I was considering it, but after turning off animations on W10 things improved an insane amount. Everything is more responsive and snappy, like it should be.
I may switch to linux for a WM and faster startup times though.
My Linux installs have been emulator boxes now. Getting everything just right to play Gamecube, PS1, PS2 and Dreamcast games was pretty fun.
Obligatory Install Gentoo.
Why wouldn't I use the most functional tools? If I wanted some minimalist garbage I'd use arch. Gentoo is about maximum functionality and customization.
Depends on if you know how to configure a kernel from scratch or if you know how to configure your own bootloader yourself.
If you know what you're doing you can do it in less than an hour. If you don't know what you're doing you could probably spend an entire weekend getting it to work, but you'd have to learn what you're doing to even get a working install, so it's not time wasted.
Not him but I was able to fully install Gentoo within 48 hours, that includes compile times. I practiced in a VM first and was on a strict 72 hour time limit so I was prepared and rushing. I did up to the first emerge and then went to sleep while it compiled, I used genkernel though, which likely saved me a lot of time.
Personal servers are the future of personal computing anyway.
If you stick with Windows, you're just going to have a remote attestation terminal for interacting with Microsoft cloudshit because Microsoft and the lowest common denominator both agree on that.
It sort of sucks that GPU over IP for graphical programs seems limited to Wangblows right now, since demand is """supposedly""" low, but I guess that just shows that Microsoft's main strengths are pretending it has valuable marketshare, sabotage and backroom dealings.
Why wouldn't I use the most functional tools? If I wanted some minimalist garbage I'd use arch. Gentoo is about maximum functionality and customization.
Like, the DE itself and all its dependencies? I guess I don't understand because all I did was just grabbed the DE during installation. Please ellaborate.
You are confirming you have no idea what you're talking about, probably why you're confused someone would use KDE on Gentoo.
You probably use a tiling WM don't you? kek
i do, but at this point it's so straighforward that it's not even worth talking about. proton runs all of the stuff out of the box, when proton refuses to run something you're most likely completely blocked off due to fancy anticheat or something
>open source >mesa >written mostly by a "woman" >blog post with a bunch of caveats
I would not hold my breath. This looks like alpha quality of yet another piece of shit driver in the mesa family.
You can also name them and put them wherever you want in the file system, most file explorers will recognize them as their own devices.
For example, aside from my boot drive which is a sata SSD labeled Primary, I also have a hard drive labeled Stink that can either be accessed on the side bar of Dolphin (the file explorer included with the plasma desktop) or by navigating to its path via /media/Stink
I'm guessing, but i will have to reset my drives from NTFS to whatever Linux uses, right? I'm not sure about jumping on Linux, but i also don't really like this smartphone like OS microsoft is trying to force in. Like sure i can use thirdparty app and shits, but who knows what shit they figure out next.
Technically no, you can use NTFS drives on linux, but it's recommended you use ext4 or btrfs formatting since NTFS can introduce issues to running things like wine etc.
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So technically yes. Well at least i know i need a need drive to save some stuffs from the old one.
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Technically no as in yes to be practical you'd probably format your drive, but technically you could use a linux system formatted to ntfs.
It's technically true that you don't explicitly have to format ext4/btrfs but for a practically functional system you would.
You can't run a Linux install off of an NTFS filesystem (well you may actually be able to but it would probably be a bad idea) but Linux can read and write NTFS just fine now, as long as that NTFS disk indexing feature who's name I can't remember is disabled. As an example, if you have 2 NTFS disks, make one your system install drive, and you can keep the other one as it is.
>>I'm guessing, but i will have to reset my drives from NTFS to whatever Linux uses, right?
You can shrink the NTFS partition to make space for a linux one.
But dualboot is kinda obsolete. If you really need windows I'd run it in a VM under linux.
Technically drives in linux are organized similarly
SD (Sata Device) a b c d etc.
that's just the devices though, not the filesystem hierarchy
different distros arent really harming Linux development at all.
All the major distros are basically just package manager and update cycle that differ
The distros based on those major distros are just UI shit and configurations that are slightly different but ultimately the same
As a daily driver and for games that are older than a year old, yes, but Street Fighter 6 and Tekken 8 both run much worse compared to Windows and I don't know why, they take ages longer to start on Steam, too. Maybe it's because they're on an NTFS filesystem but they're on an SSD
I got no problem with dual booting but the next time I feel like starting from fresh installs I'm gonna get one of those W10 ISOs with everything ripped out of it except what I need solely for gayming
>Maybe it's because they're on an NTFS filesystem but they're on an SSD
its precisely because they are on NTFS and they run worse because they are on that
yeah, its a Windows filesystem for frick sake. Are you trolling now? They are different OSs, dont expect them to work the exact sameway
Try to do it the other way around, have Windows use Linux filesystem and see it not work at all
Why would windows need to support an inferior FS when NTFS is already outperforming? That just doesn't make sense. Sounds like linux devs have some work to do.
>Maybe it's because they're on an NTFS filesystem but they're on an SSD
of course it's because of that, and read speed won't save you from a fundamentally different proprietary filesystem that linux only handles due to lots of crude reverse engineering. i had some microstutters and minor loading lags, it all went away once i started installing games on ext4 instead of reusing windows steamlibraries
>I want my OLED TV to work the way it's supposed to
Does not justify introducing more proprietary shit into Linux. They tried getting the spec opened and it didn't work, they have no reason to do anything more on this issue. >Can't they just release an optional kernel module
They could if they ignored the GPL like NVIDIA does. I hope they don't.
>AMD makes proprietary drivers too, those probably support it.
They don't make proprietary kernel drivers. >Maybe someone else not affiliated with AMD will do it now that AMD can't.
That's the obvious solution, get a third party to reverse engineer the algorithm and distros in jurisdictions that don't recognize software patents (most of Europe) can ship the patch.
That would be a massive security hole. Also, no, frick off, no more mandatory blobs. You already know you have to compromise to preserve your freedom, it's your fault for buying a TV with HDMI 2.1 in the first place.
No idea. Installed it on Steam Deck once, I've simply downloaded a windows installer and added installer as a non-steam shortcut, gog installed and ran correctly, launcher was here, games were here. Tried doing the same on PC months later, it simply wouldn't launch after installation.
I think i did something extra on deck, but no idea what, can't remember for the life of me. One single bit of info I can give you is that it's definitely possible, and everything works fine once you set it up
As good moment as any to have me get it working on my PC, i've also got some gog vidya I'd like to have here. Let me look into it, I can imagine there's a bunch of little things I'd do if it wouldn't work out of the box, so I'll try installing it and checking the logs on why it fails. Will return with news if I'll find anything.
I did the same on PC and it didn't start after installation. As you said.
As good moment as any to have me get it working on my PC, i've also got some gog vidya I'd like to have here. Let me look into it, I can imagine there's a bunch of little things I'd do if it wouldn't work out of the box, so I'll try installing it and checking the logs on why it fails. Will return with news if I'll find anything.
you are using wine to run the installer. You most likely chose to install the thing onto a wine prefix (basically a fake windows filesystem that wine uses that every game uses). You were using the installer on Steam etc. and running the installer again obviously wont launch the installed executable. You need to launch that using wine, so you make the non-steam game thingy point to the installed executable
This is how it works for every single thing you install on wine. If you pirate games, this is what happens as well. First you run the installer, then you find the installed exe and run that. It wont give you the exe automatically since its using wine
if its running wine as a non-steam game then I would assume it would complain about something even without the logs
if you never get it to work, I am pretty sure Heroic game launcher supports cloud saves now
this is what it looks like. Drive_C has all that Windows stuff, Program files etc. If you during the installation just chose a path it gave you then the exe is here, somewhere in the program files
You can of course try to install it outside the wine prefix to your normal Linux files, some directory you wanted it to. I do that and it works for me at least.
>install the exe >use a launcher like heroic, lutris or heck even steam to launch the install exe with wine >after that, change executable to the installed exe to use GOG galaxy with wine
its not hard. Afterwards you can just have it as a desktop file easily on Lutris so you think it works indepdenently of the installator
if you still dont get it. This is pretty much the way you do it with Steam. Again, its easier to do it with Lutris because Steam makes the prefixes harder to read
anyway, what are some good games about diaper pooping?
furry oatmeal party forever
Yes.
Yep
I will when I get an AMD card, but I do use linux on a laptop unrelated to my uni work.
works on my machine
Yeah playing Last Epoch currently.
yes, playing factorio, morrowind and DRG currently.
I was considering it, but after turning off animations on W10 things improved an insane amount. Everything is more responsive and snappy, like it should be.
I may switch to linux for a WM and faster startup times though.
My Linux installs have been emulator boxes now. Getting everything just right to play Gamecube, PS1, PS2 and Dreamcast games was pretty fun.
Obligatory Install Gentoo.
No, because I'm not a terrorist.
>terrorist
l o l
no im not a troon
good morning sirs
Yea. All my windows games work great on Ubuntu.
YEAR OF THE LINUX 20XX
Yes, I just updated to Plasma 6.
About to play some Junkoid.
>using gentoo
>kernel 6.6
lol
More hassle than it's worth to do on a regular basis.
>Gentoo
>Plasma
Why
Why wouldn't I use the most functional tools? If I wanted some minimalist garbage I'd use arch. Gentoo is about maximum functionality and customization.
How long is gentoo install compared to arch if you don't count compile times?
Depends on if you know how to configure a kernel from scratch or if you know how to configure your own bootloader yourself.
If you know what you're doing you can do it in less than an hour. If you don't know what you're doing you could probably spend an entire weekend getting it to work, but you'd have to learn what you're doing to even get a working install, so it's not time wasted.
Not him but I was able to fully install Gentoo within 48 hours, that includes compile times. I practiced in a VM first and was on a strict 72 hour time limit so I was prepared and rushing. I did up to the first emerge and then went to sleep while it compiled, I used genkernel though, which likely saved me a lot of time.
Sure. I've been playing through a bunch of games on my Deck.
Yeah
I was playing Pizza Tower yesterday on my Steam Deck and did the Holy Shit run with John and Snotty Approved
Bas-
>Snotty approved
TOTAL SNOTTY DEATH
I mean it'll take me 2 and a half hours but I could do another one and kill him
No, it's for server not gayming
works on my machine.
Personal servers are the future of personal computing anyway.
If you stick with Windows, you're just going to have a remote attestation terminal for interacting with Microsoft cloudshit because Microsoft and the lowest common denominator both agree on that.
It sort of sucks that GPU over IP for graphical programs seems limited to Wangblows right now, since demand is """supposedly""" low, but I guess that just shows that Microsoft's main strengths are pretending it has valuable marketshare, sabotage and backroom dealings.
>KDE
>Functional
>A DE
>Customizable
Good joke.
>Good joke.
NTA, but what's your problem with it?
Just not a big fan of DEs because I was moronic enough to start installing and uninstalling components of them piecemeal.
Like, the DE itself and all its dependencies? I guess I don't understand because all I did was just grabbed the DE during installation. Please ellaborate.
He means installing the wm and dock and wallpaper manager and other stuff separately instead of installing them as part of a meta package
You are confirming you have no idea what you're talking about, probably why you're confused someone would use KDE on Gentoo.
You probably use a tiling WM don't you? kek
i do, but at this point it's so straighforward that it's not even worth talking about. proton runs all of the stuff out of the box, when proton refuses to run something you're most likely completely blocked off due to fancy anticheat or something
I have never once thought of Linux as a serious thing. It's always come off as cringe as hell.
What will this mean for the future of Nvidia on Linux?
Is that a troony? Why do all nerds become trannies?
Smart enough to understand women are privileged
Nothing. I'll continue to blacklist nouveau and install the proprietary nvidia drivers without issue, as I've done for the past 15 years.
Even if Nouveau has better FPS over proprietary?
>open source
>mesa
>written mostly by a "woman"
>blog post with a bunch of caveats
I would not hold my breath. This looks like alpha quality of yet another piece of shit driver in the mesa family.
NTA but what is wrong with mesa again? Works great on my GPU
I don't even know how to install linux without the driver letters (C: D: E: etc)
Technically drives in linux are organized similarly
SD (Sata Device) a b c d etc.
Ah really? I remember using linux a long ago, when i was kid. But i didn't remember how it looked like. If i don't like win11 or 12 i may go linux.
You can also name them and put them wherever you want in the file system, most file explorers will recognize them as their own devices.
For example, aside from my boot drive which is a sata SSD labeled Primary, I also have a hard drive labeled Stink that can either be accessed on the side bar of Dolphin (the file explorer included with the plasma desktop) or by navigating to its path via /media/Stink
I'm guessing, but i will have to reset my drives from NTFS to whatever Linux uses, right? I'm not sure about jumping on Linux, but i also don't really like this smartphone like OS microsoft is trying to force in. Like sure i can use thirdparty app and shits, but who knows what shit they figure out next.
Technically no, you can use NTFS drives on linux, but it's recommended you use ext4 or btrfs formatting since NTFS can introduce issues to running things like wine etc.
So technically yes. Well at least i know i need a need drive to save some stuffs from the old one.
Technically no as in yes to be practical you'd probably format your drive, but technically you could use a linux system formatted to ntfs.
It's technically true that you don't explicitly have to format ext4/btrfs but for a practically functional system you would.
You can't run a Linux install off of an NTFS filesystem (well you may actually be able to but it would probably be a bad idea) but Linux can read and write NTFS just fine now, as long as that NTFS disk indexing feature who's name I can't remember is disabled. As an example, if you have 2 NTFS disks, make one your system install drive, and you can keep the other one as it is.
>>I'm guessing, but i will have to reset my drives from NTFS to whatever Linux uses, right?
You can shrink the NTFS partition to make space for a linux one.
But dualboot is kinda obsolete. If you really need windows I'd run it in a VM under linux.
that's just the devices though, not the filesystem hierarchy
You can just label them that in the filesystem.
Yes. (Re)playing Elden Ring right now in preparation for the DLC.
Phone so technically yes.
Stop making distros and all work on one.
what methods would you use to convince freetards to do this?
different distros arent really harming Linux development at all.
All the major distros are basically just package manager and update cycle that differ
The distros based on those major distros are just UI shit and configurations that are slightly different but ultimately the same
for example. Biggest problems for Linux right now are wayland and drivers. That have nothing to do with what distro you have honestly.
Sometimes on my Steam Deck, otherwise no.
Daily drive it for windows games and emulators, it just werks.
Yes, I do
Yeah, been doing it for a couple of years now
No, I'm not mentally moronic.
I used to, but windows is just better for gaming, so I dual boot. I use linux for everything else.
As a daily driver and for games that are older than a year old, yes, but Street Fighter 6 and Tekken 8 both run much worse compared to Windows and I don't know why, they take ages longer to start on Steam, too. Maybe it's because they're on an NTFS filesystem but they're on an SSD
I got no problem with dual booting but the next time I feel like starting from fresh installs I'm gonna get one of those W10 ISOs with everything ripped out of it except what I need solely for gayming
>Maybe it's because they're on an NTFS filesystem but they're on an SSD
its precisely because they are on NTFS and they run worse because they are on that
Yet they run great on windows utilizing NTFS. Curious.
yeah, its a Windows filesystem for frick sake. Are you trolling now? They are different OSs, dont expect them to work the exact sameway
Try to do it the other way around, have Windows use Linux filesystem and see it not work at all
Why would windows need to support an inferior FS when NTFS is already outperforming? That just doesn't make sense. Sounds like linux devs have some work to do.
yeah, nice job trolling
Do you want help or not?
ntfs is slow as frick compared to any linux fs
>Maybe it's because they're on an NTFS filesystem but they're on an SSD
of course it's because of that, and read speed won't save you from a fundamentally different proprietary filesystem that linux only handles due to lots of crude reverse engineering. i had some microstutters and minor loading lags, it all went away once i started installing games on ext4 instead of reusing windows steamlibraries
played BG3 a week after release, it was fine
Why doesn't AMD just make a binary blob for HDMI 2.1 support if they can't open source it?
Why do you want binary blobs in your free operating system? Linking a blob with the Linux kernel violates the GPL anyway.
I want my OLED TV to work the way it's supposed to. Can't they just release an optional kernel module?
>I want my OLED TV to work the way it's supposed to
Does not justify introducing more proprietary shit into Linux. They tried getting the spec opened and it didn't work, they have no reason to do anything more on this issue.
>Can't they just release an optional kernel module
They could if they ignored the GPL like NVIDIA does. I hope they don't.
AMD makes proprietary drivers too, those probably support it.
It's the open source radv drivers that didn't get the feature.
Maybe someone else not affiliated with AMD will do it now that AMD can't.
>AMD makes proprietary drivers too, those probably support it.
They don't make proprietary kernel drivers.
>Maybe someone else not affiliated with AMD will do it now that AMD can't.
That's the obvious solution, get a third party to reverse engineer the algorithm and distros in jurisdictions that don't recognize software patents (most of Europe) can ship the patch.
>They don't make proprietary kernel drivers.
Well, can they control the HDMI parts from userspace? They could put the blob there.
That would be a massive security hole. Also, no, frick off, no more mandatory blobs. You already know you have to compromise to preserve your freedom, it's your fault for buying a TV with HDMI 2.1 in the first place.
How do you make GOG Galaxy work on linux? I need my cloud saves.
No idea. Installed it on Steam Deck once, I've simply downloaded a windows installer and added installer as a non-steam shortcut, gog installed and ran correctly, launcher was here, games were here. Tried doing the same on PC months later, it simply wouldn't launch after installation.
I think i did something extra on deck, but no idea what, can't remember for the life of me. One single bit of info I can give you is that it's definitely possible, and everything works fine once you set it up
I did the same on PC and it didn't start after installation. As you said.
As good moment as any to have me get it working on my PC, i've also got some gog vidya I'd like to have here. Let me look into it, I can imagine there's a bunch of little things I'd do if it wouldn't work out of the box, so I'll try installing it and checking the logs on why it fails. Will return with news if I'll find anything.
you are using wine to run the installer. You most likely chose to install the thing onto a wine prefix (basically a fake windows filesystem that wine uses that every game uses). You were using the installer on Steam etc. and running the installer again obviously wont launch the installed executable. You need to launch that using wine, so you make the non-steam game thingy point to the installed executable
This is how it works for every single thing you install on wine. If you pirate games, this is what happens as well. First you run the installer, then you find the installed exe and run that. It wont give you the exe automatically since its using wine
No, i'm changing executable path in steam and running galaxyclient after installation, that's not the issue here.
if its running wine as a non-steam game then I would assume it would complain about something even without the logs
if you never get it to work, I am pretty sure Heroic game launcher supports cloud saves now
this is what it looks like. Drive_C has all that Windows stuff, Program files etc. If you during the installation just chose a path it gave you then the exe is here, somewhere in the program files
You can of course try to install it outside the wine prefix to your normal Linux files, some directory you wanted it to. I do that and it works for me at least.
I installed it outside the wine prefix and it still doesn't start. Tried every proton flavor. It works on Steam Deck but not PC Linux, for some reason
you could try to launch the exe using lutris or heroic. Sometimes there might just be something wrong with the prefixes they are using
>install the exe
>use a launcher like heroic, lutris or heck even steam to launch the install exe with wine
>after that, change executable to the installed exe to use GOG galaxy with wine
its not hard. Afterwards you can just have it as a desktop file easily on Lutris so you think it works indepdenently of the installator
if you still dont get it. This is pretty much the way you do it with Steam. Again, its easier to do it with Lutris because Steam makes the prefixes harder to read