You might be tired of seeing this same type of post, but it's gotta happen. DBFZ's playerbase is dwindling compared to Tekken and Street Fighter, especially with SF6 just coming out this year and Tekken 8 being on it's way.
The announcement of them implementing rollback did resurge interest in the game, but evidently ArcSystem underestimated how much work would go into reworking the netcode so it's been in the work for over a year.
There's so much they can do with a sequel.
>Revamped mechanics such as auto-combos no longer having autocorrect and being fully executable on whiff and toned-down superdash
>More defensive options including quick tag-outs and evasive teleports
>More character-specific nuances for universal mechanics and team-specific moves
>New single-player campaign (following the story of the first game) that removes the redundant board game-like setting and expands on the RPG elements
>The difficulty curve for Arcade is fixed with the AI actually playing better at higher levels instead of just having beefed-up stats
>New game modes such as Survival (choose one character and defeat an infinite amount of opponents till K.O'd), Challenge (win matches under special conditions), and Gallery (look at artwork, watch movies, and listen to music)
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>>Base Roster
Goku
Goku (Super Saiyan)
Goku (SSGSS)
Goku (Ultra Instinct)
Vegeta
Vegeta (Super Saiyan)
Vegeta (SSGSS; can transform into SSGSS Evolved)
Gohan (Teen)
Gohan (Adult)
Gohan (Beast)
Piccolo
Krillin
Trunks
Yamcha
Tien
Master Roshi
Android 17
Android 18
Gotenks
Vegito (SSGSS)
Gogeta (SSGSS)
Raditz
Nappa
Zarbon
Captain Ginyu
Frieza
Cell
Dabura
Majin Buu
Kid Buu
Beerus
Hit
Goku Black
Zamasu (Fused)
Caulifla
Kefla
Toppo
Ribrianne
Jiren
Broly (DBS)
Ganma #1 & #2
New original villain
=Stages=
World Tournament Arena (Noon)
World Tournament Arena (Evening)
Cell Games Arena
Space
Land of the Kai's
West City
West City (Destroyed)
Wasteland (Noon)
Wasteland (Evening)
Cavern
Rocky Field (Noon)
Rocky Field (Evening)
Islands
Planet Namek
Planet Namek (Destroyed)
Hyperbolic Time Chamber
Tournament of Power
Glacier
Whis' Planet (unlockable)
i don't think i'd ever want to learn a fightan game with a roster like this
Fake and gay.
Cmon you don't like Goku, Goku, Goku, Goku, Goku, Goku, Goku?
>no GT
>all that homosexual Super shit
No thanks!
No GT no Andriod 21.
This is horrible. The devs know GT is hyped. That is why the last planned DLC was SSJ4 Gogeta
>Roster
>all characters are Goku with random letters in parentheses and palette swapped hair colors
Man, y'all must hate Goku.
With a considerably smaller roster, reusing Goku four-six times makes the CSS look very unbalanced. Certain fan favorites and staples of Dragon Ball games suddenly being shafted only hurts the newer games in the long run for the sake of capitalizing on the new recolored Super Saiyan.
>reusing Goku four-six times makes the CSS look very unbalanced
I don't like the extra Goku characters either, but it's not that bad because Goku has enough moves to make multiple characters abd each one represents a different era.
It's still the same character, and giving him different moves isn't gonna cut it. Condense all the Gokus in one slot and have a sub-menu where you pick Super Cyan, UI, etc.
Goku has the deepest pool to pull from, he’s the main character of 4 series (soon to be 5) and dozens of movies. Nonsense would be if they made multiple Jirens or Cells who have a single run of episodes to pull from.
Once again,
And no one's saying Jiren or Cell should have three forms, don't pull a whataboutism.
There’s no fan favorites missing besides extra gokus and vegetas.
No one is actually a fan of fricking raditz or zarbon or any of the other one off hurdle characters.
Fighterz had literally every character that actually moves merch with Nappa and Tien thrown in for good measure.
>There’s no fan favorites missing besides extra gokus and vegetas.
>No one is actually a fan of fricking raditz or zarbon or any of the other one off hurdle characters.
Not quite true. Mr. Satan, Pikkon, Omega Shenron, Caulifla, Pikkon, and Toppo are highly requested characters that have yet to make the cut.
DBFZ2 is also a great opportunity to add less popular characters like Raditz and Zarbon to the base roster.
>Mr. Satan
That’s fair, he should be in
>Pikkon
Can’t even sell jpgs in dokkan
>Omega shenron
See Pikkon
>Caulifla
Already in game
>Pikkon
Again?
>Toppo
See Pikkon
>Can’t even sell jpgs in dokkan
Who cares?
>Already in game
No, that's Kefla. Caulifla could be interesting if they pair her up with Kale. Their team dynamic was overall great, but Kefla was just a easier and more obvious choice.
There's also Gohan Beast, Orange Piccolo, and the Gamma brothers who missed their place in the roster for DBFZ.
>No one is actually a fan of fricking raditz or zarbon
And there it is; the irrelevancy argument. All the games these two starred in and suddenly there aren't any fans of them starting with FighterZ. I'm not particularly big on them either, but to say they don't have fans is disingenuous.
>Raditz is the main protagonist's brother, the games have managed to give him scenarios involving him and Goku and even Gohan
>Zarbon is Freeza's right hand man, was the guy who gave Vegeta his second on-screen loss and has a transformation to play with for bigger moves
I noticed with FighterZ and Ultimate, there's this notion that everyone that matters is already playable, like they're gonna stop making Dragon Ball games or Smash games all of a sudden. New games means new characters and they can't just make ten-twenty new characters when there are still old fan favorites waiting to be added and can be added because of the lack of new faces. Any Dragon Ball fan isn't going to object to Raditz, Zarbon, Dodoria or Dabura being in a playable roster, they're gonna be excited. Anyone unironically speaking like you got into Dragon Ball with Super, and it shows.
I got into with the 90s run of Z, im arguing on the basis of actual variety for a fighting game.
Dabura sure, we don’t have a character that focuses on status effects.
Super Buu as a trap based character would also add something.
But radditz and Zarbon aren’t going to play any different than everyone in game already, and unlike characters like Vegito (merch mover), bardock (merch mover, Japan) or dbs Broly (shilling new movie) there’s no reason to actually put in the work to make them. Personally I don’t think characters like Videl or Jiren should even be in the game but they at least had unique things they could do with them.
>im arguing on the basis of actual variety for a fighting game.
There was plenty of variety in the older games, so this is just an empty excuse.
>merch mover, shilling
And that's the problem, businessmen trying to shill products instead of continuing the goodwill of general fan favorites and letting the name and the cast sell themselves, and people like you support that shit.
>Goku
>Goku (Super Saiyan)
>Goku (SSGSS)
>Goku (Ultra Instinct)
>Vegeta
>Vegeta (Super Saiyan)
>Vegeta (SSGSS; can transform into SSGSS Evolved)
>Gohan (Teen)
>Gohan (Adult)
>Gohan (Beast)
>Gohan beast but no Piccolo Naranja
Beast will be a lvl 3, big Niggolo will be a full character.
The idea is to have Orange Piccolo as DLC. Having Gohan Beast on the base roster is part of the marketing scheme.
Just clone the Super Dragon Ball Z roster and throw in a few gimmes for burger gays to leech on.
SDBZ is the gold standard for DB fighting games to this day.
I loved SDBZ's portrayal of Chi-Chi. She was basically Chun-Li woth Dragon Ball weapons in that game, which isn't exactly accurate but makes sense given her character and abilities. It's also a good reference for some moves.
Chi-Chi actually has a chance of making it as DLC for DBFZ2, although a lore-accurate movset for her won't be too different from Videl's.
>just cut the roster size from 44 to a little over 18 in this 3v3 fighter
I'm sure that would go over well.
>but it's gotta happen
>DBFZ's playerbase is dwindling compared to Tekken and Street Fighter,
No the frick it doesn't. They can't even get rollback netcode out the door in a timely manner, and in the meantime, they frick the balance of the game for funsies. That's why its hemorrhaging players if anything.
dragon brand is dying.
they are basically finished with DB super and are now doing that stupid kid shit.
also the super hero movie made money but the overall cost of making it was too high so the profit wasn't that great.
which is funny because the entire point of making it 3d was to save on money.
brolly movie did 10 times their fricking budget and was almost entirely 2d
The Broly movie had a lot behind it. It was a canonical implementation of a long time fan favorite done in a good way. Super Hero had nothing and wasn't terribly good.
they retconned the original broly movie? why
goddamn why is dbz all about bringing old villains back from the dead and shit over and over
Because the original Broly was one note. This time they wanted to make him a character with more staying power and I think they pulled that off.
I agree, the Super Broly movie is one of my favorites. High octane for a whole hour once they start fighting. The WWE intros and the og shading was kino. Plus they put full screen Bulma ass and all the Cheelai were hot. Super Hero actually felt like filler similar to the Frieza movie. The pacing was off, the hero androids were dweeby, and by the time they finally get to Beast Gohan they end the movie lmao. The special bean cannon was cool tho.
You know what annoys me most about super hero? It wasn't all of that what you said, but I know the suits are going to look at this and go "See, people DON'T want to see non goku/vegeta material, so let's just focus on those two instead" while ignoring the fact the movie was mid at best.
Yea it's def annoying they set up Gohan's movie like that. Now we're getting that shitty baby looney tunes anime that of course features kid Goku and Vegeta lmao.
There was some hype because of the appearance of Black Frieza but the manga is moving at a snail pace. They have literally taken the entire year to adapt the Red Cell movie into manga and I bet when the Super anime restarts next year along with that kiddy bullshit spin-off it's also gonna begin with the Red Cell movie garbage too. Like what is even the point into adapting that movie that flopped into manga and anime too? Should have gone on hiatus and continue the manga next year instead of killing all the interest with this Orange Piccolo and White Gohan or how they call it, beast mode, bullshit that no one cares about. There's gonna be a whole lot of low quality Dragonball content next year. They are gonna milk it dry and bury the franchise for good.
This game really need a sequel? Why not make something like smash ultimate that is just an extension of the first one
Please, God, all I want is Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 with rollback, so the online is alive again, coupled with a free weekend so new players get a chance to try out the game. Please.
i don't think new players are gonna play it, 2 of my friends bought it because i play it and got filtered so bad they never even asked me for a fight. but yeah it'd be perfection for anyone who enjoys it
I'll take a slightly dumbed down new Marvel as well. Just give me hot girls again. Please. It's been so long.
>I'll take a slightly dumbed down new Marvel as well
not much can get as dumb as X-factor. I just want 3v3 with active tag and assists.
>Just give me hot girls again
basado
Active tag is really cool, I agree.
The gameplay is too fricked up in mvc3 to pull many new people.
Ok then at least let me play with other people properly without having to resort to parsec.
>auto-combos no longer having autocorrect
Sure
>no longer being fully executable on whiff
No. Command chain normals on a single button exist in other fighting games, like 6AAA for H-Nanners in Melty
I CAN'T FRICKING WAIT FOR GOKU (NAKED) (RAPIST) (GONE WILD) (SUPER SAIYAN SEX)
>but it's gotta happen
No it doesn't. The better DBZ fighter has come back.
>The better DBZ fighter has come back
As much as I love BT2 and BT3, they aren't great fighters... but that's okay, because they weren't trying to be that. They were just trying to let us recreate Goku vs. Vegeta.
DBFZ is an actual eSports game and caters more to the FGC.
There's no reason why BT4 and DBFZ2 can't coexist.
Bandai is moronic so even thought the game sold like 10 million copies I'm not sure they will make a sequel. The rollback fiasco also really hurt the game since a lot of the player base just stopped playing to wait for rollback and it just never came
>Bandai is moronic so even thought the game sold like 10 million copies
Bandai is moronic but not that moronic. DBFZ is simply too successful not to have a sequel and ArcSystem would be moronic to turn down the offer to develop a sequel because DBFZ is the only reason people know about them in the first place.
/dbs/bros, what the frick is THIS?
It's the scooby doo kids of dragon ball
Our heroes about to achieve the legendary /ss/ form
>"Goku gets turned into a kid!"
Can they finally stop ripping GT already?
But this time everyone gets deaged. e-girl Bulma, Chichi, and 18 confirmed.
>Shenron, turn 18 and 17 into humans!
"That is beyond my powers"
>Turn them into kids!
"Granted"
So it's even worse.
i think they confirmed the series is non canon as well
CUTE and POWERFUL
sparking zero was greenlit because fighterz 2 aint happening. what ever the reason for the delay of the anime featuring moro and upwards. ASW cant animate the new finishers and special scenes. so sparking zero is just a skinner box fighter you can add anyone into and im pretty sure there gonna have pre order bonuses for Daima Goku and Vegeta.
>sparking zero was greenlit because fighterz 2 aint happening. what ever the reason for the delay of the anime featuring moro and upwards.
Source: my ass
true but my theory holds more water, why would bandai skip a fighterz 2 that sold gangbusters over a ...sparking game? same reason why xenoverse 2 is still getting content.
>DBFZ's playerbase is dwindling compared to Tekken and Street Fighter, especially with SF6 just coming out this year and Tekken 8 being on it's way
3V3 fighters is the sweatiest form of fighting games, the playerbase was always gonna plummet hard. that's why people prefer watching DBZ at events than actually playing it.
DBFZ is too good. I have no idea how they could improve or evolve the game for a sequel.
>Frieza is finally good
>cant bring myself to play again because of the trash netcode
Hiroki please
Who the frick still cares about Dragon Ball?
It's not happening.
Game is ToD hell. They need to tone that shit down. I'd like it if they added transformations as part of a character's moveset, that way there's no repeating versions of characters. And fusion characters put under some sort of rules et to justify their broken shit like needing both characters on the same team. Potara characters remain fused for the rest of the match but you also lose one character. Fusion dance is timed and once per match, but you regain both characters at the end. Bring back a budokai capsule or super dbz skill tree system. Don't revolve the game on ToDs and mixups, instead make speed and zoning the focus of the game, keep combos short but complex, lock auto combos behind a controller type and please take from super dbz and add a movement bar for superdash and flying shieet