>Heard new Dragon Age coming out
>Maybe I should give DAI a chance
>Find out everything good about Origins were changed
>only interesting thing looks like Leliana and Morrigan
It's a destroyed franchise isn't it?
I guess new one will be another reboot
>It's a destroyed franchise isn't it
Imagine if every interesting idea was just mangled and then tortuously shoved into the game along with tons of dumbest shit you’ve ever seen.
dragon age is now a game for fat women
>now
I was 14 when origins came out and I had a 20something suicidegirl groomer i met on facebook shilling it to me. Hot chicks used to be into it too. Now its just fat uggos and homosexuals.
Game has it's fair share of problems, but overall, I enjoy it quite a bit.
This. It's a completely fine game for what it is, especially if you mod the rougher stuff out.
>especially if you mod the rougher stuff out.
Definitely.
An XP increase mod so you can skip a lot of the side "quests" is a must have.
All of Inquisition's DLCs were surprisingly good.
Expanded the setting in good ways.
no u
>Fortunately those grievances can be fixed with mods on PC but frick me I would hate the absolute shit out of the game if I had to do a pure vanilla playthrough
Yes, having to constantly update my PC's clock so I could get through all the wartable shit was not fun.
>not even a little bit.
You can enjoy whatever you want anony.
for a dumb wave after wave of monsters dlc they really packed descent full with lore (that of course will never get referenced ever again). Also the music was great. As were Valta and Ren
You mean "let's shit up existing Dwarf lore"?
it doesn't really shit it up
Frick off back to r*ddit you morons
I've spent 100 hours going through it last year.
I honestly wish I didn't. It can look decent and isn't really hardware intensive but that's unfortunately the best things I can say about it. Combat basically remains the same after the first 20% of the game. The story is whatever and I kinda found it funny that a DLC boss from DA2 is the main antagonist, I actually had to read up on that shit because I didn't give a shit about DA2 past its release. Characters range from horrible to OK with the OK ones being mostly recurrent characters.
And then there's all that shit with the gameplay where you're pretty slow, but you get a mount which is barely any faster than you are on foot, have to spam LS to be able to collect shit and if shit is slightly out of sight you won't get to see anything, and the horribly moronic wartable stuff. Fortunately those grievances can be fixed with mods on PC but frick me I would hate the absolute shit out of the game if I had to do a pure vanilla playthrough. At least the German voiceacting was fun, every male character had popular VAs that you'd know from movies and shit. My main party was basically Blade, The Rock, Teal'c and some other gay which made it kinda bearable.
This is why the next Dragon Age has to be terrible. People that aren't hyper soulless leftist bootlickers aren't allowed to enjoy things, not even a little bit.
>it’s ok if you like eating shit, just pretend it’s good ok?
The thing I despise the most about normalgays and people like is that they like the stuff I hate. It is inconceivable to me.
That’s Xis. As long as you enjoy dragon age inquisition your opinion is moot
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I get playing the game once, but what in the actual frick.
Based. I fricking hate that game but you do you, my good man.
You are sick and twisted
are you a woman (female)?
No I am a man (male)
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As was everything Bioware, the instant EA bought them out.
It's ridiculous how clear the difference is between before Ea and after Ea
Origins and ME1 were both OK and came out after EA bought them, didn't they? But I guess may have already finished much of development by the time EA got them.
NTA, but I don't recall an EA splash screen on ME, but I do know for sure that DA:O had one.
ME1 was before the takeover
DA:O was nearly complete when Bioware took over, DA2 was the first project under EA throughout (nine months of) development
Origins and ME2 released pretty close to one another, and both show the stain of EA's greed with the near dozen individual DLC's that came out for each
But this was still really early in the EA deal, it's likely ME2 and Origins were both being worked on long before being bought and a lot of the quality is retained, both ME2 and Origins are good games. It isn't until their sequels that the rot of EA fully sets in and revealed itself.
>near dozen individual DLC's that came out for each
That sounds like such a fricking headache. I played LE/complete editions of the games many years after their release, so never had to deal with this.
I still managed to enjoy DA:I somewhat but the next one is gonna be irredeemable garbage, if the netflex cartroon is anything to go by and I'm afraid it is
>It's a destroyed franchise isn't it
In the sense that the only good game was the first one, yeah
>I guess new one will be another reboot
Funnily enough it's not, it's to follows a ten year old cliffhanger where you pursue a bald elf around the world
how did it end? was the elf a double agent? i didnt get far. short and sweet if you please.
He is revealed to be Fen'Harel ie an Elvish god referred to as the Dread Wolf. And yeah, Dragon Age 4 is named Dragon Age: Dreadwolf.
Solas was the elf wolf god and he's evil and wants to kill everyone to save the elves
but i frick the elves. i guess im on his side now.
funny story - for being an elf supremacist he doesn't like modern elves. His goal is to MEGA (make elves great again) - i.e. kill everyone INCLUDING modern elves and free the ubermensch elves that are supposedly locked up somewhere in the fade or something. But also some of the trve elves are not locked up there and are actually guarding some ancient ruins, so maybe he's gonna kill them too, I dunno, it's really dumb
TLDR he's from the last surviving member of the ancient civilisation of True Elves who were locked away in the Fade, he set the entire events of DA:I in motion to open a big enough rift to the Fade to pull his entire country back out through it, which would destroy Thedas
At least that's how I remember it
Sort of but not exactly. He's the one who betrayed the old elves by creating the Veil in the first place. He now thinks that was a mistake and wants to undo it, but destroying the Veil will cause Thedas to fuse with the Fade returning the world to how it used to be in ancient times, which will largely destroy everything that exists now.
really? pragmatic advanced multiversal elf come to free his downtrodden dimensional brethren? where have I seen that before?
>It's baldovision: the game
How does PoE keep on winning?
>game has Morrigan and Toplel
>you can't romance either of them
>as a heterosexual man, your options are two NOEGGS women, one of whom is brown and the other of whom looks like she's trying to be as masculine as possible
and gaming has only gotten worse since then
People seem to think Dragon Age was destroyed by the sequel.
That is wrong.
Dragon Age Awakening, Expansion pack was already shit.
>>game has Morrigan
>>you can't romance either of them
She is already married to warden.
Do you want to cuck yourself?
How the frick would it even work?
It was? I remember liking Awakening, but I played it more or less at the same time as Origins. DA2 was really terrible on every single level.
DA2 improved in some regards
like?
Well the combat just felt a lot better and being more interesting visually, the art design also gives it a more unique look compared to the very generic look of DAO and most important character interaction. In both Origins and Inquisition it doesn't matter who you bring in companion's personal quests, but it does in the second game and which is a great improvement and I really wonder why that feature is missing in Inquisition.
just because the artstyle is more unique doesn't make it better. da2 looks like complete ass precisely because of its artstyle
Still an improvement over Origins
>we wanted to "hot-rod" the art!
DA2 makes me vomit
That anyone tries to defend any aspect of it makes me despair for humanity.
I'm not saying it's perfect, I'm not even saying it's great. All I'm saying is it improved in some areas, and if you can't see improvements then perhaps you're the one that causes despair for humanity.
And why are you using a promotional image that isn't even good
The combat is terrible in DA2 what are you talking about? Origins was perfect in this regard, probably the best RTWP game.
>the combat felt a lot better
>in DA2
>where all animations were weightless and combat was mindlessly mashing attack as enemies spawned in from the fricking sky
Opinion discarded.
Anyone with anything nice to say about DA2 should be put in a pillory.
DA2 is quite possibly the worst, laziest, shittiest game since fricking ET for Atari. It is offensively bad. It's so bad that the people who made it should be barred from any future creative endeavors.
>Weightless meme
Now there's an opinion that should be discarded, not only should it be discarded it should be ignored. We should pretend it never existed
Why am I writing this post? Why am I responding to a post that doesn't exist
Dragon Age 2 would have been good if it had been given a reasonable amount of time for development and EA hadn’t been meddling with things. It’s sad what happened there.
I don't know. I just couldn't get into it very much. Like I've beaten it, but it wasn't very memorable to me and felt boring. Only thing I remember you had a keep.
awakening did have some of the ideas that killed the series like the quirky companions (velanna sigrun) flanderizing the old characters (oghren) systems that seem like they do something but in reality do absolutely nothing (town management) but it was still the biggest thing that made dragon age dragon age: being dark fantasy. I Don't even think DA:I had a single lust demon or brood mother. I still think about how hard they fricked the tone of the series with that fricking sing-a-long when they're searching for the main hub in the game.
>systems that seem like they do something but in reality do absolutely nothing (town management)
it does do something. Your endings depend on how you've upgraded your town, as well as your judgements
>I Don't even think DA:I had a single lust demon or brood mother.
it didn't for obvious reasons
Yeah I remember it now. I played Awakening a few months before DA2. I started disliking Awakening even more after playing DA2, because as you've said issues seemed like have started there.
Weirdest thing was this guy. They changed his personality completely between the two. He is basically another character. He wasn't even important. Just create another character if you want another character. I didn't like his personality in both Awakening and 2.
NTA compared to Awakening? It felt more cohesive. Not that DA2 is cohesive
Yeah. They also felt bad in 2009.
No anon I specifically remember talking with other on graphics feeling very old. A friend's argument was it's an RPG game so you gotta cut some slack. Females and males share the same skeleton.
Inquisition had lust demons
>Inquisition had lust demons
where?
I don't recall one being relevant to the story but that they do show up in combat against demons
I'm talking about how the movement of the characters make the combat just feel better
>but that they do show up in combat against demons
I don't think they did, but even if there was an enemy called desire demon (which I'm still pretty sure there wasn't) it certainly didn't look anything like in dao because current year
I can only think of one and he became a generic reskin of another demon.
Nah Awakening was alright and sure as hell not anywhere near as bad as DA2 or DA:I
>How the frick would it even work?
Through playing with a world state where she didn't romance the Warden
>Dragon Age Awakening, Expansion pack was already shit.
I liked it because it makes my playthroughs longer. The only dlc I hated was dyke woman's song.
Josephine is cute, I don't care if she's brown
Problem with Josephine is that she's not a party member. It feels useless to romance characters that are not part of party.
Cassandra looks very weird. her face have very weird problems with modelling.
They didn't give a single proper romance option.
if there's one thing dai did right it's the non party member romance - they get just as much content as party members and are arguably better than many companions
You always could imagine that your white male warrior inquisitor that believes in order gets married to a young white noble lady capable of bearing many offspring for you.
dragon age 2 killed the setting, dragon age inquisition buried it. it's really just one mediocre CRPG that was pleasantly received because CRPGs weren't getting made at the time. DAO isn't terrible but every time i tried to go back to it it's not worth the time
this tbh, total Bioware death when? can't be much longer
It makes me very sad that Ganker completely lost the plot on why AAA games are bad: shitty publisher monopolies
I really want this game to work, but the only game in the series I like is 2. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it multiple times, and watched a ton of lets plays enjoying them too. At this point, I am waiting for an indie AA asset flip to release that is actually fun.
new Dragon Age coming out
It was delayed for the 4th time
DAO is infinity better. DAI just feels like a single player MMO. Just dull, scattered, repetitive fetch quests and unintuitive maps.
Anon DA:O was the only even slightly good one and it wasn't that good
Don't play Bioware games made after the hostile takeover. They all suck.
>Anon DA:O was the only even slightly good one and it wasn't that good
Yeah I tried going back a few times. I had trouble getting used to it back in 2009, as it felt clunky even back then. It just wasn't very good I guess.
Only good thing was Morrigan, and she's just a bad Lulu clone when you think about it.
Morrigan and Lulu both have black hair and use too many belts but that is where the similarities end. That's not a clone. Lulu isn't even a character anyway, just wikipedia with breasts
Both have a manner they talk down to others, but still respectful to a degree.
Both very strong black mages.
EA already made a FFX clone.
I know Bioware wasn't purchased back then, but it's not an oversell to think they were at least somewhat inspired by FFX. It was one of the most successful RPGs of that era.
Lulu had better personality. Morrigan at times was edgy for the sake of it.
>I know Bioware wasn't purchased back then
One of the main inspirations for BG2 was FF7, im not joking
Lulu only talks down to Wakka because he is a legit loser. She talks to Yuna like you woudl talk to a little sister
Morrigan's focus isn't black magic
Lulu has no real personality because 70% of her arc was cut anyway
It's ok to be wrong though
She dominates Wakka anon. And Wakka enjoys it. He still creates a family with her in the end.
It also feels like she's talking down to Tidus to an extend.
She isn't edgy as I've said.
Holy shit it felt so wrong how she had a kid with her dead husband's brother, who is also an idiot
muh clunky
homosexual
Inspiration was there but to me Lulu is at best a lame 0.2 alpha verson of Morrigan.
The frick you're talking about.
Lulu is a very Japanese onee-san with a hot coat of goth, sweet and caring for everyone in the party.
Morrigan is a smug b***hy troonyfaced girlboss too good for everyone unless you willingly subject yourself to be her complete begging simp.
They're nothing alike.
>Find out everything good about Origins were changed
And what was good about Origins? Because pretty much everything about Inquisition is an upgrade of Origins, granted with some added unnecessary elements
I liked Dragon Age 2.
I'm just gonna say how it is. DAO+2 had some good stuff that needs to be made again. DA2 had Rival and Friendship romance variations. That's a pretty cool idea.
>DA2 had Rival and Friendship romance variations
it was the only good thing about da2 and it's insane that no one ever again tried to implement that, not even bioware themselves
The concept of having an entire game in a single city is really cool, I wish another studio would try that some time (seeing the city evolve, seeing how it changes based on your choices, etc).
But DA2 was a horrible attempt at that, it's beyond cheap and repetitive.
> the enemies fricking spawn from the top of the buildings and join the fight with a jump like it was a shitty episode of the Power Rangers
> the fricking same cave and building interiors, over and over again
> almost no chance to roleplay beyond "edgy hawk" and "polite hawk"
> the game had little to no variation in choice and consequence
I will never forgive them making that game a sequel to origins
I genuinely do not give a shit about the corners they cut for the low development time. Japanese games do that shit all the time and no one ever complains because they've always done it.
>Japanese
probably because theyre worked like slaves. thats illegal here in America
No, because they work with lower budgets and put the money where it matters.
>Virgin burger: NOOO! You can't just have enemies drop out of thin air! That's UNREALISTIC!
>Chad Japan: lol it's a video game, who cares if it's realistic
The problem with enemies spawning out of thin air is not "realism"
It's that the game is built around tactical positioning and preparing for combat but you can't fricking make tactical positioning decisions when enemies spawn out of thin air and teleport
Of course you can. You just have to bear in mind that you might have to reposition and heal after the current wave. Sitting in one place for the whole fight is boring anyway.
>Reposition
>After the wave when there is nothing to position against
You're moronic
wut? You reposition against the wave that just dropped.
When a wave has dropped it's too late to set up tactical positions, you're already engaged.
I don't think you understand what tactical positioning is, which is understandable because you played DA2 and nothing is required of you in that game except mashing attack
Play DA:O.
I've played them all, dipshit. Them and practically every other RPG ever made.
Just remember to not overspend your resources when you're about to finish a wave so you can use crowd control and move your squishies.
>I've played every rpg alive!
>What the frick is a tack tick?
At this point I do have to ask what the frick you think "tactical" means because you stopped making sense.
>I don't understand what tactical positioning is
I know
Tactical positioning is when you place your pieces in locations that provide then with advantages. In this context it would mean things like placing an archer on an elevated position, forming front and back lines, placing PCs to intercept priority targets or match targets with the right PC, and most importantly preventing encirclement. In a game like DA:O or BG3 the places you out your men before a battle starts are very important.
In DA2 enemies literally spawn out of the air in a ring around you on flat ground.
That just means you have to bear that in mind and not leave your units in places from which they cannot retreat if more enemies drop on top of them.
It doesn't eliminate tactical considerations, only changes them.
I accept your concession.
>Multiple people are calling me moronic, making me the victor!
Multiple people are wrong, yes.
I hate this shit so much in nearly every game that does it.
>See enemies ahead
>Take stock of their numbers and position
>Develop a plan for how to tackle this encounter
>Half way through the fight, a previously uninteractable door opens up behind me
>15 new guys come running through it
It's one thing if it's meant to be an ambush or "gotcha!" moment, but when this is just standard fare for encounter design, it makes me want to just turn my fricking brain off.
>Japanese games do that shit all the time and no one ever complains because they've always done it
da2 had less effort put into hiding those cut corners than a fricking neptunia game
Don't expect Bioware to make the effort to create a rich, complex story with multiple choices and dilemma like Origins or BG3. They'll settle for the basic with a linear story with two fake dilemmas that ultimately don't matter
It's the best Dragon Age.
Its in FF8 position where it gets ragged on for being shit but its actually kinocore.
It is not the best DA. That is Origins.
But I do like 2 better than 3 by a lot. The empty open maps of 3 suck and so does the inquisitor. DA:I was too much of a response to the backlash of 2.
Also, FF8 is not bad either. I feel like that is a modern take which is based on it not being FF7-2.
everyone has the hots for morrigan, but goddamn I'd rail that flemeth every night
never post again
DA2 has some good points, but it fails at some crucial aspects like encounter design and recycling locations.
Dragon Age 2 was a great game done poorly. DA:I was a poor game done great. DA2 is infinitely more infuriating because it could have been amazing; DA:I is about as good as it ever could have been (and it's not very good).
But yes, I liked 2 the best in the series too.
we all did anon
I don't want Dreadwolf. I don't want to see my companions getting old. I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT ;-; MAKE IT STOP. AAAAIIIEEE!!
>desire demon looks like a troony in drag
dao graphics are really bad
at the time it was pretty good, didn’t age well though.
will probably be the same for bg3.
i almost finished this game on ps3 but it had this bug that would cause a crash if you did anything while the game was autosaving, which it did constantly so it became a game of always looking at the corner of the screen for the tiny swirling autosave icon so you could stop moving/interacting at all and wait for it to finish.
bioware actively decided to not fix this bug and just let the ps3 version die and so I’ll never play another bioware game again. they couldve just given an option to disable autosave, frick them.
hasn’t Dreadwolf been in development since before anthem even released?
what the frick is bioware doing? dragons dogma 2 is releasing in a month and it’s only been in full dev since like 2020.
don't expect anything good from Dreadwolf anons
>what the frick is bioware doing
putting people like this in leadership positions. goes as well as you'd expect
why are they all autistic male nerds
>that pronouns
>that flag
>that Lives matter
>that lgbtwkdjnaskldajwie title
>that my opinion is my opinion
HOLLY FRICK
Corinne Bussy
Seriously, why are all these people in the video game industry? And I don't think it's only an American thing.
Bigger problem with Bioware is there's NO ONE left who could take charge. These aren't second or third choices, they're from the bottom of the barrel.
Talented and smart people are on much better paying jobs. What you got left for the big corpos who are foremost running a business instead of making games are these
This dude's bio looks like one of the "so far over the top" ones people make up as rage bait. It's only missing a Ukraine+Palestine flag
Welp, at least I didn't get my hopes up to begin with
This franchise baffles me. I never saw an IP come out so strong and then have any of its remaining few good ideas be used in a shitty sequel and then it just was never able to get its footing ever again. Its a dead series as far as I'm concerned.
>I never saw an IP come out so strong and then have any of its remaining few good ideas be used in a shitty sequel and then it just was never able to get its footing ever again
bioshock, deus ex, mirror’s edge, dark souls, mass effect
You could argue that there are entries that come close to the original in all of those. Bioshock 2 is not as inherently bad as DA2, Deus Ex' reboot might not be as strong as the original but they're competent (I don't care that Hbomber made people hate them) and the hate for Souls games is very exaggerated.
ME2 is nowhere near as good as ME1 but the series was somewhat competent.
Dark Souls 3 was better than 1 though. Way more good bosses, less clunky movement. Nothing about 1 was even good from the moment you reach AL
What happened behind the scenes is extremely simple.
Bioware, the actual Bioware led by the two doctors, was making Dragon Age as a spiritual successor and update to their old Baldur's Gate games. Just before it was about to be completed EA staged a hostile takeover by purchasing a large share of stock from the company and then purchasing an entire stock holdings company just to take their stock and hit majority ownership of Bioware. They rushed DA:O out the door and then took the small team that was starting to work on the planned DLC and told them they had a year to turn their still-in-planning DLC into a standalone game, which became the nightmare that is DA2.
By the time DA:I was in development the entire studio had been completely turned over and was just a branch of EA.
Anon it takes five seconds to find gameplay footage on youtube, weightless isn't conveying how shitty the animations are well enough. The c**ts making the game literally said the combat should boil down to "press button do awesome." have a nice day.
>it improved in some areas
It objectively did not. DA2 models were literally unfinished. People in town didn't have fricking face textures. Everyone is low poly. There is precisely ONE female body rig that everyone from your elderly mother to the biggest bawd in town uses. I'm sorry but you're fricking blind.
>EA staged a hostile takeover
How are these even possible? Like, bro, just don't sell your stock.
You don't always have a say in the option, if you even have an option. But if I'm not mistaken back then EA didn't have the same reputation as it does now so back it it was seen as a good deal
>Andromeda
Shame what happened to, best gameplay in the mass effect series.
>DA2 models were literally unfinished. People in town didn't have fricking face textures. Everyone is low poly. There is precisely ONE female body rig that everyone from your elderly mother to the biggest bawd in town uses. I'm sorry but you're fricking blind.
You will notice that I didn't mention any of that as area of improvement and don't pretend that the previous game isn't guilty of some of that as well
>I didn't mention those improvements!
You didn't mention any improvements. Because there are none.
Take a long walk off a short pier
IIRC the owners of Bioware sold stock to a VG stock holding company that was supposed to help out independent developers. It was founded by people that left Ubisoft pissed off about big publishers.
EA negotiated with them to sell EA a non-majority share in the company by offering an insane price, then bought the holding company for way more than it was worth.
>You didn't mention any improvements. Because there are none.
Character interactions and how bring characters impacts quests is not a improvement?
They're not a graphical improvement you twat
>the character interactions were better!
Anon every character in DA2 that isn't Varrik is one of the most obnoxious motherfrickers I've ever seen in any game. I want to throttle Isabel. I want to murder Meryll. I want to put Anders in a Silence of the Lambs dungeon. They all suck harder than any companions in any other RPG in existence.
Only Anders is more annoying than Zevran, frick that c**t
No. Zevran is the most annoying out of any companion in the series. Only slightly worse than Iron Bull.
Zevran is best boy and I frick him every time and then go on an adventure with him
good for you. I kill him.
The Qunari were the saving grace in DA2, and if it wasn't for them, I would not have completed the game. Infuriates me they decide to frick all of that over for a troony that makes no sense. Why cant devs just do a Mulan instead of mental illness? But he's just a fricking boring character. His dudebro voice acting, his hedonistic homosexualry, the contradiction within his own character, and the constant circlejerking of how cool he is
Iron bull killed all of the lore that the qunari built over 2 titles with his stupid shit and squad. Atleast zevran was always a piece of shit and he knew it instead of being "well actually Im super virtuous and accepting despite my people being massively unaccepting!"
Anon you're so blinded that you can't even keep track of the conversation, the change in art design and character interaction was two of the improvements I mentioned. When you refused to the graphics improvement and said that I didn't mention any improvements then I bought up the characters.
But not in character specific quest, for example in Origins you can bring Sten, Anders and Leliana when you go to kill Morrigan's mom and they won't say anything. In Inquisition again no companion says anything in companion's quest.
But in DA2? Bring Anders and Solas when doing Meridts (Was that her name?) Side quest and see how they interact during it and how it's different to what the other companions would say
>y-you can't keep up!
You're ESL on top of being a blind homosexual
>they added context lines!
That's not new to DA2 nor is it a large improvement
It's time to stop posting.
I'm ETL actually, how is that relevant? Again try to keep track of the conversation or follow your own advice and stop posting
Alistair doesn't say shit , nobody does in Origins. Yes I might have oversold the impact part but when DA2 takes so many step backs you really have to highlight the few things it does well
>How is not being fluent in english relevant?
Because you're confidently claiming other people aren't following the conversation when it's you that's lost.
Try out some concrete water moccasins.
Well you aren't following and are now shifting the blame
Now how about you don't do a hyper specific zoom one a npc you're never going to see or pay attention to. Why don't you do the same to Origins?
I think you do if you don't want to end being a bitter jackass like the post above yours
Hamburger Hepler?
Is that you?
Sure is, lost 40 kg since Dragon age 2 and started lifting weights that aren't hamburgers to my mouth. I don't even buy them anymore, I make it myself and I even slaughter the cows myself
>you really have to highlight the few things it does well
You really don't, and it doesn't do anything well.
There is no reason to give DA2 praise or credit of any kind whatsoever.
Not even the people who made it actually like it.
>There is no reason to give DA2 praise or credit of any kind whatsoever.
rival/friendship relationships
Was going to say this, DA2 had the best companion mechanics of any DA game is its saving grace with the story
Again, that's just banter, non of it impacts quests. And some character do react to character specific quests. Alistair for example will chime in if you bring him to "kill my mom" quest in origins
Original had generic fantasy design. It had some great memorable designs here and there, but overall wasn't very impressive.
I agree second game has more original art style. Main issue is it doesn't have that much memorable designs.
Which character or area do you think is the most interesting in DA2?
As for banter, its just budget.
That is not even remotely what DA2 looks like you disingenuous c**t
I wasn't saying it looks good. Does that concept I shared looks good to you? It's generic. I said it doesn't look memorable.
Anon is right in that it was more original compared to first game. Doesn't mean they created something good.
What I'm saying is original game has more generic art style but has some interesting designs.
Second game tries have an original art style, but doesn't create anything memorable with it.
>It was more original!
You aren't saying anything.
I don't care to read the rest of this conversation but I just want to say, much as I enjoyed DAO I couldn't get over the fricking super market brand tier art direction. The most generic of generic western fantasy slop, complete with WoW shoulderpads and no identity.
>bring characters impacts quests
but it doesn't impact quests. characters have quest specific banter, but that was always the case not just in da2.
That's because the biggest bawd in town is actually your mom. It's a story arc that was cut for time.
>They rushed DA:O out the door and then took the small team that was starting to work on the planned DLC and told them they had a year to turn their still-in-planning DLC into a standalone game, which became the nightmare that is DA2.
I think that was Awakening. DA2 was also rushed. Inon Zur talked about DA2's rush I think. His main theme is still great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ5S8vs2n0U
Combat was just button mashing I agree. There's no reason to praise DA2's combat.
I remember reading they are basically trying to make it into a Souls like series more focused on combat. All people from DAI apperently left.
Honestly, I don't think it's a bad idea at this point. When every game has a lot of retcons it's not even a series to begin with. Let them try whatever they try. What's the worst that could happen.
kek
It's obvious they took a lot of inspirations from FFX.
Morrigan as Lulu.
Leliana as a more grounded Rikku in a dark fantasy setting.
Alistar as Tidus? This is overstretching, but I'm not saying they copied him. It could work as an inspiration.
>that was awakening
Origins is Awakening. The title is "Dragon Age Origins: Awakening"
>DA2 was also rush
That's what I was talking about. DA2 was a DLC-in-planning for the first game and EA forced them to go from DLC-planning to a full 60 dollar game release in about 9 months of work.
I don't know why they would focus on combat when it was never this series strong point (even in Origins)
its clear that people like cinematics and talking to characters and making choices
its a style of rpg that only returned with BG3, and its success showed that there was massive market for it, and even horrible Inquisition was better written moment to moment than BG3
>I don't know why they would focus on combat when it was never this series strong point
Because they had 9 months to make a full game from half a script intended to be used for about 5 hours of DLC content.
The game is literally unfinished. The combat systems were built around positioning and aggro management but they didn't have time to actually build encounters so enemies fricking spawn from the sky in waves to pad the game's runtime.
we are talking about dreadwolf, its been in development for like 7 years but knowing modern gamedev it wouldn't suprise me if they sat with their thumbs in their asses for 6 years and hastily threw together an alpha when EA threatened to shut them down
apparently last year the main questline was playable, but no side content. LOL
this game is gonna be a mess, unless they delay it AGAIN. oh and I didn't even mention the massive layoffs. How are they gonna do anything meaningful with just a fraction of the staff?
Dreadwolf was originally gonna be a live service
fricking hilarious, glad EA is irrelevant outside of sports games now
I think they lost faith in the franchise. Souls is popular. This is EA we are talking about. None of the original writers still remains I think.
They are giving it a one last chance. I guess franchise will die if it fails.
Lulu is life. Lulu will straighten you up if you fail at life like Wakka. She doesn't give up on you. She is always there for you. Morrigan is an edgy b***h.
Morrigan is just acting cold plus she is a great mom. Lulu wore a tight corset during pregnancy.
>Morrigan is just acting cold plus she is a great mom.
Of course she is I married her for a reason.
>Lulu wore a tight corset during pregnancy.
Ok you've won. I can't talk against this.
To this day men don't have pregnancy fetish because Square didn't want to spend money money on pregnant Lulu model.
>he thinks he married Morrigan
You married a centuries-old dragon that took over your waifu's body when you weren't looking
>He thinks I'm not into dragons.
Anon I...
>Lulu will straighten you up if you fail at life like Wakka. She doesn't give up on you. She is always there for you
I'm tired, lads
You want a mother, not a GF
>its clear that people like cinematics and talking to characters and making choices
The Banner Saga is a better Dragon Age than Dragon Age. It features a lot of talking and choices. and the combat is actually great for a change
>Banner Saga is a better Dragon Age
I don't like RPGs that force me to play a preset character. If I wanted that I'd just play a JRPG.
Better question: Why did we have to be related to them at all? The family drama in DA2 sucked. Why couldn't we just be a random merc fleeing Ostagar?
>I don't like RPGs that force me to play a preset character.
that's too bad. The Banner Saga is excellent in its story, world building, characters and gameplay
>The Banner Saga is excellent in its story
I heard the third game kind of falls flat. I did play the first one years ago and loved it though. Sacrificed Rook in the end.
it kinda does, yeah, but only compared to the first two. it's still miles better than 99% of rpgs that have been released in the past decade
If it was such a success then why is Stoic making a sidescrolling action game?
>quality of the game=number of sales
I'm not reading your blog post, homosexual.
>A PARAGRAPH!? Frick that off!
>a sente-
>game has a quest that lets you frick a young elf's girlfriend in one of their caravan before telling him what you did
uhm.. based?
You can cuck her and gay frick the guy instead
I thought you could only frick the guy if your character is female. In any case, cucking elves is the thinking man's fetish. What other games let me cuck homosexual elves?
Inquisition is good though. You have not played it didnt you?
The sole reason I was looking forward to DA4 was a new Morrigan model to fap to but she won't even be in it. There is sincerely not a reason in the world why this game would even come out. Not even the Solaswives faction that probably consisted of 30+yo stay at home moms remember Solas now so this whole story simply has no audience left to care.
its kinda crazy how hard BG3 destroyed any hope of Dreadwolf for Bioware. The one Dragon Age youtuber left (a 30+yo stay at home mom TERF who loves Solas, as you mentioned) got mad at all the troon propoganda in the DA Netflix show and disavowed Bioware, now she's a full time Astarion tuber
Bioware is gonna get hit hard again, just like Anthem, and just like Andromeda. Vying for an audience that has long left them for products that do it better
Was it the lore auntie with the elven name? I don't even remember any other BW youtubers
Was thinking of this one, maybe I misremembered some details, I would be suprised if there wasn't others in a similar situation tho
https://www.youtube.com/@Mmogurl/videos
The one I meant is still active. I guess she has a monopoly on making vids for this dead franchise then
https://www.youtube.com/@GhilDirthalen/videos
I'm sure there's a bunch of trannies on twitter that will cheer on the development and then not buy the game though.
>but she won't even be in it
What
Jesus fricking christ. She is the only character left from DA that isn't potentially dead yet that even has some noterierty left in 2024
I loved DAO, but the other two games of the series are beyond trash (I couldn't even go past the first part of Inquisition when I tried to force myself to do it).
I would love a DAO2, but Bioware has been dead for decade and a half, and it's clear that the new guys want to do any kind of game BUT another Origins.
BG3 is a better Bioware game than Bioware ever even came close to making
BG3 is good but pales in comparison to DA:O or KotOR or BG or BG2
As much as I love KOTOR and any 3.5-like you're being ridiculous.
BG3 is vastly superior to DA:O
Yeah, BG3 was basically the modern CRPG I imagine Bioware was eventually going to make.
Thank god for those belgian nerds, after even CDRP dropped the ball, I felt like AAA rpgs where going to enter a dark age.
What did you love about Origins and what was missing from it in Inquisition?
Quests that didn't feel like something from a single player MMO.
A decent story that isn't "OMG! Your hand is glowing! You are our supreme leader now!"
A cool cast of companions.
The gameplay was simple but fun and interesting. Fights didn't felt or looked like a japanese sentai scene.
Probably many other things that I forgot with the years since I played it, but that was mainly it.
It didn't felt like I was playing a game that was the passion project of bunch of developers, but like a game made by force that was trying to waste my time.
Being a dark fantasy and having more than 8 skills per character just off the top of my head.
Also not being a single player MMO.
Crpg.
Setting companion tactics
Different types of magic available beyond damage
Logical magic combos
Choosing attributes as you level up.
Ability to swap between two weapon sets during battle.
Each and every item in Origins had a lore description for flavor. Inquisition had none. Maybe 3 or 4 on some unique items.
You can speak to companions while outside of camp.
It was destroyed with Dragon Age 2
HERE IS RINE
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>generic boring fantasy story
>Tolkien story remains strong to this day
>Rowling and Meyer stuff goes downhill because of author moronation
That is indeed funny
But what's funnier is saying that (the works of) Stephanie Meyer "bridges all demographics in appeal"
That's just so incredibly stupid.
It'd be like someone on here saying "I wanted to make something like Senran Kagura, something that appeals to every demographic!"
man, old bioware forums sure were something
The joke is that Hepler is 10 times better than what is writing the games now. She wrote Qunari in DA2, not Qunari homosexuals in Cisquisition.
She also wrote the whole Brood Mother storyline in DAO, which was kino.
People really took her for a feminazi only because she looked like one.
I don't know man, worse than that is the "why do games force me through the playing segments?!" part, pretty fricking ridiculous. She sounds like she's in the wrong industry - or should just do Telltale games or easy text adventures
it's not like she was in charge of gameplay. she was just a writer for frick's sake, so let her write. she wasn't bad at it
Can't Kim nuke them already?!
Hamburger Herper is bannu
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Not surprised it died. Any company that gets bought by EA gets fricked. The franchise will never, ever be something else as long EA lives.
Normal men say that DA2 was a terrible sequel to DA:O and ruined Bioware.
Truly enlightened men say that ME2 was a terrible sequel to Mass Effect and ruined Bioware.
>ME2
>Terrible
>Not ME3
REMEMBER SPACE FRICKING CHILD ?
ME3 was fricking horrendous to be sure, but ME2 being a gears of war cover shooter with no build variety and a global cooldown on powers was really shitty.
Based. ME1 was a loveletter to 80s-90s science fiction like TNG and Babylon 5.
ME2 was a loveletter to casual normies, capeshit and Star Wars.
nah. Me2 was good
Controversial, but I 100% agree with you.
ME2 it's when you start seeing Bioware deviating from the games they love making.
It also when they went with light RPG mechanics.
I mean yes, the suicide mission and how much it changed based on companions loyalty and stupid decisions was fun...but thats it, the game it's basically a cool cast and a cool final quest, the rest is pretty bland compared to ME1 (both gameplay and story wise).
>the suicide mission and how much it changed based on companions loyalty and stupid decisions was fun...but thats it
It also was retroactively made much worse by the fact that nothing you did in it matters for ME3.
it kinda did.
You could get full support from Krogans after betraying them with Mordin, or use the New Salarian guy to get it with no blood on your hands. so to speak. Can't get both Geth and Quarians. There's also little easter eggs, like Morinth being at the end of the Asari school mission. I think its impossible to get full galaxy map approval, or whatever it was called, if you didnt save everyone. Barring Multiplayer of course.
>Can't get both Geth and Quarians
Yes you can
without Tali and Legion?
No you need both and even then you can screw up and only get one specie.
It baffles my mind that people think ME1 is any ways superior to ME2
If you wanted a decent story then why are you playing Dragon age origins
BG3 only has so many options because they spent several years in early access while implementing feedback from the players during development, but only for act one. You will notice that your choices gets smaller in act 2 and 3
>BG3 only has so many options because they spent several years in early access while implementing feedback from the players during development, but only for act one. You will notice that your choices gets smaller in act 2 and 3
There are more impactful choices in act 2 than in the entirety of DA2 and DAI. And I'm not saying BG3 is flawless at all
Imagine thinking a game ruined a company/studio.
It's the other way around, moron. The game was ruined, or just poorly made, by the studio. This was fricked by EA, but that's their problem for selling their souls to the devil.
DAI is fine but the game has shitty mechanics like AI generated fetch quests, shitty skill tree, no healing spells, only 8 to 12 health potions for the entire party for some reasons, the companions are barely written (after the final boss they all become empty shells), the real ending is a DLC, no impactful choice besides two or three, enemies respawn so quick in an area you've just cleaned, Corypheus is a terrible villain, the game is beautiful but feels empty with no real content besides the dragon bosses
dreadwolf would be kino if they take the time to make a game as complex as BG3 or TW3, but they're gonna settle for cyberpunk or assassin's creed in terms of quality
Unironically BG3 killed any interest I had in Dragon Age Origins. I don’t think I could ever go back to the latter
the exact opposite for me. i genuinely hate the bg3 companions. even shadowheart was getting annoying with her little headbob stacy act and inconsistent morality.
BG3 companions are worse than the best DA companions, but better than the worst DA companions
Seriously, I would take a million Gales over Sera and Iron Bull and Anders
the only bg3 companions I liked were astarion and laezel. gale grew on me as time went on, but i never came to love him. the rest were dreadful. bg3 has probably the worst cast of character in any rpg i've ever played
I don't know which leak you're talking about but some are available on youtube and it shows that dreadwolf is gonna be another action-adventure RPG with barely any RPG in it
NTA but I've seen the nu-GoW clone footage and frankly development for DA4 has apparently been scrapped and restarted so many times that it could really be anything. With the blow-out success of BG3, it might be that Bioware consider actual CRPGs to be viable again (but really only a mark would bet on it)
Missed out on Minthara my dude.
I agree though that Lae’zel and Astarion trounce their contemporaries though. I really regret romancing Shadowheart over Lae’zel, she’s hot but such a wet blanket.
i was doing a female elf mage run on dao but my computer is fricked and won't get fixed for another week
Leliana?
hot
if youre asking who im romancing no, its alistair. i havent finish the game yet and im only playing it now because i was 9 when it released.
kek that was my original guess, I shouldve stuck with it
well, have fun, fren. The content for him is nearly nonexistent in Dragon Age 2 and Inquisition, so if you're going to binge all through with the same character, I'd recommend Leliana or Morrigan.
im fine with that tbtbh but i'll consider doing a second run with a male warden if i feel like picking it up again after my first playthrough.
Origins was also shit.
the next DA has been restarted from scratch multiple times now. who knows if its ever coming out or what kind of game itll be
nobody has posted that alpha footage gif from Dreadwolf
The one with the flying knee
Has it been lost to time?
what the frick were they thinking with the moronic dragon age keep
They were thinking "I WANT MONEY MORE MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY"
*sigh*
I tried to play inquisition four times and I never got very far. It gets worse the further you make it
I want to play it to see the Morrigan and Leliana, but I'm starting to think it might be better to just watch cutscenes.
I'm playing DA:O for the first time right now, and it's the best RPG I've played. Sucks knowing that the sequels don't live up to it.
Although the gameplay, especially controlling the party often ends up being a hassle, so I understand the attempts at stremlining combat.
The stories, characters and lore in Origins is fricking fantastic.
The real flaw of DAO is the gameplay. A turn based combat would have been better. But the rest is fantastic.
I prefer RTWP for Origins actually, since you can easily change perspective, and part of the fun is setting up tactics so that battles are smooth and fast-paced.
One major issue is the companion AI, which is greatly improved with setting up tactics, but can still end up requiring tedious micromanagement. Archers may keep firing arrows even though their view is blocked, so you have to move them but the be careful not to move other party members... and so on. I don't even want to know how poorly it plays on a console.
And a combat log would be great. It's sometimes hard to keep track if a spell was resisted or not, for example.
I've tried all classes, but now I'm going warrior, since it feels appropriate for the story, being a leader and all.
I'm interested in playing the sequels, if I have the time. I've heard DA2 has some padding with trash fights, so I'd be interested in modding it out.
But yeah, I'd like to follow the story and the world further.
What's your Warden?
If you finish it and really end up enjoying, I'd recommend give the sequels a try. I am of the same general opinion neither 2 or 3 is as good as the original but I don't think they're the hot garbage they're made out to be either, gameplay changes drastically between all three (and not always for the better) but I think the story's pretty solid throughout and it's fun playing a full three-game playthrough seeing your choices shape Thedas game to game.
I have never played through the games without all of the companions at my side. Next time I play I plan on playing in a way that at least some die or otherwise don't get recruited as to build a tighter party.
Which companions in DA have the most interesting deaths, or scenarios in the case they don't get recruited? Or which are just plain boring enough in your opinion to not bother getting recruited?
Shale, Sten and Zevran feels like most useless
Oghren after them
Wynne after him
Alistair, Leliana and Morrigan are the main characters really.
It's obvious they've written Morrigan as the main love interest.
>leliana
she doesn't add anything
Who do you think is more important than her? Other than Alistair and Morrigan of course. You need 4 people for proper party. Dog?
Alistair, Morrigan, and Leliana are the only ones worth a damn. Wynne dies off-screen, Oghren is only there in awakening. Zevran is seen for one single cutscene in DA2 being his usual homosexual bawd self. Sten is mentioned only in passing dialogue. Shale does not exist beyond Dragon Age Origins.
You can kill her during the Sacred Temple and is used for a split second in DA2 and is a main character in DAI.
>being his usual homosexual bawd self
he got a whipping from my warden after that and never cheated on her again
i'd take the dog or wynn who at least was involved in ostagar and the mage circle AND has reactivity in the ashes temple too
In DAO, I'd say go for recruiting everyone and then either betraying them or pissing them off to the point of fighting you to the death. You can betray Zevran, Leliana and Alistair for Loghain, then sacrifice the later because why not. And you can piss off Zev and the Qunari, and Shale the golem in the dwarven quesline, not sure if Oghren too. As for not recruiting, you can miss everyone except Morrigan, Leliana and Alistair I think, not sure about the old lady. Not sure either if you can piss off Oghren to a fight but try if you like. Ofc keep in mind what you party needs, if you don't play a healer you might want to keep Wynne or make your character one, and you usually need a rogue in your party to open locks.
In DA2, you can betray Fenris and Isabella in cool ways, and let the Elf girl anhero. Varric and Aveline are a must I think, although you can make sure the latter turns into a lonely cat lady by fricking her romance intentionally which is pretty sweet. Not sure if you can tell Anders to frick off at any time, I think not. Or maybe you can but he comes back? And you can just not recruit Sebastien.
Don't know about DAI, only beat it once.
No, you can leave Leliana behind at Lothering.
Really? Doesn't she just follow you later?
Going without a rogue early on would be missing too many chests if you don't play one, wouldn't recommend it.
there ain't shit worth lockpicking in 95% of chests
Doesn't matter, I need to know what's in there, even if it's just 1% chance of good stuff.
Yeah, she'll bombard you at the bridge where you leave, after walking past Sten's gate. You can tell her to frick off there. It's mentioned in-game at the credits she left Lothering behind trying to save as many people as possible.
Liliana attacked me for having a mage in my party and got murdered.
For everything Bioware says DA was clearly never intended to go beyond Origins. Yeah, there's a lot of hooks and shit, but even that game's DLC was weak. Fact DA2 and DAI have nothing to do with it just proves the point further.
I know it wouldn't be a big hit, but I have wanted a DA:O where the Male Human Noble was basically Commander Shepard.
While I think Dwarf Noble is the best Origin in the game, Human Noble just seems the natural fit for the main character and even their trailers agree.
After that, we'd get a second Dragon Age with the Human Noble curing the Darkspawn taint.
Maybe it's the fault of Mass Effect, but I have always hated that DA didn't follow our first Character.
No matter the Origin you picked, the Hero of Ferelden has always seemed way cooler than Hawke and especially The Inquisitor.
Sarcastic Hawke is great. It's just that, conceptually, you had a defined MC who wasn't defined ENOUGH to really carry the show with its own personality while taking away from self-insert potential a blank slate has.
>and even their trailers agree
And then Bioware's comics followed the blandest of all origin stories with no romance and basically 0 interesting interactions. God those guys are moronic
>oghren makes lewd comments towards your female party members
>"what a sexist scumbag I'm so glad Bioware has moved on from that kind of character"
>zevran does the same exact thing and in leliana's case he's even more aggressive
>wow he's such flirt I love him
Why are they like this
Zevran is hot and his sexual advances are desirable
Oghren is a fat, smelly drunkard with less sex appeal than a turnip
>Oghren is a fat, smelly drunkard with less sex appeal than a turnip
Yeah, and that's why I wanted my pretty little Elf to get FAT BASTARD'D by him
Warden, have I ever told you about the Aqun-Athlok? In your tongue it would be referring to one "born as one gender but living like another.
member when the Warden's eyes glowed in the trailer? whatever happened to that? I thought Warden's would have some special paladin powers but all they had was resistance to the Taint
Well, if the trailer warden was an Arcane Warrior, with a big focus on the Warrior part, then the glowing eyes would just be Aura of Might. Warden in the trailer is named Malcolm, same as Hawke's dad so... Or they just did cool stuff only for the trailers.
lol I forgot all about Templar which is probably what the tailer Warden is.
wtf hawke's dad is a chad
Sten I farted on your sword before I gave it back to you. I thought you should know.
>Aqun-Athlok
>tfw when looking for qunari term for troon I find out Krem got a wikipedia page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krem_(Dragon_Age)
lmao
Sten. Shut the frick up.
Love Morrigan, simple as. The cucks comparing her to Shadowbawd from Baldur's Gate baffle me.
Larian wishes they could write 10% as well as prime Bioware
BG3 companions are basically discount DA:O characters.
I was so open for Shadowheart to impress me. It's not even close to Morrigan. It's almost embarrassing to even bother comparing them.
Whatever. Maybe there is still 60% or more of her story left in Act 3 or something. What I've seen so far is just ok and probably only because I was so willing to be convinced
Remember when Grey Wardens were actually cool instead of the literal morons we got in Inquisition.
Blackwall was cool by proxy because everyone else was a special snowflake. Being a boring swordsmen made him stand out. I also rather liked his DARK SECRET.
You mean the only cool grey warden was a guy who wasn't actually a grey warden?
That kid...
He's mine. Hands off.
Please anon, Morrigan is a better mom than that, she wouldn't do such a thing as keeping Kieran all to herself, she knows he has to meet other girls, she would share him around
I liked Duncan and Strahd as well as those grey wardens from Warden's Peak, and the senechal from awakening dlc
Sure but the discussion was about Inquisition wardens specifically
well, strahd was in it. Coincidentally he's one of the non-moronic wardens
I wonder where she got her /ss/ ideas from.
Would.
I liked the moustache guy. Told hawke to stay behind in the fade. varik was sad but he got over it. That entire situation was arbitrary and dumb anyway
I liked it better when the narrative was that DA:O was mediocre but people where starved for CRPGs back in 2009.
Also Morrigan can bite me, she leaves you right before the final boss if you deny her the baby.
>Yes Morrigan I trust YOU, the conspiratorial swamp witch with dubious morality, with a god baby
The fact it works out in the next games doesn't make it less silly, but maybe the writing was on the wall the moment they made her an exclusive DLC.
Probably going to be Bioware's Saints Row, I'm expecting it will be so fricking bad it will put them under for good, it will hit me harder though since I actually used to have respect for Bioware
>comes back in the third game and absolutely mogs every single female character
How'd she do it?
nice voice. you'd be surprised how far a sexy voice can carry a character. See fenris
Because she's the last remnant of a bygone age of video games with female characters that were written well
I liked Cassandra, she just needed to be a decade younger and in a better game.
I didn't mind Cassandra being in her late 30s since my character looked older. Made it look like two loners finding love late in life which I found sweet
Only works if you play with the american voice instead of video essayist voice.
They butchered qunari the most. Inquisition has some good parts, in particular the trespasser and deep mines or whatever its called dlc, but its wrapped around a dull 100 hour game.
The new one will be the continuation of trespasser, but i have 0 hopes for it
What pisses me off the most about DAI's story is that its premise was completely unnecessary. I mean, in a world that just went completely out of balance as mages seek Independence and templars ain't having it, where Qunari are possibly considering an invasion over this and using the Kirkwall incident as an excuse to cleanse all infidels, with Anderfels' Grey Wardens growing more despotic and only other sizeable contingent existing in Orlais, not to mention Tevinter Imperium doing god knows.... what does Bioware do? Oh you know, ancient evil awakens and wants to take over the world. Why are they so creatively bankrupt when it comes to making use of their OWN settings?
For me, the whole thing was doomed since they revealed the game was going to be set AFTER the Templar-Mage war. They wrote the second game to build and hype that event, and then relegated it to the shitty novels nobody fricking read.
I honestly cant remember most of the plot, given how irrelevant it felt, every area was disconnected and had some sort of its own story, while barely tying into the overall narrative. Even Corypheus felt non threatening since he was barely in the game. Like you said, pretty much every storyline from previous games was just wasted
Corypheus underwent such a downgrade from DA2 DLC to DAI it's not even funny. Down to his VA.
Corypheus was supposed to attack Skyhold and depending on previous choices made in the game, Varric was either going to die or survive. But they cut that out, probably because of time costraints but I'm not sure.
What is this?
A jpg for ants?
moronic phonehomosexual
>It's a destroyed franchise isn't it?
Of course, it died with DA2.
Which one?
Yes
They were pretty tied in Origins but by Inquisition Morrigan wins by a fricking longshot. Better looking, has your kid, still very much in love with the warden, etc.
you can have both
Only for a short while, then they both get jealous as frick and make you choose.
Time the whole thing in a way that you trigger the romance then march on the capital to save it, and they both remain in love with you. It's cheeky and maybe pointless but works.
you woo leliana the whole game and sex the other one before the final boss
Breed Morrigan, frick hardened cuckquean Leliana + Isabella, marry Anora.
Honorable mentions to the Elf girl and her cucked boyfriend, and the onee-san in Redcliffe and her NTR'd little brother.
neither
Honestly, a lot of DAO was pretty rough in retrospect too. The gameplay was dumbed down BG combat, and the setting was generic medieval fantasy Europe. It's only beloved as it was for coming out at a time when CRPG's were basically dead and for having a sexy swamp witch romance.
>morrigan claims that there no feeling involved when you start romancing her
>gets butthurt when you flirt with other women like the redcliffe bar girl or the one girl with the lost younger brother
My swamp witch can't be this cute.
I have watched excerpts from the latest cartoon and comic books and now I have PTSD
>I have watched excerpts from the latest cartoon and comic books
why would you do that?
I am a silly cat
And also I had an urge to see what they have done with the IP. Level of LULZ' moon man songs (as in a cover by 9yo named Alfonsu da Silva or something from american not really a countryside, but not really a city), maybe worse.
It's like gachimuchi, except with men having sex with each other part, and characters are ocdonutsteels from tumblr.
>It's like gachimuchi
wtf I love draon age now?
With the gay sex part and not played for fun
>With the gay sex part
anon... what do you think gachimuchi is?
give us the deets, after iron bull and canon troon in inquisition i didn't think it could get any worse, but a literal troony is the director now, so i need to know what level we are looking at
I know some people like the French b***h, but I can't believe she was the only straight man's romance option in DA:I. I don't mean Leliana, but the other one.
She was actually italian
the b***h was the scar is Italian?
OH no I thought you meant the brown chick, she is what I assumed you meant by 'French'
The chick with the scar (Cassandra) I think had a Romanian accent
Yeah, Cassandra. I don't romance Bi characters so she was my only romance option and I thought it was a pretty bad one.
Ferelden = England
Orlais = France
Anderfels = German
Nevarra = Romania
Antiva = Italy
Rivain = Spain
Tevinter = British Empire
Free Marches = Wales/Scots
Elves = Irish
Dwarves = American
>Tevinter = British Empire
No, Ancient Tevinter is Roman Empire. Modern Tevinter is Byzantine Empire.
>Elves = Irish
>Dwarves = American
Wut
They give the Elves Irish accents in DA2 and generally the oppressed 'People' angle is very Irish
Dwarves have always had American accents, it's their thing
I'm an ESL so I don't really get your accents except for the poshy Brit, working class Brit and gay Californian.
I'll believe you there but culturally, I don't see it. Maybe the Dalish being Irish applies because of pikey gypsies but I don't see anything American in Dwarves.
Dwarves being American is entirely based on their accents admittedly, there is nothing else American about them aside from they're the only frickers in the game who sound like that.
Aside from Qunari I guess.
Not her skin color that made me think 'French', just that her accent is closer to a French accent like Leliana's than I would have put Cassandra's is where my assumption came from
And I just assumed scar b***h was French because she worked with the other Frenchie.
The Grey Wardens from Inquisition are their usual MO, the Hero of Ferelden and Alistair are really outliers who go beyond "muh darkspawn must die" mentality that plagues the organization.
It wasn't even any change in course because in DAO Duncan acted like a fanatic in the joining and he and every other senior wardens in Ferelden died like trash against the horde.
The Grey Wardens are a hardcore organization that dabbed into crazy blood magic shenanigans since their inception and Corypheus made a fool out of them because he could mimic the calling and got himself a demon of immense power who could amplify the effect for every Warden on the continent.
The problem with the sequels is that every major conflict is portrayed in a cartoonish villain way that makes the bad side look silly and shallow.
The worst villains of DAO were Branka and Howe who were respectively mad with ambition or a corrupt opportunist but they were still better handled than every crazy templar or blood mage from the sequels.
The only truly interesting antagonists past DAO are the Arishok and Solas who have that same layer of dept as Loghain but every other secondary villain pales before Zathrian, Kolgin, Bhelen and the Pride Demon.
Morrigan
Merrill
Cassandra
These are the only correct choices
I've never seen such a correct answer in my life before. congrats Anon
>Morrigan
no
>Wynne staring
my fricking sides
>plays as a woman
Of course no, Morrigan isn't even an option for dykes.
Anon, we live in 2024.
Everything is an option.
>yellow Leliana
Mod that shit out for Christ's sake
Leliana
Isabela
Josephine
same, I wanted to frick the bi girls as a guy
The complete dark-haired light-skin beauty trifeca, nicely done
True, but only because you can't breed the dwarfess
Basado
Morry and Lilly are both good, but Morry wins by having bigger role in later games.
In 2nd game I wanted to romance the guard chick but game didn't allowe to.
Cassy is cute, yes.
True. But I hate that Cassandra is the only straight man option. DA2 romance is irrelevant as they are all Bi.
frick
kill
marry
Cassandra over Morrigan? Are you serious?
i wouldn't frick morrigan. she probalby has a bunch of swamp stds
Dreadwolf will kill Bioware for good and that's a good thing.
If Harding was available in DAI she'd easily be the most popular. Fricking David Gaider with this weird pedo hangups about dwarven women.
He's gone now, so who knows for DW.
>He's gone now
And replaced by worse sadly.
Frickin' bg3 didn't have a short race romance. It's never going to happen.
BG3 was planned to have a halfling romance but then someone in the forums sperged and it became a bad look and she was cut
he has clearly never seen a 14 year old girl except maybe in bongland
>completely fine with having a player dwarf romance characters
>wont have the player romance a dwarf character
just doesn't make sense
sounds like a pedo painfully trying to pretend he is not
well he's a homosexual, so pedophilia is in his blood
I hope BG3 creates a new wave of conversation-driven/cinematic-driven CRPGs.
I liked BG3 but it didn't satiate my desire for more Origins like it did for some people. It actually made me long for it more. BG3 being close but no cigar has me wanting that fresh DA:O experience so bad.
I just want Larian to add/sell a 5e toolkit. Making and sharing and hosting custom modules was the best part of Neverwinter Nights.
It'd be amazing both for making closed and completed games and as a virtual tabletop
Same here.
I hope the DA executives are fricking scared to release the slop they have now after seeing the major success of the new CRPG
DA2 to me feels the closest to playing like an mmo from the time period with the controls on PC, but the other two games don't play like it. You could have made it so you only control one character and put it online.
That's moronic.
They are trying to make DA4 single player mmo too, specifically to attract the lowest common denominator.
So sad they didn't try to make her look more like the version from the Sacred Ashes trailer.
I quite like her look in Inquisition.
Always thought the SA faces looked a bit weird.
Oof, been a while, but I'm pretty sure it's just a reshade.
Can't say which one though.
I think all of the faces but Morrigan's look better in SA than in the games.
Nope. I only watched the CG trailers that you could download on the 360 lol.
I never saw any media for Origins outside of those trailers.
is for
That's because the cinematic team that made it used actual models as the base for the characters. I can't remember the chick they used for morrigan - but Lelianna was based off a fetish pinup model named Alleykatze.
here's your leliana, bro
Her hairstyle was like in the trailer back when they made it. Fetish models are an... interesting breed.
your game looks great, what mod you use
Do you guys remember this trailer?
I still like the setting of Dragon Age so I managed to enjoy Inquisition. As it is it's a collectathon game in a setting I like with more characters that I like than 2 and some good looking maps and great DLC.
Inquisition had the only good negress in vidya, watching her btfo Dorian and Solas was fun
>can't date her
What's the fricking point then, huh?!
Also, Sheva Alomar is good too.
if there's one thing I hope Larian popularizes, its being able to date a majority of the characters, it avoids the problem of being unable to romance the objectively best characters
based vivienne enjoyers
Vivienne is staceyenne. I didn't appreciate her being mean to blackwall, but she was based as frick. And everyone was mean to blackwall for no reason whatsoever, so i made sure he got with Josephine to make haters seethe even more
>Vivienne
>only good nigress in vidya
Vivienne is fricking intolerable, what are you talking about?
>Aunt Jemima mage who doesn't understand why mages hate being in Circles because she's in the 1% of the 1% of the mages who are given everything they could ever want because she married a rich duke who showers her in priviledge
>Entire personality can be summed up as 'smug c**t' without a trace of likability
>SPAAAA DAY DAAAAARLING
It's like they tried to make a black Rarity without a hint of what makes incredibly vain fashionistas likeable. Vivienne looks down on everyone when she absolutely does not deserve to.
There are good black chicks in vidya, and even good black chicks in Dragon Age (Isabella for one) but Vivienne sure as frick isn't one of them.
>t. Dorian
Dorian is a homosexual but he's a based homosexual
Im sorry but I go for Iron Bull when Im feeling gay, Dorian's daddy issues were too much for me
i sometimes play male characters and go for gay options when my fujo side is taking over, but literally none of the inquisition gay options reved my fujo engine
fenris is the only good gay option in the series, zevran is annoying and dorian looks like hello neighbor and iron bull is....well, iron bull
oh yeah and then theres anders LMAO
ironically gaider cannot write good male romances despite being gay himself
Yes, fenris is good, I was specifically talking about inquisition. ANd Zevran is for female wardens to coddle his mommy issues
>who doesn't understand why mages hate being in Circles
She does though, she just thinks the alternative of having mages run around with no oversight is worse given their propensity to turn into abominations and kill everyone around them, or not being able to have their powers honed and such might lash out and kill people.
She doesn't offer any alternatives though, she's just content to remain in her loft five-star suit surrounded by every amenity any human could ask for while other mages are getting raped/beaten for looking at Templar funny. Cassandra has the same opinion that mages NEED oversight but she has a nuanced take on it recognizing that the Templars have become an unnecessarily oppressive force in doing so and that reform is needed to at least some degree, Vivienne was happy with the system before and she'd be perfectly happy returning to the old system afterwards. Regardless of whether or not that's what happened in her Divine ending (I never made Viv divine) Vivienne has never had issues with Templars as they were and was both satisfied and a champion of the status quo of giving them total dominion over the Mages.
>other mages are getting raped/beaten for looking at Templar funny
a moronic retcon for cheap drama. the mages were not treated badly in dao. and even da2 you could make an argument it was the result of outside meddling, not to mention that litereally every single mage in that game, save for you and bethany was a blood mage
They weren't exactly treated nicely in DAO either
>Forcibly removed from your family at adolescence or Templars kill you
>Given the option to either lobotomize yourself or be forced to fight a demon (Templars will kill you if you fail)
>Few if any mages given the privilege of leaving the Tower to even go on errands or visit friends/family without Templar overseers
>Are tracked for the rest of their lives using phylacteries
>Rite of Annulment makes no distinction between mages who are possessed and those who aren't, they kill everyone
Kirkwall was the worst example but it's hardly unbelievable that similar instances would happen here in there in other Circles.
The Templars' tight grip is as much at fault of creating the current situation as the Mages rebelling were, both sides lead to the situation. Vivienne wanting to return to the status quo is tempting history to repeat itself.
I'm not saying as though there aren't good reasons to keep Mages monitored but the degree to which it was enforced give the Mages legitimate reasons to chaff in their custody. Neither freeing the Mages or making things exactly the way they were is the right call, but something needed to change or we'll be back to this same situation in before the end of the next Age.
>but something needed to change or we'll be back to this same situation in before the end of the next Age
hello anders
cities can rebuild, Hawke
can you rebuild my mom? She was merced by one of yours
>but something needed to change
Hard agree. Total Mage Death!
>and a champion of the status quo of giving them total dominion over the Mages.
Because look at what happened when the mages got their way: they voted to disband the circles, had the Divine more or less support them, plunge large parts of Thedas into a mage rebellion she doesn't think that they have any hope of winning, and spread chaos in their wake for no reason other than a degree of freedom she views as incredibly dangerous.
The circles to her probably are the best way of controlling mages, and it's not like she's okay with Templars doing whatever they want with mages, she just views it as the most realistic, practical solution.
>she doesn't think that they have any hope of winning
they don't. the second orlais gets off its ass it's over for mage fricking shits. The only reason it didn't happen already was because of Demon of Envy taking over the Templars and the whole orlais civil war
Isabella isn't black, she's a Spanish gypsy
Siding with the templars is so much more interesting than the mage story.
It's the only logical thing to do too unless you're playing a braindead mage yourself
>played a dalish mage
>still sided with templars
I can not fathom what possess a normal well-adjusted person to side with mages
Both sides are moronic.
On the one hand mages are walking nukes that have the capacity to succumb to a blood magic demon and kill everyone nearby at any time and there absolutely needs to be an organization keeping track of them and dealing with blood mages. Total mage freedom is just not an option.
On the other hand, the Templar are moronic zealots that basically make it their job to shit on mages so hard that they're forced to make blood pacts to survive. They're making things worse for everyone and doing the opposite of their mandate.
That's not even getting into specific characters all being dumb as a bag of rocks, either.
>I'm a mage and this very armed and armored group that found me says I'm free to go - BETTER MAKE A BLOOD PACT OH FRICK HE STABBED ME
>My favorite student who dabbles in blood magic is in a party that kills whole packs of blood demons effortlessly and I'm a weak old lady? BETTER MAKE A BLOOD PACT WITH HER DEMON AND TELL MY PEOPLE SHE'S EATS BABIES
>>My favorite student who dabbles in blood magic is in a party that kills whole packs of blood demons effortlessly and I'm a weak old lady? BETTER MAKE A BLOOD PACT WITH HER DEMON AND TELL MY PEOPLE SHE'S EATS BABIES
I make it a point to only bring Merrill to the Keeper fight and have her basically solo the demon. And then when the elves get uppity I exterminate them, too. Mindbreaking Merrill into your waifu is just too good.
Dragon age Origins was one of the few CRPG-ish games where it felt like the power mages are supposed to hold in lore also came across in gameplay.
It has some of the most fun spells I've ever seen. Stuff like the infectious bomb spell exploding people into huge swathes of blood type fun
mogged
If only there was a cute boy for that giant muscle mommy to date. Romance options in that game are the worse of all games with romance mechanics.
Oh well, there's always Kieran...
The environments are really nice
Damn, I never realized I had that many hours.
how did you reach these numbers
MAGIE MAGIE GET IN CAGEY
STOMP YOUR FEET AND SEETHE AND RAGIE
KNIGHT CAPTAIN AND HIS TEMPLARS LAUGH
AT YOUR SHIT FILLED LOINCLOTH GAFFE
ALL DAY LONG YOU SCREAM AND WHINE
"SOON IT'LL BE THE MAGES TIME!!!"
HUNDREDS OF YEARS IN A FANCY HOME WITH NO RENT
AND SCREAM AND CRY AT ONE JUSTIFIED ANNULMENT
MANIFESTOS, BLOGS, AND TWEETS GALORE
ABOUT YOUR """"MAGE REBELLION"""" BORE
"TEMPLARS WANT US IN OUR GRAVES!!!!"
IGNORING THE MAGE NATIONS FULL OF SLAVES
MAGIE CALM DOWN AND DONT BE LAZY
OR YOUR SCHIZO DEMON FRIENDS WILL DRIVE YOU CRAZY
“DUDE TEMPLARS ARE JUST LIKE A COP!!”
AS MAGES MAKE INNOCENT POPULATIONS DROP
MAKES A THREAD TO CALL A TEMPLAR CHUD
THRN MURDERS INNOCENTS FOR THEIR BLOOD
Hilarious how cory is one of the og bad guys that created the blight only to turn into a lonney toons villain having his plans foiled yet again like 5 times.
Yeah dude had so much lore surrounding him but they just used him as a cartoon villain to prop up that ugly bald elf as the REAL antagonist. It's funny because the version you fight in DA2 is basically a different character than the insane moron we got in DAI.
with animation like that i can hardly take him seriously
That's one ugly Elf
bit rude
Never played Inquisition, is this The Architect?
No it's his former co-worker who was first introduced in a Dragon Age 2 DLC.
No, it's Corypheus, another old Tevinter mage that worked with the Architect, introduced in DA2 and turned into the main antagonist in Cisquisition
Imagine being the little brother of Hawke.
>be Carver
>be living in a house full of magic while you don't have any
>father is a badass mage and swordsman
>mother is poise and graceful even in the poorest of conditions
>twin sister and big sister are mages doted on by father who sometimes teaches you swordplay
>Learn later dad didn't want his children as mages, but he sure was happy teaching them
>dad dies and now you're the only man in a house full of titty monsters
>the other villagers call your home the "tiddy shack"
>get into fights when guys lewdly insult your family
>big sister steps in and beats them up for you
>she then fricks them as "punishment"
>tfw everyone in the family and the village love your sister while forgetting about you
>even Peaches
Carver had a hard upbringing.
Hawke is a man tho, same as Shepard.
>get into fights when guys lewdly insult your family
>big sister steps in and beats them up for you
>she then fricks them as "punishment"
ngl wish Hawke was my big sister and fricked all my bullies...
Seriously here, Carver is a pretty good character that justifies playing a mage. If you have little brothers, he is just the annoying contrarian shitlord some of us have to endure but he's still your bro when it matters, in the DLCs. It's even better if he becomes a Templar.
It's a shame he has to leave the story one way or another.
>hottest girl in DA2 is your sister
Why couldn't they just go full incest
God I wanted to frick Bethany.
Incest is the one taboo that a lot of western fantasy shit absolutely refuses to cross. It's especially jarring in stories that try so hard to be grimderp (Origins in general was heavily based off of ASOIAF) yet refuse to cross that singe line but will happily include torture, rape and literal monster breeding horror shit like broodmother's entire existence.
>hottest girl in DA2 is actually (You)
what did they mean by this
Bioware was ahead of its time
That's the best though, I love it when the waifu is (you)
It sucked and is pozzed. The removed Desire demons completely for instance
>Still riding side-saddle while b***hing at your betters?
That line will forever be burned into my memory
Always thought it was lame someone had to die there considering the warden and friends kill one in hour 2.
Grey Wardens are built different
god
EA fricked BioWare so hard by making them use frostbite
fricking insane the animations for DA2 are better than DA:I
and also
>forcing BioWare to drop their small scale DA project to focus on fricking Anthem
god I fricking hate EA
I really don't like Dragon Age lore. The Maker and Elvesn pantheon are really boring religions. The Fade also sucks. Also, couldn't you put more countries in your continent? Thedas is tiny.
They turned the qunari into docile cow humans. DA:I came out as sjw woke was taking off. Every lgbt game writer pushed their agenda to the max.
Why did you bother playing Dragcuck Gayge Cisqueertransition?
Will you play Ass Defect: Androgyna next?
Every post deserves a (You)
I remember playing Inquisition for 20 hours. Gameplay was terrible, but I finally made it to where I got to have my own castle and unlock a specialization. Finally something new.
In Origins, you unlocked specializations in very unique ways. One of them had you literally piss on the ashes of Ferelden's Jesus Christ and forced you to give up a companion. The blood magic one had you make a deal with a Succubus, which you had sex with and forced to hand over a plot-related noble's son.
Did you know what Inquisition had me do in order to unlock my specialization? Collect 30 squirrel asses. I instantly alt-F4ed and un-installed the game, never played anything from BioWare ever since.
>and forced to hand over a plot-related noble's son
You aren't forced to if you have high enough persuasion
>I instantly alt-F4ed and un-installed the game
What a weird thing to stop playing over.
>What a weird thing to stop playing over.
It's not, same thing happened to me
>do you want to become a necromancer? Here, take this groceries list and come back when you have everything
I remember I did it but the whole thing had me pretty burned out and quit right after.
BioWare are masters of making shit sequels
For me it was Dawn Star.
The one Bioware game where you could actually score both chicks at once and get a threesome. The best part was they were cousins.