I consider this to be the holy grail of board games and want to acquire a copy myself.
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Does anyone actually have it?
I consider this to be the holy grail of board games and want to acquire a copy myself.
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Isn't this the most bloated, overwrought, autistically nitpicky game ever created? Like the memes about GURPS but even more so.
What's wrong, anon? You don't want to calculate the amount of gasoline evaporated every turn?
Afraid of being a playtester for a completely theoretical game?
it's always been a meme, pick up DAK II: the campaign in north africa if you want to spend 50% of your time in a wargame moving truck markers across the board and bookkeeping logistics chits
>it's always been a meme
I know, but it's *THE* meme board game. I don't want it to actually play it, I don't have 10 years to spend on one board game, but I want it to hang on a shelf to collect dust and say that I own it. It's just so exceedingly rare or expensive that it's out of reach.
>I don't want to play games, I want to collect them
Then you're a homosexual.
If you can find a single recorded person to have ever completed one match of this game, then I will admit you're right.
Not sure how far they got but good God damn you're a gay.
What a beautiful map
modern H&C games generally look very nice. In this case you better love tan though
Sigh, when wargames used to be played over weekends or entire weeks, that where actual simulations of real battles, educating the players about the real nature of warfare and past campaigns. Good times. Now its all about casuals playing 1/2 hour pick up games involving a Goglamoth Dragon Bastard fighting a Kinslayer Dickchopper. What happened /tg/? We lost it all, God Damn you.
Casualization happened, anon.
>anal vores u
just use vassal. People simply don't have the space to set up these game physically and let them stay up for months
It was the emancipation of women. Listen to Donald Featherstone reminisce about the true old times. When you could tell your wife which rooms were out of bounds.
you dont have a wife
I have a wife and a son. Certainly no gaming table that can stay unmolested for 48hrs.
It was actually the abolition of slavery, without slaves how is one supposed to maintain a room solely for wargaming for months at a time?
That and without slaves who are you supposed to play with anyway?
>That and without slaves who are you supposed to play with anyway?
Escorts
You're getting nostalgic for something that still exists and always had a very small playerbase. Big stupid games like this still exist and the grogs that played them back then are still around and still playing them. Absolutely nothing has been lost other than companies like SPI who gambled on there being a mass market for this stuff and collapsed. Hell there are probably more people playing shit like this now than ever before because you can use Vassal or TTS instead of needing a fricking medieval banqueting table to play.
You can still play wargames over weekends or entire weeks.
But you don't want to.
You want to complain that you can't.
Fricking coward.
(Looks up from playing GDW's Series 120 game;1940)
As are you with your pointless cowardly trolling.
Campaign for North Africa is literally a troll game, as in the creator knew wargamers were asking for more complex games so he gave them the most tediously complex game he could make. Said creator Richard Berg was also a disbarred Lawyer and general massive butthole.
Also it's completely broken because playtesting it would have been a sisyphean task. Air combat in particular is very borked.
This. No one has ever even completed a single game of this. It's an actual joke of a game. Literally. It was made to troll people. No one anywhere on earth, in the 45 years it has existed, has ever finished a game of Campaign for North Africa.
moron....
A long time ago, I read somewhere that Berg once met a guy who came close to completing a full campaign game. That fellow was serving a life sentence.
why was he disbarred?
Small-time fraud against clients.
He lawyered for Drumpf.
Looks like a client's sister gave him bail money rather than return it after the case, he kept it and put it towards his client's bill. That bagged him a temporary suspension, which turned into being disbarred outright after he failed to comply with the investigation into his misconduct.
link to the docket?
This is linked on his board game geek description
https://www.leagle.com/decision/1990404153ad2d2511365
>Sigh, when wargames used to be played over weekends or entire weeks
OP pic has an estimated play-time of 15 years
There's not been a single recorded instance of someone finishing the game.
has anyone tried doing hexcrawls on hex and chit maps? If you can find some of the older games cheap you have a unique and often pretty detailed map ready to go
>The Campaign for North Africa was featured in an eleventh season episode of The Big Bang Theory called "The Neonatal Nomenclature". Despite main character Sheldon Cooper's enthusiasm towards the intricate details of the game, his friends show little interest.[12]
bazinga xD
Someone on reddit started with their university group 7 years ago, had an update 8 months ago and they're still playing. Seems like they're doing play by post or something similar as a side game.
I owned this back in the 80s. If you knew SPI mechanics it wasn't an impossible to master game. It just pure tedium that keeps it from being playable. Also, why did the Italians have greater water consumption for cooking pasta but the Brits don't for making tea?
Probably because the pasta rations were all that Italian soldiers had to eat, necessitating higher water use, whereas British troops would only miss out on a luxury that is having tea.
The pasta rule is a joke and a reference to the pasta the designers at SPI regularly ate.
Honestly, I kinda want to play this just to have the satisfaction of having done it.
It would be a solid minute of satisfaction before you come to realize you wasted 15 years on the most bloated horseshit unbalanced wargame to ever be created.
This game was not tested nor ever intended to be finished it was created purely to make the most rule heavy game ever created.
Play another hex and chit or historical miniature wargame on a massive scale instead.
>This game was not tested nor ever intended to be finished it was created purely to make the most rule heavy game ever created.
No shit moron, that's why I want to do it.
You're going to give up within 1 day of playing and if you manage to finish the game you and the other 9 people needed to play the game because the game needs 10 players minimum will all commit a group suicide.
Black person, why are you being all doom and gloom about this.
I'm not being doom and gloom it's actually awful to play and everyone whos played it can attest to it. There is 0 reason to play such a game. It's not even a challenge or anything it just takes so fricking long for literally 0 reason there is nothing to be proud of.
You have to do fricking computer calculations by hand before every fricking action and during every action. Literally the most boring thing imaginable.
Okay, so why are you trying to discourage me from wanting to play it?
Same reason someone tells someone else who proclaims they're going to jump off a cliff to not jump off a cliff.
Well if you want to it's your life your wasting. I just figured you should know it'll be 15 years of you and 9 friends revewing the rulebook and spreadsheets in a basement and sometimes moving a chit around.
Thanks man...?
No problem and good luck anon even finding a copy seems to be hard these days.
You can do it anon.
This
guy's an butthole.
nta but what are good chit Wargames? it's a type of game I've never played
It would make a much better computerized game
I know a guy who has a copy of this game -- and he's even played it to completion. However, he's not the sort to ever sell a game.
How long did it take?
>and he's even played it to completion
I highly doubt that