no need, my LG oled G3 has 5 years total warranty and 7 years on screen alone, immediate replacement at home with no extra charge. I have been using it daily for almost a year and it's as perfect as right out of the box
That isn't burn in, it's gray uniformity. I shouldn't have listened to all the articles and redditors who said "bro, you just gotta break it in, bro, it will go away on it's own, bro please believe me". Guess what, 3 years later and it fricking didn't.
Yep, recently started playing Fatal Frame 2 on my OLED deck (dark game with a lot of grays) and it looks like FRICKING SHIT.
Frick OLED cultists, at least be honest about the drawbacks the technology you're bandwagoning has.
Its just the classic shitskin cope
You see they got memed into buying VA or TN in 2023 (im not joking they actually are that moronic) and now they're tryong to pull some outstanding mental gymnastics to justify their stupidity
>TCL announced that one line in its Guangzhou production facility is investing in IJP OLEDs and suggested we could see IJP OLEDs on the market in 2024/2025.
This year or next year.
I don't get mad, but I sratch my head a little. I mean, why would you spend so much money in this when the subpixel layout is absolutely moronic? The color fringing near every single letter and text is ridiculous. It's like a permanent defect that can never be fixed.
you can't see it with cleartype
I had perfect vision last time I went for a check up with optometrist or whatever the frick they're called and I can't see the fringing
I fell for the meme and bought an IPS and it had the defects so I sent it back. Then I bought a 1440p 144hz TN and was amazed at how good it was. Been happily using that for like 7 years now, so please don't listen to the homosexuals who say TN is bad.
His VA was trash, black smeared across the screen at higher hz and it had a weird colourshift in the centre of the screen, like viewing angle problems when you are looking dead at it, I don't know if thats just VA or because it was curved.
>How do movies look on it?
i mean its ok, its def not oled good or anything, but the contrast ratio is def more noticeable than TN especially in "dark mode" environments
I'm in need of a new monitor, nothing fancy. should I go with the LG UltraGear or AOC Hero? after doing research it seems these are the two that fit my needs and budget the best
>Buy OLED >Get burn in after 2 years of use
We're getting scammed with these new "technologies". I wish programmed obsolescence was punished with death. Return to monke (communist made bulbs)
It won't, because the elements naturally deteriorate at a fast rate, you can only use workaround bullshit that are bandaid fixes at best.
My 10 year old IPS performs the same as I bought it. OLEDs become unusable after 3-4 years of intense use.
Copium is pretending they don't.
It's literally the biggest drawback of the tech and nobody even tries to deny it apart from coping homosexuals like you.
>THIS BRAND BAD >literally uses the exact same panels from the exact same factory as the brand you shill
Every fricking time.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Correct, ASUS is bad. If I'm going to buy expensive shit I'd sooner buy from Gigabyte than them.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>missing the point
Utter fricking moron.
5 months ago
Anonymous
What point? Chinkshit is chinkshit. There's a time and place for chinkshit but if you're going to buy a screen get it from a reputable brand.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>What point?
The point that the PANEL aka the ACTUAL FRICKING DISPLAY THINGY is not manufacturered by them, it comes from the same factory as whatever brand you are shilling.
Even if they use the same panels different brands have different quality control and warranty e.g. Lenovo doesn't even recognize BLB or IPS glow as defect.
Doesn't matter if you live in an actual first world country that allows returning electronics within 2 weeks no question asked and mandatory 2 year warranty.
5 months ago
Anonymous
That's nice dear but I'd rather get a panel directly from LG than some reject panel fitted into some chink gaymer monitor.
My B2 still has no burn in, works on my tv.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>these panels don't suffer from the inherent weakenss the tech has and is physically incapable of overcoming, beacause this brand is a god to me
Ok, consooomer drone.
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's been almost 3 years and I don't have any burn in. Why you seething so badly? >tech has... le downside
okay? I'm still within warranty period if it does frick up and will be for another 4
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I don't notice these defects because my eyes can't see more than 24 frames, so these defects don't exist
Ok blind moron.yw
5 months ago
Anonymous
Nah they don't exist lol
no burn in, sorry mate
5 months ago
Anonymous
Which kind of TV do you recommend?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>TV
No TV at all.
A good 1440p 144+Hz IPS monitor
5 months ago
Anonymous
IPSnigs will talk shit about defects showing up after a few years of use and then be like nah I don't see a problem here with shit like pic related
5 months ago
Anonymous
Turn the brightness down from 100%. OLED can't show full brightness on fullscreen so don't give me shit about how you don't want to.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Do morons really set the brightness to 100?
Also turn the damn lights off.
Even OLEDs get fricked in bright rooms.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>akshually IPS contrast and glow only looks like shit in a dim room >akshually it looks like shit in a bright room
Pick a narrative and stick to it homosexual
5 months ago
Anonymous
Based moron, unlike you I know that each display tech has flaws. Just pick your poison.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>issues that get exaggerated by the camera due to it being polarized light
Ok moron.
Cameras are not eyes.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>allows returning electronics within 2 weeks no question asked and mandatory 2 year warranty.
Yea I know that this is why some suggest just to buy a monitor multiple times and keep the one with least errors. The difference here is that it is easier to get a good one from a brand that has good quality control in place. Some claim here that ASUS is bad in this regard but I cannot confirm this myself so take it with a grain of salt. The two years 2 warranty only work if the manufacturer sees it as defect but both BLB and IPS Glow are usually something you can see from the very beginning.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Even if they use the same panels different brands have different quality control and warranty e.g. Lenovo doesn't even recognize BLB or IPS glow as defect.
My friend used oled tvs as his computer monitor, despite his best efforts he couldn't stop burn in, so he just sold them when they started to get artifacts and bought a new one.
Flat panels no matter the type are like fast food. You're not paying for quality, you're paying for convenience. Fat tube monitors were heavy, but they are still superior to the shit they sell now.
The only way this analogy would hold up is if it was impossible to get fresh healthy food in the modern day (which is crts made in 2023) which isn't the case. You are right though
I just discovered yesterday my screen has those smudges. And It's not even a year old. They're barely visible and they aren't in the way but it still pisses me off
You physically, literally, by definition, will have burn-in eventually if you are using an OLED monitor.
It might not be now, or in a months time, or in a years time, but you will get it.
And then you can just buy another OLED monitor and keep going
I don't care because I can bark orders at my TV to make stuff in my house work which is based. I literally tell me tv to make me a cup of coffee and it just happens like magic.
Why can't PC monitors into local dimming?
My TV is an LCD but thanks to local dimming it's able to achieve very high contrast in dark scene, without having the risk of burn in from OLED.
Why are you gays buying gear thats just bad? We have the internet now, where ultra elite nerds will bite the bullet of the cost to showcase the best of the best in the market. How do you end up with anything shitty in the the current year of information? I simply cant understand how people just "try" something
>some guy tests tech >at the time he tested it it was perfect >two weeks later manufacturer changes partners or the manufacturing process to make stuff cheaper >product has the same name, same model even, but performs exponetially worse
Because this is not made illegal.
Kino, then you can lower resolution which means you also can make better graphics, while you also can make stuff look better with less effort with the layer of blur, so that it costs less money to devs to make games and they can focus on quality and content further
the actual worse shit is those fricking screens with non matte surfaces that basically turn blacks into fricking mirror when you play games with lights on (so 99.99% of the time)
QD-OLED monitors don't have VRR gamma flicker but they flicker when the framerate abruptly changes say it goes from 150 fps to 50 fps or oscillates between 50 and 70 constantly which basically never happen outside of loading screens. Samsung fixed it with VRR control setting but it introduces micro stutters and feels like unsynced v-sync off but without tearing. Sounds good but synced via VRR or v-sync is so much smoother than unsynced it's not worth it, VRR is way more than just "no tearing".
LCD VRR displays have even worse flicker below 48 fps even with LFC so pick your poison.
But honestly, it's such a non-issue (same with LFC flicker) almost everyone ignores it. It you have horrible framepacing and constantly oscillating framerate in that range it's such a horrible experience anyway the flicker changes nothing. On a 4090 with framerate lock 3fps below refresh rate my frametimes are a flat line 99% of the time anyway. Even in Cyberpunk path tracing where it only averages 150 fps the frametimes are still very consistent without a hint of frametime instability.
>they think microLED won't burn in when miniLED already does
at best it'll extend the life by 2 or 3 years compared to OLED
the real allure of microLED is the higher brightness not longevity
accept that light sources degrade and it's not planned obsolescence but simple physics
modern OLED on new subtrates already last a long time and it's getting so cheap they put it in every phone nowadays no matter how cheap even without inkjet
the reason why oled monitors are expensive is because they're low volume
flagship OLED TVs are expensive because well they're flagship models, budget OLEDs can be had for cheap and some for less than FALD VAs
>tfw OLED
If you hit the lottery, sure.
no need, my LG oled G3 has 5 years total warranty and 7 years on screen alone, immediate replacement at home with no extra charge. I have been using it daily for almost a year and it's as perfect as right out of the box
That isn't burn in, it's gray uniformity. I shouldn't have listened to all the articles and redditors who said "bro, you just gotta break it in, bro, it will go away on it's own, bro please believe me". Guess what, 3 years later and it fricking didn't.
Yep, recently started playing Fatal Frame 2 on my OLED deck (dark game with a lot of grays) and it looks like FRICKING SHIT.
Frick OLED cultists, at least be honest about the drawbacks the technology you're bandwagoning has.
>at least be honest
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA
sacrifice everything for .000001 ms faster response time than VA. This is what they think is gonna level up their game.
ah yes just spend $1,000 on a new Oled every year.
Spend 1k on an oled with a warranty and when it burns in get a new free one, what's the issue?
more like poorgays and third worlders, they are the same ones who declare "meme" any technology that reminds them of their economic status
I don't get this. Are those burnt chinkshit screens?
my cheap lcd is 6 years old now and barely has any edge bleeding
are these pictures taken with ridiculusly long apertures?
Its just the classic shitskin cope
You see they got memed into buying VA or TN in 2023 (im not joking they actually are that moronic) and now they're tryong to pull some outstanding mental gymnastics to justify their stupidity
if you're gonna post your mom's panty shots, don't blur them, gaygoot
whats the alternative?
Nothing.
OLED is a meme and micro LED panels are stil the size of a wall.
Wait for another 10 years.
don't play games that have a black screen all the time
CRTards
My smartphone doesn't look like that at all. What the frick are you moron?
getting an oled ayylmaoware when they come out with the 1440p flat panel
>buying an OLED monitor before inkjet makes them better and more affordable in the current year of our lord 2024
Gaming is such an inexpensive hobby for me that it doesn't really matter
Knowledge must be as well.
Inkjets have been vaporware for years.
Go powder your ass for Tyrone, richie
Don't really care ¯_(ツ)_/¯
link?
Probably this
https://www.techradar.com/televisions/brighter-and-cheaper-oled-tvs-using-inkjet-printing-tech-could-finally-be-on-the-way
>could-finally-be-on-the-way
So in 15 years? got it
>TCL announced that one line in its Guangzhou production facility is investing in IJP OLEDs and suggested we could see IJP OLEDs on the market in 2024/2025.
This year or next year.
My Ayylmaoware doesn't have this problem
why do poorgays get so upset when we post this monitor
I don't get mad, but I sratch my head a little. I mean, why would you spend so much money in this when the subpixel layout is absolutely moronic? The color fringing near every single letter and text is ridiculous. It's like a permanent defect that can never be fixed.
you can't see it with cleartype
I had perfect vision last time I went for a check up with optometrist or whatever the frick they're called and I can't see the fringing
Cleartype doesn't affect browsers, pdf files or many other applications including, obviously, games.
yeah it just has red-shift instead
Based alienware producing products so fast they approach theoretical limits.
I fell for the meme and bought an IPS and it had the defects so I sent it back. Then I bought a 1440p 144hz TN and was amazed at how good it was. Been happily using that for like 7 years now, so please don't listen to the homosexuals who say TN is bad.
for me its VA
I wanted to try VA too because of how good the blacks are supposedly. How do movies look on it?
Good job.
Oh wait I thought you said IPS to TN, can't comment on how good VA is since I've never used it
His VA was trash, black smeared across the screen at higher hz and it had a weird colourshift in the centre of the screen, like viewing angle problems when you are looking dead at it, I don't know if thats just VA or because it was curved.
VA is the worst for motion clarity. black smear is horrible.
VA looks great if nothing is moving and you don't need to see into a dark part of a map.
>How do movies look on it?
i mean its ok, its def not oled good or anything, but the contrast ratio is def more noticeable than TN especially in "dark mode" environments
Same here, I even converted a friend from a samsung va to tn.
Of course they do. Just like you were gaming on shitty, blurry 240p bedroom TV even though there was a 480i trinitron in the living room.
Okay? What the frick is the problem now and what to "zoomers" have to do with this?
I'm in need of a new monitor, nothing fancy. should I go with the LG UltraGear or AOC Hero? after doing research it seems these are the two that fit my needs and budget the best
anyone?
My Steam Deck looks similar to this, not quite as bad but still has light bleed on black screens.
It's a night and day difference
Wait the oled is smaller?
what is perspective?
They’re literally stacked I saw plenty of those pics
With Switch etc
Are you stupid? The bottom edge of the top one is larger than the top edge of the bottom one.
Imagine buying 2 memes
I already sold the old one.
>buying not one, but TWO of these things
Holy kek
xD
my display doesnt look that bad in person but when i took a picture it looks 100 times worse with bleed on the edges.
>ips
backlight
>oled
burn in
jfc, what went wrong with monitors/tvs
SED was abandoned
There never was a flawless choice. Early LCDs were inferior to CRT but people just wanted a small quiet display.
MicroLED will save us brother.
maybe in 5 years when its commercially viable enough to be affordable
Right now they're only in those 100" TVs that costs $50k
It'll take a long while before monitors get them.
>Buy OLED
>Get burn in after 2 years of use
We're getting scammed with these new "technologies". I wish programmed obsolescence was punished with death. Return to monke (communist made bulbs)
>>Get burn in after 2 years of use
Rent free, my 5 year old oled TV still looks flawless
OLED will save us
It won't, because the elements naturally deteriorate at a fast rate, you can only use workaround bullshit that are bandaid fixes at best.
My 10 year old IPS performs the same as I bought it. OLEDs become unusable after 3-4 years of intense use.
>OLEDs become unusable after 3-4 years of intense use.
Copium
Copium is pretending they don't.
It's literally the biggest drawback of the tech and nobody even tries to deny it apart from coping homosexuals like you.
I've used mine for 5-8 hours during five years and it has no burn in
burn in is only one of the effects, brightness and color accuracy go down.
Blue elements die faster so the colors will shift slowly over the lifespan.
Maybe. Hard to compare of course, but mine still looks better than any lcd
Got myself alienware oled, 21:9, playing resident evil 4 on it with hdr and 120fps is the best gaming experience i had in my life.
my 1080p lcd is 14 y/o and still looks perfect
How the frick does this even happen
Dude forgot modern display are so modern so they need a screensaver from CRT era
No, they don't. Still asking how this is possible
>ASUS
not surprising
>THIS BRAND BAD
>literally uses the exact same panels from the exact same factory as the brand you shill
Every fricking time.
Correct, ASUS is bad. If I'm going to buy expensive shit I'd sooner buy from Gigabyte than them.
>missing the point
Utter fricking moron.
What point? Chinkshit is chinkshit. There's a time and place for chinkshit but if you're going to buy a screen get it from a reputable brand.
>What point?
The point that the PANEL aka the ACTUAL FRICKING DISPLAY THINGY is not manufacturered by them, it comes from the same factory as whatever brand you are shilling.
Doesn't matter if you live in an actual first world country that allows returning electronics within 2 weeks no question asked and mandatory 2 year warranty.
That's nice dear but I'd rather get a panel directly from LG than some reject panel fitted into some chink gaymer monitor.
My B2 still has no burn in, works on my tv.
>these panels don't suffer from the inherent weakenss the tech has and is physically incapable of overcoming, beacause this brand is a god to me
Ok, consooomer drone.
It's been almost 3 years and I don't have any burn in. Why you seething so badly?
>tech has... le downside
okay? I'm still within warranty period if it does frick up and will be for another 4
>I don't notice these defects because my eyes can't see more than 24 frames, so these defects don't exist
Ok blind moron.yw
Nah they don't exist lol
no burn in, sorry mate
Which kind of TV do you recommend?
>TV
No TV at all.
A good 1440p 144+Hz IPS monitor
IPSnigs will talk shit about defects showing up after a few years of use and then be like nah I don't see a problem here with shit like pic related
Turn the brightness down from 100%. OLED can't show full brightness on fullscreen so don't give me shit about how you don't want to.
Do morons really set the brightness to 100?
Also turn the damn lights off.
Even OLEDs get fricked in bright rooms.
>akshually IPS contrast and glow only looks like shit in a dim room
>akshually it looks like shit in a bright room
Pick a narrative and stick to it homosexual
Based moron, unlike you I know that each display tech has flaws. Just pick your poison.
>issues that get exaggerated by the camera due to it being polarized light
Ok moron.
Cameras are not eyes.
>allows returning electronics within 2 weeks no question asked and mandatory 2 year warranty.
Yea I know that this is why some suggest just to buy a monitor multiple times and keep the one with least errors. The difference here is that it is easier to get a good one from a brand that has good quality control in place. Some claim here that ASUS is bad in this regard but I cannot confirm this myself so take it with a grain of salt. The two years 2 warranty only work if the manufacturer sees it as defect but both BLB and IPS Glow are usually something you can see from the very beginning.
Even if they use the same panels different brands have different quality control and warranty e.g. Lenovo doesn't even recognize BLB or IPS glow as defect.
>literal schizo ramble
frick oleds but i had a stroke trying to read that
How do you have burn in for a show logo that appears for 3 seconds?
pause the show and go to sleep
My friend used oled tvs as his computer monitor, despite his best efforts he couldn't stop burn in, so he just sold them when they started to get artifacts and bought a new one.
i don't even know what causes that. I always thought it was shit build quality that caused the edge of the display to be uneven or something
If you're afraid of IPS glow and backlight bleeding you clearly never had an IPS.
I don't play in a pitch black room so not my problem
> bong or ashtray.
opinion disregarded
Flat panels no matter the type are like fast food. You're not paying for quality, you're paying for convenience. Fat tube monitors were heavy, but they are still superior to the shit they sell now.
everything looks like shit on my granddad's sony crt he hasn't replaced yet
Parts are probably worn out or need calibration, unless you mean resolution which yeah, some don't go very high.
The only way this analogy would hold up is if it was impossible to get fresh healthy food in the modern day (which is crts made in 2023) which isn't the case. You are right though
buying a CRT monitor in 2023
Wow, you homosexuals really are that dedicated, aren't you?
>Black folk really out here pretending like slightly better motion clarity makes up for 480i garbage
kek
imagine being at computers
I have that exact Trinitron.
Name A better option that does not costs more than 300$
If you are a competent thief there is little risk of stealing what you want for free.
But you may not possess the skills
Plasma Chads, RISE UP
I just discovered yesterday my screen has those smudges. And It's not even a year old. They're barely visible and they aren't in the way but it still pisses me off
>iPhone 13 Pro Max
no burn in
>Samsung G8 OLED for PC without hiding taskbar
no burn in
>LG C2 in the living room
no burn in
>Switch OLED
no burn in
I don't care about your meme burn-in pictures, my personal experience tells me it's not a thing outside your schizo poorgay delusions.
THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE BURNED IN YET. BUT THEY WILL.
You physically, literally, by definition, will have burn-in eventually if you are using an OLED monitor.
It might not be now, or in a months time, or in a years time, but you will get it.
And then you can just buy another OLED monitor and keep going
Nooooo my monitor will last 8 years instead of 10 this is planned obsolescence!!!
>BUT IT WILL BURN IN REEEE
don't care, not a poorgay. lol lmao
Hey if you're that willing to waste $1600 could you paypal me some money? You're not poor, are you?
>Alexa Built-In
Dis shit finna spy on yo b***hass
I don't care because I can bark orders at my TV to make stuff in my house work which is based. I literally tell me tv to make me a cup of coffee and it just happens like magic.
Nice, I got a C3 a month ago. Make sure to disable the eco settings.
anon if this shit burns in after 5 or 10 fricking years I would have already replaced it for something better by that time
Why can't PC monitors into local dimming?
My TV is an LCD but thanks to local dimming it's able to achieve very high contrast in dark scene, without having the risk of burn in from OLED.
No, I have superior technology.
>Repost of someone else's CRT
Interesting how a ton of the CRT crowd always reposts shit they find on here or resetera than their actual setups.
That's my CRT though.
it actually looks pretty good, load up skyrim and not this cartoon
What even is this? I've had two LCD monitors so far and the first one died on me before this ever happened to it and my current one is fine right now.
No I have my games on screen and I don't turn brightness at 100% while playing during the night
What does it have to do with zoomers?
haha you cant even imagine how bad it is
Why are you gays buying gear thats just bad? We have the internet now, where ultra elite nerds will bite the bullet of the cost to showcase the best of the best in the market. How do you end up with anything shitty in the the current year of information? I simply cant understand how people just "try" something
>some guy tests tech
>at the time he tested it it was perfect
>two weeks later manufacturer changes partners or the manufacturing process to make stuff cheaper
>product has the same name, same model even, but performs exponetially worse
Because this is not made illegal.
free market buddy. if this was bad they would go out of business
>boomers actually think this is high quality
>IT LOOKS JUST LIKE TV USED TO IN THE PAST
>LITERAL PHOTOREALISTIC GRAPHICS
looks so different on my pc
this actually looks better than the real game imho
I feel like it plays a million times worse though
Kino, then you can lower resolution which means you also can make better graphics, while you also can make stuff look better with less effort with the layer of blur, so that it costs less money to devs to make games and they can focus on quality and content further
holy shit this looks horrible
now this is real nostalgia
Nostalgiagays are fricking moronic. Who knew.
who the frick plays games in the Dark?
the actual worse shit is those fricking screens with non matte surfaces that basically turn blacks into fricking mirror when you play games with lights on (so 99.99% of the time)
qrd?
Super VA or I aint playing. Simple as.
>bought 1080p 144hz monitor in 2014
>over the past year its finally started to get burn in lines
its over
Yes they play games instead of making collages of lcd monitors
oled shills are hilarious
have they fixed the VRR flicker on OLED screens yet?
QD-OLED monitors don't have VRR gamma flicker but they flicker when the framerate abruptly changes say it goes from 150 fps to 50 fps or oscillates between 50 and 70 constantly which basically never happen outside of loading screens. Samsung fixed it with VRR control setting but it introduces micro stutters and feels like unsynced v-sync off but without tearing. Sounds good but synced via VRR or v-sync is so much smoother than unsynced it's not worth it, VRR is way more than just "no tearing".
LCD VRR displays have even worse flicker below 48 fps even with LFC so pick your poison.
But honestly, it's such a non-issue (same with LFC flicker) almost everyone ignores it. It you have horrible framepacing and constantly oscillating framerate in that range it's such a horrible experience anyway the flicker changes nothing. On a 4090 with framerate lock 3fps below refresh rate my frametimes are a flat line 99% of the time anyway. Even in Cyberpunk path tracing where it only averages 150 fps the frametimes are still very consistent without a hint of frametime instability.
No when I game I using my eyes instead of pointing a camera with long exposure to nitpick light leakage.
>they think microLED won't burn in when miniLED already does
at best it'll extend the life by 2 or 3 years compared to OLED
the real allure of microLED is the higher brightness not longevity
accept that light sources degrade and it's not planned obsolescence but simple physics
modern OLED on new subtrates already last a long time and it's getting so cheap they put it in every phone nowadays no matter how cheap even without inkjet
the reason why oled monitors are expensive is because they're low volume
flagship OLED TVs are expensive because well they're flagship models, budget OLEDs can be had for cheap and some for less than FALD VAs
>they think microLED won't burn in
Large cities already has LED billboards running 24/7.
It wouldn't be so bad if manufacturers didn't destroy the image quality of their own products with their horrendous matte anti-reflective coating.
how does crystal look?
>lit room
>zero reflections on glossy
I call bullshit
>OLED
Good goyim
Why do morons put the brightness at 100%?
this is like saying don't eat red meat because it gave some redditor ass cancer
also this guy can just claim the warranty on it
If burn in is not an issue than why doesn't every manufacturer just include a 10 year burn in warranty?
Why is there this weird overlap between people who use CRT and people who like Richard Stallman (israeli pedophile)?