every capcom game these days gets post release patches/dlc. so whats stopping them from adding in a co-op dungeon or some shit after you beat the game.
don't care >still got Dragon's GODma 2 >still no co-op at launch >still masterwork all
you are now here: >DD2 will has more monsters >DD2 will has more vocations & skills >DD2 will has 4x the size of DD1 >DD2 will has 14 years old children that can be romance
>still no co-op at launch
we still know very little of the game. they could very well announce it next year. remember that capcom is trying to push capcom id to all their games now.
fair enough. its mainly zoomers whining about no co-op because for whatever reason they can't imagine a single player game without being forced into some "online community" or some shit.
Imagine how sad an existence they live, not being able to appreciate a game by themselves.
11 months ago
Anonymous
And on the flip side, imagine being a jaded butthole that only wants single player games to themselves and not give people the choice of co-op
You have no defense for not including co-op, once you've played through a game, it'd be incredible to be able to share the joy with someone else in an entirely different way. You probably can't imagine that because you have no frame of reference of having friends. Such a sad existence indeed.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The point of pawns is to incite discussion about the game >hey man, I hired your pawn and they did X and Y, what the hell have you been teaching them? >I saw a pawn able to do Z and J, how do I train my pawn to be like that? >hire my cute pawn guys!
Co-op can incite the same discussion, but with how players today just use it for pseudo socializing rather than enjoying the game together, I'd rather have co-op not added on launch
11 months ago
Anonymous
>choice
This is the problem, if the game is designed with coop it has to make changes to the core gameplay anon, its less a choice and more of a different experience, and inferior one if it comes to the addition of multiplayer. See RE4 going to RE5 for example, just beause you dont engage with it doesnt mean it hasnt affected the gameplay and had changes made around it. They have to change how inventory works, redesign encounters and balance the combat, pacing and even the capabilities of the players, again, even if you dont engage with it, that shit is now part of your single player experience.
If a game started as a singleplayer franchise and people loved it, its probably a bad idea to make the sequel a multiplayer game. The changes you would have to make around it could result in a completely different kind of game. I want more of DD, not more of a hypothetical DD.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>if the game is designed with coop it has to make changes to the core gameplay anon
No. That's what you assume. There is no reason to make that assumption.
11 months ago
Anonymous
In DD you pause to use inventory, try and make that work in multiplayer without changing anything to do with how players manage their inventory themselves.
11 months ago
Anonymous
summoned players don't pause. or no pause during coop. easy
11 months ago
Anonymous
Just... don't pause the game???
Just make it like souls where the game doesn't pause when you open your inventory. Simple
Youre expected to sort through your inventory in the middle of real time combat to heal and restore stamina using multiple items? >run out of stamina or low health >now have to run around in real time, open your inventory spam use of the appropriate item, hopefully avoid whatever is attacking you, then reengage
Do you want this? Try to imagine the logistics of that with your hand anons. There is no hotbar for items in DD, so this is the only way to get to your healing, or if you are climbing and run out of stamina you have to do this to get stamina so you dont fall off. Try to imagine having to move the character, navigate the inventory which is covering the screen and spam use on an item in the middle of DDs combat. Do you really expect that would stay the same just in real time and that they wouldnt change this or rebalance items?
This shit works in Souls games because they have an item bar in those games where there is a fixed amount of healing you can have, so there is no worry about having to go into the inventory in the middle of combat to pop a heal, DD does not do that, you take as much as you are willing to carry in DD.
11 months ago
Anonymous
homie, you can put a healing item on a shortcut button
11 months ago
Anonymous
Oh, like monster hunter? Why don't you just go play that
11 months ago
Anonymous
No. monhun is trash.
11 months ago
Anonymous
you can do that in DD already, you fricking moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
What's the shortcut button for healing items in dragons dogma?
11 months ago
Anonymous
are you pulling my leg?
Right, now what about stamina, or anything else you might need, should we just add a hotbar to the game? Im not oppose to this by the way, my point is that you would have to change the game from what DD1 was in order to accomodate coop, so the argument that it wouldnt need to change if they slapped it on is rather short sighted.
Look at DDO and DD1, everything was simplified and shaved off, and it wasnt a better game.
i'm not saying it should be simplified. i'm saying it should be made with out being shit
11 months ago
Anonymous
And Im saying that it will be simplified to make it work, which means changes. I dont want changes, I just want DD but more. We had DD coop with DDO, look at all the changes they made there to accomodate that it was multiplayer. It wasnt shit, but my god it was not anything like DD as it was and wasnt as good, even with multiplayer. You can say it doesnt need to be shit, but the reason why its always shit is because they are fundamentally making a different kind of game when they have to consider online as a feature in any game.
I just want DD2 man, not DD with "lots of changes"
11 months ago
Anonymous
i just realized i don't even want coop in there myself. he said they wont do that, so our discussion is moot anyway
11 months ago
Anonymous
Everyone who wanted DD won in the end regardless. People pining for COOP at least will have more of the game they liked before, at the very least, and thats something to be happy about, not dissapointed.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Hold r1 and l1 and press the direction button to the item you have registered to the spot.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I play both what now moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
>he doesn't know about hotkeys in DDDA
Anon-kun I...
11 months ago
Anonymous
Right, now what about stamina, or anything else you might need, should we just add a hotbar to the game? Im not oppose to this by the way, my point is that you would have to change the game from what DD1 was in order to accomodate coop, so the argument that it wouldnt need to change if they slapped it on is rather short sighted.
Look at DDO and DD1, everything was simplified and shaved off, and it wasnt a better game.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Just... don't pause the game???
11 months ago
Anonymous
Just make it like souls where the game doesn't pause when you open your inventory. Simple
11 months ago
Anonymous
Just... don't pause the game???
The game doesn't need to be any more challenging than it already is
11 months ago
Anonymous
DD1 was not challenging at all, even on hard mode.
Not having the game pause in co op does not make the game harder.
You're a fricking moron.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Maybe you should challenge yourself in real life and stop working at mcdonalds.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Maybe you should find proper arguments instead of projecting.
11 months ago
Anonymous
oof touched a nerve, my mcgriddle is getting cold
11 months ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession.
11 months ago
Anonymous
well you never delivered me my concession so I refunded hope you get fired
11 months ago
Anonymous
You have 3 other people in your party at all times. The game is only challenging if you intentionally handicap yourself
11 months ago
Anonymous
Baby tier: normal mode
Very normal: hard mode
Hard: no healing hard mode
Very hard: solo no healing hard mode
11 months ago
Anonymous
Baby tier: hard mode
Normal mode: hard mode level 1 BBI
Hard: hard mode level 1 BBI no healing
Very hard: hard mode level 1 BBI no healing only starting equipment
11 months ago
Anonymous
Level 1 as in, go in bbi at level 1?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes. Or as close as you can get, the cyclops might level you up
11 months ago
Anonymous
How about staying at level one with mods, hard mode no healing, bbi and banned tool items.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>banned tool items
Oh yeah, definitely should have included that so no throwblasts
11 months ago
Anonymous
Then you sprinkle red vocation only on top i guess. This game truly lets you customize your difficulty any way you like. Most of its overpowered systems are not fun to use anyway so you can cut them and still have a great experience.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Saints Row 2, 3 and 4 did a pretty good job with the optional co-op. They could've done it like that
Official laugh at the morons that wanted co-op thread.
don't care >still got Dragon's GODma 2 >still no co-op at launch >still masterwork all
you are now here: >DD2 will has more monsters >DD2 will has more vocations & skills >DD2 will has 4x the size of DD1 >DD2 will has 14 years old children that can be romance
Imagine how sad an existence they live, not being able to appreciate a game by themselves.
>wanting to cooperate with a human instead of an AI in a game about cooperation >must be a live service zoomer >or some shit
Why are you moronic?
I will have the last laugh and co op will be in da gam soon jerk boomers
>we still know very little of the game. they could very well announce it next year.
they have already states outright there will be NO co-op for the main game
I could see it getting pvp or coop as a dlc area, but I doubt he's ever going to put coop in the main game since that goes against the core concept he had for the game.
>whats stopping them from adding in a co-op dungeon or some shit after you beat the game.
This homie think adding coop in game is as easy as flipping “coop mode: on” switch at Capcom’s HQ
>This homie think adding coop in game is as easy as flipping “coop mode: on” switch at Capcom’s HQ
it probably is. getting co-op to work in kh3 was just modding a switch in unreal engine. i imagine its the same for re engine. when you have generic engines that do generic things they tend to be like that.
DD2 will probably use legacy codes from DD1’s MTFramework engine. So to implement coop, they have to go back through those archaic codes to implement netcode, as well as balancing and shit.
I was never expecting coop, but would have been a nice side feature if done in a way where it was limited. Maybe like DMC where you can sometimes fight alongside others, or restricted to areas like certain dungeons, or bosses like Ur-Dragon.
I don't understand, aren't these the same people that were trying to boycott Elden Ring? Now they want to do the same to this game by comparing it to Elden Ring?
the co-op debate is the easiest to have a full on flame war right now. But it's not just here, almost every forum or website you look, you can see the heated co-op debate( i wouldn't recommend you go on twitter right now)
Skyrims combat is a 9.5 if you install mods, otherwise it’s like a 6. DD is easily a 9.5 and really my only complaint is we didn’t get more skills to play with and we couldn’t set more than a handful.
Is this the best you can muster?
A comparison to an undead game released multiple times across multiple platforms across a decade to hide the fact that the proceeding game is not but a glimmer in the developer's eye?
Surely there is quite high crossover between DD and Skyrim i.e. most people will enjoy both? Same goes for Elden Ring. I agree DD is a 7-8/10 game at best and is the wartiest of the 3, here's to hoping DD2 can be an all around superior game.
You cant really blame them for this but there are lots of people whos experience of the game is taking almost entirely guardian pawns and not knowing why they arent doing anything.
I really hope in 2 there is more clear outlines of behaviours and customizing them, knowing how bad some inclinations are it is shocking how many people are using them, almost certianly because they dont know how to change them, or even that you can.
It really is annoying as frick starting a new character and seeing every pawn with guardian/nexus inclinations. I hope they change that shit or at least explain it because I didn't know it either until 50 hours in when I started looking shit up.
Big franchise games will always get their flaws overlooked and get 2-4 points added based on name alone.
Pokemon is the most brazen example of that where it's games are like solid 4/10s yet still get 8-9/10 from outlets.
Dragons Dogma gets that score because it's a new IP so is treated more harshly.
>Celebrating Capcom NOT including a feature that would improve the game
Bravo DDgays, you really showed us. In all seriousness I don't think anyone really cares all that much, you guys are definitely insane.
>they added a multiplayer feature to Fallout, its a better game now >they made elder Scrolls a multiplayer game, its a better game now
DDO existed, DD1 was a better game still. How many times does it need to happen before you realize that multiplayer is not something you can slap onto a game and it just makes it better, it just makes it differnet.
>watch simmons reaction >him and his entire chat cry about lack of coop
delicious tears I hate that fat frick
wonder why he doesn't cry about lack of coop in xenoblade
i find it funny how Maxmillian, a guy that didnt even bother finishing the base game let alone play the dlc, was going crazy over the trailer meanwhile Nihil, the guy whose entire channel is about dragons dogma was like "yeah looks pretty cool"
I was hoping for something like 2 player co-op in at least some capacity, if for no other reason than being able to teach pawns how to do some absolutely insane shit that would otherwise be impractical if not impossible to teach solo, and avoid less situations like that fricking magic golem spot in BBI that has a medal if you don't have a physical bow, your pretty fricked, and good luck getting a pawn to shoot it
Fine, you caught me. Just know that I'm also the guy in the car with the tinted windows that always follows you around and I'm NEVER going to stop. In fact I'm outside of your house right now.
This anti co-op sentiment seems like a raid. It would have literally no downsides if it had co-op. It would just be a better pawn.
It's just not organic whatsoever.
I don't mind co-op, but I do mind them wasting resources on it or forcing a bunch of co-op only mechanics and balancing on an otherwise single player experience.
Almost all singe-player games suffer when they have a shared co-op experience and makes you feel like a second class citizen for not engaging in it.
A big reason a lot of people want coop is because you wouldn't have to change hardly anything. The game is already built around you having fairly competent and powerful allies despite being singleplayer.
Just letting you control your pawn in another players world would be adequate for the vast majority of people asking for it.
It's fine if they spend no effort on it like in Dark Souls, or add a special co-op zone or something post launch. But there is always gonna be balancing differences between a co-op game and singleplayer game.
>Just letting you control your pawn in another players world would be adequate for the vast majority of people asking for it.
I think we both know people would also scream at Capcom for not having shared world progression and a bunch of stuff like that if that was the case.
Kind of the opposite, I don't want perfect balancing, which is why I prefer singleplayer games. When co-op and other multiplayer features enter the equation, then suddenly having two players using Tenfold Flurry or whatever at the same time is too OP, so now that skill needs to be nerfed, and the entire game just ends up being no-fun allowed.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>then suddenly having two players using Tenfold Flurry or whatever at the same time is too OP
A thing you can do in DD1?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes? Tenfold Flurry is a fricking beast, especially with blast arrows. That and Brain Splitter are so much fun to use. I don't want every skill to feel weak as shit because they were play-tested with multiple players.
Frick of balancegay, already happens in DD1
Just play Warframe or some shit if you want co-op.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Yes? Tenfold Flurry is a fricking beast, especially with blast arrows.
Yes, and two characters using tenfold furry and blast arrows is already possible in DD1.
Should that get "balanced" out?
>A big reason a lot of people want coop is because you wouldn't have to change hardly anything.
DDON had coop and they had to remove most of the physics stuff, being able to pick up objects, grapple enemies etc because of the extra load of synchronization across multiple players
A big reason a lot of people want coop is because they are moronic and don't understand the extra development time needed to make it work. The game is already built around you having fairly competent and powerful allies despite being singleplayer.
Just letting you control your pawn in another players world would be inadequate despite the vast majority aka normalgays and those filtered by the first game of people asking for it.
notice how its all zoomer accounts. you can confirm by going on their profile, see profile creation date usually within the last couple of years because zoomers just got a iphone or tablet, and their favorites/likes/subscriptions are all for display which is all zoomer shit like pewdiepie,asmongold,twitch and other slop streamers.
Why are you schizos hating on coop so much? It's the logical next step. I'm still going to play dd2 and I'm sure it'll be great but the hate that coop gets is just weird as hell.
My brother and I both did and despite loving the game and playing the shit out of it we kept going on about how it would be fricking epic to go adventuran together.
Sorry you've never had friends or siblings to share your hobbies with.
The original game's design documents had a concept for a dungeon where you'd be able to co-op. All Itsuno needs to do is dig that up and implement it in an expansion to silence the co-opgays
literally no reason all bethesda games dont have coop
its stupid that they dont
the games are already janky by default
enjoying that shit with a friend wouldn't take anyone out of it
imagine thinking japs are capable of developing any fleshed out mechanics for a game that didn't had them in the first place
literally the most useless expensive coders there are
I'm all out of laughs worrying if my PC is going to struggle to play DD2.
Do you think there will be a hand to hand (claw) vocation now that the beast race is in?
>if my PC is going to struggle to play DD2.
you have until next year to a PC that's on par with a xbox series s, a console that costs $200 used at gamestop or other places.
I'll never understand people who want LESS features for their game and think it's somehow good for the health of the game
If they included co-op, it wouldn't take away from your single-player experience in any way, and the people who want to play co-op, could play their damn co-op
You literally have no argument against including co-op, your only motive is to be malignant towards people other than yourself, because you're a narcissist that plays games alone.
>it wouldn't take away from your single-player experience in any way
Then how come that is almost always the case?
>Yes? Tenfold Flurry is a fricking beast, especially with blast arrows.
Yes, and two characters using tenfold furry and blast arrows is already possible in DD1.
Should that get "balanced" out?
The keyword here being "characters", not players. >Should that get "balanced" out?
Frick no, which is why co-op fricks up a lot of singleplayer games.
>Frick no, which is why co-op fricks up a lot of singleplayer games.
You were literally arguing how co-op would frick the balance of the game because 2 players will be able to do what a player + pawn can already do. What the frick is your logic?
Learn how to read. I'M WORRIED THAT SHIT WILL GET PATCHED OUT because it's so much easier to exploit when it's two players vs someone who spend X amount of hours training an AI pawn.
>Then how come that is almost always the case?
Yet you can't name any examples, figures.
Divinity OS, Victoria 3(and most modern Paradox games), Peace Walker, all the recent Diablo games, GTAV, RE5, Red Alert 3 springs to mind.
If a game is predominantly being developed as a co-op experience, of course it will be balanced around co-op.
Having a tacked on co-op system in a predominantly single-player game takes nothing away from the single-player experience. Look at Elden Ring. Nobody except turbo autismo-spergs are crying about the co-op, it takes nothing away from the single-player experience, the game is still balanced for single-player, the people who want to play it co-op, can do so.
The pawn system is already a green light to "multiplayer", if you allow one of the pawns to be replaced by an actual player, this wouldn't hurt the game in any capacity, it only gives people more options as to how they would like to experience the game.
I can't even imagine being someone who wants less features for their game.
You can't have your cake and eat it too, you want your favorite games to sell well and have sequels, yet you also want them to cater to the smallest possible demographic to sell maybe 1000 copies so that the studio can go bankrupt, try to think from perspectives other than your own for once.
Having a tacked on co-op system in a predominantly single-player game takes nothing away from the single-player experience.
See: Divinity OS, Victoria 3(and most modern Paradox games), Peace Walker, all the recent Diablo games, GTAV, RE5, Red Alert 3, Outward.
>this wouldn't hurt the game in any capacity,
Provided they don't balance the game around co-op, I agree. But that is a VERY rare thing.
>I can't even imagine being someone who wants less features for their game.
Because adding more features always detracts some other area. There is a limited amount of development time and resources available to any project, I'd rather they perfect a really cool an unique pawn mechanic vs wasting time on generic co-op.
>try to think from perspectives other than your own for once.
Kind of ironic considering everyone is crying about adding co-op to a sequel of a single-player game.
One more time, this time in English, esl creature.
Guess that means you realized how shitty argument was?
>I just hate when predominantly singleplayer games/series have co-op shoved into them and makes singleplayer feel like a second class way of playing.
This is some of the most asinine shit I've heard in a long while. You've got some mental illness to be taking issue to other people being given a choice to play co-op in a predominantly single-player game, do you also cry about the inclusion of co-op in fromsoft games?
Play your game alone, why the frick do you care what other people are doing or are given the choice to do?
>do you also cry about the inclusion of co-op in fromsoft games?
It could definitely be argued that certain online features can be a detractor yes. Like the let-down of exploring an cool new area only for the "reward" to be a co-op focused covenant you will never use, or locking certain items into invasions.
>why the frick do you care what other people are doing or are given the choice to do?
Because it affects me when games are balanced around co-op?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Guess that means you realized how shitty argument was?
How? Because you can give pawns items?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Because you started screeching about random ESL shit? >Because you can give pawns items?
No, because players will have way better in depth knowledge on the game mechanics and how to exploit them, and for some reason developers get really cranky about it as soon as online features start to be involved.
>Having a tacked on co-op system in a predominantly single-player game takes nothing away from the single-player experience.
None of the games you mentioned apply, because since they're predominantly single-player games, the tacked on co-op changes absolutely nothing, other than give people the option for co-op, otherwise you'd be giving reasons as to why that would be the case, other than repeating the names of the games like a broken record. Case closed.
>otherwise you'd be giving reasons as to why that would be the case
They made the the secondary character in D:OS an awkward blank unimersive shell in single-player because it's a co-op feature.
They changed the entire pacing of how Victoria 3 plays because how pausing the game in multiplayer/co-op is tedious.
Peace walker had a bunch of co-op only items and features that were inaccessible to only 1 player, no matter what mode you played.
Diablo 3 onwards are always online, wannabe MMO's.
GTAV singleplayer was abandoned the second co-op became more profitable.
RE5 is borderline unplayable in singleplayer because of the moronic AI.
RA3 like 90% of the missions you were forced to play with an annoying AI partner.
Adding a "generic co-op" is a single day's work to code in, no matter the scale of the game, you act like they'd have to start from scratch with it and waste tons of resources and months to do so. I'm sorry, I can't take you seriously anymore, you're obviously such a disingenuous fricking moron
>single day's work to code in >you're obviously such a disingenuous fricking moron
Ironic.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Having a tacked on co-op system in a predominantly single-player game takes nothing away from the single-player experience.
None of the games you mentioned apply, because since they're predominantly single-player games, the tacked on co-op changes absolutely nothing, other than give people the option for co-op, otherwise you'd be giving reasons as to why that would be the case, other than repeating the names of the games like a broken record. Case closed.
11 months ago
Anonymous
nta but DD2 is a single player game, you lost.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Why should I give a shit? I've played the first game for +160 hours
Adding co-op would take nothing away from the single-player experience, that is literally my one and only point here.
You're advocating for less features in a game.
Why not take away the whole game? Now nobody gets to play, hahaa dunk of those people who want to play it lmao XD
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sure you did.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sure did, and would've loved to play the game later with a friend, but no
You're the cancer killing video games and sapping fun out of the hobby, have a nice day post-haste.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>WAAA WAAAA I WANT COOP >Itsuno reveals DD2 is single player >WAAA YOU ARE CANCER
babyrage
11 months ago
Anonymous
You are cancer regardless of what the director of the game has said >babyrage
I rest my case
11 months ago
Anonymous
Doomposting trannies have no friends though. Stick to your discord.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Huh? Who's doomposting?
Also, what's wrong with discord? Do you not have friends?
11 months ago
Anonymous
You lost.
11 months ago
Anonymous
wtf is this
was there some weird ass mod abuse to supress dd threads over ff16 or some gay shit like that?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Lost what? What you're saying is complete hebrew to me because random iinternet personalities don't live rent free in my head
You're making zero sense to people who don't exist in your mental vacuum
11 months ago
Anonymous
>msg Josh
ofc some homosexual would be called josh, he sounds fat.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>You're the cancer killing video games
but anon that's YOU, co-op is not a good thing for dragon's dogma, it would undermine its one unique system
11 months ago
Anonymous
Undermine? Nobody's forcing you to play co-op if you have no friends, the pawns are still there, nobody is taking away your preferred way of playing the game.
So let's try that again, why is it not a good thing, since your only argument against it is completely moot?
11 months ago
Anonymous
it's a discordtroony who spams about coop ever since DD2 announcement and still melting down even after Chad Itsuno confirmed DD2 is single player game
11 months ago
Anonymous
i'm with you anon. making coop possible, but not mandatory is alright.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Adding a "generic co-op" is a single day's work to code in, no matter the scale of the game, you act like they'd have to start from scratch with it and waste tons of resources and months to do so. I'm sorry, I can't take you seriously anymore, you're obviously such a disingenuous fricking moron
Learn how to read. I'M WORRIED THAT SHIT WILL GET PATCHED OUT because it's so much easier to exploit when it's two players vs someone who spend X amount of hours training an AI pawn.
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Divinity OS, Victoria 3(and most modern Paradox games), Peace Walker, all the recent Diablo games, GTAV, RE5, Red Alert 3 springs to mind.
Also, I should mention I don't mind co-op "only" games. I don't get mad at Valheim or MonHun for having shit singleplayer when that was never their aim.
I just hate when predominantly singleplayer games/series have co-op shoved into them and makes singleplayer feel like a second class way of playing.
>X amount of hours training an AI pawn. >give pawn only tenfold >give them blast arrows when you want them to use em
whoa~!
>pray they actually use it at the right time at the right enemy at the right weak-spot and not just waste all your arrows in a gobin
>I just hate when predominantly singleplayer games/series have co-op shoved into them and makes singleplayer feel like a second class way of playing.
This is some of the most asinine shit I've heard in a long while. You've got some mental illness to be taking issue to other people being given a choice to play co-op in a predominantly single-player game, do you also cry about the inclusion of co-op in fromsoft games?
Play your game alone, why the frick do you care what other people are doing or are given the choice to do?
started playing the first one and honestly I think it would be better if they allowed you to create three main pawns and leave the summon pawn thing as optional. I just want to walk around the world with my 3 perfect husbandos but all you gays only create big titted thots.
it could be a chain mace or it could be a incense type thing for conjuring. conjurer/warlock class would cool where you can summon spirits, create bridges to close gaps, and makeshift weapons on the fly like using fire incense to create a flame wall.
it could be a chain mace or it could be a incense type thing for conjuring. conjurer/warlock class would cool where you can summon spirits, create bridges to close gaps, and makeshift weapons on the fly like using fire incense to create a flame wall.
it could be a chain mace or it could be a incense type thing for conjuring. conjurer/warlock class would cool where you can summon spirits, create bridges to close gaps, and makeshift weapons on the fly like using fire incense to create a flame wall.
They showed that clip specifically when Itsuno confirmed new vocations in the developer trailer thing
why do you think those responses don't know what a censer is?
do you know what a censer is? Because responding to >look at this guy holding a censer, maybe he's a new priest class that uses one as their weapon like a flail
with >look at this picture of a priest guy holding a censer, bet you feel moronic now, huh?
doesn't really follow.
I feel like it was a win-win regardless if it was offline or had coop. From what we've seen it's literally just Dragons Dogma re-imagined with an actual budget.
What is raidnig/dungeons like in ddo? I wanna try hosting for a 3 of my friends, but I think dungeon parties are fixed to 8 players? Is there no scaling for smaller groups? Would prefer if the game was playable with 4 people, but I guess I'll have to get more?
I don't know much about the game. Played for a few hours with a very bad translation patch many years ago, but didn't get very far. Don't know whether 8man dungeons are the only option or there's some other content with larger/smaller groups
they help out with online operations in other areas. for example capcom id doesn't run itself. someones gotta support all the cross server shit between street fighter, exoprimal, etc.
Co op was always supposed to be part of the game.
It would work perfectly in the intended area, the endless tower where pawns can't follow.
It should be in dd2
You were fooled by Ganker the game is shit and I will explain why:
>No indication of where roads lead >No hint to what enemies are weak to >No hint of when enemies are alone or in groups >No warning to avoid status effects >No clue to which items are masterworks
People who want coop in Dragon's Dogma have not understood what Dragon's Dogma is about. It's like wanting to play a Devil May Cry game exclusively with a gun.
>play the first game to completion >damn that was fun, would be more fun with a friend >too bad
There's literally no defending not having co-op, you're morons in the same vein of console war subhumans, my side good, your side bad, only my opinion matters, everyone else is wrong, you never grew past middle school.
And it plays nothing like DD, two entirely different games. >bro if if you want to play tetris, there's Jenga, it has blocks too
I've already played all Monster Hunter games to exhaustion, I've also played DD in single-player to exhaustion, playing it co-op would be a great experience, yet you're advocating against this because... well, you don't really have a reason, except to stick it to those co-op people, because you're still mentally an infant whose brain is all black and white, left and right.
Co op was always supposed to be part of the game.
It would work perfectly in the intended area, the endless tower where pawns can't follow.
It should be in dd2
>playing it co-op would be a great experience
No it wouldn't be. Dragon's Dogma Online already felt quite different. The whole thing about Dragon's Dogma is that you have the only interaction you've got with others players is via their custom-made pawns. You fricking morons want to ruin everything with useless multiplayer shit all the time.
Why? If I like a game and it could potentially have co-op, why do you want to take that away? What's in it for you? What do you gain or lose from co-op being there or not being there? Why should I go play other games if I want to play this one?
You're being completely irrational with your whinings.
11 months ago
Anonymous
They would need to accommodate the design for this. And I've played enough Dragon's Dogma online to know that people think that this would be a good idea but it isn't. You'll end up with something that's not DD anymore.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>They would need to accommodate the design for this
You have no proof of this, and never will until such a system is implemented, you're just an ass-pull personified
There were people that played DDO solo and were not hindered despite the game being balanced to online play, and you think the opposite would be detrimental to DD2
You act like co-op is mandatory system to partake it, this is where you argument falls, because it's a single-player first and foremost, the OPTION for co-op would be there for those who want it. You're not being forced to partake in at gunpoint, you play the game the way you want. You wanting to take that option away from people is the issue here, and that's entirely driven by your ego and narcissism.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Are you surprised that someone is who is likely alienated from his peers would dislike the idea that people can play the same game as he can but with friends? These clowns are the same people who cry about the elden ring seamless coop mod
You don't have to partake in the multiplayer.
What are you losing if the pawn system is still there, but people who want to opt in for co-op can do so?
How would it work then, o' Sir Gideon Ofnir, the All Knowing? >Just as Dark Souls coop doesn't work.
It works how you would except it to work, and it's there for those who want to do it. This takes nothing away from the core experience.
All you people whining about coop, just leave it. It's not going to happen otherwise they would've already said it would have it. I dunno why this thread exists. Your whining wont make it happen.
Why would they be facing each other if they're playing a single-player game?
You disingenuous fricks are nothing but full of shit.
Fixed your shit pic.
Why would they be facing each other if they're playing a single-player game?
You disingenuous fricks are nothing but full of shit.
Fixed your shit pic.
This is also good
They trading cards (pawns) you dumb baboon Black person.
I hope we see a tie-in inside the new Dragon Age game and the new Dragon's Dogma game. Just a small little Easter Egg in both acknowledging the mutual love and respect the dev teams have for each other.
Everyone on Ganker wanted co-op until they announced it was gonna be a singleplayer game. Then the shills started saying they never wanted it and it was a good decision
i wanted co-op but it still looks like a fun time
hope the world is bigger and more open
and not open as in you can go anywhere from the start
i hope there is shit that requires skills and such to pass
maybe a broken bridge you need to float over or get thrown over
nice
hope they keep the nights dark and dangerous as well
i will never forget how cool it was when a chimera lept out of the darkness into the circle of light provided by my lantern
>First game is cut short >Given zero marketing >Pretty much kicked out unfinished to earn loose change >Still gets big following and dedicated fanbase >Itsuno given opportunity to make DMCV however he wants >It's a missive success, earning big dollaroos
I feel like Capcom is going to give Itsuno full creative freedom and 100% trust with DD2. What we've seen so far indicates this, it's looking to keep all the quirks of the original and build upon them instead of remolding it to current AAA trends like happens with a lot of sequels/remakes/reboots these days. Cursed monkey paw BTFO by lucky rabbit foot.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's going to be said if it flops
11 months ago
Anonymous
>It's going to be said if it flops
True, but either way it will exist. I'm getting my biggest and most unlikely vidya wish granted and it's everything I wanted. The worse case scenario is it doesn't do well enough for a DD3, but I still get DD2 either way. All my other wishes were cursed, like Mirror's Edge 2.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Well looking it up DD sold about 7 million units total. DMC5, which was considered a big success, sold 6.5 by the start of this year. Obviously it did it in a way shorter time frame, but I think DD2 stands a decent chance at being successful if that's the level of sales they're going in expecting. Games just sell more in general nowadays compared to 2012. I know that feel about cursed wishes, for me it was Rage
11 months ago
Anonymous
>agon's dog
11 months ago
Anonymous
>agon's dog
11 months ago
Anonymous
I honestly don't see how it could be shit. It's literally the first game but with expanded content and better graphics. Absolute worst case it will be mediocre
11 months ago
Anonymous
Flopping does not mean being bad.
11 months ago
Anonymous
didn't itsuno also say "im making DD2 after DMC V or im fricking out of here"
or am i thinking of something else?
11 months ago
Anonymous
yeah that was him
11 months ago
Anonymous
nta but Itsuno said something along the lines of passing the torch and retiring or making indie games iirc
11 months ago
Anonymous
i am certain this guy would direct some fun indies if that were to happen if hes responsible for even half of the stuff dragons dogma
11 months ago
Anonymous
Hell yeah, we're going home DD bros. I love the positivity and anticipation of good things to come.
? The nights were never dark and dangerous. There's a reason literally everyone brings up that one chimera. One single spot in the entire map slightly more risky in night (except actually you can just run away with 0 things the enemy can do about it)
Otherwise all it did was spawn skeletons, who get stunlocked to death by spamming stinger, some of the weakest enemies in the entire game
I CANT KILL THE GRIFFON BY MYSELF AND MY PAWNS ARE moronic I NEED MY OVERPOWERED FRIEND TO KILL IT FOR ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Just use one of your 5000 healing items you find every 3 steps and grab and smash in its blind spot while spamming potions
why?
No content balanced around other people, only your ability matters.
No having to worry about people trying to be sociable at you in a game you're playing to immerse into the world.
No gays dressing up as women because they can't be women irl then infecting your game.
No elgoblino's that stick out like the thousands SF6 got day 1.
No overpowered people joining games to ruin them with their bullshit.
No hackers cheating in items to dump on the floor.
Etc etc
Tons of shit to be gained by adding coop, while all you gain from adding it is appealing to people so bad at games that even one which gives you a near infinite supply of healing items that take 0 time to use is 'too hard'
yeah we only play final fantasy 15 for straight dudes such as ourselves
11 months ago
Anonymous
Implying I play homosexual games.
I don't get why reading is hard. I haven't played a FF since 13. It sucked. Last good FF was 12, which starred a heterosexual male, such as myself.
I assume this is a deflection tactic? Barry is a thread buggyman for threads I don't visit, but for some reason being brought up here? Next time you should just spam buzzwords. Much easier.
Cope, seethe.
11 months ago
Anonymous
nobody cares dude get a life
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not the one so invested in Ganker I bring up completely different people in unrelated threads and get mad people discuss the game the thread is about instead of 2 different other games.
I hope your life gets better. You should start by getting a job or leaving the house. I believe in you. You can stop being a schizo. Cope, seethe.
11 months ago
Anonymous
didn't read
11 months ago
Anonymous
Cope, seethe
11 months ago
Anonymous
get a life
11 months ago
Anonymous
Cope, seethe
11 months ago
Anonymous
thanks for the you but still didnt read
11 months ago
Anonymous
Cope, seethe
Are you telling the cope and seethe guy to get a life or are you telling the get a life guy to cope and seethe? Hmmm
I dunno he's a schizo yelling about some FF fan in a DD thread so I'm just telling him buzzwords.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Are you telling the cope and seethe guy to get a life or are you telling the get a life guy to cope and seethe? Hmmm
co-op tards really believe that you can just add that shit with no trade-off whatsoever or compromising resources etc.
don't they understand that would mean checking literally every single part of the game? it's not like Monster Hunter where you have isolated hunt structure, you have entire fricking Open World
not to mention other things like balancing or skills that slow down time etc.
>devs take 10 years to make the exact same game again >they just didn't have the resources for co-op, literally impossible!
Your opinion of the devs isn't very high is it?
As a singleplayer game there's not much reason to overly balance the game because you can just choose to not use the most op shit.
In coop people will use the most OP shit in a deluded belief it makes them better than other people.
Its one more reason not to add coop.
If DD1 had coop people would literally do nothing but buffed explosive arrows and ruin basically every fight
I will never understand why morons want coop in DD just play MH it's the same shit without the goblins. In MHW you still get lost as frick in the ancient forest and spend 20 minutes trying to find the monster.
>want to hire some sorcerer pawn >every option has nothing but shitty slow spells that make such a pawn completely useless considering they don't know what positioning is
Why do you Black folk keep giving your pawns maelstrom (I fricking love not seeing anything), bolide, gicel, etc without lassitude and quicker spells?
>fighting monsters >suddenly screen goes black >"goddamit someone cast blind on me" >chug potion to fix it >doesn't fix it >realize it's not blindness but me standing in the middle of a maelstorm that my pawn cast to kill some chaff
it deals massive damage and sucks the smaller targets in. Hope DD2 lets your pawn switch between weaker and stronger variants of the same spell depending on the enemy and their AI.
I CANT KILL THE GRIFFON BY MYSELF AND MY PAWNS ARE moronic I NEED MY OVERPOWERED FRIEND TO KILL IT FOR ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>buy game >it doesn't have coop >what the FRICK >wow goblins hunt in packs and are weak to fire thanks rock >holy crap this hydra qte was easy as HECK >wow what a hot babagjinga brown girl casca from berk is in this game >why wont this stupid ox move I kicked him 10 times >where is the the hot berkserk girl I need SEX
unistalled
Is it possible to mod NPC clothing? There should be a mod to give Mercedes the Wyrmhunt Mantle + Steel Chestplay + Silk Underwear + Red Overknee Boots.
She's quite hard to get since she fricks off. I heard that during her duel there's actually a third outcome if you interrupt it at the very end but before she's defeated, but I'm not sure if it's true
I recently got dragon’s dogma a couple days ago with no prior knowledge. Honestly the game feels like it was meant for co-op, but then they backed out at the last minute for cpus. I can see why people would want multiplayer
>entire story of 1 is the pawn system >hurr idk what it changes if I just have my friend Steve pilot it!!
Unironically kys my homie you clearly didn’t even play this game.
What would it change homosexual. Pawns are created and are then loyal to the main character. That’s it. Having Richard control my pawn from across the planet isn’t going change that. I don’t even care about multiplayer, I just said I could see why people would want it
I don't mind the normies getting DD2, at all.
Selling a ton would be nice and open the door for a possible DD3.
Meanwhile Itsuno has Capcom by the balls so there's no way they force him to change things in DD3 to appeal to normies.
In a perfect world sure i'd like the option of co-op
Realisticaly i only want it in a very limited fashion, like a bbi dungeon where it's enabled
Above all i want a good single player experience like DD1 so ultimately i don't care at all.
every capcom game these days gets post release patches/dlc. so whats stopping them from adding in a co-op dungeon or some shit after you beat the game.
me
Itsuno was going to add co-op then woke up to the head of a hydra on his bed.
don't care
>still got Dragon's GODma 2
>still no co-op at launch
>still masterwork all
you are now here:
>DD2 will has more monsters
>DD2 will has more vocations & skills
>DD2 will has 4x the size of DD1
>DD2 will has 14 years old children that can be romance
>still no co-op at launch
we still know very little of the game. they could very well announce it next year. remember that capcom is trying to push capcom id to all their games now.
i might has to change the pasta in the future. But that will do for now
tbh i have no problem with co-op. But the co-op beggers really are annoying
fair enough. its mainly zoomers whining about no co-op because for whatever reason they can't imagine a single player game without being forced into some "online community" or some shit.
well, most of them are from wave of new "fan", so we shouldn't be surprise
Imagine how sad an existence they live, not being able to appreciate a game by themselves.
And on the flip side, imagine being a jaded butthole that only wants single player games to themselves and not give people the choice of co-op
You have no defense for not including co-op, once you've played through a game, it'd be incredible to be able to share the joy with someone else in an entirely different way. You probably can't imagine that because you have no frame of reference of having friends. Such a sad existence indeed.
The point of pawns is to incite discussion about the game
>hey man, I hired your pawn and they did X and Y, what the hell have you been teaching them?
>I saw a pawn able to do Z and J, how do I train my pawn to be like that?
>hire my cute pawn guys!
Co-op can incite the same discussion, but with how players today just use it for pseudo socializing rather than enjoying the game together, I'd rather have co-op not added on launch
>choice
This is the problem, if the game is designed with coop it has to make changes to the core gameplay anon, its less a choice and more of a different experience, and inferior one if it comes to the addition of multiplayer. See RE4 going to RE5 for example, just beause you dont engage with it doesnt mean it hasnt affected the gameplay and had changes made around it. They have to change how inventory works, redesign encounters and balance the combat, pacing and even the capabilities of the players, again, even if you dont engage with it, that shit is now part of your single player experience.
If a game started as a singleplayer franchise and people loved it, its probably a bad idea to make the sequel a multiplayer game. The changes you would have to make around it could result in a completely different kind of game. I want more of DD, not more of a hypothetical DD.
>if the game is designed with coop it has to make changes to the core gameplay anon
No. That's what you assume. There is no reason to make that assumption.
In DD you pause to use inventory, try and make that work in multiplayer without changing anything to do with how players manage their inventory themselves.
summoned players don't pause. or no pause during coop. easy
Youre expected to sort through your inventory in the middle of real time combat to heal and restore stamina using multiple items?
>run out of stamina or low health
>now have to run around in real time, open your inventory spam use of the appropriate item, hopefully avoid whatever is attacking you, then reengage
Do you want this? Try to imagine the logistics of that with your hand anons. There is no hotbar for items in DD, so this is the only way to get to your healing, or if you are climbing and run out of stamina you have to do this to get stamina so you dont fall off. Try to imagine having to move the character, navigate the inventory which is covering the screen and spam use on an item in the middle of DDs combat. Do you really expect that would stay the same just in real time and that they wouldnt change this or rebalance items?
This shit works in Souls games because they have an item bar in those games where there is a fixed amount of healing you can have, so there is no worry about having to go into the inventory in the middle of combat to pop a heal, DD does not do that, you take as much as you are willing to carry in DD.
homie, you can put a healing item on a shortcut button
Oh, like monster hunter? Why don't you just go play that
No. monhun is trash.
you can do that in DD already, you fricking moron
What's the shortcut button for healing items in dragons dogma?
are you pulling my leg?
i'm not saying it should be simplified. i'm saying it should be made with out being shit
And Im saying that it will be simplified to make it work, which means changes. I dont want changes, I just want DD but more. We had DD coop with DDO, look at all the changes they made there to accomodate that it was multiplayer. It wasnt shit, but my god it was not anything like DD as it was and wasnt as good, even with multiplayer. You can say it doesnt need to be shit, but the reason why its always shit is because they are fundamentally making a different kind of game when they have to consider online as a feature in any game.
I just want DD2 man, not DD with "lots of changes"
i just realized i don't even want coop in there myself. he said they wont do that, so our discussion is moot anyway
Everyone who wanted DD won in the end regardless. People pining for COOP at least will have more of the game they liked before, at the very least, and thats something to be happy about, not dissapointed.
Hold r1 and l1 and press the direction button to the item you have registered to the spot.
I play both what now moron
>he doesn't know about hotkeys in DDDA
Anon-kun I...
Right, now what about stamina, or anything else you might need, should we just add a hotbar to the game? Im not oppose to this by the way, my point is that you would have to change the game from what DD1 was in order to accomodate coop, so the argument that it wouldnt need to change if they slapped it on is rather short sighted.
Look at DDO and DD1, everything was simplified and shaved off, and it wasnt a better game.
Just... don't pause the game???
Just make it like souls where the game doesn't pause when you open your inventory. Simple
The game doesn't need to be any more challenging than it already is
DD1 was not challenging at all, even on hard mode.
Not having the game pause in co op does not make the game harder.
You're a fricking moron.
Maybe you should challenge yourself in real life and stop working at mcdonalds.
Maybe you should find proper arguments instead of projecting.
oof touched a nerve, my mcgriddle is getting cold
I accept your concession.
well you never delivered me my concession so I refunded hope you get fired
You have 3 other people in your party at all times. The game is only challenging if you intentionally handicap yourself
Baby tier: normal mode
Very normal: hard mode
Hard: no healing hard mode
Very hard: solo no healing hard mode
Baby tier: hard mode
Normal mode: hard mode level 1 BBI
Hard: hard mode level 1 BBI no healing
Very hard: hard mode level 1 BBI no healing only starting equipment
Level 1 as in, go in bbi at level 1?
Yes. Or as close as you can get, the cyclops might level you up
How about staying at level one with mods, hard mode no healing, bbi and banned tool items.
>banned tool items
Oh yeah, definitely should have included that so no throwblasts
Then you sprinkle red vocation only on top i guess. This game truly lets you customize your difficulty any way you like. Most of its overpowered systems are not fun to use anyway so you can cut them and still have a great experience.
Saints Row 2, 3 and 4 did a pretty good job with the optional co-op. They could've done it like that
>wanting to cooperate with a human instead of an AI in a game about cooperation
>must be a live service zoomer
>or some shit
Why are you moronic?
capcom made monster hunter just for you
>No rebuttal
>wont acknowledge their bad faith argument
Just admit you're contrarians
again capcom made monster hunter just for (you)
I will have the last laugh and co op will be in da gam soon jerk boomers
>we still know very little of the game. they could very well announce it next year.
they have already states outright there will be NO co-op for the main game
I'm tired of people misinterpreting the 4x size statement.
It's CONTENT. Not map size you fricking morons.
Sub 50 IQ slags like you don't remember or never played the game because it was a huge fricking map.
There was a reason we were given port crystals to monopolize our own paths.
Can't wait to fight 4 times the recolors of harpys, wolves and goblins!
same but unironically
Is this supposed to be some gotcha like I'm supposed to be upset?
Recolors would obviously be better than more empty ass world to traverse.
What exactly was going through your bot programming when you decided to hit submit post?
You know the alternative to recolors isn't just an empty map right? You could have new monsters instead. moron
go back to seething in zelda threads oh wait nobody is talking about zelda anymore
Why would i be a fan of zelda? That game is also littered with recolors of existing enemies. Come back when you have something of substance to say
zippidy doo da zippidy day you are a gay and looked at what i had to say
get a job
didn't they say it was size? am i missremembering?
I could see it getting pvp or coop as a dlc area, but I doubt he's ever going to put coop in the main game since that goes against the core concept he had for the game.
>whats stopping them from adding in a co-op dungeon or some shit after you beat the game.
This homie think adding coop in game is as easy as flipping “coop mode: on” switch at Capcom’s HQ
>This homie think adding coop in game is as easy as flipping “coop mode: on” switch at Capcom’s HQ
it probably is. getting co-op to work in kh3 was just modding a switch in unreal engine. i imagine its the same for re engine. when you have generic engines that do generic things they tend to be like that.
>i know nothing about this topic but it's probably easy to do
dunning kruger effect hard at work as usual
You don’t either
You’re both moronic, you’ve never made a game and never will
DD2 will probably use legacy codes from DD1’s MTFramework engine. So to implement coop, they have to go back through those archaic codes to implement netcode, as well as balancing and shit.
Dogma Balls lmao
Legend of Zelda: Lick of the Citrus
Strike the tail!
Their kind hates ice and fire both!
We need but sever the tail!
Dumb lizard
he slurpin
I was never expecting coop, but would have been a nice side feature if done in a way where it was limited. Maybe like DMC where you can sometimes fight alongside others, or restricted to areas like certain dungeons, or bosses like Ur-Dragon.
Ur-Dragon but with a team of people also trying to kill it would be cool. Whole game doesn’t need to be co-op
this, a side activity with other arisen instead of pawns would be cool. maybe in DLC?
Co-op is in dough?
Imagine all those filtered by the first game, thos who don't know where all roads lead.
shit game for mentally ill literal discord troony cultists
the sequel will be equally shitty and aimed at the same demographic
But, why? What's there to be upset about with Dragon's Dogma?
Anon! The other western AAA uggo drivel being spoonfed to the masses!
It's not a nintendo game.
Eric, go back to your Famitsu threads.
Way to prove them right moron
About what?
It has the gall to not be PS5 exclusive. Notice they ALWAYS do this to games not on the PS5 only.
I don't understand, aren't these the same people that were trying to boycott Elden Ring? Now they want to do the same to this game by comparing it to Elden Ring?
Your mistaken assumption is that they care about videogames and not just shitting up the board
more proof that xenogays are the most mentally unhinged posters on Ganker
>Salvation discord channel.png
Nobody bought your dragon age spam?
Everyone who talks about this game here is a clear pedophile. Game is just okay but its fanbase is truly disgusting.
But enough about New Vegas
The moment I physically flinched, but gained my footing shortly after. I do believe it is going to be a good game.
I need to take a break from the internet
Unable to apply old tactics, now discord tourists aim to create a controversy on the coop to make newfrens fight and lower the quality of discussion
the co-op debate is the easiest to have a full on flame war right now. But it's not just here, almost every forum or website you look, you can see the heated co-op debate( i wouldn't recommend you go on twitter right now)
I wish they added coop not because i want it but to see which new excuse tendies would pull to doompost the game
Their kind hates cope and seethe both!
i still find it funny they gave dd's combat a 6 and skyrims combat a 9.5
Skyrims combat is a 9.5 if you install mods, otherwise it’s like a 6. DD is easily a 9.5 and really my only complaint is we didn’t get more skills to play with and we couldn’t set more than a handful.
>skyrim combat is a 9.5 with mods
shit give me a link
>Skyrims combat is a 9.5 if you install mods
then it’s not skyrims combat then is it?
is there skyrim combat mods that doesn't turn it into dark souls wannabe ripoff?
wut mods
Yeah no it's fricking not, any mods that significantly change combat mechanics are a janky mess
Is this the best you can muster?
A comparison to an undead game released multiple times across multiple platforms across a decade to hide the fact that the proceeding game is not but a glimmer in the developer's eye?
>Skyrim meets Dark Souls
How in any way is it related to Dark Souls? Fricking journalists.
Some new DD steam reviews say it's a mix of skyrim x eldritch bracelet
So newbies
Yes
https://steamcommunity.com/id/wrathra/recommended/367500/
Disgustan
>DD comes out
>gets compared to Skyrim
>11-12 years later, DD2 comes out
>gets compared to Skyrim
guess the cycle never ends
>>11-12 years later
>skyrim also comes out
>Skyrim
>though the up close weapon combat is still awkward
>9.5
the state
Surely there is quite high crossover between DD and Skyrim i.e. most people will enjoy both? Same goes for Elden Ring. I agree DD is a 7-8/10 game at best and is the wartiest of the 3, here's to hoping DD2 can be an all around superior game.
>Pawns are completely useless
...what?
You cant really blame them for this but there are lots of people whos experience of the game is taking almost entirely guardian pawns and not knowing why they arent doing anything.
I really hope in 2 there is more clear outlines of behaviours and customizing them, knowing how bad some inclinations are it is shocking how many people are using them, almost certianly because they dont know how to change them, or even that you can.
It really is annoying as frick starting a new character and seeing every pawn with guardian/nexus inclinations. I hope they change that shit or at least explain it because I didn't know it either until 50 hours in when I started looking shit up.
Big franchise games will always get their flaws overlooked and get 2-4 points added based on name alone.
Pokemon is the most brazen example of that where it's games are like solid 4/10s yet still get 8-9/10 from outlets.
Dragons Dogma gets that score because it's a new IP so is treated more harshly.
>mini-games
these Black folk don't even bother playing the game
I like how sound is just one category. Like skyrim deserves a 10 for it's soundtrack, but the rest of the sound design is mediocre.
WHAT FRICKING MINIGAMES
you don't remember the mini game of which pawn get thrown into the brine?
>Celebrating Capcom NOT including a feature that would improve the game
Bravo DDgays, you really showed us. In all seriousness I don't think anyone really cares all that much, you guys are definitely insane.
>they added a multiplayer feature to Fallout, its a better game now
>they made elder Scrolls a multiplayer game, its a better game now
DDO existed, DD1 was a better game still. How many times does it need to happen before you realize that multiplayer is not something you can slap onto a game and it just makes it better, it just makes it differnet.
>watch simmons reaction
>him and his entire chat cry about lack of coop
delicious tears I hate that fat frick
wonder why he doesn't cry about lack of coop in xenoblade
i find it funny how Maxmillian, a guy that didnt even bother finishing the base game let alone play the dlc, was going crazy over the trailer meanwhile Nihil, the guy whose entire channel is about dragons dogma was like "yeah looks pretty cool"
>someone whose entire brand is manufactured hype was more hype than someone else
Wow no way?
I was hoping for something like 2 player co-op in at least some capacity, if for no other reason than being able to teach pawns how to do some absolutely insane shit that would otherwise be impractical if not impossible to teach solo, and avoid less situations like that fricking magic golem spot in BBI that has a medal if you don't have a physical bow, your pretty fricked, and good luck getting a pawn to shoot it
I laugh at myself for thinking they'd announce a release date the the showcase. I pray it's not absolutely long off. march 2024 at the latest please.
people that want coop completely missed the point of the game
>no co-op
dead on arrival
ITT: I have not friends
good morning sir
>No matter the thread, he replies to posts accusing him of being himself
Fine, you caught me. Just know that I'm also the guy in the car with the tinted windows that always follows you around and I'm NEVER going to stop. In fact I'm outside of your house right now.
don't turn around
steve is such a handsome guy
This anti co-op sentiment seems like a raid. It would have literally no downsides if it had co-op. It would just be a better pawn.
It's just not organic whatsoever.
I don't mind co-op, but I do mind them wasting resources on it or forcing a bunch of co-op only mechanics and balancing on an otherwise single player experience.
Almost all singe-player games suffer when they have a shared co-op experience and makes you feel like a second class citizen for not engaging in it.
Plenty of time to "balance" since it's literally just the same game.
different game engine so game math can't be 1:1
I'd rather they spend the effort perfecting the pawns. I'll take a unique an interesting mechanic any day over co-op.
But anon, think of the NPCs who can't enjoy a game without having a handler to guide or share the experience with them!
What a time to be alive, to see "people" like you in a band of 4 NPC's going on adventures together.
A big reason a lot of people want coop is because you wouldn't have to change hardly anything. The game is already built around you having fairly competent and powerful allies despite being singleplayer.
Just letting you control your pawn in another players world would be adequate for the vast majority of people asking for it.
It's fine if they spend no effort on it like in Dark Souls, or add a special co-op zone or something post launch. But there is always gonna be balancing differences between a co-op game and singleplayer game.
>Just letting you control your pawn in another players world would be adequate for the vast majority of people asking for it.
I think we both know people would also scream at Capcom for not having shared world progression and a bunch of stuff like that if that was the case.
>balancing differences between a co-op game and singleplayer game.
And now balancegays are coming too
Gods forbid
Balancegays are one of the last things we need, followed by MMOgays and their dps-checks
Kind of the opposite, I don't want perfect balancing, which is why I prefer singleplayer games. When co-op and other multiplayer features enter the equation, then suddenly having two players using Tenfold Flurry or whatever at the same time is too OP, so now that skill needs to be nerfed, and the entire game just ends up being no-fun allowed.
>then suddenly having two players using Tenfold Flurry or whatever at the same time is too OP
A thing you can do in DD1?
Yes? Tenfold Flurry is a fricking beast, especially with blast arrows. That and Brain Splitter are so much fun to use. I don't want every skill to feel weak as shit because they were play-tested with multiple players.
Just play Warframe or some shit if you want co-op.
>Yes? Tenfold Flurry is a fricking beast, especially with blast arrows.
Yes, and two characters using tenfold furry and blast arrows is already possible in DD1.
Should that get "balanced" out?
Frick of balancegay, already happens in DD1
>A big reason a lot of people want coop is because you wouldn't have to change hardly anything.
DDON had coop and they had to remove most of the physics stuff, being able to pick up objects, grapple enemies etc because of the extra load of synchronization across multiple players
A big reason a lot of people want coop is because they are moronic and don't understand the extra development time needed to make it work. The game is already built around you having fairly competent and powerful allies despite being singleplayer.
Just letting you control your pawn in another players world would be inadequate despite the vast majority aka normalgays and those filtered by the first game of people asking for it.
I bet your troony discord found that very humorous
I bet your troony discord found that very humorous
That’s because it is one
Every time a thread is started it’s immediately brought up and the thread goes to shit
Imagine being a Scott Nomates loser in 2023... Wow.
>random smoothbrain never noticed mason nor the legit house-slaves the Duke had in the first game.
notice how its all zoomer accounts. you can confirm by going on their profile, see profile creation date usually within the last couple of years because zoomers just got a iphone or tablet, and their favorites/likes/subscriptions are all for display which is all zoomer shit like pewdiepie,asmongold,twitch and other slop streamers.
baza
OP here, I forgot I was on Gankereddit during summer vacation, my mistake.
>you can climb and attack monsters
>IS LIKE SKYRIM AND ELDER RING/DARK SOULS!!!!!!!1111!!!!11
Is fricking people moron?
>questioning normalgays' logic
yes
>Is fricking people moron
Yes, fricking people is moronic. You should only frick horses.
V3 never ever
now you know how mmogays feel when every game is now called a mmo because it has online and a hub
Why are you schizos hating on coop so much? It's the logical next step. I'm still going to play dd2 and I'm sure it'll be great but the hate that coop gets is just weird as hell.
the next logical step is for you to grab a rope and do the dangan and kys
>you schizos
You answered your own question.
Because frick you moron.
Anyone that wanted coop factually did not play the first game.
My brother and I both did and despite loving the game and playing the shit out of it we kept going on about how it would be fricking epic to go adventuran together.
Sorry you've never had friends or siblings to share your hobbies with.
play monster hunter homosexual I'm sure your brother is now your sister anyway assuming he is still alive
t.
unloved child with no friends
sorry to hear that hopefully your mother finds a new Black to breed her
>he's Asian
explains a lot
>play monster hunter
No, I don't play homosexual shit. Why are you so bitter, anon?
I'm bitter because I told you to play a game? lol only on Ganker
Come on anon, the mention of no friends obviously triggered you otherwise you wouldn't ree on about my brother trooning out.
At least you admit he trooned out I respect you for that must be hard.
Nope, he didn't, that's just something you made up in your head.
Take your meds dude.
It's just a joke man but you took it really serious so there is clearly some shit going on I hope you and your brother get better.
People like you are future troons in the making, you're so obsessed with trannies, your entire brain is consumed by them, actually rent free.
Post your time.
I remember a game with the same problem... Just Cause 2 and 3... in the end they got some multiplayer workaround.
The original game's design documents had a concept for a dungeon where you'd be able to co-op. All Itsuno needs to do is dig that up and implement it in an expansion to silence the co-opgays
Who tells you isn't in the game already?
wtf why doesn't starfields have coop
wtf why doesn't xenoblade 69 have coop
wtf why doesn't ff superbowl xxvi have coop
wtf why does purse owner 3 rewienered have coop
why doesnt xenoblade 69 or ff superbowl xxvi have coop?
because you touch yourself at night
shiet homie purse owner 3 finally has coop we fricking won
literally no reason all bethesda games dont have coop
its stupid that they dont
the games are already janky by default
enjoying that shit with a friend wouldn't take anyone out of it
Fricking why Cooking Mama don't have coop!?
WHY THE HECK didn't totk have coop? Even botw had a multiplayer mod could nintendo not afford the modders or something? Fricking STUPID!!!
>WHY THE HECK didn't totk have coop?
Because it's a shit game and franchise to begin with
what the HECK?! Ganker told me dragons dogma is the most 7/10 game of all time though bruhs?!
I was talking about zeldor, esl.
What is zeldor esl?
wtf bros why doesn't sex have coop? I'm tired of playing alone
wtf bros why cant Ganker have co-op? i cant invite my bros to shitpost because we're all anonymous. how do i sign up for a Ganker id?
https://www.Ganker.org/pass
thats a battle pass wheres the account sign up
https://www.Ganker.org/faq#trip
Thanks I made my account.
imagine thinking japs are capable of developing any fleshed out mechanics for a game that didn't had them in the first place
literally the most useless expensive coders there are
how many black women have you added to your game
literally none and I've been working on the industry for 16 years
You've been cleaning video game roofs for 16 years?
no coop, no incentive to buy
pirate's life for me
I'm all out of laughs worrying if my PC is going to struggle to play DD2.
Do you think there will be a hand to hand (claw) vocation now that the beast race is in?
Hopefully not, dragons should be fought with steel and magick, not weebshit.
>if my PC is going to struggle to play DD2.
you have until next year to a PC that's on par with a xbox series s, a console that costs $200 used at gamestop or other places.
surely we will get the pc
Doesn't RE engine generally run pretty well?
yeah but this is the first game to not come out ps4/xbox one. so its only going to be using ssd and next gen stuff.
Beast race seem to share the same skeleton as the humans so I don't think they'll have any racial abilities other than visual appearance.
I'll never understand people who want LESS features for their game and think it's somehow good for the health of the game
If they included co-op, it wouldn't take away from your single-player experience in any way, and the people who want to play co-op, could play their damn co-op
You literally have no argument against including co-op, your only motive is to be malignant towards people other than yourself, because you're a narcissist that plays games alone.
>it wouldn't take away from your single-player experience in any way
Then how come that is almost always the case?
The keyword here being "characters", not players.
>Should that get "balanced" out?
Frick no, which is why co-op fricks up a lot of singleplayer games.
>Frick no, which is why co-op fricks up a lot of singleplayer games.
You were literally arguing how co-op would frick the balance of the game because 2 players will be able to do what a player + pawn can already do. What the frick is your logic?
Learn how to read. I'M WORRIED THAT SHIT WILL GET PATCHED OUT because it's so much easier to exploit when it's two players vs someone who spend X amount of hours training an AI pawn.
Divinity OS, Victoria 3(and most modern Paradox games), Peace Walker, all the recent Diablo games, GTAV, RE5, Red Alert 3 springs to mind.
>X amount of hours training an AI pawn.
>give pawn only tenfold
>give them blast arrows when you want them to use em
whoa~!
>implying pawns ever use the items you give them
you never played the game
Yes, they do. Holy shit, get the frick out, tourist.
shut up newbie you are like lice to me i feed you to my cat
If a game is predominantly being developed as a co-op experience, of course it will be balanced around co-op.
Having a tacked on co-op system in a predominantly single-player game takes nothing away from the single-player experience. Look at Elden Ring. Nobody except turbo autismo-spergs are crying about the co-op, it takes nothing away from the single-player experience, the game is still balanced for single-player, the people who want to play it co-op, can do so.
The pawn system is already a green light to "multiplayer", if you allow one of the pawns to be replaced by an actual player, this wouldn't hurt the game in any capacity, it only gives people more options as to how they would like to experience the game.
I can't even imagine being someone who wants less features for their game.
You can't have your cake and eat it too, you want your favorite games to sell well and have sequels, yet you also want them to cater to the smallest possible demographic to sell maybe 1000 copies so that the studio can go bankrupt, try to think from perspectives other than your own for once.
Having a tacked on co-op system in a predominantly single-player game takes nothing away from the single-player experience.
See: Divinity OS, Victoria 3(and most modern Paradox games), Peace Walker, all the recent Diablo games, GTAV, RE5, Red Alert 3, Outward.
>this wouldn't hurt the game in any capacity,
Provided they don't balance the game around co-op, I agree. But that is a VERY rare thing.
>I can't even imagine being someone who wants less features for their game.
Because adding more features always detracts some other area. There is a limited amount of development time and resources available to any project, I'd rather they perfect a really cool an unique pawn mechanic vs wasting time on generic co-op.
>try to think from perspectives other than your own for once.
Kind of ironic considering everyone is crying about adding co-op to a sequel of a single-player game.
Guess that means you realized how shitty argument was?
>do you also cry about the inclusion of co-op in fromsoft games?
It could definitely be argued that certain online features can be a detractor yes. Like the let-down of exploring an cool new area only for the "reward" to be a co-op focused covenant you will never use, or locking certain items into invasions.
>why the frick do you care what other people are doing or are given the choice to do?
Because it affects me when games are balanced around co-op?
>Guess that means you realized how shitty argument was?
How? Because you can give pawns items?
Because you started screeching about random ESL shit?
>Because you can give pawns items?
No, because players will have way better in depth knowledge on the game mechanics and how to exploit them, and for some reason developers get really cranky about it as soon as online features start to be involved.
>otherwise you'd be giving reasons as to why that would be the case
They made the the secondary character in D:OS an awkward blank unimersive shell in single-player because it's a co-op feature.
They changed the entire pacing of how Victoria 3 plays because how pausing the game in multiplayer/co-op is tedious.
Peace walker had a bunch of co-op only items and features that were inaccessible to only 1 player, no matter what mode you played.
Diablo 3 onwards are always online, wannabe MMO's.
GTAV singleplayer was abandoned the second co-op became more profitable.
RE5 is borderline unplayable in singleplayer because of the moronic AI.
RA3 like 90% of the missions you were forced to play with an annoying AI partner.
>single day's work to code in
>you're obviously such a disingenuous fricking moron
Ironic.
>Having a tacked on co-op system in a predominantly single-player game takes nothing away from the single-player experience.
None of the games you mentioned apply, because since they're predominantly single-player games, the tacked on co-op changes absolutely nothing, other than give people the option for co-op, otherwise you'd be giving reasons as to why that would be the case, other than repeating the names of the games like a broken record. Case closed.
nta but DD2 is a single player game, you lost.
Why should I give a shit? I've played the first game for +160 hours
Adding co-op would take nothing away from the single-player experience, that is literally my one and only point here.
You're advocating for less features in a game.
Why not take away the whole game? Now nobody gets to play, hahaa dunk of those people who want to play it lmao XD
Sure you did.
Sure did, and would've loved to play the game later with a friend, but no
You're the cancer killing video games and sapping fun out of the hobby, have a nice day post-haste.
>WAAA WAAAA I WANT COOP
>Itsuno reveals DD2 is single player
>WAAA YOU ARE CANCER
babyrage
You are cancer regardless of what the director of the game has said
>babyrage
I rest my case
Doomposting trannies have no friends though. Stick to your discord.
Huh? Who's doomposting?
Also, what's wrong with discord? Do you not have friends?
You lost.
wtf is this
was there some weird ass mod abuse to supress dd threads over ff16 or some gay shit like that?
Lost what? What you're saying is complete hebrew to me because random iinternet personalities don't live rent free in my head
You're making zero sense to people who don't exist in your mental vacuum
>msg Josh
ofc some homosexual would be called josh, he sounds fat.
>You're the cancer killing video games
but anon that's YOU, co-op is not a good thing for dragon's dogma, it would undermine its one unique system
Undermine? Nobody's forcing you to play co-op if you have no friends, the pawns are still there, nobody is taking away your preferred way of playing the game.
So let's try that again, why is it not a good thing, since your only argument against it is completely moot?
it's a discordtroony who spams about coop ever since DD2 announcement and still melting down even after Chad Itsuno confirmed DD2 is single player game
i'm with you anon. making coop possible, but not mandatory is alright.
Adding a "generic co-op" is a single day's work to code in, no matter the scale of the game, you act like they'd have to start from scratch with it and waste tons of resources and months to do so. I'm sorry, I can't take you seriously anymore, you're obviously such a disingenuous fricking moron
>Then how come that is almost always the case?
Yet you can't name any examples, figures.
Red Alert 3
You actually have to elaborate as to why that would be the case
Also, I should mention I don't mind co-op "only" games. I don't get mad at Valheim or MonHun for having shit singleplayer when that was never their aim.
I just hate when predominantly singleplayer games/series have co-op shoved into them and makes singleplayer feel like a second class way of playing.
>pray they actually use it at the right time at the right enemy at the right weak-spot and not just waste all your arrows in a gobin
>not just waste all your arrows in a gobin
>when you want them to use em
dDURURRURRURRRRR
Guess that means you realized how shitty argument was?
One more time, this time in English, esl creature.
>I just hate when predominantly singleplayer games/series have co-op shoved into them and makes singleplayer feel like a second class way of playing.
This is some of the most asinine shit I've heard in a long while. You've got some mental illness to be taking issue to other people being given a choice to play co-op in a predominantly single-player game, do you also cry about the inclusion of co-op in fromsoft games?
Play your game alone, why the frick do you care what other people are doing or are given the choice to do?
>If they included co-op, it wouldn't take away from your single-player experience in any way
DYRBI
Co-op would mean less interaction with pawn sharing which is a big chunk of the game’s soul. So once again coop gays prove they are not real DD fans
started playing the first one and honestly I think it would be better if they allowed you to create three main pawns and leave the summon pawn thing as optional. I just want to walk around the world with my 3 perfect husbandos but all you gays only create big titted thots.
Guess what co-op homosexuals you lost. Cry as much as you want nobody cares because you fricking lost 🙂
Dragon Age 2 and Dragon's Dogma chads won.
Press button, get awesome is the universally accepted sign of quality in a game.
Lack of co-op really mindbroke the morons that were never going to play this game in the first place.
OP here, thanks for the laugh you stupid fricking morons.
I hope we get a summoner style vocation that plays similar to V from dmc.
So is that a censer or a mace? Are we getting like a priest class?
it could be a chain mace or it could be a incense type thing for conjuring. conjurer/warlock class would cool where you can summon spirits, create bridges to close gaps, and makeshift weapons on the fly like using fire incense to create a flame wall.
>chain
man just a chain would be fricking insane
parry attacks, bind enemies and trip giants
>chain mace
It's called a flail.
flail weapon class PLS!!!
They showed that clip specifically when Itsuno confirmed new vocations in the developer trailer thing
morons
Mason?
Behold, their Arc of Deliverance equivalent!
why do you think those responses don't know what a censer is?
do you know what a censer is? Because responding to
>look at this guy holding a censer, maybe he's a new priest class that uses one as their weapon like a flail
with
>look at this picture of a priest guy holding a censer, bet you feel moronic now, huh?
doesn't really follow.
homie they were questioning whether it was a mace or a censer so I provided a pic to prove they're blind morons.
Check your autism, homosexual.
Black person its 3am. i know what a censer is. i dont have to be literal 24/7 on Ganker.
In the second trailer they said there is new classes. Also noticed that there is some kind of polearm or twinblade.
>polearm or twinblade
Looked like a staff to me. I suspect there'll be a bunch of new weapons.
>staff
OPEN YOUR EYES
Here, I'll post it again just for you
Ahh I see, it expands during attack. Interesting, must have missed that during the showcase.
I'm a sword and board gay for like but man, that looks cool as frick
replaying the first game after 8 years or so.
I forgot how kino it was.
No co-op is a good thing.
why?
To make co-optrannies seeth.
Autism
I feel like it was a win-win regardless if it was offline or had coop. From what we've seen it's literally just Dragons Dogma re-imagined with an actual budget.
I am looking forward to pressing a button and getting an awesome animation.
What is raidnig/dungeons like in ddo? I wanna try hosting for a 3 of my friends, but I think dungeon parties are fixed to 8 players? Is there no scaling for smaller groups? Would prefer if the game was playable with 4 people, but I guess I'll have to get more?
Lol, raidnig
I don't know much about the game. Played for a few hours with a very bad translation patch many years ago, but didn't get very far. Don't know whether 8man dungeons are the only option or there's some other content with larger/smaller groups
So what exactly is the DDO team doing now that it got shut down? They clearly weren't moved onto the DD2 team because it has no coop.
they help out with online operations in other areas. for example capcom id doesn't run itself. someones gotta support all the cross server shit between street fighter, exoprimal, etc.
So is this b***h going to be the new Madeleine or Mercedes?
I hope she's another cranky Morrigan/Yennifer mage waifu.
>not posting the 4k screenshot
high sexual energy
Even what looks like the starter pawn is cute.
sending cute pawns back to the rift is going to be extra painful this time around uh
She looks like Scarlett Johansson
Not at all.
She does resemble her, don't you think?
No, get some new glasses.
Co op was always supposed to be part of the game.
It would work perfectly in the intended area, the endless tower where pawns can't follow.
It should be in dd2
is that a sillouhette of auron from ffx
It’ll probably be there in 2 since they’re aiming to include all the cut shit
I want to go to the moon, and for it to be a proper dungeon
I hope we get an autistic romanceable character like Selene
You were fooled by Ganker the game is shit and I will explain why:
>No indication of where roads lead
>No hint to what enemies are weak to
>No hint of when enemies are alone or in groups
>No warning to avoid status effects
>No clue to which items are masterworks
I don't know how people defend this game.
Careful, morons might think you're being serious
>No indication of where roads lead
I fricking love how people still fall for this
i spent several hours looking for masterworks
I also enjoyed this post from a year ago. Thanks for copy pasting it.
People who want coop in Dragon's Dogma have not understood what Dragon's Dogma is about. It's like wanting to play a Devil May Cry game exclusively with a gun.
shut the frick up Travis
>co-op secondaries are seething
kek love to see it
>play the first game to completion
>damn that was fun, would be more fun with a friend
>too bad
There's literally no defending not having co-op, you're morons in the same vein of console war subhumans, my side good, your side bad, only my opinion matters, everyone else is wrong, you never grew past middle school.
see
You’re replying to discord shitposters
uh huh sure thing gaylord
Very intelligent reply, you should apply to be a politician.
jokes on you I'm your president
If you morons want to play Coop, Capcom has got the Monster Hunter franchise for you, which is all about coop
And it plays nothing like DD, two entirely different games.
>bro if if you want to play tetris, there's Jenga, it has blocks too
I've already played all Monster Hunter games to exhaustion, I've also played DD in single-player to exhaustion, playing it co-op would be a great experience, yet you're advocating against this because... well, you don't really have a reason, except to stick it to those co-op people, because you're still mentally an infant whose brain is all black and white, left and right.
The frick off play something else. Dragon's Dogma is not about coop. Never was.
"Game X was never about Y!" is not an argument for exclusion of co-op
Who benefits from it not being included?
People playing singleplayer
How do they benefit?
yes it was
>playing it co-op would be a great experience
No it wouldn't be. Dragon's Dogma Online already felt quite different. The whole thing about Dragon's Dogma is that you have the only interaction you've got with others players is via their custom-made pawns. You fricking morons want to ruin everything with useless multiplayer shit all the time.
2 player coop would be great. Just admit you have nobody to play with anon.
There are enough coop games out there. So play some of them?
Such as?
Why? If I like a game and it could potentially have co-op, why do you want to take that away? What's in it for you? What do you gain or lose from co-op being there or not being there? Why should I go play other games if I want to play this one?
You're being completely irrational with your whinings.
They would need to accommodate the design for this. And I've played enough Dragon's Dogma online to know that people think that this would be a good idea but it isn't. You'll end up with something that's not DD anymore.
>They would need to accommodate the design for this
You have no proof of this, and never will until such a system is implemented, you're just an ass-pull personified
There were people that played DDO solo and were not hindered despite the game being balanced to online play, and you think the opposite would be detrimental to DD2
You act like co-op is mandatory system to partake it, this is where you argument falls, because it's a single-player first and foremost, the OPTION for co-op would be there for those who want it. You're not being forced to partake in at gunpoint, you play the game the way you want. You wanting to take that option away from people is the issue here, and that's entirely driven by your ego and narcissism.
Are you surprised that someone is who is likely alienated from his peers would dislike the idea that people can play the same game as he can but with friends? These clowns are the same people who cry about the elden ring seamless coop mod
There are enough singleplayer games out there. So play some of them?
You don't have to partake in the multiplayer.
What are you losing if the pawn system is still there, but people who want to opt in for co-op can do so?
Wouldn't work like you think it would. Just as Dark Souls coop doesn't work.
How would it work then, o' Sir Gideon Ofnir, the All Knowing?
>Just as Dark Souls coop doesn't work.
It works how you would except it to work, and it's there for those who want to do it. This takes nothing away from the core experience.
>thread brings up coop to start shitflinging
>thread is garbage
Good job replying to a thread made by discord shitposters lol
Pay your debt.
still waiting for this goon to deliver
If he doesn't he is a coward and a homosexual
Itsuno is autistic, I forgive him but you morons have to be brain damaged to not want co op option
TOTAL
CO-COP
DEATH
>What's that? No co-op in DD2? Just like the first game?
>Gran Soren has fallen
>it can’t be added
>it can be added
None of you know what you’re talking about, you’re not game developers
You morons already ruined GTA with your online bullshit. Please don't ruin yet another franchise. Thanks.
>discord morons trying to ruin my thread
OP here I have never used discord in my life and I never will but keep on seething it makes me laugh.
Lmao, sure
You knew what you were doing when you made this thread, dumb discordgay
I don't use discord and I never will why is this so hard for you to understand? Maybe I'm too old for the internet.
>You're being completely irrational with your whinings
ironic
Thank fricking god for Itsuno.
They can always add some bullshit coop mode later in an overpriced DLC for the morons who think this would be a good idea.
All you people whining about coop, just leave it. It's not going to happen otherwise they would've already said it would have it. I dunno why this thread exists. Your whining wont make it happen.
They are discordgays, see screencaps from
reminder that only normalgays have friends and want to play MP kusoge
(You) should go back
Oh I get it the coop gays are the same idiots that use the sos flare in monster hunter because they suck shit at the game. It all makes sense now.
No, it's because playing with friends is fun. You should try it some time.
Oh, wait..
Frick off, we're trading pawns.
this needs to have the second guy at the table saying pawn lines
Why would they be facing each other if they're playing a single-player game?
You disingenuous fricks are nothing but full of shit.
Fixed your shit pic.
They trading cards (pawns) you dumb baboon Black person.
This is good
This is also good
This is bad
Nope Momcest and Co-op is all Dragons Dogma 2 needs to get GOTY. Suck my mommyfricking dick if you disagree.
>Momcest
Does DD have this? based if true.
>Does DD have this? based if true.
Yes. What momcest does to a homie
you morons still don't get Daimon's/Ashe's story right, holy frick
>porn addicted troony
this is Ganker not Ganker
>Ganker
>not porn addicted
pick one
>Verification not required.
suck
my balls
and suck on them
dodoo dodo odododoododod
hey luigi
its a me mario
SUCK MY wiener
AND CHOKE ON IT DODDODOODODODODOD
So why doesn't FF16 have coop as well? I also wish that RE4 Remake had coop.
Also, Persona 3 could really benefit from some coop. And The Last of Us 2.
I believe all WEGs would benefit from co-op.
drag ma dogs balls on ma sons face
I hope we see a tie-in inside the new Dragon Age game and the new Dragon's Dogma game. Just a small little Easter Egg in both acknowledging the mutual love and respect the dev teams have for each other.
Everyone on Ganker wanted co-op until they announced it was gonna be a singleplayer game. Then the shills started saying they never wanted it and it was a good decision
damn all 3 of your discord friends wanted coop that's nuts hope this (you) helps you cook my mcmuffin faster
true. Blind faith in developers is never a good thing. Everybody was sucking Kojima and CDPR off until they both released their worst games to date
OP here, the seething is glorious and it is getting me rock hard I'm close to climaxing.
>they removed the crying emoji comments
Time to brew some ale.
i wanted co-op but it still looks like a fun time
hope the world is bigger and more open
and not open as in you can go anywhere from the start
i hope there is shit that requires skills and such to pass
maybe a broken bridge you need to float over or get thrown over
They said the world is gonna be 4x the size
nice
hope they keep the nights dark and dangerous as well
i will never forget how cool it was when a chimera lept out of the darkness into the circle of light provided by my lantern
man. i stayed put in the forest for the whole night. warding of dire wolves and trying to not aggro hte stupid chimera
Looks pretty dark to me
i trust them to make it right and not pussy out
>First game is cut short
>Given zero marketing
>Pretty much kicked out unfinished to earn loose change
>Still gets big following and dedicated fanbase
>Itsuno given opportunity to make DMCV however he wants
>It's a missive success, earning big dollaroos
I feel like Capcom is going to give Itsuno full creative freedom and 100% trust with DD2. What we've seen so far indicates this, it's looking to keep all the quirks of the original and build upon them instead of remolding it to current AAA trends like happens with a lot of sequels/remakes/reboots these days.
Cursed monkey paw BTFO by lucky rabbit foot.
It's going to be said if it flops
>It's going to be said if it flops
True, but either way it will exist. I'm getting my biggest and most unlikely vidya wish granted and it's everything I wanted. The worse case scenario is it doesn't do well enough for a DD3, but I still get DD2 either way.
All my other wishes were cursed, like Mirror's Edge 2.
Well looking it up DD sold about 7 million units total. DMC5, which was considered a big success, sold 6.5 by the start of this year. Obviously it did it in a way shorter time frame, but I think DD2 stands a decent chance at being successful if that's the level of sales they're going in expecting. Games just sell more in general nowadays compared to 2012.
I know that feel about cursed wishes, for me it was Rage
>agon's dog
I honestly don't see how it could be shit. It's literally the first game but with expanded content and better graphics. Absolute worst case it will be mediocre
Flopping does not mean being bad.
didn't itsuno also say "im making DD2 after DMC V or im fricking out of here"
or am i thinking of something else?
yeah that was him
nta but Itsuno said something along the lines of passing the torch and retiring or making indie games iirc
i am certain this guy would direct some fun indies if that were to happen if hes responsible for even half of the stuff dragons dogma
Hell yeah, we're going home DD bros. I love the positivity and anticipation of good things to come.
Artificial sun instead of artificial moon.
? The nights were never dark and dangerous. There's a reason literally everyone brings up that one chimera. One single spot in the entire map slightly more risky in night (except actually you can just run away with 0 things the enemy can do about it)
Otherwise all it did was spawn skeletons, who get stunlocked to death by spamming stinger, some of the weakest enemies in the entire game
Just use one of your 5000 healing items you find every 3 steps and grab and smash in its blind spot while spamming potions
No content balanced around other people, only your ability matters.
No having to worry about people trying to be sociable at you in a game you're playing to immerse into the world.
No gays dressing up as women because they can't be women irl then infecting your game.
No elgoblino's that stick out like the thousands SF6 got day 1.
No overpowered people joining games to ruin them with their bullshit.
No hackers cheating in items to dump on the floor.
Etc etc
Tons of shit to be gained by adding coop, while all you gain from adding it is appealing to people so bad at games that even one which gives you a near infinite supply of healing items that take 0 time to use is 'too hard'
did you get kicked out of the final homosexualry sixteen threads barry my love
Implying I play homosexual games.
yeah we only play final fantasy 15 for straight dudes such as ourselves
I don't get why reading is hard. I haven't played a FF since 13. It sucked. Last good FF was 12, which starred a heterosexual male, such as myself.
I assume this is a deflection tactic? Barry is a thread buggyman for threads I don't visit, but for some reason being brought up here? Next time you should just spam buzzwords. Much easier.
Cope, seethe.
nobody cares dude get a life
I'm not the one so invested in Ganker I bring up completely different people in unrelated threads and get mad people discuss the game the thread is about instead of 2 different other games.
I hope your life gets better. You should start by getting a job or leaving the house. I believe in you. You can stop being a schizo. Cope, seethe.
didn't read
Cope, seethe
get a life
thanks for the you but still didnt read
I dunno he's a schizo yelling about some FF fan in a DD thread so I'm just telling him buzzwords.
Are you telling the cope and seethe guy to get a life or are you telling the get a life guy to cope and seethe? Hmmm
co-op tards really believe that you can just add that shit with no trade-off whatsoever or compromising resources etc.
don't they understand that would mean checking literally every single part of the game? it's not like Monster Hunter where you have isolated hunt structure, you have entire fricking Open World
not to mention other things like balancing or skills that slow down time etc.
Why do you think it's necessary to balance it? It's not a competitive game.
>devs take 10 years to make the exact same game again
>they just didn't have the resources for co-op, literally impossible!
Your opinion of the devs isn't very high is it?
>not to mention other things like balancing or skills that slow down time etc.
Fricking balancegays
As a singleplayer game there's not much reason to overly balance the game because you can just choose to not use the most op shit.
In coop people will use the most OP shit in a deluded belief it makes them better than other people.
Its one more reason not to add coop.
If DD1 had coop people would literally do nothing but buffed explosive arrows and ruin basically every fight
>morons that didn't play the first game are seething
Coop would be moronic but can we all just agree it'd be better as a turn based game?
Nah, there are tons of turn based rpgs with parties. DD is unique because its a real time action game
Youre still around?
At least we don't have Barry shitting up our threads, right?
>looks at that post count to ip
no, he is actually praising DD right now and comparing it to ff15. the fricking moron
I hope they keep the constant pawn chatter. Went from hating it at first to it being one of my favorite parts of the game. Tis a troubling foe.
If they do I hope they expand the lines of dialogue
I will never understand why morons want coop in DD just play MH it's the same shit without the goblins. In MHW you still get lost as frick in the ancient forest and spend 20 minutes trying to find the monster.
>salomet smoking a blunt 24/7
heh
Why morons want co-op on a heavy history game? Putting co-op on the Dragon Dogma will make DD feel like medieval Monster Hunter, lol.
>want to hire some sorcerer pawn
>every option has nothing but shitty slow spells that make such a pawn completely useless considering they don't know what positioning is
Why do you Black folk keep giving your pawns maelstrom (I fricking love not seeing anything), bolide, gicel, etc without lassitude and quicker spells?
>fighting monsters
>suddenly screen goes black
>"goddamit someone cast blind on me"
>chug potion to fix it
>doesn't fix it
>realize it's not blindness but me standing in the middle of a maelstorm that my pawn cast to kill some chaff
it deals massive damage and sucks the smaller targets in. Hope DD2 lets your pawn switch between weaker and stronger variants of the same spell depending on the enemy and their AI.
Massive DARK damage, so like 10-30% of what it could do most of the time.
Thank frick they ain't adding it
Hate coop, hate content locked behind coop. I move at my pace and its probably faster than yours. I'm not waiting.
I CANT KILL THE GRIFFON BY MYSELF AND MY PAWNS ARE moronic I NEED MY OVERPOWERED FRIEND TO KILL IT FOR ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Got fire?
my response to co-op(e) gays
>buy game
>it doesn't have coop
>what the FRICK
>wow goblins hunt in packs and are weak to fire thanks rock
>holy crap this hydra qte was easy as HECK
>wow what a hot babagjinga brown girl casca from berk is in this game
>why wont this stupid ox move I kicked him 10 times
>where is the the hot berkserk girl I need SEX
unistalled
Is it possible to mod NPC clothing? There should be a mod to give Mercedes the Wyrmhunt Mantle + Steel Chestplay + Silk Underwear + Red Overknee Boots.
God imagine if they include silk underwear in DD2
Yes
I have TERMINAL she-goat fever.
I wonder if the girls in the sequel will live up the one in the first game. Also
Mercedes > Quina > Madeleine > Selene >>>>>> Aelinore
>3 playthroughs
>still no goat gf
pain
She's quite hard to get since she fricks off. I heard that during her duel there's actually a third outcome if you interrupt it at the very end but before she's defeated, but I'm not sure if it's true
almost
Alita > Mercedes > Quina > Madeleine > Selene >>>>>> Aelinore
How do people not have Selene first, she’s a filthy witch in a shack.
I mean Selene moves in with you regardless of whether or not you romance her.
I prefer her as a daughter than as a wife. And no not because she's a sort of e-girl.
just make a mercedes pawn
I think you can but again it's through hex editing. Some addresses are known.
>laugh at people who have friends and aren't going to make a e-girl main pawn to undress and fap to
>He doesn't have friends to trade pawns with
I forgot you're only allowed to play one game on Ganker. I only play super mario bros.
I hope the romance system is the exact same.
OP HERE DO NOT POST e-girl IN MY THREAD
not to be rude but shes kinda gross would not impregnate
There's more.
Ok
>jack the ripper
>e-girl
Frick off ironic e-girlcon.
Sneed
For me, it's rescuing Philippa from the sewers.
I will throw your pawns into the brine and I really hope they let the owner know I threw them into the brine this time.
I wouldn't have minded co-op in a specific limited way.
My idea was that if you hire a support pawn that belongs to your friend, they can play that pawn if given permission. (Limit of 1)
I don't mind that it's not happening though, I think it could've worked, but I'm happy enough to play DD1.2.
How about this, robust single player campaign. Multiplayer co-op with your single player character in special arena quests where you fight big monster
It’s already single player stop asking.
There are seriously people who want coop in DD2? That's the worst take I have heard on this board, holy shit.
>download enb shaders
>entire pc locks up
why is modding old games so fricking moronic
post pc speccs
frick co-op gays. we win. This game looks awesome. Capcom keeps winning
I recently got dragon’s dogma a couple days ago with no prior knowledge. Honestly the game feels like it was meant for co-op, but then they backed out at the last minute for cpus. I can see why people would want multiplayer
Glad nobody gives a frick about your stupid zoomer opinion but welcome to the big boy club.
>zoomer
I’m just speaking as someone who’s new to the game. From what I’ve played, I doubt having multiplayer would’ve changed the game that much
>entire story of 1 is the pawn system
>hurr idk what it changes if I just have my friend Steve pilot it!!
Unironically kys my homie you clearly didn’t even play this game.
What would it change homosexual. Pawns are created and are then loyal to the main character. That’s it. Having Richard control my pawn from across the planet isn’t going change that. I don’t even care about multiplayer, I just said I could see why people would want it
I also want to put my dick in your ass but clearly god doesn't want that.
Bring me on a date first
thats gay
It’s only gay if you deem it as such, Anon. Now hold my hand
>muh resources
>muh balance
>muh soul
I'm yet to see a legit argument against coop
it's a normie magnet. frick normies
it's a fricking capcom game, not some obscure crpg made by three slavs evading the draft for the ukraine war
so was dragons dogma. i sure hope it filters normies to the max
I don't mind the normies getting DD2, at all.
Selling a ton would be nice and open the door for a possible DD3.
Meanwhile Itsuno has Capcom by the balls so there's no way they force him to change things in DD3 to appeal to normies.
Itsuno will probably retire after DD2
sad, he's the only game designer I respect
>I don't mind the normies
that's the first step to feminists banning e-girls in silk lingerie
Dragon's Dogma Online already proved that multiplayer in Dragon's Dogma is a bad idea. I dunno why you people still ask for it.
I used to tell people that’s wanted multiplayer that multiplayer dragons dogma existed and they still wouldn’t play it.
>you people
they aren't people, just some troons crawling out of their smelly discord to raid DD threads
Wlil DD2 have any Berserk armor? I assume the license is cheap as frick now.
can they not just make a "not berserk" armor? who's going to sue? the israelites?
japanese israelites are worse than normal israelites so yeah
japanese israelites is a meme
There will be a berserk mod within the first week.
Oh right I forgot it's reengine the modding is gonna be glorious.
Depends, capcom forced nexus jannies to delete mods for RE4 remake.
there are more sites than nexus
nexus is a shit vocation
Nexus is an inclination not a vocation
that's what i said nexus is a shit
Can't wait for vaatihomosexual to compare it to souls.
In a perfect world sure i'd like the option of co-op
Realisticaly i only want it in a very limited fashion, like a bbi dungeon where it's enabled
Above all i want a good single player experience like DD1 so ultimately i don't care at all.
No co-op, no buy.
damn capcom is gonna go bankrupt
You are not the target market, homosexual.
OP HERE
thanks for the laughs have a good life 🙂
thread is almost dead nobody will know i jerk it to raging brachy