do zoomers know about the towel trick?
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do zoomers know about the towel trick?
do zoomers know about the towel trick?
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why would you and they care about it?
why would zoomers care about 1st gen 360 problems?
moron moment
zoomers are up to 26 years old now and make up the majority of this website
zoomers that old don't give a shit about 360
What are you talking about? The 25+ zoomers would have been 10 in 2006, prime first console as a gift age for the 360’s release. I’m 26 and my first consoles were a GameCube and Xbox my older brothers bought and my first gaming experiences were on an N64 at a local daycare.
Older siblings kinda frick the generational culture thing. I find it harder to relate to people my age who were either the oldest or only child because they were always watching age appropriate material growing up while I was watching whatever my brothers who were 5-7 years older than me watched.
Xbox 360 wasn't for kids and they would have had a wii instead and that's ignoring how many poor kids would have had previous gen consoles
xbox live for m-rated games was 50% screeching 12 year olds don't kid yourself
>2007-13
I don't think you can math good
12 year olds in 2005-2013 are 22-30 years old now
that's late millenial / early gen Z
26 zoomer here, my first console was the PS1 that I had to have up until I bought a ds lite with my own money, the third console I got was the PS2 back when the ps3 was already around.
Yes, my family was rather poor back in the day, thank goodness I could get proper studies and am in the brink of earning a proper salary (by my country's standards anyways)
>and make up the majority of this website
I wish
>I just barely escaped Zoomerdom
Thank God.
Even worse, you're a millennial
>97'
You wish homosexual, zoomers are 2000 and after
its 97 and i was born in 97, feels very weird being right at the border
A few years ago it was 2000, then it was 99, now if you check Google it will say 97 or 96, give it a few more years and it'll be the late 80's. Zoomers want so badly to be Millennials for some reason.
>Zoomers want so badly to be Millennials for some reason.
would you wana be part of that group? i’ve never met a zoomers that’s proud to be a zoomer they’ll be the ignored generation in 70 years
only reason why i think its 97 is cause the reason millenials and zoomers are different culturally is because zoomers grew up with the internet whereas millenials got it as teenagers for the most part
improved version
>Zoomers want so badly to be Millennials for some reason.
Lol
>A few years ago it was 2000
The Wayback Machine page for Generation Z on Wikipedia in 2012 has said the year that it begins could be at least the early to mid 90s so no, it was not a recent thing. Thing about generations is that they're made up and everyone has their own opinion on when they begin.
https://web.archive.org/web/20120121054310/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z
Also I do not want to be a millennial lmao, I don't know what you're talking about
For a zoomer 2012 may seem old, but 2005 when they were calling them Gen Z is the first I heard of it, and they keep moving it back every 3-4 years or so. They just keep getting older.
The gauge I use is, if you remember 9/11, you're a millennial. If not, you're a zoomer.
Some zoomers born in 1996-1997 remember 9/11 though.
>you're never too young to have a Vietnam War flashback
Zoomer replaced summergay as Ganker's average buzzword and yet they're both just boogeymen. I can guarantee that that people born around 98-00 started coming onto this site around 2012-2014.
summergays still exist, a large portion of them are gen alpha now
I can't take zoomer seriously as an insult considering millennial culture is what basedjaks originated to mock
I wasn't lying when I said boogeymen. Moot said himself that the traffic increased maybe a little bit but not much.
>Generation last 20 years
>All of sudden stops in 1997
Yeah, bullshit.
>all of a sudden
Gen X lasted 15 years, Gen Y lasted 15 years. Did you even make it out of elementary/primary?
So Gen Alpha would start in like 2010
2013-2028. So far time only moves in one direction, on one dimension.
It's 2010-2024. They're the iPad generation.
by that book author's definition yeah, but it's had a mixed definition with all the damn sources from wikipedia. I get what the author was trying to describe but I feel like it should have that 15 year block for every generation.
>so hard in denial about what the generation time-spans have been defined as for decades
>ends up denying reality himself
Post three similar graphs with sources if you're so great
Yeah roughly - that would have been the period when the earliest millennials would be settling down and starting families.
>look at this seethe graph I made to prove reality wrong
26 is not a zoomer tho? isn't that like 1997?
No wonder the site has gone to gay dogshit
I've literally never seen the towel trick work.
>I've literally never seen the towel trick work.
As
said it actually did work because by overheating it you resoldered the part that had gotten loose, it was a temporary solution though. Never heard of anyone doing this and then not having it break again later
moron. Cold solder joints are only a problem in a very slim amount of cases. Older GPU's in particular were not designed to handle heat like they are today. The towel trick, or any other trick that uses the GPU's own heat, isn't fixing the chips by resoldering the connection. In cases where it is a cold solder joint that snapped, the heat causes the board to flex in a way that restores the connection temporarily, but isn't actually fixing the adhesion issue.
However, in other circumstances, the actual silicon is the problem. The heat causes a change in the structure of the silicon in hopes of restoring function. You can think of it like marbles in a small container. If they land in just the right spot, they seize up and can no longer move.
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Oven/hairdryer tricks didn't actually reflow the solder, it didnt get hot enough. Chances are it just temprarily expanded the metal so it would make contact again
it worked for me for like 30 minutes then it died again and after second try it was totally grilled
Worked for literal months on mine.
Worked for my PS3 enough to do a system transfer to a new one. Got grilled for it but no way I'm bothering keeping a dying console on life support.
It worked in many cases, but only temporarily. Often as soon as you shut off the console and let it cool the problem would return, and generally the trick would only work a few times before the damage too severe.
The switch to lead-free solder meant the solder points were not as durable as expected. Normal heating and cooling over time would cause the solder to expand and contract, eventually causing the connection(s) to fail.
Overheating the console with a towel would cause the solder to soften and expand, temporarily repairing the connection.
It worked temporarily for me, only about a day or two. The second time I tried it it only lasted several hours.
zoomers just open up the case and fix the glue? There are tons of youtube tutorials, you have no excuse
>zoomers just open up the case and fix the glue
The problem is caused by microfractures in the solder due to the high TDP of the graphics chip. You don't fix it with glue, you have to reflow the entire thing.
bro, that's two generations ago
sorry I wasn't a homosexual so I got a PS3 for Christmas
>sorry I wasn't a homosexual so I got a PS3 for Christmas
So when are you going to get games for it?
How did the hot monkey dick feel?
It's genuinely impressive how much e-waste ROHS caused in the mid 2000s from sperging out over lead solder.
I tried that and it didnt work
you need to put it in rice
also piss on it
It worked as it melted and re soldered the chip board
I just unplugged mine and it was completely fine afterwards, no idea why that worked
this usually just means something isnt plugged in properly, if you jiggle the power cords you can see RROD for a split second. perma RROD is a bit different
yeah and this worked and i never figured out why
well i do now because i looked it up and holy shit are people actually that stupid?
zoomers grew up with wiis
Unironically how did this worked? Why did the towel actually fixed it?
this guy explains it
dumb ESL
iirc RRoD was apparently caused by shitty soldering that would melt over time. so wrapping it up would cause more heat to hopefully remelt the solder in a way that would make it work as normal
it was cold
That's a cool technique, but b***hes dont know about the hair dryer box trick.
Oh for a sec I thought it was a microphone
its beyond insane to me that sony and microsoft straight up knowingly sold defective consoles for an entire generation and got away with it
More than knowingly, they didn't expect shit to be that bad, basically the main issue was the change from lead to tin for soldering because regulations, that summed up with incredible bad cooling systems on, at least, the X360 led that the solder joints cracked and poped all around, nowadays this isn't an issue, but back in the day tin soldering was pretty novel.
I used copper coins to create new heatsinks. Worked for a while longer before it finally died.
do zoomers know the toothpaste hack?
this trick is based as frick, i got a totaly fricked up gta4 dvd for free back then, did this, installed it on hdd and it runs to this day perfectly
That was the best thing about the "install game "feature on 360, Any disc as long as you had a copy no matter how fricked it was you could still play it as long as you manage to install it.
Wasn't this trick fixing different issues than people thought? Like everyone swore up and down it was a "scratch fix" but motherfrickers didn't realize that if your discs were scratched it meant they were also probably dirty as frick. It was more just cleaning the dirt and allowed for proper reading and didn't actually fix scratches.
abhorrent post
Great insight
I still don't believe in the toothpaste trick, like I literally do not understand how fricking toothpaste helps a disc become readable and how it doesn't frick the insides of the console. Shit scares my brain.
I'm guessing the toothpaste acts as an abrasive and removes a layer of plastic up to the depth of the scratch. Obviously the protective layer is going to be very slightly thinner, but as long as the laser is no longer blocked from reading the information it doesn't matter.
Toothpaste is full of game code. If you have scratches on your disc the paste replaces the missing written code.
They probably don't know the banana trick either lol
I put my PS3 into a oven to fix the YLOD and shit solder.
>75▶
>I put my PS3 into a oven to fix the YLOD and s
did that to mine as well...
but forgot to take out the 'clock' battery ? i guess,
and i had a nice little explosion in my gas oven after a while...
ive literally never had RRoD and i had one of the early ones. What caused them?
Fat ameridumbs shoving them in a shelf with no air circulation leading to overheating
literally just a fricky-wucky by TSMC
they changed the composition of the solder for the CPU chips, but the new composition had a lower thermal ceiling due to the lead they put in it
you're moronic
>let's save this console from overheating by overheating it
>Console overheats and disconnects solder
>re-overheat the console to reconnect solder
>???
>profit
No, our consoles actually work
Zoomers will never experience GTA IV killing all of you and your friends Xbox 360s, and being sent a cardboard coffin from Microsoft while you waited a month for them to just send you a brand new 360 with your old hard drive in it for free.
How nice of you to make your xbox comfortable in his last moments with a warm blanket
Xboxgays will do this shit and have the gall to say the 360 won the console wars.
Xboxgays will tell you how they're on their 3rd console because their previous 2 bricked and they had to send them back but Microsoft refused to cover them under warranty like it was no big deal.
I will never understand this shit.
These homies were playing on COMPOSITE CABLES, this fricking shit didn't have digital output when it came out. They're delusional.
remember the hd-dvd addon that people bought?
Nope! (Yes)
still remember the "beta-ray" memes from xbox fanboys.
Borderline zoomer and the towel trick saved my 360 long enough for me to blitz through both Halo 3 and Fable 3 on a 2nd-hand console. Then eBay refunded me after I sent it back. Seller was seething. Almost kinda glad it happened as I just got a cheap 4GB Slim and didn't have to worry about buying a WiFi adapter or HDD
I wanted to get a bunch of HD-DVDs for the hell of it, but apparently they were not only a dead format but also badly made and as a consequence are prone to getting disc-rot. I forget which studio (think it was Universal?) but basically all of the discs from that studio were very likely to have it happen.
>If I cut out A, B, G, H, O, P, Q, X, Y, Z and parts of F, I, N and R it looks like it has no games LMAO
No it didn't, it made the system so hot that the built-in mechanism to stop it toasting itself stopped working. So you were making the problem so bad the "failsafe" failed
It was a workaround for teens and stoners 2bh
The PS3 YLOD has been memory holed surprisingly well, even though people still gush about muh backwards compatibility. Yeah BC on a console with a 50% failure rate before the gen was even finished. Hope you enjoy getting a replacement that can't even run the BC games any more.
RRoD was more common than YLOD, think it was 55% failure rate vs 45% last I checked around 2012. Meanwhile the Wii just worked (think it was around 4%).
>snoy still seething 17 years later
kek
Xbox players had to take a couple month-long breaks from playing games. PS players waited seven years
>the ps3 had no games
>meanwhile
heres your xbox exclusives bro
my eyes are bleeding from seeing so many classic video games
it's called soul
>Xboxgays will do this shit and have the gall to say the 360 won the console wars
because it did even with RRoD. the ps3 was to sony what the xbox one was to microsoft. the biggest of dropped balls
The PS3 outsold the 360 by the end of the generation
>because it did even with RRoD. the ps3 was to sony what the xbox one was to microsoft. the biggest of dropped balls
Sold less consoles.
Had less exclusives.
Used outdated DVD mechanic.
No HDD on all versions.
Paid multiplayer.
Where is the win my dude?
The 360 actually had games so of course it won
Shhh, Xbox is sleeping
im getting ptsd flashbacks
>i dont feel so good dudebros...*cough*.... *cough*
>can you make me some chicken soup? *cough*
Zoomers make 4chuds seethe just by existing
hows everyone doing on this /comfy/ december weekend?
Zoomers wouldn't know the first thing about repairing or maintaining their equipment, they just have a go-to reflex to buy another brand new thing
It's called the Xbox 360 because you wrap the towel 360 degrees around the console
What did this accomplish? I imagine it caused it to overheat, but why did that fix the issue? I never had a 360 or any of the 7th gen consoles.
it temporarily cooled the system down
but ultimately made the issue worse since the gpu chip was frying and cracking itself
too bad there was no actual good games that console gen
>it temporarily cooled the system down
By restricting all of its airflow?
>Anon used COOLING TOWEL...
>It's super effective!
>Restricted airflow made the Xbox 360 cool down!
>What's that? Anon is evolving! ... Anon evolved into Based moron!
>What did this accomplish?
Re soldering BGA solder with the heat of the processor. Similar idea to baking GPU in teh oven.
>my console is broken from overheating.... I KNOW!
fricking morons
I got my 360 in 2008 and literally never had a red ring. I also never never placed it vertically if that makes a difference. I don't really understand why people did that in the first place because that just made it more inconvenient and less stable
Red ring was the 2006 360s
Considering warranty is no longer a thing for them, opening up the case and reapplying thermal paste tends to have better results.
>1. Wrap the xbox in a towel
>2. Rid the world of another agent of satan
Or how to restore a scratched disc with toothpaste
I had a Wii.
I remember I wanted to watch Hairspray (the remake) on DVD but my shit was red ringed, I ended up learning about this trick and got to watch it. It actually worked for a little while longer after that.
>I wanted to watch Hairspray (the remake)
>john travolta in drag
frick you for reminding me this shit exists
Did mine "properly" and threw it into an oven with more sensitive areas covered. Sold the thing later and heard that it apparently still worked after a couple of years. Letting it steam itself under a blanket seemed like a stupid caveman club tier solution to the problem to be honest.
How old were you? My parents would not have let me try that back then.
It's not a trick. You're just making things worse. Fricking change the thermal paste and add cooling pads.
the one about the pjuice?
The 360 had all these problems and yet it still was successful because it actually had games.
I always loved this one
My 360 never had any issues and still worked the last time I used it in 2013 for GTA5. My launch PS3 died in 2011 when playing Skyrim.
interesting. then that must mean that the ps3 had a higher rate of failure than the xbox 360. thanks for the information
No I just got unlucky.
sleep tight xboxer
I didn't get an Xbox 360 until Christmas 2008. I got the Wii and the PS3 the day they came out in EU. We don't take kindly to Xbox around here.
Do they know about the "contact microsoft and get a new xbox shipped to you" trick?
life is too short to wait 3 months for a replacement to get shipped
>my 360 RRod after warranty
>it's happening so much they extend the warranties
>send mine in and get one back
>tell myself give this 360 a shit load of room to breath
>RRoD happens again
>call them to tell them that I want it fixed
>they want to charge me $100 to fix it
Little kid me was so fricking mad that day.
>be me but younger
>get xbox
>it gets RRoD after a year or so
>call Microsoft
>"Yeah, just ship it to us and we'll fix it, no charge"
>pack up xbox and send it away
>it comes back a few weeks later
>works fine
>2 days later
>turn on xbox
>RRoD occurs
>call microsoft
>"For the cost of just buying one of these used, we'll pretend to fix it for you."
>throw xbox in trash and buy PS3
>PS3 still works to this day
Yeah you put a towel on your back so the dog doesn't scratch you up while he's fricking you, doesn't everyone know this?
Do you morons actually think that wrapping the console in a towel gets it hot enough to melt solder? Does no one here understand the concept of thermal expansion? The frick is wrong with you.
american morons as usual
didn't draw the american fat enough
spend your timezone toweling the x360
i mean, it got hot enough to melt solder in the first place thats the entire fricking problem with rrod
No it got hot enough to oxidize the solder ruining the integrity of the material. You have no fricking clue what you are talking about.
dont care didnt ask worked on my machine.
go be a STEMcel somewhere else
Then why did it work?
It likely melted another component like BGA or something
Right there in the original post, thermal expansion. Every time solder gets heated and then cooled it introduces warping, just like the road. If you heat it enough some of those warps can fix themselves, but it's only temporary.
This video explains it pretty well. https://youtu.be/Za7WTNwAX0c?si=QyjI428AZ9dKNBDH&t=2882
That's the exact opposite of 'fixing it' bro
thermal expansion of a cracked solder will only increase the crack.
You seem to be assuming that the towel trick didn't work at all.
There are more problems then just cracks.
Do you always weigh in with your "expert opinion" on shit you don't understand?
I got the red ring but it would randomly work sometimes. Then after a while of it going between working and not working it ran perfectly for months then finally it happened again playing Black Ops and never recovered. Ended up switching to PC gaming after that and never owned another console again.
I dunno op, do millennials know how to change a tire?
No and they never watched Billy and Mandy either.
And they never will.
As a zoomer, there's nothing zoomers can't find out about. I know multiple vidya facts from throughout the ages and a lot of Ganker's own culture. Multiple anons take me for an oldgay but all it takes is a little research and not exposing myself as a newbie. You can call me out now but i'll blend in the next time we meet
>As a zoomer, there's nothing zoomers can't find out about
Skub
NTA, but that's on 1dGanker and and i'm sure it's on ED
Hot Cross Buns
homie don’t act so frickin gay tho
zoomers don't give a shit about the xbox
Zoomer here. Yeah I know about it. Even had to use it a few times. Who asked?
I never got the red ring of death and I played the shit out of my 360 everyday
>morons would actually bake their consoles instead of RMAing them
yeah I remember, console Black folk were never smart
>Why didn't you just return the console you had been playing on for 30 months?
Stupid zoomer.
I just paid someone like 30 bucks to re-solder my shit.
Got one ring of death. They fixed it but after that it stopped reading discs in 2017 or so. Served me well but I’m still considering getting a new one
>the 4 red light ring error was easier to fix than the 3 red light one
This whole console was a disasterclass
I didn't have a broke ass 360 to begin with
You are the gay that is aproooooooooaching
PROVOOOOOOOKING
This was the first generation I felt they really cheaped out on console manufacturing. Both my Wii and Xbox 360 needed repairs. Meanwhile my launch GameCube still works fine today, and my SNES and Genesis work fine if you jiggle the cord.
>Microsoft paid for postage and sent me a new one for free.
Towel trick worked a few hours but went back to rrod.
why are Ganker-tards so obsessed with zoomers? is it because zoomers are young and they aren't anymore?
Zoomers are the first generation that grew up with always-online HD slop. They're completely unmoored from what gaming was like before so obviously their tastes and opinions are cancer.
>always-online HD slop.
?
I'm a zoomer and I grew up playing PS1/PS2/Gamecube/360 tbh tbh tbh
>scratch disc
>unreadable
>rub toothpaste on it
>fixes it
huh?
Early tech tips were like ancient herbalist solutions that still worked somehow