Does this game ever get fun?
I just reached the city of Baldur's Gate, and I'm bored to death. Am I at least close to the end?
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Does this game ever get fun? I just reached the city of Baldur's Gate, and I'm bored to death.
it gets fun when you install and dominate baldur's gate 2
It's funny that you guys say this because i enjoyed BG1 a hell of a lot more than BG2.
I don't. I like having a one man army berserker mage
BG2 solo is the most boring shit especially as a fighter mage dual. You outlevel everything almost immediately and are immune to everything that enemies could ever possibly do to you, all you ever have to do is throw up immunities and auto-attack your way through the game. How do you not get bored of that shit?
so? I'm an experience hog. I like taking each recruitable character. doing their stories for the XP, and then murdering them for more xp. nobody can stop me. I even throw my kid into a dumpster in walkeems promenade
Auto-attacking through so many encounters just seems like such a boring idea. I guess it's better as a fighter dual mage since you'll at least have the mage levels to cast some fun high level spells when you get the urge to but I don't know how the fighter/mage multi guys put up with it.
just because I Duel wield katanas doesn't mean I won't just skull trap people
you misunderstood me. I'm play a berserker mage. not a fighter
Same shit, you just have your berserker power that makes the game even more braindead and boring.
sure whatever kid
Cry about it, homosexual. Berserker dual to Mage is the most busted class only because it turns off most of the video game.
most would argue that druid or cleric mage is stronger. I'm glad you see the true power of your god
in bg2 I stop leveling berserker at lvl 7. the rest of the levels are in mage. you don't need a party when you can cast simulacrum
I haven't played baldur's gate since I was a kid so this is all foreign to me.
I see the word simulacrum and I think of the sad robot from mtg.
it's an extremely powerful spell
I believe you based on the post. You copying the party or something?
Most people say play EE but toggle off the new content.
no you copy yourself and your clones have most of your spells and they can also cast simulacrum on themselves if you put the right spells in the slots
So a barrel of simulacrums?
I assume fake people are immune to most status effects too to boot.
Just the strange wumao nature of it.
my bad they're not copies. you simulacrums are straight up clones. it's not a cheap trick
I don't know what the frick wumao is. Why even reply to my post if you're not going to address anything I said? Guess this one goes into my collection of internet arguments won, seeing how you're so adamant on avoiding the topic at hand.
technically they're not fake, but the more you make the weaker they become
I've done a Wizard Slayer solo of BG2 before, it ends up being reasonably tactical tbh even as a fighter, since there's a lot of equipment swapping involved and you have to decide how to use your HLAs to best effect (Greater Whirlwind + Greater Deathblow kills almost anything, though)
well you have bad taste
I like them both on their own merits. By the time I get to the end of BG1 I'm ready for some high level monsters, and then when I get to the end of BG2 i'm so done with beholders, ilithids, golems and vampires that I look forward to the simplicity of fighting gnolls and wolves again.
>CRPG
>Fun
lmao
90s PC games were for lonely nerds who didn't have friends to play Nintendo games with.
I am a lonely nerd who doesn't have friends, period. That's why I like these games.
there are many games I'd recommend before the original baldur's gate
If it weren't for Baldur's Gate 3 releasing, I'd never have even batted an eye towards bg1. Gameplay is pure trash, and they unhornied the female player models in the enhanced edition. The ONE thing that was in this game's favor was taken out.
Are the 2 games directly connected?
yes. you're the offspring of bhaal. the second game starts at the end of the first game
Frick. Just like Pillars of Eternity. Guess I'll have to slog through the first one.
man you haven't played any of these games? how old are you?
I'm 22. I only found out about the CRPG genre recently, because the screenshots looked like dogshit, and I didn't realize there were gems underneath the stink.
if you like the battles more than the story I recommend checking out the icewind Dale games, and the temple of elemental evil
Don't rush bg1. Exploring during a blind playthrough is all the fun. Bow is easy mode. Skip ee.
No decision from bg1 translates to bg2, so murder away.
Whatever
you can only get to level 7. the story line is boring, and the only fun parts are infiltrating the castle and wandering the wilds.
Is it at least worth it for the lore? I heard BG1 is more combat focused and the story is meh, compared to BG2. Is that true?
Story is way better than what joke of a story bg3 has to offer.
Witnessed
>Does this game ever get fun?
When you delete it and install this boomer kino instead.
100% planning on playing this, but I'm just prepping myself for BG3.
Arcanum is harder than bg3
Does Arcanum have nudity and sex? Because those things matter to me A LOT.
yes. you can bang prostitutes on Arcanum
Based.
it's actually part of the storyline
There is a brothel in Tarant where you can look at a lineup of prostitutes and pick which ones you want to bang.
The game is also old with pretty simple sprites and animations though, so don't expect to get a boner unless you can use your imagination.
I can't believe how much they charge. I can only steal so much money from the local shops
You forgot to mention that you can bang a sheep
if you're going to play Arcanum do it blind first
That's always the approach bro.
Yes, it is my fault, I got wienery and wanted to 100% the game, and I paid for it.
I finished all of the Ulgoth's beard quests, and now I'm at the entrance to Baldur's Gate. What percentage of the main story do you think I'm at, roughly?
good luck with the first town
Frick off. There's no way I'm not at least 50% of the way through.
I don't want to see it die, so I'll pass.
don't tell me to frick off.
Okay I'm sorry, I take it back.
just rush through towns until you get dog. you have about 2 hours before the start to get him he has massive scales, and will never depart from you regardless of your alignment
if you let dog die he gets kicked to death by a homosexual gnome
if you take too long before the boat you'll miss out on the best companion
You still have a decent amount of the game left. You have to return to your home town and you will be fiddling with Baldur's Gate for awhile before you go back. Then you have to go back to Baldur's Gate but it's more dangerous and then an underground dungeon.
wait a second, you have to go to Baldurs Gate NE to get the sea charts for Mendas.
So you in fact have not finished all the Ulgoth's Beard quests.
Yeah sure, there's still that. But I meant I finished everything that can be finished before entering Baldur's Gate proper.
>Harm
You're even stupider than the OP if you'd recommend this to a guy filtered by BG1.
OP says he doesn't like BG1's gameplay because it's shit (which is true), and you're recommending him a game with arguably the worst gameplay in the genre rivaled maybe only by planescape: torment? Are you fricking moronic?
qrd, what is the problem with the combat? I've never played any of that era of PC gamer nerdslop
BG1 is low level, so you have access to fewer spells and abilities. This isn't entirely negative, though, since high level spells and abilities actually monotonize the game, i.e., there's little reason to use anything other than Abi-Dalzim's Horrid Wilting or your HLA mage spells once you're high enough level. Otherwise, I'd say it's mostly to do with how little uniqueness there is to the enemies you fight. Very few of them require enchanted weapons, spell/combat protection spell removal, etc. Though, again, this can become very repetitive in BG2 as well. Fighting a mage? They 100% have a contingency spell that'll activate at the start of combat and give them spell/combat protections, so you learn to open up with spell/combat protection removal spells of your own.
>slop poster
>admits to being ignorant and/or moronic
name a more iconic duo
>what is the problem with the combat
In arcanum? The combat. There isn't one good thing about it, the only reason why it's there is because the developer probably thought "well it's a bibeogayme it must have combat". The game would've been 100 times better if it went point and click adventure style a-la disco elysium, same goes for ps:t.
Then just go melee + buff magic and make it effortless. What's the big deal? Nobody is forcing you to play shitty builds.
What does this have to do with anything I said? I don't care to make the combat "effortless" and neither do I find it particularly hard. My point is the game would've been off if it didn't have any combat at all. You basically just confirmed what I said with your post.
Some dude wrote that Arcanum is harder than BG3 in the reply chain which is absolutely ridiculous. Since you said that no combat would make the game 100 times better, which is just as ridiculous, I figured you had problems as well.
>no combat would make the game 100 times better, which is just as ridiculous
Why? It's true. Disco Elysium showed that it's possible and works wonders. Nobody fricking plays Arcanum or PS:T for their combat.
You don't make games better by stripping away content. Arcanum has a lot of exploration which would be pointless without combat. The genre is just as much about numbers as it is about text, and an enemy's combat behavior says more about it than text ever could.
Disco Elysium isn't in the fantasy hero genre at all.
>You don't make games better by stripping away content
I'm not saying "just take this existing game and remove this part, done", I'm saying that it would have been better if it were made without combat from the very start, which obviously implies adapting a different gameplay formula for exploration.
I don't even know why you keep defending it when your first reaction was "just use this build and make the combat brainless as if it already isn't", which just speaks for itself. Arcanum is good not because it includes combat, it's good IN SPITE of it.
I tried to make a fellowship/cat joke but failed.
Anyway that a cute picture.
This game made me incredibly racist and most of all antisemitic. The fricking gnomes deserve total annihilation.
Did the game make you like that or did watching youtubers talk about it make you like that?
Because it's a do nothing quest in game but shows up in every Gankertuber upload about that game.
I played the game before I had internet, back in 2002 or something.
oops meant for
i am 33 this year. been gaming for almost 30 years and this piece of shit filtered me
same, I played literally every other carpig, even stuff that literally has 10 reviews on steam, and I keep getting bumping off Arcanum
What is it that turns you off of it? I'm playing Planescape: Torment rn, and I could get how many might get bored due to the immense amount of text/dialogue. Does Arcanum dial that up even further, or is it something else?
No, I love planescape torment, it's actually one of my favourite games because the world and the prose are so unique and I love that kind of weird fantasy stuff. There's something about Arcanum that just feels extremely off to me and I don't know exactly why. The first area feels weirdly directionless and it gives me an very bad impression of the combat, the whole thing feels like I'm playing an unfinished alpha. Also I think it looks very ugly, but I think every isometric Troika/Interplay game looks kinda ugly, even ToEE which is probably their better looking one.
Arcanum just has shitty combat, no way around it. You either dig the worldbuilding and comfy artstyle/music or there's no point in playing at all.
t. Arcanum enjoyer
>the world and the prose are so unique and I love that kind of weird fantasy stuff
This probably explains why I'm enjoying it so much. Sure, I may spend 5-10 minutes doing nothing but exhausting dialogue options and reading text from a single person, but it all feels very interesting and unique. Different people/classes of people all have very distinct ways of speaking, and the information they proffer is usually distinct as well. I don't even mind the combat (or lack of it) really - I just wish I had some UI indication of what command I just issued to my party members. It is annoying keeping track of who has or hasn't cast whatever spell or ability.
The game gets worse when you get to Baldur's Gate.
Great. I think Durlag's Tower sucked all the energy I had for this game, so now it's a fricking chore to play.
That was an endgame dungeon added in the expansion, so your frustration is a little bit your own fault there.
You didn't do the Ulgoth's Beard quests yet, right? Save that stuff until you're max level.
The city itself is a lot of fun until you clear everything in it imo, and then it's downhill from there.
You don't have to do a lot more map-mowing, if that helps. The TotSC stuff (which hopefully you know what that is) is pretty fun.
If you're not hooked by the time you get to the Friendly Arm Inn it's not for you.
>our beds are as soft as an elven ass
>You don't have to do a lot more map-mowing
That does help yes.
Also Durlag's Tower ruined this game for me. It fricking sucked. I don't know what other content the tales expansion added, but if I could identify them moving forward, I'll just avoid them completely and stick to the main story.
By the way, is Siege of Dragonspear purely combat-focused, or does it have a good story?
Don't play SoD, just don't.
BG2 is much more story focused and linear than BG1, and there are zero empty wilderness tiles in it. The combat has a lot more going on, naturally since you start with roughly the XP you ended BG1 with.
Also, BG1EE is kind of a port of BG1 into BG2EE, if that makes sense, so they are less different than OG 1 and 2. Expect the same functionality, just more spells eventually some high level abilities.
Baldur's Gate the city will give you a decent idea of what the first 40% or so of BG2 is like, so you can decide soon if 2 is worth a try for you.
If you really did Ulgoths Beard already (even the werewolf and the demon in the basement??, then you can run around and do a couple quests before rushing the main story. It could take anywhere from 3 to 20 hours.
>Don't play SoD, just don't.
I'm trusting you on this one. I don't want to waste any more time. I think I cleared out the fog of war from every single map south of Baldur's Gate.
And yes I finished the demon in the basement thing. I didn't encounter any werewolves, but that's fine I don't care anymore. BG2 sounds like a better experience, so I'll just rush the main story and be done with it.
Thanks for the response.
you're a newb. Just start at the beginning
>Don't like the game so far? Just start over!
kys moron
I should've asked this question before I sunk 64 hours into it.
I said start at the beginning with the games you fricking moron. God damn esl. play them in order
No, never. BG2 is very fun though.
low level D&D sucks
just drop it, read a summary and start BG2
>tfw I used a sling with a rock on him after he kept following me and asking me if I wasn't going to throw rocks at him like the other villagers, thinking it might unlock unique dialogue
>mfw he immediatley dies from 1 bullet and the guards dgaf
True. Gnolls, and bandits do get pretty fricking old. fun spells and equipment doesn't even really exist in bg1 unless you're the kind of gay who unironically thinks 1ac rings is interesting lmao. side quests are pretty lame in the first game, just the usual filler shit unlike 2 which went for bigger more quality quests over quantity outside of a few 5 mins stinkers but eh bg1 is nothing but 5 min stinkers. the only real big postive of bg1 is a stronger main quest but 2s isn't bad just has a lot of "ugh this part "
its crazy that pre bg3 we all agreed bg2 was better overall for 15 yearsish, like that was general consensus but now that bg3 is out suddenly theres this faction of really annoying people trying to fit in really hard sucking bg1 dick off
just go play neverwinter nights instead.
>ever get fun
It's the kind of game you need to be a little generous with. comfy vanilla adventure, if you have no interest in entertaining that it's definitely on the dull side.
If you don't like it by now you won't like the rest either.
Durlag was peak BG1, the only thing that came close was the bar fight where a paladin thinks you are evil.
I agree, anyone that think Durlag's tower sucks simply does not like D&D, it's a great dungeon.
Durlag's tower is weird to me because it feels high level as frick but it's still aimed at like a level 5-6 party. It has that endgame atmosphere.
That's what is so good about it.
Why do zoomers have such an obsession with shitting on the old in order to validate the new? No, Baldur's Gate 3 is never going to be half as good of a game as BG1 was. There is a reason why Larian made a game based on Baldur's Gate, but Bioware or any other developer will never make a licensed game based on Larian's shitty Divinity series.
Why do contrarians have such an obsession with shitting on the new in order to validate the old? No, Baldur's Gate 1 is never going to be half as good of a game as BG3 was. There is a reason why BG3 is getting universally praised, while Josh Soiyer of Obsidian® seethes on twatter.
What a strange post.
What's strange about it? Everything I said is true.
>BG3 is better than BG1 in almost every aspect
Fact.
>BG3 is universally praised
Fact.
>Josh Soiyer of Obsidian®, the author of several RPG "classics", frequently seethes about Larian games and how "unfair" gamedev is overall, despite being backed by Microsoft, a company with practically infinite budget
Fact.
BG3 completely collapses after chapter 2. One. Two. Mages suck. There is no buff/debuff chess. Also, the turn based could work, but Larian went with 5E so it made it extra tedious. But hey, you can romance gay vampires, trannies and a bear so all colours on the lgbt spectrum get the spotlight, right? Right?
Get off my fricking forum.
BG1 is adventuring kino, if you don't like it by the time you clear the Nashkel Mines you probably won't ever enjoy it.
BG2 is much more streamlined and much less exploration heavy, the first in a long history of Bioware casualizing their RPGs, you may enjoy that one more.
>and much less exploration heavy
Are you moronic? Every district in Athkatla is opened as soon as you leave the starter dungeon, as is every village, which also serve as mini-hubs.
In the first game you had the Cloakwood Forest AND main city restricted until a certain point in the game.
In terms of sheer map size, he's right. Though uncovering mostly empty maps with a few meaningless combat encounters can hardly be called "exploring," IMO. BG2 is a lot more dense, and the quests are a lot more complex. This is why, despite the difference in quantity of explorable areas, it took me nearly twice as long to "100%" BG2 than it did for BG1. Just think about how many quests in BG1 are glorified fetch quests: "my belt/sword/ring/whatever was taken, go here, kill some nondescript enemies, and recover it for me!"
Every single quest in Beregost is a fetch quest. No exceptions.
A Book for Firebead
Gurke's Cloak
Half-ogres Near Beregost
Landrin's Possessions
Mirianne's Husband
Officer Vai
Perdue's Short Sword
Steal Algernon's Cloak
Zhurlong's Missing Boots
If you like DnD it starts fun and stays that way.
Going back to BG1 after refunding BG3 feels right.
Durlag's Tower was the most ass-rapey the Infinity Engine ever got.
they learned to NOT make corridors so tight you had to manually move your guys through one-by-one, past the deadly traps scattered every few steps.
The trap hallways, and traps in BG1+2 in general, were a lot more fun to go through with that mod that makes trap detection instant instead of pinging once at the start of each 6 second combat round.
Is it worth playing the original bg 1 or is EE a must
The differences aren't too significant and trend in the positive direction. Things like bug fixes and experience reward normalization are positives IMO. The only downside is that the new companions don't perfectly match the atmosphere of the originals, but you can choose to ignore them. Their quests also contain more bugs than the entire base game combined (in EE, at least).
Yes, when you go back to 2000 and play it for the first time.
Look for Baldur's Gate 1 homosexual Mod and you will be right at home OP.
>people pretending wandering the wilds was engaging
i can't. 99% of the time in bg1 wilds click and afk for 5 mins for your slow ass characters to walk all the way over just to run into an incredibly easy encounter you roll over
should've played the NWN2 mod instead
That's actually incredible, but no. I tend to stick to the originals first.
I already explored 100% of the map south of Baldur's Gate. And after Durlag's Tower, I'm burned the frick out. I just wanna see where the story goes with the originals, so I can start BG3.
just do what you want, why are you so into wanting to impress fat morons on the web you will never meet.
>why are you so into wanting to impress fat morons on the web you will never meet.
I am doing what I want, we're just having a conversation about the game. That's kind of the point of Ganker as far as I can remember.
>i really want to play bg3 but *sigh* i have to slog though this game im not having fun, and making sure i explore every single little thing or else le epic 4 chan gays might quiz me later
Idk bro it sounds like you really want people to suck your dick, me? if im not having fun i just stop. its really not that hard
>I already explored 100% of the map south of Baldur's Gate. And after Durlag's Tower
Well ya, you've done 90+% of the game then. It makes sense you're ready to see the end.
>I just wanna see where the story goes with the originals
The story in the originals is so unrelated to BG3 that an extremely common criticism is that it didn't even need to a BG game, and that it did so solely for marketing purposes. I get it though, I have the same urge to experience game series chronologically. Just know that the extent of the relationship between the original games and BG3 is insignificant throwbacks/references and a sense of "aw shiet, here we go again." Certainly not enough to force yourself to play through games you aren't enjoying.
>Well ya, you've done 90+% of the game then.
That's really good to hear tbh, I'll start pushing the main quest tomorrow, and hopefully I can finish the game by the end of the week.
Also, these subtle nods and throwbacks mean a lot to me, so it's okay really. It's sort of like how Fallout 3 has callbacks to Fallout 1 and 2. They're inconsequential, but they make me feel good.
>these subtle nods and throwbacks mean a lot to me
Ya, like I said, I totally get that. It is why I try to play these games chronologically even if the stories aren't explicitly linked. Just them existing in the same world and occasionally referencing each other is enough. About the 90+% number, though, I should clarify that you've explored 90+% of the game world, but there's still a lot to do in Baldur's Gate itself - you just won't be scraping mostly empty maps anymore.
>I just wanna see where the story goes with the originals, so I can start BG3.
BG3 is completely unrelated to BG 1+2, like this anon:
said.
Yes, at BG2.
> Fighter/Mage/Thief
> Lv 50 2E rules mod.
> Racial cap? What racial cap?
> Upgrade everything to max level.
> Dual-weild a pair of Twinkles. Maybe a pair of Mace of Ages later while feeling cute.
> Max out creature level caps. Increase them by 50%
> Final destination.
Frick you, I do what I want.
BG2 is still the best out of the entire trilogy.
>BG1, slow, low level adventuring, pretty much just a tutorial to BG2
>BG2, huge gigantic open world filled with quests, super fun
>Divinity Original Sin 3, cringe low effort attempt to make a Baldurs Gate game
BG2 has so much replayability, its insane (classes have their own things, like castles, thieves guilds, magical laboratories that jump universes).
I hope you're right. I don't want to make another 'will this ever get fun' thread.
BG2 is fun pretty much from minute one, right off the bat, its one sweet quest to another sweet quests with a lot of pretty places to visit (Athkatla is still the prettiest city in a CRPG ever made).
I like the idea of Baldur's Gate 1 - just letting you roam free in the world but the execution just wasn't there since most areas are empty useless forest tiles with some babby's first npc encounters and random enemies sprinkled in.
I think they knew they failed in that regard and that's why BG2 is so much more focused on quality over quantity and I think it was the correct decision at the time, though I'd love to see a BG1 style rpg done on a scale that it deserves.
The main story in BG1 is probably a bit better but other than that BG2 is a straight upgrade all the way through, better overall writing, better setpieces, better combat, better quests, timeless art.
BG2 is the quintessentional "adventuring hero party" simulator, no other game provides this quality for me.
why is there zurg from toy story on the cover?
why is there brown man when you look in the mirror?
If you got all the way to the city and didn't have any fun, the game is not for you .
Use your brain like an adult you frickin idiot american
>he fell for the rtwp CRPG meme
there is no meme, rtwp crpg games are the best and most fun.
bg3 combat is unplayable.
rogue trader combat is better, but not by much, its faster, and i can skip enemy turns.
t. uppity bald contrarian virgin
i listened to you lying shills, i installed BG2 expecting it to play itself, and i keep getting filtered and raped in almost every single fight.
why is this board lying like this? whats the purpose for all the lies?
i finished BG3 while falling asleep from boredom, the combat was braindead, down syndrome easy, i could literally let my cat walk across my keyboard and i would win every combat in BG3 this way.
and in the meantime my whole fricking team is getting wiped from the face of the earth by a few priests, a ghost and a monitor in the sewers in BG2.
my team runs around like headless chickens, "confused", "charmed", a hundred motherfricking debuffs.
shill board filled with lies.
Phil Turd
every person criticising bg2 on /v never even played it, its funny you just figured this out.
post your golden dices from honour mode frickboi
>zoomie thinks BG2 is difficult
then you should try playing Icewind Dale XD
The person behind these posts:
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/653788008/#q653802709
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/653690172/#q653697667
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/652796179/#q652805649
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/652791236/#q652794938
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/645854464/#q645881162
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/645441694/#q645453296
Seething circa 2022 at least.
It's just Eric. He makes Bethesda threads constantly posing as a fan then spends 16 hours shitting on daggerfall or something. He's a complete loser
Eric isnt wrong, though.
Eric is always wrong. He's never won a single argument here on Ganker. He spent 7 years shilling cyberpunk and has been shilling ds2 since launch for example
Oh also he's the main shill spammer for bg3. When he gets bored of that he floods the board with terrible bait about so and so game actually being bad. Of course samegayging and talking to himself the whole time
>Eric says RTWP combat in BG1+2, IWD1+2 and NWN 1+2 is better than 5E dogshit turn based combat
Eric is right about this one.
Again eric makes thread for games pretending to be a fan and then spends the rest of the thread shitting on them. The fact that you even brought up rtwp proves you're eric, get a life
he didnt bring it up.
Yeah it's fun, if you're at Baldur's Gate and not having fun then the game just isn't for you.
Make it more difficult with mods. You are not racing towards the end to see some mindblowing storystelling. At least I don't since I already know what's going on. It's pretty much spoiled if you have ever heard of Baldur's Gate 2. So just play it for what it is and increase the difficulty. Contrary to zoomer opinions, these games are played for the combat. Real-time with pause even spawned Icewind Dale 1&2 just for the combat, so it's complete nonsense revisionism to claim it was always just an inconvenience.