How the frick is this supposed to be good exactly? 2.5 million sales? for a multiplatform open world game? By Capcom?
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Dragon's Dogma 2 disappointing sales
How the frick is this supposed to be good exactly? 2.5 million sales? for a multiplatform open world game? By Capcom?
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>WHAT THE FRICK WHY DOES THIS COMPANY HAVE NON-moronic EXPECTATIONS FOR THEIR TITLES
>non-moronic expectations
>capcom
You have no power here shill, back to begging for pennies from shitsuno.
>brings up a tweet from 14 years ago
And they've been shit for even longer. Your point?
and they were right.
Legendsgays are just really loud. There isn't that meany of them to warrant support.
they hated him because he spoke the truth
and I'm one of the legends gays
anon that tweet is older than half the people on this board
Resident Evil 6 having no legs changed their expectations.
They also weren't wrong about Mega Man Legends 3. The last game, Legends 2 didn't sell well. Inafune fricked up by making the dev room instead of just keeping the game's pitch demo development a secret. It gave Capcom all the data they needed that people didn't give a frick about Legends.
This fan campaign took a God damn year just to reach the stupid low target number.
I'm glad they didn't make 3 because all classic console games that move to handhelds are dogshit.
They spent very little having AI design most of the world and story for them, so it's basically money for nothing
Hope the Indian was worth the rupees. They made the sequel more bland then the first base game was. I will not buy any form of dlc for this game.
AI would have done a much better job.
Nintendo pajeet thread
frick Capcom
They lost my buy when they did the always online, DRM bullshit with microtransaction. I'll wait until I can pirate it with all the DLC.
for me it was when they hired transvestites and men dressed up as women as spokesman.
Uh Dragon's Dogma 2 is not always online bro.
not on the Switch 🙂
Capcom is a dead company
I want to fricking punch that smug homosexual in the face
this dick weed got people hyped and then turned around and stuck troons in the dlc with shitty drm
>3.5mil in 3 weeks
>game sells fine
>ACTUALLY IT FLOPPED
Why are people so desperate? Are they trying to cling to DD2 so much because they know Wilds will be a giant success and they won't be able to doompost that one?
Delusional if you think Wilds will do a fraction of what World did
>Actually it won't sell like crazy
Here we go again...
Why the frick wouldn't it sell well? You're fricking delusional if you think gamers are turning away from Capcom titles. RE4REMAKE is selling faster than RE5 did in 2009 in 1 year. DD2 just eclipsed DD1's week1 sales.
>fraction
Insane mental gymnastics.
I doubt it will surpass Worlds' sales any time soon, though. Assuming it is quality wise on a similar level as World, it will at least get 3/4s intial sales with a similarly long tail. They're not called Worldbabies for no reason. These games sell well with their expansion DLC + cosmetic micros. You wienersuckers will no doubt have the time of your life with it's storepage on release while normal people will be playing it, though.
crazy people should stop shooting up schools, and start targeting video game companies in California instead
The OG sold a little less than that in a year and was considered a success by capcûck, enough to get a DLC. The problem here is DD2 is gaining literally no one where the first had a cult following. 2 is just hemorrhaging people and more don't seem to be coming in.
>The problem here is DD2 is gaining literally no one where the first had a cult following. 2 is just hemorrhaging people and more don't seem to be coming in.
I think a lot of people are just waiting for the improved performance. People joke about it, but high requirements physically filter out third wolders
I expect it to sell better once they release some patches, and ofc once the expansion comes out, same as it was with DA
and when it never comes? that last """patch""" was pitiful. they seem pretty done with this until DLC time. I was giving them until may for any kind of "future of" shit but they seem to have washed their hands of it.
I expect them to bundle everything with the expansion, like they did with World when they improved graphics with IB
then you don't expect it to be revitalized "on a performance patch" but on the DLC. I'm saying by that point most won't even care to bother.
>I'm saying by that point most won't even care to bother.
DD1 only got some steam going after DA, so I don't really see why not
>DD1 only got some steam going after DA
DA wouldn't have existed if DD didn't already have the cult following. DD2s DLC was already a forgone conclusion but this is a "tree falling in the forest with no one around" scenario.
>DA wouldn't have existed if DD didn't already have the cult following
Wrong. DA happened because Capcom was displeased with DD's performance and thought it they Dark Souls'd it up and released it all over again it might hit.
>Wrong.
>proceeds to just make shit up
lol
lmao even
Anon, I was here for this. DD1 underperformed, normies all thought it was a gay Skyrim cash-in. It only ever succeeded once DA hit and DA was an obvious attempt to pander to Souls fans.
>DD1 underperformed
>when capcom said it did better than expected
lol
lmao even
>By the following month, the game had sold 1.05 million units worldwide, being considered a major success by Capcom. According to the report, sales in Japan "exceeded expectations", while the game struggled in Western markets
No. It underperformed and only exceeded expectations in Japan were the perception of being "Jap Skyrim" was positive, not negative
>No.
>proceeds to triple down on making shit up
lol
lmao even
That's from the sales section of the wikipedia.
Here's the Eurogamer article
>Most of that success came from Japan, where Dragon's Dogma "exceeded expectations" - although the game "struggled abroad"
https://www.eurogamer.net/dragons-dogma-scales-reach-1-05-million-units
You're a fricking moron with fake news delusions about DD1.
>fake news delusions
>"being considered a major success by Capcom"
>still headcanonning it as a failure
lol
lmao even
>In the United States, the game sold 92,000 units within five days
It's sales were BAD internationally.
>"being considered a major success by Capcom"
>bad
lol
lmao even
DD1 did well in the long run, mostly due to the DA expansion and port to PC. I don't think DA was even announced when that article was written.
Yes but the point is the initial sales were a big big letdown other than in Japan. The idea of them adding some Dark Souls energy and then reselling it as a new SKU at full price to sort of "try again" is commonly accepted fact. They saw what kind of ARPG was doing well and pivoted towards that a little and marketed it towards that demographic.
DD1/DD:DA only did well over time because of eons of word of mouth and lots of good ports. It's the definition of a cult classic that only got success over time.
>Sold less than 100k in a market several times bigger than Japan's
Yes. They said it struggled. You're just seeing Japs presenting their best face and ignoring the actual facts. It was only a major success in Japan [by modern standards this means it wasn't a success]. Capcom was just re-framing it the best they could.
>moronic weebshit protected by lulnovo shilled to death by unemployed weeaboos
>it's pretty much the single AAA game coming out in that month
>still flops
all my heh
Ronin and Rebirth flopped, not DD2
to many Black folks for my liking
>but this was completely legit and not shilling
get fricked crapcum
it was because there was hope. the original was always loved here. there's even a thread up right now about 1. 2 being a travesty is separate.
>the original was always loved here
by a small bunch of morons with shit taste
just like you can't compare DeS posting with ER posting
>anon gets his wish to see others suffer as he does
>still seething
must be tiring being this way
It would've done 5 mil if it didn't have denuvo and mtx.
Or if it didn't have performance issues and more depth
That would've helped too but I don't care if it runs like shit when it has denuvo and mtx.
coooooooope
Just an FYI, but DD2 outsold every From game in history first week besides ER.
More of the same medieval stuff
Honestly I’m just waiting for the inevitable dlc before I pick it up I’m guessing they’re going to add something like bbI sometime down the line
DD2 is actually a great game. It is definitely rushed in many places but manages to be great in spite of that.
Don't play it for the story. Just roam the land and find shit.
I agree, and I've done that, but now there's nothing left to explore and I can't get to new lands through the magic door without doing the awful story
You can get there without opening the door.
there are two other ways to get into Battahl dude
>find shit
There's nothing to find. There were only two times when my exploration paid off: the cave leading to the Sphinx shrine and a portcrystal in a griffin nest near the swampy area.
When you've done exploring all that's left is the game's horrendous story.
>Don't play it for the story
Imma be honest, the Unmoored World and the True Ending was actually kino.
The game has nothing of worth to go exploring for.
The chests don't repawn, give shit loot that i already had gotten from a chest 5+ hours prior.
80% of the caves in the game are just short pathways/tunnels, a room with a chest or a narrow cave system going from point A to B with 1 dead end somewhere.
The rest of the caves are fine, but just that. Fine.
The original game has some neat caves. even a HUGE cave that opens up and it was great for for its time. So why the frick don't we have anything better than the Waterfall Cave you encounter like 1 hour after starting the game?
There's nothing in the world worth searching for. They didn't leave any interesting shit to find.
There was this place i found on top of a Mine. It had like 3 ladders and some scaffolds i had to jump up on. Mined a bunch of ores (pointless other than for gold gains), and eventually i found some ruins/pillars on a rather large flat area ontop of this mine/mountain.
You know hat was there? Nothing. Just an area that up first time seeing it, looks like when you get closer it might start some sort of event/boss fight.
But there's literally nothing there. So i decided well maybe something spawns at nighttime here, surely.
Made the climb down and to a campfire, and then back up the mountain.
Not even frickin' Wisps or anything showed up. The area looks like a frickin' boss or something should show up. Could've had a Dullahan spawn there or something. But instead i followed some fricking ladders up a mountain to find nothing.
Find what? Another pack of goblins?
Yes, everyone who played the game understands that. People who actually played DDDA and DD2 are just somewhat disappointed that it isn't the "Itsuno's complete vision masterpiece" that we were expecting and hoping for.
to no one's surprise
It's at 3.5 million and outsold every non-ER From game in history first week.
>It's at 3.5 million
still bad
>outsold every non-ER From game in history first week.
and? from games are pretty niche outside of ER (which is infinitely better than DD2 anyways)
>still bad
No, it's not.
>and? from games are pretty niche outside of ER (which is infinitely better than DD2 anyways)
lolno, Dark Souls is not niche at all, neither is Bloodborne.
>No, it's not.
yes it is. this is a AAA game that Capcom heavily invested into making it big. it's quite literally their only release for this year
>Dark Souls is not niche at all, neither is Bloodborne
they sold 10 million each in the course of 10+ years and most people don't even finish these games. they are definitely known by the mainstream but not played by the mainstream
No, it's not you dumb homosexual, holy shit. It not doing ER numbers is not a failure.
And yes, Dark Souls is normie core as shit, especially 3, which DD2 outsold by about 2-3 times. DD2 is 2-3 times more successful than From's second most successful title. You have no sense of perspective whatsoever you dumb troonycord loser.
>It not doing ER numbers is not a failure.
yeah, but it selling less than it should does
>Dark Souls is normie core as shit
dark souls 1 only sold 2 million units more than DD1/dark arisen
>DD2 is 2-3 times more successful than From's second most successful title.
so DD2 is more normalgay friendly than dark souls?
>yeah, but it selling less than it should does
No, it doesn't. You have no sense of perspective at all. Based off DaS3 alone, DD2 will likely have a projected lifetime sales of 12-14 million, if you consider that a failure, you are utterly out of touch with reality.
>only sold 2 million more.
The Souls series in its entirety is more than 20 million lifetime sales, more than 40 million counting ER, it is normie.
>so DD2 is more normalgay friendly than dark souls?
Not relevant, changing goalposts gayopping rhetoric. "Normie" is used in the context of "this series is popular with most gamers" which Souls is, pre-ER and especially after ER.
>Based off DaS3 alone
so based on a game from a different publisher that wasn't broken at launch?
>projected
sales aren't linear
>The Souls series in its entirety is more than 20 million lifetime sales
the dark souls games each sold 10 million units. seems pretty consistent to me
>Not relevant
now it's not relevant? because both dark souls and dragons dogma 1 sold basically the same
>Goalpost shifting.
Cool story bro.
>Sales aren't linear.
True, they could fix the performance issues and they could easily ramp up, getting the game to 15 million.
>now it's not relevant? because both dark souls and dragons dogma 1 sold basically the same
Yes, not relevant at all and just gay goalpost shifting because you're a moron. You're interpreting me calling Souls a 'normie' series as some kind of pejorative, because again, you are fricking moron, when my sole point was it really isn't niche and is quite popular.
>Goalpost shifting.
didn't do that. you can't use sales from product A to product B
>they could fix the performance issues
word of mouth damage is already done
>not relevant
doesn't change that DD1 is normalgay stuff
>didn't do that. you can't use sales from product A to product B
You absolutely can use previous examples as a paradigm and project likely future sales, especially when both titles have overlap and similarity.
>word of mouth damage is already done
And yet despite all the whining about MTX and shit performance, we're at 3.5 million from 2.5.
>doesn't change that DD1 is normalgay stuff
Still missing the point, try and get some reading comprehension, and just an FYI, total series of Dogma as a series is about 12-13 million, half that of Souls, and half that of ER alone, DD really isn't all that normie and is still on the niche side (but changing with the release of 2, again do not be a homosexual and take this as a pejorative or criticism).
total sales of Dogma*
>You absolutely can use previous examples as a paradigm and project likely future sales,
when they're similar product
>especially when both titles have overlap and similarity.
they don't. DD and souls have nothing in common in combat and dark souls wasnt open world. a better comparison would be ER but we already know you're ignoring that to not get BTFO that hard
>And yet despite all the whining about MTX and shit performance, we're at 3.5 million from 2.5.
now let's make more comparisons. MH was another franchise that Capcom wanted to revive and the word of mouth did wonders to it. doesn't look like the same for DD
>Still missing the point
the point was that dark souls itself wasn't that far from DD. the difference is that from kept making the games
>when they're similar product
Fantasy ARPG where you create your own character, explore a world, acquire gear and fight monsters, yes.
>they don't. DD and souls have nothing in common in combat and dark souls wasnt open world. a better comparison would be ER but we already know you're ignoring that to not get BTFO that hard
Cool story bro and incorrect, not much else to say here and would be just a repeat of above.
>now let's make more comparisons. MH was another franchise that Capcom wanted to revive and the word of mouth did wonders to it. doesn't look like the same for DD
MH wasn't 'revived', the series was incrementally grown and improved over the course of many years, it never 'died' to begin with, shut the frick up moron, holy shit.
>the point was that dark souls itself wasn't that far from DD. the difference is that from kept making the games
Still missing the point, get reading comprehension, not to mention you admit here that Dark Souls isn't "far from DD" contradicting yourself.
>And yet despite all the whining about MTX and shit performance, we're at 3.5 million
Can you link the article where it confirms the sales?
Hello? Where's the article?
>yes it is. this is a AAA game that Capcom heavily invested into making it big.
We know from the Capcom leak their expectations were around 3.5m copies in the whole first year
>it's quite literally their only release for this year
Companies think in terms of FY, anon. The previous one had SF6, REmake 4 dlc and DD2
This one has Path of Godness and MH Wilds
Capcom has an IP that outsells Elden Ring games. It's called Monster Hunter World/Wilds. Resident Evil destroys secondary Fromsoft titles like Sekrio in sales and Dragons Dogma eclipses sales of Armored Core. Don't even have to mention DMC and Street Fighters. Fromsoft is not a competitor to Capcom. Stop this childish rivalry.
>Capcom has an IP that outsells Elden Ring games
elden ring games?
>It's called Monster Hunter World/Wilds
ER outsold MHW in two years 🙂
That's a total lie though that can be proven wrong in less that one minute with a Google search. MHW has 26 million sales. ER has only 22 million.
>MHW has 26 million sales
*If you include "people" double dipping the master edition, otherwise it's 18 million. this isn't even including people double dipping on PC after they launched it there a year later
>people buying the game as a bundle with the DLC don't count because... well, they don't alright?
It would be like saying that the copies of ER sold in bundle with the DLC don't count
>people buying the game as a bundle with the DLC
the people that already bought the original game double dipping on the master edition bundle to get the special items from the master edition don't count. Capcom themselves will list it as 18 million units with an asterisk to 25 if you count that
Nices sales data, where are the good games?
>3.5M sales
>Disappointing
>From a mostly third tier Capcom title
Huh?
being third tier doesn't really matter when they blew so much money on it to try making it a first tier franchise
With 2.5 mill week 1 sales, this us primed for 10 million+ lifetime. Looking at how their other games performed.
It's in DaS3 sales range (better in fact).
Lifetime will likely be (going off that title) 12-14 million, unless a patch drops that fixes performance, they add TUs and whatnot and sales pick up again before then.
DD2 sales will justify meaty DLC's and there is nothing the detractors can do about it.
is capcom going bankrupt bros?
No because MH Wilds will sell 10m in a week and fun them for the next 4 years
I wish MH would die already so they were forced to make real games. MH and RE, that is.
>Dragons Dogma
It's already eclipsing every From title aside from ER.
12 years after the first one. Capcom's priorities are disgusting.
Capcom is literally one of the only devs in the industry right now that are doing very well.
They just gave everyone in the company a raise. No questions asked. While every other publisher is firing people left and right. You tell me.
Lost me when they went to war with modding
This game is absolute trash without Cheat Engine, I died to the very first goblins, and after that set my level to 999 and all stats to 9999 to make the game playable. Now after 35 hours I'm done with the unmoored world and the true ending but I can't imagine slogging through without the ability to oneshot every enemy in the game.
With cheated stats I fly around the battlefield deleting enemies and kill a Drake with one basic magic archer volley, I could never have that playing normally. My review for the game: 10/10 with cheats, very fun power fantasy; but 0/10 without, an annoying slog where you die to trash mob goblins and wolves. Unplayable on console where you don't have cheats.
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base game was like 70 doolers.
2.5 mil on release with a 70$ price tag is pretty good. DD1 took 12 years to get it's 7.5 mil sales and has been going for 5$ since 2022. If they release some content DLC they'll get to milk some more cash. Fix any issues and put it on 10% sale - add another mil to the list.
It all depends on what their target was, 5 and 6 million is just absurd for most AAA releases, but open world games tend to be bloated cost wise.
$70 and didn't run on a lot of rigs.
Okay but is this [Sad News] or [Good News] i can't know until you tell me what to think
Tards are saying that selling a $70 game at 3.5 mil is somehow bad.
Upstanding citizens are applauding it since DD2 will get more support for patches/dlc and DD3 eventually.
when is that shit going to permasage/auto-delete threads? It's so fricking annoying.
Really all you gays can do when you get blown out, huh?
Blown out how?
OH NO NO NO
>all time peak
>77,655
I can't believe Red Dead Redemption 2 flopped... Red Deadbros... we lost
What in the actual frick is human fall first?
based moron
>Fantasy ARPG
with completely different styles combat and exploration
>where you create your own character,
character creation isn't a feature that unifies them at all
>explore a world
every single game. worse yet you're comparing a linear game with gated area and story progression to an open world
>acquire gear
every single game with RPG elements
>fight monsters
couldn't be more generic of a segment
>Cool story bro and incorrect
not an argument
>MH wasn't 'revived'
yes it was. it was basically dead on the 3DS and they wanted to get it to a MUCH bigger audience
>not to mention you admit here that Dark Souls isn't "far from DD" contradicting yourself.
in sales you moronic baboon. DaS1 only sold 2 million more units than DD1
>basically dead on the 3DS
It was extremely successful on the 3DS lmao. You have no clue what you are talking about at all, you are a dumb homosexual who is wasting my time, just Google it and you would see that objectively, MonHun was a success on the 3DS, I've been a fan 10+ years, I am well aware of its progression and growth.
>in sales you moronic baboon. DaS1 only sold 2 million more units than DD1
Souls series total sales = 20+ million + ER 40+ million total
Dogma series total sales = 11-13+ million, Dogma 2 sold 3.5 million.
QED, Souls is a normie series, Dogma = somewhat niche, still kinda is, reading comprehension, Anon, stop being a moron and acting in bad faith. And your opinions on Dogma's combat is irrelevant, it is similar enough for a frame of comparison, nobody here will agree with you at all.
>It was extremely successful on the 3DS lmao
lmao indeed
>Souls series
AGAIN you're comparing an entire series with one game, while ignoring the fact that I told you on a game to game basis they're not that different sales wise outside of ER. all dark souls games sold around the same at 10 million units because the same people bought the three games. face it mate. your series is normalgay shit
>AGAIN you're comparing an entire series with one game, while ignoring the fact that I told you on a game to game basis they're not that different sales wise outside of ER. all dark souls games sold around the same at 10 million units because the same people bought the three games. face it mate. your series is normalgay shit
My point you dumber motherfrick is that Souls is a normie series, normies know what it is, they have played it, ask any goober on the street, you'll get way more people who played Souls than Dogma, fricking off yourself, holy shit.
baboon...
From games aren't niche moron.
Finally get it?
nice. cant wait for a dlc expansion. hopefully its soon.
Some fools think having good graphics that demands good hardware is a bad thing and want to encourage games to have worse graphics so their shit boxes can run them on full at high resolutions.
Lost my buy forever when I realized it was a ToTK situation: AKA more of the same old game and not enough new content, charged at $70.
How do capjeets cope
so 150 million usd?
This is the result of making your female characters ugly, Capcom.
>and ignoring the actual facts.
>"being considered a major success by Capcom"
lol lmao even
I didn't know selling less thasn 100k in the US was a major success moron. All you're doing is moronicly echoing the Japanese market results as if they're valid or relevant. They aren't. It sold as well as could be expected in Japan and sold BADLY everywhere else.
>"being considered a major success by Capcom"
>still seething about it
lol
lmao
>Yes but the point is the initial sales were a big big letdown other than in Japan
why are zoomers obsessed with week one sales numbers? you're not a capcom exec, and it's common knowledge the game ended up exceeding expectations.
Because we're talking about the beginning. The fact is: DD1 only got success for itself after DA. Before then it was a huge flop except in Japan [a tiny market with no importance]
>it's common knowledge the game ended up exceeding expectations.
After they added the Dark Arisen DLC and sold it for dirt cheap and ported it to every console for a fricking decade.
but the original did show promise, if it truly fell flat on it's face at launch they wouldn't have even touched it again, because it's a single player game. there are live service games that have stopped supporting their servers in less time than it took for DA to release from the initial launch.
>if it truly fell flat on it's face at launch they wouldn't have even touched it again, because it's a single player game
Wrong. All you can maybe say is they felt the Japanese success proved it's potential.
>there are live service games
Anon, 2012 was before all that shit even started. You're an idiot.
>All you can maybe say is they felt the Japanese success proved it's potential
no, I can say that it proved successful, because that's what actually happened. here's your (You), anon.
>sold less than 100k in the US on PS3+360 in 2012
>Success
Nope. You're coping.
zoomy just can't accept history started before he started paying attention. that and it hurts his current obsession.
>implying
I mean that accusation is valid for one party in this discussion but...It ain't me. I was paying close attention in 2012. DD1 flopped hard and only truly succeeded after the Dark Arisen re-release. It's a simple fact.
>still flailing
lol
lmao even
I'm the one citing sales stats here. You're flailing, I'm firing shots.
>date in article: March 22
>current day: April 17
it can make troonoids seethe for months
is a GOTY for sure
Relink won
Capcom is really in a deep hole. Despite the game selling only 2.5 million in two weeks is a sign that the company is on the decline. We all know that the game costed Capcom well over $100 million dollars just for the marketing alone, there's no way they'll make their money back.
DD2 is amazing.
im trans btw
I did not ask.
>sales homosexualry thread
> Sells millions.
> Win 9.1 integrated gfx Pajeets seething.
10/10 timeline.