Bonus points
- Remove ice moves from every single fricking water type for the freest coverage since gen 1
- Make it so no longer everyone and their mother learns u-turn, limit it to mostly bug types
- Make Megahorn a bug-type Flare Blitz.
- Make rock-moves accuracy uncucked when used by rock pokemon
- Make water weak to ice (and freeze dry remove water type from the target)
- Make ice resist water
- Make fairy weak to psychic and psychic immune to it
- Remove fairy’s bug resistance - Remove fire’s ice resistance and make bug and poison mutually super effective again, I like genwun
Make Hyper Beam work like it did in gen1 while at it, and always use your best offensive stat, then throw ultra impact or whatever is called in the trash.
>Make Water weak to Ice and Freeze Dry removes Water typing
That shit is genuinely moronic so long as Freeze Dry keeps its 70 BP. It’d turn a really cool move that’s also really good into one of the worst moves in the game.
Imagine a Flying type with Thunderbolt then suddenly it stops being Flying and now neutral to Electric.
Which one of them is bug supposed to be? Because last time I checked it sucked at both.
Which one of them is water supposed to be? Because last time I checked it exceeded at both.
>Type resistances? I wanted Ice Beam to do more damage! >”Type resistances helps offensive Ice types too” >Explain how! >”Resisting Water can be used to switch into water and ice attacks and gives you oppritunities to use your high damage attacks or set up”
Oh boy, I cannot wait for Ice autist to arrive here.
On the topic at hand, I'm fine witht the Ice changes.
For bug, I would orient the bug type to be more defensive, eliminate fairy and fighting's resistence to it, but keep the bug type resitent to fighting, and give it a resistance to fairy, give it also a resistance to dark.
Poison I'm fine with beign super effective against water, but that is the only chage I would make.
As for rock, I would eliminate Steel resistance to it. In fact I would take away steel's resistence itself, rock and psychic.
>Oh boy, I cannot wait for Ice autist to arrive here.
At this point it's not so my favorite Pokemon has less weakness but it's for his psychological destruction because he needs to sneed.
Oh wait I can just make Aurorus Ice/Electric if I ever made a ROM hack.
The types SHOULD NOT be balanced! >The types SHOULD NOT be balanced!
Comp is CRINGE! >Comp is CRINGE!
Ice is already overpowered in the only department that matters, SOVL! >They're COOL as frick!
What you're saying makes sense however immunity to taunt is not enough to make them good. Immunity to infatuation is a nothingburger but immunity to redirection is fricking huge. Even without any type effectiveness change, just that alone would make the good bugs actual options even in this super power creeped metagame. And by good bugs I mean Volcarona and Scizor and that's literally it.
pretty schizo but better than 90% of /vp/'s "opinions" aka ice should be broken just because
only thing i'd change is rock having a bit toi many resists
Ice resisting Water doesn't entirely make sense. Ice melts in Water if it's warm enough. i'm surprised there isn't a water type move that's super effective on Ice
Your approach is incorrect.
Make Poison super-effective against Normal, Fighting no longer super-effective against Normal
Make Ghost and Bug super-effective against Fairy
Make Rock super-effective against Electric
Make Rock and Ground resist Electric (no immunity)
Simple changes that make sense without going full autismo like you have If I have to see one more post about Poison "polluting" water or Ice resisting Water, I'm gonna lose it. You have lost the thread of how Pokemon matchups are "felt" and not "thought". If you need to explain your train of thought with WORDSWORDSWORDS, you've already lost.
Not reading any of this shit, but the fact that you took the time to add little wojaks and quotes for the Pokemon is so profoundly fricking embarrassing for someone who is ostensibly an adult human that I can't help but feel a little bit sad for you. Like a grown idiot playing with dolls. I implore you to seriously think before making a thread like this again, for your own health.
>his frostbite thread died so now he's making another thread about his moronic balance changes for a game he'll never actually play
Meds, now.
Bonus points
- Remove ice moves from every single fricking water type for the freest coverage since gen 1
- Make it so no longer everyone and their mother learns u-turn, limit it to mostly bug types
- Make Megahorn a bug-type Flare Blitz.
- Make rock-moves accuracy uncucked when used by rock pokemon
- Make water weak to ice (and freeze dry remove water type from the target)
- Make ice resist water
- Make fairy weak to psychic and psychic immune to it
- Remove fairy’s bug resistance
- Remove fire’s ice resistance and make bug and poison mutually super effective again, I like genwun
Make Hyper Beam work like it did in gen1 while at it, and always use your best offensive stat, then throw ultra impact or whatever is called in the trash.
>Make Water weak to Ice and Freeze Dry removes Water typing
That shit is genuinely moronic so long as Freeze Dry keeps its 70 BP. It’d turn a really cool move that’s also really good into one of the worst moves in the game.
Imagine a Flying type with Thunderbolt then suddenly it stops being Flying and now neutral to Electric.
Yeah it would make the move worse but at least it would keep some kind of gimmick
>it's the 7433rd "moron OP doesn't recognise some types are meant to be more offensive/defensive" episode
Which one of them is bug supposed to be? Because last time I checked it sucked at both.
Which one of them is water supposed to be? Because last time I checked it exceeded at both.
>Type resistances? I wanted Ice Beam to do more damage!
>”Type resistances helps offensive Ice types too”
>Explain how!
>”Resisting Water can be used to switch into water and ice attacks and gives you oppritunities to use your high damage attacks or set up”
moron
Heh
Oh boy, I cannot wait for Ice autist to arrive here.
On the topic at hand, I'm fine witht the Ice changes.
For bug, I would orient the bug type to be more defensive, eliminate fairy and fighting's resistence to it, but keep the bug type resitent to fighting, and give it a resistance to fairy, give it also a resistance to dark.
Poison I'm fine with beign super effective against water, but that is the only chage I would make.
As for rock, I would eliminate Steel resistance to it. In fact I would take away steel's resistence itself, rock and psychic.
>Oh boy, I cannot wait for Ice autist to arrive here.
At this point it's not so my favorite Pokemon has less weakness but it's for his psychological destruction because he needs to sneed.
Oh wait I can just make Aurorus Ice/Electric if I ever made a ROM hack.
Dark is only weak to bug because it’s a Kamen Rider reference. Making bug resist dark instead of neutral goes against the spirit of it.
>Doesn't make Dragon weak to Rock so Charizard will still take half it's health to Sneaky Pebbles even when Mega Charizard X
>No changes to Normal-type
It’s shit
The types SHOULD NOT be balanced!
>The types SHOULD NOT be balanced!
Comp is CRINGE!
>Comp is CRINGE!
Ice is already overpowered in the only department that matters, SOVL!
>They're COOL as frick!
>Rock becomes immune to Flinching
>Carbink with Mental Herb will have nearly unstoppable now
Bugs being immune to infatuation is just categorically anti-lore, bugs are some of the most mating-pheromone-enslaved creatures to exist.
In trade, I offer you immunity to Taunt. You can't play mind games with a bug.
What you're saying makes sense however immunity to taunt is not enough to make them good. Immunity to infatuation is a nothingburger but immunity to redirection is fricking huge. Even without any type effectiveness change, just that alone would make the good bugs actual options even in this super power creeped metagame. And by good bugs I mean Volcarona and Scizor and that's literally it.
Rock not being weak to Steel and bugs not being weak to Rock is moronic. You are simply grasping there. The other stuff was ok though.
Also if poison is SE on bugs how tf does it not resist it?
The same way bugs are SE on psychic but do not resist it? That interaction is not unique
Give me one good reason why rock should be strong against bug that doesn't work if you replace the word "bugs" with "tiny humans" or "tiny birds".
honestly not too bad
Make Bugs immune to flinch instead
and Rock types immune to critical hits
+OP's changes.
Contrary Shuckle is now unstoppable once it sets up with Shell Smash. Can Infestation literally everything to death.
you know that poison types not being poisoned and ice types not being frozen is already the case, right?
pretty schizo but better than 90% of /vp/'s "opinions" aka ice should be broken just because
only thing i'd change is rock having a bit toi many resists
Ice resisting Water doesn't entirely make sense. Ice melts in Water if it's warm enough. i'm surprised there isn't a water type move that's super effective on Ice
>LET'S SLAP FEATHERS ON MISDREAVUS AND CALL IT A NEW POKEMON!
paradox mons were a mistake
Your approach is incorrect.
Make Poison super-effective against Normal, Fighting no longer super-effective against Normal
Make Ghost and Bug super-effective against Fairy
Make Rock super-effective against Electric
Make Rock and Ground resist Electric (no immunity)
Simple changes that make sense without going full autismo like you have If I have to see one more post about Poison "polluting" water or Ice resisting Water, I'm gonna lose it. You have lost the thread of how Pokemon matchups are "felt" and not "thought". If you need to explain your train of thought with WORDSWORDSWORDS, you've already lost.
Bug SE into Fairy is my only request.
>making Ghost better
moron
>Making Ghost better
Yes
>moron
No
Ice should really, seriously be super effective vs water
Not reading any of this shit, but the fact that you took the time to add little wojaks and quotes for the Pokemon is so profoundly fricking embarrassing for someone who is ostensibly an adult human that I can't help but feel a little bit sad for you. Like a grown idiot playing with dolls. I implore you to seriously think before making a thread like this again, for your own health.