play MMOs.
Yo buddy. Millennials were the last big age group to get into the genre.
You don't hear zoomers talking about how they want a new MMO, you hear it from millennials who constantly crave and chase MMOs
I've been playing Black Desert on and off and it's pretty much not worth it, despite the combat probably being the best MMO combat since BnS
We'll never have good MMOs, the modern games industry values greed far too much
For some reason, freedom and dynamic gameplay have been inseparably joined to hardcore poopsocking design philosophy in MMOs despite the fact that these two things do not need to go together. So you either end up with a casual button clicker with uninspired quests or an unappealing design on top of interesting mechanics.
yes. theyre fun to hop into and grind out for a month or 2 but after that it gets stale. i wish sega didnt frick PSO2 so bad because it was the only one i actually had legit fun with
It was infuriating, but not surprising, how the process of setting servers up immediately got took over by trannies. I have never went from so excited to play something to so fricking disappointed
I did when I was a kid but I quickly realized how shitty the genre is with all the cases of P2W and manipulative skinnerbox gameplay. MMOs hold infinite possibilities though which makes them so exciting to talk about, it's like a pandora's box waiting to be opened.
It is Josh Hays A Youtuber withe a mug fetish mostly know for his series "Worst MMO Ever" where he attempts to play every MMO ever to find the worst one
No, I enjoy lobby based online coop games like MonHun or GBF, they are like mmo but you can do your own things without other people getting in your way and you can always call your friend to do something together.
MMOs are a relic of an earlier internet where the concept of playing with other people online in a video game was something seen as impossibly huge. Everything is multiplayer these days so that novelty has worn off. The “massive” worlds that MMOs promise end up being dead after a few months anyway since everyone will just be AFKing in a city. Just look at WoW. Apparently all the zones of a previous expansion end up being abandoned when a new expansion comes out with newer zones. Essentially the “world” is comprised of dead malls
>Pretentious >i dont the way he talks so hes pretentious
my guy this is the same dude that goes on tangents about how he doesnt really know anything more than anyone else while shitposting with 5 different picture in pictures on his screen.
the guy has also actually done a shitton of different jobs and is a legitimate dinosaur of Neverwinter and made guides, so if anyone is a pretentious frick its you. thats not to say i dont know why you think that, repetition is a core tenet of solidifying a point and cementing information and prevents veering off topic.
if you think hes pretentious youre a moron who cant get past someone being educated but you can still not like much of his content which i dont bar the Worst series
i haven't played an mmo hardcore for maybe 8 years
the first one i ever sunk time into is actually still up and running and still seems to have ok playerbase so im wondering if i should try it again
In theory, yes. MMOs would be my favorite genre.
Sadly, in 20 years, we haven't moved past basic skinnerboxes and grindfests, so I don't play any currently.
Imagine if all shooters were still Quake and never tried anything different. That's MMOs.
What are some MMOs coming out worth keeping up with? I want something with world pvp and have no interest in ashes of creation with its insanely cancerous corruption system.
MMOs could have more farming elements like Harvest Moon and more reasons for social gathering so when people are sick of combat they have something else to do like the off time moments in a pen and paper RPG.
>raiding is interacting
I can tell you've never raided seriously if you think raids are interacting.
Raids are watching an hour long youtube video and then morons occasionally getting yelled at for not doing what was on the video. And then some minor autism over loot.
I'm gonna say it: I like this guy. He has very basic opinions but his observations about MMO stuff have helped me notice and figure out stuff in games that I play. He's very well informed in that one topic I feel.
I never played WoW but this pic is sad. I played Aion for years and became one of the best sorcerers on the server. I was in the second highest ranked guild on our faction for a while until we eventually passed #1 (dead for many months) and became the top guild on the faction. By then the game was pretty dead.
I'll never forget the final days where I logged in and guild chat was dead. Looking for group was dead. World chat was dead. I even logged into an alt in the opposing faction and that was dead as well.
>Do you enjoy MMO games?
no they are boring and the people i meet who play them at a competant level have trainwreck lives. >cheating/insecure women >dudes who turn into trannies >lonely truckers (the only ones who are even fun to speak to) >incredibly autistic men who make 40k tabletop players seem normal by comparison
mmorpgs have always been the source for the most foul ass stories on the internet when it comes to videogame communities. I am glad they died
Albion is the only MMO worth playing. Even if you aren't into PvP (yet). The PvE is basic but still it got everything and you can play most of the content in safe zones.
No quests, no storyline, and it's not trying to be a singleplayer game like every other MMO.
Literally anything else. Straightforward action-game combat, for instance. Something that actually makes you do what's happening on the screen instead of playing keyboard DDR.
Slow surely doesn't have to mean cooldowns, and the largest portion of the gameplay being fighting game-esque memory games when it comes to rotation being elemental to the formula.
AI generated scenarios and characters that respond to any choice you can imagine. Character.ai RPGs like Isekai RPG were great at this before the lobotomy.
i played dark age of camelot back in like 2002-2004
trying out everquest on P99 green
holy shit this some archaic shit. and i thought classic daoc was dated LMFAO
I have a relationship with runescape similar to the one a heroin addict has with heroin. i can go months without playing it, but once i break the seal i lose months of my life playing essentially a skinner box.
the thing i like about runescape (both versions of it) is that there is literally zero pressure to 'get ahead' nor any fear of 'falling behind'
you can go at it at your own pace forever and make comfy progress for months and never feel like you're going too slow or missing out on something
>be me, 10 years old in 2004 >pick up ragnarok, my first MMO >get hooked big time >can't pay sub so play etherealRO >eventually move onto other games like maple, wow, ffxi, mabinogi, gw1, tera, dragon nest, ffxiv, etcetc >play these horrible games for decades >2022 >realize i've been wasting my time and hard earned money on this awful genre >drop it >save money >finally complete one of my life goals: owning a home >offer accepted and everything >closing in two days >haven't touched a MMO in 6 months >feel better than ever before
I think I'm done with MMOs, man. This stuff is like a hard drug. I can't believe I wasted so many of my years being miserable because the game and community taught me to. Sometimes I'll get that "man I should try x again". Then I remember all the power systems, the enhancing, the gambling, the community part (i fricking hate people now because of this genre), the cash shop bullshit, the cosmetics. I just can't do it anymore. I'm done.
Yeah
Used to play shit like WoW and FFXI but now I'm older I play Eve.
I get drunk and dunk chinks in a 200man fleet every night
Good shit
The latest expansion is pretty good too
No. The gameplay loop is so garbage.
I would be happy to leave MMO gays to their shithole genre theyve helped create thru their demands and whining, but for some reason these idiots are invading the survival genre (ostensibly because theyre sick of the mmo genre) while pushing for more mmo-tier aspects in the games.
Theyre like californians who leave that shithole state and then vote for the same fricking leftist bs they are running away from.
So no, I dont play MMOs but I hate the shitty moronic homosexuals who do
I think it is a smart idea to just do the "play first month of an MMO when everything is new and exciting" pill instead of being addicted to one and only one
Used to enjoy SWTOR when it was getting tons of new content and improvements (around 2012-2015), then it started going downhill when Knights of the Fallen Empire dropped and ever since then I kept losing interest.
Also for how little content there was, I had some fun in Global Agenda (bet you don't remember that one) before it became abandoned and eventually shut down.
>Do you enjoy MMO games?
I used, but they all became pozzed.
Kind of funny because Lotro was the last MMO I still played and the other day it was announced they were adding trannies to the character creation options. Literally nothing is safe and in the end the whole earth will be infected with aids.
I enjoyed my time with FFXIV. I loved the story, and all the FF fanservice like the Omega/Ivalice raids. Pic related was also awesome. Great game overall.
Redpill me on why I should make a pale and blue-eyed blood elf femboy paladin who fricks dragons despite my hate of blizzard and the one thing I still love about them is Alexstrasza
>Do you enjoy MMO games?
I stopped enjoying them when i realized that i'm pretending to be a person in another world and that it's taking away from my real life.
I like the first month or so of an MMO launch, because I can make friends.
It's the only way I really know how to find people to talk to anymore. Ganker is a complete disaster for finding conversation and friends. Tried to join an mc server and it was literally just a bunch of 12-15 year olds. I'm fricking twice that. Maybe I need to just grow up.
That said, I have a couple I can still play regularly, runescape is easy cause it's on mobile and I can just hop on that for a couple minutes here or there to skill or whatever.
Last big MMO I played I think was lost ark, the first few weeks of that were very fun, but I haven't played it since like may of last year, I just quickly fell out of love with it since I was only feasibly allowed to play like 45m a day, then it was locked until the next day. Kinda shit system.
I miss the old days of the Korean f2p invasion, where there was a brand new game every month, everyone was moronic and didn't understand meta, minmaxing, and efficiency wasn't near as widespread as it was now. Everything's so sterile as soon as it's "figured out". It feels like MMOs especially have a very limited lifespan.
Ya KoL. Its worth a play after all these years. At least your first run. But if you wanna get into the weeds of either speed ascending or making a shit ton of money that isnt practical for a new player.
>Do you enjoy MMO games?
I would if there were any.
There hasn't been an MMO since the early 2000s. Everything since then is a bunch of instanced small-party coop mission based raid games with an overworld to wander around in while you're queued for a raid.
Last time I enjoyed MMOs was when I was underage. I could make friends in the game, I could talk with my guildmates, I had fun just leveling up and trying out skills and getting help from others instead of following a guide.
Now I feel like everyone treats others like cogs in the system just to clear content and you can't make connections anymore. The internet has changed too much.
I enjoy social aspect of having friends/enemies especially in small private servers, getting rare items not many have for collection autism, pvp/pk, destroying end game boss, exploration and hate fetch quests, grinding, p2w. Gacha are MMOs but done shittier.
Loves to play lineage 2 but developed into hate after playing long time and starting over many times, loved ragnarok online but sucked also loved Lunia online (far away far away). Last MMO I tried was FFXIV trial and sucked hard
It's an inherently degenerative form. Any online relationship is inherently degenerative of course, and MMO's only exist to foster such things.
Any benefit taken from exposure to art, simulation, is negated by this. MMOs are pure poison.
Its kind of crazy how much money you can make if you get lucky on youtube and "make it". Voice, personality and looks help, but lucking out on the algo is the key.
At the beginning he had to work fairly hard, but now he can just shit out a vid every month (with paid content in it) and get a million views.
Alot of Youtubers even ones you may consider big dont make that much money. Though ya in effort to income its a sweet deal. And yes sadly alot of it is luck and cheesing the system. I have a crappy youtube channel and my most popular is video by a mile is a crappy top 10. The RE3 vid I made which I put a ton of time and effort into got like 100 views. Shit like that sucks since it makes life feel arbitrary and rewards shit behavior. Wait.
Yes it's my favorite genre. I like the variety of activities in a shared world.
Other genres might do those specific activities better except for PvE boss battles for some reason, but there's something soulful in being in a world where you can do many things instead of spread between multiple lobby-games where you do one thing over and over.
I only know about this guy cause he made a video on a game I played and created a massive influx of trend chasing prostitutes that left not even a week afterwards.
just don't let gays meme you into playing swtor. at least for the long term/endgame.
its fine i guess if you just do original class story but you slowly start to see it turn into trash as you get into the expansion, with the latest one taking a shit on gays face.
I hold this guys opinions at arm's length with a big grain of salt because I tried Guild Wars 2 on his recommendation and it's the fricking worst game I've played in my life with terrible gameplay, writing, and hidden costs that nobody mentions.
I think you can tell a lot about someone based on what their opinion of GW2 is. Beyond the obvious BIG titles, I can't think of any other game that is so universally praised in certain circles that, in actuality, is a bland piece of shit quite like GW2. My entire guild from an older MMO I used to play swapped to GW2 when our game was taken offline, so I had more than a few reasons to give it a fair shake - I made multiple characters, put in tons of hours, tried the pvp, even just cracked and bought a level boost to see if the endgame could save it... I don't fricking get it.
No, they just make me incredibly depressed. When I think about an MMORPG I think about how the old internet has been completely obliterated and replaced with something nefarious and how this has affected people. On top of that I just think about how they've overall gotten shittier and more money grubbing, how little competition there is on top of how expensive it is to be competition to begin with makes me think the near future for the genre isn't so bright. They'll be back in VR in about 10 years maybe
I enjoyed FF14, but eventually I got bored and unsubbed. I haven't bothered to resubbed even with the new expansion because I know I'll just end up getting bored with the game again after doing all the savage content and then waiting for new patches rinse and repeat.
this is the only real answer. forced interaction is gay, but part of making an mmorpg feel truly live is seeing people run around do their thing, minding their own business and having the peace of mind from knowing they're real people instead of bots.
I see playing MMORPGs with dead worlds as pointless, and yes, having 90% of the population concentrated into a hand full of locations means the world is dead, powercrept and useless. You're just playing a shittier single player RPG.
>playing vanilla >gathering group for DM >priest asking for invite >party leader rejects him cause priest isnt dwarf
i swear to god those people are completely deranged
Yeah. They're like a better real life. You can choose your character, whatever you want it to look like, what strengths you want it to have. It's not all just random like IRL and also you do simple tasks to progress, unlike real life where basically everything is a fricking chore and can go real wrong.
It wasn't really more about the newer MMOs being bad, it's just that the genre is not really enjoyable now that I have better things to do with my time.
I know one Chinese 2D MMO that I religiously played in the 2000s and even replayed it a few years ago.
I simply love the lore and the design of the world. The closet thing to it is probably Elden Ring.
God he's so handsome
He just looks normal, not noticably handsome but certainly not ugly
Must be the bri'ish accent
literally most of you guys look like that, you just need to shower, shave and get a haircut
Ganker wishes they looked like that
well, you look like that, you are literally the dude in the OP
do you like my mug
you're a mug guy
Agreed I'd let him smash
Your sister or your mom?
my bussy
He looks like a B-list actor.
Which is funny because Josh actually was an actor.
He just lifts, takes care of his skin and dresses well. Anybody could look like that.
Not if you're balding and have worse skeletal structure. "Just lift" is a huge cope for mediocre or worse genes.
nah, he's just not fat and actually takes care of his hygiene
that's literally all it takes to mog 80% of men
>taking care of your hygiene will improve your jawline and make you taller bro
if you have a decent jawline not being fat will absolutely help you
Some portion of women will not date you if you have a weak jawline or are short
All women will not date you if you smell like shit
Simple as
you may not become a gigachad, but losing weight is almost guaranteed to make you much more attractive than you currently are
go ask Ganker about the leanpill
>I want to keep making defeatist excuses to live like a slob
NGMI
How can you have a bad jawline if you keep chewing food all the time, fatso?
uhhhh okay
Yes. I acknowledge they are flawed in many ways, but I have made friends and enjoyed wonderful moments in them. Same could be said of many games, but I also enjoy being able to emotionally invest in a character long term
Used to, when they were good. Not so much anymore.
It's not even so much that the games were good, it's that the community was better.
If I were to hop on a MMO now I wouldn't be massively multiplayering, I'd be soloing. You'd have to be gay or want to be gay to talk to any of the other homosexuals out there and party up.
>solo bad
>also solo good
solo bad before because people were better and more naive about the world and internet. solo good now because people are insufferable and are blackpilled depressed homosexuals that only play mmos to supplement their misery
Another case of Americans thinking "if I sound really British they will assume I have correct opinions"
It has to the the right type. People aren't going to flock to someone sounding like they're from Essex
That's funny, nobody thinks Taliesin has correct opinions and he's some kind of bong.
yeah but Taliesin is a goblin in human form, he has psychopath eyes and i would never be alone in a room with him
He definitely beats his wife he has that sex pest neo-liberal twitter c**t vibe
hes a good looking well dressed (and white) british man with the right accent.
of course people think he knows what hes talking about even if a lot of what he says is completely moronic
Josh is one of the examples of saying correct things and not being wrong in any way shape or form. He is legit a good example of a well researched well spoken good looking lad that has good observations about the medium. The opposite of 99% of bongs on youtube. He is a literal exemption to the rule.
I have not played one since classic vanilla and archeage unchained back in 2019/20. I'd like for ashes of creation to not be a scam or meme, but I won't hold my breath for it when getting burned is the norm in mmos.
I just ignored the channel from recommendations when I kept seeing clickbait videos.
Not since FFXI ToAH era
My homie.
It all went downhill from there on out.
Nope. Its a terrible genre with no good games. Pure tedium. I feel the same about loot games like destiny and diablo.
thats because youre moronic and play shit games. this is always the case for this genre.
>thats because youre moronic and play shit games
Irony
Nope. RPG shit is all tedious rubbish. I only play action games with no stats that I can beat in under 20 hours and move on. Every single mmo ever is shit and every single loot game ever is shit.
I don't even play MMOs but I still watch him for some reason, the only thing about him that annoys me is when he says "MMORPG games", the G already means games, you don't have to say it twice.
no, and i never will. i like listening to people sperg out about the things they enjoy, though.
"enjoy" is subjective
i play MMOs, and i fall into a deep depression if i don't
That is an addiction and I hope you get the help you need
I started to play retail Everquest again. And i've dabbled in Pokemmo since 2012.
His videos are pretty comfy, glad i got recommended them
>What is an MMORPG
The fact he thinks there's some kind of subjective definition behind this term made me realize how low iq he is but i still love his vids.
He is kind of right. The nomenclature for MMORPG is kind of outdated. However he is also ignoring the fact that people understand clearly what an MMORPG is, even if it doesn't fit the definition anymore. And this happen in all sort of fields.
Example, you don't see people (at least rational ones) trying to change the name of the Red Panda for what it actually is, which is not a panda nor a bear as well.
I think your talking about language and how it can change in time but he specifically said that he thinks that MMORPGs can be different things to different people.
Oh, you are right.
He's not wrong. Guild Wars 1 is almost two decades old and people still argue to this day whether it's an MMORPG or not based on their own genre definition.
If you have to argue about it then it definitely isn't an MMO
I stopped watching when he made some cope explanation for why he puts "worst game ever?" in the title of his videos. It's painfully obviously clickbait to trick people who have nostalgia for those games, but he went on to say "n-no it's just the name of a series I do, I'm not calling it worst game ever that's just wrong you're wrong"
I mean come on, that's just having contempt for your audience
Bro he's on seventy layers of irony and british, did you see that time he reacted to an Asmongold reaction for 4 hours?
My mug isn't unique enough to get it I suppose
I... I can't... wtf?
Show me one time when he did this.
Don't bother posting an entry from his Worst MMO Ever playlist.
he didn't even really make an excuse for it, he's said point-blank that he chose that name for the series because negative titles do better than positive ones.
Are there any MMOs worth trying now?
Apparently FF14 is the god tier of all of them but I just kinda ran errands in a desert and got bored.
FF14 is ass. There are no good MMOs out right now.
Yeah I've been playing wow and destiny 2 to attempt and fill the void but there really is nothing worthwhile. I want to pick up Speedruns of some game since that will be more fulfilling
FF14 is an RPG with raids, the best stuff in the game is the single player content.
depends on what the frick are you looking for in a mmo. the genre is too big to be dedicated to just "raid games"
I really don't know. They seem so very interesting but I played World of Warcraft for a couple weeks at launch and didn't like it, and I didn't like Final Fantasy 14. I hear WoW is vastly different now though, I thought about giving it another go.
>They seem so interesting
what objective gameplay mechanics make it interesting to you besides "raiding"
I dont know what "raiding" is, I'm legitimately 100% MMO illiterate. The idea of sharing a world and making an impact on that world, I guess. Or at least that's what I hear it's about. Like occasionally Eve Online makes the news because something crazy happened in it (I hear this game is only for 400iq geniuses so I'm not going there).
YouTube autoplayed some World if Warcraft history video, and I was like "damn, that sounds so cool, wish I could have experienced that".
If I'm making any sense.
In most MMOs you have no impact on the world, and sharing just means seeing other people but never talking. Back in 2005 people did talk in MMOs but once social media came around the idea was dead.
In EVE you do have impact but it's literally like having a second job, you might as well play microsoft excel 90% of the time.
In EvE you kind of have to have 2 or 3 characters set up to play optimally which can be a bit disheartening
I learned to relax on that front after I found out that the hard core adherrants have, on average, 3 - 4 ACCOUNTS (which can have up to 3 characters each). Once you realise you'd have to devote all your free time and likely an ammount comparable to your ground rent a year to play optimally it's easier to accept the sub optimal life style of having one account and one character like me
Unfortunately what people don't like to talk about in 14 is that the base game is absolute gutter trash, and asking someone to play 100-something hours to get where it "gets good" is asking too much of people. Plus, once you get to the good part, there's no guarantee that you'll actually like the story since that's going to be subjective.
If a story doesn't grab you, then you have to depend on the gameplay of an MMO to grab you, but you have to already be in the mood for a tab-targetting MMO for that (which is a very outdated model of MMORPG at this point).
So IF you get through that first hump, and you're lucky enough to be the type of person that will enjoy the story once it actually starts getting good, its' amazing. But how the absolute frick are you supposed to know if it works for you to begin with?
There's watching a streamer whos at a good expansion, but that's also a big time investment that might not pay off.
>base game is absolute gutter trash
I disagree. It's just that it introduces the settings and the story feels like a classic FF (think FFIII) before expanding tremendously throughout the next expansions. A lot of people talk shit about ARR but it's actually not bad at all.
it would be fine if it wasn't mind numbing easy and full off "go talk to this character across the map
character says i you're in the wrong area go talk to other character across the map" x4
>easy
I bet you never cleared Nael even in normal sync, let alone Bahamut.
Lost Ark is the only one
>FF14
Isn't even an MMO. It's a single player game with occasional MP content.
You're not gonna find a good modern MMO, because millennials helped kill the genre.
https://culturess.com/2023/04/15/study-shows-millennials-play-video-games-generation
>Millennials’ favorite genre includes MMO games, which are Massively Multiplayer Online role-playing games such as the Final Fantasy series, Star Wars Galaxies, and World of Warcraft. 41% of Millennial users selected MMO games as their favorite genre, followed by 27% picking strategy games, such as Crusader Kings, and 26% selecting RPG, or role-playing games, such as Elden Ring.
Millennials killed the genre
>Millennials killed the genre
Yep.
The genre, when it first hit the scene was this sort of lived in virtual world.
They monetized the genre by turning it into a skinnerbox scam and millenials demanded more.
>They monetized the genre by turning it into a skinnerbox scam
This was always the case with MMOs
>strategy games that high
>no BRs/shooters mentioned
[x] doubt
>Isn't even an MMO. It's a single player game with occasional MP content.
This is why I fall out of it every time I try to restart.
I want to play with other people, but nobody, literally NOBODY is in the same part of the 4000 part MSQ that I am in. I only ever see people in dungeons and it's never enough to get to know anyone. It's a fricking miserable experience being in IRC chat while I'm going through the LONGEST fricking themepark ever.
Millennials are the only ones still playing the genre lol.
>because millennials helped kill the genre.
millennials are married 40 year olds with 2 kids, a 1.7mil dollar mortgage and cram in FFXI parties or Eve Online fleets after they send their kids to bed
you're thinking of zoomers
>He thinks zoomers actually play MMOs.
Yo buddy. Millennials were the last big age group to get into the genre.
You don't hear zoomers talking about how they want a new MMO, you hear it from millennials who constantly crave and chase MMOs
>You don't hear zoomers talking about how they want a new MMO
FF14 and Fortnite
You don't actually think zoomers are getting into FF14 do you?
FF14 is not new and Fortnite is a shooter
yes
they also play casualgay ""MMO"" shit like Elden Ring and New World
>casualgay ""MMO"" shit like Elden Ring and New World
One of these is very much unlike the other.
>millennials who constantly crave and chase MMOs
they still just play one of picrel my guy
I don't see Phantasy Star Online in there.
I've been playing Black Desert on and off and it's pretty much not worth it, despite the combat probably being the best MMO combat since BnS
We'll never have good MMOs, the modern games industry values greed far too much
I'm hoping the Tree of Savior relaunch isn't a flop
For some reason, freedom and dynamic gameplay have been inseparably joined to hardcore poopsocking design philosophy in MMOs despite the fact that these two things do not need to go together. So you either end up with a casual button clicker with uninspired quests or an unappealing design on top of interesting mechanics.
I'm just waiting for the new SMT Imagine private server at this point.
yes. theyre fun to hop into and grind out for a month or 2 but after that it gets stale. i wish sega didnt frick PSO2 so bad because it was the only one i actually had legit fun with
Sometimes I go back and play on that City of Heroes private server
reminds me of better times in the early 00s...
Last MMO I played was city of heroes on a private server and I genuinely hope everyone on that server is tortured and killed by a pack of wolves.
It was infuriating, but not surprising, how the process of setting servers up immediately got took over by trannies. I have never went from so excited to play something to so fricking disappointed
I did when I was a kid but I quickly realized how shitty the genre is with all the cases of P2W and manipulative skinnerbox gameplay. MMOs hold infinite possibilities though which makes them so exciting to talk about, it's like a pandora's box waiting to be opened.
are people upset because he rightfully roasted Diablo Shitmortals or why is this board hating on the dude
no clue who the homosexual in the op is
It is Josh Hays A Youtuber withe a mug fetish mostly know for his series "Worst MMO Ever" where he attempts to play every MMO ever to find the worst one
No, I enjoy lobby based online coop games like MonHun or GBF, they are like mmo but you can do your own things without other people getting in your way and you can always call your friend to do something together.
MMOs are a relic of an earlier internet where the concept of playing with other people online in a video game was something seen as impossibly huge. Everything is multiplayer these days so that novelty has worn off. The “massive” worlds that MMOs promise end up being dead after a few months anyway since everyone will just be AFKing in a city. Just look at WoW. Apparently all the zones of a previous expansion end up being abandoned when a new expansion comes out with newer zones. Essentially the “world” is comprised of dead malls
>dead malls
Good analogy
I used to, not a lot of good ones around anymore and there is a new one every 2-4 years that turns to shit.
I did everything the ff14 free trial allowed but I dont think im going to buy the full thing
Only if the "die" and come back as an offline, single player experience with no microtransactions. Tedium, extreme grinding included.
Hellgate: London did just that, and it was OK.
I love his worst MMO ever series. Dude forces himself to play the absolute shittiest mmos for 10+ hours so we don't have to.
No because they are repetitive and drag on forever, just like this pretentious frick's videos.
>Pretentious
>i dont the way he talks so hes pretentious
my guy this is the same dude that goes on tangents about how he doesnt really know anything more than anyone else while shitposting with 5 different picture in pictures on his screen.
the guy has also actually done a shitton of different jobs and is a legitimate dinosaur of Neverwinter and made guides, so if anyone is a pretentious frick its you. thats not to say i dont know why you think that, repetition is a core tenet of solidifying a point and cementing information and prevents veering off topic.
if you think hes pretentious youre a moron who cant get past someone being educated but you can still not like much of his content which i dont bar the Worst series
i haven't played an mmo hardcore for maybe 8 years
the first one i ever sunk time into is actually still up and running and still seems to have ok playerbase so im wondering if i should try it again
Josh is fricking goated and i don't wanna hear a negative word about him.
FF14 is literally the best game of all time
he was really good in the 5th Season of The Magicians kek
I enjoy GW2
The only good Bong youtuber. I like that he actually can dictate and makes an effort to be heard clearly through his accent.
In theory, yes. MMOs would be my favorite genre.
Sadly, in 20 years, we haven't moved past basic skinnerboxes and grindfests, so I don't play any currently.
Imagine if all shooters were still Quake and never tried anything different. That's MMOs.
What are some MMOs coming out worth keeping up with? I want something with world pvp and have no interest in ashes of creation with its insanely cancerous corruption system.
FFXIV
All MMO-gays remember: Rope now. Do it faster rather than slower.
How do I optimize my RPS (ropes per second)?
This homosexual always has the most surface level opinions.
His Max Payne video was so terrible I stopped watching any of his videos.
MMOs could have more farming elements like Harvest Moon and more reasons for social gathering so when people are sick of combat they have something else to do like the off time moments in a pen and paper RPG.
Nah, lol. what people want is more epic raiding and gear numbers and more numbers!!!
interacting? In an mmo? don't be stupid.
Raiding is interacting moron
Daily fetch quests to raise your heart score with some npc is not
>raiding is interacting
I can tell you've never raided seriously if you think raids are interacting.
Raids are watching an hour long youtube video and then morons occasionally getting yelled at for not doing what was on the video. And then some minor autism over loot.
Fighting a boss and communicating with other players is literally interacting you tard
Again, you haven't raided much if you think fighting bosses involves talking to other players.
He was being sarcastic you absolute mong
I enjoy the genre, just not any game currently in it.
Are there any good ones left?
I'm gonna say it: I like this guy. He has very basic opinions but his observations about MMO stuff have helped me notice and figure out stuff in games that I play. He's very well informed in that one topic I feel.
I used to but I outgrew them.
I don't but can't stop playing them
I think they're a relic of the past. A shambling corpse of what used to be a respectable gaming genre.
I never played WoW but this pic is sad. I played Aion for years and became one of the best sorcerers on the server. I was in the second highest ranked guild on our faction for a while until we eventually passed #1 (dead for many months) and became the top guild on the faction. By then the game was pretty dead.
I'll never forget the final days where I logged in and guild chat was dead. Looking for group was dead. World chat was dead. I even logged into an alt in the opposing faction and that was dead as well.
If you can cope with ARR and Post ARR, you'll probably love FFXIV, but that's about 120h of gameplay until the game gets good.
I enjoy them conceptually, but in reality they all suck ass one way or another.
I liked The Matrix Online
>Do you enjoy MMO games?
no they are boring and the people i meet who play them at a competant level have trainwreck lives.
>cheating/insecure women
>dudes who turn into trannies
>lonely truckers (the only ones who are even fun to speak to)
>incredibly autistic men who make 40k tabletop players seem normal by comparison
mmorpgs have always been the source for the most foul ass stories on the internet when it comes to videogame communities. I am glad they died
I did, but with the lack of good new MMOs and not wanting to waste my life any more than I have I don't play them anymore.
If I could live forever I'd play all these shitty MMOs.
Albion is the only MMO worth playing. Even if you aren't into PvP (yet). The PvE is basic but still it got everything and you can play most of the content in safe zones.
No quests, no storyline, and it's not trying to be a singleplayer game like every other MMO.
>t.albion israelitetube advert shill
https://www.unseen64.net/tag/mmorpg/
No because I hate cooldown-based combat and at some point devs decided it was impossible to make an MMO without them
What do you want instead?
Literally anything else. Straightforward action-game combat, for instance. Something that actually makes you do what's happening on the screen instead of playing keyboard DDR.
>no cooldowns
>no DDR
Play D2 then
If you mean Dota 2, MOBAs=/=mmos, and that's still cooldown bullshit
No, Diablo 2
Granted, but it would be nice if there were more traditional open-world third-person mmos that fit the bill
The combat is usually slow on purpose because lots of players will have slow internet and there's no filter to remove them from your experience.
Slow surely doesn't have to mean cooldowns, and the largest portion of the gameplay being fighting game-esque memory games when it comes to rotation being elemental to the formula.
Yeah, but after years of bouncing between MMOs, I somehow stopped bouncing in 2019 and the only MMO I still play is ffxiv.
No, I have real social life.
When is the eve online review bro
I haven't really enjoyed one since my teens. I haven't played one for a long time now either.
AI generated scenarios and characters that respond to any choice you can imagine. Character.ai RPGs like Isekai RPG were great at this before the lobotomy.
In theory, yes.
i played dark age of camelot back in like 2002-2004
trying out everquest on P99 green
holy shit this some archaic shit. and i thought classic daoc was dated LMFAO
I have a relationship with runescape similar to the one a heroin addict has with heroin. i can go months without playing it, but once i break the seal i lose months of my life playing essentially a skinner box.
i am also a gondola and runescape enjoyer
the thing i like about runescape (both versions of it) is that there is literally zero pressure to 'get ahead' nor any fear of 'falling behind'
you can go at it at your own pace forever and make comfy progress for months and never feel like you're going too slow or missing out on something
>be me, 10 years old in 2004
>pick up ragnarok, my first MMO
>get hooked big time
>can't pay sub so play etherealRO
>eventually move onto other games like maple, wow, ffxi, mabinogi, gw1, tera, dragon nest, ffxiv, etcetc
>play these horrible games for decades
>2022
>realize i've been wasting my time and hard earned money on this awful genre
>drop it
>save money
>finally complete one of my life goals: owning a home
>offer accepted and everything
>closing in two days
>haven't touched a MMO in 6 months
>feel better than ever before
I think I'm done with MMOs, man. This stuff is like a hard drug. I can't believe I wasted so many of my years being miserable because the game and community taught me to. Sometimes I'll get that "man I should try x again". Then I remember all the power systems, the enhancing, the gambling, the community part (i fricking hate people now because of this genre), the cash shop bullshit, the cosmetics. I just can't do it anymore. I'm done.
People who say ARR sucks have simply never played older FF games. Probably started with X or something.
Albion almost got me back into MMO games, but losing your gear and having everything be player based is kind of dumb.
T4 gear is super cheap and decent enough for WPVP from the last time I played last year
literally what is the point of playing an mmo if not to get the best gear though?
Yeah
Used to play shit like WoW and FFXI but now I'm older I play Eve.
I get drunk and dunk chinks in a 200man fleet every night
Good shit
The latest expansion is pretty good too
Only good ones like Maplestory
>maplestory is a zombie
>latale is dead
>don't really like Elsword
Any good side scroller MMOs out there?
No. The gameplay loop is so garbage.
I would be happy to leave MMO gays to their shithole genre theyve helped create thru their demands and whining, but for some reason these idiots are invading the survival genre (ostensibly because theyre sick of the mmo genre) while pushing for more mmo-tier aspects in the games.
Theyre like californians who leave that shithole state and then vote for the same fricking leftist bs they are running away from.
So no, I dont play MMOs but I hate the shitty moronic homosexuals who do
I think it is a smart idea to just do the "play first month of an MMO when everything is new and exciting" pill instead of being addicted to one and only one
Nowadays you're just as likely to get dead servers and super broken shit when a game launches.
Used to enjoy SWTOR when it was getting tons of new content and improvements (around 2012-2015), then it started going downhill when Knights of the Fallen Empire dropped and ever since then I kept losing interest.
Also for how little content there was, I had some fun in Global Agenda (bet you don't remember that one) before it became abandoned and eventually shut down.
Those sure were better times...
Would you believe me if I said I've never played RO?
Any good private servers?
Dark souls Online when. It makes perfect sense, make an MMO with actual good combat
the mmo that'll save Ganker
censored already LOL
play the jp version
>Do you enjoy MMO games?
I used, but they all became pozzed.
Kind of funny because Lotro was the last MMO I still played and the other day it was announced they were adding trannies to the character creation options. Literally nothing is safe and in the end the whole earth will be infected with aids.
I enjoyed my time with FFXIV. I loved the story, and all the FF fanservice like the Omega/Ivalice raids. Pic related was also awesome. Great game overall.
I love MMOs but they all suck nowadays. The dark ages will never end.
Well I'm still playing wow since 2004 so i guess?
Loving swtor
Growing to love ff14
Redpill me on why I should make a pale and blue-eyed blood elf femboy paladin who fricks dragons despite my hate of blizzard and the one thing I still love about them is Alexstrasza
>Isn't even an MMO. It's a single player game with occasional MP content.
Wait until you learn this is what the MMO audience wants nowadays.
all I want is a good fricking BOW CLASS
not a pet class you fricking nerds
Any mmo's worth playing even in 2023 Anno Domini ?
It's been the same games for the last decade. You can play wow or final fantasy or one of the million pay 2 win asiatic games. That's it.
>Loving swtor
>Do you enjoy MMO games?
I stopped enjoying them when i realized that i'm pretending to be a person in another world and that it's taking away from my real life.
I like the first month or so of an MMO launch, because I can make friends.
It's the only way I really know how to find people to talk to anymore. Ganker is a complete disaster for finding conversation and friends. Tried to join an mc server and it was literally just a bunch of 12-15 year olds. I'm fricking twice that. Maybe I need to just grow up.
That said, I have a couple I can still play regularly, runescape is easy cause it's on mobile and I can just hop on that for a couple minutes here or there to skill or whatever.
Last big MMO I played I think was lost ark, the first few weeks of that were very fun, but I haven't played it since like may of last year, I just quickly fell out of love with it since I was only feasibly allowed to play like 45m a day, then it was locked until the next day. Kinda shit system.
I miss the old days of the Korean f2p invasion, where there was a brand new game every month, everyone was moronic and didn't understand meta, minmaxing, and efficiency wasn't near as widespread as it was now. Everything's so sterile as soon as it's "figured out". It feels like MMOs especially have a very limited lifespan.
Exactly how I feel. So much is only worth it if you get in on the ground floor. Otherwise why even bother.
>but I know I can never go back
>play gw2 still
>just frick around in world vs world pvp
its fun
No. Mmos are barely videogames.
le posh mmo man
Well at least he liked Albion, i thought he would hate it because he doesn't like pvp.
i like the idea, but they're all shit except for ascension wow
Yeah I'm playing XIV and XI on the side. It's pretty good.
Are there any good mmos that can be played for free or real cheap
Kingdom of Loathing
Ya KoL. Its worth a play after all these years. At least your first run. But if you wanna get into the weeds of either speed ascending or making a shit ton of money that isnt practical for a new player.
Feels like MMO games are either a boring grind or pay to win garbage.
Sometimes both.
>Do you enjoy MMO games?
I would if there were any.
There hasn't been an MMO since the early 2000s. Everything since then is a bunch of instanced small-party coop mission based raid games with an overworld to wander around in while you're queued for a raid.
I like SOME of his videos. SOME. No homo.
Josh "FF14 is bad, no wait it's good now, no wait it's bad again" Strife Hayes
when did he say ff14 is bad again?
Never.
Last time I enjoyed MMOs was when I was underage. I could make friends in the game, I could talk with my guildmates, I had fun just leveling up and trying out skills and getting help from others instead of following a guide.
Now I feel like everyone treats others like cogs in the system just to clear content and you can't make connections anymore. The internet has changed too much.
I used to but now I don't have patience for them
no and i never will be happy my noob ass isnt wasting server space
I enjoy social aspect of having friends/enemies especially in small private servers, getting rare items not many have for collection autism, pvp/pk, destroying end game boss, exploration and hate fetch quests, grinding, p2w. Gacha are MMOs but done shittier.
Loves to play lineage 2 but developed into hate after playing long time and starting over many times, loved ragnarok online but sucked also loved Lunia online (far away far away). Last MMO I tried was FFXIV trial and sucked hard
It's an inherently degenerative form. Any online relationship is inherently degenerative of course, and MMO's only exist to foster such things.
Any benefit taken from exposure to art, simulation, is negated by this. MMOs are pure poison.
Its kind of crazy how much money you can make if you get lucky on youtube and "make it". Voice, personality and looks help, but lucking out on the algo is the key.
At the beginning he had to work fairly hard, but now he can just shit out a vid every month (with paid content in it) and get a million views.
Alot of Youtubers even ones you may consider big dont make that much money. Though ya in effort to income its a sweet deal. And yes sadly alot of it is luck and cheesing the system. I have a crappy youtube channel and my most popular is video by a mile is a crappy top 10. The RE3 vid I made which I put a ton of time and effort into got like 100 views. Shit like that sucks since it makes life feel arbitrary and rewards shit behavior. Wait.
That's just life in general. The right place, time, and person happens and the all of a sudden everything can get a lot better.
Yeah I play ff14 and 11.
I play retail ffxi and play on a psu server called clementine.
New world was the worst I ever played so gonna be a while before I get fricked over by an mmo again.
Why yes I am enjoying Gloria Victis right now
https://store.steampowered.com/app/327070/Gloria_Victis_Medieval_MMORPG/
Yes it's my favorite genre. I like the variety of activities in a shared world.
Other genres might do those specific activities better except for PvE boss battles for some reason, but there's something soulful in being in a world where you can do many things instead of spread between multiple lobby-games where you do one thing over and over.
not really
the community elements are rarely enough to offset the tremendous grinds and terrible, terrible gameplay
Only the ones with mandatory world PvP that forces PvEshitters out in the jungle to get killed.
I only know about this guy cause he made a video on a game I played and created a massive influx of trend chasing prostitutes that left not even a week afterwards.
Not really.
I'm finding a new MMO.
Play Aion Classic
shill it
It's like WoW but it's a Korean pay to win grindfest.
>V rising
>mmo
what
IDK I took it from some MMO youtuber
>its wow and FF again
top jej
also how the frick v rising is an mmo
There are only 3 MMO on the market. WoW, Final Fantasy and the contrarian option.
just don't let gays meme you into playing swtor. at least for the long term/endgame.
its fine i guess if you just do original class story but you slowly start to see it turn into trash as you get into the expansion, with the latest one taking a shit on gays face.
I hold this guys opinions at arm's length with a big grain of salt because I tried Guild Wars 2 on his recommendation and it's the fricking worst game I've played in my life with terrible gameplay, writing, and hidden costs that nobody mentions.
I think you can tell a lot about someone based on what their opinion of GW2 is. Beyond the obvious BIG titles, I can't think of any other game that is so universally praised in certain circles that, in actuality, is a bland piece of shit quite like GW2. My entire guild from an older MMO I used to play swapped to GW2 when our game was taken offline, so I had more than a few reasons to give it a fair shake - I made multiple characters, put in tons of hours, tried the pvp, even just cracked and bought a level boost to see if the endgame could save it... I don't fricking get it.
No, they just make me incredibly depressed. When I think about an MMORPG I think about how the old internet has been completely obliterated and replaced with something nefarious and how this has affected people. On top of that I just think about how they've overall gotten shittier and more money grubbing, how little competition there is on top of how expensive it is to be competition to begin with makes me think the near future for the genre isn't so bright. They'll be back in VR in about 10 years maybe
>everyone expecting you to learn everything before you even start
>daily chores
>boring combat
>crafting is almost useless
i dont see why i would
I enjoyed FF14, but eventually I got bored and unsubbed. I haven't bothered to resubbed even with the new expansion because I know I'll just end up getting bored with the game again after doing all the savage content and then waiting for new patches rinse and repeat.
I like seeing people running around doing their own thing in the over-world, but I hate any forced group content.
this is the only real answer. forced interaction is gay, but part of making an mmorpg feel truly live is seeing people run around do their thing, minding their own business and having the peace of mind from knowing they're real people instead of bots.
Let me guess, you live in a big city.
>Projection from a Paki living in London
Shoo! Shoo!
i live in the middle of nowhere and have no interest in living in a big city with stinking Black folk lurking about. nice try though moron
And yet you want your MMOs to be like the big city, curious. Must be the "grass is greener" effect.
I live in the middle of nowhere and don't speak to 99% of the people that I walk by. Maybe I'll say good morning or good afternoon, but that's it.
I see playing MMORPGs with dead worlds as pointless, and yes, having 90% of the population concentrated into a hand full of locations means the world is dead, powercrept and useless. You're just playing a shittier single player RPG.
Oh really? What game am I playing?
play gw2
>playing vanilla
>gathering group for DM
>priest asking for invite
>party leader rejects him cause priest isnt dwarf
i swear to god those people are completely deranged
Archage was fantastic until they fricked it up with p2w, Archage 2 will probably be fantastic as well. until they frick it up with p2w
Yeah. They're like a better real life. You can choose your character, whatever you want it to look like, what strengths you want it to have. It's not all just random like IRL and also you do simple tasks to progress, unlike real life where basically everything is a fricking chore and can go real wrong.
i wanna suck josh hayes dick!!
I loved them when I lived away from my sister, now we live together and we barely touch them
Come home, white man.
Yes
I just want to grind completely alone inside a dead MMORPG. In my eyes, anything over 100 concurrent players is alive and thriving.
No. They're just gambling simulators that have neither good gameplay or stories.
At best they encourage talking with other players, but it seems even these days they just expect you to only be in discord with your other friends.
No but I still watch around 9 out of every 10 videos he releases.
I like World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XIV, Guild Wars 2, Maplestory, Black Desert. I want to try Blue Protocol soon.
I just started playing Wakfu. It's cool. What's Dokfu?
It wasn't really more about the newer MMOs being bad, it's just that the genre is not really enjoyable now that I have better things to do with my time.
Wake me up when GW3, Archeage 2, or the Riot mmo is out
RIP
I know one Chinese 2D MMO that I religiously played in the 2000s and even replayed it a few years ago.
I simply love the lore and the design of the world. The closet thing to it is probably Elden Ring.
classic EQ is fun.
I miss RS. New World had so much potential. Is Albion Online worth trying?
>Is Albion Online worth trying
are you ready to grind 18 hours every day?
A reminder to all the MMO gays here: Rope.
No.
Seems like Perfect World is getting a sequel and it's having a beta soon, 'Perfect New World'
Thought you all should know.
only lotro