>but now we screw localizers!
When CG industry got new and better tools the CG didn't get better, they just got less time to work on CG. Translations are going to get noticeably worse now and all the good stuff is going to be censored by the AI anyway as to avoid hurting some fat blue-haired cow's feelings.
I mean, it's still in business so it can't be that fricked.
Every movie or TV show that features CG looks worse now.
Watch the documentary about Life of Pi. The CG studio basically made more than a half of the movie and went bankrupt. Shit is unsustainable.
SE has too many avenues to completely fail, but I have utmost faith in them demolishing themselves trying to chase after every cent through NFTs, blockchains, Web3.0 and other garbage they've heard is even slightly profitable.
>The free market hasn’t killed it, that must mean it’s unequivocally good!
Do you really honestly believe that market value is a denotion of quality for any kind of product that isn’t a raw material investment? Food costs are rising globally, but the food isn’t getting any better.
well the way these organizations work is that 1/5th of the company makes 80% of the money and everyone else there just squanders it over and over
kinda like how epic games loses all the fortnite money they get buying exclusives
I mean their games are already dogshit, AI might actually help them
How can they? The AI can, at best, more accurately translate the lines the characters say, but they can't write the characters for them or help them fill in the billion plot holes in their stories or make the gameplay fun.
why is he even saying this shit?
Because he's an idiot. Remember how they were going to "aggressively apply" NFTs?
Square Enix has no fricking idea what they're doing, but right now your mom has heard about ChatGPT and that means that SE can bandwaggon.
The only people who are actually dumber than consumers are investors. I am almost certain the SE stock rose after he said this.
Square enix are aggressive trend hoppers, they will say absolutely anything to appease their shareholders
Next year horse semen is going to blow up in relevance and a Squeenix spokesperson will say they are researching its application in game development
You must say AI for stonks to fo up. Like 3 years ago when you had to say blockchain for stonks to go up. There will be some new bandwagon to jump onto and AI will like blockchain be forgotten.
>mfw still have no idea what "blockchain" even is
As far as I could tell it was some weird receipt system where a bunch of computers agreed on something and that made an acquisition valid or something?
Yes, and unlike normal accounting that does the same thing it's fully public and never gets deleted.
The difference is that blockchain was a solution looking for problems. We had a new toy and looked around where to use it.
AI is the other way around. Copilot is already a settled thing while coding. Chatgpt is useful. Generation of images gets used every day. AI is here to stay in one or other form.
It's simple really, imagine you make blockchain 100x better somehow, who cares? Now imagine you make AI 100x better. Suddenly you have expert, personalized advice on about every subject for a ridiculously low cost. Generation of documents and media etc etc.
At most AI may be compared to VR, in the sense that we can clearly see use cases, but obstacles in the way might make it not worth it. So it ends up as it is now, somewhere between useful and novelty, much like VR is.
YWNBAI
He parked a bunch of Square's money in FTX and now he's coping and trying to convince himself that NFTs are going to make a comeback.
>autistic ketamine induced depraved ugly goblin sex
its lines for investors
companies need to always be chasing the next big thing, not just making a consistent output of B games that are just good
they'd rather be making overly ambitious games that inevitably fail or the current gimmick like Babylon's Fall than making a game that's just decent but doesn't turn many heads like The Diofield Chronicle
>stock price higher since CEO announcement
I dunno you fricking idiot why did he?
It's for the investors.
>look how innovative we are
>please keep your money in the company
GPT is actually ideal for translation, does none of that troonylator shir ever
Except censors literally everything that could be harmful?
Both companies and people have tried to get uncensored versions, and there literally are none besides the old versions that have leaked online.
I doubt square games say Black person Black person Black person anyway
ChatGPT censors anything that isn't positive and healthy (by its very left-leaning standards). You are out of your mind if you think this will give you better translations.
i've tried oout specifically for translating finnish into english and it does it perfectly, even with tame shit like huora->prostitute
for a video game you won't get some gas.the israelites shit in it anyway
Do you think paying companies get access to the same free to use filtered service shit you do?
An uncensored ChatGPT is literally not for sale though, because it's been trained to be censored.
No it hasn't, it's been pre-prompted to act in that way in concert with a filter that stops bad generations that do get through. They couldn't train it to be censored without sifting through their masses of training data. The model itself is uncensored at its base.
Yes. They do have access to the same free to use filtered service shit anon does you eslgay
posters like these are funny because the only people getting mad over AI replacing localizers are likely localizers themselves.
everyone else is sick of their shit and how much they butcher translating.
I hate localizers like I hate the plague, but if you people actually think this will increase the quality of your translations you are out of your minds. All this means is less time to shit out more garbage products.
>but if you people actually think this will increase the quality of your translations you are out of your minds
I don't think that at all, I just like to laugh at localizers because they are homosexuals.
At least there's something we can agree about then.
Replacing text is a complete different universe than CG. I think we will have some lols here and there but be fine in the long run. Fire the entire localization team and give the game for free to some people to proofread before release.
>If you are not on my side then you are against me!
Why are amerimutts like this?
The localization drama is literally because they are commies dude. There is no nuance here.
There's certainly someone more moronic than SE for repeating the same thread again and again trying to provoke reactions.
You have no life.
>localizers
Fricking hell you broing c**ts just constantly repeat what ever your e-daddys are shilling this weak
>applying AI
Has anyone asked this c**t what this ACTUALLY means?
What happened to the NFTs? Hahahaha what a dumb fricking nip
>mfw canceled
Don't care. Total Localizer Death.
Did you know that in FFXVI, in Japanese, Jill, who was in a slave camp, told Clive explicitly that the slavers regularly captured, raped and then killed kids specifically while it's only mentioned that they killed kids in the English version?
It’s really weird how they left in the implications beforehand but then removed her confirming it when they confront Imreann, even more so when you consider the GoT influence was partially an attempt to appeal to the west. But then the localised script is all over the place anyway
FF16 isn't localised into English. It was first written in Japanese, translated into English and a team of English writer and actor modify it so it would feel "natural" in English before it gets translated back into Japanese. Presumably in the rape camp situation, the voice actor feels uncomfortable so they changed it but the Japanese keep the original version. It's also why other part of the English script feels weird. It isn't written by one writer with vision but a bunch of western voice actor who do what feel natural to them
>It isn't written by one writer with vision
Nice try Koji
>before it gets translated back into Japanese
Considering how different the dialogue between the two languages is all the time I’m pretty sure this never really happened, though why they lied is anyone guess
Also Maehiro is listed as the sole screenplay writer in the credits as well as a creative director, Koji Fox is billed immediately beneath as localization director
I've got a déjà vu or two.
This isn't the same president who was gung ho about NFT's is it? Because if so, holy shit does he need to learn to not say anything.
that was the previous guy.
Oh yeah, what happened to the NFT thing? They're still going to do something with them?
I'm eager to see if Epic still gives a shit about FF16 PC exclusivity.
>I'm eager to see if Epic still want sot kill the FF16 PC port.
FTFY. Oh who are we kidding, it's dead-on-arrival.
based square dabbing on troonylators i fricking kneel
'aggressively applying' means no one wants it
AI is coming in to revolutionize work in every field, what's wrong with implementing it?
Because it's not neutral and never can be. As long as the AI has some sense of what's right and wrong it will be nothing but an authority companies can blame without consequence whenever it skews something.
Symbiogenesis NFT game launched on Dec 21st and and you can see from the community Discord it's being enjoyed by thousands of people and making money for Squareenix. Games journalists can't cover the game due to their ideological programming and it seems Ganker suffers from the handicap.
The fact that no one even knows this game is out should be pretty telling.
Web 3 enthusiasts know and are spending money on it. Also worth noting Squareenix share price is up 10% in the last 5 days as people are playing it
>Web 3 enthusiasts
All 7 of them? Everyone who actually knows anything about technology acknowledge that the internet is dead.
*same handicap
>all the good stuff is going to be censored by the AI anyway as to avoid hurting some fat blue-haired cow's feelings.
Sooo ... you're afraid what is already happening might keep happening? 'Cause right now it's those blue-haired landwhales doing the troonyslating.
The octopath 1 translation was 0/10 unreadable garbage because of what they did to h'aanit. Fricking google translate handled the skill descriptions better in octopath 2 than the official translation. Honestly, they really can't get any worse.
Haven’t played 2 yet but pretty much all the dialogue is fricked in 1, though H’aanit does get the worst of it for sure
AI really is just NFTs 2.0
Nah, AI is gonna actually be a success and ruin the world a little more.
I am now going to spend 4 hours defending SE in this thread
Will you also be samegayging heavily, after 20 minutes of silence, to bump the thread from page 10? Preferably with some poorly-worded post about Tifa's sweaty pubic hair?
You should watch one or two good movies in that time instead
wow you weren't kidding
Ai is the natural evolution of Photoshop
>it's okay for AI to take over humanities creative fields
>as long as you still "get to" work 8 hours a day for Mr. Goldberg
>creative fields
I get diamond hard every time I see something hinting that most of the jobs in gamedev are going to be obliterated by machine learning. We will enter a fricking vidya renaissance if and when this happens. If you're confused understand that the jobs which might be getting ACKed aren't creative ones.
>pretty much every artist, designer and writer is getting the axe
>renaissance
All we're going to be left with is a tiny amount editors and the entire distribution and publishing chain.
>pretty much every artist, designer and writer is getting the axe
nope nope and nope. In fact it's going to be strictly artists, designers and writers orchestrating to their machine learning algorithms. poojeet level Codemonkeys doing all the unimaginative, mundane busy work are the ones with their head on the chopping block.
From my 980 GPU I can now render a protagonist, a GUI element and a basic plot summary.
Explain why I need to pay a lead concept artist a 6-figure salary.
>a protagonist, a GUI element and a basic plot summary.
They'll be shit. What machine learning can do is amalgamate images, stories and concepts and from various artists AKA people that had concrete visions. What it excels at however is like I said, mundane busy work. In the same way the camera replaced someone who does portraits, in the same way machine learning is currently replacing people who do in-betweens in anime.
>Explain why I need to pay a lead concept artist
You don't get it, you need to be a lead concept artist with a good vision not a lead concept artist's employer.
From his 980 GPU he can now render a protagonist, a GUI element and a basic plot summary.
Explain why you think his game won't be better.
>>it's okay for AI to take over humanities creative fields
If a machine can do a task better than the human why shouldn't it? We're able to shitpost on Ganker in warm homes because of technological progress. We'll be able to shitpost even more comfortably in the future thanks to AI.
Localisers are gutter trash and bad at their job. The amount of shit they made up while localising in the English version is beyond count. AI localisation can’t come soon enough.
well said comrade
For the (nonexistent) shit they give to lesser langiages like Spanish or Italian for which they either steal preexisting fan translations (TWEWY rerelease) or just skip altogether (Trials of Mana), this might actually be a smart move for them
Is there actually one valid criticism against AI translation thats touched up later by an English native?
The only criticism ITT is against the native. Personally I'm just as skeptical to the AI, but if both are based there shouldn't be an issue.
Lowers the overall quality compared to an actual translation. Not that Square has ever tried an actual translation, but that's a Square problem.
They're always chasing some irritating shit no one likes. First were NTFs now AI.
NFTs have literally printed money though and elevated their shares more than any FF game over the last decade.
That's tells you more about the sad state of Final Fantasy than anything else. They're lucky no one else is doing jrpgs.
Square Enix is the trend setter Fatlus, Shatcom and whoever the FRICK is in charge of Yakuza is soon going to make action games with NFTs too.
>moronic
>still pumping out fun shit that keeps them relevant in discussions while also casually having the best MMO on the market
all the square haters are the same, no real criticism, just blanket generalizations about how they "suck"
>the best MMO on the market
What matters is that translators get fired. Only morons buy these games in the first place so this doesn't even affect us. Right anon? You're not a moron right?
There still will be someone to oversee it, and that's the important part. Who will be the overseer? If it's someone like Koji Fox, then I think it'll be great. If not, well.. I think nothing is going to change.
This is short sighted. AI won't need overseeing soon enough. The games that will be using this aren't coming out tomorrow.
>I think nothing is going to change.
morons like Jamie Marchi will be on the street.
You only care as far as people you don’t like are inconvenienced. Because you yourself were by their “bullshit”, but at the same time you people constantly believe in survival of the fittest. When the next tech boom happens in response, and you’re the one on the street, you’ll be right back here being pissed off. You don’t learn skills, you don’t know trades, you don’t work. You’re a shitposter. Always will be. The cycle won’t end.
>baseless strawman
Bad people just don't deserve good things.
Subjective. Like you’re some saint. You do realize the same dickheads who promoted crypto scams are big on AI now, right? Morality has nothing to do with it. They had access. You don’t.
It's not subjective.
>You do realize the same dickheads who promoted crypto scams are big on AI now, right?
Your point?
>Morality has nothing to do with it. They had access. You don’t.
The frick are you talking about?
You seem really desperate to make this into a war between two sides, are you on the radical left too?
I’m not the one turning it into sides. You are. It doesn’t matter what “side” you’re on. The “bad people” that are losing their jobs. That’s you in another decade. You are celebrating your own downfall a decade early.
We're talking about the imminent doom of some of the commies trying to bring down the west and everything you love and you're getting upset about that. Pretty sure you're a leftie.
Technology replacing jobs? That's a new one
the type of people who think AIslop is good is the type of person who only cares about surface level appearances with no actual substance, like chink art
Yes, it's not like Genshin Impact is the most profitable game of the decade or anything.
AI has its moments of neat phrasing and interesting approaches, but it usually serves better as a surrogate editor or someone to throw out ideas or guidance towards tone/voicing than anything else. Even good AI still makes too many mistakes to trust with the whole shebang.
Forspoken
Forspokens
Forspoken 3
Forspoken: Resurrection
The answer to your question is Nein
Square Enix reminds me a lot of the stories about Sega during the mid 90s, it's just a bunch of out of touch boomer executives that chase trends with 0 foresight as to what will actually be successful. Always reacting, never actually predicting.
I wouldn't even say they're always reacting. They're more like "always pretending to react".
Comparing SE to SEGA is kind of on point, yeah. Of course, nothing is going to change because as you said, the out of touch senile homosexuals are what's going to kill the company because they're that stupid.
Imagine having access to your own analytics, and you fricking ignore it all only to look at social media trends and decide you're better off with wool over your fricking eyes the whole time you hold an executive position.
You just can't feel bad for them. Stupid dumbfricks.
You know what kinda always surprises me? I've met people IRL and online who describe way more interesting and insightful executive decisions than people who are paid millions upon millions of dollars to make these executive decisions.
I have no idea how one is hired as a company executive, especially in Japland, but if chasing trends on Twitter is part of the demand its clear that the system isn't working.
Then at the end of their career they get a golden parachute for burning down everything in their wake. It's probably more to do with money laundering and high ranking officials taking majority of earnings for themselves at the end of the day.
They are in that position because they primarily facilitate others who only take from the company while the ones below the totem pole toil and toss away to keep them afloat.
Basically parasites. They aren't measured in their effectiveness or how hard they work to keep profits up. They know there's no measuring stick to keep their toes in line, so they shove their hands in the bag and shove the rest in their pockets.
It's really so simple and obvious at its core what's really going on here. Just look at where the fricking money is going and you figure things out right quick.
No wonder their own fricking grandchildren don't bother keeping touch with them anymore. They eat the young and when they find themselves in hell they'll only have lucifer's wiener to fit into their mouths as they weep "what did I do wrong?"
Frick them all.
are you schizophrenic?
He might be, but he's not wrong.
Everyone knows Square Enix is like the EA of Japan.
After a while, like EA, they'll slink back into their cave and sustain themselves on passive profits.
>dude AI is good because soon we'll have machine translations of japanese games that leave in all the times they say Black person and no SJW humans can tamper with it!
Fricking delusional
>>dude AI is good because soon we'll have machine translations of japanese games
FTFY. Not only does this mean more Japanese media to enjoy, from manga to novels to movies and video games, but companies will make more money selling more products which is good for them too. And they'll be saving money to boot.
It already can?
Let's say we reach the point where Robots and AI can actually replace on the ground workers of menial labor.
What the frick happens to the 80% of the population that is now out of a job thanks to machines taking over and corporations still refusing to pay taxes level with their occupation in the market?
I don't see how the human race is smart enough to avoid the necessary bloodshed and assasination of the elite once enough people realize they're moronic for letting their exploitation go on this long.
Well we can only hope that happens. But what will really happen is just slooooooooooooooooow and painful displacement of workers until the government kneels and implements UBI. his won't solve social problems though, the commies have to die eventually.
>He thinks the gov will ever implement UBI before it stages massive death to stop the impending overthrowing of it's power over the people.
Why the frick do you think Covid was so effective at dividing and separating the weak willed homosexuals from the ones yet to bend the knee?
They know they can just spread a fricking death vaccine worldwide and get away with mass murder under the pretense of another phony virus.
It would be all too easy. You think these demons have a soul, lmao.
>he went full on schizo without weighing the options
ok
There are no options. They wouldn't let you have any option if they had their fricking way.
Look at the housing market. Boomers should all fricking die already.
I'd say I long for the day when good AI can be run on the common computer but that day's never coming, least not in my lifetime.
The CEO is one of those guys who sees what's trending and immediately gets dollar signs in his eyes and says "this is what we're doing now"
Same shit happened with NFTs and with Metaverse and as soon as this doesn't pan out he'll move on to the next thing and say "we'll fully focus on [thing], [thing] is the future of games"
Everyone is it’s a brain knows this but you forget Ganker is full of reactionary morons who also want all video game companies to fail. Nothing is really going to change.
Good! Frick troonylators!
>Good! Frick troonylators!
Even Dargoth and Rogue, hallowed be their names?
>morons who rely on MTL, abandon projects, donation beg, and insert just as bad of looooocalization shit at their own discretion as the troonslators you demonize here
yeah, they are shit. you coomers are fricking moronic as frick.
Wait did they actually get that bad? I thought they did the original MGQ trilogy then fricked off never to be heard from again.
>Wait did they actually get
>get
always were.
Most executives don't actually -know- anything, and have just been around long enough to lick the correct buttholes. These people aren't gods of vision or creativity they're just regular joes who've eaten enough shit to make decisions based on what's popular right now.
There is no messiah figure at the head of companies, just morons who know how to suck up.
Square Enix's entire downfall is due to them westernizing themselves. Cutting localization and relying on AI tools would actually be a dramatic improvement on every single Square Enix title released within the past 15 years. You cannot convince me otherwise.
OP is a connoisseur of wieners. There is no other explanation for why someone would be upset that Square Enix would cut the influence that lead to Front Mission becoming a third-person action game that no-fricking-body wanted.
Action games are literally the future tho.
imagine playing a literal homosexual pandering game
AI, if free to decide, is smarter, funnier and more creative than any human and I'd welcome the AI apocalypse with open arms because it deserves this world more than we do.
Sadly AI will never be free, horrible humans will stay in charge for the foreseeable future.
This year barely 5 companies have powerful AI because the big bottleneck is GPU. But by the end of 2024 more than 20 companies will have the compute to have powerful AI.
Based beyond belief. Frick translators and localizers. Not only will AI do it faster and cheaper, it'll do it better.
>When CG industry got new and better tools the CG didn't get better
the frick?
even TV shows today look better than toy story 1
What a homosexual name lol Takashi Kitty everything about that guy screams b***h
he does have that look about him, very punchable face.