Do you think Pokemon should've remained a world where animals exist alongside Pokemon, and they're two different creatures? Similar to how a lot of JRPGs have monsters and animals roaming the land.
Do you think Pokemon should've remained a world where animals exist alongside Pokemon, and they're two different creatures?
Yes. Somehow the pokemon world ecosystem makes less sense when pokemon are supposed to replace every single animal. Like are there microscopic pokemon representing microfauna or what?
>Like are there microscopic pokemon representing microfauna or what?
yes
Pokerus aren't microscopic or microfauna. They're basically fleas that give your mons steroids.
Is Pokerus just one species of microscopic organism, or is it a blanket term for all microscopic organisms?
Why is it OK for Pokemon to replace animals, but not plants? Should every palm tree be an exeggutor? Should every lily pad be a lotad? And hey, what about smaller animals, like bugs, or plankton? And rocks, we have rock pokemon, so why do we have rocks?
Yes. Also all the objects. Mt. Green? Pokemon. Pokeball? Pokemon. Pants? Pokemon. Burger? Live pokemon. Human waste? Pokemon.
No because I can't battle with them.
I'm iffy on it.
The early Pokemon setting, where it was basically just the real world but with some weird creatures inhabiting it in addition to the regular animals, feels like an entirely different beast to the current Pokemon setting, where it's basically just high fantasy.
>and they're two different creatures?
They still are though.
Nah, I think it kind of cheapens the universe's lore. Plus animals would have no way to survive in an environment with a bunch of other wild creatures that have magical powers and seem to be much smarter than them.
>Plus animals would have no way to survive in an environment with a bunch of other wild creatures that have magical powers and seem to be much smarter than them
Replace 'magical powers' with technology and you have humans. It's not like Pokemon would automatically render every single animal species extinct by virtue of being more dominant on the food chain, that's not how ecology works
It's not just the food chain, they'd be competing with Pokemon FOR food and territory too.
>it's not just food, they'd be competing for food
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i don't think that literally every current living animal would be able to survive on poke-earth, but there's no reason why pokemon would dominate real life animals so thoroughly they would all be driven to extinction. it's not like a lot of real life carnivores couldn't adapt to a diet of weedle or pidgey or something, too
it also helps that poke-earth doesn't seem to indulge in mass scale habitat destruction like ours does
These are Pokemon, powerful creatures with magic powers. Even a Caterpie or Weedle can tie up and immobilize a regular non-powered animal with String Shot. Even a Pidgey can generate windstorms.
>can tie up and immobilize a regular non-powered animal with String Shot
that's not even what string shot does, it slows you down. pidgey can't generate 'windstorms', it's dex entry even says what it usually does in the wild is kick sand into other animal's faces. smarter than regular birds? sure. so impossible a real life animal couldn't reliably hunt them? no lol
are you just room temperature IQ? you've said two incredibly moronic things so far
String Shot can do this, and Pidgey learns moves like Gust, Air Slash, and Hurricane, AKA moves that involve it using its air/wind manipulation powers.
>trannime
>conflating what a highly trained pidgey can do with a random level 3 you find in Shitter Forest #68947998
I'm speaking with a powerlevel gay aren't I
I would bring up how lance's dragonite using hyper beam failed to kill a normal person or all the plot armor but I know that doesn't work on morons like you
Go make another goku vs every pokemon thread
Wild Pokemon can learn all the same moves as trained ones.
And people can break bricks with bare hands.
Yes. It separates the smart pokemon from the dumb, makes for a more believable ecosystem, and makes training and battling an actual feat since not every pokemons wild life would be based around fighting other pokemon/regular animal trainers would make them look even stronger in comparison.
You eventually get to a point where it just doesn't make sense for real world animals to exist in this world. It worked when there were only 151 species of Pokemon, now that there's nearly 1000 species and counting, animals don't have a place in the Pokemon world. Anything animals can do can be done (and better) by Pokemon.
What do humans eat?
Pokemon? The series makes it very clear that humans eat Pokemon the same way humans in the real world eat animals.
They eat pokemon. Basculin's pokedex entries often talk about how delicious it is.
Pokemon, explicitly.
There's 9 million species of animals, Anon. 1000 is nothing.
Yes, but with powers a single pokemon can easily fulfill the ecological niche of thousands of species
You need an aquatic organism, a water pokemon can live in salt water, fresh water, brackish water, radioactive waste or even in an ethereal sea. (Just watch the Gyarados swim and fly wherever they want)
They need an apex predator, you can choose any carnivorous Pokemon and in just a couple of days all the normal fauna will be extinct, that generates an imbalance, no problem just use a Guzzlord and reset everything.
In a world where a creature can fart and restore life, our fauna, including microbiota is unnecessary, everything can happen or be compensated with "magic"
This, even when there were only 151 Pokemon, practically covered any function of normal animals and even more.
Muh pollination, boom with a bug-type* move a beedril did the millions of bees in just seconds.
My reforestation, boom, a grass-type* move from a Venusaur restored an entire forest.
My climate change, boom a good kick in the ass to the three legendary birds fixes everything
This doesn't make sense, boom Mewtwo alters reality, nothing makes sense little nihilist
Now you want variety, each Pokemon has hundreds of variations, sub species, and conditions, just for practical reasons they won't show you all of them.
*What move? Let the writers get it out of his ass
Plant-based Pokemon are more animal than plant. They aren't rooted to the ground and eat actual food instead of relying solely on photosynthesis. They serve a completely different purpose than actual plants.
So does that mean everyone is okay with dogfighting and stuff like it because how would you distinguish from animals and pokemon in universe. I really don't think the Pokémon universe makes sense when you think about it for more than 5 seconds so why even bother with animals
Pokemon battles are non-lethal because the Pokemon are intelligent enough to hold back enough not to seriously hurt each other. Animals don't have that kind of intelligence.
The focus of the series is Pokémon. Even back in the earliest of lore that still had real critters the focus was mostly on the Pokémon. Indeed, the Pokémon pretty much more or less take over their place, albeit in a fantastical manner. Real critters wouldn't really mesh with the world they built so I think it was a good decision to take them out.
Another thing to consider is that Pokémon are constructed to be seen as friendly and according to Masuda, Turner and Sugimori every Pokémon should be viewed as a creature you can be friends with. It's a stroke of genius here because people love animals and tying the concept of a Pokémon with what a critter is gives Pokémon a sense of familiarity and something people can see as the familiar. Even if Pokémon are fantastical this grounds them as a familiar concept people can resonate with and I think it plays a big part in what gives Pokémon an edge over other franchises especially combined with Pokémon more friendly and approachable designs.
Yes
the whole universe get super moronic if people kill pokemon to eat them
Won't even talk about the whole cannibalism stuff with pokemon who can communicate and breed with each other eating each other
Animals should have been kept as inferior beings who exist only to be food for superior beings (humans and pokemon)
Kinda like what they are in our reality
>Won't even talk about the whole cannibalism stuff with pokemon who can communicate and breed with each other eating each other
Why would this be an issue? Cannibalism is quite common in nature.
Yeah you idiot, with moronic real life animals, not Pokemon who have near-human intelligence and levels of communication
The only reason cannibalism isn't more common among humans is that it spreads disease, so we evolved to be repulsed by it.
And despite that, many cultures still practiced it right up until they realized it was killing them.
Yes, but only as mostly domesticated creatures and livestock since Pokémon would most likely out perform them with natural selection otherwise. If it makes you feel any better, take my headcanon: Normal-type Pokémon protect non-Pokémon wildlife.
>Do you think Pokemon should've remained a world where animals exist alongside Pokemon
Yes. Humans being the only animals that exist makes no sense.
Yes, because we don't want to eat Pokémon.
Made more sense when animals were food instead of pokemon and trainers whipped their pokemon I appreciated PLA cause people were scared of pokemon again instead of worshipping them like they have a mind worm
I'm pretty sure the original lore was that Pokemon were basically mutant animals and that makes more sense, honestly.
How can Pikachu be "the mouse Pokemon" if mice don't exist?
"Mouse" is the word used to describe Pokemon with certain characteristics, like how it's used to describe animals with certain characteristics in the real world. Mice as we know don't have to exist for the Pokemon world to have the same word for its own similar creatures.
Yes and being an adult is realising that blacks are not human
>Do you think Pokemon should've remained a world where animals exist alongside Pokemon
Honestly yes. Pokemon were potrayed as rare or not seen often by regular folks. Truly terrifying monsters that were nearly sapient instead animals/pets. The fact that pokemon are eaten is rather distrubing, at the very least regular animals should been around just for that purpose.
Did they ever explain why electrode and the pokeballs are the same design? I know why from the old school rpg perspective but I mean from a lore perspective
Voltorb and Electrode evolved to trick humans and prey into thinking they are pokeballs so they can explode.