This may sound like a joke, but this is their end goal all along. Normalizing bestiality, pedophilia, necrophilia and every other evil.
And we can cross bestiality off that list now, seeing the reaction to the bear sex scene. Next is pedophilia (but only for brown people and white kids)
>next is pedophilia
If what you say is true, then everyone of you wienersuckers are fricked. I don't want to hear moralhomosexualry from a board full of people circlejerking it to 3dcg little girls.
Difference is, they're jerking to 3d renders and drawings while Abdul will be raping and murdering real kids. If you're trying to equate the two, you might as well call anyone that has ever played a videogame a murderer. You are fricking moronic.
I was just playing Fallout 76 and a drunkard was asking me for liquor, so I gave him liquor till he drank himself to death and then I looted the caps off his body. I thought it was funny.
This is autism. A well-written character will make you think of them as someone real and you'll care what happens, even though you know it's fantasy.
Problem is nobody actually writes good characters anymore. Just pleasing or grating.
>This is autism
Only to extent. I was diagnosed 29 years ago, and I can certainly tell reality from fiction (was actually pretty good with that at a young age). Being autism though, I still can't help but treat in-game characters as if they're real in a way.
https://i.imgur.com/EPLpmWs.jpg
Do you ever feel legitimately guilty for making evil choices in video games?
So to answer OP, if nothing else I do occasionally feel a bit uncomfortable making evil actions. Even with a bit of a silly game like fable 2, worst I usually do is fart in a crowd then flip the bird. Games like gta are a whole other thing though, give no fricks there.
Not that anon but when I think of shit i feel guilt over its things I can remember even back to childhood, comparing that to some event in a video is moronic. You are the autist.
This is autism. A well-written character will make you think of them as someone real and you'll care what happens, even though you know it's fantasy.
Problem is nobody actually writes good characters anymore. Just pleasing or grating.
"Brainlet who thinks he's smart" take
You can feel things from a book you're really into, this doesnt mean the reader cant tell if its fake, same for movies. >I dont feel things with music because I can tell its just notes in an order
Fricking Christ, what a moronic take.
NTA but you've never felt a disconnect between your own morality and what is portrayed as the "good" choice in a game?
In BG3, there is a guy who allows refugees to temporarily stay in his house, then wants to get rid of them.
The "good" choice is to side with the refugees whose logic is: "You have a big house and we have no house, so you should let us stay here."
The "bad" choice is to side with the house owner, whose logic is: "This is my house. Respect my decision to ask you to leave."
If you side with the refugees, they reward you with finding out the guy wanted them to leave because he was hiding something in his basement.
If you side with the home owner, you're forced to kill some guards and then you're forced to witness the refugees whine and be upset before they run away.
While it's understandable to feel bad for the refugees, the guy just wanted his house. Why lay it on the player so heavy?
occasionally you'll get an "evil" option that isn't evil at all. I remember a choice in me2 where shooting the murderer who pulled a gun on you is the """evil""" option
Maybe you just need to think more thoroughly to find the which answer really is good. Maybe you lack empathy. Maybe you would understand if you'd ever experienced being a refugee.
>Maybe you would understand if you'd ever experienced being a refugee.
something tells me swen wasn't helping at the soup kitchen during the migrant crisis either.
homie I've done couch surfing before, both as an adult and as a child. The person being lent a room and board for little to no fee/rent should be sucking the toes of whoever is gracious and kind enough to do that. Especially for strangers they've never met and of a different race.
During WW2 my grandma's family was hiding a israelite, this guy brought over all his food reserves, but he wouldn't share it, the family had to sell their israeliteelry to him to get some food, lmao, a stereotype even during such harsh times.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Your family is at fault for every character in bg3 being a homosexual
No, in fact you just have a fricked up weird sense of morality that ends up transgressing against what is actually moral and you should be prohibited from promoting it lol
Funny how you twatter activists like to talk but I never see you hosing 3 families of Black folk or sandBlack folk in your walled community condo paid by your trust fund, huh.
So when will you be taking in some refugees? They don't need much space, you can probably house 2 along with you even in a tiny apartment, you shouldn't have any problems with that right? You going to sign up for that now? Right now?
>If you side with the refugees, they reward you with finding out the guy wanted them to leave because he was hiding something in his basement.
It's not that simlpe. You can find out about the basement before having to make either choice about refugees, and you can easily rp that as the motivation for why you're getting involved.
Imagine being so fragile that a choice like that made you seethe. Choices are: >let them stay >why can't you work something out with them? >yeah they should get out >I don't want to get involved
You can find out about his basement with detect thoughts, a passive insight check, or by checking out material in his house. If you side with the refugees, you can also have to fight the guy's mercs, which is the other side of the guards being called.
It's such an even-handed interaction, with the only people who approves or disapproves either way are they big moralgays Karlach and Wyll, that I have no idea why you'd feel like the game was lecturing about your morality.
to be honest, id trust a high-functioning psychopath more than an overly emotional wreck
at least the first can stay rational
the problem is that you have all these "psychopaths" that appear on tv because they killed somekne or whatever, and those are the extremely insane ones
most likely, a psychopath would just reason how to not get into trouble and live a calm life, of course murder would get cops to arrest you and would frick your life over, empathy is optional to come to this conclusion
conrad verner. he deserves it tho since he's actually moronic. plus if you set him right in 1 and 2 and help some other chick at the bar in 1 he helps out on the crucible.
My favorite power fantasy is to do good deeds, be a goody-two-shoes until I get enough power to break the game. Then, I slowly start to betray everyone when it's convenient. Slowly go from picking only good choices to evil ones. So far, I don't know of any game that enables this behavior or acknowledges it. The closest thing is Planescape.
My MO in both real life and games is to be good when I am weak and dependent on others, only turning into an butthole when I have some power over people.
For an example you can buy out all hospitals when the plague hits and let everyone else die. You can become the political elite. Sell your enemies daughters into prostitution. Torture your enemies to death. Game the court system. Schmittean game.
I usually just dont bother because it's almost always the most boring choice. The only evil path I can think of that was worth playing was ME2 renegade where you're legitimately just an unhinged dude who's self aware he's the protagonist so he has no issues doing things like kicking people off a 10 mile high balcony for a minor disagreement.
Honestly being a renegade in ME isn't even evil, if you make all the bad choices you're basically just a highly effective soldier who is willing to do whatever it takes to make sure humanity dominates over the aliums.
Ruthless, but not really evil. Playing an evil character in Dragon Age Origins IIRC felt a lot more actually evil
Overlord everyone was evil even the heroes so even though you play a villain you still end up doing mostly good.
>Do a normal run, Alfria's story about her teacher is nice and somewhat touching as she dedicates a song to her >other run, literally grab her fricking lute and smash it on the grab >the Durge interaction
God damn some people see the sweet stuff in life and the others tear it down
I'd smash it on 'evil' playthroughs, but then how will I get my non-bards to perform with instruments? Therefore, her lute remains unsmashed but Dirge thanks her for teaching him to play by butchering her.
People like (you) are literally the reason they are portrayed as they are in the handbooks etc, because people don't trust them out of hand rightfully so because they are fricking gypsy thieves
Another moron who doesn't understand what a Tiefling is. Tieflings are just a human, elf, or orc with some devil / demon in their bloodline from one of their ancestors. It's entirely possible for two humans to give birth to a tiefling
I'll care when he comes down here to tell me himself.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Be careful what you wish for.
9 months ago
Anonymous
He won't. Because he doesn't exist.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I think you're probably a bit hung up on the whole "he/him" thing with regards to god, but I'd have you know that calling him a he just makes god as a concept much easier to talk about.
9 months ago
Anonymous
*It*
My mistake.
his word is the design of your soul
his conscious form has been dead for an eternity
What religion is that from?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Did you have a bad run-in with religious people growing up?
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's an experience that runs in the family.
Because Christians are twats.
9 months ago
Anonymous
They really aren't in general man, just the ones you were unfortunate enough to be related to. I had the same experience.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You people think I deserve to be tortured forever because a 2000 year old textbook told you so.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The book can't teach you the reflexive disgust. It comes naturally.
Evolution told me to be repulsed.
Just like it tells you to have a nice day.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not gay, homosexual.
Although feminazis and christgays alike make it really hard to like women these days.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't care what sort of homosexual are you at all, mate. Face the wall.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Kys primitive. You're scared of a israeli fairy tale invented by people that took cave paintings too seriously.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not christian. have a nice day.
9 months ago
Anonymous
And yet you defend that dumpster fire of bullshit.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yep. It's a great read, makes homosexuals and israelites seethe and has best fashion.
What's your problem with it?
9 months ago
Anonymous
keep fighting those homosexuals and israelites online bro you will prove how manly you are soon
9 months ago
Anonymous
Imagine how many times this anon's mom's boyfriend said stuff like this to him.
9 months ago
Anonymous
dead hopes and dreams
9 months ago
Anonymous
You are literally worshipping a israelite who told you to be poor and give the ~~*powers that be*~~ all your money when they come to take it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You might be thinking of someone else.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>give to ceaser what belongs to ceaser
9 months ago
Anonymous
Anon....you are too pessimistic
9 months ago
Anonymous
The truth is pessimistic.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It really isn't. You are pessimistic, cynical and a bit misanthropic by the sounds of it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
anon if we are all in this mood, we lose. they hate that we exist so keep on living. israelitefall
9 months ago
Anonymous
Pessimism doesn't mean surrender. Only by understanding the horrible truth can you begin to fight the real war and stop dancing for your puppet masters in a conflict manufactured to profit them.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Are you actually trying to help that guy or are you just talking down to him?
9 months ago
Anonymous
dont mind me, im fine
9 months ago
Anonymous
Right?
I'm literally just saying whatever comes to mind. I don't have an agenda.
[...]
because they're thieves.
You might wanna let those posts cook a little longer or just stop posting altogether until you're a bit older.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You people are so delusional.
9 months ago
Anonymous
What kind of people am I, anon?
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know. Do you think hiding behind a religion you don't believe in will save you from degeneracy?
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't, no, because I don't do that. What a strange question. Can you answer my previous question with a statement instead of another question?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Funny, with all the people running around trying to paint it as some harmless white lie that cures homosexualry and dethrones the israelite it doesn't sound that unreasonable a question.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You are actively choosing to let that guy one post above you speak for an entire religion that he obviously doesn't actually practice.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I know full well what christian dogma entails, and it would take a page of autism to explain all my issues with it. Suffice it to say, anyone who can accept the hard conclusions an honest man would be required to accept to be a "true believer" I have no respect for.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Respectfully, I think you completely misunderstand what Christianity actually asks of the faithful.
Disrespectfully, you sound like a complete butthole who thinks they're a lot smarter than they actually are.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I have a lot I could say about actual christianity, but that has no meaning here when the biggest defender doesn't even believe it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Sounds like a cop-out. I'd be interested to hear why it's the most evil religion ever.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Different anon but Christianity isn't the most evil religion, at least not anymore, really, however there are a lot of faithful who use the religion as a shield the same way LGBT people use their ideals to deflect blame. On top of that there is a lot of "practice what you preach" violations committed all too often. I dislike organized religion in general and I wouldn't say Christianity is the worst but it has a bad rap and a lot of it is deserved.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't disagree with you at all, and those are the main reasons why I'm not a Christian myself. I still take a lot of umbrage with this notion that you can immediately write someone off for being a Christian.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Well its just how some people are with any section of people. "All blacks are evil," "All israelites are evil," etc etc. Some people are just like that. Bad experiences paint everyone the same to them.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I know, and I was really hoping to get this across to that anon but pretty much shot myself in the foot by calling them an butthole.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not the worst, just the most loud and annoying of ones that are generally bad. For one it promotes injustice. Romans 9:19 is a good summary of god's own hypocrisy, but there's a lot more in scripture philosophy I could complain about. There's also the real world harm one does by indoctrinating children with the idea of eternal damnation or fleecing the gullible out of their money with the false promise that god will return it several fold.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Take the notion of forgiveness that Christians extol. We're all sinners so we all need forgiveness. Sounds harmless at first right? But the foundation of that claim strips away at moral agency and actual fact based justice. It puts mother Theresa and jean of arc on the same level as John Wayne Gacy when judged by individual merit and not God's grace and the blood of christ.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I find that Isaiah 45:7 also sheds a light on god's "hypocrisy." God is a being that exists in a state of nonduality and legitimately can not be a hypocrite. The Bible was written by human beings earnestly attempting to understand god AND by people who insisted that they already knew the true nature of god and used it to enslave people. It's a confusing book that is unfortunately misused by a lot of people.
Take the notion of forgiveness that Christians extol. We're all sinners so we all need forgiveness. Sounds harmless at first right? But the foundation of that claim strips away at moral agency and actual fact based justice. It puts mother Theresa and jean of arc on the same level as John Wayne Gacy when judged by individual merit and not God's grace and the blood of christ.
I think you misunderstand the concept of grace or worse, the people preaching to you did. It isn't about forgiving people for unforgivable behavior. It's about forgiving yourself for things you hate yourself for doing and earnestly trying to rectify what you've done wrong.
9 months ago
Anonymous
right indeed. thx for the concern fren
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm literally just saying whatever comes to mind. I don't have an agenda.
why not just ignore the "authority and validity" of the ones who control things?
because they're thieves.
9 months ago
Anonymous
arent they always?
9 months ago
Anonymous
why not just ignore the "authority and validity" of the ones who control things?
9 months ago
Anonymous
You discomfort makes me feel validated, thank you. I'll keep doing just that.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's a pile of authoritarian israeli dogshit with a philosophy more full of holes than swiss cheese.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Authoritarism is based though.
Pick the best parts and discard what you dislike, you big baby. You're mature enough to make your own choices.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No it isn't. It's for posers. Look outside. Do you see how big the world is? You live in a magic little internet bubble because you stand on the shoulders of giants and your ego gets a little to inflated because it's insulated. You will die after a century at best and be forgotten and the world will move on without you. You have no answers, you're relying on a storybook with literal magic to guide you. You're just as much of a blind man groping through the dark as anyone. None of us are in control of shit and to cling to authoritarianism is the height of self rightous hypocricy.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Wow, that's lot of projections, you little demoralized cuck.
Yes it is.
I have all the answers I need and I see them validated by the volume of your screeching every day. I didn't even read the book lmao. You sure are obsessed with the Bible, are you a israelite or a homosexual?
(You) are in control of nothing, but that's why you hate authoritarism.
I don't need a host of worthless morons when I can have(or be) a king and make my own rules. World remembers great people and their influence lives on. Who remembers snivelling democrats? Exactly.
9 months ago
Anonymous
anon what do you think of Neapolitan ice cream?
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't think about it. Completely apathetic.
Calling the israeli books israeli isnt demoralizing unless you cling to them like a israelite. Kiss my ass, king moron.
Jews hate the Bible though, just like you are for some reason.
9 months ago
Anonymous
If israelites really had an issue with the bible, it would be off the shelves and outlawed within a week. It's controlled opposition that is of no real threat to them.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Lmao. Right, because that worked so well with alcohol or even israelites themselves, mwhahaha.
you need to try it. its actually quite tasty to be honest. Have i won you over?
It's okay if you enjoy it, I may try it if I come across it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
oh also add sprinkles if you arent against them. they add a nice touch of texture and flavor
9 months ago
Anonymous
Have you not been paying attention to how easily they distorted the narrative with just everyday news? People don't even know what their gender is anymore. Or let me put it this way, how is being a christian a threat to big money? When occupy wall street took place, they had it shut down and used race bait to keep the eyes off of them moving forwards. They own literally all the big media companies, so if they wanted Christianity gone, all they'd need to do is turn their army of useful idiot drones against it and it would be out.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Because they already did that you disingenious cuck.
Modern Christianity has been completely subverted, the Pope is their dog and homosexuals and women are allowed in church.
There's also a matter of personal grudge. Kikies hate all the good things and that included white christians.
People that are contrarian to the israelite laws will always remain a threat, more so if they have any degree of integrity and organisation, that's christians, even if they're shallow believers.
Christianity is always more preferable than any other cult, including atheism, because it's the vanilla good with no effective downside.
Oh, I'm already being warned, so I'll probably go into ban in ans moments.
Frick israelites.
Frick homosexuals.
Frick Black folk.
Frick jannies.
See ya next time, cuck.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The downside is that you have to lie to yourself.
9 months ago
Anonymous
About what?
9 months ago
Anonymous
im not sure. anon might be crazy
9 months ago
Anonymous
God's justice, for starters. I've already read the book myself.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't care about God or his justice.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Fair enough, but I was talking about the guy who vehemently believes that Christianity is the anti-jew, not you. This falls within the scope of the dogma king moron wants to defend.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I am that guy. If israelites hate christians, then I will support christians, especially since they're the least problematic of religions.
If homosexuals and israelites hate it, it should be done so far as they cannot be physically exterminated. You are the king moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
So you support a religion you know nothing about and care nothing about just because the people you don't like hate it? Do you seriously not see how stupid that is?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Mate, EVERYONE knows about Christianity, it's Vanilla the religion, especially it's most vulgaris incarnation.
You almost can't go wrong with it whatsoever. Any problems with them are non-issues.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Knowing about and actually knowing are two different things.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not if you're not a brainlet like you.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Christianity is the anti-jew
Technically it's anti-false israelite (such as the Pharisees), not anti-jew.
9 months ago
Anonymous
you need to try it. its actually quite tasty to be honest. Have i won you over?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Calling the israeli books israeli isnt demoralizing unless you cling to them like a israelite. Kiss my ass, king moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm gonna have to agree with that other guy that the Bible is a great read even if you aren't a Christian. Scripture in general is very interesting, honestly. The israeli version of the Bible is a lot different from the Christian one, naturally. I found both worth reading.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Big fan of hymns (the music type not the book) and I'm not a christian. It honestly does sound lovely and hallelujah really does make me happier when I say it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, when you set aside all the baggage that comes from your experiences with phony Christians it turns out there actually is a lot of beauty and truth to be found in that religion's writings and music. Who woulda thunk it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You know what? Never mind.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not a Christian myself and can't say that homosexuality is really what the majority of genuine Christians spend their free time thinking about. American Protestantism is hardly very Christian.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Deism is the closest that I know of
9 months ago
Anonymous
It reminds me a little bit of Azathoth.
9 months ago
Anonymous
his word is the design of your soul
his conscious form has been dead for an eternity
Evil vs Good in RPGs should be Short term vs Long term. Doing the good thing should eventually have a payoff, but otherwise you should be able to get an inmediate. weaker, worse reward if you're a c**t.
I disagree, because then the player is still motivated by reward. A true morality test would be to consistently give a choice between what is profitable and what is right. Having good always be the best option from a metagame standpoint cheapens that.
this is the thing i hate the most about evil choices in most rpgs. it is always the inferior choice even though it is often the selfish and greedy option and should benefit you more than doing the "good" thing
evil doesn't always need to be better but it is annoying when it is the worse choice 99% of the time
the other things is that you cant be ruthless good and punished the evil
if you want to play 'good' you are forced to play as soft heart homosexual who forgive and show mercy to these who deserve rope
Ridiculous. This is the mode of writing devs have been following for decades, and it's demonstrably terrible and not at all aligning with how evil acts usually shake out.
"Evil" is usually done in the name of long-term gain, while emotional people scream about it because they can only see what's in front of their nose.
well that depends on how the devs writes and designs those choices. Bioware and a lot of aRPG people will signpost things way too hard so the "evil choice", something like renegade shepard in ME, becomes a conscious effort on my part to be an butthole for fun and I'm not feeling guilty because I was actively seeking to frick with the NPCs and them getting fricked is funny and expected. I do feel bad sometimes in some games because I'll make a choice that seemed like a good option at the time but ends up being terrible for the characters involved.
Also it's outside the RPG-discourse boundaries but something that stuck with me is how bad I felt for killing the big daddies in bioshock back in the day because when you observe them and the sisters you can clearly see they care for each other and from their point of view you're a crack fiend trying to get a fix by cracking a little girl's skull open.
>kill larlach >travel to the next zone >mizora spawns >UMM SWEATY, KARLACH IS STILL BREATHING??? >turns Will into a devil for no reason >talk to Will >he feels bad about killing Karlach
What did she mean by this? Is it a bug?
You can't be evil in this game, only moronic evil that guts puppyes ocasionally for fun.
Or you can be a cuck onder stronk women's heel.
And that's that.
The choices are extremely limited. Writing team should be hanged.
Fracture is better in cheesing Larian game RPGs: >Eyo imma beat this game by teleporting this troll accross the map to beat up this bullshit slug boss then create HOLY SMOKE
not really but i usually save evil choices for good rewards like getting an extra skill point by sacrificing the orphans to the blood mage in dao. wynn was mad at me for it tho
Kind of but it isn’t what forces me to be a good guy in video-games. What makes me do that is the fact that being evil usually has very small and insignificant benefits that locks you out of other content that is more worthwhile. This isn’t just a problem with BG3 but RPGs in general. Like there is no reason outside of role playing as captain evil of death island why you should side with the powder gangers at good springs in fallout new Vegas. Like wow, I just killed off an entire village of potentially useful services for the early game just so I can do hits for the powder gangers who I’m most likely going to kill off anyway!
I agree. Fable 1 did it right imo, simply because it never took itself too seriously. The characters all were pretty annoying so killing them never felt guilty (plus their deaths were goofy and cartoonish most of the time). Killing them gave you unique items and stealing also had basically no negative consequences while making the game easier.
The closest I ever got to feeling something for a character was the last fight in Mother 3. Overall I'm just not motivated by character stories or drama. I like team building and deploying strategy.
BG3's early acts have a problem with the evil option being 'stupid evil' i.e. an act that benefits you in no way what whatsoever and is effectively the detached maliciousness of someone who knows they're playing a game. >Killing Karlach
Gets you nothing, loses you 8 feet of dumb loyal muscle. >Siding with the goblins
Killing the druids and the tieflings doesn't help you (it hinders you), no one at the camp even vaguely intimates they can or will help you in any way oh and they're all members of a cult specifically out to kill you.
I'm only interested in evil shit that helps me, not moronic murder hobo edginess.
>BG3's early acts have a problem with the evil option being 'stupid evil' i.e. an act that benefits you in no way what whatsoever and is effectively the detached maliciousness of someone who knows they're playing a game.
that is perfectly fine and realistic. why shouldn't the player be able to just casually whack whoever he feels like? the way i see it, everyone should be murderable, no matter how important they are or unimportant they are. that's real role-playing. why put up arbitrary borders just because and then act like some pompous elitist c**t and be all like "noooo! you can't do that broooo! that's just being randomly and illogically ebiiil and doens't serve the plot at alll duuuuurrrrrrrr!!!".
I didn't say you should be able to do it, you can and such people are justly 'rewarded' for being moron murder hobos by Larian as all GM's should.
I'm saying there are no smart evil options. You can't wrangle the Wyll/Karlach/succ situation to your benefit. The smart evil options (early on) are just 'I helped you give me more money' which is also fine but I want power.
That's the thing though - the evil that does benefit you is subjective and there are plenty of options to do so. They just are written as obviously evil, because they aren't. It's called subjectivity and it's good that an RPG is written that way.
I feel Japanese games do this better. The Spirit of Eternity Sword allows you to rape your subordinates for your own pleasure (which gets you explicit sex scenes, and unlocks certain powers) and you're encouraged to commit massacres and so on for mana. Which is a not-insignificant resource in a wargame, too!
You get notably more powerful if you're evil. The evil campaign is shorter, but it's not exactly a bad one, you become a god-king.
yeh, i never play as a total bad guy. way too nice for that. except if some random loser is a serious dick to me, then that dude is totally toast. still don't feel guilty, though.
trash system
would have actually been interesting if you got 0 adam from saving sisters until the pay out rewards from them
as it stands you get barely less adam for saving them and then extra on top
kotor 1 i played a good boy until the end when i was too brainlet to realize you could turn bastila back to the light side
nowadays i play dark side just to get rid of carth
I found darkside in kotor easier than most games since the darkside literally turns you objectively evil. That and while some DS options are moron edginess most actually make things easier for you.
rarely, but the Astarion ascension was one of the most satisfying choice ever in a game, like you get an absolutely broken party member or some hobos(free xp btw) helping you later? LOL
When I was 9 I was playing Maniac Mansion and I wondered what would happen if I "Use" Ed's hamster on the man-eating plant so I tried it. I was inconsolable the entire weekend.
unironically yes, but devs also condition you to do good even when given the choice. even when its without consequence like fable it just ends up being fart on them for 3g more so its just not worth it most of the time and since in other games your companions have pithy dialogue when you do it I tend to avoid it. Also, its like a no hit run kinda thing where when you pick one you never stray the path and 99% your first choice awards good boy points.
I like in ME where you have a total one but they have massive weights so you can be a dick all the time with a heart of gold etc.
Yes, I take my single player games very seriously. I like to roleplay as someone who fights evil and inspires hope in other people regardless of the game.
>NOOOOO!!! YOU CAN'T BE DISUGSTED BY FICTIONAL UGLY PEDO MOLESTER, BECAUSE... BECAUSE HE FICTIONAL, THAT'S IT!!!
Frick off. If i see something as disgusting IRL, i will see it as disgusting in fiction too.
that's not even his point, stupid. you're supposed to find it disgusting. you're not supposed to think its a plot hole, or that the story would be better without them..
I am actually. In fact, I've started to see meta of such characters.
And vast majority of the time they are meant as cheap shock content, often with the author barely hidden wanking.
Yes, I'm perfectly aware that author made them killable, but that doesn't excuse writing them at all.
I'm not interested seeing dirt in muh fantasy world.
So I don't blame the fictional characters, I hold writers accountable for the crimes they written and would quite enjoy killing them IRL.
if they played by your rules and there was no shock or things you disagree with you'de complain about everything being banal and devoid of depth you disingenuous slime.
I don't feel guilty but I do feel bad because 90% of the time devs make the evil choice far less rewarding or practical than being a good guy.
Like in Bioshock where harvesting the girls is ultimately less rewarding than saving them once you factor in the gifts they send you.
Yes, which is why I basically never do evil playthroughs in games no matter how many times I've played them. Why would I want to make the world, even a virtual one, an objectively worse place by my actions?
They need real good vs evil options, like a good option where you actually try to solve the root problem of the tiefling refugee crisis and then the evil one where you start a fake charity in their name and make millions of gold pocketing the donations.
I think Bioshock 1 handled it well as by the late game you got around 3500 Adam for rescuing every little sister and around 3800 Adam for harvesting every little sister. But rescuing gave you some extra ammo and plasmids, so it was arguably a better choice.
Does the game just allow you to kill off all your party members? That seems like such an edgelord thing to do. Imagine befriending them and then betraying them one by one.
Yes, because it often means I get less rewards from of the act compared to being a goody two shoes. Doubly so if I don't clear the quest in some esoteric optimal manner.
Yeah its always >Kill the bandits who you then get to loot and doing this quest also lowers vendor prices throughout the game
or >Side with the bandits and get way worse loot/exp off the townsfolk and no vendor reduction oh and you're not allowed to double cross them afterwards
Give me a game where I can side with the bandits but then betray them and save the day in the middle of their raid to make myself look like an even bigger hero.
That's what a game with actual player choice would look like, but writing 28 different outcomes with far-reaching consequences for every little sidequest just isn't going to be possible with the state of current game devs. Most barely bother putting in 2.
I remember hearing about how dead space has an ai director in charge of controlling enemy popups and musical stings to create a more uniquely tailored and intense experience. It'll be interesting to see the day when a highly sophisticated version of that is tracking player choices and altering content on the fly.
For that to happen we'll need another 15-20 years of consumer electronics progress, the average pc is not strong enough to run all the processes video games do on top of a fit neural network that sorts out choices, definitely possible at a theoretical level though.
What about bawd morality? Wake me when I have the option to roll a femgob bard who fricks and sucks her way across the countryside and ends up saving the world through sheer happenstance.
Yea, unless I have good reason for it or it'd be funny/cool to see I don't like being evil. Thievery and small time crime sure, but the heinous shit that some CRPGs can let you do/think what a villain path would do is too much. This also correlates into real life where I'm super intuitive of other people to an autistic degree.
I only make right choices, because I play as the person I want to be / should be according to God.
So if I come across a non-human in a game, then it's my duty to send that demon back to hell.
>pick up an idol >instead of the hippies getting mad at me they start a race war >karlach is instantly hostile to me
i love when doing anything that isnt pure goody two shoes just locks out half the content
The idol isn't even that good. I think it gives you a slight bonus to nature and animal skill checks. That's your reward for being evil. You don't even get the cool nature magic that the shitty demon child who stole it too got.
The most basic thing they could do is have the quest rewards and vendor loot on corpses so that killing them doesn't give you more than being a good two shoes, but it at least gives it to you faster.
As it is, lots of quest rewards and vendor loot is nowhere to be found after killing the person who would give/sell it to you, which makes zero sense.
Rarely. The bigger problem is that making the good choices leads to better rewards or more content in some manner so I wind up having to pick the good guy choice to get optimal equipment/party/xp. I still do bad guy playthroughs anyway, it's just lame that the bad guy choices have little thought put into them. Most of the time its blunt evil with little logic to it, like just cutting some guys head off or kicking a baby.
This. Being good in RPGs is too easy because there is almost never a cost to being good. But that's usually not how life works. Devs should actually make it hard to make the good choice sometimes by actually locking you out of powerful loot.
My sense of good and evil does not usually align with the writers. For instance, I personally think the people that attack Abel the tyrant ending had it coming. Also Keisuke did literally nothing wrong.
True. It's not an issue if you sometimes do something evil for fun or testing, but if you consistently and constantly play as evil or do evil things in games or any roleplay or simulation, you absolutely have an issue. Some people can live with it, but usually there are mental issues.
Anon already knows in his heart of hearts that it isn't real and nobody is actually hurt. I don't think saying he could do it in real life based on that alone is fair. Aren't you just fear mongering?
If you think specific thoughts in specific environments are somehow void of being related to larger life, I don't know what to tell you. Everything is connected and everything affects all.
That's a load of hot bullshit right there. Actions taken in a world the actor understands to be fictional cannot be an equivalent representation of what they would do in a world they know is real, by virtue the divergent types of beliefs he regards those worlds with. Your philosophy needs work.
9 months ago
Anonymous
In my OG comment I never said they would do it, only if they are in denial about it. Which, funnily enough, you're doing right now.
Have a great night, anon 🙂
9 months ago
Anonymous
The implication is that they would do it, else their denial would be the truth and no denial at all.
Run away, you've lost.
The more comfortable those kinds of people get around you, the more the mask slips, and it becomes very apparent that most things are games to them.
People doing evil things in games are psychopaths in real world and people who deny it are psychopaths who are capable of act on it.
It's that simple.
So you guys play zero games with murder, fighting, etc on the grounds that people who do are psychopaths irl? Are you guys soccer moms or something? Smells like the "video games cause violence" crowd.
No, I love all kinds of violent video games. I just don't revel in torturing fictional characters. We aren't talking about violence, we're talking about cruelty.
I also want to be crystal clear that I don't think these sorts of outlets for cruel impulses should be done away with. I'm glad they exist. And I don't think that the people who do this kind of stuff are bad people per se, just that they likely have psychopathic tendencies.
>prejudges and large amounts of people, classifies them as the worst type of being he can possible think of >I am a good person!
You self-righteous clowns are a very sad joke.
No. You're willfully misunderstanding this. I figured it was pretty clear given the context of this thread that anon was talking about people who choose to be evil when provided the option to not be evil.
Well if you want to take it to its logical conclusion, I did actually outright refuse to play those games when they were popular because they're American military propaganda. I didn't even play any WW2 shooters because I found it in very poor taste that people were making video games out of a war my great grandfather fought in. So I guess in that regard I'm a soccer mom or whatever.
But getting away from that, I think you know exactly what that anon meant when they said that. People who go out of their way to be cruel in video games are obviously using it as an outlet.
I don't ever even play evil characters, but this projection is really sad. Some people want to see the outcomes, some people find dark humor in it, some people know it's a video game and can disassociate it from reality.
The fact is, your average shooter will have you pile up hundreds / thousands of corpses. It far outweighs any cruel moral choice you could make in these games, so even trying to make this point is honestly so laughable to me. In this attempt at psychoanalyzing people over their choices in a video game, you've somehow devalued the value of human lives that are supposedly surrogates for their cruelty.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You are awfully defensive about this for some reason. Even wrote me a little huffy line of greentext about it.
I don't think people who don't play games like I do are bad people. At no point did I say that. I also think it's laughable that you think I'm devaluing human lives by merely having an opinion and choosing to not play certain video games. You're hysterical.
Not true, people who cant distinguish between reality and media are sub 100iq and that is a fact. It is not real and it is interesting to see what would happen.
9 months ago
Anonymous
What makes you think I can't separate reality from fiction? I just don't want to go out of my way to watch torture porn.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Don't know if I agree with that other guy, but I would argue that people who are incapable of being emotionally involved with fiction "cuz it's not real lol" are genuinely unintelligent.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm that other guy and I agree with you.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Fiction can be about bad things or even be openly morbidly evil without representing the views or desires of the reader. That is also unintelligent thinking. It's like how a lot of people thought Undertale calling them a bad person for comitting genocide was a personal insult to them as a person and not just a part of the story. Silly.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I think it's one thing when fiction is about those things and another thing entirely when fiction allows you to fully inhabit an evil role. I realize that might be a bit pedantic of me, but I just have to say that I've come to this conclusion after having met people who love to be evil in games. I'm of course silly for spending this much time on this discussion on Ganker, but I'm no dummy.
9 months ago
Anonymous
And Grand Theft Auto is teaching our children to murder prostitutes for bonus points. Come on now. A lot of the people doing evil playthroughs of RPGs are merely testing the limits of what the game will account for. Or they're just choosing to perversely play the role of villain. A lot of them have already done or will go on to do a "morally sound" playthrough as well.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not really interested in continuing this conversation if you're going to paint me in the same vein as Jack Thompson when I have at no point said that people who do evil things in games will go on to do evil things in life. All I've said was that they're using it as an outlet.
You always have option to not be evil. Just quit the game. But you don't want to. Like all "good" people you just need an excuse. >I didn't have a choice >It's okay to do bad things to bad people
sometimes a little bit
Im playing rouge and I showed thieving kids couple tricks and even gave them some money to finance their little thieves guild once they make it to the city
I felt a little sad when I found them all slaugtered along with the bard who tried to defend them but oh well, I got to infiltrate the cult in return.
SMT IV, they made Walter the best of the party along with the best ideal. Then monkey-b***h impales herself in front of you right before the final dungeon, and then you're stuck taking this guilty walk through the place and kill the boss, only to see the upper terrania in pandemonium because "LOL the strong fight off the weak", and you don't realize in the moment they meant "demons vs humans without devil summoning programs". It's a good ending because I still remember it, but it's because it made me feel really bad for an ending that was awful for everyone but me and those few around me
What's even wrong with this. Karlach is telling the Tiefling kid she likes their hustle. Scamming, while morally dubious, is one of the few ways for less fortunate people to make their way. And before you go "but stealing from their people just reinforces the stereotype of them being thieves!" Well, a rich person can steal just as much as a poor person but they get commended for it. Systems broke and people on top don't want to fix it.
You either get, or you get got. Especially in Faerun
>accidentally blow up the guidance truck at the end of mercenaries >just fricking sent millions to die in nuclear hellfire
little kid heart sank so much i save scummed
Oh she got what she fricking deserved. Now I'm going to recruit Minty I guess even though this was supposed to be a goody playthrough. On that note, Vengeance paladin is a very difficult oath to break.
>Vengeance paladin is a very difficult oath to break
It really isn't. Either kill the tieflings who captured the frog b***h, or let the Goblin out of her cell.
>Neither of those will break the Vengeance oath
Except they fricking do, because I've done both and reloaded because I didn't like it thematically
Ended up just rolling with it after letting Ethel go because I wanted my stat boost
It's not my character's fault that Wyll raped the conversation and there aren't good dialogue options after. Following his bullshit the only options I could take were something like "They were lying about you", which I had no reason to believe, and "they put a bounty on your head", which is true and isn't necessarily hostile. SHE attacked ME after that, which only leaves one conclusion about her character barring metagaming.
My paladin has at least 2 IQ, thank you very much. Writing fricked him.
Yes if its well written, in this game I legit could not care for anything, I was going trough the motions as nothing really interested me about the scenarios and people presented to me in ths story.
>Do you ever feel legitimately guilty for making evil choices in video games?
It's a fricking demon m8, look at it. Horns, red skin, sharp teeth. Kill it and be on your way.
No, because modern devs are self-righteous imbeciles unable to get me invested in the setting. The good vs evil debate makes sense when being evil is more profitable, and you have to forego material compensation to do the right thing. Motivations for this can be either purely out of duty or maybe empathy, assuming the entire cast of chars aren't just unlikable dickwads and writer's pets.
Since dickwad NPCs sadly seems the common thing now, I tend to just do the evil thing for financial gain, which in the current day translates to: be a duplicitous psychopath that does the thing the imbecilic devs want in each case (be that "good" or "evil"), max out the reward, and then afterwards molotov the NPCs once the cutscene is over.
I still tend to be moral if the game deserves it, for example in Planescape Torment.
I played pic related as a bad guy on my first playthrough. I didn't like any of the characters, and never felt bad for killing everybody who wanted to waste my time.
I felt terrible for wasting my time on that shit game, even after going back to every single dangerhair lesbian quest giver and blowing their cap off. That one minute of bliss didn't compensate so many hours of bullshit. Thank god I pirated it at least.
yes, it's called having empathy or possibly even too much empathy. and it's not surprising that people do, because they specifically write and voice lines etc with the intent to make you feel bad.
not even evil choices, just kicking someone out of your party is designed to make you feel bad
>There isn't a single game that has a satisfying evil route
Someone has never played KoTOR and forced their wookie slave to kill their 14 year old friend.
So your Paladin lacks critical thinking and lets others sway opinion without seeing all the facts and also takes one strangers word over another arbitrarily. Both, in character your Paladin is going to feel like a fricking idiot later.
That wasn't an evil choice for my paladin.
Guys said there was a demon murdering people and I acted accordingly.
It's not my character's fault that Wyll raped the conversation and there aren't good dialogue options after. Following his bullshit the only options I could take were something like "They were lying about you", which I had no reason to believe, and "they put a bounty on your head", which is true and isn't necessarily hostile. SHE attacked ME after that, which only leaves one conclusion about her character barring metagaming.
My paladin has at least 2 IQ, thank you very much. Writing fricked him.
What bothers me about Karlach is that she just feels like a mary sue character. She has 8 int, but she doesn't talk like it at all. The shit about having an infernal engine in her chest just seems so over the top, I can't get why they did it
But she's also a pleasant character, since you get matched with 3 evil characters right from the start she's honestly kind of welcome
8 int doesnt mean you're a Neanderthal, it means you lack critical thinking and may not process information as fast or well as others. Karlach is exactly like that. 10 int is the average human int so 8 is just under and you have people with sub 100iq talking fine. If you look into things in the Nine Hells and the infernal machinery, the engine thing is not wild at all when you have monster trucks powered off souls with beating hearts and shit.
Yeah i know that the engine is pre-existing, but this insanely strong tiefling that has one stuck in her body? And she's literally on fire most of the time as a result, but can withstand And everyone thinks she's super cool and she's a good person actually and Wyll was completely wrong to want to kill her.
Every NPC likes her and has good things to say. Even Lez, our resident b***h, is jizzing over her. It's so strange.
If she was in a DMC game or something I'd think she was pretty cool, but in context of this setting she feels like one writer's favorite OC.
And the way she speaks, giving detailed instructions on how to kill demons, and the intricacies of devils? It just doesn't feel right. I know that there were rewrites on parts of the story, so I'd believe it if her stat block change was arbitrary.
during my lich run in Pathfinder wotr i felt bad whenever i had to kill my favorite companions. letting Lann die by his own tribesmen, mindbreaking ember and corrupting Arue back into a average Succubus and then killing her was hard.
>devs went through the effort of meticulously naming and characterising every single humanoid NPC in the game >consequencly feel like shit when any of them die
It's like being in WW2 but you're forced to see a picture of Fritz's parents before shooting him.
>Also kinda great how there's no outrage whatsoever about killing goblin children, it's part of the objectively good path.
This was a bitter pill for me to swallow! I play a devotion paladin and put those kids to sleep instead of killing them. I was kinda flabbergasted when Halsin then immediately mauled them to death.
I tend to self insert in these games and make decisions as I would make them and I tend to make decisions that don't make me feel guilty, of course I make mistakes in life, but in a game it's really easy to not frick up an obvious decision.
I do subsequent playthroughs and in those I'll do an evil playthrough but I'm not self-inserting in those play throughs so no, I feel nothing.
Why would I need to imply observable reality? It's not like we're talking about welding oil rigs together, moron. Women have been involved in creative industries for hundreds of years.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Its not, the most they did was accounting
You agitation about it is hilarious, fit right in for bg3 characters
9 months ago
Anonymous
>literal woman in the middle row
9 months ago
Anonymous
Being a zoomer is no excuse for being moronic.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You remind me of the people justifying that netflix slop
9 months ago
Anonymous
You remind me of someone who needs to jump off a bridge
9 months ago
Anonymous
But there's a girl in that photo? What exactly are you trying to prove? Sure, they were not there as often as today because they were not mandated to be there by shareholders, but they were there, those that actually wanted to work in the gamedev and create shit. Just like Amy Hening did, which is why game journos hated her so much and scum like cuckmann ultimately ousted her from the company.
yeah, I have far too much empathy. It effects even my fictional life. The hardest part of act 3 is knocking out all the red shirts and not accidentally killing them.
Try to play it off as character building and growth >Play Dark Urge >Try to balance good and evil, slightly leaning towards the latter >Decide to kill grove as the first major act of evil >Think nothing of it >Go back for loot and other stuff I missed >See the hidden cave with all the dead kids in there, one of them I saved and wrote about how much of a hero my character was >Kill every goblin I see on sight >My character's face when https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfevBIsVG1o
Imagine being such a monkeybrain you can't tell the difference between reality and pixels and start feeling things for Baldur's Gate 3 characters of all possible entities.
Used to. I used to go for Paragon/Good Karma type of playthrough, but now I know better that they're not real and it's surprisingly fun to play as the "bad" guy.
You are a beta cuck if you DON'T make the evil choices. Alpha male establishes dominance and is not afraid of testosterone. Alpha male IS testosterone.
except in this game the evil choice is to become the Absolute's b***h. Or do I get to take over the cult or something? I'm ready to finish Act 3 right now.
That would turn in to a gay fanfic very quick, go in to the ruins that are near the starting zone, get the lich from the cript, he will make it possible to hire mercenaries who are braindead but at least wont assault you all the time
Gotrek is probably dwarf barbarian, not sure if the are mohawks avaliable tho
I just watched the beheading scene and holy frick that was terrible for a game in almost 2024. The knife animation just floats before it even cuts anything. Is the whole game this wonky?
lickable lips, would keep as an onahole until it starts to smell
She smelled even alive
you are an evil little man
post feet
This may sound like a joke, but this is their end goal all along. Normalizing bestiality, pedophilia, necrophilia and every other evil.
And we can cross bestiality off that list now, seeing the reaction to the bear sex scene. Next is pedophilia (but only for brown people and white kids)
Black folk tongue my anus
>next is pedophilia
If what you say is true, then everyone of you wienersuckers are fricked. I don't want to hear moralhomosexualry from a board full of people circlejerking it to 3dcg little girls.
Difference is, they're jerking to 3d renders and drawings while Abdul will be raping and murdering real kids. If you're trying to equate the two, you might as well call anyone that has ever played a videogame a murderer. You are fricking moronic.
>comedy bear sex = subversive israeli plot
>simulated child porn = harmless escapism
Which is it, homosexual?
>strawman
I never said anything about bearsex, it's stupid but ultimately harmless.
>but only for brown people
Those damn SJWs stopping all the nice white pedophiles.
Anything to ensure the total extinction of white straight men
i can tell reality from fiction so no
I was just playing Fallout 76 and a drunkard was asking me for liquor, so I gave him liquor till he drank himself to death and then I looted the caps off his body. I thought it was funny.
Also, this
maybe for a brief second depending on the action and the outcome i actually wanted, but ultimately
This is autism. A well-written character will make you think of them as someone real and you'll care what happens, even though you know it's fantasy.
Problem is nobody actually writes good characters anymore. Just pleasing or grating.
>This is autism
Only to extent. I was diagnosed 29 years ago, and I can certainly tell reality from fiction (was actually pretty good with that at a young age). Being autism though, I still can't help but treat in-game characters as if they're real in a way.
So to answer OP, if nothing else I do occasionally feel a bit uncomfortable making evil actions. Even with a bit of a silly game like fable 2, worst I usually do is fart in a crowd then flip the bird. Games like gta are a whole other thing though, give no fricks there.
Do you think not being able to get invested in fiction somehow makes you superior? What a midwit take lmao.
Not that anon but when I think of shit i feel guilt over its things I can remember even back to childhood, comparing that to some event in a video is moronic. You are the autist.
meant for
Bayzed, i feel bad if i play multiplayer games and i make someone feel bad.
"Brainlet who thinks he's smart" take
You can feel things from a book you're really into, this doesnt mean the reader cant tell if its fake, same for movies.
>I dont feel things with music because I can tell its just notes in an order
Fricking Christ, what a moronic take.
No, but I hate when the game desperately tries to make me feel guilty, or when the developer tries to impose their subjective sense of morality.
Have you considered the possibility you might be a psychopath, anon?
Overly emotional people are why psychopaths thrive.
Have you considered the possibility that video games aren't real?
NTA but you've never felt a disconnect between your own morality and what is portrayed as the "good" choice in a game?
In BG3, there is a guy who allows refugees to temporarily stay in his house, then wants to get rid of them.
The "good" choice is to side with the refugees whose logic is: "You have a big house and we have no house, so you should let us stay here."
The "bad" choice is to side with the house owner, whose logic is: "This is my house. Respect my decision to ask you to leave."
If you side with the refugees, they reward you with finding out the guy wanted them to leave because he was hiding something in his basement.
If you side with the home owner, you're forced to kill some guards and then you're forced to witness the refugees whine and be upset before they run away.
While it's understandable to feel bad for the refugees, the guy just wanted his house. Why lay it on the player so heavy?
The portrayal of the genophage cure situation in ME3 really rustled my jimmies. NTA also
occasionally you'll get an "evil" option that isn't evil at all. I remember a choice in me2 where shooting the murderer who pulled a gun on you is the """evil""" option
Maybe you just need to think more thoroughly to find the which answer really is good. Maybe you lack empathy. Maybe you would understand if you'd ever experienced being a refugee.
Lots of maybes and lots of assumptions there, anon.
>Maybe you would understand if you'd ever experienced being a refugee.
something tells me swen wasn't helping at the soup kitchen during the migrant crisis either.
A person can literally be dying on your doorstep and this does not give them the right to go into your house without your permission
GIVE ME YOUR WEALTH BECAUSE I'M POOR AND USELESS
homie I've done couch surfing before, both as an adult and as a child. The person being lent a room and board for little to no fee/rent should be sucking the toes of whoever is gracious and kind enough to do that. Especially for strangers they've never met and of a different race.
During WW2 my grandma's family was hiding a israelite, this guy brought over all his food reserves, but he wouldn't share it, the family had to sell their israeliteelry to him to get some food, lmao, a stereotype even during such harsh times.
Your family is at fault for every character in bg3 being a homosexual
No, in fact you just have a fricked up weird sense of morality that ends up transgressing against what is actually moral and you should be prohibited from promoting it lol
Funny how you twatter activists like to talk but I never see you hosing 3 families of Black folk or sandBlack folk in your walled community condo paid by your trust fund, huh.
So when will you be taking in some refugees? They don't need much space, you can probably house 2 along with you even in a tiny apartment, you shouldn't have any problems with that right? You going to sign up for that now? Right now?
>If you side with the refugees, they reward you with finding out the guy wanted them to leave because he was hiding something in his basement.
It's not that simlpe. You can find out about the basement before having to make either choice about refugees, and you can easily rp that as the motivation for why you're getting involved.
I both killed his gang when they tried to kick out the refugees. I then also kicked out the refugees.
Imagine being so fragile that a choice like that made you seethe. Choices are:
>let them stay
>why can't you work something out with them?
>yeah they should get out
>I don't want to get involved
You can find out about his basement with detect thoughts, a passive insight check, or by checking out material in his house. If you side with the refugees, you can also have to fight the guy's mercs, which is the other side of the guards being called.
It's such an even-handed interaction, with the only people who approves or disapproves either way are they big moralgays Karlach and Wyll, that I have no idea why you'd feel like the game was lecturing about your morality.
The morality in western rpgs is literally mommies little white knight who is predestined to become a cuck irl
rpg devs are emasculated losers
>You MUST agree with MY morality or you're a PSYCHOPATH
Repeat to yourself "it's just a game, I should really just relax."
A psychopath wouldn't care about the attempted guilt trip. If anything, it'd be more satisfying.
to be honest, id trust a high-functioning psychopath more than an overly emotional wreck
at least the first can stay rational
the problem is that you have all these "psychopaths" that appear on tv because they killed somekne or whatever, and those are the extremely insane ones
most likely, a psychopath would just reason how to not get into trouble and live a calm life, of course murder would get cops to arrest you and would frick your life over, empathy is optional to come to this conclusion
This.
I massacred all of the Tiefling "refugees" after their kids stole from me. No regrets.
Remember when DA:I included a troony character for no other reason than to have a character ask you whether you approve?
No because there has never been another game after dao
If DAII never existed where did my $60 go?
no I didn't play it because that game oozed homosexualry
Can you frick that stump?
when you bully that one moron in mass effect i felt bad
who? I just started playing the series and I'm at the snow area where you get some corrupt c**t arrested in a laughable way
his name is like colin or something i think
i barely remember, i played that shit over a decade ago
conrad verner. he deserves it tho since he's actually moronic. plus if you set him right in 1 and 2 and help some other chick at the bar in 1 he helps out on the crucible.
Yes. It's why it's so hard for me to do "evil" playthroughs.
>killing a demon
>evil
pick one
Not a demon.
non-human = demon
Behold, a demon!
Evil takes many forms
Yes. I dont like seeing people upset or sad and symphatize greatly with people.
Besides, playing as a goodie two-shoes in these games is my ultimate power fantasy: To have enough energy to help every who needs it.
My favorite power fantasy is to do good deeds, be a goody-two-shoes until I get enough power to break the game. Then, I slowly start to betray everyone when it's convenient. Slowly go from picking only good choices to evil ones. So far, I don't know of any game that enables this behavior or acknowledges it. The closest thing is Planescape.
My MO in both real life and games is to be good when I am weak and dependent on others, only turning into an butthole when I have some power over people.
Wow, you're like 99% of people on this planet.
The true homosexual's way
Try being an butthole when you're weak and then become good once in a position of power
that's like every human being in history and current day dude. you are not special for acting like a Chaotic Evil butthole
The Guild 2. Very German game and German way of thinking.
t. Germ
For an example you can buy out all hospitals when the plague hits and let everyone else die. You can become the political elite. Sell your enemies daughters into prostitution. Torture your enemies to death. Game the court system. Schmittean game.
new vegas lets you screw over companions and factions
sometimes when i really like the characters.
like in wotr i couldn't keep playing the lich playthrough when i realized it would doom arue.
Yes, I might be autistic but I like making NPCs happy
Not really. I didn't like her face.
sometimes. like when i killed the geth in mass effect 3 because i didn't have enough points to save both sides.
Not really.
I am just conditioned to be a paragon in all of them.
The rewards are usually better.
I usually just dont bother because it's almost always the most boring choice. The only evil path I can think of that was worth playing was ME2 renegade where you're legitimately just an unhinged dude who's self aware he's the protagonist so he has no issues doing things like kicking people off a 10 mile high balcony for a minor disagreement.
Honestly being a renegade in ME isn't even evil, if you make all the bad choices you're basically just a highly effective soldier who is willing to do whatever it takes to make sure humanity dominates over the aliums.
Ruthless, but not really evil. Playing an evil character in Dragon Age Origins IIRC felt a lot more actually evil
Overlord everyone was evil even the heroes so even though you play a villain you still end up doing mostly good.
Genuine evil acts, no problem.
Things where your character just acts like an butthole or is mean to people makes me feel bad.
No, I don't feel guilty for anything I do in a singleplayer game. It's a game. Nothing in it impacts reality.
>Do a normal run, Alfria's story about her teacher is nice and somewhat touching as she dedicates a song to her
>other run, literally grab her fricking lute and smash it on the grab
>the Durge interaction
God damn some people see the sweet stuff in life and the others tear it down
I'd smash it on 'evil' playthroughs, but then how will I get my non-bards to perform with instruments? Therefore, her lute remains unsmashed but Dirge thanks her for teaching him to play by butchering her.
>No guys, you dont understand, there are good demons and bad demons
top fricken kek
Nah man it’s like Nightcrawler from X-Men. Looks evil but is best boy.
People like (you) are literally the reason they are portrayed as they are in the handbooks etc, because people don't trust them out of hand rightfully so because they are fricking gypsy thieves
She's not a demon, she's a person who looks like a demon.
Another moron who doesn't understand what a Tiefling is. Tieflings are just a human, elf, or orc with some devil / demon in their bloodline from one of their ancestors. It's entirely possible for two humans to give birth to a tiefling
>>No guys, you dont understand, there are good demons and bad demons
yes
Not really.
I don't make evil choices.
this, I'm a good person with or without people looking
god is always watching
inshallah brother
God isn't real. But you should still do the right thing anyways.
*God disapproves*
I'll care when he comes down here to tell me himself.
Be careful what you wish for.
He won't. Because he doesn't exist.
I think you're probably a bit hung up on the whole "he/him" thing with regards to god, but I'd have you know that calling him a he just makes god as a concept much easier to talk about.
*It*
My mistake.
What religion is that from?
Did you have a bad run-in with religious people growing up?
It's an experience that runs in the family.
Because Christians are twats.
They really aren't in general man, just the ones you were unfortunate enough to be related to. I had the same experience.
You people think I deserve to be tortured forever because a 2000 year old textbook told you so.
The book can't teach you the reflexive disgust. It comes naturally.
Evolution told me to be repulsed.
Just like it tells you to have a nice day.
I'm not gay, homosexual.
Although feminazis and christgays alike make it really hard to like women these days.
I don't care what sort of homosexual are you at all, mate. Face the wall.
Kys primitive. You're scared of a israeli fairy tale invented by people that took cave paintings too seriously.
I'm not christian. have a nice day.
And yet you defend that dumpster fire of bullshit.
Yep. It's a great read, makes homosexuals and israelites seethe and has best fashion.
What's your problem with it?
keep fighting those homosexuals and israelites online bro you will prove how manly you are soon
Imagine how many times this anon's mom's boyfriend said stuff like this to him.
dead hopes and dreams
You are literally worshipping a israelite who told you to be poor and give the ~~*powers that be*~~ all your money when they come to take it.
You might be thinking of someone else.
>give to ceaser what belongs to ceaser
Anon....you are too pessimistic
The truth is pessimistic.
It really isn't. You are pessimistic, cynical and a bit misanthropic by the sounds of it.
anon if we are all in this mood, we lose. they hate that we exist so keep on living. israelitefall
Pessimism doesn't mean surrender. Only by understanding the horrible truth can you begin to fight the real war and stop dancing for your puppet masters in a conflict manufactured to profit them.
Are you actually trying to help that guy or are you just talking down to him?
dont mind me, im fine
Right?
You might wanna let those posts cook a little longer or just stop posting altogether until you're a bit older.
You people are so delusional.
What kind of people am I, anon?
I don't know. Do you think hiding behind a religion you don't believe in will save you from degeneracy?
I don't, no, because I don't do that. What a strange question. Can you answer my previous question with a statement instead of another question?
Funny, with all the people running around trying to paint it as some harmless white lie that cures homosexualry and dethrones the israelite it doesn't sound that unreasonable a question.
You are actively choosing to let that guy one post above you speak for an entire religion that he obviously doesn't actually practice.
I know full well what christian dogma entails, and it would take a page of autism to explain all my issues with it. Suffice it to say, anyone who can accept the hard conclusions an honest man would be required to accept to be a "true believer" I have no respect for.
Respectfully, I think you completely misunderstand what Christianity actually asks of the faithful.
Disrespectfully, you sound like a complete butthole who thinks they're a lot smarter than they actually are.
I have a lot I could say about actual christianity, but that has no meaning here when the biggest defender doesn't even believe it.
Sounds like a cop-out. I'd be interested to hear why it's the most evil religion ever.
Different anon but Christianity isn't the most evil religion, at least not anymore, really, however there are a lot of faithful who use the religion as a shield the same way LGBT people use their ideals to deflect blame. On top of that there is a lot of "practice what you preach" violations committed all too often. I dislike organized religion in general and I wouldn't say Christianity is the worst but it has a bad rap and a lot of it is deserved.
I don't disagree with you at all, and those are the main reasons why I'm not a Christian myself. I still take a lot of umbrage with this notion that you can immediately write someone off for being a Christian.
Well its just how some people are with any section of people. "All blacks are evil," "All israelites are evil," etc etc. Some people are just like that. Bad experiences paint everyone the same to them.
I know, and I was really hoping to get this across to that anon but pretty much shot myself in the foot by calling them an butthole.
Not the worst, just the most loud and annoying of ones that are generally bad. For one it promotes injustice. Romans 9:19 is a good summary of god's own hypocrisy, but there's a lot more in scripture philosophy I could complain about. There's also the real world harm one does by indoctrinating children with the idea of eternal damnation or fleecing the gullible out of their money with the false promise that god will return it several fold.
Take the notion of forgiveness that Christians extol. We're all sinners so we all need forgiveness. Sounds harmless at first right? But the foundation of that claim strips away at moral agency and actual fact based justice. It puts mother Theresa and jean of arc on the same level as John Wayne Gacy when judged by individual merit and not God's grace and the blood of christ.
I find that Isaiah 45:7 also sheds a light on god's "hypocrisy." God is a being that exists in a state of nonduality and legitimately can not be a hypocrite. The Bible was written by human beings earnestly attempting to understand god AND by people who insisted that they already knew the true nature of god and used it to enslave people. It's a confusing book that is unfortunately misused by a lot of people.
I think you misunderstand the concept of grace or worse, the people preaching to you did. It isn't about forgiving people for unforgivable behavior. It's about forgiving yourself for things you hate yourself for doing and earnestly trying to rectify what you've done wrong.
right indeed. thx for the concern fren
I'm literally just saying whatever comes to mind. I don't have an agenda.
because they're thieves.
arent they always?
why not just ignore the "authority and validity" of the ones who control things?
You discomfort makes me feel validated, thank you. I'll keep doing just that.
It's a pile of authoritarian israeli dogshit with a philosophy more full of holes than swiss cheese.
Authoritarism is based though.
Pick the best parts and discard what you dislike, you big baby. You're mature enough to make your own choices.
No it isn't. It's for posers. Look outside. Do you see how big the world is? You live in a magic little internet bubble because you stand on the shoulders of giants and your ego gets a little to inflated because it's insulated. You will die after a century at best and be forgotten and the world will move on without you. You have no answers, you're relying on a storybook with literal magic to guide you. You're just as much of a blind man groping through the dark as anyone. None of us are in control of shit and to cling to authoritarianism is the height of self rightous hypocricy.
Wow, that's lot of projections, you little demoralized cuck.
Yes it is.
I have all the answers I need and I see them validated by the volume of your screeching every day. I didn't even read the book lmao. You sure are obsessed with the Bible, are you a israelite or a homosexual?
(You) are in control of nothing, but that's why you hate authoritarism.
I don't need a host of worthless morons when I can have(or be) a king and make my own rules. World remembers great people and their influence lives on. Who remembers snivelling democrats? Exactly.
anon what do you think of Neapolitan ice cream?
I don't think about it. Completely apathetic.
Jews hate the Bible though, just like you are for some reason.
If israelites really had an issue with the bible, it would be off the shelves and outlawed within a week. It's controlled opposition that is of no real threat to them.
Lmao. Right, because that worked so well with alcohol or even israelites themselves, mwhahaha.
It's okay if you enjoy it, I may try it if I come across it.
oh also add sprinkles if you arent against them. they add a nice touch of texture and flavor
Have you not been paying attention to how easily they distorted the narrative with just everyday news? People don't even know what their gender is anymore. Or let me put it this way, how is being a christian a threat to big money? When occupy wall street took place, they had it shut down and used race bait to keep the eyes off of them moving forwards. They own literally all the big media companies, so if they wanted Christianity gone, all they'd need to do is turn their army of useful idiot drones against it and it would be out.
Because they already did that you disingenious cuck.
Modern Christianity has been completely subverted, the Pope is their dog and homosexuals and women are allowed in church.
There's also a matter of personal grudge. Kikies hate all the good things and that included white christians.
People that are contrarian to the israelite laws will always remain a threat, more so if they have any degree of integrity and organisation, that's christians, even if they're shallow believers.
Christianity is always more preferable than any other cult, including atheism, because it's the vanilla good with no effective downside.
Oh, I'm already being warned, so I'll probably go into ban in ans moments.
Frick israelites.
Frick homosexuals.
Frick Black folk.
Frick jannies.
See ya next time, cuck.
The downside is that you have to lie to yourself.
About what?
im not sure. anon might be crazy
God's justice, for starters. I've already read the book myself.
I don't care about God or his justice.
Fair enough, but I was talking about the guy who vehemently believes that Christianity is the anti-jew, not you. This falls within the scope of the dogma king moron wants to defend.
I am that guy. If israelites hate christians, then I will support christians, especially since they're the least problematic of religions.
If homosexuals and israelites hate it, it should be done so far as they cannot be physically exterminated. You are the king moron.
So you support a religion you know nothing about and care nothing about just because the people you don't like hate it? Do you seriously not see how stupid that is?
Mate, EVERYONE knows about Christianity, it's Vanilla the religion, especially it's most vulgaris incarnation.
You almost can't go wrong with it whatsoever. Any problems with them are non-issues.
Knowing about and actually knowing are two different things.
Not if you're not a brainlet like you.
>Christianity is the anti-jew
Technically it's anti-false israelite (such as the Pharisees), not anti-jew.
you need to try it. its actually quite tasty to be honest. Have i won you over?
Calling the israeli books israeli isnt demoralizing unless you cling to them like a israelite. Kiss my ass, king moron.
I'm gonna have to agree with that other guy that the Bible is a great read even if you aren't a Christian. Scripture in general is very interesting, honestly. The israeli version of the Bible is a lot different from the Christian one, naturally. I found both worth reading.
Big fan of hymns (the music type not the book) and I'm not a christian. It honestly does sound lovely and hallelujah really does make me happier when I say it.
Yeah, when you set aside all the baggage that comes from your experiences with phony Christians it turns out there actually is a lot of beauty and truth to be found in that religion's writings and music. Who woulda thunk it.
You know what? Never mind.
I'm not a Christian myself and can't say that homosexuality is really what the majority of genuine Christians spend their free time thinking about. American Protestantism is hardly very Christian.
Deism is the closest that I know of
It reminds me a little bit of Azathoth.
his word is the design of your soul
his conscious form has been dead for an eternity
Same.
Yes, it's why I can't ever do an evil playthrough of anything
No.
no, now go frick yourself OP
I feel bad because I know the game will lock me out of something
if games were accurate being evil should just give you benefits
Skyrim kind of rewards you more for making the bad choices.
Evil vs Good in RPGs should be Short term vs Long term. Doing the good thing should eventually have a payoff, but otherwise you should be able to get an inmediate. weaker, worse reward if you're a c**t.
I disagree, because then the player is still motivated by reward. A true morality test would be to consistently give a choice between what is profitable and what is right. Having good always be the best option from a metagame standpoint cheapens that.
this is the thing i hate the most about evil choices in most rpgs. it is always the inferior choice even though it is often the selfish and greedy option and should benefit you more than doing the "good" thing
evil doesn't always need to be better but it is annoying when it is the worse choice 99% of the time
It's basically become easy mode, hard mode.
the other things is that you cant be ruthless good and punished the evil
if you want to play 'good' you are forced to play as soft heart homosexual who forgive and show mercy to these who deserve rope
It's just like Black folk irl, short term pleasure vs long term success and the former leads to jail
Ridiculous. This is the mode of writing devs have been following for decades, and it's demonstrably terrible and not at all aligning with how evil acts usually shake out.
"Evil" is usually done in the name of long-term gain, while emotional people scream about it because they can only see what's in front of their nose.
No
>Image is of a Satan follower decapitated
>text asking about evil choices
Glad you made the Right, Good, and just choice anon.
Bless You.
Satan did nothing wrong.
well that depends on how the devs writes and designs those choices. Bioware and a lot of aRPG people will signpost things way too hard so the "evil choice", something like renegade shepard in ME, becomes a conscious effort on my part to be an butthole for fun and I'm not feeling guilty because I was actively seeking to frick with the NPCs and them getting fricked is funny and expected. I do feel bad sometimes in some games because I'll make a choice that seemed like a good option at the time but ends up being terrible for the characters involved.
Also it's outside the RPG-discourse boundaries but something that stuck with me is how bad I felt for killing the big daddies in bioshock back in the day because when you observe them and the sisters you can clearly see they care for each other and from their point of view you're a crack fiend trying to get a fix by cracking a little girl's skull open.
Killing Karlach was an evil choice?
Seemed more like a mercy kill.
without her you can't save orpheus which is the automatic bad end
You can turn yourself into a mindflayer tho
thats the bad end
>kill larlach
>travel to the next zone
>mizora spawns
>UMM SWEATY, KARLACH IS STILL BREATHING???
>turns Will into a devil for no reason
>talk to Will
>he feels bad about killing Karlach
What did she mean by this? Is it a bug?
You can't be evil in this game, only moronic evil that guts puppyes ocasionally for fun.
Or you can be a cuck onder stronk women's heel.
And that's that.
The choices are extremely limited. Writing team should be hanged.
I wouldn't know, I don't make evil choices in videogames.
What, uhh...what happened here?
Pussy allergy
a quick rundown
he didnt beat the botox allegations
He bought. He went all in.
he took the call
Did you really think death could stop me, Mon ami?
Please stop talking anon.
Fracture is better in cheesing Larian game RPGs:
>Eyo imma beat this game by teleporting this troll accross the map to beat up this bullshit slug boss then create HOLY SMOKE
body 2 vs body 4 Tav
why do monks have to be so up their own ass. why isn't there just a fightan class.
...there's literally a class just called Fighter. That fights. And most of its dialogue options are something a sword for hire would say.
not really but i usually save evil choices for good rewards like getting an extra skill point by sacrificing the orphans to the blood mage in dao. wynn was mad at me for it tho
I felt bad for killing the coward demon in WOTR
But he was a demon tho
no i'm not autistic
Kind of but it isn’t what forces me to be a good guy in video-games. What makes me do that is the fact that being evil usually has very small and insignificant benefits that locks you out of other content that is more worthwhile. This isn’t just a problem with BG3 but RPGs in general. Like there is no reason outside of role playing as captain evil of death island why you should side with the powder gangers at good springs in fallout new Vegas. Like wow, I just killed off an entire village of potentially useful services for the early game just so I can do hits for the powder gangers who I’m most likely going to kill off anyway!
I agree. Fable 1 did it right imo, simply because it never took itself too seriously. The characters all were pretty annoying so killing them never felt guilty (plus their deaths were goofy and cartoonish most of the time). Killing them gave you unique items and stealing also had basically no negative consequences while making the game easier.
No. It's not me and it's not real. I don't empathize with pixels.
you clearly do to some extent otherwise you wouldn't play rpg-s
The closest I ever got to feeling something for a character was the last fight in Mother 3. Overall I'm just not motivated by character stories or drama. I like team building and deploying strategy.
BG3's early acts have a problem with the evil option being 'stupid evil' i.e. an act that benefits you in no way what whatsoever and is effectively the detached maliciousness of someone who knows they're playing a game.
>Killing Karlach
Gets you nothing, loses you 8 feet of dumb loyal muscle.
>Siding with the goblins
Killing the druids and the tieflings doesn't help you (it hinders you), no one at the camp even vaguely intimates they can or will help you in any way oh and they're all members of a cult specifically out to kill you.
I'm only interested in evil shit that helps me, not moronic murder hobo edginess.
>BG3's early acts have a problem with the evil option being 'stupid evil' i.e. an act that benefits you in no way what whatsoever and is effectively the detached maliciousness of someone who knows they're playing a game.
that is perfectly fine and realistic. why shouldn't the player be able to just casually whack whoever he feels like? the way i see it, everyone should be murderable, no matter how important they are or unimportant they are. that's real role-playing. why put up arbitrary borders just because and then act like some pompous elitist c**t and be all like "noooo! you can't do that broooo! that's just being randomly and illogically ebiiil and doens't serve the plot at alll duuuuurrrrrrrr!!!".
I didn't say you should be able to do it, you can and such people are justly 'rewarded' for being moron murder hobos by Larian as all GM's should.
I'm saying there are no smart evil options. You can't wrangle the Wyll/Karlach/succ situation to your benefit. The smart evil options (early on) are just 'I helped you give me more money' which is also fine but I want power.
maybe the world is not yet ready for that kind of power? tyranny came sort of close, kind of, but that game didn't sell super well, so who knows.
That's the thing though - the evil that does benefit you is subjective and there are plenty of options to do so. They just are written as obviously evil, because they aren't. It's called subjectivity and it's good that an RPG is written that way.
are not*
I think killing the paladins for karlach feels more evil. But I guess they got brain worms so it's alright.
I feel Japanese games do this better. The Spirit of Eternity Sword allows you to rape your subordinates for your own pleasure (which gets you explicit sex scenes, and unlocks certain powers) and you're encouraged to commit massacres and so on for mana. Which is a not-insignificant resource in a wargame, too!
You get notably more powerful if you're evil. The evil campaign is shorter, but it's not exactly a bad one, you become a god-king.
yeh, i never play as a total bad guy. way too nice for that. except if some random loser is a serious dick to me, then that dude is totally toast. still don't feel guilty, though.
Why would I feel bad about killing pointy-ears?
why would i feel bad killing these shitty companions? unfortunately we can't make our own hirelings so i have to use reddit gnome with another one.
Pic rel is favorite morality system in a videogame
What is even more funny to save sisters is a more optimal way for the speedrunners
trash system
would have actually been interesting if you got 0 adam from saving sisters until the pay out rewards from them
as it stands you get barely less adam for saving them and then extra on top
>I've never actually played a game with a moral system
FTFY
Depends if I can rape the corpse afterwards. If not then yeah, its a bit wasteful but if yes then all is well.
You'd think using the severed head for oral gratification would be a dark impulse option but I guess the devs can't think of everything.
>make "evil" choice in game
>suddenly whole game locks you out of ever making a "good" choice again
>game deliberately makes bad outcomes for you
Yes. I physically couldn't make 15 year old me do to the evil choices in Kotor 1 and 2.
kotor 1 i played a good boy until the end when i was too brainlet to realize you could turn bastila back to the light side
nowadays i play dark side just to get rid of carth
I found darkside in kotor easier than most games since the darkside literally turns you objectively evil. That and while some DS options are moron edginess most actually make things easier for you.
I used to not, but now I generally prefer playing as a good character
No. I killed a homeless man in 2008.
rarely, but the Astarion ascension was one of the most satisfying choice ever in a game, like you get an absolutely broken party member or some hobos(free xp btw) helping you later? LOL
I betrayed Kuro for the Shura achievement
When I was 9 I was playing Maniac Mansion and I wondered what would happen if I "Use" Ed's hamster on the man-eating plant so I tried it. I was inconsolable the entire weekend.
Nope.
>Killed Karlach
>Told that little girl in act 3 to GTFO
>I told Cullen in DA:I that drugs are good
I don't even feel bad for doing evil things in real life.
what evil things could you possibly do in your mom's basement, anon? squishing bugs? not folding your clothes? did you not wash your hands?
Worse: I cut tags on mattresses that I don't buy.
Yes. Yes I do.
I want to be a good person for the sole reason that I knew I did something right and people are better off for it.
No. Because I don't really choose the "evil" options since they are goofy shit that no logical person would make or offer any advantage to your goal.
How do you know the good choices you're making aren't evil choices?
I have the power of God and anime on my side.
If I hear a little voice in my head say "hey man don't do that" or "hey dude you should do that" I choose to listen to it instead of ignoring it.
just like real life, i dont
unironically yes, but devs also condition you to do good even when given the choice. even when its without consequence like fable it just ends up being fart on them for 3g more so its just not worth it most of the time and since in other games your companions have pithy dialogue when you do it I tend to avoid it. Also, its like a no hit run kinda thing where when you pick one you never stray the path and 99% your first choice awards good boy points.
I like in ME where you have a total one but they have massive weights so you can be a dick all the time with a heart of gold etc.
im always evil in ninty games tho
TOTAL TIEFLING DEATH
Yes, I take my single player games very seriously. I like to roleplay as someone who fights evil and inspires hope in other people regardless of the game.
Yes.
Me too anon. If I can play paladin, I will. I'm very empathetic.
yes however bg3 makes it so much easier to kill these people with no regret
No, nobody is actually harmed so there is nothing to feel guilty about.
>NOOOOO!!! YOU CAN'T BE DISUGSTED BY FICTIONAL UGLY PEDO MOLESTER, BECAUSE... BECAUSE HE FICTIONAL, THAT'S IT!!!
Frick off. If i see something as disgusting IRL, i will see it as disgusting in fiction too.
that's not even his point, stupid. you're supposed to find it disgusting. you're not supposed to think its a plot hole, or that the story would be better without them..
I am actually. In fact, I've started to see meta of such characters.
And vast majority of the time they are meant as cheap shock content, often with the author barely hidden wanking.
Yes, I'm perfectly aware that author made them killable, but that doesn't excuse writing them at all.
I'm not interested seeing dirt in muh fantasy world.
So I don't blame the fictional characters, I hold writers accountable for the crimes they written and would quite enjoy killing them IRL.
if they played by your rules and there was no shock or things you disagree with you'de complain about everything being banal and devoid of depth you disingenuous slime.
I'm not the eternal contrarian to be incapable of enjoying simple things.
Cheap shock content IS the banal and lack of depth.
Nowhere does it say you can't be disgusted by the character moron.
I don't feel guilty but I do feel bad because 90% of the time devs make the evil choice far less rewarding or practical than being a good guy.
Like in Bioshock where harvesting the girls is ultimately less rewarding than saving them once you factor in the gifts they send you.
No I'm still malding that I cant kill the kids in fricking cp2077
Yes, which is why I basically never do evil playthroughs in games no matter how many times I've played them. Why would I want to make the world, even a virtual one, an objectively worse place by my actions?
They need real good vs evil options, like a good option where you actually try to solve the root problem of the tiefling refugee crisis and then the evil one where you start a fake charity in their name and make millions of gold pocketing the donations.
Almost always. If being evil gives you more stuff though (think Bioshock) then it's pretty obvious which one I'm gonna pick.
I think Bioshock 1 handled it well as by the late game you got around 3500 Adam for rescuing every little sister and around 3800 Adam for harvesting every little sister. But rescuing gave you some extra ammo and plasmids, so it was arguably a better choice.
sometimes yes
im a chaotic good
>awww look, she's smiling!
she didnt give me much of a choice she came at me after the race war started in the grove
Does the game just allow you to kill off all your party members? That seems like such an edgelord thing to do. Imagine befriending them and then betraying them one by one.
you can have party members kill eachother if you want
anyone got the shadowheart and the frog in camp webm?
I imagine it'd be more fun to turn them into your sycophants and covince them to sacrifice themselves in your name.
>Imagine befriending them and then betraying them one by one
I literally can't
Nameless is literal, textbook psychopath. It's actually part of the reason girls fall for him, they have unholy aura of absolute confidence.
Yes, because it often means I get less rewards from of the act compared to being a goody two shoes. Doubly so if I don't clear the quest in some esoteric optimal manner.
Yeah its always
>Kill the bandits who you then get to loot and doing this quest also lowers vendor prices throughout the game
or
>Side with the bandits and get way worse loot/exp off the townsfolk and no vendor reduction oh and you're not allowed to double cross them afterwards
Give me a game where I can side with the bandits but then betray them and save the day in the middle of their raid to make myself look like an even bigger hero.
That's what a game with actual player choice would look like, but writing 28 different outcomes with far-reaching consequences for every little sidequest just isn't going to be possible with the state of current game devs. Most barely bother putting in 2.
I remember hearing about how dead space has an ai director in charge of controlling enemy popups and musical stings to create a more uniquely tailored and intense experience. It'll be interesting to see the day when a highly sophisticated version of that is tracking player choices and altering content on the fly.
For that to happen we'll need another 15-20 years of consumer electronics progress, the average pc is not strong enough to run all the processes video games do on top of a fit neural network that sorts out choices, definitely possible at a theoretical level though.
cant you basically do this to drow prostitute in the grove
What about bawd morality? Wake me when I have the option to roll a femgob bard who fricks and sucks her way across the countryside and ends up saving the world through sheer happenstance.
>frenzy
>through head
Yea, unless I have good reason for it or it'd be funny/cool to see I don't like being evil. Thievery and small time crime sure, but the heinous shit that some CRPGs can let you do/think what a villain path would do is too much.
This also correlates into real life where I'm super intuitive of other people to an autistic degree.
I only make right choices, because I play as the person I want to be / should be according to God.
So if I come across a non-human in a game, then it's my duty to send that demon back to hell.
I felt uncomfortable killing a little sister in bioshock so I quit out and undid it.
the moment refugees are mentioned I inmediately side with them because I know the game devs will reward me for it
>the moment refugees are mentioned I inmediately side with them because I know the game devs will reward me for it
Lmao so true
Now that's some real gamer moment right there
>pick up an idol
>instead of the hippies getting mad at me they start a race war
>karlach is instantly hostile to me
i love when doing anything that isnt pure goody two shoes just locks out half the content
The idol isn't even that good. I think it gives you a slight bonus to nature and animal skill checks. That's your reward for being evil. You don't even get the cool nature magic that the shitty demon child who stole it too got.
>Causing the death of tielflings
>evil
The most basic thing they could do is have the quest rewards and vendor loot on corpses so that killing them doesn't give you more than being a good two shoes, but it at least gives it to you faster.
As it is, lots of quest rewards and vendor loot is nowhere to be found after killing the person who would give/sell it to you, which makes zero sense.
nope. Terribly cringeworthy character design that looks like something out of overwatch
Rarely. The bigger problem is that making the good choices leads to better rewards or more content in some manner so I wind up having to pick the good guy choice to get optimal equipment/party/xp. I still do bad guy playthroughs anyway, it's just lame that the bad guy choices have little thought put into them. Most of the time its blunt evil with little logic to it, like just cutting some guys head off or kicking a baby.
This. Being good in RPGs is too easy because there is almost never a cost to being good. But that's usually not how life works. Devs should actually make it hard to make the good choice sometimes by actually locking you out of powerful loot.
Hell spawns are objectively evil, there is no wrong in smiting evil and their lies will not change this fact.
Are they hell spawns when they turned into demons because their leaders struck a deal with devils and they had no part in it? That's most thieflings
>implying you can delegate the selling of your soul
lol
lmao even
Wtf you can romance mezora? I recruited her and talked to her basically every long rest and she never prompted me
My sense of good and evil does not usually align with the writers. For instance, I personally think the people that attack Abel the tyrant ending had it coming. Also Keisuke did literally nothing wrong.
People doing evil things in games are psychopaths in real world and people who deny it are psychopaths who are capable of act on it.
It's that simple.
youre just a pussy ass b***h anon
True. It's not an issue if you sometimes do something evil for fun or testing, but if you consistently and constantly play as evil or do evil things in games or any roleplay or simulation, you absolutely have an issue. Some people can live with it, but usually there are mental issues.
And what, to you, is evil exactly?
Cutting off a female head and posting it on Ganker to jerk off to it.
Anon already knows in his heart of hearts that it isn't real and nobody is actually hurt. I don't think saying he could do it in real life based on that alone is fair. Aren't you just fear mongering?
If you think specific thoughts in specific environments are somehow void of being related to larger life, I don't know what to tell you. Everything is connected and everything affects all.
That's a load of hot bullshit right there. Actions taken in a world the actor understands to be fictional cannot be an equivalent representation of what they would do in a world they know is real, by virtue the divergent types of beliefs he regards those worlds with. Your philosophy needs work.
In my OG comment I never said they would do it, only if they are in denial about it. Which, funnily enough, you're doing right now.
Have a great night, anon 🙂
The implication is that they would do it, else their denial would be the truth and no denial at all.
Run away, you've lost.
truthbomb dropped
I always knew that and I never believed "it's just a game" people.
The more comfortable those kinds of people get around you, the more the mask slips, and it becomes very apparent that most things are games to them.
Can confirm.
Though if I notice that a person is a normalgay I drop him before he gets too annoyed with me.
I wish one of my old friends was as merciful as you. Or that I was less of a rube. Maybe both.
So you guys play zero games with murder, fighting, etc on the grounds that people who do are psychopaths irl? Are you guys soccer moms or something? Smells like the "video games cause violence" crowd.
No, I love all kinds of violent video games. I just don't revel in torturing fictional characters. We aren't talking about violence, we're talking about cruelty.
I also want to be crystal clear that I don't think these sorts of outlets for cruel impulses should be done away with. I'm glad they exist. And I don't think that the people who do this kind of stuff are bad people per se, just that they likely have psychopathic tendencies.
Videogames don't cause violence, rather they may serve as an indicator that a particular child is prone to it.
>prejudges and large amounts of people, classifies them as the worst type of being he can possible think of
>I am a good person!
You self-righteous clowns are a very sad joke.
I mean...?
Don't care.
Talk shit - get shot. Watch yourself, psycho.
>he didn't roleplay as a hooker serial killer in GTA
Bullshit
So when I killed all those civilians in No Russian, did that make me a mass shooter
No. You're willfully misunderstanding this. I figured it was pretty clear given the context of this thread that anon was talking about people who choose to be evil when provided the option to not be evil.
But I could have chosen not to shoot anyone, killing people in that sequence is optional. The whole level is skippable, too
Well if you want to take it to its logical conclusion, I did actually outright refuse to play those games when they were popular because they're American military propaganda. I didn't even play any WW2 shooters because I found it in very poor taste that people were making video games out of a war my great grandfather fought in. So I guess in that regard I'm a soccer mom or whatever.
But getting away from that, I think you know exactly what that anon meant when they said that. People who go out of their way to be cruel in video games are obviously using it as an outlet.
>blowhard nonsense response
I don't ever even play evil characters, but this projection is really sad. Some people want to see the outcomes, some people find dark humor in it, some people know it's a video game and can disassociate it from reality.
The fact is, your average shooter will have you pile up hundreds / thousands of corpses. It far outweighs any cruel moral choice you could make in these games, so even trying to make this point is honestly so laughable to me. In this attempt at psychoanalyzing people over their choices in a video game, you've somehow devalued the value of human lives that are supposedly surrogates for their cruelty.
You are awfully defensive about this for some reason. Even wrote me a little huffy line of greentext about it.
I don't think people who don't play games like I do are bad people. At no point did I say that. I also think it's laughable that you think I'm devaluing human lives by merely having an opinion and choosing to not play certain video games. You're hysterical.
Not true, people who cant distinguish between reality and media are sub 100iq and that is a fact. It is not real and it is interesting to see what would happen.
What makes you think I can't separate reality from fiction? I just don't want to go out of my way to watch torture porn.
Don't know if I agree with that other guy, but I would argue that people who are incapable of being emotionally involved with fiction "cuz it's not real lol" are genuinely unintelligent.
I'm that other guy and I agree with you.
Fiction can be about bad things or even be openly morbidly evil without representing the views or desires of the reader. That is also unintelligent thinking. It's like how a lot of people thought Undertale calling them a bad person for comitting genocide was a personal insult to them as a person and not just a part of the story. Silly.
I think it's one thing when fiction is about those things and another thing entirely when fiction allows you to fully inhabit an evil role. I realize that might be a bit pedantic of me, but I just have to say that I've come to this conclusion after having met people who love to be evil in games. I'm of course silly for spending this much time on this discussion on Ganker, but I'm no dummy.
And Grand Theft Auto is teaching our children to murder prostitutes for bonus points. Come on now. A lot of the people doing evil playthroughs of RPGs are merely testing the limits of what the game will account for. Or they're just choosing to perversely play the role of villain. A lot of them have already done or will go on to do a "morally sound" playthrough as well.
I'm not really interested in continuing this conversation if you're going to paint me in the same vein as Jack Thompson when I have at no point said that people who do evil things in games will go on to do evil things in life. All I've said was that they're using it as an outlet.
You always have option to not be evil. Just quit the game. But you don't want to. Like all "good" people you just need an excuse.
>I didn't have a choice
>It's okay to do bad things to bad people
I'm sorry, are you talking about someone else? Did you actually read my posts?
Anon, my Skyrim characters tend to eat every single thing to find what they do but you well I don't wanna eat a poison dart frog
I don't think so. Even as a kid when I played things like Infamous I always went evil. I don't go dark unless I get something out of it though.
yea I do
picture unrelated (it was the right call)
When did Ganker get filled with little Jack Thompsons?
I felt kinda bad when you turn down Wyll why did they make him look so hurt lmao
Go frick my hotwife Shadowheart or something bro it's all good
Why is all the art in this game look worse than Andromeda...
I usually have no trouble doing evil playthroughs in RPGs, but Black Souls fricked me up.
Frick you, protect her at all cost!
Why do trannies love karlach so much?
She's the ideal boyfriend.
Disgusting
You are gay
What would you find more terrifying/unnerving: finding the dismembered head of someone you know, or finding their headless body?
Both would be equally terrifying.
Only in KOTOR. That evil route is fricked.
sometimes a little bit
Im playing rouge and I showed thieving kids couple tricks and even gave them some money to finance their little thieves guild once they make it to the city
I felt a little sad when I found them all slaugtered along with the bard who tried to defend them but oh well, I got to infiltrate the cult in return.
This guy is a straight up knock off of Drax from the Guardian series isn't he?
Murder hobo is absolute cringe, but dickish or ruthless evil with a contextual motivation can be really fun
SMT IV, they made Walter the best of the party along with the best ideal. Then monkey-b***h impales herself in front of you right before the final dungeon, and then you're stuck taking this guilty walk through the place and kill the boss, only to see the upper terrania in pandemonium because "LOL the strong fight off the weak", and you don't realize in the moment they meant "demons vs humans without devil summoning programs". It's a good ending because I still remember it, but it's because it made me feel really bad for an ending that was awful for everyone but me and those few around me
Can you kill her later if she leaves party in first act?
Nope. that b***h deserves to die for being a pedophile.
What's even wrong with this. Karlach is telling the Tiefling kid she likes their hustle. Scamming, while morally dubious, is one of the few ways for less fortunate people to make their way. And before you go "but stealing from their people just reinforces the stereotype of them being thieves!" Well, a rich person can steal just as much as a poor person but they get commended for it. Systems broke and people on top don't want to fix it.
You either get, or you get got. Especially in Faerun
5 threads now. you've followed him into 5 threads to spout this bullshit.
Well I haven't. I found him in 2 threads so I guess other people are picking up the slack.
It doesn't matter. morons are gonna read in to whatever they want. I should waste the effort
>accidentally blow up the guidance truck at the end of mercenaries
>just fricking sent millions to die in nuclear hellfire
little kid heart sank so much i save scummed
>druids kill a tiefling girl
>I take Vengeance upon all the druids as penance
>tiefling companion now hates me
Kill her too. I f she doesn't want justice, she doesn't deserve it.
Oh she got what she fricking deserved. Now I'm going to recruit Minty I guess even though this was supposed to be a goody playthrough. On that note, Vengeance paladin is a very difficult oath to break.
>Vengeance paladin is a very difficult oath to break
It really isn't. Either kill the tieflings who captured the frog b***h, or let the Goblin out of her cell.
Neither of those will break the Vengeance oath. I killed the entire druid grove no problem.
>Neither of those will break the Vengeance oath
Except they fricking do, because I've done both and reloaded because I didn't like it thematically
Ended up just rolling with it after letting Ethel go because I wanted my stat boost
That wasn't an evil choice for my paladin.
Guys said there was a demon murdering people and I acted accordingly.
Ah, the whole single digit IQ paladin.
It's not my character's fault that Wyll raped the conversation and there aren't good dialogue options after. Following his bullshit the only options I could take were something like "They were lying about you", which I had no reason to believe, and "they put a bounty on your head", which is true and isn't necessarily hostile. SHE attacked ME after that, which only leaves one conclusion about her character barring metagaming.
My paladin has at least 2 IQ, thank you very much. Writing fricked him.
>having wyll in the party ever
Hindsight is 20/20.
I came in my pants after killing both owlbear mother and cub
I'm still mad you can't kill kids in videogames anymore. It's not that I want to it's that I should be able to.
ok murder hobo
Yes if its well written, in this game I legit could not care for anything, I was going trough the motions as nothing really interested me about the scenarios and people presented to me in ths story.
>Do you ever feel legitimately guilty for making evil choices in video games?
It's a fricking demon m8, look at it. Horns, red skin, sharp teeth. Kill it and be on your way.
no but if i roleplay as good i need to be good
No, because modern devs are self-righteous imbeciles unable to get me invested in the setting. The good vs evil debate makes sense when being evil is more profitable, and you have to forego material compensation to do the right thing. Motivations for this can be either purely out of duty or maybe empathy, assuming the entire cast of chars aren't just unlikable dickwads and writer's pets.
Since dickwad NPCs sadly seems the common thing now, I tend to just do the evil thing for financial gain, which in the current day translates to: be a duplicitous psychopath that does the thing the imbecilic devs want in each case (be that "good" or "evil"), max out the reward, and then afterwards molotov the NPCs once the cutscene is over.
I still tend to be moral if the game deserves it, for example in Planescape Torment.
depends on the action.
I abduct and put every single female Khajiit into a sex dungeon, it's the highlight of every single one of my playthroughs.
I played pic related as a bad guy on my first playthrough. I didn't like any of the characters, and never felt bad for killing everybody who wanted to waste my time.
that couldnt be me. i feel bad for being slightly rash towards an npc.
I felt terrible for wasting my time on that shit game, even after going back to every single dangerhair lesbian quest giver and blowing their cap off. That one minute of bliss didn't compensate so many hours of bullshit. Thank god I pirated it at least.
It was the most "Reddit" game I've played and judging by the sequel's trailer, they're going even MORE Reddit now.
I played it because I loved New Vegas, and I regret it. At least the bad guy play through took like 10 hours.
I have no desire to make evil choices.
I felt pretty bad snatching that tiefling's lute out of her hands and smashing it on the ground right in front of her but it was too funny not to.
yes, it's called having empathy or possibly even too much empathy. and it's not surprising that people do, because they specifically write and voice lines etc with the intent to make you feel bad.
not even evil choices, just kicking someone out of your party is designed to make you feel bad
There isn't a single game that has a satisfying evil route. They're all poorly written and obviously an afterthought compared to the hero route.
>There isn't a single game that has a satisfying evil route
Someone has never played KoTOR and forced their wookie slave to kill their 14 year old friend.
Soukou Akki Muramasa
>game
So your Paladin lacks critical thinking and lets others sway opinion without seeing all the facts and also takes one strangers word over another arbitrarily. Both, in character your Paladin is going to feel like a fricking idiot later.
Whoops.
Depends
If I'm doing a self insert run I feel bad, but I could do the most horrible shit possible and not feel anything if I'm doing a role play run
What bothers me about Karlach is that she just feels like a mary sue character. She has 8 int, but she doesn't talk like it at all. The shit about having an infernal engine in her chest just seems so over the top, I can't get why they did it
But she's also a pleasant character, since you get matched with 3 evil characters right from the start she's honestly kind of welcome
8 int doesnt mean you're a Neanderthal, it means you lack critical thinking and may not process information as fast or well as others. Karlach is exactly like that. 10 int is the average human int so 8 is just under and you have people with sub 100iq talking fine. If you look into things in the Nine Hells and the infernal machinery, the engine thing is not wild at all when you have monster trucks powered off souls with beating hearts and shit.
Yeah i know that the engine is pre-existing, but this insanely strong tiefling that has one stuck in her body? And she's literally on fire most of the time as a result, but can withstand And everyone thinks she's super cool and she's a good person actually and Wyll was completely wrong to want to kill her.
Every NPC likes her and has good things to say. Even Lez, our resident b***h, is jizzing over her. It's so strange.
If she was in a DMC game or something I'd think she was pretty cool, but in context of this setting she feels like one writer's favorite OC.
And the way she speaks, giving detailed instructions on how to kill demons, and the intricacies of devils? It just doesn't feel right. I know that there were rewrites on parts of the story, so I'd believe it if her stat block change was arbitrary.
during my lich run in Pathfinder wotr i felt bad whenever i had to kill my favorite companions. letting Lann die by his own tribesmen, mindbreaking ember and corrupting Arue back into a average Succubus and then killing her was hard.
I will buy your game now
>not keeping Evilrue alive so she can make fun of your lichcel form
what a coward.
>evil
No such thing, conventional morality is cringe
I remember when tieflings used to be cute and not hideous like this monstrosity. I miss Annah.
There's no such thing as evil.
It's only a matter of perspective.
No. I almost came when I provoked little tiefling shit to run and get bitten by a viper. Too bad the game peaked early in this regard
Yes, even when it's something I don't think is really bad if I get admonished in the game it hurts.
>devs went through the effort of meticulously naming and characterising every single humanoid NPC in the game
>consequencly feel like shit when any of them die
It's like being in WW2 but you're forced to see a picture of Fritz's parents before shooting him.
>Walk up to a goblin girl in the camp as a tiefling
>Goblin: "I wish my dad diddled a devil, so I could have horns like yours!"
She's right. Horns are cute.
Does this face look cute? Huh?
Also, I'm glad the game doesn't have the 'every NPC has a name' problem, when it comes to goblin children. hehe
Also kinda great how there's no outrage whatsoever about killing goblin children, it's part of the objectively good path.
>Also kinda great how there's no outrage whatsoever about killing goblin children, it's part of the objectively good path.
This was a bitter pill for me to swallow! I play a devotion paladin and put those kids to sleep instead of killing them. I was kinda flabbergasted when Halsin then immediately mauled them to death.
Frick them kids
They didn't even have names. That was the funniest thing, their mom just numbered them
It honestly does, but I don't know anything else about her besides the look.
>the footgay goblin
>something cool happens and a new NPC dies
>look up NPC
>they have a huge quest about them later and I spoiled it
Quit reading guides before you beat games you moron!
I tend to self insert in these games and make decisions as I would make them and I tend to make decisions that don't make me feel guilty, of course I make mistakes in life, but in a game it's really easy to not frick up an obvious decision.
I do subsequent playthroughs and in those I'll do an evil playthrough but I'm not self-inserting in those play throughs so no, I feel nothing.
God this game has such hot kills of chicks
I wish
I jerked off to my character getting her eye plucked out, just wish they would've actually shown the eye.
And in undeserved level of graphic detail. It's truly telling of times that such utter degeneracy is out in the open.
Devs would be jailed some 20 years ago.
Man people were homosexuals some 20 years ago
I have even worse news, Anon. The game is based on a satanic dice ritual called "Dungeons & Dragons".
The west has literally fallen.
We can only Pray the the russian forces manage to liberate the last few whites left in europe
>Eastern jarpigs do it
...
>Western do it
REEEEEEEEEE DEGENERACY
>Devs would be jailed some 20 years ago.
LMAO
Gaming didn't change shit in these 20 years, homosexual zoomer
Meanwhile, in games from 20 years ago.
Hot
>character portraits are just digitized photographs of the dev team in bad cosplay
I miss this
Implying that women had any involvement in the game development at the time when companies werent required by law to hire them
Why would I need to imply observable reality? It's not like we're talking about welding oil rigs together, moron. Women have been involved in creative industries for hundreds of years.
Its not, the most they did was accounting
You agitation about it is hilarious, fit right in for bg3 characters
>literal woman in the middle row
Being a zoomer is no excuse for being moronic.
You remind me of the people justifying that netflix slop
You remind me of someone who needs to jump off a bridge
But there's a girl in that photo? What exactly are you trying to prove? Sure, they were not there as often as today because they were not mandated to be there by shareholders, but they were there, those that actually wanted to work in the gamedev and create shit. Just like Amy Hening did, which is why game journos hated her so much and scum like cuckmann ultimately ousted her from the company.
yeah, I have far too much empathy. It effects even my fictional life. The hardest part of act 3 is knocking out all the red shirts and not accidentally killing them.
blessed drow poison.
First run? Yeah
Second run? homie why the frick would I be playing this game then?
The dude has a huge fricking house, he is not struggling to get by.
I can be both evil and good, without regret, because I am... All of me!
Try to play it off as character building and growth
>Play Dark Urge
>Try to balance good and evil, slightly leaning towards the latter
>Decide to kill grove as the first major act of evil
>Think nothing of it
>Go back for loot and other stuff I missed
>See the hidden cave with all the dead kids in there, one of them I saved and wrote about how much of a hero my character was
>Kill every goblin I see on sight
>My character's face when https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfevBIsVG1o
Imagine being such a monkeybrain you can't tell the difference between reality and pixels and start feeling things for Baldur's Gate 3 characters of all possible entities.
>evil choices
Ok devil
Depends on if they had it coming or not.
Used to. I used to go for Paragon/Good Karma type of playthrough, but now I know better that they're not real and it's surprisingly fun to play as the "bad" guy.
Yes, that's why I never do 'em.
You are a beta cuck if you DON'T make the evil choices. Alpha male establishes dominance and is not afraid of testosterone. Alpha male IS testosterone.
Based barbarian bro
Ironically intimidation lets you skip the fights
except in this game the evil choice is to become the Absolute's b***h. Or do I get to take over the cult or something? I'm ready to finish Act 3 right now.
Frick, meant to type Act 1
Letting the goth and frog fight was some fricked up shit man...
The game surprisingly doesnt hold back when it comes to killing of people
As an alpha male, all choices I make are good.
I'm straight so everything I frick is a female.
Simple as.
Yes, I don't like being mean, even to fictional characters.
Lol. beta.
>alpha = being mean
beta mind
>Yes, have your way with my wife, I will not be angry, I will not be mean, I will help you
That's you.
God bless him. There are never enough suckers in the world
>brings up his wienerold fantasy out of nowhere
like clockwork
"Good" people tend to be very companionable to their assaulters
very interesting, now stop replying to me and go back to imagining big strong men raping your wife like alphas do
Projecting
we know
No, why would I? it's not fricking real.
>Savescum scripted sequence to save random NPCs
>They don't say anything afterwards because the devs didn't think you could do it
So much for new standard
no because they're the fun choices
How is slaying demons ever bad? Only Hellboy gets a pass for being Catholic.
no, in fact I giggle about it
I just got this game and I want to roleplay as pic related? Best way to go about it and who is a human I can make my whipping b***h?
That would turn in to a gay fanfic very quick, go in to the ruins that are near the starting zone, get the lich from the cript, he will make it possible to hire mercenaries who are braindead but at least wont assault you all the time
Gotrek is probably dwarf barbarian, not sure if the are mohawks avaliable tho
You can't because every player voice just sounds like some dude. I don't even understand why they bothered with multiple voices.
This confused me too. The meticulous attention to detail spent everywhere else and then your voice options are
>guy 1
>guy 2
>slightly pompous guy
That's not evil, it's purging shit writing from the game, which is a favour to the developers
I just watched the beheading scene and holy frick that was terrible for a game in almost 2024. The knife animation just floats before it even cuts anything. Is the whole game this wonky?
Yes
There are a lot of them tho, my favorite is how there are custom animations for hobbits and other small humanoids
Only because they write them badly. I want to be "evil" my own way
yes. I felt bad for mindbreaking ember as lich in wotr