my guess is it's just people virtue signaling about how smart they are. how the frick do people find these spreadsheet MS Excel simulators entertaining?
>pretending
I believe the average GSG player is smarter than the average gamer. As such, because of the differences between each group of gamers, they find different things enjoyable.
I, for one, find resurrecting the ERE, conquering China as Japan, and centralising the HRE interesting, whereas you would find Bing Bing wahoo, angry man shoot gun and mobile games fun. Merely a difference of opinion.
this is not the case with asians even though they are smarter than whites.
asians are the smartest race on earth and generally GSG are not popular in East Asia. Even though their avg IQ is one standard deviation higher than that of western europeans they still prefer JRPGs, arcades, platformers, etc.
>pretending
I believe the average GSG player is smarter than the average gamer. As such, because of the differences between each group of gamers, they find different things enjoyable.
I, for one, find resurrecting the ERE, conquering China as Japan, and centralising the HRE interesting, whereas you would find Bing Bing wahoo, angry man shoot gun and mobile games fun. Merely a difference of opinion.
Or you just get too old and tired to play Quake anymore so you move on to the video game equivalent of building model trains like the boring dad you've become.
only if you want to be good at it. Most of the time I just human wave my enemies to submission.
Went Mamluks, fully Westernized as Egypt, all the while going north to take Moscow, after which I culture shifted to Muscovite and formed Russia. Since Egypt was Westernized by then, I immediately was able to become the Great Russian Empire with fricking Stelsky and Mamluk units.... and STILL gets my ass handed down to me by late game France
nope, Egypt has a westernization government mechanic where you get gov cap, goods produced, and shift to Western tech once completed. Mamluk's are pretty buffed by the last patch
It's kinda funny how they removed the mechanic and then added it to random countries for fun. Heard people complaining that Russia gaining Western units is stupid because the whole point of later Eastern units is to simulate them adopting Western doctrines.
but newer autism simulators like victoria 3 and and ck3 are pretty much the same.
also pic related, I've seen posts on reddit recommending you take ADHD medication before playing
>but newer autism simulators like victoria 3 and and ck3 are pretty much the same.
Victoria 3 and CK3 are normalgay friendly and require almost no autism.
No, they're fun. I play them and listen to history books.
This also, they haven't been particularly difficult or obtuse since then.
Yeah after 10 years of patches and dlc EU4 is more like a 4x. many decisions made by paradox especially recently with the Spanish Tinto studio and since DDR Jake was fired, were to make it easier and more straightforward.
Please name a better metric for measuring general levels of intelligence, and I will.
>tell him to not use smarts and intelligence interchangeably >he still uses intelligence as if it means the same thing as smart
Theres no south Koreans in the civ fanatics hall of fame ladder with deity Civilization 2 results above 300%.
But theres lots of Koreans in the Starcraft best ever player ladder.
Why is that?
EU4 is in a good state I'd say. They've settled into a predicable rhythm and the additional flavor is welcome. I'd like colonies to get a pass again though.
autism works, but more than anything it's the roleplay. If you've never wanted to carve a future for a nation you're not a man, youre woman with balls.
Don't worry about combat width much, just keep infantry at about 19 with some artillery and make sure tanks have 30+ org.
You could also just play a neutral country and mess around until you're comfortable.
Pretty much every Paradox game needs a second tutorial where you get plopped into a minor country with almost nothing to worry about but all the mechanics are there for you to learn.
It's how I learned EU4 and HOI4, by just going to Africa or South America and playing as a random minor state until I could reliably remember things like where the debase currency button was.
I needed three tries to get into it but now I am tearing up the Holy Roman Empire with Baden.
EU4 isn’t really that difficult. Just figure out how to go to war and you’re good
>peasant leader copt unifies whole egypt under caliphs nose from a single county >dies right after conquering last duchy >son faces resistance from caliph and immediately launches an independence war >just won with only one city holding under foreign control >game automatically calls the country kemet >going to adopt and reform hellenism and reform ptolemaic egypt fully tomorrow >did this before once but it's just a comfy campaign
god ck2 is kino (sometimes)
This is my craziest CK2 story >AI Tibetan child of destiny gets exiled from some shitty duchy in Tibet >Somehow ends up in Iraq where he converts to Coptic Christianity >Overthrows the Sultan of Iraq >conquers huge chunks of the Arabian peninsula and Persia >Almost conquers Mecca and Medina too >Dies having built a great dynasty, turned Coptic Christianity from a meme religion to a serious faith, and hundreds of kills to his name. >100 years later his descendants are still ruling his empire, conquered almost all of Persia and converted almost all their realm to Coptic Christianity
Dude literally created the kingdom of Prester John. You’d never see that kind of shit in CK3.
I dunno, I think having autism makes it more difficult to play alt-history games. Nearly everything that happens in them is absurd and it makes them hard to enjoy.
moron here. I got Crusader Kings 3 in the steam sale and it's overwhelming for like 20 minutes but even I figured it out. You don't need anything even close to autism for this shit.
I can't stand the war system in those games, only hoi4 is nice since you have actual borders, you feel like raiders in every other games, you spend more time trying to reach the enemies than actually fighting, most of the time they just run away from you for entire months counting you a ridiculous amount of money
Hoi4 is easy and simple and the only one I really enjoy
No? I guess if you have ADD then can be difficult.
my guess is it's just people virtue signaling about how smart they are. how the frick do people find these spreadsheet MS Excel simulators entertaining?
>pretending
I believe the average GSG player is smarter than the average gamer. As such, because of the differences between each group of gamers, they find different things enjoyable.
I, for one, find resurrecting the ERE, conquering China as Japan, and centralising the HRE interesting, whereas you would find Bing Bing wahoo, angry man shoot gun and mobile games fun. Merely a difference of opinion.
this is not the case with asians even though they are smarter than whites.
asians are the smartest race on earth and generally GSG are not popular in East Asia. Even though their avg IQ is one standard deviation higher than that of western europeans they still prefer JRPGs, arcades, platformers, etc.
That's due to cultural differences.
>smarter
>iq
Do not make the mistake of using smarts and intelligence interchangeably.
Please name a better metric for measuring general levels of intelligence, and I will.
Asians aren't smart, they're made moronic by Confucianism and centuries of European colonists trying to fix their shit.
Or you just get too old and tired to play Quake anymore so you move on to the video game equivalent of building model trains like the boring dad you've become.
its good. you gotta roleplay in your head a little
only if you want to be good at it. Most of the time I just human wave my enemies to submission.
Went Mamluks, fully Westernized as Egypt, all the while going north to take Moscow, after which I culture shifted to Muscovite and formed Russia. Since Egypt was Westernized by then, I immediately was able to become the Great Russian Empire with fricking Stelsky and Mamluk units.... and STILL gets my ass handed down to me by late game France
>Westernized
That's not a thing anymore, even with tag and culture shifts, your tech group stays the same.
nope, Egypt has a westernization government mechanic where you get gov cap, goods produced, and shift to Western tech once completed. Mamluk's are pretty buffed by the last patch
I'm not seeing it in here
https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Mamluk_missions
I see "Egypt Westernizing" Modifiers, but no actual tech group switch.
https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Common_government_reforms#Egyptian_Government
It's kinda funny how they removed the mechanic and then added it to random countries for fun. Heard people complaining that Russia gaining Western units is stupid because the whole point of later Eastern units is to simulate them adopting Western doctrines.
Some autism is a requirement, but not as much for EU4 and newer games like the type you needed for Hoi3 and Victoria 2.
but newer autism simulators like victoria 3 and and ck3 are pretty much the same.
also pic related, I've seen posts on reddit recommending you take ADHD medication before playing
>but newer autism simulators like victoria 3 and and ck3 are pretty much the same.
Victoria 3 and CK3 are normalgay friendly and require almost no autism.
Yeah after 10 years of patches and dlc EU4 is more like a 4x. many decisions made by paradox especially recently with the Spanish Tinto studio and since DDR Jake was fired, were to make it easier and more straightforward.
>tell him to not use smarts and intelligence interchangeably
>he still uses intelligence as if it means the same thing as smart
Theres no south Koreans in the civ fanatics hall of fame ladder with deity Civilization 2 results above 300%.
But theres lots of Koreans in the Starcraft best ever player ladder.
Why is that?
I find Vic3 harder than EU4 because balancing the economy annoys me. With EU4 I just attack my neighbor if I need more money
EU4 is in a good state I'd say. They've settled into a predicable rhythm and the additional flavor is welcome. I'd like colonies to get a pass again though.
No, they're fun. I play them and listen to history books.
This also, they haven't been particularly difficult or obtuse since then.
autism works, but more than anything it's the roleplay. If you've never wanted to carve a future for a nation you're not a man, youre woman with balls.
I can easily play EU4 but I have a very hard time grasping HOI4. You start with so many military units and each one has customization or some shit.
Don't worry about combat width much, just keep infantry at about 19 with some artillery and make sure tanks have 30+ org.
You could also just play a neutral country and mess around until you're comfortable.
Pretty much every Paradox game needs a second tutorial where you get plopped into a minor country with almost nothing to worry about but all the mechanics are there for you to learn.
It's how I learned EU4 and HOI4, by just going to Africa or South America and playing as a random minor state until I could reliably remember things like where the debase currency button was.
Ireland is always tutorial island.
Paradox games are pussy shit compared to AGEOD and Gary Grigsby games.
I needed three tries to get into it but now I am tearing up the Holy Roman Empire with Baden.
EU4 isn’t really that difficult. Just figure out how to go to war and you’re good
eu4 is actually a 4x game
just be a young and impressionable protofascist
>peasant leader copt unifies whole egypt under caliphs nose from a single county
>dies right after conquering last duchy
>son faces resistance from caliph and immediately launches an independence war
>just won with only one city holding under foreign control
>game automatically calls the country kemet
>going to adopt and reform hellenism and reform ptolemaic egypt fully tomorrow
>did this before once but it's just a comfy campaign
god ck2 is kino (sometimes)
This is my craziest CK2 story
>AI Tibetan child of destiny gets exiled from some shitty duchy in Tibet
>Somehow ends up in Iraq where he converts to Coptic Christianity
>Overthrows the Sultan of Iraq
>conquers huge chunks of the Arabian peninsula and Persia
>Almost conquers Mecca and Medina too
>Dies having built a great dynasty, turned Coptic Christianity from a meme religion to a serious faith, and hundreds of kills to his name.
>100 years later his descendants are still ruling his empire, conquered almost all of Persia and converted almost all their realm to Coptic Christianity
Dude literally created the kingdom of Prester John. You’d never see that kind of shit in CK3.
Lol, based.
One of my favorite campaigns in CK2 is the Nestorian county in India.
That and reformed Germanic migration to Britain.
I dunno, I think having autism makes it more difficult to play alt-history games. Nearly everything that happens in them is absurd and it makes them hard to enjoy.
moron here. I got Crusader Kings 3 in the steam sale and it's overwhelming for like 20 minutes but even I figured it out. You don't need anything even close to autism for this shit.
I can't stand the war system in those games, only hoi4 is nice since you have actual borders, you feel like raiders in every other games, you spend more time trying to reach the enemies than actually fighting, most of the time they just run away from you for entire months counting you a ridiculous amount of money