does anyone actually use this for desktop linux? Is it good for gaming lol
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>Is it good for gaming lol
as good as any other filesystem?
ok thanks that awnsered my question I think idk I just don't want some clunky ass fs running mah games and porn when I install in 30 minutes
thanks
>some clunky ass fs
It's the textbook clunk ass fs. It's pronounced "butterfs" because it ate too much butter and got bloated as frick. All the "kewl features" it has, none of them benefit gaming. Most filesystems rebalance in realtime, this shitter has crontab tasks to "clean up" the filesystem ALL THE TIME. Good look having a core spinlocked by this shite during gayming
You want basic, run ext4
You want to tune it, kill the journal on ext4, mount as noatime (also good for SSD)
You want edge, go old school reiserfs, that shit was good
no, this one is worse than most other filesystems
hello 2013 time traveler
It's fast and supports compression. If you have a very old system, you can get a bit more use out of it. If you have a new gaming system, you won't notice the difference.
>It's fast and supports compression.
im sold, I read forums posts saying btrfs was gay but i guess not in 2023
>It's fast
It's not fast because it can't be fast due to all it does.
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-5.14-File-Systems
Simpler filesystems will always be more performant.
>5.14
Use XFS for gaming.
It's a modern CoW filesystem from which the major advantage for a desktop user is the ability to take snapshots so in case of system error you can easily roll back to a working snapshot.
Only if you bend yourself backwards to set it up correctly or use the only distro that does it out-of-the-box: openSUSE.
>bend yourself backwards
literal skill issue, btrfs' tooling is its best part and can do all sorts of shit like saving/loading snapshots over ssh
Cope. There is a reason for the huge size of Arch wiki's page for getting btrfs+snapper+grub to work properly. There are five (5) tools in AUR that try to wrangle that mess.
timeshift just werks, not my problem
Even if you don't, you can still have automated snapshots to roll back accidental file changes and deletions. Also makes for easy incremental backups.
I just use timeshift, handles all the behind-the-scenes butterfuss stuff for you
mainline bcachefs any day now, forget btrashfs
>mainline bcachefs any day now
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Bcachefs-In-Linux-Next
I decided to use it on my current install instead of ext4
For normal use I haven't noticed any differences
The snapshots feature is cool however
yeah ive baby ducked ext4 since 2019 and it didn't give me any issues but I now want a future-proof file system
OP btw
ext4 is as future proof as it gets, as in supports exabyte drives and is near unbreakable
just admit you want shiny
I want software raid, compression and deduplication.
my root/home is mirrored between two ssd's, i like that checksums ensure data is guaranteed correct on read, and can be repaired if needed (coupled with raid) automatically
i like automatic snapshots to avoid data loss on mistakes or changes of mind (realise you needed that thing you deleted an hour ago? no problem!)
i like reflinks to make near-instant independent copies of files/folders so i can test something on one copy without affecting the other
i like zstd compression which makes my rootfs take up 43% less space, and my home 25% less space
i like that btrfs doesn't require fsck's on boot
i like that i can use subvolumes to do things like setup another distro rootfs without needing to mess with partitions and move data around, as well as avoid unusable space by having partitions larger than the data stored on them
>Is it good for gaming lol
Yes
Everyone sleeps on this but most games are awfully wasteful with their space usage, you can compress many of them down by up to 40%
>do people use it
I do
>is it good for gaming
it's a filesystem, moron
it's good for shooters but you might get crashes
ext4 is a better all-rounder
xfs is best for strategy games
no its not good for gaming cause it has bloat that interupts its read/write speed by doing journals with metadata hashing the files and checking said hashes
does it make lvm obsolete?
lvm allows to move and resize partitions however you want.
I use it with lvm cache to speed up my home partition.
Yes and it's great with btrfs compression I got extra 30gb to install (pirate) more games
slower than ext4/xfs but
>compression
>CoW (easy to make game backups for mods/cracks)
>deduplication
>snapshots
It's great for gaming, just like any other filesystem. But if you're looking for a filesystem that's specifically optimized for gaming, you might want to check out ZFS
> does anyone actually use this for desktop linux?
No, I do not want to lose my data.
It's fricking trash. One hard lockup crash on your PC and your data is fricking gone. Ext4 and XFS is way more robust.
The absolute best FS for Linux is coming btw, it's Bcachefs.
>One hard lockup crash on your PC and your data is fricking gone.
incorrect
This only happens because of btrfs bugs in older kernels, you need to run btrfs on a cutting edge distro like arch.
Debian runs 6.1