Do you think the current GW Design Studio staff are ever... embarrassed of their efforts?
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I think that they intentionally do this to appeal to people who aren't good at painting
I imagine it would be pretty demoralizing to be outdone by literally every photo of the models
I'm awful at painting and I like to see nice painted box art as inspiration for how to do it propperly even if I don't get the results.
>I'm awful at painting and I like to see nice painted box art as inspiration for how to do it propperly even if I don't get the results.
The box art usually is nice. The example in the OP was just something some guys did.
>demoralizing
Modern apes getting filtered by box art.
Back when I was growing up it was inspirational and encouraged you to read up painting guides and blogs.
Old timey box art photos had dogshit paintjobs. I could replicate them on my first try.
Post models.
Not everyone thinks the way that you do.
Back when you were growing up, boxes had extremely attainable paintjobs.
He was growing up with total war warhammer, his father was growing up with what you posted.
I Look at that and think, "I could paint it better"
Painting standards were lower then though. No airbrushes, none of the fancy paints we have now and guides were much harder to come by. That boxart is probably close to Golden Daemon standard for the time.
>That boxart is probably close to Golden Daemon standard for the time.
I wouldn't say that, having seen some of the old stuff in-person at Foundry Miniatures, it's surprising how crisp the paintjobs are, even with age and the limited acrylic paints of the time. (not my pic but an example)
Older photography and magazine printing methods don't help either.
Older gw models were so much cooler wow
It just looks more fantastical. Too much obsession with muh realism. Also now you're paying 50 bucks for 1 model so it's a cost sinks whereas in the old days 50 bucks would buy you an army
50 bucks still buy you an army if you play the right games.
Name 1
>those models
WHY is everything so fricking gay and corporate now?
Better times. But that's because young people don't play these games so they aren't marketing to kids like when we got into it. Now it's for no life funkpop collectors who are happily spending 10x as much for less
>extremely attainable paintjobs.
It was attainable if you knew what you were doing, but there was a real paucity of good info on painting minis until the late 2000s. If you were lucky, there was a guy at your LGS who knew his shit and would try to answer your questions
as a business, I'd imagine the last thing you'd want is to "filter" customer out of your product.
as per the OP it's not a fair comparison. not paint-wise. you have on one hand the eavy-metal team spending hundreds of hours per model, on the other you have models painted by non professional in probably an afternoon.
comparing them sculpt wise... yeah the old one absolutely demolish the newer sculpts.
I really dislike them: they look incredibly "digital" and remind me of mantic models. I can't shake the feeling that these were originally designed in 2011 or something and we're just getting them now.
This applies to the storefront terrain too. A few years back I was asked to do up a new board for them to display and I was explicitly told to make it as simple as possible so as not to intimidate the newcomers.
Basically had to glue a plastic kit onto an old realm of battle board and slap on 20 bottles of Agrellan earth then prime, wash and stick on some GW grass tufts.
No foam cut hills, rocks, extra greebles, nor scatter to make the board more organic. Just dirt and plastic buildings.
They used to do simpler paint jobs that look better. They used to just recommend a couple of paints to achieve a simple but effective look. They now tell you to buy six hundred paints to do careful layering for hours that looks like dogshit.
Also the deeper green ork skintone looks better.
The most agregious part is the unnecessary base size creep
>unnecessary
the loota in the picture literally doesn't fit on it's base
Yes, this is intentional, and makes the model feel larger than it is. This isn't rocket science.
right IS a better paint job, the sculpt is kinda meh and the fleshtone chosen is just nasty. Nurgle has touched that ork.
More effort put in does not mean better. It just took more time for an ugly result.
If it looks worse it's not better. Simple as.
TOW will fail because its fanbase is mostly composed of annoying morons.
No... No, I don't think they are
apart from the fact that GWs studio painters absolutely refuse to paint eyebrows, what is wrong with any of these sculpts?
Ugly
Dwarf women are supposed to look a bit like that (hairstyle choices aside). The Cadian Trunchbowl is a problem though. You aren't going to get women interested in the hobby without at least decently attractive female characters for them to vibe with.
>what is wrong with any of these sculpts?
They're female in a male dominated setting.
>B-but attracting women!
Women are not attracted to grim darkness settings, this appeals to no one.
Obsession with snarling. Seriously, snarling women is the new sidecut. The men can be stoic or shouting or whatever. All woman must be angry, preferably snarling. Sick of it and I wont buy any.
You cannot be this moronic.
What's wrong? They look like shit.
The fact that they're apparently meant to be women just makes it even more apparent.
Well, for one, the human female on the right has terrible proportions.
Not sure, some of the guys in there made iconic models years ago and now produce utter shit. I think it's just corporate interference and a lack of passion.
I sure as frick hope they are.
No sovl.
these are both terrible. makes me glad i play age of sigmar and 40k because the square based guys clearly have never looked good and never will look good
Probably not, but I think the bottom row red knight's painter probably feels shame for being mogged.
Make too much money from their paypigs to care I think.
yes they do because they have very little time to actually paint them up, and its not actually their job to paint the models its their job to get articles written up and stuff.
I dont have to lie and say their paintjobs are good but i mean its kind of commendable that theyre atleast putting this stuff out. While GW should be a better managed company and have a MUCH higher budget, they simply dont pay their staff well
Why is that one knight Vietnam
Is anyone going to actually use the foot knights?
Sword/board ones get mogged by the men at arms who cost half as much and get shieldwall, horde, and stubborn from the triptych.
The great weapon ones will get mowed down before they land any strikes.GW infantry in general seem really gay unless there's some gimmick like full plate(empire greatswords) or ASF(helf swordmasters).
im going to use them because i think the models are cool.
ruleswise they seem pretty shit.
They have furious charge.
They have furious charge and the initiative bonus from doing so will put them up to I4 with GW, which is more than enough to hit first against most non-elves.
S5 -2AP with 2 attacks is pretty good for that price point. That said, Brett's B&B is always going to be their hilariously undercosted Mounted Units. Grail Knights are especially undercosted compared to what they can do. But Foot Knights are an excellent flanking infantry block to slam into a unit that's just dicovered how insanely optimised Men at Arms are now, and are bogged down.
GW is getting what they pay for. Their current crop of painters is paid less then the ones before.They're cheaper. Cause they aren't as good.
I like the new Stormcasts.
Idealized golden masks, or whatever the frick it is they're wearing is kind of kino, shan't lie.
I have to say, I actually like the top 3 from the right. The rest look a little off to me though. I'm not entirely sure what it is, but it may come from the fact that GW's modern CAD team has probably never opened a historical Osprey book in their lives, let alone seen a real suit of armour worn by a human being so it looks like it belongs in World of Warhammer. For what it's worth, I'll attach a pic of one of my knights, an original Perry Bros sculpt you can get from Wargames Foundry so that /tg/ can call me shit while not posting any models. Oh, and still not buying anything from GW.
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I'm sorry, what? I thought this was a free website?